The muon-powered, universe-bifurcating, random number machine

2020 ж. 5 Қаң.
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This video has been 4 years in the making… In undergrad I started work on a random number generator that used a geiger tube to generate random pulses and a nixie as the primary display (here's the ancient "it almost works" video: • Random Box Preview ). Unfortunately, I couldn't prove it was actually working back then because I couldn't make the geiger tick faster with the test alpha source I had (alpha particles get blocked super-easily). I rebuilt the thing this past summer, and FINALLY got to making the video! I hope you enjoy it!
If you're interested, here's a nice relatively-plain-English summary of the many-worlds-hypothesis (Rick and Morty) and it mentions the competing Copenhagen interpretation (Schrodinger's cat).
www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/manywor...
#Random #Physics #Maker
Music in this video:
I Dunno by grapes is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (creativecommons.org/licenses/...)
ccmixter.org/files/grapes/16626
Images in this video:
Rick and Morty from Rick and Morty on Adult Swim
1925 Model T from ModelTMitch
The Rocinante from The Expanse on Syfy/Amazon Prime

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  • Ah, but the numbers rolled in this video are no longer random, because they were recorded and will come out the same every time now.

    @matthewgilbie4087@matthewgilbie40872 жыл бұрын
    • They are what defines this branch from different ones though

      @Rotem_S@Rotem_S2 жыл бұрын
    • @@Rotem_S nothing defines any branch from any other; everything is completely random to an infinite degree. In this way, everything is the same. In an infinite amount of trials, something unlikely will happen the same amount of times as something likely. It’s like an infinite number of $20 bills and $1 bills.

      @chalkeater1427@chalkeater14272 жыл бұрын
    • @@chalkeater1427 What kind of chalk do you like to eat? I like the blue kind

      @scrambledmandible@scrambledmandible2 жыл бұрын
    • @@scrambledmandible Personally, the white ones are better. My family thinks it's cocaine when it's actually chalk.

      @Fidder492@Fidder4922 жыл бұрын
    • true...but only in OUR universe ;)

      @dimosk7389@dimosk73892 жыл бұрын
  • It's okay to admit you built a thing to show all your quantum physics memes.

    @Monkeyshaman@Monkeyshaman2 жыл бұрын
    • I respect the flex though. Most couldn’t care less how things work and exist.

      @liggerstuxin1@liggerstuxin12 жыл бұрын
    • is it really possible to show all possible quantum physics memes?

      @crazydog3307@crazydog33072 жыл бұрын
    • @@crazydog3307 The device may be universe bifurcating. So maybe he did in other universes.

      @spacedoohicky@spacedoohicky2 жыл бұрын
    • 1000th like

      @gama5942@gama59422 жыл бұрын
    • @@gama5942 to me it is tuesday.

      @Monkeyshaman@Monkeyshaman2 жыл бұрын
  • Him just punching random numbers into a calculator, getting a syntax error, and continuing to punch random numbers sped up is way funnier than it should have been

    @melody_florum@melody_florum2 жыл бұрын
  • Q: How do you make a truly random number generator? A: Bombard a planet with sunlight for billions of years.

    @niemand262@niemand2622 жыл бұрын
    • technically my dude, it'd be mostly star light or black hole radiation actually. :nerdface:

      @mrspeedrunwastaken1348@mrspeedrunwastaken13482 жыл бұрын
    • @@mrspeedrunwastaken1348 i believe he is talking about sunlight which birthed life on the planet, and in turn birthed random number generator - generating humans :)

      @shoof_5839@shoof_58392 жыл бұрын
    • every planet gets bombarded with sunlight lmao

      @billyumbraskey8135@billyumbraskey81352 жыл бұрын
    • @@billyumbraskey8135 I invite you to try and prove there aren't teslas on every planet near a star.

      @niemand262@niemand2622 жыл бұрын
    • Technicaly speaking there is no true random, it may be unfathomable to be able to predict the outcome of the response, but it is still technicaly possible. Also humans aren't random either, every action you take can be predetermined, and could be predetermined from the beginning of time. With enough computing power you could predict the end of the universe and everything that happened during the universe, from the moment the universe began with 100% accuracy, because physics is absolute, and every reaction and interaction that occurs is bound by those same physics Edit: I've finished watching the video and I've found that he covers exactly what I'm talking about here, however I find that the explination given doesn't make much sense. Now I would love to explain why but im not typing out a 3 page essay in a comment reply section, so ill just leave it at feel free to ignore this message.

      @mutantcube1737@mutantcube17372 жыл бұрын
  • Make another one that just toggles between 0 and 1 (Randomly) and label it "Schrodinger's Vegan Cat".

    @piousminion7822@piousminion78223 жыл бұрын
    • Lol.....Im sure PETA would like that version

      @ryuguy032197@ryuguy0321973 жыл бұрын
    • Then finally make one that cycles through only the number zero for full zen mode random number generation.

      @Asdayasman@Asdayasman2 жыл бұрын
    • Could you explain that please? I don't get it.

