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lol no
At class 64 you should have included kirby and dedede because kirby 64 was also an awesome game
Fix Cloud's classic mode, is complete garbage now that Sephiroth and more songs are in.
You know how to mod
Themes that I liked: 1. The Ice Climbers going up against other pairs such as Mario and Peach, Link and Zelda, Ryu and Ken, and finally the Hands. 2. Wolf fighting all of his fellow fighters who like him didn’t come back in Smash 4 (not even as DLC) or even (in Young Link and Pichu’s case) in Brawl, ending with a boss fight with Galleom, a boss battle from Brawl’s Subspace Embassy. (Note: Squirtle and Ivysaur were both fought separately since neither was in Smash 4 but since Charizard was (as a solo fighter).)
An interesting one for Luigi would be “Eternal Understudies”, where he fights characters who are sidekicks, partners, and allies to other characters. These would include Diddy Kong, Ken, Robin, Inkling (as Agent 3), Young Link, and a fight against Crazy Hand.
Ooh! That'd be cool.
UNDERRATED
Yes
Why young link?
@@Irrationaaaaal Because
I still feel like Palutena needs a boss change to Ganon. I mean he's literally called the Demon King. It just fits.
I think Dracula fits it better, he is literally the Prince of Darkness (but Ganon suits it too)
@@tonicortadofernandez2961 well I think Ganon fits better because of the angels vs demons trope. But I can see where you're coming from. Dracula is still a good choice.
Too be fair, Master Hand and Crazy Hand are gods in the Smash Bros original lore. (Based on the trophy descriptions in previous games)
@@goroakechi235 In Castlevania lore, Dracula is the opposite of God. So it would make sense that a goddess would fight a being that oposes her kind.
@@lyncario5515 I did not know that. Thank you for the information.
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I understand the mindset with the change to Terry’s last fight but, Ken kinda needs to be there. Ken was treated as Terry’s Capcom rival in the Capcom Vs. SNK series, and that last Classic Mode fight in itself is a callback to Capcom Vs. SNK because the whole point of this route is playing off of KOF’s team mechanic which carried over into the CVS series and you can even play a team of Ryu, Ken and Terry in CVS2 if you wanted to.
Yeah make sense so don't replace Ken with K because it a prefect rival of SNK vs Capcom.
I also where is the Pokemon Team Battle
Why no mario? He's from super smash bros, a fighting game?
All of Wario’s fights should be sudden death battles, mimicking his micro-games
Nice!
yes.
No
69th like, nice!
@@umwha No I think Wario's route should have references to Wario Land, since his victory theme is from Shake it.
If you still wanted to keep the N64 theme with OoT you could swap out Ganondorf with Shiek and use him and his Ganon form for the end.
Imagine a Custom Classic Mode for Miis, to where you choose the Miis you play as, choose the Name, Stages, Conditions, Items, and Final Boss. A bit of a bias, but every Mii you make can have a unique route.
Nice
I would make one for Sans called “Judgment”, taking on the fighters that either regularly kill monsters like Ness and Mario, or ones who have killed a lot regardless, like Ridley. The penultimate fight would be Samus, due to her literately committing genoside to the Metroids. As for the boss I don’t know, maybe a Mii or a Villager to stand in for Frisk that you have to kill as many times as you need as they get faster and stronger to reference the resets, maybe the last few could be Chara stand-ins.
@@maroonknight5252 I’d make one for waluigi called ‘out of the spotlight’. These characters usually don’t get much love from their own games or are hated in the smash community. The characters: Jigglypuff Little Mac Ness and Lucas (Bonus game goes here) The fire emblem characters Dark pit (because of smash 4) Final fight: luigi
Currently I thought about that too, and I thought it would be something crazy and unlikely, but considering that the Miis are the only characters that do not have their classic mode, it may happen in the future.
@SuperStation4 That has to be the best idea I've ever heard of.
For part 2, you should change the Rob classic mode to “A Journey Through Subspace,” which is a reference to Brawl and the Subspace Emissary first is a battle Mario, Pit, Twilight Princess Link, Yoshi, and Kirby, then Meta Knight, Marth, Ike, Lucario, and Snake, then Bowser, Ganondorf, and Wario, then Pokémon Trainer, Lucas, Ice Climbers, and a Scoped Rob, then King Dedede, Luigi, and Ness, then Toon Link, Jigglypuff, and Wolf, with boss staying as Galleom.
Nah, save that for if Tabuu becomes a fighter.
Seems a bit much, but it definitely sounds more interesting.
This seems like something i would think of, invte ur friends to like ur comment so aaronitmar sees this its genius
Have Sonic be an allied fighter against Galleom.
@@real_abender Hahahaha. NO.
Byleths shouldve been teacher related or something. The whole FE series classic mode thing has already been done , so do something unique to Byleth Whether it be mercenaries (Ike, Samus, Snake) Fighting student characters (Joker, school outfit Inkling) Or links to time and divine pulse (Young link, Bayonetta)
I’d personally do something that would reference 3 houses instead focusing on their teacher role or abilities. I’d have it go Round 1: Giant Simon with Ike as an ally. This references the tutorial map of the game and Ike alludes to Jeralt, the father of the player character. Round 2: A hoard battle of 6 dark pits before ending on a Meta Knight with the Dark Meta Knight skin. This references chapter 5 of 3 Houses where you need to fight a bunch of bandits(mostly archers) led by a characters scarred on his face. You’ll be partnered with a Dimitri skinned Byleth as the main boss is the brother of one of the blue lions and suggest you’re playing the Blue Lion route. Round 3: 2 Byleths with the Edelgard and Dimitri colors, a Robin, and a ganondorf with Claude skin Byleth as an ally. This references the mock battle/battle of the eagle and lion. This will be a team battle with each group trying to win over each other. This one assumes the golden deer route as well with Claude as your partner Round 4: A Lucina who upon defeat will lead into a giant Robin with Edelgard Byleth as an ally. This references chapter 10 where you fight the murders of an important character. Your pairing with Edelgard skin Byleth also references that you’re playing Black Eagles Then the final 3 rounds will reference the 3 boss maps of each respected class. Round 5: Beast King Ganon with Dimitri skin Byleth as an ally. This refers to the final boss the Blue Lions take on in Hegemon Edelgard who has transformed into a giant beast. Round 6: hoard battle of a bunch of fire emblem characters with Giant Marth as the last one with Claude skin Byleth as your ally. This references the final map for the golden deer as the Marth would allude to its final boss nemesis, a bandit turned corrupt and killed the goddess. Robin would also work but I really don’t wanna repeat. The final round would be first against Palutena and then shift into a fight again Rathelos with Edelgard skin Byleth as an ally. This references the black eagles final boss in the form of the immaculate one who is Rhea’s alternate form and resembles Palutena if you compare.
How about a route referencing FE gameplay mechanics, like Class Changes or Permadeath?
