Dacia Duster 2WD vs 4WD In Mud 2024
2021 ж. 6 Сәу.
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Dacia Duster 4x4 1.5 Blue dCi 115HP on mud - comparing 2WD vs 4WD mode, 4WD vs Auto. ESC On vs Off.
Tires: Riken Suv Snow 215/60/R17.
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with that mud, the tyres are the key. ( p.s.: poor clutch. rip )
hahaha poor clutch rip :D
Che poi ...con il Ginny ha fatto oltre 3 prove e con il Duster si ferma alla prima?
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This was silly. The true strength of 4x4 is the ability to go slowly with control. Just hitting the gas tells nothing about the quality of the 4x4.
Even 4x4 duster isn't meant for heavy offroading. It is supposed to be a family car with ground clearance which can take some light offroading. Bottom line, either go for the best or go for what certain amount of money can buy the best. Duster is budget friendly, that is the whole point but if you want to do serious offroading, you use nothing less than a Jeep with 35inch tyres.
@@memd777 I appreciate the reply. However, it sounds prejudiced. I've seen comparisons between the Duster and other 4x4s and the Duster is performing pretty well.
4*4 and awd is a big difference
@@hellsbells8979 its the same while you have 4 wheels
@@gorovitz no, make research first, then talk
I can smell the clutch
Its alright there only like 10p to replace parts on haha🤣
This wouldnt wear on the clutch. The engine is revving high because the wheels are spinning not because of clutch slip.
Automatic doesnt have clutch
@@rvlrintluanga4705 automatics have at least one clutch, some of them have two clutches.
@@-Giannis Not quite true, on dacia yes, because it's a robotic automatic, on bmw it has torque converter, instead of a clutch.
Bro you are the only one who is keeping the Legendary Duster's Legacy still alive in us! Love you bro😘😘😘
My perception is that under this condition of good ground support but low friction the tire type, tire pressure and weight distribution in the car is much more effective than 4WD and traction control.
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Thanks for this video. Good example.
Duster is one of my favorite car thnx to make this video bro.
Foarte bun videoclipul! Mulțumim!
Its all about the tire.if you guys use mud tyre then it can climb easily
1. On 2WD just turn off ASR/TCR traction controll, need higher speed before climbing and try slightly turn steering wheel right-left in mud. Constantly use accelerator. 2. Must have allterrain wheels or allseason
You should definitely try to low pressure, even your AT tires will surprise you. 2.2 bar is too much. Try 1 bar or even 0.7-0.6 bar, but in that case you should steer very carefully. Good luck.
bring a portable pump
@@lostcluster2 he says - "don't play with a steering wheel too fast, cause on a low-pressure - you have a change to disengage a tire from a disc because of it's weak corners"
Def need mud tyres!
2wd gives you more of an advantage with ESC disabled, another advantage is being at the the service center getting a clutch swapped. Yes, I know this was a demo so I am sure all risk were considered
ESC is forcing your engine to a weaker mode, and also brake pads will trying to stop wheel spinning to give you some "extra" grip, which you probably never get, that's why ESC should be off sometimes.
why swap the clutch? With any transmission type, even DSG, full throttle is better than less throttle. since at full throttle the clutch is as good as not actuated and is engaged directly
Do you know how the duster (and actually most) 4x4 lock work? If you go under a certain speed (usually it's in the range of 20-40 km/h) it will stay locked, if you go above it will unlock. So in conclusion, the tests you did with 4x4 lock on was on for the first 2 seconds, as soon as the wheels start to spin at that speed it will disengage it, even though the car wasn't moving fast. So those tests were useless but it did tell something valuable, and that is that the tests were bad and what counted more was the car's momentum than the 4x4 system.
level 100 player :)))
Bien dit. Ce soi disant test est nul. Allez plutôt regarder les tests de professionnels.
Do you know that Duster is AWD not 4x4 and it works actually by detecting slippage.
@@jec_ecart Ok let me inform how the slippage works: 2 wheel drive, the 2 wheels slip > 4wd coupling engaged and it should direct power to all 4 but there is a catch. All these cars with these kind of coupling are designed to work when slipping on low speed and it doesn't work under heavy load of higher speeds so after a wheel(very important wheel speed) of 25-30-35 (depending on the manufacturer) the coupling disengages and becomes 2wd because it cannot handle the stress.
@@level1player3 AWD is mostly designed for snow or light duty. For heavy duty one needs a proper transfer case.
