Comparing the budget friendly Holosun HS510C to the industry standard EOTech reflex style sight
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@deadmangreedo3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Same
@SA-xf1eb3 жыл бұрын
Me too! Clever!
@mr.nussie54262 жыл бұрын
U 2 lol ?
@zacharybrown96132 жыл бұрын
FYI: If you have Astigmatism the eotech reticle will be kinda blurry without your glasses but the holosun will be perfectly clear without glasses. I own both
@DannyDevitooo3 жыл бұрын
I second this! Told my buddy why you spend so much money on this trash optic I can’t see anything. It works for him though
@johnjpa8083 жыл бұрын
Ditto. I tried the EOtech in the store and it was fuzzy. All other red dots had mini starbursts. Haven't tried the Holosun, but purchased it online and will see.
@reelrocknrolla42513 жыл бұрын
@@reelrocknrolla4251 I'll be BUYING a Holosun 508T when they become available.
@walldogger13 жыл бұрын
I have a holosun and it's all fucked up lol. Well I have more than just astigmatism so idk.
@l3gendarylag8053 жыл бұрын
I third this. Also own both an Eotech & Holosun. Because of my eyes, the 1 Eotech quietly rests in its box and the 8 Holosuns are on the rifles. The reticle and red dot are clear AF.
@irvan36mm3 жыл бұрын
Holographic sights tends to look fuzzy if you're focused on them. You're supposed to look through them, not at them. If you stay target-focused, the reticle will appear crisp.
@SnapD243 жыл бұрын
I agree with this completely, I picked up an EXPS2 and thought it was fuzzy until I actually shot with it. No fuzziness effected me at all
@ORODRIVE3 жыл бұрын
Definitely some mind fuckery with a holographic lol it’s crazy how crisp it can look when focusing on target compared to the fuzziness of focusing on the reticle
@grantsdad1773 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to see other people who understand that lol
@Sheild_against_the_wicked5562 жыл бұрын
This.
@rmp5s2 жыл бұрын
Yep, back before my eyes went to heck, I could use one of the dots that make up the dot to get pretty darn good results. I think there were three dots, they just look like one now, 10-15 years later.
@rob.granger2 жыл бұрын
I love quality in budget. I want the best, but I am realistic. I have no plans to be the next guy in a nightvision raid in some sandbox in the middle east, and I'm sure all the nightvision I'll need in the near future will be measured in lumens and candela.
@mghegotagun3 жыл бұрын
This review is pure gold. Thank you.
@fruitfly773 жыл бұрын
I have the Holosun HS510C and I've been extremely happy with my purchase, I was able to find it on sale and couldn't pass it up. I was able to pickup a couple of the risers when they were in stock at Primary Arms and I highly recommend it if you like to have a higher ride height. I run fixed irons on my ARs and much rather have the higher 1/3 cowitness. For the $ I don't think you could go wrong with the Holosun, no it isn't battle tested like the Eotech, but for my uses I am highly satisfied with my choice. Thank you for the great video as always!
@scottamy64962 жыл бұрын
Hahhah holosun is so shit . That entire optic can go down from a drop of water on the projector . And the paralax up close is dreadful . U holosun fans are sick . This optic is 10x worst than the eotech in just about every category
@jhh6002 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review! I’ve been looking for something like this for a while now and this was perfect!
@callingallbears2 жыл бұрын
I have and love both. Love the lighter weight, battery life and the auto on mode of the Holosun and the ruggedness of the eotech
@michaelmignone58693 жыл бұрын
OK the Simpson's cut was perfect, subscribed
@deanfirnatine78143 жыл бұрын
EOTech is on an entirely different level than their competition. The biggest factor that separates it is its minimal parallax shift at 100 yards. This is where the holographic sight comes into play over a traditional LED optic.