Don't forget the Yu and P3P miis.
@@perkilatorxiii5179 Class change theme would work super well with the FFIII protags but they're not in this game. Onion Knight represents them in Dissidia but that's it.
Or let multi-talented be the name of the route and have fighters that use a lot of different weapons or items be the theme. link, samus, pac man maybe, sheik, belmont...
I wish the Mii’s had classic modes
Yea
same
Ikr
Yea, it’s so confusing that they don’t, Mii Brawler’s could literally be called “A brawl for all”
The petition starts now.
there are two boss fights I feel should be changed: -Lucas should end with a fight against Marx as his classic theme is about fighting characters with psychic or magic powers -Sonic should end with a fight against Galleom for obvious reasons
Yes
Lucas could also get Dracula, which is what I did for my mod
And sonic should also in addition to fighting a giant metal sonic, fight a black sonic to represent shadow.
@@livandmaddieftwrobloxnoobs8518 Here's an idea about the final battle is Ike, then you fight a giant Zelda to reference Sonic and the Black Knight🤩🤩🤩🤩.
I really like the idea for Banjos route, way too many characters have a “doubles” route
It's only Banjo & Ice Climbers
What a coincidence that you uploaded a video related to classic mode the same day
@@ItzAdrian02 Pyra/Mythra as well, the doubles type route is one of the most disliked due to it being so common
Ironically, Banjo-Kazooie have my favorite take on the "doubles" theme. I loved the cosplaying Duck Hunt at the first round... But I see your point of it being an overdone theme.
@@TheMack625 Pyra and Mythra have an interesting take as well, though I would have loved a Route that referenced Blade Combos in a similar way to Shulk's Classic Mode.
Pac-man’s new classic mode route “Namco Museum” or “Arcade Classes” Each round represents a different namco arcade game Round 1 is based on pac-man with Roy, Larry, Wendy, and Iggy representing the ghost and the stage is pac-land in battlefield form Round 2 is Galaga which is set in Lylat Cruise in omega form. The battle will be a horde battle against meta-knight or ridley who represent the bugs and your partner in the battle is samus or ROB who represent the galaga ship Round 3 Dig-Dug, your opponents will be 2x charizards and 2x kirby who represents fygar and pooka with ritcher who represents Dig-dug, as your partner, and the stage is set in great cave offensive Round 4 Mappy, set in Luigi’s mansion, your partner is pikachu representing mappy and your opponents are 3x incineroars who represent the cats Round 5 Rally X set in figure-8 circuit your opponent is Wario who present the red cars Round 6 sky kid which will be set on pilot wing and opponent will be falco The final round could either be a battle against Kazuya which would represent Tekken or a battle against Ganon with a mii fighter Gil outfit as your partner representing the Tower of Druaga
Ooh cool
The final round also serves as a double reference for that one weird time he was in Street Fighter X Tekken
In terms of Shulk, surely there’s some way they could’ve had the fight be on Gaur Planes and have the battle end once he defeats Metal Face. Why not have the Miis fight Dark Emperor on Find Mii? The stage bosses, though few, really should’ve been utilised.
Miis don't have classic routes
@@NinjaPickle still would've been a nice addition
@@NinjaPickle true but they should imo
@@NinjaPickle That explains exactly why I do not remember them. I just assumed that the routes were as forgettable as the Miis themselves.
@@BradRLee I main mii sword fighter lol, they're a lot of people online who use them too.
8:11 Well... I thought Master Hand was going to be the final boss, reference to Smash 64. But idk
I think it would make more sense for Cloud’s classic mode boss to be Sephiroth’s 7th alt since that one is truly the final boss of Final Fantasy 7
Or you have to fight him twice with the second stock being topless Sephiroth. Just a plain vanilla fight against Sephiroth is a tad boring.
Just so you know, DLC can't be part of other character's classic. They aren't going to let you fight against a character you didn't pay for.
Ok I don’t know how changing Mario’s classic mode from fighting Nintendo’s biggest stars to just a Super Mario RPG reference is “fixing it”
People like Mario RPG and People also like Mario RPG and also Geno is there
It's not, it's just biased
Just for Geno, i guess...
@Micah _Wah Yeah no need switch Mario classic mode in Smash Ultimate. It fine what it is instead of Super Mario RPG make it odd for Mario.
Yeah…I do love the Super Mario RPG reference, but that’s reference to 1 game compared to the other one that’s Nintendo as a whole And maybe it would’ve made more sense for them to be team matches vs. characters that resemble the bosses/antagonists on stages that look similar to their arenas, rather than fighting his allies, and Giga Bowser just doesn’t make sense to be the SMRPG final boss when Bowser was such a pushover in that game and an ally himself that helps fight the real final battle, and has no plans to take over anything after because he’s fixing his castle, Galleon would’ve made much more sense to be after Metal Dedede to be Smithy’s phase 2, while the “Booster” fight should’ve been put with his “Sniffits” to make room for the Bowser fight, that could’ve been the first to reference the very beginning of the game, and Bowser is the only real party member you fight
Honestly I do feel like Mario's route is a little too specific to RPG. Considering how many Mario games there are, it's so weird that he doesn't fight other characters from his games. I'd at least replace the ''brewster'' fight with one referencing SML2, with Mario and Wario duking it out on a castle stage. That and maybe have Luigi appear as an ally for a few of the stages too.
When creating Classic Modes, they dont use any DLC other than the DLC that was introduced, a main reason being not everyone buys a Fighter Pass, so they only use the DLC character, stage, and music, so when making these routes its best to keep them in mind.
Yeah but you can fight dlc characters/play on dlc stages online, so them showing up in classic mode wouldn't be that big of a deal
@@Stratilex It is, because you yourself havent downloaded the content, but youre recieving info from another console online. Thats also why you cant save a replay video if you havent purchased the content shown(music, stage, character, mii, etc) By this logic they have to be applied when making Classic modes. Thats also why Spirit Fights that appear in World of Light arent changed when say, Min Min, or Shantae mii, got added, because its base game content and they dont want to change it because you might not have the DLC
@@theraltsguy i am completely agree with you. Not all people buy dlc. Although arron's idea could work, but the paid dlc border is the reason why the development team decided not to update the classic mode and the spirit fighter that is not miis. Well, the advent children cloud got his exclusive fs but that was just a free update. For updating the classic mode and spirit fighter that is not miis with dlc characters wouldn't work (well on the base game without dlc)
Like spirit battle, If the player does not have corresponding DLC, other characters or stages are used instead.
@@capstalker5539 people always forget this simple fact. This kind of DLC "enhancement" to base game is already a thing. I doubt it would be a huge undertaking to give another reason to purchase the DLC for better classic modes
Nice, odyssey central made his own version of improvements for classic mode today too
Yes and it's much better
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Why would Mario's classic mode only reference Mario RPG of all things?
cause they know geno will never make it in
Because every other important Mario game has already been represented in one way or another.
