Who will be faster? A former world champion professional motocross racer riding an 85cc 2 Stroke kids bike, or an amateur weekend warrior dirt bike enthusiast riding a full size, super powerful 450cc 4 Stroke race machine? It's time to find out! We are aiming to prove that it's not about the bike, it's about the rider. But can our pro get the job done? It'll be a tough task for sure.....Get ready for what we think is the best moto video we've ever made!
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A huge thank you goes to everyone that helped make this video possible!
Thanks to Mark Rudd and the guys at Gear4 Motorcycles who loaned us the GasGas MC450 for the day. Gear4 are a KTM, Husqvarna, GasGas and Honda dealership in Market Deeping Lincolnshire. Check them out here - gear4motorcycles.co.uk/
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Worked at a 7 line dealership for years. We call 85's. 65's and 50's grown man killers, lol. Those things rock...
Soooooo Truuuuuuu!!! The only bike that ever ran out from under me and dumped me onto my knees one day was a Yamaha 125 MX when it came onto the pipe, caught a little traction, and launched itself like a rocket right out from under me. My 360 and 500 could never do that.
Yeah my son's kx100 was insane
I own an 01 jr80 2t. That thing is a beast.
I worked at a shop in the late 90s. A kx65 threw me on my ass and humbled me 🤣
I’m 59yrs old now and have been craving a YZ85LW since they came out! I’m 5’11 and dropped my weight from 230lbs down to 138lbs just so I can race one. Great video at @999lazer I would love to see more videos like this!👍🏁🤠
I'm 55 and picked up 2 RM85'S about year and a half ago. Both basket cases. Rebuilt all that I could short of cosmetics which I'm not worried with. I say get yourself an 85cc of choice and enjoy. Just remember that a kids toy can booger us old timers up.
That’s a big weight drop, congrats!
Dude I’m 5’11 and I’m 160lbs and I’m also 17 and I’m pretty skinny, I have some muscle and definition but I’m still pretty skinny if you’re 138lbs at 5’11 dude you might needa gain just lil more
Poor mans Porsche
That's awesome!!!!
I think the inner boy in all of us was smiling the whole time during that race so cool
so true, thanks for watchng :)
100% ❤❤❤
Definitely
Seeing all these comments of old guys on 85s make me love my little kx112 more. Thank you.
Steve Clark on the last few corners, wow!
he was absolutely on fire :)
Best sound ever is a 2 stroke singing
And the worst ever sound is a 2 stroke powering past you
I'm 55 and have my RM85 KIDS toy. It's a hoot. That was an adrenaline rush for those guys . You all hit it out of the park on this one.
Cheers Eric, glad you enjoyed it :)
The 85cc champion got abit of weight on him for a pro motocross rider. There's hope for us all then 😂😂 great video
He won the championship almost 20 years ago... Herp a derp
The champ likes doughnuts 😂😂
That's exactly what I was thinking,! yay!
@@daviddavidson4496he won another 10 years ago and is still an active pro mxer
Yeah, I feel bad for that motor 😂
I'm almost 50, I have a yz85 in the garage. Yes it's mine and they're awesome little bikes. What a fun race to watch
great little bike, thanks for watching :)
I'm 51 light and own a Cr85 big wheel , take it trail riding in Australian mountains and love it . The closest thing you can get to a huge suspension mountain bike , light but with all that awesomeness of an obnoxiously loud 2 Stroke echoing through the mountains. Great fun . Just don't ask about the ludicrously steep mountain climbs , the attacking challenge is fun but compared to a four stroke -we'll leave that one alone 😁 I do believe that riding these makes you a better attacking 4 stroke rider .🇦🇺
Years ago I bought a CR85r, still have it and love it. My 450 is mental but the 85 is like riding a BMX bike so is super fun
I bought a 2003 CR85 RB years ago , with a crook hip wanting something small and light , as close to a mountain bike as possible for trial/enduro riding . Absolutely loved this thing after dialing in the suspension and a few tweaks for power. Hill climbs were an obvious downfall , but tight cornering , rocky trails and nimble handling was a blast . There's something about ringing the neck out of a noisy 2 Stroke to keep up with the big boys that makes it fun . Unless your racing that's what it's all about 😁 diiiing , ding ding ding ding 🇦🇺
Huge difference between steve and Smith in corner speed. Steve was absolute insane in the last corners. Pretty good stuff.
Thanks for watching:)
Brits are so fucking funny. Bro called him a “rascal” when he passed him lol
He's controlling his language as its usually little kids zapping past him on the 85, Little shits are quuck and have no fear !!😂
49 years old. Back on a dirt bike again after 30 years.Went for a 2022 TC85 big wheel to follow my son around the gardens on and its awesome. Really got the bug again from riding the 85. Tempted to get a 250 4 stroke for some track action but will keep the 85 for pure fun. Different class from the 80s i grew up with.
