Why Solo Developers Should Use Unreal

2023 ж. 27 Жел.
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I chatted with @TwoStarGames to discuss why he used Unreal as a solo developer to create the smash hit Choo Choo Charles...
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    @thomasbrush@thomasbrush4 ай бұрын
    • this is 100% random, watch the indie show bigtop burger made by worthikids DO IT!

      @fuseboxjackson2789@fuseboxjackson27894 ай бұрын
    • you add in a bunch of 3rd party addons to unity and its pretty darn close to unreal.. especially for a solo dev. with Unity 6 when they fix alot of the issues with performance with the meshes, it will be even closer... at the end of the day, its not "Unity" thats stopping you from making money, (like being on Unreal would fix it). its your own effort / talent / skill, you can make a good game on both platforms...

      @Nullscr1pt@Nullscr1pt4 ай бұрын
    • Agreed. I'm always telling people there's hundreds of ways to code a simple movement controller No one developer does it the same way. So go learn your way and save it as a script or blueprint and keep updating it as you learn Eventually you'll have a game you can import and reskin and resell

      @BadBanana@BadBanana4 ай бұрын
    • Id say that purely for 2D the best thing to go with would be Godot

      @NoiseFr3ak@NoiseFr3ak4 ай бұрын
    • Hey, I wanted to know your thoughts on Godot too? Seems like an up and comer.

      @embrex104@embrex1044 ай бұрын
  • Bro really doesn't want what's behind that door to get out.

    @onethousandxp@onethousandxp3 ай бұрын
    • He's keeping his darker side in there. 🤣

      @nikdudnik@nikdudnikАй бұрын
    • Thats wherre he keeps the people that say "thats impossible to do in blueprint"

      @Allibie@AllibieАй бұрын
  • Did anyone notice how many locks Gavin has on the door?

    @revalreval@revalreval4 ай бұрын
    • Yeah wtf?

      @prestonwoolsey2488@prestonwoolsey24884 ай бұрын
    • Meant to be a joke from the Dev logs, but it wasn't funny from the start tbh.

      @Paul0880@Paul08804 ай бұрын
    • First thing I noticed. It’s like someone is out to get him. Probably the folks at Unity. Their decision making hasn’t been the best of late… 😅

      @Ab19647@Ab196474 ай бұрын
    • yeah i think charles is after him

      @Ceej16@Ceej164 ай бұрын
    • I thought it was a Silent Hill 4: The Room reference 😅

      @YVZSTUDIOS@YVZSTUDIOS4 ай бұрын
  • 6:14 "You can make a game wrong and it be profitable" AAA games: Yes

    @capitanhotcake1378@capitanhotcake13784 ай бұрын
    • EA liked that.

      @SlumpogMillionaire@SlumpogMillionaire4 ай бұрын
    • making a game wrong only matters when you need to fix a bug or it is a live service. if you dont touch it after release who cares what it looks like

      @dtracers@dtracers4 ай бұрын
    • FIFA: YES

      @cibularas3485@cibularas34852 ай бұрын
    • Ubiaoft: **coughs** **leaves**

      @Ezfar1995@Ezfar1995Ай бұрын
  • As a struggling indie dev, I like how you mention that there's a million ways to do something, and that even though you're making it "wrong", if it works, then it works. The end user doesn't care as long as they're not lagging or suffering. Edit: this is getting misconstrued as supporting bad practice in programming, but that's not what I'm talking about. All I'm saying is that it's ok to not be 100% conventional all of the time as long as you're doing so responsibly.

    @ChipboardDev@ChipboardDev4 ай бұрын
    • Bethesda built an empire on borked games. As long as the player is satisfied the game is good.

      @Quixoticrow@Quixoticrow4 ай бұрын
    • Totally agree. While making my game (real small, nothing crazy), I kept thinking "Am I making this the most efficient way?" And then I thought "No. But they don't know that."

      @ZayJayPlays@ZayJayPlays4 ай бұрын
    • Undertale is the best example I can think of for this.

      @TheXev@TheXev3 ай бұрын
    • Just stick to the trusted and true phrase: "If its stupid but it works it ain't stupid." Obviously if you do somtheing differently than everybody recommends and it does not work you have every right to be called stupid.....

      @1337Jogi@1337Jogi3 ай бұрын
    • @@Quixoticrow Excuse me, I am not satisfied with Starfield or Bethesda games since Skyrim.

      @abc-yg6tk@abc-yg6tk3 ай бұрын
  • 2:53 that door behind him tho… Gavin knows/has seen things he shouldn’t…

    @CoffeeAI201@CoffeeAI2014 ай бұрын
    • was wondering why no one was mentioning that lol

      @ronnmozz@ronnmozz4 ай бұрын
    • The real chochoo charles😢

      @Novanimator@Novanimator4 ай бұрын
  • Gavens "wrong" way of texturing is not as wrong as it seems. He did something quite similar to trimsheets, which are commonly used by AAA studios for texturing models like buildings etc.

    @soundhunter846@soundhunter8464 ай бұрын
    • Exactly, if you're using trim sheets or tileable textures it's common to adapt the UV to the texture since the texture is reusable across many models.

      @lhmsc@lhmsc4 ай бұрын
    • Agreed, this is a totally valid workflow. Uniquely unwrapping and texturing every prop in a game causes texture memory issues more than trimsheet workflows. Which is why I personally prefer the latter.

      @SirRebonack@SirRebonack4 ай бұрын
    • Yeah idk why this guy thought it was ridiculous. Vfx artists do that all day everyday for photogrammetry.