@@CrazyHand7894 yeah but this is his classic mode, you'd think they'd reference it in one fight and reference other games in the other fights
Bias.
Because the community really wants to make Mario RPG seem more important then it is.
So the thing with Sephiroth’s classic mode…while it’s cool he fights every boss in the game, tbh that should’ve just been a mode that EVERY character can be used in. So instead, Sephiroth’s classic mode should focus on fights with the playable cast of villains, with the final boss being Galeem to keep the reference to his reveal trailer
You can’t fight Galeem on Classic Mode.
Or maybe a route referincing the first 7 Final Fantasy games, with Cloud as the last battle.
While I appreciate having Majora's Mask rep in the Banjo route, I feel for more 64 representation you could have had a battle against Kirby and Dedede, representing Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards.
I agree because the Zelda series is hogging the routes way too much
With Roy's being a Trial of Swords, I found it a little weird that he never fights Ganon (who litteraly has swords). Instead he gets Master Hand and calls it a day. If they wanted to do the hands, I would have chosen to have him fight locked characters in Melee, then have him fight Crazy Hand exclusively.
Yeah I never liked it. I was thinking that he could join with a CPU Koopaling Roy and a Mii named Roy. The route has the Fire Emblem Roy fight characters that all have the same name. (Including Genders) 1. Link, Young Link, and Toon Link 2. Bowser and Bowser Jr. 3. Samus and Dark Samus 4. Dark Pit and Pit 5. 6 Miis Fighters Final round: Ganondorf then turns into Ganon which keeps the two Roy’s with the FE Roy. 😊
I've always felt R.O.B's was underwhelming. Having unreadable expressions sort of fits, but R.O.B is the Robotic Operating Buddt. Why did they not either have them fight other robots _or_ have them fight the 'buddy' characters of the series? Bonus points if there is some way to make them robotic / metallic. Even better yet would be a reference to Subspace, with the huge army of R.O.B's. Why not have them fight all the characters they encountered in chronological order, then at the end of the run R.O.B realises what theyve been doing was wrong and they fight against the people who were controlling them. It would be such a cool little nod to Subspace and R.O.B pivotal role in the story.
If its possible to give the Miis a classic mode, I'd love to see that
It would probably be for games where you can customize your character/use MIIs and it would be cool if the boss battle was Matt (Nintendo probably wouldn't do that so it could be a Mario mii or something idk)
Meta Knight's theme is about characters with a good and evil version (hence "two sides of the same coin"), so changing his boss from Master and Crazy Hand to Marx would ironically fit his classic mode worse.
Can't be a worse fit than Inkling having Marx as their boss.
@@chrisjackson6149 Splatoon is themed around paint. Marx gives the paint copy ability for some of his attacks.
If Waluigi was a character, his path should be rejected fighters that didn’t make the cut lol
So fighters that were rejected from previous Smash games but eventually got in, like Bowser and Ridley as two examples
Basically waluigi only fights mii fighters
@@IcyDiamond hey it's you again!
Mewtwo, Snake, uhhhh...
He could fight against mii fighters with assist trophys
The way I’d fix it, is readding Porky as a boss. It’d help fix a lot of the issues and add variety. As I feel like he fits a lot of characters who have had to deal with monsters and mechs. Also, make the villains and hero’s final bosses each other, like Ridley fights Samus.
Adding another boss would be difficult to add to a game already jam-packed with small details and with how complicated the design for Porky's mech is As for the second suggestion, that would be stupid, because that would disrupt the theme of their routes
YES
Why would you put porky from looney toons in a platform fighter though?
@@arusu6478 He meant Porky from Earthbound
@@arusu6478 Ness and Lucas' father's were killed in a pig related accident.
For Pyra and Mythra I think a really fun theme could be "Legendary weapons" (either in universe or real world famous) with them being Blades. Link(s), the Belmonts, Cloud, the Falchion wielders, Byleth, Steve and Shulk as the final boss (maybe both standard Shulk and the Fiora alt since she also has a Monado)
It’s Homura and Hikari dude
@@PsychoChuckGreene Only in Japan
@@PsychoChuckGreene weeb
@@PsychoChuckGreene ratio
Or now you could have Sora with his keyblade!!
I like a lot of this, but I do have two major complaints: 1: a few routes end in a basic 1v1 which is kind of boring for a end boss. 2: The Mario route. 'I thought the original route was dull, so I replaced it with a reference to one game with predominantly 1v1s, half of which are on Omega stages.' This is Mario we're talking about here. A team up with Luigi representing the Mario and Luigi series, a 1v2 against Bowser and Junior on a stage representing Sunshine, team up with Rosalina to fight Giga or giant Bowser, a lot of this stuff writes itself, dude. Mario could have a TON of fun fights that double as references. Even the Super Mario RPG reference fight with the metal Dedede could have been a 3v1 with Peach and the Geno Mii for a potential fun and chaotic fight, and you wouldn't have to force the entire Classic to reference a single game which, while very good, is not a huge milestone for the series. A very awesome 'Mario Through the Ages' Classic would be: -A Mario and Luigi in Mario Bros versus some enemies representing that game. -A fight against a Giant K. Rool with Luigi and Peach. -That Metal Dedede revision I mentioned earlier. -A free for all with Link, Donkey Kong, Captain Falcon, Kirby, Pikachu, Ness and Fox (or just Link, Pikachu and Kirby if you want a more authentic Smash 64 with just four people) -A Master/Crazy hand fight with the people from that last fight (Yeah, a hand fight that isn't even a end boss!) -Finishing with a Rosalina team-up on Omega Galaxy against Bowser then Giga Bowser. It would even go like this, to be a great celebration of history: Legacy game-> NES -> SNES -> N64 Smash -> GC Smash(Melee) -> Wii, and represent the many people that Mario has seen over the years. TLDR: Smash is capable of a lot more than 1v1s, and you can definitely use that and the history of these characters, like the better Classic routes already do. There's no reason to limit yourself to that. It just shows how GOOD some of those better routes were.
"Mii Gunners wearing Shy Guy masks." Those are Mii *Brawlers* my guy.
Honestly, Smash could've used some more boss fights anyway. How awesome would it have been if at the end of Ryu's route he takes on Akuma? That would have been epic! For Terry's final battle, I would have had Kazuya taking the other Terry's place instead of Ken personally. But that could just be because I don't care for mirror matches.
Personally, I thought the last match was a reference to team Fatal Fury, with Ryu representing Joe Higashi, and Ken representing Andy Bogard. Maybe for Terry, each match could represent the various teams of Kof (Teams such as Ibaki, Psycho Soldier, Japan, Queen of Fighters, etc.)
Asking for more content with a game with 74+ fighters
@@paulakroy2635 Playable fighters and boss fights are two different things.