      @MJFallout@MJFallout2 жыл бұрын
    • @@MJFallout After opening the box, the Schrodinger's Cat experiment has two possible outputs, dead (0) and alive (1). This guy suggests to do one machine like the one of the video, but that randomly chose between 0 and 1, making it be in essence a Schrodinger's Cat that don't use a cat, wich make it vegan.

      @draghettis6524@draghettis65242 жыл бұрын
    • @@draghettis6524 Oh, thx! catfree is the vegan option, got it.

      @MJFallout@MJFallout2 жыл бұрын
  • Props for using no Arduino (or any microcontroller at all)

    @Garbaz@Garbaz4 жыл бұрын
    • *made by the discrete component gang

      @AlphaPhoenixChannel@AlphaPhoenixChannel4 жыл бұрын
    • *relearns what a gated IC is* _y-yes._

      @Monkeyshaman@Monkeyshaman2 жыл бұрын
    • Well what's wrong with microcontrollers?

      @vikingursigurdsson@vikingursigurdsson2 жыл бұрын
    • @@vikingursigurdsson Nothing, really. They're just so ubiquotous in DIY electronics projects on KZhead these days that it's nice to see a project that doesn't use one.

      @annaw.1951@annaw.19512 жыл бұрын
    • @@annaw.1951 Thats why I like ben eaters 8-bit breadboard computer project a lot.

      @matthewe3813@matthewe38132 жыл бұрын
  • I believe my local supermarket uses this process to decide where and when to place products.

    @himselfe@himselfe2 жыл бұрын
    • They actually put the "staple foods" (i.e. bread, milk, eggs, sugar, etc.) as far away from each other as possible, so that you spend more time looking at stuff you wouldn't normally buy, so that you're more likely to buy more stuff. This is what causes you to go to the supermarket "just to grab a loaf of bread" and come back with a trunk full of groceries.

      @mrmurpleqwerty4838@mrmurpleqwerty48382 жыл бұрын
  • "Einstein would roll over in his grave. Not only does god play dice, the dice are loaded."

    @MultiSdgsg@MultiSdgsg2 жыл бұрын
    • Randomness is an illusion imo. It is merely us unable to predict something so meticulous and, small I guess. De Broglie mechanics (or pilot-wave theory? I have to verify my sources and names) explain quantum mechanics without randomness.

      @yimoawanardo@yimoawanardo2 жыл бұрын
    • @@yimoawanardo There is no true randomness since the randomness we perceive in the universe is based on a set of strict rules called physics. True randomness has no limits and no restrictions, meaning it doesn't exist.

      @rithvikmuthyalapati9754@rithvikmuthyalapati97542 жыл бұрын
    • @@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 quantum physics:

      @dane1382@dane13822 жыл бұрын
    • @@yimoawanardo you should really take a look at Sabine Hosenfelder channel if you haven't already. She kinda recently did a vid on pilot wave theory and some of its limitations

      @franciscobohm1699@franciscobohm16992 жыл бұрын
    • Nice civ alpha centauri references

      @maciejw1263@maciejw12632 жыл бұрын
  • Honestly, it was nice to see a Nixie in a project that WASN'T a clock.

    @Beateau@Beateau2 жыл бұрын
    • So random 🙃😉

      @jamescollier3@jamescollier32 жыл бұрын
    • Sweet right? Well time to go make a nixie clock/watch

      @midgetman4206@midgetman42062 жыл бұрын
    • Actually that was a clock that shows the time when a muon hits the tube

      @mr.0x373@mr.0x3732 жыл бұрын
    • @@mr.0x373 only one digit

      @official-obama@official-obama2 жыл бұрын
    • @@official-obama well, 10 seconds instead of the regular 12 hours of the round clock, but it still goes round, just many more times in unnamed and unfollowed cycles

      @philb8437@philb84372 жыл бұрын
  • If you made more of these, I would totally buy one.

    @specific_pseudonym@specific_pseudonym4 жыл бұрын
    • How much would you pay for it?

      @TheOpticalFreak@TheOpticalFreak2 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheOpticalFreak quamtum amount of money

      @iIiWARHEADiIi@iIiWARHEADiIi2 жыл бұрын
    • @@iIiWARHEADiIi was that a joke?!

      @TheOpticalFreak@TheOpticalFreak2 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheOpticalFreak yes.

      @iIiWARHEADiIi@iIiWARHEADiIi2 жыл бұрын
    • thrice the price to make it

      @notquitehadouken@notquitehadouken2 жыл бұрын
  • It could be a prototype for Divergence meter. May the choice of steins gate be with you. El Psy Congroo.

    @satyajeetjena6758@satyajeetjena67582 жыл бұрын
    • This is definitely a Beta worldline

      @fgvcosmic6752@fgvcosmic67522 жыл бұрын
    • Ah yes, this is me. It seems that the organisation is at it again. Don't worry though, I already my move to. This is all the choice of Steins;gate. El Psy Congrooooo

      @fwa8590@fwa85902 жыл бұрын
    • i am mad scientist

      @rimmertf@rimmertf2 жыл бұрын
    • A divergence meter would require a baseline reading. You would need many gravity sensors.