Buy yourself a 125/150. Way more fun than a 4-Puke!
@@straighttimestirrups yeah i get that and i agree to certain point but my Husky gives me plenty of 2 stroke fun already. im quite light so it pulls me around fine. Tempted to 105 it on the next rebuild. i fancy a new 250 just to try out the latest tech and see if its an easier ride then a 125 would be.
Nothing takes more skill to ride than an 85. If you can handle that thing, you could get big air on any bike.
Yz125x
That was the best dirtbick race ive seen in a while 👍
The dude on the 85 was so eager he was kicking along the 85 to give it more speed. He must have a brain that makes everything around him go in slow motion beeing able to almost run alongside the bike in each corner so he could get the W. awesome job
I was thinking the same thing. Dude was pushing the bike with his leg rather than just putting it out there lol. I wish I could corner like that.
25 hp from an 85cc is wild. Nearly 300 hp per liter.
It's not the plane, it's the pilot.
Very true! Thanks for watching dude :-D
Yup
There’s just something about being able to push a smaller cc bike to its absolute limit! It makes ya feel like a bona fide master 💪 lol. And then you jump of a YZilla and get humbled real quick 😂! Thank you Max Sean and Steve! This video was super FUN!!! 🤩
That was the most exhilarating experience I've ever had from a youtube video so thankyou!
Thanks for watching Callum:)
I’m a grown man and I love riding the 80cc 2 strokes. I can’t believe their made for kids. Running flat out they feel faster than my 250 and produce way more smiles per hour.
Mate , unless your racing , that's what it's all about - putting a smile on your face . For their size the little bastards fly ! And make a bucket load of awesome noise . It's funny , when your a kid 85s are like "yea whatever" but it when your an adult you realise how quick they really are !
That was so fun to watch boys! The editing was on point along with everything else. Great idea and I felt giddy watching the gap close. Thanks for the hard work everyone.
Thanks so much!!
I envy kids, they get to race two strokes like its 1999!
so true :) thanks for watching
Except for aids 1999 was bad for dirtbikes. No one made good carbs
@@nesc39 Yeah but at least everybody was still on a smoker then. Except that one dude with his 400 cheaterbike, lol
I did… it’s was amazing, and I rode a yz85, the smell of two stroke and bacon sandwiches at the weekend
Aah, the sound of a small 2 stroke engine, brings back memories from the late 90’s and early 00’s when i competed with my kx80😊
awesome,thanks for watching:)
I worked at a Yamaha in the early 70s, I purchased a YZ80 b, brand new in 1975 for 528 dollers, what a great little motercycle, after that I would go back and buy parts and they hired me went all the way up to a YZ 125 or YZ250 and an IT 465, now that's a MOTORCYCLE
I've owned a bunch of it's started on 175 J. In my 30s I put an old 70s IT 250 engine in a later model RM 125 barley fitted used a DT175 expansion chamber and had to cut the frame and make a box section to get the exhaust through as they came through the centre on old bikes had the twin spring rear end. Man it was a hoot to ride, looked like something out of a Mad Max movie. People wouldn't think much of it out riding until they seen it get up and boogie especially with that sixth gear. 😂
Those IT 465s were an absolute vicious weapon (a handful but a weapon) and highly collectable now. Hang onto that one 👍
We had a big race at our local track. Kevin Windham was still riding a 85. Mark Barnett showed up on a CR250. Kevin ran laps within a second of Mark.
Back in Jr High school, my buddy got a brand New 1993' KX80! That Thing was an official ripper! I had a Yamaha Blaster, a Honda Trail 70, and a 5hp gocart.. Nothing could prepare me for the Powerband of that KX! I whiskey throttled it on more than one occasion! 😂 Since then I've had many 125's, a couple 250's and even a 95' CR500! NOTHING I have had or even ridden had a Powerband like that little KX80! THEY were fast back then, I can't imagine how much fun they are to ride Now?! 😂
What a great GREAT video !!!!! My daughter has a 2001 CR80 honda and it is way way too fast for 2 wheels !!!! I have crashed it a couple times over the years and am not allowed to ride it anymore lol - this is the greatest most fun video I ever watched !!! I was jumping from my chair pulling for the screaming YZ !!!! Congrats to both riders giving it their all and for fun - even makes it that much better !!!!! Thank you 999laz for all you share with our great sport !!!! Now everyone fire up the 2 strokes !!!!