DLC can't be in classic modes because they won't let you fight against a character you didn't pay for.
@@AlejoGaming-hv6lm uh, what are you talking about?
I was sad that Piranha Plant came out too late to be added to Greninja's route. It's like a fleck of white paint on your black shirt. It would have fit so well!
I’d like to see Wolf’s route elaborated on a bit more. Just to reference all of the fighters who have been cut in the past. ROUND 1: Dr. Mario on Mushroomy Kingdom (references how he is the first character to return in the series and his unlocking stage on Smash 3DS) ROUND 2: Mewtwo, Lucas, and Roy on Pirate Ship (references their return to the series as DLC with Pirate Ship also returning as DLC in SSB4) ROUND 3: Ice Climbers on Summit ROUND 4: Pichu and Young Link on Great Bay ROUND 5: Squirtle and Ivysaur on Pokemon Stadium 2 The rest of the route can stay the same (Snake being the penultimate fight and Galleom being the boss)
When Ken is fighting the ARMS characters, you didn't add Ninjara in there.
for the Fire Emblem characters that fight hands: Roy - Ganondorf followed by Ridley, as nods to the 2 possible final bosses Robin - Robin and Purple Charizard, as nods to the final boss Corrin - King Dedede (dark costume), as a nod to Garon Chrom - fine as it is Byleth - White Charizard, Byleth and Bayonetta(?), as nods to the 3 possible final bosses
I dunno, maybe Corrin should have Rathalos instead of Dedede, because Anankos
King Dedede over Garon when Ganon and he are lookalike, ok.
@@DavidHutchinson0713 that's a great idea.
The Falco route should have ended with Marx since he's basically floating the entire fight
I had no idea that you could actualy mod the game to do this. That's amazing.
Yea the modding community for this game is pretty fantastic
Imagine a video where he fixes the “Fighter Spirits”
Actually, not a bad idea. Some of them do need it, like the Pokemon Trainers.
Lol I was just watching Odyssey Central's new video that did this too! Whaaaat!
I noticed the same thing
Me too lol
kinda fishy
Ooh! You're taking suggestions for more? Excellent! I have like a ton of these written up for fun. Here's one for Link: "A Champion Rises" Fight 1: 4 sheiks on the Great plateau Tower, to reference the sheikah monks on the Great plateau. The music is the Main theme of BOTW remix Fight 2: Fighting a giant Meta Ridley on Corneria with a Falco Ally, to reference Windblight Ganon and Revali. the music is Kass's theme. Fight 3: Fighting a giant Greninja on Great Bay with an inkling ally, to reference Waterblight Ganon and Mipha, the music is Molgera Battle. Fight 4: fighting a giant Incineroar on Norfair with a Donkey Kong ally, to reference Fireblight Ganon and Daruk, the music is the Death Mountain Remix. Fight 5: Fighting a giant Robin (lightning sword) on Gerudo Valley with a Zero Suit Samus Ally, to reference Thunderblight Ganon and Urbosa, the music is the gerudo Valley remix. Fight 6: Horde battle against several ROB's on Temple, to reference the guardians, Music is the BOTW Hyrule Castle theme. And the Boss is of course Ganon. Might make more suggestions if you're making a whole series on this or something.
Is this route a giant BOTW reference?
@@ClawsAndTeeth Wow, what gave it away?
@@DjoingDalton I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but in case you're not, everything. Though what tipped me off was the title.
@@ClawsAndTeeth OH yeah I was TOTALLY serious. I thought I hid the meaning of the route pretty well.
@@DjoingDalton It may not be the greatest reference, but you could maybe put in Omega Summit to reference Tabantha Frontier. Edit: Inklings die in water, you know.
I think the “fixed” Mario route is kinda dumb. From all the Mario games, you reference an old rpg from the snes.
I think it's pretty cool just because you aren't nostalgic for it doesn't mean that it's bad especially because this is a mod and not an official product
I agree it's probably the least good idea
@@NCozy I know it’s a mod. I just think If your trying to fix Mario’s classic mode route, I would think you could reference all the different types of Mario games. Yes, you can reference Mario RPG, but also the sports games, Mario kart, the 2D and 3D games. But that’s me. If you think it’s good, that alright.
@@NCozy But of all Mario games, RPG is nowhere near the most important in the series, and Nintendo rarely ever acknowledges. It's about on par with Link's classic mode being all references to Cadence of Hyrule
All of his "fixed" routes ideas are fixes but just themes Aaron personally liked better.
I tried making a few of my own alternate Classic Modes recently, though with the major difference that I adhere to DLC restrictions--everything in a route needs to come from the base game or be packaged with the character's Challenger Pack. I mainly focused on removing instances of themes repeating or being too similar, as well as giving routes to characters that didn't originally have them (the Miis and Trainer's individual Pokemon). My ideas for alternate themes: Ice Climbers - Gradually increasing altitude represented by the stages Falco - Opponents capable of flight Squirtle - Fighters with non-damaging push moves Ivysaur - Nature-themed opponents Charizard - Fighters with fire attacks Mii Brawler - Fighters who have participated in sports (originally characters who fight hand-to-hand, but Kazuya sniped that idea) Mii Swordfighter - Melee weapon-using fighters Mii Gunner - Fighters with projectiles Bowser Jr. - Protagonists from the Mario series (and DK/Yoshi subseries) Banjo & Kazooie - Characters who have starred in platform games
Just make a goddamn boss rush mode already. It's already in the game in story mode, just let me access it without 25 hours of grinding first.
YES, SAKURAI PLEASEEEE
For Cloud, some battles would be a team battle with Cloud and the Tifa Aerith, and Barret miis on a team. They could fight representations of the Turks (miis), just Cloud and Barret fight Guard Scorpion (red alt Ridley), and the entire party fights Jenova (red dark Samus alt). The Jenova fight would take place on Fountain of Dreams and the Aerith mii would be absent >:) Maybe some of the fights would be Cloud fighting solo, maybe against Rufus (white alt Joker) and maybe a fight against himself (advent children alt) to represent Cloud's struggle with identity. The last regular fight would be the whole party against Sephiroth, and then the boss fight would be solo Cloud against shirtless Sephiroth. Another is a Richter one based on SotN. First fight would be Slogra (green alt Sephiroth; the long sword represents Slogra's spear) and Gaibon (dark-blue alt Ridley). Another fight could be Richter and Green Kirby. Green Kirby represents the orb which Shaft used to control Richter. You would only need to defeat Kirby to win. Black alt Richter would be Doppelganger. For Olrox, the fight could begin with male Robin, and after he's defeated, a giant green alt Bowser would spawn. Black alt ZSS could be Succubus. Final regular battle would be Galamoth (either gold alt Kazuya or giant Pikachu). Boss fight would obviously be Dracula. I'm not saying that these ideas are better than what's already in the game, but I still think they'd be pretty cool
I definitely think the Mii Fighters deserve a Classic Mode route each. They got done dirty in the base game. Mii Brawler's route could have him facing off against multiple close combat fighters like Mario and Ryu, before having a boss fight with Master Hand and Crazy Hand, which makes sense since they are a pair of hands. Mii Swordfighter's route has him going up against several fighters with swords, like Link and Shulk, and it ends with a boss fight against Beast Ganon, since he has a pair of swords. Mii Gunner's route has them doing battle with fighters who mainly use projectiles in their moveset, like Samus or Snake, and their boss fight is against Galleom, who is a giant tank. But one thing I want to add that I feel could be interesting is that after each boss battle, the Mii Fighter the player is using will fight the other two; for example, playing as Mii Gunner will mean you fight against Mii Brawler and Swordfighter at the same time.