      @anameaname2042@anameaname20422 жыл бұрын
    • My first thought as well

      @TheJunky228@TheJunky2282 жыл бұрын
  • Everyone ever: True randomness is literally impossible. Fact. Quantum Physics: lol hold my beer/not beer 😂

    @darkmetaOFFICIAL@darkmetaOFFICIAL2 жыл бұрын
    • it can also be both in quantum physics

      @errorninja1019@errorninja10192 жыл бұрын
    • This isn't true random

      @doctornobody6845@doctornobody68452 жыл бұрын
    • @@doctornobody6845 ?

      @darkmetaOFFICIAL@darkmetaOFFICIAL2 жыл бұрын
    • @@doctornobody6845 how come

      @darkmetaOFFICIAL@darkmetaOFFICIAL2 жыл бұрын
    • Shoulda been written as "hold my |beer> + |no beer>" lol

      @aloysiuskurnia7643@aloysiuskurnia76432 жыл бұрын
  • I have to say that I love everything about this project. The graphics around the box telling the story of what's going on inside are double plus good.

    @mjrippe@mjrippe4 жыл бұрын
    • 36 years later and some are still using those adjective forms

      @OH0PO@OH0PO3 жыл бұрын
    • what does newspeak have to do with all this? :D

      @Gunth0r@Gunth0r3 жыл бұрын
  • Nice Video, haha didn't expect the multiverse editing, that was fun to watch.

    @sangeethav1247@sangeethav12474 жыл бұрын
    • I certainly had more fun watching it then my graphics card had trying to encode it xD

      @AlphaPhoenixChannel@AlphaPhoenixChannel4 жыл бұрын
    • There's only supposed to be one dot on the screen or something?

      @jameswalker199@jameswalker1993 жыл бұрын
    • @@jameswalker199 "Oh, crap, are you kidding me? Two dots? This never needs to be more than one dot. The two of you made us uncertain!"

      @emanu1674@emanu16742 жыл бұрын
  • "The ground is radioactive!" "The sky is radioactive, too!" AAAAHHAHAHAAHHAHAAA

    @thatoneguyonurleft5338@thatoneguyonurleft53382 жыл бұрын
  • 13:20 "using this mill feels like overkill for this project" - guy using the properties of quantum physics to make a random number generator

    @axaide4210@axaide42102 жыл бұрын
    • Best comment today

      @isaactrockman4417@isaactrockman44172 жыл бұрын
  • Personally I do not subscribe to the many worlds interpretation but I did subscribe to your channel.

    @KlaasDeforche@KlaasDeforche3 жыл бұрын
    • Hahahahaha thanks! (Yeah it seems kinda weird to me too but it makes for great sci-fi when you ignore like ALL of the details...)

      @AlphaPhoenixChannel@AlphaPhoenixChannel3 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah it defies thermodynamics, creating a second universe out of nothing nah, Copenhagen interpretation for me

      @matthewcahill4475@matthewcahill44752 жыл бұрын
    • I hold onto the pilot wave. I know it's having _little bit_ of problems currently but it makes most sense to my human mind and _obviously_ I am the center of the universe so this conclusion is only logical. lol

      @alkestos@alkestos2 жыл бұрын
    • Which means you didn't subscribe in the other half of the universes :p

      @lollertoaster@lollertoaster2 жыл бұрын
    • There's a world where you both subscribe to the many worlds theory, and didn't subscribe to the channel.

      @knaveHearted@knaveHearted2 жыл бұрын
  • Admit it, you just unplugged the detector to get the one without any numbers getting picked for a long time

    @matthewhubka6350@matthewhubka63502 жыл бұрын
    • shhh

      @nickkonkle541@nickkonkle5412 жыл бұрын
    • Shhh

      @ahuman2533@ahuman2533 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ahuman2533 shhhh

      @idontwantahandlethough@idontwantahandlethough Жыл бұрын
  • Fun fact, you can also call an RDRAND instruction on an Intel cpu made after 2012. It uses thermal noise in the chip to produce a true random number.

    @someusername121@someusername1212 жыл бұрын
  • Imagine rolling up to your dnd game with this

    @Steph.98114@Steph.981142 жыл бұрын
  • "I swear if this thing doesn't have a nixie tu- YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES"

    @thelegend8570@thelegend85702 жыл бұрын
  • You should try to build a device driver that integrate this device into your computer as /dev/random

    @EgnachHelton@EgnachHelton2 жыл бұрын
    • But keep around the nixie tube, just for fun.

      @12-343@12-3432 жыл бұрын
    • This device I don't think can serve as /dev/random without some work. Need consant source of numbers at any time, it cannot afford to wait seconds between requests - what do you do if you need /dev/random 13,000 times this second, 4,000 next second, etc?