@jacobcooper2692 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@The_Ghost9232 жыл бұрын
I have a few EOTECH EXP Holographic sights and I have both generations of the vortex Huey Holographic sight and the Vortex is just as amazing especially paired up with there 3x magnifier!! Garand Thumb did a review and called the Huey the EOTECH killer kzhead.info/sun/p9KSeNCbmoCbh30/bejne.html
@Paulsmithlvn2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Holosun is definitely giving them a run for their money. I use to own an Eotech 512 and at the time there was not any good alternatives to a holographic sight. Yes there was aimpoint, but the reticle is what I liked on the Eotech which aimpoint didn't offer. But now that I see this Holosun, I am blown away. I think it is a very good alternative and definitely competes with the Eotech and even beats it in certain categories. The price and battery life alone puts it at a very good spot compared to any Eotech.
@Immortalkalashnikov2 жыл бұрын
Well, now that there is Holosuns being used in Ukraine I think this comment aged like milk. I'm a trijicon fanboy so I can't speak too much on red dots as the MRO is ass.
@Fin.mint.2 жыл бұрын
@@Fin.mint. Holosuns being used in Ukraine doesn't change that the comment is still 1000% true. Any other red dot has parallax. That means if you aren't perfectly lined up that dot is in the wrong place and will miss long range unless you account for the distortion. Ukrainians are taking what they can get holosuns included. The elite in the military use EOTech. Your comment is ass because you don't know what you are talking about.
@BB-mt5no Жыл бұрын
You didn't point out that although the Eotech is better with night vision, the Holosun lets you run that single dot, making it just as effective I would think, since it's not drowning out your target nearly as much... assuming you're cool with just the dot anyway. Would have liked to see that with night vision. Good video, good comparison!
@RJMeix0073 жыл бұрын
If you're using either sight correctly, neither reticle will drown out your target. With these types of sights, you should be focusing on your target not the dot unless you're referring to distance shooting.
@The_Ghost9232 жыл бұрын
Except the glass on the Holosun fucking SUCKS under NV. There is no comparison for passive aiming through NV. You can tell somewhat in the video but in real life its freaking huge.
@MartinRage2 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing. GO with the 2MOA and it's all good. No one watching this needs that type of clarity anyway. It comes down to do you have an EOTECH or not. I'm team HS on this.
@id10tek2 жыл бұрын
Check out our newer Aimpoint vs Holosun video. I show the dot only under night vision. To be fair, the 510C gets dimmer than the 507 but it’s still no Eotech with dot only
@TacticalAccountants2 жыл бұрын
@@TacticalAccountants question for you. I see some sights are for 223 and some for 308 whats the difference also do you know what the best sights that are scar rated ?
@COMMANDERHAWK222 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews I've seen. Watch the whole thing.
@SA-xf1eb3 жыл бұрын
I have both a red and green Holosun HS510C and green HE515 Holosun. I got a good deal on an EOTech EXPS3 so I mounted that to my 14.5 pinned build. With my astigmatism the Holosuns are clearer to me, even with the target focus I’ve read some commenters say is needed with the EOTech. I got the EOTech for its bombproof history and for possible barter ability in SHTF. I think I’d keep my Holosuns to use because of the solar function, as batteries will eventually become hard to find (I am getting 123A rechargeables and a solar panel chargeable portable power station). I’m hoping to not need any of these. They way the world is headed you never can be too prepared.
@J.Young808 Жыл бұрын
vedi meglio con holousn pur avendo astigmatismo? che sappia io i mirini olografici dovrebbero essere più adatti per chi ha problemi di astigmatismo, quindi dovresti vedere meglio con eotech. Ma tu dici di trovarti meglio con holosun, corretto?
@MrNicknew867 ай бұрын
Do you prefer the red or green that you own?
@TheHeadman4 ай бұрын
@@TheHeadmanI was wondering the same thing, I heard the red one does not flicker as much because it uses less power than green
@MrJDaddiАй бұрын
I find the solar option to be more gimmick than practical due to it only functioning in auto brightness mode, which adjusts to the environment you're in as opposed to the target. The reticle can wash out.
@chizoramaАй бұрын
This is a really great walk through of the pros and cons of both optics. And, very non biased. It’s very hard to get opinions that aren’t trying promote one over the other. Thank you!