I really think that the fire emblems could use a better route than “Here’s a bunch of swordies!” Specifically Byleth, since he’s DLC and it felt kind of like a cop-out choice.
We need more bosses for smash
Here are some final boss change ideas: - Peach and Dr. Mario fight Giga Bowser, because regular Mario already fights Giga Bowser, and it fits the title for Peach's Classic Mode route. - Sheik fights Ganon, because every other Zelda series fighter fights Ganon except for Ganondorf himself. - Sonic fights Galleom, because of his history of battling robots. - Olimar, Villager, and Steve fight Rathalos, because Monster Hunter involves exploring an open world while collecting tools and building weapons, similar to Pikmin, Animal Crossing, and Minecraft. - Ness and Lucas fight Marx, because he brings a very eerie vibe similar to most bosses in the EarthBound/Mother series.
Also here's one more, an obvious one: GIVING CAPTAIN FALCON A CLASSIC ROUTE TO REFERENCE RACING GAMES.
So that would be, like Mario Kart (a couple stage options plus Bananas, Lightning, Shells etc.) Kirby Air Ride (just flood the stage with Warp Stars and Dragoons and play Legendary Air Ride) Sonic R (uh) Diddy Kong Racing (an excuse to include Banjo really) ...and what else
@@axelvoss9653 Well, for one, there could be two for Mario Kart, one for the Figure-8 Circuit, and one for Mario Circuit. Also, F-Zero...
This is where Cloud's obscure route should have gone! Why was HE the one to have the vehicle themed fights?
@@DjoingDalton Final Fantasy had a racing game. Chocobo racing I think...
I've got an idea for G&W's route called "Portable Power", allowing G&W to represent Nintendo's long history with portable gaming, instead of just being the old man of Smash. The first fight is a Multi-Man against G&W on Flat Zone X. The second fight is Daisy, Kirby, and Pokémon Trainer on Dream Land GB. The third fight is Roy, Toon Link, and Lucas on WarioWare, Inc. The fourth fight is Lucario and ROB on PictoChat 2. Side note on this one: Lucario is the only fighter in Smash to debut on the DS, so I included ROB here because they appear in Mario Kart DS. The fifth fight is Dark Pit, Robin, and Isabelle on Find Mii. The sixth fight is Min Min, Pyra/Mythra, and Byleth on Great Plateau Tower. If the player does not have these DLC, then the fight will be Mii Brawler with the Spring Man costume, Mario (Wedding Alt), and Link respectively. The boss fight is against Master Hand.
Opinion: Miis should have customizable routes. Like, you can give the route a name, design each fight, select any bosses, maybe even move the bonus game, and use any pictures from the game you have taken and use it as the end-credits art. These could also be possibly downloaded alongside miis, though I can see how that may cause some issues with content not unlike the rest of shared content's issues. But imagine things like Sans gets the "Should be burning in hell." route where you fight characters who have committed atrocities, such as Olimar (kidnapping and mass murdering pikmin) and Samus (working with the federation to commit the xenocide of the metroid species). Disclaimer, I haven't played Pikmin nor Metroid, so sorry if I am wrong about the acts committed in those games. Or Shrek, because we all know people would do Shrek, could have "GET OUT OF MY SWAMP" where you battle magical beings in swamp-like areas. Shrek's could also end off with a hoard battle against Farquaad and his knights. Vault Boy might have one about fighting "mutants" and maybe people with arsenals, like Snake and King K. Rool, ending off with Giga Bowser. (I also haven't played Fallout, so sorry if this does not like up at all.) Cuphead could have one for characters who are inherrantly somewhat demonic, like Dark Pit, Bayonetta, and Sephiroth, ending off with Marx.
When you do part 2, Lucas should be one of em Lucas's Classic route felt really generic when compared to Ness's route, which is really good and brings proper call back to EarthBound (even with the Hands since the EarthBound series is known for its weird enemies) Lucas's Classic route is called "A Tragic Story", the route focuses on characters who have went through an extremely tragic life in their respective games, a nod to Lucas's own tragic life in Mother 3. The opponents are: Round 1 - Samus & Zero Suit Samus in Brinstar, music is "Theme of Samus Aran, Space Warrior" (Samus appears first and upon defeating her, ZSS comes in since they're really are just the same person) Round 2 - Kazuya & Mii Brawler in his Heihachi Outfit in Mishima Dojo, music is either "Desperate Struggle" or "Aloneness" (it's a free for all since Kazuya deeply hates Heihachi for everything) Round 3 - Cloud & Sephiroth in Northern Cave, music is "Aerith's Theme" (like with Kazuya & Heihachi, it's a free for all since Cloud and Sephiroth are the hero and villain, and Sephiroth really likes to ruin Cloud so much) Round 4 - Young Link in Great Bay, music is "Termina Field" (can be the original or remix version) Round 5 - Lucina in Arena Ferox, music is "Duty (Ablaze)" Round 6 - 2 Corrins (one male and one female) in Castle Siege, music is "Lost in Thoughts All Alone (Original) Final Round - Lucas in his Claus outfit & Mii Gunner in his black color Standard Outfit wearing a Bionic Helmet wielding a Beam Sword, the Mii Gunner's specials are: Charge Blast, Flame Pillar, Arm Rocket, and Absorbing Vortex. The stage is set in omega form Norfair with the music playing "Mother 3 Love Theme". The "Claus" Lucas fights first and then upon being defeated, the Mii Gunner will appear, a reference to the Masked Man. Basically this is a nod to the final battle of Mother 3.
I think that instead of sephiroth having a boss rush for his route I think it should just be a entirely seperate mode where anybody can take on the boss rush
I really love Ryu’s route where his opponents represent other Street Fighter characters. Maybe do something like that for Kazuya and Tekken
Marx and Giga Bowser need to be used more in classic mode if you asked me.