      @kiraPh1234k@kiraPh1234k2 жыл бұрын
    • @@kiraPh1234k All you need to do is scale up the area of it. The more area, the more muons you can detect

      @nikkiofthevalley@nikkiofthevalley2 жыл бұрын
    • @@kiraPh1234k just have it backlog a bunch of random numbers and save those number for future use. As one is referenced, toss it away. Place a piece of radioactive material next to the device to crank out random numbers faster.

      @stagger9660@stagger96602 жыл бұрын
    • believe it or not this actually exists commercially, it's called an HRNG and there are many types using many quantum random process

      @unflexian@unflexian Жыл бұрын
  • Very smooth execution and presentation. Phenomenal job with putting the random number generator together! If you could make a double nixie tube system, I’m convinced there are some dedicated D&D players that would demand one of these elegant quantum systems to make their game proper.🤓

    @adamstolen4965@adamstolen49652 жыл бұрын
    • i hate to admit it.. but yeah that was my idea aswell, rolling up to a d&d game with one of these, preferable with: 1. more lights, preferably different ones with all the common dice numbers plus a d2 or some way to configure it into such 2. loads of buttons and switches like oh if i switch over this here this is a d6, if i switch those 2 aswell its a d100 but if i only switch those 2 its a d10

      @vhaelen326@vhaelen326 Жыл бұрын
    • This was on my mind the whole time while i was watching (and of course i’m a dungeon master)

      @DavidZMediaisAwesome@DavidZMediaisAwesome Жыл бұрын
  • I want one of these. Always been bugged how nothing in computers or physical objects that you can hold can be considered “true randomness”

    @PretzelBS@PretzelBS2 жыл бұрын
  • Could you plllllleeeeeaasssseeee show us how to make one? I'd really enjoy making this

    @lukabinks1388@lukabinks13884 жыл бұрын
    • Well.... I mean, make a tube with a thin wire in it, vacuum it, maybe slap a different gas in it, I don't know, wire that through to the circuitry shown in the video, make a container for it, set the outputs, and uh... work yourself to death trying to figure out what you actually need to do.

      @Leekodot15@Leekodot152 жыл бұрын
    • Just buy Geiger tube and some sort of counter with the external triger and reset

      @iIiWARHEADiIi@iIiWARHEADiIi2 жыл бұрын
  • So... hypothetically, if I asked to purchase this box off of you, how much would you charge + shipping? Also, how would you go about making a D20 version?

    @RSHastingsIV@RSHastingsIV3 жыл бұрын
    • You could have the number counter count up to 20 instead of 9 and have 2 tubes instead of the 1 the circuitry isn't that hard its pretty cool to think of possibly having a toggle to chose what the highest number could be and then beable to toggle between diffrent standard dice

      @Randy14512@Randy145122 жыл бұрын
    • MTG?

      @Sick1982@Sick19822 жыл бұрын
    • Ah, I found the ttrpger. I also would like one. Or 8. In the d2, d4, d6, d8, d10, d100, d12, and d20 type. I knew my quest for perfect dice was not over.

      @Xeth247@Xeth2472 жыл бұрын
  • When the players you DM keep fudging their dice rolls:

    @word6344@word63442 жыл бұрын
  • The visuals paired with your explainations are so well thought out! Absolutely love the parallel universes part

    @CyanStudios24@CyanStudios242 жыл бұрын
  • I found you with the "tiniest KZhead plaque" video. Glad I stuck around! Really looking forward to what you have to show, man. GREAT editing, and I can really tell you put your heart into your videos. I'll be here for the long-run :)

    @OMJames@OMJames4 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! Editing can be a pain but it's also a pile of fun! I love when I get to release a new project - next one shouldn't be too far out. I'm literally right now making final renders out of matlab for a Snake-playing AI... (tell your friends) =D

      @AlphaPhoenixChannel@AlphaPhoenixChannel4 жыл бұрын
  • Please please please post the schematics and plans for this, or sell them. Id love to have one

    @Kellysg126@Kellysg1262 жыл бұрын
  • I always wondered how Okabe Rintaro could build a machine that “detects” what worldline he’s on. This it literally it. Lol

    @maximus8905@maximus89052 жыл бұрын
    • He is future gadget lab member 001, he just doesn't know it yet...

      @westonslc@westonslc2 жыл бұрын
  • You're creating new universes for as long as that machine works.

    @Rossilaz58@Rossilaz582 жыл бұрын
  • Amplification. That is an amazingly intuitive way of looking at quantum measurement that I had never considered before!

    @phyricquinn2457@phyricquinn24572 жыл бұрын
    • The next step is noticing amplification is associated with decoherence, and voila - a nice, logical (and completely rigorous, with no further axioms) reasoning behind the many worlds interpertation

      @Rotem_S@Rotem_S2 жыл бұрын
  • Alpha Phoenix is a God. He created RNGesus.

    @LogicalQ@LogicalQ2 жыл бұрын
    • Nah, he just created a vessel for him to manifest in that uses the real world instead of the computer world.