Thanks Mike:)
Very entertaining Video, I like the little shorter length as well!! Thanks Max, keep them coming!
That was great racing, it reminded me of racing my Aprilia AF1 125 38bhp against 500 4 strokes, but It never took me 4 laps to get in front even when I started at the back of the grid and that thing was faster than my old RD350 YPVS, I wish I could still race but I broke my back in 2001 but still raced the 125 until 2003, Brands Hatch was my near to home circuit that I raced on with that and my V twin SV650 MK1, Ducati 750 sport and 2003 Aprilia Mille RSV, being a lightweight on a lightweight 125 was great fun
Effin' awesome video! Yea Yamaha!
That was fun to watch.It was interesting to watch the different lines taken by Sean and Steve ie 2 stroke lines in the corners verses the 4 stroke lines,thanks for the upload guys keep em coming
Cheers, the lads were on fire, it was such a fun one to make
What a race! 10/10 fpv pilot!!!
Back in the 80's we, my brother and I kicked arse in the open class on our 125's, yes it's all the rider, not the bike.
Max, 1 word...... Epic! Your content gets better and better and i find myself eagerly awaiting your next video! Thank you
Thanks Luke:)
Fantastic video! Sure do miss that 2 stroke sound! Was a pretty neat race
Wow ❤ it very much always watching 999lazer thnx max.
@999lazer Awesome video guys, happy to help out and was amazing to see Steve attacking those corners! It was a great race 👊✊💨
Cheers Guys, Thanks for the loan, the GasGas was awesome. Sean has some photos from the day to give you :)
Keep em coming 👍 Would like to see some tests on enduro bikes
That was cool! Love the sound of a 2-stroke at full song. But I'm about as interested in the specs on the drone used. The drone footage was the best part.
This is such a great channel. Great content as ever. One quick point though, I raced a Suzuki RM80 in 1979 and that bike was definitely not a garden bike! 👍
I thort the same, I had a 84 rm 80 and that thing was a missile, good race tho, best iv seen in a while
He’s definitely more than a weekend warrior which makes that race even more impressive!! Great riding by both.
That was fun to watch, literally had me on the edge of my seat……
Drone footage is really amazing,brilliant concept for a video Max.
Thanks Thomas! :-D Our drone guy Dan is a top class operator and super fun to have around on the shoots. He loves to push the limits of what he can do with the FPV drone, and this is definitely some of his best work :-D
I started out on a fourstroke quad when I was 13. But I always loved the sound and smell of a twostroke. Years later I got a 98 YZ250 when I was 21. That bike plus a bunch of Kawie stand up Jet Skis set in motion this passion I've had ever since. There's nothing like the sound or smell of a 2 smoke that doesn't give me chills and an instant hit of nostalgia. I'll ride a smoke till I choke!
I got a 73 YZ 80 in 76 and loved that bike. Great vid!!!
Thanks for watching Johnny :-D
These type of videos are top notch to watch , many thanks !!!!
Glad you like them! Cheers Max
Banging episode max! One of my favourites 👍
Thanks Charlie
man, i still remember waking up on christmas to a YZ85 when i was a child. one of my favorite memories
So awesome! Thanks for watching dude
Im a simple man, I Came for the sound of that little ripper and stayed for the great battle. Thanks Max
Steve riding style is awesome. Very nice movement on the bike. Difference between PRO and weekend warrior is noticeable 👍🏼
That's the best race I've seen in 5 years 😅
That was friggin Awesome! Well done to both riders, you guys ripped it out there! Love hearing that 2 stroke sing. Reminds me when i got beat by some young kid on an 85 and i was riding a kx(real kx) 250. No offense to the non smokers but i love 2 strokes. Great job again guys!
Glad you enjoyed it Charles :)
There's something about a well tuned 2 stroke on the pipe that sings my soul lullaby's. Great riding by both!
You just can't beat that sound man! Thanks for watching Jason :-)
I'm 53 and 6"3 and I still enjoy taking out a big wheel KX85 I actually still enjoy constant gear shifts, braking etc. I'll never be fat or cruise around on a four stroke 450.
Bloody awesome 999lazer, Loved it
glad you enjoyed it Mark:)
That was an epic dual and extremely good to watch. I personally called it before i started watching and it was a good call but effing close
Awesome often wondered along these lines. Early 90s Dad got me a 87 KX80 and he could not believe that I could leave his early-mid 70s Bultaco 350 in the dust. lil two strokes rock!
It's all about how much you want to twist that grip hey! ;-D Thanks for watching dude :-D
@@999lazer True. Also I think some eras just made huge leaps forward maybe electric is the leap of this era. 75-85 saw proper gas monoshock, expansion chambers, disc brakes, liquid cooling. Then 85-00 two stroke perfected without distortion to the cc rules. Would love to see a classic mx (scrambler) vs modern bike shoot out - suspension instead of power might be the decider.