Little Mac’s normal route is very generic, so I changed it to reference the other boxers from the Punch-Out series. (Note: I used the Punch-Out spirit battles for some inspiration) Round 1: White Luigi to represent Glass Joe, and Green Mario to represent Von Kaiser Round 2: Ryu to represent Piston Hondo Round 3: Incineroar to represent Great Tiger, and Ken to represent Don Flamenco Round 4: Red Wario to represent Soda Popinski Round 5: Pink King K. Rool to represent King Hippo Round 6: Giant Yellow Little Mac to represent Mr. Sandman Round 7: Donkey Kong to reference the boss battle against DK in Punch-Out (Wii)
Junior's Classic Route could be about a lot of things, so I'll just list a few here. - "Defenseless Without Help": Fights characters who do not fight empty-headed and use outside objects defend themselves, as they are much weaker without them, referencing how Junior is nearly defenseless without his Clown Car. He'd fight characters with swords and armor, (Link and Samus, mainly), culminating in a 1v2 against Mario and Peach, as while Peach can fight for herself, in Smash, she usually relies on Mario to defend her. - "I Wanna Fight That Mario, Again!" Junior fights many main protagonists from other series, at the stages progress from stages with lava to more peaceful grasslands, implying that Junior is traveling from his father's kingdom to the peaceful Mushroom Kingdom. This, of course, would culminate with a fight with Mario. - "A Violate Playdate". Plays on stages with childlike themes, such as Living Room, and. Junior faces child and adolescent characters, (Ness, Lucas, Pokémon Trainer, etc) seemingly increasing in age with each fight, with the penultimate match being against Little Mac, who is 17. The final match is against Shulk, who is the youngest adult in the smash roster.
How About " Video Game Biggest Faces" where Mario Fights the Most popular and iconic characters in Smash. He would go up against Link,Pikachu,PAC-MAN,Cloud,Steve,Mega Man, And the final fight against Sonic.
Almost all of the fights were 2v1, and trying to get level 9 while fighting a 2v1 is hell for anyone who isn't your main, maybe less of that next time
we need more videos like this!
agreed
You know a classic mode route that I’m surprised isn’t in the game? A route about fighting the third parties! It’s basically a no-brainer and yet none of the third parties have routes based around fighting the third parties. It could even be called “Special guests” or something
If Crash is the final fighter I could see it for him.
Lucario being introduced as the first character with a comeback mechanic I'm surprised they didn't make his route characters with comeback mechanics like Sephiroth Cloud Little Mac Terry Etc.
Because half of those characters are DLC, without DLC I don't think there are enough characters to do that.
@@uralink3485 exactly with DLC you can do that
@@crazydiamond7477 yeah but you said you are surprised they didn't do that, how are they gonna make something that only works with DLC characters that weren't even announced yet? Unless by "they" you were talking about Aaronitmar.
I would love to see a part two. I think changing Steve’s final boss from just a giant Ridley to Rathalos would be a good change, not big but a good change.
Luckily, I've already made a document of Classic Mode boss rounds against the hands that I would change up. Ness: Mewtwo on Find Mii Omega, followed by Crazy Hand. Now wait, before you start an angry mob for suggesting one hand, let me explain. Ness's mode is all about going through Earthbound in reverse, so fighting Mewtwo on a mountain brings it back to before the beginning, with the end of Beginnings. As for Crazy Hand, Giegue ends up turning into Giygas, a being so destructive, he's destroyed his own mind. Crazy Hand is a destructive being, and "crazy" is in the name, so it's kinda fitting. Peach: Giga Bowser. They both made their debut in Melee, and Peach is the main target of regular Bowser, so... Roy: Ganon. Ganon has those huge swords, and Roy's route is all about swords. Diddy Kong: Dracula, but with Simon as an NPC ally. Diddy Kong's route is all about teaming up with a hero to take on a villain. Bowser and Ganondorf were already fought, and Kirby was already an ally, so... Sonic: Galleom. To evoke Eggman's robots. Olimar: Marx. Olimar's route is all about space explorers, and Marx went to Nova through space. Little Mac: Giga Bowser. Little Mac is not an air fighter, so why fight a boss that flies? I know the hands are hands, but let's go for an all-physical boss. Greninja: Ridley or Corrin followed by Rathalos. Greninja's route is all about Pokemon types, so let's make the finale reference Dragon-types. Also, I'd mod Ivysaur's round so Ivysaur is assisted by Olimar, Dark Samus, or Piranha Plant, to evoke the Grass-type or the Poison-type. Bowser Jr./The Koopalings: Metal Mario. Like father like son.
Ridley could have a route called "Working My Way Up" or something, where he fights characters that had a small presence in the series via costumes or Assist Trophies, before making the main roster, like Daisy, Dark Samus and Little Mac. And Mario or Kirby could have a Subspace Emissary-inspired route, starting with their fight against each other and leading up to Master Hand.
Byleth should have one based on them being a teacher. Have them fight all the child characters who should be in school like the Earthbound duo or Young Link
Also characters like Pit because he never learned to read or Pokémon Trainer because they are like 10 years old
*Brawl Monitor*
Let's not forget the pokemon trainer; using Squirtle, Charizard and Pikachu (instead of Ivysaur) to represent the three houses.
Nothing personal but I will never download raid shadow legends and no one will ever convince me to do so
The Geno fight is made even better by the fact that his spirit battle also takes place on the Mario Galaxy stage.
I feel that in Mario's route, he should have gotten the party members as his allies. Kinda like how DK defeats Diddy and then they team up. It also makes more sense because they are a party
Change rob’s classic mode to be referencing 80s toys and make the route call Buy me Round 1 fighter: ludwig stage: moray tower song: 25m and this is a reference to hot wheels Round 2 fighter: mii sword fighter with the cybernetic suit stage: Frigate Orpheon song: dwelling of doom and this is a reference to Star Wars Round 3 fighter: rob with the red alt stage: mementos song: flat zone 2 and this is a reference to the virtual boy and also you’re on a team up with duck hunt and Mario cause they are also old retro characters and it’s a reference to the super Mario bros and duck hunt mix game where you want to play super Mario bros or duck hunt Round 4 fighter: dr Mario with random alts stage: balloon fight song: mute city and you’re on a team up with wario and that’s a reference to wario in dr Mario 64 Round 5 fighter: Mario link and samus stage: Mushroom Kingdom since they are classic games why not put them in the route song: ground theme - super Mario bros Round 6 fighter: mr game and watch with the lime alt stage: Dream Land GB it’s a reference to the game boy song: no music do that like they did with duck hunt in pac man’s classic mode route Final round boss: Dracula music: vampire killer (new remix) and you’re on a team up with Simon and also castle vania is old too so why not have that in
I feel like instead of two Zelda battles back to back for Banjos route, the one to rep OoT could be swapped to Pokemon Trainer and Pikachu to represent Pokemon Stadium and Hey You! Pikachu. Otherwise super cool dude!!
