Seeing Satellites with DIY Microwave Camera

2023 ж. 28 Нау.
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I converted a portable satellite antenna into a microwave imager or Ku band "camera". This small motorized dish scans around and records the signal strength to create a heat map of microwave radio energy. It's ideal for viewing satellites in geostationary orbit, finding RF leaks in a room, or creating images from reflected microwave energy.
The hardware I used is a Dish "Tailgater" antenna, the 2014 version with onboard USB A port. I've seen other version of this antenna with different (or no) USB port, but this is the one I was able to connect to my computer and control with serial port commands.
More information on this project is available on my website: saveitforparts.wordpress.com/...
I've also put my code onto Github, free for anyone to use! github.com/saveitforparts/Tai...
(If you do use my code, I would love to hear what you did with it!)
I would like to thank @forTodaysAdventure for helping with some Python code ideas.
I would also like to mention a similar project by @thethoughtemporium using custom hardware and a larger satellite dish. That video can be found here: • How to Build a Radio T...
Professor James Aguirre has also imaged satellites with his Mini Radio Telescope (MRT) project, available here: github.com/UPennEoR/MiniRadio...
I used the website sky.rogue.space/ to visualize orbits and satellite locations. (prior .space url had an issue, but this one seems to work).
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  • Oh yea, that pesky sun. Used to work with a KU band system, and there were a couple of days, for a few minutes, 4 times a year, where the sun would transit behind our satellite. You could watch the noise floor on the spectrum analyzer, creep up and just totally eat the signal lobe. Complete LoS for about 4 minutes or so. Mean old radiation ball... :)

    @JamesP33R@JamesP33R Жыл бұрын
    • sometimes at night when i do it. the moon messes with my signal cuz the moon has bad radiation. did u know that?

      @driftwavez@driftwavez Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@driftwavez the moon is simply reflecting the radiation & light from the sun. The moon itsels is not radioactive / does not emit radioactivity on its own

      @lyoko111@lyoko111 Жыл бұрын
    • Had the same experience with several geostationary satcomm providers. As you say, the signal would just fade out for 4-5 minutes.

      @herringchoker01@herringchoker0111 ай бұрын
    • Only 4 minutes? These small satellite dishes are that focused?

      @terjeoseberg990@terjeoseberg9904 ай бұрын
    • Sunfade season was always crazy at my NOC So many notices to send out explaining that it's the sun's fault

      @kicksledkid@kicksledkid4 ай бұрын
  • I love that shot with the reflection in the monitor. That was a really cool effect (and it's a neat project!)

    @Smytjf11@Smytjf11 Жыл бұрын
  • I think it’s far more likely the sky noise isn’t noise at all and you saw LEO sats! Good work awesome project

    @trcostan@trcostan Жыл бұрын
  • It would be interesting to see what you got if you pointed it in the direction of some of the larger planets. Many years ago I had the opportunity to visit the radio telescope at Jodrell Bank in the UK. In the visitor centre they had a 5m dish that you could steer manually and the coordinates for various planets. I was amazed at how much RF was being emitted from Jupiter.

    @slyworme@slyworme Жыл бұрын
    • I need to write some code to account for Earth's rotation and stay on a moving target! Jupiter would be interesting, although I think the radio frequencies it emits are much lower than this little dish can detect.

      @saveitforparts@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
    • As a first step you could just run your current code to scan the sky and see if it picks up anything when it passes Jupiter. I suspect that you are correct though about the frequency range being much lower.

      @slyworme@slyworme Жыл бұрын
    • @@saveitforparts You can use the rotation of the earth as one of the scanning axis. It was a common technique for huge low frequency antennas used for radop astronomy.

      @gonzo_the_great1675@gonzo_the_great1675 Жыл бұрын
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  • 1:48 Am I the only one impressed at this Reflection on the Computer Screen Shot!?! It's such a simple idea Yet I Honestly haven't seen anyone else do that..lol! All Around GREAT Video!! I couldn't have hit that Sub & Notification button faster!

    @knowyourrights9793@knowyourrights9793 Жыл бұрын
  • These satellite videos have been my favorite series of videos so far! It's really inspiring, too. Time for me to finally finish my Raspberry Pi projects.

    @lemonblazer123@lemonblazer123 Жыл бұрын
  • I love the camera angle where you've got code on screen and you're using that same screen as a mirror... that's superb!!!