@schotttaylor2 жыл бұрын
You do excellent work. Great comparison. I did not realize the Holosun beat the EOTech in window size... my own experience in testing myself and multiple red dots showed that the larger window sights were always a bit faster for a multi target course of fire.
@redaethel46193 жыл бұрын
Great review. This was really educational for me. I appreciate the time and work you put into it.
@outbackeddie6 ай бұрын
Your description on how an eotech works is spot on 😂
@toxicbullet73593 жыл бұрын
That was such an excellent video... Learned alot thanks
@lenoxchew47323 жыл бұрын
This is pretty much a perfect review/comparison video. Really well done. Subscribed.
@Powers4Freedom Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Really enjoyed this type of video and hope to see more comparisons on products. Probably the most in-depth but easy to watch videos I've seen on the topic.
@outlawkaz67153 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
Extremely well done video with outcomes nicely explained and your reasonings sound, IMO. Thanks for all.
@markej48013 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
I got the Holosun for a lot of different reasons like battery life, clarity, shake wake, multiple recticles, solar power, and it's still very durable... The EOTech is just more specific for things like law enforcement, military, or someone that needs a more rugged optic..
@brianwolfgaming14523 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! Thanks. I like That you demonstrated the night vision thing so I didn’t have to take your word for it, I got to see it for myself.
@choppermagoo61542 жыл бұрын
That was a great review that covered many important details. Thank you. I was surprised by the differences between the two sights. Thanks again for the information.
@CJLiveFromTheOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome
@TacticalAccountants2 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel and your information mixed with your humor has earned you a new subscriber. I’ll be picking up the Holosun thanks to your video. I cannot justify the cost especially if the largest complaint about Holosun night vision would be solved by removing the 6moa ring and just running the dot. I’d be very interested to see the Holosun with the Streamlight TLR VLR2. Otherwise, VERY good stuff!
@wornoutshoes813 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much the green dot version would affect the night vision. Also would of like to have seen the holoson with the dot only in the night vision
@mikejochem46773 жыл бұрын
Getting back to you guys 10 months later. Just bought a Windam SRC and a Eotech 512 got an amazing deal. This has been amazing for outdoor shooting and classes. You can pick out the reticle much quicker. I have also found the Eotech has a higher level of accuracy. I get it the battery power is not as good but overall it is a better optic. I you are just shooting at an indoor range however the 510 c will suffice.
@ericshindler5829 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent review! You just gained a new subscriber!
@NovaPrime77 Жыл бұрын
So helpful! This gave me exactly what I needed to know. I really wanted to convince myself to get a EoTech for my new B&T APC9 PDW, but the battery life is a huge deal to me. I'm gonna go with a Holosun.
@johndorsey26172 жыл бұрын
Battery life only matters if you’re in a war zone imo. For any ordinary person the battery life is sufficient. Also you can store batteries in your grip or stock if you have that feature.
@sector9862 жыл бұрын
@@sector986 Even then, you're not gonna spend 1000 hours in a warzone and even if you forget to replace the batteries when its low; you'll most likely will be carrying a spare of any consumable gear on your person so it'll be piss easy to exchange the battery during combat
@wazzdawg Жыл бұрын
I just bought a Kriss Vector CRB, and I'm looking to kit it out with some 'ease of use' attachments. I was looking for some decent sights and kept seeing Holosun and Eotech pop up as contenders. Your detailed review helped me to decide which to pick, I decided on the Holosun since it seems to be just as good, and me being a budget man, had to go with the price
@user-ol9ck7ig2f3 жыл бұрын
I went with the American made Eotech 512 for my vector. The holosun doesn't take standard batteries so
@doubleutubefan5 Жыл бұрын
@@doubleutubefan5the parts still come from China 😂
@murkyturkey52389 ай бұрын
@@murkyturkey5238 still made here though. There's a lot made in China. Hard to get around but I try not to be China made when possible
@doubleutubefan59 ай бұрын
Great review, very complete, we can see extremely well the visual rendering of each viewfinder, well done to the top
@miki05073 ай бұрын
Love your sense of humor! Good job. Gets me thinking and that is hard these days...😁
@americathefree37083 жыл бұрын
This review is super awesome and helpful for those of us who want to get into night vision later but have a little bit of saving to do. I would ask this: Can you please do another video of the 510, set to just the dot under night vision? I wonder if that would obscure less of the target and make it MORE usable than with the circle dot. I understand it's never going to be Eotech-level nice because its not holographic.