I would love a Part 2 to this. Seeing those changes actually modded in there looks amazing! And after having gone through most of the routes, it was clear that some routes were less exciting. Seeing how those all could be improved would be really cool, modded or not. As for changes, personally, I actually just would've liked it if Sakurai had classic routes for Mii characters as well. They appear in plenty of games: - The Brawler could be representing Wii Sports; bowling is heavy characters, baseball is characters that use staffs, boxing is an obvious one, and then you have Wii Sports Resorts with swordplay and archery. The items there could've been sports-related items like the bat, the baseball, the soccer ball, etcetera. - The Swordfighter could be representing Miitopia and Find Mii, with bosses like a giant monkey, the imp, and a Dark Lord, as well as characters like the three elf sisters and the genie. Items like food would be very fitting. - And the Gunner could represent Wii Party. There's Party Phil, but there's minigames with hammers, with planes, UFOs, cowboys, pirates, etcetera. I really love playing as the Mii Characters, and I love the Mii additions to Smash. It would've been greater if they had their own classic routes, because they did have them back in Smash 4, even if it weren't original ones at that time.
These were all so good! I think you should definitely do another part! :D
As much as I like Sora's Classic Mode route in the final version, I can think of a better one. I call it: *A Smashing Finale* Basically it's akin to Piranha Plant's Classic Mode route, but you fight against all the DLC characters in the order that they we're revealed. Route 1: Piranha Plant and Joker (Mementos) Route 2: Hero and Banjo-Kazooie (Spiral Mountain) Route 3: Terry and Byleth (King of Fighters Stadium) Route 4: Min Min and Steve (Minecraft World) Route 5: Sephiroth (Northern Cave; Stamina Battle) Penultimate Route: Pyra/Mythra (Cloud Sea of Alrest) FINAL ROUTE: Kazuya (Mishima Dojo, Stamina Battle, Omega Form)
Make sense cause he is the final character
An idea for Joker’s classic mode would be having all the fights reference the different palace rulers.
So maybe: Captain falcon Sephiroth Wario Inkling Ganondorf Idk who shido would be
@@ballisticboo7808 Actually, I feel like Kamoshida is more of a Snake, not a Captain Falcon.
@@Moon-nk3co Kamoshida's theme is lust so frankly the best choices would be either Bayonetta or the Travis Touchdown Mii.
@@ballisticboo7808 Why would Inkling be wrath? Kazyua is an _infinitely_ better fit. Also Pac-Man for gluttony, obviously. As much as Wario fits the bill, eating is Pac-Man's _entire thing._ As for pride, Captain Falcon, because Bayonetta far better fits for lust... Also you forgot Sloth, probably Incineroar for being the slowest fighter. Also for the Yaldabaoth and Satanael who both represent every sin, Travis Touchdown Mii and Joker. You could probably also throw in the Skull Kid Mii to the boss fight to represent sorrow.
@@mattwo7 what
I think you could change Ganondorf's classic mode. here is my idea Classic mode name: A Heros Darkside The first battle: against Mario in his fourth outfit and Luigi in his sixth outfit, Bowser will be on your team The second battle: against Donkey Kong in his second outfit and Diddy Kong in his seventh outfit, King K. Rool will be on your team The third battle: against Fox in his second outfit and Falco in his sixth outfit, Wolf will be on your team The fourth battle: against Pit in his sixth outfit and Palutena in her seventh outfit, Dark Pit will be on your team The fifth battle: against Lucario in his fourth outfit and Incineroar in his seventh outfit, Mewtwo will be on your team The sixth battle: against Samus in her eighth outfit and ZSS in her fourth outfit, Ridley will be on your team For the boss fight, you will fight all 3 Links (Link, Young Link, Toon Link) in their dark alternate costumes this will be a stamina battle you will have 100 hp all the links will have 70 hp you will also have Bowser and Ridley on your team but they only have 20 hp after beating all of the Links you finish the classic mode Here is the stage list Round 1: Mushroom Kingdom Omega Round 2: Kongo Falls Battlefeild Round 3: Lylat Cruise Omega Round 4: Palutena's Temple Battlefeild Round 5: Pokémon Stadium Regular Round 6: Brinstar Depths Omega Boss / Final Round: Bridge Of Eldin Regular
To me I feel like some modes could've been swapped or switched around. For example; DDD could've Kirby's gorment feast mode, Peach could've the Royal rumble and Kirby's mode could've been about characters that are filled cuteness such as Pichu, Isabelle Yoshi; ending off with a fight against a giant dark Kirby and then a giant dark coloured robin or ganondolf after referencing to the nightmare wizard.
Yeah, do a part 2!
Have Pyra and Mythra classic mode to be a JRPG History
Hmm, that would be interesting. Let's see: Fight 1: All 4 Dragon Quest Heroes Fight 2: Ness and Lucas Fight 3: Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, and Pokémon Trainer Fight 4: Mario, Peach, Bowser, and Geno Mii Fight 5: Cloud and Sephiroth Fight 6: Robin, Chrom, and Lucina Boss Fight: Metal Face on Guar Plains with Shulk as an ally.
@@Compucles DLCs aren't allowed so remove the Heros, Geno costume and Sephiroth and think of someone else as fillers for Hero.
I’d DEFINITELY love to see a part 2!
I’d change Byleth’s route from being a bunch of legacy fights to referencing the different houses of the game as the legacy run only really makes sense for Lucina as Byleth never touches on the legacy of the other FE characters. It would be Round 1: Giant Simon with Ike as an ally. This references the tutorial map of the game and Ike alludes to Jeralt, the father of the player character as both are mercenaries. Round 2: A hoard battle of 6 dark pits before ending on a Meta Knight with the Dark Meta Knight skin. This references chapter 5 of 3 Houses where you need to fight a bunch of bandits(mostly archers) led by a characters scarred on his face. You’ll be partnered with a Dimitri skinned Byleth as the main boss is the brother of one of the blue lions and suggest you’re playing the Blue Lion route. Round 3: 2 Byleths with the Edelgard and Dimitri colors, a Robin, and a ganondorf with Claude skin Byleth as an ally. This references the mock battle/battle of the eagle and lion. This will be a team battle with each group trying to win over each other. This one assumes the golden deer route as well with Claude as your partner Round 4: A Lucina who upon defeat will lead into a giant Robin with Edelgard Byleth as an ally. This references chapter 10 where you fight the murders of an important character. Your pairing with Edelgard skin Byleth also references that you’re playing Black Eagles Then the final 3 rounds will reference the 3 boss maps of each respected class. Round 5: Beast King Ganon with Dimitri skin Byleth as an ally. This refers to the final boss the Blue Lions take on in Hegemon Edelgard who has transformed into a giant beast. Round 6: hoard battle of a bunch of fire emblem characters with Giant Marth as the last one with Claude skin Byleth as your ally. This references the final map for the golden deer as the Marth would allude to its final boss nemesis, a bandit turned corrupt and killed the goddess. Robin would also work but I really don’t wanna repeat final characters. The final round would be first against Palutena and then shift into a fight again Rathelos with Edelgard skin Byleth as an ally. This references the black eagles final boss in the form of the immaculate one who is Rhea’s alternate form and resembles Palutena if you compare.