      @atch300@atch3002 ай бұрын
  • Bro has 40 locks on his door behind him LMFAO what the heck

    @SSLCKtv@SSLCKtv4 ай бұрын
    • its the door to his haunted basement lmao

      @BraveAbandon@BraveAbandon27 күн бұрын
  • On the gaming front I too have found that blueprints can do pretty much everything, maybe like 95%-99% of all the things you care about with that last small part being only relevant for complex things you may not even care about in an indie game. The separation from blueprint and C++ is really meant for larger studios where you'd have a few senior coders that write all the core gameplay logic in C++ and then let the level designers and artists consume that in blueprint, so that there is a separation of workflows based on department and skillset, but as a solo or even a small team that's not really important anyway. And regarding the "you can make it wrong and still be profitable" applies to not just games but all software. I'm a programmer w/ over 25+ years experience and work on HR software and I swear to god if folks saw the code that powered their online banking and 401Ks they'd keep their money in a shoebox, lol

    @colonelb@colonelb4 ай бұрын
    • Trust me, there are many things you can not do with blueprint, this is why I switched my project from blueprint to C++ because I saw the limitations

      @joantonio6331@joantonio63314 ай бұрын
    • Many will say something can't be done just because they couldn't figure out a way to do it. That's kind of the beautiful thing about programming something so crazy complex like video games.

      @Helthurian@Helthurian4 ай бұрын
    • @@joantonio6331Such as?

      @protophase@protophase4 ай бұрын
    • @@Helthurian this comment show that you have not made a game more complex than the average... Try to program mass AI just with blueprint, program the processor, the mass processor. Once your project become more complex than the average, you will see the limitations of blueprint

      @joantonio6331@joantonio63314 ай бұрын
    • Disagree entirely as comments like this will 100% drag new devs into dev hell. Being able to hop in a debugger and trace the game flow from entry to shutdown is so powerful. Sadly blueprints can only scale so far before you enter a stage of dependency issues and bouncing between many blueprints causing confusion. blueprints should fill the gap between logic and visuals. I tend to write systems like pickups in C++ and expose events for designers to hook into and script logic on top. Even if solo I still do this because, at the end of the day, debugging is king and blueprints cannot beat C++.

      @davidcauchi@davidcauchi4 ай бұрын
  • 1000% agree on the gatekeeping "what's right/wrong" discussion!

    @DeathCloudGames@DeathCloudGames4 ай бұрын
    • You see it all over these comments LOL

      @douknow57@douknow574 ай бұрын
    • which is then followed by them gatekeeping how to texture things. hilarious

      @Raecast@Raecast4 ай бұрын
    • Nope. There are objective rights and wrongs. People who say so otherwise have no clue what they're doing and get offended by their lack of skill. Please stay out of programming if you are this type of person.

      @user-og6hl6lv7p@user-og6hl6lv7p3 ай бұрын
    • @@user-og6hl6lv7p But usualy in programing thare are multiple ways of doing it right, and oblivious ways to do things wrong. From my experience its always some kind of trade. You trade your solution between optimalization, code acces, readability, modularity etc. Most of the time you dont have data to choose right solution, and end up guessing. In industry as chaotic as gamedev best solutions rarely exist.

      @PanSkrzynka_@PanSkrzynka_3 ай бұрын
  • I love blueprints. It's the only reason I started game dev because raw code never clicked with me. The cool thing is too, I now can read raw code better because of my use of blueprints since the terminology is similar. Glad to see yet another successful dev call out gatekeeping.

    @Helthurian@Helthurian4 ай бұрын
    • This is how I learnt coding for the first time. Learnt gamemaker visual scripting, which slowly turned into coding and now I code. Honestly, I would actually recommend some people who are intimidated by coding to start with visual scripting.

      @azzaamnasir5819@azzaamnasir58194 ай бұрын
    • @@azzaamnasir5819 Yep. Started with Game Maker Visual blocks, learned some GML, got a hang of the foundations. Started learning Java and a lot seemed very familiar! Now learning intermediate level Java, and my goal is to become advanced and start C++ by the end of 2024. COME ON GUYS, GET A TASTE OF CODE, there's so many opportunities out there! I'm struggling a bit but we gotta push forward; no turning back when we already started.

      @zoiskiee28@zoiskiee283 ай бұрын
  • Wow what a great interview! I could listen to you 2 talk for 3 hours... As a guy who has zero background in game developing and is currently learning UE5, I am so happy to hear that I can do everything in blueprint and C++ is not necessary.

    @gnoel5722@gnoel57224 ай бұрын
  • My guy Gavin never plans on leaving his house ever again. 😅True dev.

    @theonesantiago@theonesantiago4 ай бұрын
  • As a Solo Developer myself who is working on a massive open world farming game, I am sticking with Unity for now, but I do have second thoughts for switching to Unreal after this project mainly because there are a few bottlenecks that I have encountered in Unity... Although Unity has been my bread earner from almost a decade now so it feels like i am doing unfair with the software. Lets see what the future holds.! 🤞

    @hamzahgamedev@hamzahgamedev4 ай бұрын
    • What bottlenecks, specifically? Have you considered DOTS (ECS, Jobs and/or Burst Systems?)

      @dreamcatforgotten8435@dreamcatforgotten84354 ай бұрын
    • I have decided to use both Unity and Unreal. I am now learning Unreal Engine.

      @gfujigo@gfujigo4 ай бұрын
    • @@dreamcatforgotten8435 there are a few limitations with post processing when i am using multiple cameras and there’s no in built LOD system like in unreal. Although Unity is a BEAST when it comes to mobile and 2D. But for 3D it is sometimes giving me a haard time 😅

      @hamzahgamedev@hamzahgamedev4 ай бұрын
    • @@hamzahgamedev A guy named Chris Kahler(sp) is working on something called Nano Tech for Unity, which will basically be a Nanite-like solution for Unity. I think he plans on selling it as an Asset for 100-200, or so. I'm looking forward to it. As for the Post Processing, I don't have a solution since I typically avoid that kind of stuff unless absolutely necessary.