Absolutely brilliant riding 👌🏼
Thanks for watching:)
Fun to watch ! But they should have switched up and did it again !
That was such an awesome video. Great race I was screaming for the 85 to go!!!
Thanks for watching Tdog, so glad you had fun watching :-D
That was such fun to watch. Excellent challenge, so exciting!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Omg what a race, that was so close! Great content max I had my heart in my mouth all the way 🏁🏁🏁winners!
Thanks Dean. It was a fun one to make :)
The videography and commentary are great on this!
Thanks Mason :-D
Good to see a blue 85 ripping instead of one of those orange things 😅
In my opinion these are by far the nicest looking 85s out there!
Yup
Go the 85 , great fun little machines , I'm a light rider and still love mine at 51 years old. Can't beat that 2 stroke feel.
That was far too much fun!! Super tense 😂😂 absolutely brilliant guys ❤️
Thanks :)
That was a bad ass race nice video I loved it
What a rider Steve is..remember him doing the AMA Nationals in 2010.
That looked so fun!
Should definitely make this a series!! Or attempt at one with a mini series to start it off or something. But i think I can speak for all of us in that we'd definitely watch that and tune in every week
We've got some cool plans for this concept, thanks for the support uncle Yetti :-D
My god what a race. My god. That was so cool. That 85 was putting in work.
Always the rider. 👋 awesome video guys 🤙🏻
Thanks:)
This was awesome! I enjoy all your videos, but this one is up there, i got my son a 2010 65sx, and the thing blows my mind with its power, and so fun to ride…
Glad you enjoyed it!
Personally I loved the kx 100 big wheel. Had a ttr125 for a pitbike at the time. And found my self riding the kx ever chance I got and letting my buddies ride the ttr. Absolutely loved it. For trails and everything except slow wheelies. I imagine a fly wheel swap would take care of that
Super good!!! Thanks Lazer!!!
Thanks for watching my dude
Great entertainment guys! Some great scrubs and great drones too. Awesome!
Thanks for watching Darren, glad you enjoyed it! :-D
The drone footage took that video to a whole new level, superb.
Thanks for watching
Some epic racing at the end ❤
it was awesome to watch, cheers :)
Impressed with the GG, for staying with the pace. 4 strokes might be what's relegated now, but 2 strokes ROCK! Woulda been cool to see a comparo with a YZ 465H...
Awesome vid, that 85 from Roland is a weapon 👌🏻 You forgot to mention Eddie Jay Wade being an 85cc world champion onboard one of Mark Woodage's machines at MJW specialist
We did a video with Eddie way back in his 65 days, it was awesome to see him win the world title in 2017 i think it was! We also did a video with Mark back when he ran a Kawasaki MX team as well ( i want to say that was in 2013 maybe..)
OMG! That bail at the start was savage!
That was plain awesome, thanks..
Thanks, really appreciate your comment :)
That was my favourite race so far mental
Absolutely fabulous racing from start to finish, well done Max, Sean, Steve, and Roland you worked you're magic on yz , thanks Max and you're team for the top quality videos.
Thanks Kevin, really appreciate you checking in as usual :)
That was such an awesome video to watch, had me whooping at the screen 😂, good job guys 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
That's awesome! I always wondered what would happen!
Cheers Dave, We loved making this one :)
Fun video. Good camera work.
Really enjoyed these two going at it on the track. The last quarter of the track was a nail biter.
Thanks for watching:)
This was absolutely awesome. 🤙
Thanks Sparky:)
That was awesome, loved it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
That dirt is incredible, looks like potting soil, cheers from Ca..and yeah, riding with a pro is an ego crusher for sure.
Saved up half a year and got my first MX bike, a YZ80D, in 1979 at age 12. Later in life around 30th BD got a 1996 YZ250 2-stroke, got back into riding. Loved both. But life got in the way... Fast forward 25 years. Just finished building a 29kW (36hp) Surron, and I'm smiling like a little kid again, taking it on 'mild' MX tracks. Build video is on my channel.
That was awesome! Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
What a great video, well done
Thanks for watching Darren :-D
That guy in the 85 2T was just a BEAST! Man that guy have BALLS!
That YZ sounds beautiful man,I love the small bikes,dont get hurt on them as much.
Awesome video guys!
Thanks dude :-D
GREAT VIDEO!!! Loved It.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent race! Sucked me in and I watched from start to finish. Great job guys.
Thanks:)
That was absolutely brilliant 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
cheers :)