I LOVE this videos
Guys I live in the mounty area! Rule - don’t worry about the clutch. Really . Just don’t . It’s just a consumable part and needs to be used well than replaced at necessity. It’s a car Burnt your clutch enjoy and don’t worry . It must be burned . Sometimes you need to find the spot of traction and the only way to do it is to burn your clutch a bit . In duster even if you really burn your clutch really badly it will still last 250-300 thousand miles . So stop worrying And enjoy your car
The color of the tires look so nice you should paint them in that autumn color. Dark blue-silver body with dark gold tires :))
Glad i bought a landrover
Hi buddy. I ordered 4wd Duster 1.3Tce\CVT for myself ☺
Very good choice! Many miles with it!!
@@DusterCoolTravels thx!)
which was the final price?
@@malvasia17 final price for what?
@@DusterCoolTravels for the 1.3 auto
When you put the ESC off on boat conditions yours acelaration is the bouble. Its not right
Hi man, great video..I have some questions...I consider Duster as a family car for us(me+ wife+ one child) I would probably take the 2wd version (mainly because its a lot cheaper) and i would like to know if its capable of some light offroading, like going to a vacation to cottage on some non asphalt road. But it would be mainly used on asphalt roads and in city. Is it a good car for this kind of driving? Also I'm considering the 1.33tce 130 engine. Thanks
lol, obviously its suitable for that
@@nofrigginidea3728 well my biggest concern is if it will get me through some off-road even with 2wd only
It depends on the condition of the trail you go on. I f the trail has sections where you can't use the speed to get by and you have to go slow, there are chances you'll have to force the car a lil bit. but if the trail is ok, even with 2wd you can pass it. high ground clearance and good angle of attack are helping alot.
Get the 2wd learning some driving skills and good tire are way cheaper than 4wd. Even 4wd is useless when you have race-tires and an idiot driver
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Nicely done. 👍
Unde-s locurile alea superfaine de la inceputul videoclipului? Arata superb
Обожаю дастер! У меня дастер 1.6, но резина АТ, где ездил дастер на видео, я с легкостью проезжаю. Единственная преграда - когда колеса развешиваются, то сложно выехать.
Rural roads in india are more or less similar to listed road/ track. The amount of dirt these roads have, we need tractors during monsoon season.
4:14 this tire colour is really nice. Why not finding it on the market? Why different colours are not allowed?
Tenho uma Duster 4WD há 5 anos. Uso muito a tração e APROVO. Não se entra num aclive liso com essa displicência. Não saio da chácara nem com tempo seco nessa tocada aí.
o doidão lá meteu o loco kkk
Usas muito no sítio? Recomenda ela? Procuro uma ranger mas duster é um pouco mais em conta, inferior, mas que faz um bom serviço aparentemente
@@robsonrabelo3311A 2.0 e a 1.3 turbo são maravilhosos
You had more initial momentum while in auto ... with that momentum you can climb with 2wd as well
But what if it is 4WD that enables you to have more momentum... In the 2WD try with ESC off that seems pretty flat out to me.
Cool video👍👍👍
In 2WD model I find it helpful to turn on eco mode when the front wheels start to slip
Interesting. It sends less power as you would start in second gear or something like that?
@@DusterCoolTravels eco mode only really decreases throttle response, so it's perfect to avoid wheel slip. Not quite the same as starting in second gear, because you still have same power and torque, only delivered slower.
Hey, ich finde es echt cool. Auf so eine Fahrt hätte ich auch mal Lust. Würde gerne mal mitfahren….. 😃
Why anyone would attempt driving in mud on winter tires is beyond me. To drive in mud You need mud tires, anything else will be unable to go very far.
Ein anschaulicher Vergleich. Danke.
Nice test
Si eu am fost zilele trecute cu al meu pe un astfel de drum, forestier iti zic sincer ca, cu setul de cauciucuri care l-am pus pentru iarna, rar am simtit nevoia de o tura. Am dat ceva bani pe ele dar s-a meritat 100%. Cauciucurile fac diferenta enorm de mult.
anvelope de iarna pe drum forestier ? pe forestier te duci cu MD'uri
Da, nu am specificat, Iarnă-Mixte de la General Tires, mai scumpe o leacă, dar își fac datoria foarte bine și pe teren mai moale nu doar pe zăpadă.
Without off road tires they had no chance. Suffering in the mud.
