Why the Cessna Aerobat is a WEIRD Airplane - Close look
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The Cessna 150 Aerobat has many features that make it different from other aerobatic airplanes. It is one of the few airplanes that was not designed to fly acrobatics, however with minimal modifications it somehow got the approval from the FAA. In this video we take a detailed look at the rare Cessna 150 Aerobat, and see why this airplane is so unique.
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Aerobats are an amazing bang for your buck. The fact that you can have a Day/Night VFR/IFR Aerobatic airplane that burns only 5.5 gph is almost unbelievable.
My dad has some fun stories about flying the 150 aerobat back in the 70s and 80s. I have never been in one, but as someone who has spent a decent amount of time in a standard 150, I would absolutely love to!
I will add, that because its based on the same 150 base design, it DOESNT have the dynamic stability needed to recover properly using the Beggs-Mueller Spin Recovery technique. This killed an experienced instructor and student here in Australia. ATSB Investigation number AO-2021-025
My first airplane
Great little trainer for stall and spin work. Good memories.
the cool thing about kit planes is the community. SInce I got my CH 750 I have had the opportunity to fly a bunch of different aircraft. This post reminds of a trip to Boseman 4 years ago. It's 283 miles of two lane mountain highway to drive the truck and takes about 6 hours one way. As the crwo flies its a little less than 3 hours. so I flew. There on the ramp was a wonderfully poished aluminum RV sitting there. I can't remember the model but it was either the 8 or a 7. I just remember it was tandem seating. WHen I had my business doen in town and went back to fly home the owner was there and we got to talking and decided he should get to try a STOL landing and I should get to try some basic aerobatics. Wow what fun. I just dod a loop and some barrelrolls and a Cuban. Nothing with a bunch of Gs involved but I was hooked. If I ever find enough money in a bag by the roadside, I want an aerobatic plane
I loved the 150's because of the 40 degree flaps. You just had to follow the rules on a go around. Those flaps were great!
I've got a particular soft spot for the 150 Aerobat; I soloed in one.
It also has a G-meter on the panel which regular 150s don't have. A weird thing for an aerobatic aircraft is that you have to manage the throttle through the manoeuvres so that the rpm does not red-line (or worse).
Keep up the dedication p!
I took my Private checkride in one. The examiner used the g force gauge to evaluate the landings! He reset it after each landing
Well now I want one...
Love the little cessnas
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That was a pretty cool video, I had no idea these existed
Fascinating... stuff I didn't know!
First of all thanks for posting a very interesting and well done video. I can remember when these were more common and the checkerboard paint schemes. I did a flight with Air Combat USA many years ago in an Itlian made Marchietti a retractable single with side by side seating. We did aerial dog fight but mostly I just remember lots of loops, rolls and flying upside down. Pulled several G's where my vision would become tunnel to point of seeing nothing. Very transient and everything else worked fine. It made me wonder how useful a parachute would be if your plane went out of control and G forces were such that you might weigh 300-400#. Would you be able to get out to use your parachute. Guess that's a good reason for ejection seats. Some of the maneuvers we did would make climbing out of seat difficult. We of course were wearing parachutes.
RUDDER DOOR MODEL - for fun try this: one pilot has rudder/elevator. Other pilot operates doors & throttle. Good fun for coordinated/balanced turns ALSO on earlier 40 degree flap model: make your tower controller buddy spill his coffee: turn final, full flap, idle power..STUFF nose RIGHT DOWN...looks like a crash about to happen ...😵...BUT ...the mini barn doors are "terminal velocity dive brakes" = no acceleration, just HEAPS of down (but under perfect control). NOT FOR the "faint hearted" 😆 B,u Skies ✈
Beautiful interior design!
I think the reinforced empennage is for the stress of snap rolls. I’ve seen rivets loosen from that on regular 150 Commuters. Otherwise loop, roll and spin them all day.
Last time I checked, a spin is an unloaded maneuver. Doubt they beefed up the airplane for that one.
This was the model I first flew then flew solo! Even did some aerobics in it. Pulled 4.5gs and never wanted to do aerobics again; unless spins could be considered in that realm🤔🤣 ERAU 80 CFIA&I ret.
Whenever I pull G’s with an instructor they can tell I feel uncomfortable. It’s not that they make me sick, it’s that I have trouble trusting those rental airplane wings😬
@@FloridaFlying lol
@@FloridaFlying No Joke!! No telling what some idiot did right before you decide to go flying. Always get up on the fuel ladder, and look out across the top wing skins for waves and dips, and smoking rivets.
Funny enough flying out of Daytona I recognize some of those airports like KTIX and Spruce Creek which is kinda neat
Flew one before with 130 horsepower engine, not sure if it was continental or lycoming but it was a great fun...
I had the pleasure of flying a Cessna 150 Aerobat with an O-360 up front. That's 180 HP & made aerobatics a little bit more interesting! A very common conversion is to put 150 horses on an Aerobat's nose, too. Couple that bigger engine with a tailwheel & you've got an Aerobat that most pilots won't joke about so much anymore!
how fast does it go?