      @dreamcatforgotten8435@dreamcatforgotten84354 ай бұрын
    • @@dreamcatforgotten8435 hmm, i know him from his cloth physics asset. Didn’t knew anything about nanite, i will definitely give it a look. Thank you 🙏

      @hamzahgamedev@hamzahgamedev4 ай бұрын
  • what da hell is in his door

    @qwelty3202@qwelty32024 ай бұрын
  • Using Unreal Engine is a good idea, but only if you are making a 3D game. If you are making a 2D game, working in Unreal Engine might feel like fighting windmills. Unity is much more universal in this case.

    @IdealIdleIncremental@IdealIdleIncremental4 ай бұрын
    • Not really, you can use paper 2D plugin for making 2D games kzhead.info/sun/h6apkquZfHeIfGg/bejne.html

      @WesleyVanroose@WesleyVanroose4 ай бұрын
    • I wouldn't say this. I'd say Unreal out of the box is not 2D friendly. But there is a free plugin on the marketplace called Paper ZD that makes it more 2D friendly, and some tutorials on it around. That said, it's better for 2.5D games like Octopath Traveler. In fact, Gavin himself made a 2.5D game before Choo Choo Charles called My Paper Smile. I just want to be careful about scaring people away from Unreal engine just because they want to do 2D. It's possible, and there are resources for it. But yes, Unity is better made for 2D games and has more resources. But if you want to make a game, and regular coding is scary, you can do it with Unreal. It will just be a little challenging. Personally, I'd love to see more 2D games with Unreal so that Epic learns there's a market for it, and to build better tools for it.

      @KhroMcKrakken@KhroMcKrakken4 ай бұрын
    • It still works, an engine is more than it's graphics. Making 2D in Unreal still allows you to use everything else that doesnt relate to 2D/3D.

      @RockyMulletGamedev@RockyMulletGamedev4 ай бұрын
    • Wasn’t there a plugin for 2d in unreal?

      @Generalsiris@Generalsiris4 ай бұрын
    • Or Godot and gamemaker.

      @AL-lh2ht@AL-lh2ht4 ай бұрын
  • wtf is with his door ?

    @ericb6048@ericb60484 ай бұрын
    • I think cho cho Charles is on the other side

      @MatiasFatias@MatiasFatias28 күн бұрын
    • @@MatiasFatiasnot gonna say it IS the meths but deff not gonna say it ISN’T the meths either 😂💀

      @nge_headshot_2097@nge_headshot_209712 күн бұрын
    • It's probably a joke. He is a horror game dev, I'd be surprised if he didn't pull something like that.

      @btark91@btark917 күн бұрын
    • He’s keeping the IRS out of his room 😂

      @foofofdeath@foofofdeath6 күн бұрын
  • Actually Gavin’s way of texturing was a very legit way back in the day when you had a very limited texture budget. In the ps2 area that technique was a super effective way of ensuring your texture budget didn’t blow up.. and made it easy for models to share textures.

    @peevee5588@peevee55884 ай бұрын
  • I’m a new solo game dev using ue5. Started about a week ago. Already have a player controller, basic hit detection and combat animations for the player. I have a map and new sky boxes. I also just got the beginnings of some NPCs working. And this is just within a week starting with zero prior knowledge. It’s easy to learn if you are willing to fix something 200times before it works the right way!

    @thewhyyyguy6274@thewhyyyguy62743 ай бұрын
    • How you doin now its been almost 3 weeks

      @twdmoments-zd2qx@twdmoments-zd2qx3 ай бұрын
    • @@twdmoments-zd2qx good. Things have been slow bc I started college again but I’m still working on it. I have basic npcs now and a health system. I’m working on the combat and damage system rn. The game will never release for money it’s just a fun thing for me to work on but if I ever post it for free I will post here and lyk!

      @thewhyyyguy6274@thewhyyyguy62743 ай бұрын
    • @@thewhyyyguy6274 thats pretty nice bro what kind lf game you are creating?

      @twdmoments-zd2qx@twdmoments-zd2qx3 ай бұрын
    • @@twdmoments-zd2qx it’s like a third person action adventure game. I’m focusing heavily on getting the game mechanics and hard code to be as good as possible because I really start to nail down the more in depth game design

      @thewhyyyguy6274@thewhyyyguy62743 ай бұрын
    • @@thewhyyyguy6274 thats nice update me

      @twdmoments-zd2qx@twdmoments-zd2qx3 ай бұрын
  • This is a perfect example on why you should work on having you game out there and not stress too much on making it in the perfect way and worrying about the small stuff. Learn from the project and do it better on the next one, as this perfectly exemplifies that you can be successful while doing things in a less than optimal way. Thanks for the wisdom, great video!

    @oncgm@oncgm4 ай бұрын
  • Already doing it. Been using Unreal for a month now, never going back to Unity.

    @THExRISER@THExRISER4 ай бұрын
    • Is it unreal lot better i kind think to go to unreal

      @twdmoments-zd2qx@twdmoments-zd2qx3 ай бұрын
    • @@twdmoments-zd2qx For me it's a lot better, blueprints make it so much easier to code, and Unreal was easier to learn personally.

      @THExRISER@THExRISER3 ай бұрын
  • I work as a Senior Tech Artist in the automotive industry and I couldn't agree more. Indie games can entirely be made with Blueprints. In the automotive field there is much to be done by C++ Programmers as they want very specific 3D pipeline related stuff or strange stuff like tracking a cars position to kind of make a Mario Kart VR thingy with realy driving cars but anything that goes into the region of games, we just use Blueprints.