      @Leekodot15@Leekodot152 жыл бұрын
  • This is the most overengineered D10 I've ever seen

    @ThreeProphets@ThreeProphets2 жыл бұрын
  • Just discovered you, and I absolutely love the content! This is one of the most satisfying diy gizmos I’ve seen yet 😊

    @jaycobwhaley3974@jaycobwhaley39742 жыл бұрын
  • Honestly, I'd really like to see this being sold somewhere, it'd make games really interesting

    @enchantedplayer6168@enchantedplayer61682 жыл бұрын
  • I ran into your channel this afternoon your new election video. Enjoying several of the other videos now, including this one and the golf phase-plane!

    @unusedTV@unusedTV2 жыл бұрын
  • This is absolutely amazing. I subscribed after watching some other videos already but after this one I can't understand why you don't have more subscribers!

    @taylankammer@taylankammer2 жыл бұрын
  • found your channel on a KZhead suggestion and I have been enjoying your videos for the past few days. I think you'll hit 1million subs in no time.

    @ZeroEight@ZeroEight2 жыл бұрын
  • Such a project! And extremely well documented. Love this!

    @MichaelRuppe@MichaelRuppe3 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! This one was literally years in the making! (Granted shelved for most of that time)

      @AlphaPhoenixChannel@AlphaPhoenixChannel3 жыл бұрын
  • I think a fix to the slight expected-ness of re-starting the clock at the previous value it was on is to run 2 clocks. When a trigger happens on the first clock as normal, The first number is shown as a value, and the display is frozen, while a 2nd clock is running in the background, the 2nd trigger pauses the 2nd clock for a "random" period of time, based on which value the 2nd clock lands on. Once the 2nd clock unfreezes, the first clock is set to sync with the value of the 2nd clock. And then you wait for the first clock to trigger again. (If this doesnt work, because my brain isn't 100% sure it conceptually works, i think some heuristic of re-syncing the clocks to each other on every other trigger or something might also work. It's hard to mentally track how the random triggering of everything affects the "randomness")

    @Riokaii@Riokaii2 жыл бұрын
    • Could just use high voltage latch that gets triggered locking the number an clock just keeps running just not Seen till reset

      @alextaylor9746@alextaylor97462 жыл бұрын
  • Just discovered this channel, and I’ve gotta say, this is crazy stuff to even think about.

    @PotatoBoiYT@PotatoBoiYT2 жыл бұрын
  • I need to apologize (to you and the almighty algorithm) because I've seen this video in my feed multiple times in the past but not clicked it. I finally clicked on your Veritasium response a while ago and I'm now watching a bunch of your videos, and they're all fantastic! Wish I had done so sooner.

    @chicken_punk_pie@chicken_punk_pie2 жыл бұрын
  • Nicely done, I’ve always pondered the use of a Geiger counter as a random number generator. In fact I’ve got a tube just like your one in my parts box in a breadboard boost converter circuit that may or may not have experienced one too many exciting discharges. As for your use of a nixie tube with an upside-down 2 as a 5, I like your style.

    @Scrogan@Scrogan4 жыл бұрын
    • The SBM-20 was an upgrade from some really really tiny glass geiger tube I started with a few years ago. Other than making some toasty arcs inside when I got the test source too close to it, it's a great tube! I think I may have too little resistance in series or something to get very high countrates... As for the upside-down numbers, what can I say but I bought the cheapest tubes I could get!

      @AlphaPhoenixChannel@AlphaPhoenixChannel4 жыл бұрын
    • AlphaPhoenix Different GM tubes have different gains or counts/area/second or whatever the metric is. There was a website I found a year or two ago when searching for a comparison between tubes that comprehensively measured a dozen or two of the tubes with alpha, beta, and gamma sources, both solid can and end-window tubes, chances are you’ve also stumbled across it. Really great resource, but I’m the end cost becomes the major factor when choosing, at least for me. I initially picked up the tiny SBM-21 as it was the cheapest GM tube on eBay, but I tried to solder a wire to it and it turns out that the plug in the end to keep the inside at low pressure melted at under 300C, so that ruined that tube. So I bought an SBM-20, as the ends of it perfectly fit a standard fuse holder bracket. The positive end of the SBM-21 is too small for any common size of fuse holder I know of, so I’ve no clue how it’s supposed to be held. I assume you’re also using fuse brackets yourself. As far as nixies go, a lot of the surplus ones around today are of soviet origin, where cutting costs by using the same digit for a 2 and 5 was somewhat common. I personally quite like this, it gives the display a character not found on other displays. I haven’t began a foray into the realm of nixies just yet, but when I do I plan on going for tubes which have symbol versions, e.g. Ω, V, A, Hz, etc. I’m also considering some of those obscure panel-mount electroluminescent displays, since they can be used for alphanumeric applications. From what I’ve seen on Applied Science’s channel, multiplexing EL displays is quite the task.