    @edgeeffect@edgeeffect Жыл бұрын
  • 08:56 - Good Lord, I hadn't really seen a visualization of just how many artificial satellites we've launched into orbit. The term "astounding" comes to mind. Just wow.

    @tomh.648@tomh.64811 ай бұрын
  • Excellent chase of ideas . Years ago I did a few experiments in pasive 3 dimensional imaging of microwave emissions for realtime terrain navigation making waveguides and mostly modifying salvaged equipment you had an easier time doing what took me months as a start of the several years of dabbling .

    @alt3241@alt3241 Жыл бұрын
  • One of the coolest facts in this video was learning the Arthur C Clarke came up with geo stationary orbits

    @samuelfrancis9143@samuelfrancis91439 ай бұрын
  • I had an aha! moment during this video. You essentially were collecting data about your surroundings without an active emitter. This passive “RADAR” is what modern military aircraft use to get a picture of the battle field without giving away their position. I’m sure their hardware/software has a higher resolution but the concept is the same. Wow. Thanks for that. Great job!

    @FrankConforti@FrankConforti Жыл бұрын
  • I subscribed to your YT channel because of the name SaveItForParts. Re-using discontinued/failed/older electronics is the ULTIMATE way to re-cycle them because it retains the "man-hours" and intellectual effort to construct our devices going decades back into the last century. That labor & IP cannot be recycled if the "e-Waste" is ground-up and melted down - the human labor VALUE is lost forever... Bravo sir!

    @joeteejoetee@joeteejoetee Жыл бұрын
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      @tactileslut@tactileslut Жыл бұрын
    • Yep, I hate seeing perfectly good stuff get thrown out, and can never pass a dumpster without checking it.

      @saveitforparts@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
    • Reminds me of the Post Apocalyptic Inventor's philosophy. I love his channel.

      @clazy8@clazy811 ай бұрын
  • Whoa! I had no idea you could use small dishes in this way. That is rad! Also I didn't know you have a CS background. Nice job with the coding. I'm an IT guy by trade - had to learn Ruby over the past sixth months. I am crap at coding in general though. 😂 Looking forward to where you go with these dishes. Thanks for the great video. Very creative!

    @gannas42@gannas42 Жыл бұрын
    • I rarely do any coding, but it's actually kind of fun when it's for a weird project like this!

      @saveitforparts@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
  • I think it makes sense to have adaptive resolution: If the dish picks up a strong signal, it can use the nudge feature to increase the resolution in this area. If not the standard resolution is probably enough.

    @RubenKelevra@RubenKelevra Жыл бұрын
    • I agree... find the edge of the object and then nudge back across it to see if you can get more details. Use the more accurate nudge direction for scanning. Then "restore" back to the position it was and continue on.

      @c567591@c567591 Жыл бұрын
    • Limited resolution from the small dish size. If you could determine the resolution function imaging a point source… eg a satellite, you could deconvolve the image to get a higher resolution result. Failing that you could use multiple dishes and then use interferometry to synthesise a higher resolution… but the hardware probably won’t allow that. Cool project!!

      @peterwoolliams1283@peterwoolliams1283 Жыл бұрын
    • if you had 4 dishs in a square array, you could do a phased array to get better resolution

      @zazugee@zazugee Жыл бұрын
    • @@zazugee if you could phase connect them together and do the maths. The more in each direction and the further apart the better. If an amateur could pull it off I would be impressed.

      @peterwoolliams1283@peterwoolliams1283 Жыл бұрын
  • Very nicely done, and explained!

    @ethzero@ethzero Жыл бұрын
  • This is fantastic! Thank you for sharing and I'm looking forward to more!

    @tylers2457@tylers2457 Жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant work. Awesome video.

    @deeiks12@deeiks12 Жыл бұрын
  • Love your energy keep up this work.

    @scormat713@scormat713 Жыл бұрын
  • This is fantastic. Thanks for sharing.

    @citizenrich@citizenrich Жыл бұрын
  • I love your drive and mood! Thanks for sharing

    @sexyme8593@sexyme8593 Жыл бұрын
  • This is fascinating!

    @swanee@swanee Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome project! Thanks for sharing! 🙏

    @artrock8175@artrock8175 Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome, really inspiring stuff!