Wow. You successfully proved that a 4 wheels drive will go where a 2 wheels drive will not. Very useful video. And over 1 mil views. :)))))))
Many thanks 👍
If possible can you make a video with using chains tires on sand, thanks you.
It’s kind of hard to find sand in my area 😄
@@DusterCoolTravels oh ok ,anyway thankfully
Dacă se mai defriseaza mult, vine si sand u.
De curiozitate: cate fise ii dati la spalatorie dupa o “iesire” ???😀
Maxim 6😄
@@DusterCoolTravels wow. E bine.
remove air from the tyres. Of course contact patch is bigger but more important your profile will clean out itself from the mud so you have more grip
Indeed. The same like on beach sand
why dont you change gear to second ?
Duster Top 🔝!!!
I cant see why you should buy a Duster 2wd IF you have any offroad travel ahead or even snow roads. I have big use of my 4wd here in the north anyway. Pulling up 2wd cars up every winter : )
You’re right, especially in your area , where you have snow a lot of time during the year .
Could someone explain me how 4WD Lock mode knob works? I see 4WD Lock written on display but it disappears just when I leave the knob.
Da, dispare de pe afișaĵ precum vezi și scrie cartea tehnica. Dar se decupleaza la o anumita viteza automat, dacă se supraincalzeste ,sau depăsesti o anumita viteza! O poți decuplat și din buton ,exact cum l ai activat,tot așa butonul nu rămâne. Indicat ar fi chiar foarte indicat ,să citești puțin cartea tehnică!
Muy útil gracias
Real checking the ability of 4/4 car option
What’s ESC?
Muy buen vídeo
Conclusion, you need mud tires.
This Duster isn't 4WD, it is AWD which is different. If you have 4WD you can nearly get 50% of your power to the rear and 50% to the front. Plus you can mechanically lock the differentials. The AWD system isn't developed for off roading, that's why the front and rear tyres spinning with different speed at 4:13 for example. The two front tyres also spins at different speed. If you have 4WD you can have all your tyres will spin nearly at the same speed. So it's just addittional information for it, as far as i know this is the main differencies. Otherwise, the namings are very confusing and it is not at all clear that there is any difference between AWD and 4WD at all.
That's exactly why I'm getting front and rear lockers on my AWD 08 Grand Cherokee...
@@FluffyHawk13 Thats a good idea i think!
That clutch was never slipping, what you guys on about?
Good news!!
the truth is : 4WD (4 wheel drive ) lets you to drive better in off-road. it can also help in stabliyzing the car in road. 2WD (2 wheel drive) only uses front two wheels -which is faster- costs more fuel oil or smth. 4WD better in off-road...ESC (electronic stabily control) improves the car sharp returns
were you just born and leaned this? why are you explaining this?!
Good explanation video
Good Video 👍 But you press the gass pedal more what time close the esp 😉
It’s because the esp doesn’t let you rev the engine that much.
Data viitoare, poate ii puneti si niste roti mud/snow...
отличная техника. мне нравиться. 🔥🔥🔥
Esse motor é a diesel? Aqui no Brasil só temos esse veículo a gasolina e etanol. Seria muito bom se tivéssemos uma versão turbo diesel!
O Duster possui motores Renault, somente gasolina e GLP. Na Europa, eles querem abolir o diesel porque polui muito, mas para mim eles podem melhorá-los. Na Itália alguém tentou colocá-los a gás, dizem que dá para fazer ...
@@hornets419 the same on france for the diesel. but there is 1.5dci 110 in france
So quem consegue fazer isso sem 2w,4w e o Fiat Uno ele e o Fusca passa em qualquer atoleiro🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dear lord! What did you think leaving the ESC on? Clutch and brakes😪
Es diesel?
При такой покрытии не следует так сильно газовать, тем более если это дизель. Воткнул 1 передачу, чуть разогнался, переключил на вторую и держишь обороты не ниже 2000 об/мин, но не надо раскручивать выше 3000 об/мин.
There is no issue with clutch...because duster have a short first gear,and do not need too much clutch use.I drive like 8 month of year a duster in such condition in a romanian montain farmland,and clutch isnt a issue at all,and yes tyres make difference.
I wonder what a 2wd duster would do with MT front tires.
Not too much. Especially if the terrain is muddy. No matter how good are the tires, if the back wheels are not helping, you will fail very easy and get stuck.