@eatsshootsandleavestactica80683 жыл бұрын
Holosun has done excellent in giving the gun community the best budget options hands down. I do still believe the high $cost$ red dots are worth investing in....at least one for a primary fighting rifle, just like it may be a good idea everyone own at least one revolver, or one Glock no matter if you like them or not.
@FitnessConnect3 жыл бұрын
Not sure how $300 counts as a budget red dot
@masonhaggerty186 Жыл бұрын
@@masonhaggerty186 when price compared to what's considered "non budget" in this space, yes $300 is indeed still "budget".
@FitnessConnect Жыл бұрын
I agree 300 vs 600 yes it's a budget optic.
@bobbyb71273 ай бұрын
Very nice comparison, thanks for taking the time to do this..
@paulm74753 жыл бұрын
Hey brother, heck of a comparison vid! Incredibly helpful. Thank you!
@michaelcolorado61072 жыл бұрын
I guess if you've already spent $20k on night vision an extra $350 on the optic is trivial. Meanwhile if you don't have night vision, like most people, you get to save $200. Great review!
@himawaricopter2 жыл бұрын
20k on NVG? Lol. You can get into nvgs for under 5k if you know where to look. WP PVS14s can be found for around 3 grand
@Ammonymity17762 жыл бұрын
I mean, night vision varies from like $6k binoculars to those $40k Panoramic Night Vision goggles that the military uses.
@carbonslice81602 жыл бұрын
@@carbonslice8160 yeah, of course you could spend 40-50k on Panos. But my white phosphorous pvs14 came with IR laser, mount and bump helmet and I paid jussst over 3 grand.
@Ammonymity17762 жыл бұрын
@@Ammonymity1776 Eotech or bust baby
@carbonslice81602 жыл бұрын
Just added the Holosun on my BCM 9" 300 blk out and absolutely love it ....If I didnt already have an Aimpoint compm5 on my 11.5 I would throw one on there too ...
@Aldocello12 жыл бұрын
What an awesomely helpful review! Thank you!
@treepizzle2 жыл бұрын
Honestly this video is what sold me on a holosun. I have a exps and was debating between another or go to holosun. Now I'm thinking of getting a second! (Mainly for regular use. Non night vision. Wasn't looking at that aspect for me personally)
@johnwalker3072 жыл бұрын
Larue makes a riser for the eotech
@BikerBoyKone3 жыл бұрын
aye yo dawg, you want a quick disconnect for your quick disconnect?
@tymtrppr32 жыл бұрын
Thank you for great review including using magnifier 3:17 and 3:45 For duty use, EOTech still have advantage by several aspect. But for fun use / competition, me included, I want to have Holosun one. I am also aware of the rumor [EOTech laser diode dim out over the years] Especially I am not in US so I cant have full support of manufacture.
@satoshimuny313 жыл бұрын
Very good video! Love the honesty and I agree with you. For a NV set up I’d pay the extra $ for the Eo Tech and if not the 510C is the way to go.
@itsfinch29312 жыл бұрын
The Holosun 512 is the new enclosed version, it has the same dot/circle reticle options battery life etc. The advantage of being enclosed means the emitter cant get obscured by rain,snow mud or whatever. It also has the solar option too....There is also a titanium version that is extremely strong.
@ryanpeck33773 жыл бұрын
Yup, 512 is the way. 😊
@MobileAura3 жыл бұрын
Any tube vision?
@thealize8083 жыл бұрын
Holosun has the best reticle for people with astigmatism. And in a SHTF situation the ability to operate without a battery is beneficial. Batteries on the shelf tend to maybe last 5-10 years without operation and having an optic that doesn’t necessarily require a battery is great. Most people don’t have NVG either, and opting for a white light and red dot is not a bad idea if you train with it, if not more affordable.