    @codepeas@codepeas4 ай бұрын
  • I mean, if it boils down to programming there is basically just a bunch of different ways to do the same thing. The thing that matters is what the side effects are of doing it the way you did as some are faster, some are easier to read, some merge in with other code better. and so on and so on

    @shadowlordalpha@shadowlordalpha4 ай бұрын
  • "you can make it wrong and still be profitable" - This applies to everything in life. I'm a writer and artist, learning to do game dev and I have to say you can write things poorly, you draw things badly, you code things horribly and people will still love it. It doesn't matter. All that matters is your game resonates with the player. All it needs to do is generate some sort of emotional response. If you have done that, people will buy and play your game, regardless of how bad your art, music, writing, code, etc is.

    @AsheLucia@AsheLucia4 ай бұрын
  • Agreed on the blueprint stigma. I develop in blueprint and really enjoy its flow, and generally havent been limited by it at all yet. Theres always a way.

    @rekware9320@rekware93204 ай бұрын
    • yeah i've started working in unreal at work recently and yeah the majority of the work we're doing is still in blueprints even though we are working on a AA game. THe main things that are in c++ is the networking stuff and the GAS system or just simple base classes to be used as the base for blueprints, which if needed should be simple enough to learn

      @ShamerGamerJM@ShamerGamerJM4 ай бұрын
    • @@ShamerGamerJM I have heard that regarding replication.

      @rekware9320@rekware93204 ай бұрын
    • Keep coping nothing beats programming

      @tanura5830@tanura58303 күн бұрын
  • Thanks for make this video (both)!

    @daniel_wust@daniel_wust4 ай бұрын
  • A great interview. I've been a Unity dev professionally for a while now and I feel like if there's something I want to do, I can do it if I focus enough, so this year my new years resolution is to learn UE. I'm intimidated but interviews like this make me feel much more confident about it.

    @piratemin_vr@piratemin_vr4 ай бұрын
  • This was the right video at the right time, for me. Super encouraging. Thank you

    @HailSkroob12345@HailSkroob123454 ай бұрын
  • 5:42 Thomas is right, you should listen to the people who've done it. Hundreds of developers have used C++ to build their games in Unreal. *Gavin* is actually the special one, capable of doing it all in Blueprint. I very rarely see people in the forums stating that x/y/z can't be done in blueprints. Though, whenever someone asks about building a multiplayer game, the answer is inevitably going to involve C++.

    @andreww2208@andreww22084 ай бұрын
    • I wouldn't say that, C++ network coding is not very safe. Mess things up and you can end up putting in a memory error, and all of a sudden hackers are installing ransomware on your customer's PCs using your matchmaking system. C# is safer, and better suited for networking, since the signal is traveling through kilometers of wire, the small performance benefits of C++ don't really contribute significantly.

      @ShadoFXPerino@ShadoFXPerino4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@ShadoFXPerinowhat are you talking about?

      @GC-jm9bt@GC-jm9bt4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@ShadoFXPerinolol bro, the biggest most successful games ever made are in C++. Also hackers can get into any network and alter client experiences via mods and ransomware. The language the game was written in even for the backend code has nothing to do with the security, it all comes down to the failsafes created by the developers to encrypt client connections to the servers and confuse anybody who is trying to breach the network.

      @indiecore-2022@indiecore-20224 ай бұрын
    • ​@@ShadoFXPerinoalso a signal traveling through kilometers of wires is safer than what? Signals traveling through wires can be intercepted physically, that's why they twist the metal strands inside the casing of ethernet cables so people can't get clear data from them

      @indiecore-2022@indiecore-20224 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing your experience, instructive as always ! just do it is the best advice ,still please tell also about best practices as they are always time savers !

    @gamawoodev@gamawoodev4 ай бұрын
  • Gavin's door looks like he's anticipating Choo Choo Charles.

    @bluebukkitdev8069@bluebukkitdev80693 ай бұрын
  • great advices, totally fell in love with that podcast format, that is all i needed. "making progress" is the key here, there is no smart or talented, it is just matter of focus and dedication. as a software engineer i don't like working with blueprints, even if i'm doing it, probably because it feels less controllable. but i definetly see how powerfull they are, and i totally agree with what Gavin said.

    @ayo4911@ayo4911Ай бұрын
  • Great stuff about gatekeeping. The amount of things I’ve done where people have said ”you can’t do it”. People really need to understand how filled the internet is with people who try to drag you down or make you discouraged.

    @wilpuriarts5895@wilpuriarts58954 ай бұрын
  • I use about 75% C++ and 25% blueprint and that's mostly because for me C++ is easy, generally easier to make something complicated like a full on system, AI or a playable character, but I also love using blueprint for anything simple like triggering an event, changing music, sound effect and I do all my UI stuff in blueprint, cause for UI is definitely better than C++. Sometimes I even take a peek in the code of a blueprint node to know how to do something in C++. I definitely wont gatekeep on it. As Thomas mentioned, there's always people telling you that what you are doing is wrong and they know THE ONLY RIGHT WAY, but the truth is: there is no right and wrong way, there's only something that works and something that doesn't. The players don't care, they just want a game they enjoy.

    @RockyMulletGamedev@RockyMulletGamedev4 ай бұрын
    • Hi, I am considering creating my next project in UE5. The only thing that kept me from UE for now was blueprints. I like writing code. I also know how to code in C++. However since I discovered shader graphs in Unity,I have to admit that visual scripting can be very efficient. That being said I still don't want to rely 100% on blueprints, as this guy did. May I ask how you deal with looking up stuff for UE, because most of the time, the tutorials are for blueprints?