      @Scrogan@Scrogan4 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah inside the lasercut wood humps on top of the box I've got some bent-up fuse holders I had to be very careful to not let touch any of the screws I use to hold it together lest I zap myself with 400V... I have also noticed that nearly all ebay vacuum tubes seem to come from former soviet states. Kinda interesting

      @AlphaPhoenixChannel@AlphaPhoenixChannel4 жыл бұрын
  • As a designer of random number generators of the sort you find in your CPU, that's a not-very-good random number generator. If you sample fast enough, you will get highly serially correlated data since it's an up-counter with a partially random clock. You use the term "Truly Random" when you should say "Non deterministic". To get to full randomness (1 bit of entropy per bit of data) you need to study up on entropy extractor theory. All the non-determinism in normal electrical RNGs come from quantum effects that lead to electrical noise. So there's nothing particularly special about a Geiger counter based RNG.

    @davidjohnston4240@davidjohnston42402 жыл бұрын
    • True random is non-deterministic. This is still pseudo-random.

      @jayjasespud@jayjasespud2 жыл бұрын
    • ​@jayjasespud the only right answer in this whole room of pseudo intellectuals

      @LogicalFindings@LogicalFindings2 күн бұрын
    • @@jayjasespud The term "True Random" is used differently by different people. In all cases it seems to mean nondeterministic but for some it means full entropy and others it does not. Since cryptographically secure, nondeterministic, deterministic, full entropy, partially entropic and other terms like that are vey well defined and accurately define the properties of an RNG, poorly defined terms that don't really match what they mean like PRNG and True Random should be avoided if you want to make your words unambiguous.

      @davidjohnston4240@davidjohnston42402 күн бұрын
  • What a fun, instructive and inspiring video! Great stuff and very much appreciate all the hard work that went into it.

    @i18nGuy@i18nGuy5 ай бұрын
  • once again your presentations, youth, excitement, enthusiasm keep me wanting more and more, ty

    @dandaigle4546@dandaigle4546 Жыл бұрын
  • Always a pleasure to watch a new video from you. Thank you very much and happy New Year!

    @sligovolts@sligovolts4 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! Happy New Year!

      @AlphaPhoenixChannel@AlphaPhoenixChannel4 жыл бұрын
  • I love that quantum mechanics can, in a way, be explained with math or philosophy interchangeably. It's a deliciously counterintuitive intersection of thinking.

    @_badsine_@_badsine_4 жыл бұрын
    • I’d say it can only be adequately described (ie. predicted) with math. Philosophy is just the approximate interpretation from a human brain. When you try to wedge something that’s pure math into everyday life, it just doesn’t work...

      @AlphaPhoenixChannel@AlphaPhoenixChannel4 жыл бұрын
    • I'd say more - Modern Physics in general is a window into incomprehensible through mathematics. The fact that humanity can formulate and manipulate that which it cannot understand is insane.

      @mikhailmikhailov8781@mikhailmikhailov87814 жыл бұрын
    • @@AlphaPhoenixChannel Man, I wish Philosophy was actually useful. I find this kinda stuff extremely interesting, and I can _kinda_ swallow it, but I’m more talented for philosophical thoughts.

      @officersoulknight6321@officersoulknight63212 жыл бұрын
    • @@officersoulknight6321 Philosophy is useful, just not in a modern sense. Philosophy can be the difference between a life spent in contentment and a life spent in dread. But unfortunately, the modern definition of "useful" is "makes corporations more money", so the viability of important human practices like art and philosophy is tanking at the moment.

      @kingcrimson4133@kingcrimson41332 жыл бұрын
  • The many-worlds you sequence was very satisfying to watch, thank you.

    @TheRmbomo@TheRmbomo2 жыл бұрын
  • I did enjoy this! And I'm glad to have discovered your channel!

    @cantubloodaxe768@cantubloodaxe7682 жыл бұрын
  • Perfect for my D&D games.

    @SollowP@SollowP2 жыл бұрын
  • I kind of want a version that cycles between 1 and 20. If we can randomise a D10, we can randomise a D20 as well.

    @t.487@t.4872 жыл бұрын
  • "your so predictable" "PREDICT THIS" *builds a muon powered random number machine*

    @elisanovelo@elisanovelo2 жыл бұрын
  • i love this channel its under rated you explain everything so well :)

    @duality4y@duality4y2 жыл бұрын
  • Is this how Okabe built the divergence meter in Steins;gate?

    @fwa8590@fwa85902 жыл бұрын
    • was looking for the Stein's Gate reference.

      @Cpruett@Cpruett2 жыл бұрын
  • just keep going, these worth million views

    @rajshakya2854@rajshakya28543 жыл бұрын
  • This channel deserves infinitely many more views

    @alejrandom6592@alejrandom65922 жыл бұрын
  • just stumbed onto yoru video, love your style, effort and presentation ! subscribed !

    @baddspella@baddspella2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video, please post stats about randomness of the device

    @PabloRomanelli@PabloRomanelli3 жыл бұрын
  • I've made something similar before as well, after I saw a video on random numbers on numberphile. I used a small piece of uranium ore as my true randomness source instead of cosmic rays. I also used a micro to do some more complex functions. Basically, every time the box gets booted up, the micro "calibrates" and measures the number of counts for a few minutes. After that, every minute, the number of counts in the past minute is subtracted from the calibration value. This result is then used as a seed for a pseudorandom number algorithm. This allows for an arbitriary range of random numbers. I hope it also serves to smooth out the bell curve and generate a more even statistical distribution, not sure about that though.