@benjaminsmall59243 жыл бұрын
The reticle shape doesn't have anything to do with astigmatism. I have pretty bad astigmatism and the holosun, since it's just a red dot, does exactly what every other red dot does.
@tonzophun3 жыл бұрын
@@tonzophun Lol, right? My EXPS3-0 is crispy as hell for me, but the 510c was my first optic and smeared hella bad since its just a dot.
@mitchellsands76173 жыл бұрын
@@tonzophun i also have an astigmatism and the eotech might be the worst looking reticle I have seen to date. The Holosun is probably the best. I did try and Exps 2 not the 3 so idk how much of a difference there is
@Don_Frahn3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, I have moderate astigmatism and the Holosun 510c has amazing reticle clarity compared to Aimpoint T2 and any other red dot I've looked through. Through my eyes, it's even crisper than an EOTech (yes I focus at the target).
@flyingwondercat739 Жыл бұрын
Great job with the review! I lean towards the Holosun because of the price difference and I don't really have need for nigh vison. I know you were reviewing them for a rifle but I'd like to see how they handle the pounding of being on a semi-auto pistol such as a .45
@russnurse2b8072 жыл бұрын
These would be a bit big on a .45 pistol, considering they weigh over 8 ounces. Going with a smaller RMR-sized reflex pistol sight would be more appropriate, as they function similar to the Holosun in this video but only weigh just over 1 ounce.
@Fister_of_Muppets Жыл бұрын
Great video and it helped me with my decision to go with a holosun over an eotech. It fits my needs and I can see it clearly with my astigmatism. Also it is significantly less expensive, especially if you can pick one up preowned.
@brucecarson17782 жыл бұрын
If you’re looking for a reason to buy chineseum junk you found the video. Holographic sights have zero para shift and are designed to help with astigmatism.
@charlesbreen9330 Жыл бұрын
great review, lots of time spent here
@robertrohrbacher3807 Жыл бұрын
I own a Holosun red dot and an Eotech, but I've installed the Holosun HS510C on two of my family member's firearms. Very detailed comparison, but I think a couple of things need to be mentioned. 1. The Holosun and Eotech utilizes two different types of technology to produce their image. The Holosun uses a LED laser, while the Eotech is holographic; pro's and con's to each. 2. The Eotech appears fuzzy by nature, per the owner's manual one should be focusing on the target rather than the reticle and the image should clear up. 3. The Holosun's auto brightness seems great on paper, but I wouldn't recommend having that feature on for two reasons: 1) when using a white light the reticle will be washed out completely. 2) light intensity may differ between you and the target, which the optic may dim the reticle too much to use. 4. The Holosun HS510c is pretty much a large open-reflex sight, debris may obstruct the laser from reaching the lens. All in all, I think the Holosun is a great bang for the buck optic with nice features. The Holosun should satisfy most consumers whether they use it for recreation or home defense. When it comes to ruggedness and reliability I'll take the Eotech, I just wish Eotech would include a shake and wake feature. Great video!
@Kyle-te9tv2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with all your points except possibly part of 1. Idk if I'm correct but lmk what you think. I thought the holosun uses a LED light (not laser) while the eotech uses an actual laser. Your number 3 is HUGE IMO. I don't think a lot of people realize how true this can be. I also really wish the eotech had a shake awake option.
@spartanmikek028 Жыл бұрын
That night vision is awesome!!!! My pick is holosun for sure. But green dot instead of red.
@a.d.c79413 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I’m looking at both, except Eotech xpslmnop-2.3149er. I honestly just kind of want to be cool and have an Eotech, but I’m glad the Holosun will hold up as well.
@jopsball-turret69692 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@mr.nobody64573 жыл бұрын
“My basement, not my mom’s basement”. LMAO
@PanditaP2 жыл бұрын
Holosun is great quality and giving a run for the money in comparison to bigger/ established names brands…. I definitely For-see in the future the prices going up for holosun since they are a fairly new company and are kind of making a big name for themselves in a positive way!