      @narmjep5674@narmjep56744 ай бұрын
    • @@narmjep5674 Like I said up there, I do the majority of the coding in C++ and pretty much everything can be done in both C++ and blueprint. I generally chose based on how easy it is to do it one way or the other. I use blueprint generally when it involves a lot of reference to specific assets / objects, so generally to trigger level design events, sound or UI, since they are specific things and not systems. And C++ when it involves a lot of code, with states, variables and specially when it involves a lot of mathematics. I had experience with other engines and with C++ prior using Unreal. So I first bough a Udemy "C++ in Unreal" course and followed a portion of it until I knew the basics. Then I... often just look at the code really. It's an option when you install Unreal that I STRONGLY suggest doing if you plan on doing any C++: download Unreal's source code as well, way easier to debug and you can just look the code to see what exists. Also since 99% of the code can be done either in C++ or blueprint, following a blueprint tutorial will still teach you what to do. You can right click on blueprint nodes and open the C++ code directly from the node, so you can see what's the code under the hood to know how to do it in C++. Blueprint is not some black magic shenanigan, it's just visual scripting calling a C++ function. With the source code, you can just look at said C++ code. People bash Unreal's documentation and in good part because... it's autogenerated from comments in the code, BUT it also means that the doc is basically directly in the code. I often just wander in header files, searching for what I want.

      @RockyMulletGamedev@RockyMulletGamedev4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@narmjep5674 A lot of the functions share the same names so a good way to get started with that would be to transfer an existing Blueprint class to C++. I think there's a mini class on it in the Epic learning services or it might be on KZhead.

      @janlucsaneaux1915@janlucsaneaux19154 ай бұрын
    • @@narmjep5674 Shaders are materials. They have their own set of nodes for their blueprints. But you can write custom expressions or even full HLSL code with a plugin if you want. Very flexible. As for general blueprint use, you can and should always have a blueprint even if it's empty. I create a C++ base class and parent the Blueprint to it. So the Blueprint can have access to everything available in C++. There's a menu to create these C++ classes for you (and any unreal C++ class really). Going the other way is usually done by defining a function in C++, but implemented in the Blueprint. This lets you call BP functions from C++. What I often do is prototype in a blueprint. And if it's good or starts to get too unwieldy, I just write a function in C++ that the blueprint can call if necessary. Inheritance is BP->My C++ class->Engine base class. You can reparent a BP anytime. So you can create a blueprint first and add a C++ base class later if you need/want C++. To look stuff up, there's online docs and the UE forums are great if you ask your question clearly with enough information. There are people at all hours of the day just waiting to help people. There is also discord if you need more immediate help, but you need to be a bit persistent. If you go with Unreal, first thing to learn is what is an actor and a component. You can't use Unreal if you don't know what those two things are in Unreal. They're simple, but you need to make sure you know them. Then learn the difference between Actor, Pawn and Character. There's a running joke that when you find out, please let us know :) There is a difference, but some parts aren't always clear.

      @alienrenders@alienrenders4 ай бұрын
  • The number one reason most people say to use C++ over BPs is the claim that BP is slower. While that may be true, it's also a premature optimization thing, and in most cases the what actually slows a game down has nothing to do with the BP anyway, it's the objects in a scene or lighting. C++ isn't fixing that. But it's still the default answer for most people, and they just can't find a way to get off it.

    @andrewshandle@andrewshandle4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@evvveeeeeeeeYeah and to the point made in the video most indie devs won't be making something so complex where C++ is going to make a huge difference compared to other optimization.

      @Helthurian@Helthurian4 ай бұрын
    • @@Helthurian I think the point more was “understand the line drawn on what C++ benefits you have and what benefits BP have”

      @evvveeeeeeee@evvveeeeeeee4 ай бұрын
    • @@evvveeeeeeee I meant Thomas's interview. I could have worded that better. :)

      @Helthurian@Helthurian4 ай бұрын
    • I always had this notion that while u could do most of the things in blueprints it might not be as optimised as raw code so I thought that for higher level of optimisation Devs would still go to c++

      @yagamilight08@yagamilight08Ай бұрын
  • "pick something and move forward" that the kind of thing you should always have in mind in any situations

    @bike_n_fish@bike_n_fish4 ай бұрын
  • Great video. Appreciate you posting this.

    @Scorbutic@Scorbutic4 ай бұрын
  • More on Unreal seeming complex: there is a lot of systems in it that facilitate creation of big games with fancy graphics with good performance. Stuff like texture streaming, TAA/TSR settings, HLODs, PSO caching are all optional and not required. If you're making a small game by yourself, you won't need to touch most of those systems. Default settings for most systems are fine for vast majority of cases. For a beginner, Blueprints and Material basics is all you need to get something running and that's already going to be a huge step towards a finished project!

    @TheMikirog@TheMikirog4 ай бұрын
  • Unreal had been a real beast for me and at this moment I am more focused on the filmaking aspect. But want to do game dev eventually. Very interesting talking points but the barricaded door kept catching my attention 😅.

    @The3DSphinx@The3DSphinx4 ай бұрын
    • right? what's up with that?

      @jtms1200@jtms12004 ай бұрын
    • @@jtms1200 I was waiting for something to burst through.

      @The3DSphinx@The3DSphinx4 ай бұрын
    • I love that door!!

      @TheRealMovieNerds@TheRealMovieNerds4 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, video about the door pls :)

      @michalparkola@michalparkola4 ай бұрын
  • Beautiful work dude so talented and congrats on releasing the game

    @jasonabc@jasonabc3 ай бұрын
  • The attitude is a whole vibe. I love how you're encouraging people to get away from whatever the cult is saying and just focus on progress. Did you move forward? You did! Great, keep moving, the learning comes for free during the ride.