@@tylerhall66 My dad was the developer & owner of the "Texas Taildragger" conversion STC & also did STC engine conversion kits (150 & 180 HP for 150/152/172) so I should have those numbers, but I do not know off the top of my head. The aerobat I flew with the O-360 was very powerful and loud compared to a normal 150. I recall it feeling fast for a 150. It also vibrated a lot because of the added power. It was a taildragger, too & was what I did my initial tailwheel checkout on. I'm looking at one of my dad's Texas Taildragger/Custom Aircraft Conversions INC. brochures and it advertises 8-10 MPH increase of cruise _just_ with the tailwheel (along with many other benefits) Of course 150 and 180 HP engines would increase that speed significantly more, but I don't have numbers in front of me.
Our flying club had an Aerobat, fun little plane!
I miss the aerobat.. I got my license in it. Juneau, AK 1999. N8450M. Made landing easy in Skagway.
Taildragger mod to an Aerobat makes it even weirder.
So you could do aerobatics in a regular c150 it would just fall apart? The main difference is the additional structural support?
Technically, you could. Most basic aerobatics would not exceed the normal category G limits. But you would be right on the edge so your margin of error would be nonexistent.
Actually, the Aerobat spins very, very, nicely ..the nose stays exactly vertically 'down' ..the spin rate is quite fast ..and recovery is a cinch. Some heavier aerobatic airplanes such as the Chipmunk are pigs to spin because the nose tends to 'wobble' around the dead vertical axis, and this can then develop into a flatter and flatter spin which is something no-one ever wants because that can be deadly.
Hey the P-38 lighting had a yoke.😂
We had a 152, it was written off too many cracks from aeros. One guy would go up everyday doing aeros.
So you’re saying my instructors were wrong teaching spins in a standard Cessna 150?
I was taught spinning in a C150 but numerous misfortunes arising from intentional spinning now prohibit intentional spinning. It has progressed to recovering from "Incipient Spins"
I had an instructor who would go high and spin a standard 150 10 turns. Was fun as hell. I used to do multi turn spins on most every flight. Apparently i was lucky!! 😱😂
@@victorpalamar8769 You can still spin a normal 150 if you comply with the rudder stop AD.
Yes, cool plane. I like it.
I soloed the 152, I think it has a more powerful lycoming? I cant remember. Love your bird! Enjoy it!
Yes, the Lycoming O-235 that is in all 152's, is rated at 110/108 hp. Same engine that's in all 152 Aerobats.
First of all The struts Always the struts
I have a lot of time in the areobat and I don't think it's weird at all that you can do rolls with a yoke.
I’ve flown that exact one!
What is the difference in aircraft limitations/load factor ratings?
4gs in the standard and 6gs in the aerobat
Why is aerobat spelled upside down?
How much does it cost now ?
So funny how that's the exact school I train at. I've always wanted to fly in 90pp
Flop tube in the fuel tanks and pressure carburetor in the engine? The Aerobats I flew didn't have either.
No they do not
More than a little stronger, it's a whole bunch stronger!!
Aft strengthening: for spins ? No! All USA GA types were certified for spin training - "back then ...back when" it was mandatory training sequence. So, all airframe additional strengthening was part of an overall beefup. ✈
My flight school has 6 aerobats
These sure have gotten expensive going for 80k now an aerobats later years.
If you can find one, they are 😎
Forgot to show SYMMETRICAL WING !! No flat underside
It is not symmetrical. It’s 99% the same wing as the standard 150
@@FloridaFlying In 1986 in Toronto's Centennial College hangar for the aircraft maintenance course was a cessna150 with a symmetrical wing. "Hey look the wing is symmetrical". The instructor stood there and said "look at it" he said it was for flying upside-down, that the plane was rated for it, for aerobatics, but he never suggested it had a name of AEROBAT and I don't recall that name from anything at the time. Don't know the model year . Also the wing-tip fairings were symmetrical, not like the drooped ones on the video. I made an assumption but I was wrong: the video here shows a somewhat different variant for sure. More research for me...the other thing I clearly remember is it had special BATTERY CAPS with weights in them to pull a valve closed when upside-down so sulfuric acid doesn't piss-out...GOOD TIMES!!
Unfortunately because of my height I will never fly that.
Yeah it’s a little small. My instructor was about 6’2” and that’s about the limit
03:50 Svetlana Kapanina!
Is the aerobat more valuable? I love watching Svetlana Kapanina she really yanks on that stick.
The aerobats I see for sale are usually 10-15k USD more than a standard Cessna 150. Engine/airframe time really makes a difference. There is a pristine one for sale for about 70k
Maybe someone will spoon a slightly bigger motor in there.
2:09 lol it's the Crown Vic cop chip all over again
The IFR certified 150 Aerobat...for the ones that want to fly an inverted ILS and then roll to wings level@ 200' 🤭🤭🤭
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So cool
"Kind of wierd" ???
The Trim is worthless in the sense it does not5 teach you trim
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