@@DusterCoolTravels I crashed a pickup at very very low speed with AT tires at mud. It was like flat ice. From your answer I understand that MT tires are not any miracle.
@@boatsandoutboards9070 no, I meant that 2wd is zero in mud Offroad no matter the tires.
@@DusterCoolTravels ok, thanks
@@DusterCoolTravels Com certeza vc nunca viu um Fiat Uno no Brasil, você vai se impressionar com o que ele é capaz de fazer.
Duster is best SUV... Muscular and rough n tough..
I like to se this Duster with a good set of BFGOODRICH ALLTERRAIN / MUDTERRAIN TIRES. Then see what it does.
Як перекласти мову?
It does verry well with BF alllterrains.
Why not test UAZ vs Dacia??
For 2wd. Not unless you got mud tires and run low psi.
Good video
Decat sa crape motoru supra turat in treapta 1 puteai sa dai treapta 2 boss
best experience
Not bad. Nothing is getting up there without aggressive tires anyway.
put the differential lock, reduce the tire pressure to 1 bar and get on the road.
cant do this on duster
It sounds like a combine harvester
Wow i never saw someone go full gas in mud 😂😂 i hope it was just for the video 😭
How to programmatically disable ESC on the front drive?
You cannot do that. There's no ESC button on 2WD Dusters. But try ECO mode instead. I've heard it helps to climb snowy hills.
@@Matezz Does ECO mode help you climb snowy hills? How can ECO mode help? Sometimes I have to get out of the mud.
Should ECO mode be turned on or off?
@@peterdemchenko ECO On. With limited power it somehow finds the grip better than with ECO off. That's just what I've read on Dacia forums.
Gitarka 👍💪
ESC se aprinde periodic oricum când roțile alunecă mult timp? Deși înainte a fost oprit cu un buton!
Nu, daca se aprinde martorul care clipeste, este pentru a avertiza soferul ca rotile se invart in gol.
Are this real offroad tires, or just snow tires?
This is not Lada Niva, that is for sure.
So the main objective for the 2WD version was to getting stuck in the mud right?
Pésimo vehículo 4x4 sin comentarios..
It has snow tires and the owner is putting too much throttle. If it had mud tires it probably would've done better
@@hjavier9683 and the 4wd did great, the FWD that had bad results, dumb
Nice looking motor
Is this cat powered by diesel? Here in Brazil this model is sold by trademark Renault and is flex powered. You can use gasoline or alcohol (etanol) . Exatly the same car !
Yes, is a diesel cat😌
Gipsys car.
he just gives more gass XD
Doesn’t do anything in wet mud. Slowly does it.
Its the tcs
Ce masina urca pana acolo sus, unde se vad urme?
tot cu dusterul am urcat, cu ceva zile inainte.
tot cu dusterul am urcat, cu ceva zile inainte.
Ella tiene la potencia para sortear el terreno se nesecita unas llantas con más agarre y para colmo con loma el terreno o sea si es buena está camioneta para este clase de terreno
Proper off road tyres to suit the conditions you were testing in would have made a huge difference..I have all season Mitchellin cross latitude tyre's and their crap in this, when I switch to at3's the difference is night and day..
How does it compare with Subaru Forester? I think Subaru might have a better AWD.
never tested the Subaru Forester.
Samir you're breaking the car !!!
Dusterul nu a fost niciodata 4WD dar AWD. O masina 4WD are intotdeauna cutie de transfer cu trei cardane.😊
O problema é não é do carro, e sim de uma pescinha atrás do volante ,se trocar melhora
End line is it worth buying ?
yes.
Would make better progress steering lock to lock and let the sidewalls of the tyres get you out. I used to train people in 4X4's in worse mud and snow than that and in the old boxy Dacia Dusters in the nineties that suffered a lot from wheel wind up.
Dacia duster in the 90s? Are you talking about the one built on an ARO model?
SUPER.👍
Em suma, ande apenas no asfalto com ele!!
Eu tenho uma 4WD há 5 anos. Uso a tração todos os finais de semana até a chácara, com ou sem chuva. São 52 Kms de terra. Sobe tudo. Só saber conduzir. O povo local usa correntes. Aprovado!
Loved the Duster, but sadly in India diesel discontinued, now only available with turbo petrol.
Daca ar fi sa-mi iau un duster, categoric nu l-as alege pe al tau 😂
What is the use of such a car in the end?
It’s the compromise between daily use and Offroad 😄