    @irql2@irql24 ай бұрын
    • Amen! So true

      @gfujigo@gfujigo4 ай бұрын
    • "As long as you feel good, you're program can't possibly be slow!" Massive, massive, massive cope right there.

      @user-og6hl6lv7p@user-og6hl6lv7p3 ай бұрын
  • I love this video keep slaying lads one day at a time!!

    @wormmworks9645@wormmworks96454 ай бұрын
  • omg the door in the back!

    @javiercolinacatalurda9644@javiercolinacatalurda96444 ай бұрын
  • I would love to have used Unreal Engine. But that Engine is so massive. It takes several gigabytes and sort of clogs my computer up. I even asked the Unreal Engine developers to make a condensed version of their engine and they said that they might do it. As of now, I use Godot which takes up megabytes instead of gigabytes. Thus, as of now, Godot has less strain on my computer.

    @HE360_Games@HE360_Games4 ай бұрын
    • Godot's also better for 2D. The problem is with it's 3D pipeline though (and I'm saying it as an avid fan of the engine). Godot's 3D is.. lacking? As of now, it doesn't even offer a good real time global illumination solution. I'm probably bad at optimization, but Godot doesn't seem suited for big, open world games, like Gavin here was making. The lack of a marketplace/asset store that's deeply integrated into the engine doesn't help. Yeah there's the asset browser, but it lack the potential of something like Unreal's marketplace Unreal Engine is also just really pretty

      @absentspaghetti4527@absentspaghetti45274 ай бұрын
    • Unfortunately, we'll never be able to make a massive game like V Rising with Godot, because it doesn't have DOTS technology. But it's very lightweight for mobile and 2D games

      @containedhurricane@containedhurricane4 ай бұрын
    • @@absentspaghetti4527 Don't they have VoxelGI and SDFGI? Do they both suck?

      @megac0ffee@megac0ffee4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@megac0ffeeno they are fine. Godot has some rough edges but gi is not one of them imo

      @mattseaton5832@mattseaton58324 ай бұрын
  • I wasn't expecting anything and got the best indie game dev motivational video ever! 🙏

    @nikdudnik@nikdudnikАй бұрын
  • I actually really liked this video!!! More vids like this would be epic 🤩

    @YVZSTUDIOS@YVZSTUDIOS4 ай бұрын
  • 6:45 Lixian: As long as it works, that's what matters

    @DarkBelow-nw6tg@DarkBelow-nw6tg3 ай бұрын
  • Definitely needed to see this

    @cwilliams4753@cwilliams47533 ай бұрын
  • This was a freaking good and informative video

    @pabletoday9782@pabletoday97824 ай бұрын
  • If I had to take one thing I learned from this video is to always do things that u feel comfortable doing it in even if others think it’s wrong if it works for u keep doing that and find ways to improve that method because who knows maybe eventually it will become the best method

    @slbmd-dupont1610@slbmd-dupont1610Ай бұрын
  • You're great. I've been facing the issue of everyone saying "you can't do that in blueprint" too, and I've always been able to achieve the thing at the end of the day. WISE WORDS!

    @ResonanceRebirth@ResonanceRebirth4 ай бұрын
  • Bro really charging $1000 for a course? Cmon man..

    @Josh_Alfaro@Josh_Alfaro2 ай бұрын
  • Great video, very useful info!

    @cesarsfalcao@cesarsfalcao4 ай бұрын
  • Thank you !!!! Thank you very much .... I wasnt born in english speaking country( I think that my biggest problem), and allready 2 years im working on my game in UE5. And I ALLWAYS come to situacion where all peoples on all chats and forums saying its imposible just with blueprint or just with blender or just with free assets and than all tutorials are to much complex with not good results .... and ALLWAYS I just stacked for couple months until i find way how to make this or that ( first half year with blender was for me really pain ) . And this ten minutes with someone who allready made something gave me more than last 100 hours of tutorials !!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH BOTH !!!!

    @martinsvanda5874@martinsvanda58744 ай бұрын
    • Whay game you making bro?😀

      @twdmoments-zd2qx@twdmoments-zd2qx3 ай бұрын
    • @@twdmoments-zd2qx Souls-like Rough-like Survival Game...... its sound like something hard but principiel its really simple game style

      @martinsvanda5874@martinsvanda58743 ай бұрын
    • @@martinsvanda5874 thats nice keep me updating bro i will play this

      @twdmoments-zd2qx@twdmoments-zd2qx3 ай бұрын
  • Spline meshes are awesome. Also why does his door have so many locks 👀

    @kaikun2236@kaikun22363 ай бұрын
  • This was really neat - I’m likely reading into it too much but I feel passive aggressive vibes from you on him using assets lol 😂

    @dogepotatogamedev@dogepotatogamedev3 ай бұрын
  • 6:11 - Now, I noticed his door.

    @vesogry@vesogry4 ай бұрын
  • Literally the same thing with audio engineering. I started self teaching 4 years ago and just recently got to a point where I can make a jump doing it full-time. And that whole journey consisted of me listening to only a few people who actually do it full-time while filtering out all the others who think they know what they’re talking about but don’t actually do it. Lately, I’ve been debating game development too since games are another passion of mine. I feel like this would be a good time to get in since AAA companies seem to be pissing off a lot of people.

    @moderncreep9385@moderncreep93854 ай бұрын
  • 8:25 "That's the most ridiculous way I've hear of actually painting a model" He's talking about my exact process as well haha!