7:05: Why did you exclude Kirby & King Dedede?! You should've included them to be based on Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards!
Perhaps it's because Dedede wasn't actually the villain of that one.
@@ClawsAndTeeth Neither are Bomberman or Goemon.
@@jamiegameplaythrough9485 Touché. In that case, I don't know.
@@ClawsAndTeeth By the way, if Sephiroth was never in Smash & Geno was a proper fighter, his Classic Mode battles should be (1) Giga Bowser for Bowser, (2) Galleom for Yaridovich, (3) Marx for Punchinello, (4) Rathalos for Czar Dragon, (5) Ganon for Exor I guess, (6) Dracula for Culex & (7) Master & Crazy Hands for Smithy I suppose.
@@jamiegameplaythrough9485 Literally a switched up boss rush.
When ur main doesn’t have a classic mode
I loved the hero’s boss fight by referencing the evil sorcerer who turns into a purple dragon. I think that we don’t need changes. It’s just that cool!
I think an interesting change could be Pyra/Mythra's classic mode ending. The boss could be changed to either Shulk, as a reference to their reveal trailer, or Ganon to reference the final battle with Malos and Aion, considering both Malos and Ganondorf have similar dark effects and Aion is a dual welder.
I had this idea for a Classic Mode where it’d be the same structure as 1P game in Smash 64 but you could customize it by having the characters changed up along with difficulty. Also had Geno got into Smash, I think a Classic Mode where he fought characters that nobody in the U.S. asked for like Byleth or Corrin would work
Geno's classic mode could have been what he gave to Mario in this video, just full of SMRPG references.
I wish you did every reference in smash ultimate (fighter pass 2) For the thumbnail make kazuya throw Steve
but the last dlc isnt out yet
@@dubscentral I know but I want him to do that when the last dlc releases
oh ok
@@dubscentral or maybe he wel, make it was shorts
@@diegoleonelreyes i think not son
A Character that should also get a change in their Classic is Roy or Corrin where their Classic (called "Former Intruders") has them fight the DLC characters in Sm4sh in order of Announcement in the game
Boss Fights I wanted to change: Fox - Instead of Master Hand, he fights both hands on Venom Omega (reference to Andross) Peach - Change boss from Master Hand to Giga Bowser Ike - Change boss from Master Hand to Dracula (to follow with the Darkness theme - I like the Black Knight fight though) Roy - Change boss from Master Hand to Ganon (Hello? He has two swords!!!) Mr. Game & Watch - Change boss from Master Hand to Dracula (Why does PAC-MAN get Dracula and not G&W?) Meta-Knight - Change boss from Master Hand to Marx (same reason as you) King Dedede - Change boss from Master Hand to Giga Bowser (the king of kings!) Isabelle - The hands are fought on Smashville Omega Shulk - Change boss from Master Hand to Galleom (same reason as you) Cloud - Change boss from Master Hand to Galleom (Galleom tranforms into a vehicle in Subspace Emissary) Byleth - Change boss from the Hands to Ganon (Maybe as a reference to the final boss of Claude's route?)
Did you fix it?
Watch and see!
3:02 “fights mechanical creatures though his entire game” haha that’s cute
Sshhhh
Even in the early parts of the game, he also fights a lot of wildlife and biological monsters.
I don't have any ideas I can offer, but I would LOVE to see a Part 2 and maybe 3. Especially when it comes to how you can add or update routes to accommodate the Final DLC Fighter.
Here’s what Falco’s classic mode really should have been: Fighting against the best characters in Melee and only fighting on tournament legal stages. Here’s my list: 1: Icies on Dream Land 2: Peach on Fountain Of Dreams 3: Sheik on Yoshi’s Story 4: Marth on Battlefield 5: Jigglypuff on Pokemon Stadium 6: Fox on Final Destination Boss: Whatever
Boss should be Giga Bowser because he was the Boss of Melee's adventure mode. Or the boss could be FOX ONLY NO ITEMS FINAL DESTINATION!
@@Fi___ OMG I was thinking the same thing!
Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Why did you Rick roll me-
bruh
@@SpooderJuice cuz he's Rick
In Greninja's classic mode route, he fights against Pokemon and other fighters of one type. One thing I've always found strange was in the Grass type battle, you only fought against only Ivysaur and didn't add Olimar or Pirahna Plant. I mean I understand Plant being a DLC fighter and all but it just looked wierd seeing Ivysaur all by himself without Olimar who controls half plant half animal beings.
Here's my ideas: Daisy could have the final boss of her route be Peach, while Peach's current spot could be swapped with the Edlegard-esque Byleth, Zelda's route could be about fighting magic users while her final boss being Ganon remains, Shiek needs their final boss changed to Galleum, Dr. Mario could have his first fight be against Peach and his final boss could be the three strong Warios, for Lucina you can have Byleth be her first fight and Marth be her boss since she's fighting the FE heroes in chronological order (and you can even add in a giant Black Knight and other applicable Miis to the mode), have the Ganondorf fight swapped out for Majora and then have the final boss fight be a two-parter of Ganondorf into Ganon, swap out the Hands for Ganon on Roy's route as the route is all about swords and Ganon has swords and MAYBE add the smaller Links with Kirby plus Byleth and Sephiroth?, Pit and Palutenna both need Ganon as their final boss as he's the DEMON KING instead of the Hands, Wario needs GigaBowser for his final boss, add Pichu and have a strong Mewtwo be the only final boss instead of having him be the precursor to hands, Ganon or Gigabowser should be DeDeDe's final boss instead of the Hands, Marx should be Villager's final boss to continue his current theme of "underestimating," Wii Fit Trainer's final boss should be GigaBowser or Marx as they are the roundest bosses, for Greninja you can have Ridley and Yoshi for Dragon-Type battle instead of the hands, have Peach and Mario be the final battle for Bowser Jr. and have their spot be taken by Byleth or Robin, have two Corrins be the final bosses for Corrin's route with one being white and one being black and the entire thing being a free-for-all, Samus and Zero-Suit Samus should be Ridley's final bosses with their fights being split between Wolf (since he's not in the StarFox round) and Kirby (since he's not with Meta Knight), Isabelle can have a fight against the four female versions of Villager as her final boss and have Byleth take that spot plus add the missing Dark Samus and Spiky-eared Pichu as well, have Incineroar fight Ken and the newcomers of Kazuya and Terry (plus Little Mac since he's MIA for some reason), bump the House Leader fight to the final fight and have the color-variations of the others be put in as the final boss (Ike's Sigurd outfit, for example)