@nookiebizkit4862 жыл бұрын
Honestly, just looking through the optics as you had shown, the eotech looks brighter and more crisp to me. I wouldn’t have noticed the blur of it without your side by side pics
@pillcosby3949 Жыл бұрын
Because.... Magic! Both are very good optics for different applications. Good video Sir! You gotta new Sub!
@JayDubb3BCT3 жыл бұрын
The superior battery life & the auto-on off features of the Holosun are HUGE factors, easily the most important considerations IMHO --- If the sight fails due to battery life, none of the features matter one bit.
@tysanborn5542 жыл бұрын
You can stick a cr123/aa's in your pistol grip or butt stock. It turns off by itself after 4 or 8 hours and last continuously on for over a month, the reticle even flashes when its low. The cr123 batteries will last a whole year even with passive drain, you'd have to have it on 1 to 2 hours a day to go through it in a year. That said, you do see police body cameras of guys forgetting to turn on their eotechs all the time, but they are cops so they fuck up a lot anyways.
@stomach6968 Жыл бұрын
@@stomach6968 i know man I don’t get why everyone gets so hung up on battery life, like everyone is spending 8 hours a day on some black op mission
@harmansmith84 Жыл бұрын
@@harmansmith84 it’s just one of those things, that “what if it goes out when I need it the most”
@Airplanetyson Жыл бұрын
@Alan Ashby agreed. Most people buying either of these sights are going to be dead from lack of meds before their sight goes out if their apocalypse fantasies actually happens.
@SocialContractActual11 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with either tbh Depends on what you're doing. Eotech has the reputation. But for 99% of most cases the Hollersun is good nuff
@WeencieRants3 жыл бұрын
Some people just really like the military novelty the EOtech has,, even if it would never come close to the amount of abuse it can handle. Theyll definitely get the battery life experience though.
@CorkScrewDood2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video
@royshobe66423 жыл бұрын
Excellent review man 👌👌👌 the holosun is going to my wish list 💪😎
@snakes55063 жыл бұрын
All I know is I'm extremely happy with my 510c Green dot. EOTECH is great but I love the 510c, I've got 2 of them one on my scorpion and the other on my AR.
@beastblood2five2 жыл бұрын
Holoson is a decent red dot no doubt. Lots to like about them, especially when they first came out. They were affordable and for the most part pretty dependable. For $120.00 it was well worth it. Fast foward to 2021, Holoson is pushing $300.00 or more, where as EOTECH is still $450.00 for a 512. If I'm in my yard shooting targets, either is fine. If I'm shooting to defend myself..EOTECH is my GO TO optic.
@MLGInfidel13 жыл бұрын
Both would be fine for a go to. Just one better than the other. There is Ukrainians using SIG Romeo 5 and vortex optics
@user-km5kj8xh1x Жыл бұрын
The eotech is not 450 dude. Dont know where you are finding this price.
@fireemblemistrash75 Жыл бұрын
@@fireemblemistrash75 fr😂
@N_T1 Жыл бұрын
In my area, the cheapest eotech is $520 and the cheapest holosun is $225. I'm going with Holosun.
@painexotic37577 ай бұрын
@@painexotic3757 So its about price vs quality for you? Principles arent that important I see
@havenbanks57782 ай бұрын
Great review period
@robertrosa13357 ай бұрын
Bought the HS510C back in 2020. It's extremely impressive especially for the price. Also, the Lego man comparison was a nice touch 😉
@Indylimburg2 жыл бұрын
Great review. One other important consideration for some is the combat aspect. Eotech is superior for rugged environments due to it being tried and true in combat and that it can operate even if the glass is broken. This is unlikely for most but it does offer some comfort to those fielding it in extremely austere environments. Eotech is very expensive and I think most users will prefer the holosun. I do dislike the fuzziness that eotech has on very bright settings but as a former combat infantryman I can recommend that all optics should be fired on their lowest brightness setting where the optic is visible otherwise you’re increasing moa thereby reducing accuracy. That is true for all optics. The brighter the reticle the bigger the dot and less precision. The auto on feature is pretty cool also. The optic will always be in the move in tactical environments but long battery life makes it okay. If I grab my weapon the sight comes on. Pretty cool. Hopefully eotech will go that route as well. I do love the solar panel for no battery operation. It would be interesting to know whether or not holosun has configured it to only use battery when in low light pulling from solar first. For military applications batteries are a limitless supply and frequently replaced. For civilians that becomes a huge expense. I imagine that holosun uses solar first and that’s the reason for extreme battery longevity. Additionally you could pack more batteries with less space for holosun. If holosun solar is damaged or the glass is broken users may encounter big problems. Eotech is extremely rugged and ensures that the worst of situations can be prevented. Their engineering is centered around military operations. I might have purchased holosun if I had seen this review first. I just know eotech can take one hell of a beating and maintain zero and is well trusted amongst the most elite fighting forces of the us military. I’ll have to look into magnifiers options for holosun. Maybe I’ll pick it up as well. Great review!!!! Thanks for this.