    @kaingagame4351@kaingagame43514 ай бұрын
  • I am currently developing a game on my own using unreal engine (video on my channel) and this was very inspirational thank you!

    @Tomasuu1@Tomasuu1Ай бұрын
  • 2:35 "Are you uniquely suited to ..." Looks at his door ............... unique for sure!

    @ReneSteenNielsen@ReneSteenNielsen4 ай бұрын
  • to be fair the way gavin is doing it is a technique called trim sheets. it is very useful for level designs and texturing larger assets. i would 100% recommend people learn how to texture assets like that.

    @TitancanFall@TitancanFall19 күн бұрын
  • As a small indie game dev, my moto i always go by when programming something is I don't care how I do it, if it works, it works. Really enjoyed this video, it gives a lot of good information about how Unreal works and its Blueprints system.

    @SimpleDeveloperOfficial@SimpleDeveloperOfficialАй бұрын
  • blueprints are fine as long as the functions and events are short and tidy to keep track of, anything that is way too complex with 100s of nodes connected in multiple branches, only then becomes a problem down the road, since its hard to keep track of while fixing/adjusting or removing bugs, that's where c++ comes in handy in both performance gain (slight) and easier to track the code, i've done development in both so I m a bit familiar with it, that said, for indie blueprints are the way to go for pumping out games faster cause the market is tough

    @sinistrity@sinistrity4 ай бұрын
  • It encouraged me 😂 that sure is funny and it seems easy. ty

    @Nightoyl@Nightoyl4 ай бұрын
  • Is a inspiration man, i will try to make my own game in Unreal , starting now!!!

    @lmeier48@lmeier483 ай бұрын
  • Installed Unreal days ago, my gamedev journey just started :D I also practice to be 2D and especially 3D generalist so i do my assets, animations and co. as well. And yes, C++ is my first language to actually learn as well so good luck to me lol. I might have got my brother as a partner tho but this will be seen in 1,5-2 months. Let the party begin ;)

    @hound_of_justice@hound_of_justice4 ай бұрын
  • Omg how he does his texting using Blender and Gimp, is exactly how I do it too. 😄

    @curlison84@curlison844 ай бұрын
  • Wish this was longer and actually talked about unreal as an indie dev.

    @tonycalabro470@tonycalabro4704 ай бұрын
  • lovin the cut of gavins jib

    @eazyrat@eazyrat4 ай бұрын
  • I FRICKINGG LOVE THIS VIDEO. ITS SO REFRESHING seeing a good honest videos. reminded me of my childhood when i used to watch alot of pewdiepie's video back in the amnesia day. this was therapeutic and revived my will to live. thank you for an absolutely amazing video

    @wildkami1345@wildkami13454 ай бұрын
  • this was a really good video, Thanks man

    @AnwarAliCodes@AnwarAliCodes4 ай бұрын
  • Spline is also in the unity assets store

    @Panda-id1iu@Panda-id1iu4 ай бұрын
  • Best thing was Actors speaking without moving their lips, that gives me a motivation for how to make cutscenes!😅😂

    @director_unknown9@director_unknown94 ай бұрын
  • If you're familiar with Unity, Unreal's UI and logic is making it very hard to get use to. That's why I stick with Unity atm.

    @alp8360@alp83604 ай бұрын
    • Yeah me too dude

      @zonaeksperimen3449@zonaeksperimen34494 ай бұрын
    • just dont become familiar with them take 40% of your profits ;)

      @natemorga@natemorga4 ай бұрын
    • you mean 2.5% of profit over a million dollars a year, which is still less than Unreal. Not 40%. gtfo with that ignorance.

      @phirewind@phirewind4 ай бұрын
    • You just need to take it one tool at a time. Unreal has a ton of tools right from initial install, but you don't need to acknowledge them all right out of the gate.

      @Helthurian@Helthurian4 ай бұрын
    • Unity has the best pricing even after that drama. 2.5 % is nothing if I own a half Million. I will not learn a new engine which requires RTX 3070 and High end processor. So, for mobile and low end hardware you will have to use a decent engine for your indie title. BTW I'm also planning to learn Flax Engine.

      @gamecoder77@gamecoder774 ай бұрын
  • Good interview but umm lets talk about Gavins God Teir Lock system he has going on in the door in the back ground. He is trying to keep Choo Choo Charles out of his room? WE NEED TO KNOW!

    @Slacker333666@Slacker3336664 ай бұрын
  • Why so many door locks?

    @juicenot2481@juicenot24813 ай бұрын
  • Really wish I could enroll in your course, but with the conversion to BRL the price becomes impeditive. It would be so nice if we could buy more specific content, like just Unity for example.

    @puraasneira@puraasneira4 ай бұрын
  • I think the c++ gate keeping was a little overblown. There is some functionality that is cut off from blueprint in standard unreal engine. While external plugins might solve that, there are thousands upon thousands of external plugins and you can't expect people to know all of them. Also worth noting that these plugins likely are just porting the functionality from c++ to blueprint, so it is true that it was only doable in c++, someone just did the work for you, which is perfectly acceptable.

    @simonfinnie2900@simonfinnie29004 ай бұрын
  • as an indie dev, its great to hear im not the only one who just tries to get things to work and not make everything perfect

    @radon_slp@radon_slp3 ай бұрын
  • @2:19 "Oddly dedicated to be beaten up by a computer" - Looking at the number of locks and chains on his door...He's asking for a fricken beating!

    @PSDMaven@PSDMaven4 ай бұрын
  • oh,god,make indie game is so damn hard.i barely cant do it anymore after 6 months struggle.thank you for this video,it makes me feel better.