    @michalrzmichalrz6656@michalrzmichalrz665610 ай бұрын
  • This is so damn awesome, and you are such an inspiration to me.

    @sfdntk@sfdntk Жыл бұрын
  • Great job, thanks for motivation

    @pesos3@pesos3 Жыл бұрын
  • Love your interest and enthusiasm. This is great! :)

    @ntcarver@ntcarver Жыл бұрын
  • Love your work, dude

    @6079__Smith__W@6079__Smith__W8 ай бұрын
  • Excellent post. Very interesting.

    @mikerhodes9198@mikerhodes9198 Жыл бұрын
  • This is just amazingly cool. Really fun project, never knew this could be done. I'm subscribing.

    @phoenixrising4073@phoenixrising4073 Жыл бұрын
  • This is fantastic... Subscribed!!!!!

    @crackthefoundation_@crackthefoundation_ Жыл бұрын
  • Woa! I'm glad this worked! I really wanna do this!

    @ProjectGeek1@ProjectGeek1 Жыл бұрын
  • Discovered you today, watched 3 videos & can truly say you re a legend! :)

    @lavilyse2706@lavilyse27067 ай бұрын
  • That was incredibly interesting. Wonderful video!!

    @thisismyname1920@thisismyname1920 Жыл бұрын
  • I was really impressed by that! A great presentation. 👍

    @lawrencebrown3582@lawrencebrown3582 Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely brilliant work….

    @TheMalerdaemon@TheMalerdaemon Жыл бұрын
  • This is brilliant!

    @ftwproject658@ftwproject658 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent !

    @johnpeterson7264@johnpeterson72649 ай бұрын
  • This is a super cool project i have often wondered about seeing in spectrums other than light Also this channel is an instant subscribe for me

    @yanfishtwig2356@yanfishtwig2356 Жыл бұрын
  • Fun stuff. Subscribed. Great channel - look forward to seeing some of the other videos. Thanks. Cheers.

    @algorithminc.8850@algorithminc.8850 Жыл бұрын
  • Love the monitor reflection shot.

    @ryanjsmith23@ryanjsmith23 Жыл бұрын
  • Very cool project and well executed .

    @das250250@das2502509 ай бұрын
  • Love it, very interesting stuff.

    @jaycal1920@jaycal1920 Жыл бұрын
  • very well done Sir.

    @agroman77@agroman778 ай бұрын
  • I love these videos! I wish I would of found this channel sooner!

    @PhonePhreak3z@PhonePhreak3z Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome work!

    @lukysmrcek7877@lukysmrcek7877 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for this insight on radiofrequence

    @DrizzleWoolf@DrizzleWoolfАй бұрын
  • The direction the angle is measured in does make sense: from X to Y axis that is counterclockwise.

    @czerskip@czerskip Жыл бұрын
    • +Y -x + X -y

      @Youtube_free_always@Youtube_free_always Жыл бұрын
    • In celestial coordinates, East is + because that's the direction, the Earth is rotating.

      @peregreena9046@peregreena9046 Жыл бұрын
  • This was really cool!

    @DanielLopez-up6os@DanielLopez-up6os Жыл бұрын
  • Great discovery’s! Love this grass roots tech 👍

    @quadmods@quadmods Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome job!

    @Disl3cic@Disl3cic Жыл бұрын
  • Man, great attitude!! I dont know anything about radio gear but its cool hearing you get into it!

    @sam2902@sam290211 ай бұрын
  • How cool is that to see a picture like that again. I did something similar with a 1.2m Ku Band DX Dish that also had a elevation correction. But it could not move as freely as your antenna. However the picture I generated from the sattelites looked pretty much the same. This was back in 1994 when we had to take a picture, develop it and scan it with a scanner. No digital cameras back then.

    @ChipGuy@ChipGuy Жыл бұрын
  • This is really interesting. Your use of those surplus dishes is fantastic. Being able to see the 3rd harmonic of the 5.8GHz module on your PC and those geostationary satellites is very interesting.

    @daveys@daveys11 ай бұрын
  • I think you're great! One of my goals to be able to program homestead needs to actuators and such, from stuff that I find. I think I can do it. Thank you for the inspiration and information. Sending you thoughts for much success to you and your channel.

    @seemeeseeu@seemeeseeu11 ай бұрын
  • boy, I just discovered this guy and he is AWESOME!