    @danielhe8695@danielhe86952 жыл бұрын
  • The parallel universe part got me subscribed. Awesome editing.

    @jlong613@jlong6132 жыл бұрын
  • This is sooo fricking cool. Glad I discovered this channel.

    @yteicosf1103@yteicosf11032 жыл бұрын
  • Dice are decently chaotic. I think I'll stick with dice for dnd.

    @gljames24@gljames242 жыл бұрын
    • this one is better though

      @Ensign_games@Ensign_games2 жыл бұрын
    • Dice are lawful neutral, change my mind

      @PolarDoc22@PolarDoc222 жыл бұрын
  • Where's the schematic for this?

    @tubeDude48@tubeDude484 жыл бұрын
  • Really loved your intro! Such a high quality

    @didxogns1@didxogns12 жыл бұрын
  • Well done. This video really made me think. The quantum made visible (in a way) and a reference to The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy...Solid Gold.

    @Gunny1971@Gunny19712 жыл бұрын
  • you should find a company to make and sell these! I want one that has multiple Nixie tubes that each would have a different die value, so you have your full set of polyhedrals displayed ( a d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, d20, and d% or d100).

    @GTRichardson7@GTRichardson72 жыл бұрын
  • 7:40 talking about total randomness, and the device gives 8-9 and then again 8-9...spooky

    @dimosk7389@dimosk73892 жыл бұрын
    • @Michael Darrow ye i understand that. it was just a joke ;)

      @dimosk7389@dimosk73892 жыл бұрын
    • I noticed that too, and I don't understand. Was that indeed random that it did exactly the same thing twice?

      @satan.is.my.copilot@satan.is.my.copilot Жыл бұрын
    • @@satan.is.my.copilot i guess it is. if we are talking about total randomness, there is nothing that prevents the number 8 for example, to randomly pop 10 times in a row. or the number 5555555555 to exist somewhere in the Pi number

      @dimosk7389@dimosk7389 Жыл бұрын
  • It's quite lame that your channel doesn't have millions of subs. It's brilliant!

    @ojkolsrud1@ojkolsrud12 жыл бұрын
  • i love a good pure random sequence. there was an urban legend that the random number sequence used in Doom's source code was generated using a nuclear generator. probably my favorite thing is using nuclear random sequences in a completely deterministic way. That is, you get the exact same number sequence each time, but the sequence follows no pattern at all. this can be incredibly useful for various things. it is like seeding your PRNG with 0 each time you use it, but on steroids

    @Gunbudder@Gunbudder2 жыл бұрын
  • Make it into a Linux true random device

    @BLUYES422@BLUYES4223 жыл бұрын
    • I was thinking of that too... Why aren't there ic package versions of this device out there for hardware rng? They'd be pretty great for crypto stuff

      @akaHarvesteR@akaHarvesteR3 жыл бұрын
    • @@akaHarvesteR there absolutely are! Like two months ago I read about a laser chip thing which could generate tens of kilobytes of randomness per second - in consumer computers the operator has enough entropy to make these unecessary though (just use things like mouse positions to seed a CSPRNG)

      @Rotem_S@Rotem_S2 жыл бұрын
  • That was rad. Nice work. Now to go review "From Eternity to Here" to make sure I understood the Many Worlds hypothesis (hint: I didn't; I don't).

    @DanHoke@DanHoke3 жыл бұрын
  • The fact you used a nixie tube for this is incredible.

    @melody3741@melody37413 ай бұрын
  • 6:25 The Expanse reference is what earned my like, love it

    @possiblynova@possiblynova2 жыл бұрын
  • "SOON"* unless I am just filing to see the video in question, you are really milking that asterisk for all it is worth at this point I think. Awesome work though, only recently found your channel, but you do awesome work.

    @TrabberShir@TrabberShir2 жыл бұрын
    • Man well nobody watched this video when it was new - there are a bunch of follow-ups I passed on cause nobody cared and making another video after the project was “done” wasn’t nearly as interesting. It’s a whole lot more worthwhile now that KZhead is showing millions of people my thumbnails out of the blue!

      @AlphaPhoenixChannel@AlphaPhoenixChannel2 жыл бұрын
    • @@AlphaPhoenixChannel My best guess is youtube hooked themselves up with a quantum computer XD

      @the.gamer112@the.gamer1122 жыл бұрын
  • Anyone interested in the muon nonsense should check out The Thought Emporium's very recent video on the subject.

    @Asdayasman@Asdayasman2 жыл бұрын
    • agreed

      @TheAechBomb@TheAechBomb2 жыл бұрын
  • ok wtf.. that was the most interesting vid i saw on yt in a long time.. u smart.. i like that.. and i didnt actually skip to the end to see the finished product.. nice presentation.. very well done..

    @berryerpacic9995@berryerpacic99952 жыл бұрын
  • your editing in this is so cool!!