    @EthanSun1029@EthanSun10294 ай бұрын
  • You have no idea how much this helped/encouraged me. I'm starting my first game soon and have been discouraged by not knowing much. Hearing you guys explain some of the "wrong" ways you did things, but it works makes me feel awesome. "As long as you're making progress" - Thomas Brush 2023

    @brotatochips@brotatochips3 ай бұрын
  • Just make progress.. ❤

    @phillitup2328@phillitup23284 ай бұрын
    • @@karlwest437 yep! Doing 1% better a day makes 100% better in 100 days.

      @phillitup2328@phillitup23284 ай бұрын
  • Hey Thomas love your videos. Starting my game dev journey :) Is your course for Unreal updated to the latest version?

    @kembel2761@kembel27614 ай бұрын
  • The fact that Thomas didn’t know about splines is an example of the many legs-up that Unreal has over Unity. Unreal splines are super easy and intuitive to use. Unity just last year finally released a spline package and the UX is pretty awful.

    @owencoopersfx@owencoopersfx4 ай бұрын
    • He probably knew but was asking for the benefit of the audience

      @RandomGuyyy@RandomGuyyy4 ай бұрын
    • we use splines ALOT in unity for alot of things he most deffo knows what it means ux is self preference clearly coz i really like the minimalistic style of the ui and unity only change i would like is if they made the dark theme more darker and in unity we dont really rely much on the official tools and build our own mostly coz its more customisable that way and less bloated i have used both unreal and unity if u want you could check what ive done in my channel though those are js small prototypes and havent been working on something big lately coz of a broken laptop and school

      @upsurge5541@upsurge55414 ай бұрын
    • at the end its about the developer coz theres nothing i wont be able to do in unreal that i cant in unity and vice versa theres always a way

      @upsurge5541@upsurge55414 ай бұрын
    • that's the vibe I got. Often an interview will ask a guest to define a term for the benefit of the audience@@RandomGuyyy

      @midniteoilsoftware@midniteoilsoftware4 ай бұрын
    • @@upsurge5541 I mean when it works it works, but if you just look at it the wrong way it will start throwing errors and be a pain in the ass. The splines are pretty difficult to edit sometimes and the node positions being offsets relative to the GameObject can make them hard to move, as the transform gizmo is all over the place.

      @Hietakissa@Hietakissa4 ай бұрын
  • There IS a spline for path in the quixel medieval environnement, you only have to change the model

    @guilloisvincent2286@guilloisvincent22864 ай бұрын
  • Anyone else keep staring at that guys door and all the locks?

    @gh0stcloud499@gh0stcloud4994 ай бұрын
  • There's definitely a point where you will *want* to start using cpp even if you don't *have* to, especially with a large and complex project. If your project is relatively simple you probably won't need to. But your BPs can start to become a bit overwhelming as you increase complexity. What I try to do is take chunks of BP code that I haven't made changes to in awhile and refactor it to cpp. That way the lower level stuff runs under the hood and makes room for new prototyping stuff in BP and keeps your graphs clean. I also try to create all of my base classes in cpp because it's extremely simple to just make an ACharacter cpp class that is BP exposed when I inevitably decide to write stuff in cpp for it later. Also I like to create structs and enums in cpp, as well as any "core" variables that would be an annoyance to re-create later in cpp if I need to access it in code.

    @GlassesAndCoffeeMugs@GlassesAndCoffeeMugs3 ай бұрын
  • Gavin’s door lock situation is bonkers.

    @imaginarytoast@imaginarytoast4 ай бұрын
  • The Blueprint slander is strong out there. Blueprint is a perfectly viable way to code a shippable product.

    @occupationalhazard@occupationalhazard4 ай бұрын
  • Im completely distracted by the locks on the door

    @MrBadGrim@MrBadGrim4 ай бұрын
  • What's up with the door? Is my man in danger?

    @agorilla7137@agorilla71373 ай бұрын
  • The gatekeepers nearly stopped me from building the game I have wanted to for quite a while. So glad I found this video when I did, I was very close to making the wrong decision. Great video thank you 💗

    @Daniel_Parke@Daniel_Parke3 ай бұрын
  • i KNEW it! i played that game when it came out and LOVED it! When I saw the players train, i knew the textures were hand drawn, he says its an example of doing something wrong, but in all honesty, thats the one charactaristic that truly stuck with me as an artist, its one thing to pick up an asset and flip it onto the market in the indie space, but to take the time to create your own asset, and skin it yourself, high quality or otherwise, thats a personal touch, and i noticed that immediately and i loved it, it gave me bendy and the ink machine vibes but i didnt care because i knew in my core he did it personally. You can make a b-rank game with hand drawn assets from the heart, and ill play the life out of that game and itll feel like a AAA title to me the whole time, an A-rank cookie cutter game thats just been following the trends could release the same day i start playing it and ill stick to it because it has Heart and passion. So my thanks to Gavin for putting his heart into it, you had a vision and you made it happen with a personal touch to it as well! thats true craftsmanship. cheer man!

    @ronentai5950@ronentai59504 ай бұрын
  • I'm currently using Unity and it's good to know I can switch to Unreal and still not need to code.

    @senbujohns4489@senbujohns44894 ай бұрын
  • Super talk that is appliable to other domain of development too.

    @lufenmartofilia5804@lufenmartofilia58044 ай бұрын
  • Should expand what you said here and make it a shirt "There are a million ways to do something, but only one way you do it"

    @dagarath@dagarath4 ай бұрын
  • That was really interesting, but my focus was on that door. Bro must be living in a rough neighbourhood 😂

    @fifski@fifski3 ай бұрын
  • I like one of the dev dudes door all barricaded behind him lmao

    @jeremyschiesser7086@jeremyschiesser7086Ай бұрын
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