    @dproduzioni@dproduzioni10 ай бұрын
  • This is incredibly cool

    @nekomakhea9440@nekomakhea9440 Жыл бұрын
  • This is so cool!!

    @AtrumNoxProductions@AtrumNoxProductions Жыл бұрын
  • Quick update on this, if anyone is thinking of doing the same and looking for a compatible antenna: I got my older (2011) Tailgater with the Mini-USB jack to give me a serial console. The firmware is slightly different and it doesn't have the elangle command, but everything else seems to be the same. Sadly the motors are 100% seized up from water ingress at some point (probably why I got that one for free). If I can find the same motor online I might try to replace them. So, I'm guessing any Tailgaters between at least 2011 and 2014 will work for this! You might have to substitute elev for elangle and tweak the range values in the Python code depending on firmware version.

    @saveitforparts@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
  • Really cool.

    @derickniles1329@derickniles1329 Жыл бұрын
  • VERY cool vid! I work in pro video and using a scaled waveform is similar how you can make out objects in the luminosity levels. Its like reading the matrix! Been absolutely loving the channel! I have to keep it somewhat neat at home but at work I have my hoard of parts and broken things and I love using it all to keep things working. Respect!

    @terenceokane@terenceokane Жыл бұрын
  • cool project

    @jacobdavidcunningham1440@jacobdavidcunningham1440 Жыл бұрын
  • I really like WHAT YOU DO, greetings from Argentina

    @osvaldodelcompare6627@osvaldodelcompare66277 ай бұрын
  • Very cool!

    @martink9785@martink9785 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video

    @s1l3nttt@s1l3nttt Жыл бұрын
  • This was really interesting!

    @mapleleaf4ever@mapleleaf4ever Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome episode. You're a great inspiration. Keep up the great work.

    @robwgeorge@robwgeorge Жыл бұрын
    • And you got a mention from Hackaday! Woot!

      @robwgeorge@robwgeorge Жыл бұрын
  • Thats so cool!

    @ukaszguziczak7712@ukaszguziczak7712 Жыл бұрын
  • To get higher resolution you'll actually need a better dish! That one is small and not very parabolic - that's why you see ringing artifacts around those sats on the left by the tree. Those are caused by the dish not being "focused" enough. You can think of it like bokeh from a lens that's not focused properly. It's designed just to pick up a signal, not a perfect pinpoint focused signal, which is what you'd want for clearer scanning for imaging purposes. Still awesome!

    @CharlesVanNoland@CharlesVanNoland Жыл бұрын
    • That's kind of what I thought the rings might be. I've been debating if it's worth doing the "nudge" command for smaller scan increments, but it looks like the beam width of the dish is more than a degree.

      @saveitforparts@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing

    @orion31410@orion31410 Жыл бұрын
  • Really cool stuff man , enjoyed watching and learned a lot, take care 73 de ve3hip from Welland Ontario Canada 🇨🇦

    @whitefordpipeshandmadebymi7238@whitefordpipeshandmadebymi7238 Жыл бұрын
  • thanks for the shoutout! Its really cool that you went to grad school for cs, I went to grad school for physics.

    @forTodaysAdventure@forTodaysAdventure Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for the help! This was a fun project!

      @saveitforparts@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
  • These are great vids keep up the good work😎😎

    @mike97525@mike97525 Жыл бұрын
  • Very interesting 😮

    @ianuragaggarwal@ianuragaggarwal Жыл бұрын
  • wow... very cool!

    @MitzpatrickFitzsimmons@MitzpatrickFitzsimmons Жыл бұрын
  • I love your videos! One thing to consider on these RV dish antennas is that they expect you to point them to the South, which is where their satelites are located. Keep up the great job!!

    @toddmcgowan9449@toddmcgowan9449Ай бұрын
  • This is Fascinating Experimental Tech.

    @criminalbrewing5509@criminalbrewing5509 Жыл бұрын
  • Passive radar would be super cool!

    @zebdeming@zebdeming Жыл бұрын
  • awesome!!!

    @andremantovani@andremantovani Жыл бұрын
  • Just found your channel. I'm no _Expert_ at this stuff but This seems like a really *REALLY well done* Applied (physics) Lab-type.Thingy Great Work.

    @AutomationDnD@AutomationDnD Жыл бұрын
  • Nice one dude,

    @zerobow9413@zerobow9413 Жыл бұрын
  • You're a wizard!