    @QazNotQuaz@QazNotQuaz2 жыл бұрын
  • I think a great improvement for this would be to add some kind of memory component. Then, when a random pulse is detected, instead of displaying a value on the display, store the value in memory (or store the time between detections, since that's where the randomness comes from). Afterwards, a user can just press a button and the device will display the oldest stored value and delete it from memory. This can be made more or less complicated as needed, for example by making a system that stores lots of values and can also recall previous random values instead of deleting them, or random numbers for specific dice types (like d6, d8, d20 or others).

    @tailez606@tailez6062 жыл бұрын
  • I truly want upgraded version. Connection to computer, ability to change the range of numbers, and program that allows you to roll any dice easily. Not sure if possible, but connection to discord bot? Then nobody could say that the "random generator hates them", becouse that would just be "universe hates them".

    @ironbeard4627@ironbeard46272 жыл бұрын
  • That casual slow mo scene in the beginning was very cool. I was not ready

    @kongqianfu@kongqianfu2 жыл бұрын
  • Wow, just, wow, lovely project! This was excellent!

    @seb612schuth@seb612schuth2 жыл бұрын
  • You play with that devil's machine long enough - TVA will come for you and they prune you, just like every other unwanted VARIANT

    @mojeimja@mojeimja2 жыл бұрын
  • I had this idea and I'm so glad i found this video. You could use this box to create a name for each universe, use it to identify nearby universes. You would have to have the box and result cause something do the universes arent just copies with different names so i would suggest using an output in a search engine and finding the first link that comes up, then find its creator get incontact, ask them what their job is and try to visit it. That should make a reliably random output, with travel cost, time, location and experience varying between the copies of the universe.

    @humanperson2375@humanperson23752 жыл бұрын
  • I love your channel. It's also nice seeing some crystalography because i liked it a lot in high school.

    @wiktormazur7027@wiktormazur70272 жыл бұрын
  • When I was in the military I proposed a setup for random number generator that used subatomic particals to pick a randomly selected number that was then used to pick a random number of algorithms for a second number to be run through and then that will be your result the order of the algorithms could be determined randomly along with the starting algorithm and you could also make it repeat any number of times you want at random and the whole idea was to introduce as much difficulty as possible to determining the final value and what might have made the whole thing possible is that you could possibly just get it to work on a smartphone of the time.

    @jedstanaland2897@jedstanaland28972 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing high quality content. You are going places!

    @costynvd@costynvd2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video! Love your style of presentation :D

    @qbasic16@qbasic162 жыл бұрын
  • Damn you account is growing fast :) *me being happy for you cause your videos are great :)

    @felge2@felge22 жыл бұрын
  • Great video, great explanation and a supercool looking random number generator. Would love to have one!

    @SannevanSchie@SannevanSchie2 жыл бұрын
  • Loved the many world video edit lol, really interesting project Thanks!

    @austindale3129@austindale31292 жыл бұрын
  • The numbers rolled on the die may very well be truly random as there may well be quantum level effects acting on it, which mean that it might land on a different number if it was rewound to the same starting conditions.

    @martinwood744@martinwood7442 жыл бұрын
  • I like that you addressed the uncertainty between if the process is truly "random" and "unpredictable", or if we just do not have the scientific knowledge required to predict it accurately yet. It vexes me that the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics is tacitly assumed to be the "correct" interpretation, even though there are alternatives that are at least arguably at least equally as compelling such as De Broglie-Bohm.

    @Leo99929@Leo999292 жыл бұрын
  • that's a really neat project, I like that you put some effort into the look of the box too. also appreciate the 555 :p

    @brazni@brazni2 жыл бұрын
  • +5 internets for using the Rocinante...!! Love your videos, and have since you had like 200 subscribers!! Never would have thought material science could be so interesting, and now I can't stop watching. Thank you!

    @MichalRysanek@MichalRysanek Жыл бұрын
  • Your content is amazing, please keep it up!

    @sigma4401@sigma44012 жыл бұрын
  • Just a random (ah.. yeah) thought - You could use 2 (or more) events to set the clock frequency, then a another to start and stop the counter, if you wanted to reduce the averaging of time between muon events as a way of predicting the next event. Start at random a counter clock whose period is determined at random, then stop it at random. When recycled, there would be no way to predict the next event especially if you run the clock in the mhz range. You could even use several GM tubes and select the tubes used for the events based on a previous muon event. If you wanted a bigger more elaborate randomizer model. I've been a student of random since 1977 when I built my 1st big computer, a 6502 machine overclocked to 2mhz. True random is much harder than most people realize, but this is one of the better method I've seen. Cool too, using natures random events as an engine. Nice project. Enjoyed the video, thanks!

    @scottmarshall6766@scottmarshall67662 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video! More about Muons! Also you should show a how to step by step video on how to build a machine. Where can your viewers buy one? Maybe you should sell them! Doesn't need to be that fancy. No need for special tube counter.

    @johngalt4657@johngalt46572 жыл бұрын
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