    @JonnyWaldes@JonnyWaldes4 ай бұрын
  • Genial saludos cordiales desde Patagonia Chile

    @premiumyt8625@premiumyt8625 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent! Well done Video, and even better experimenting!

    @usradioguy@usradioguy Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! Your projects have given me a lot of inspiration! I'm having a lot of fun slowly improving my satellite and radio skills.

      @saveitforparts@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
    • @@saveitforparts looking at your video it sure looks like that tailgator would make a nice HRPT tracker if it was fast enough. Pop that small dish off and put on a small grid dish our similar

      @usradioguy@usradioguy Жыл бұрын
  • Code is a never end learning process. Keep it up, great channel.

    @henrysara7716@henrysara7716 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for interesting video about satellite adjustable dishs technology via PC. I never installed a satellite dish (never got information about and never needed it in my first professional education as radio TV service technician (1984 analog electronic + terristrial broadcast). After finishing it I and a friend decided to qualify electrical engineering with specialization computer engineering in my home town (Flensburg University of Applied Sciences, a Motorola branch produced/shipped their first mobile phones in europe/EMEA). That was a better choice than my first choice which was unfortunately not offered in my home town: communication technology, and when meeting fresh communication engineers they told me their work was programming, so I stayed and continued going into programming and software development, but that was never my first choice, it was more by accident.

    @yutubl@yutubl Жыл бұрын
  • so interestng!

    @janf.1240@janf.1240 Жыл бұрын
  • brooo coolest reflection ever

    @bimaputranugraha5722@bimaputranugraha5722 Жыл бұрын
  • A lot of people thin that CS means programming. I also think people want to see the trials of error. It helps them understand.

    @lopiklop@lopiklop Жыл бұрын
  • Wery nice! Great work! Дякую! Так тримати!

    @electro4us@electro4us Жыл бұрын
  • Just: WOW! 😲

    @harriehausenman8623@harriehausenman8623 Жыл бұрын
  • very good videoeo !!!

    @alexandervoivoditch8163@alexandervoivoditch8163 Жыл бұрын
  • This is amazing.

    @PsRohrbaugh@PsRohrbaugh Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! I'm glad you liked it that much! I have some other satellite dish experiments on the channel, and a few coming up in the near future.

      @saveitforparts@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
  • Extremely well done. Royally look forward to more. :D

    @matts2581@matts2581 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks!

    @markrix@markrix Жыл бұрын
    • Glad you like it!

      @saveitforparts@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
  • Your code is fine 👍

    @juliusfucik4011@juliusfucik4011 Жыл бұрын
  • That's a pretty sweet milk crate collection!

    @rocklicker639@rocklicker63911 ай бұрын
  • Wow, I'm glad I came across your video, I just subbed. I started playing with one of these back in 2020, was able to control the dish over a serial console but I'm not a code guy so i haven't got back to this project. my goal was to change the LNB for a ham radio antenna and use the dish to track LEO radio satellites. Great work and I'm lookin forward to more videos on this!

    @jb2590@jb2590 Жыл бұрын
    • Cool! Glad to hear someone else has one of these, so far it seems people have a hard time finding the right model. A ham antenna would be fun, I'm not sure if the little motors can handle a 2M yagi, but maybe they'd do a 70cm. I have that on my list for some other pan/tilt junk I have lying around, just too many projects on the to-do pile.

      @saveitforparts@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
  • super!

    @sergeialeksandrovichstepan1727@sergeialeksandrovichstepan1727 Жыл бұрын
  • I originally came here because of the train stuff. But whoa! This stuff is amazing! I had NO idea you could take a 'microwave' image of a house/anything. REALLY impressive. Thanks for this. ☮

    @McRocket@McRocket Жыл бұрын
    • Glad you like it! I'm working on train stuff right now, so there should be more of that soon!

      @saveitforparts@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
    • The resolution is going to be 1/4 wavelength, same as Fish finder flashers behave.

      @joefish6091@joefish6091 Жыл бұрын
    • Essentially he’s built a passive bistatic radar that uses noncooperative transmitters. Neat stuff.

      @TheKillerSn4ke@TheKillerSn4ke Жыл бұрын
  • That is quite interesting! Glad you're having fun. That's the real point eh.

    @TheDistur@TheDistur Жыл бұрын
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