@LittlePeckerHomestead3 жыл бұрын
The Holosun solar panel runs the optic whenever possible and the battery runs it when solar isn't available. The battery life is only including the battery's life, not in conjunction with solar. I should also mention the "hood" that goes around the optic is titanium and only connects at the base so energy from a hard hit does not transfer through the glass.
@jpowens22533 жыл бұрын
I just got an EXPS3 after my EXPS2 of 10 years got so dim i couldn't see the reticle in bright daylight. Even with that said, the EXPS2 still turns on. EOTech all the way!!!
@The_Ghost9232 жыл бұрын
I know a couple of operators and they both pooh poohed the eotech saying the preferred the T2. I was surprised about that. I have been around long enough to know your first thought is probably too question my references, but I'd rather hear what you have to say about the Aimpoint T2 if you've ever used it.
@michaelmappin44252 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmappin4425 I know your question wasn't directed towards me, but if I may offer an opinion: I am not an operator, but I do own a T2 and an EXPS3. I prefer my EOTech simply because it rocks at CQB and even out to mid-range distances, is built like a tank, has a large FOV, the reticle is awesome, and it looks/works great using NODS. I was really dismayed when I got my brand new T2 and discovered that in order to see it in bright daylight I have to crank it all the way up to settings 10, 11, or 12. Apparently the new ones are not as bright as the old ones from everything I've read on ar15.com. However, even with that being said, my philosophy has always been get what works best for you and train with it a lot in order to become proficient...and carry spare batteries regardless of battery life.
@The_Ghost9232 жыл бұрын
@@The_Ghost923 awesome reply. Thank you very much. My research has had me leaning toward the EOtech but I was really thrown for a loop when I asked the pros. I'm not likely going to sweep any houses or go after a high value target but I do want good stuff if it's ever needed.
@michaelmappin44252 жыл бұрын
Wow this was the best optic comparison review, I’ve seen I like the scale model of the lego man at 5 yards.
@loosebolts45373 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
I have the Holosun 510C on my 300blk home defense build because of the shake awake feature. I have the EOTECH EXPS3 on my if shit hits the fan build
@noealvares6149 Жыл бұрын
awesome video i learned alot! my next ultimate goal is to get an eotech/holo maybea uh huey but i wanted a decent regular r.d.o optic to mess around with first and came down to sig romeo4 and this holosun. I wanted the holo closed system but those were a year backordered and im wondering if i should havengotten the open holosun instead. I just heard great things about the sig and all it's features.
@Mithradates_of_Los_Angeles3 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, even in very dark conditions I've had good luck with the 510 through my tubes, I use some decently specced echos with low EBI and low halo
@TriadAgone2 жыл бұрын
20,000 hrs vs every time I picked up my rifle with the Eotech XPS it had a dead battery? I’ll take the Holosun or an Aimpoint.
@kengray57933 жыл бұрын
Dude ! Your edits are fire ! First off the lego idea for scaling 200 iq and the Simpsons clip @ 6:03 had me laughing and made me post this comment ;p keep up the good work !
@jeffmelgar564 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered the green Halosun 510C-GR , excited to get it out and put some lead down range to test 🇺🇸🇺🇸
@100pyatt6 ай бұрын
Just based off this review. The Holosun kicks the Eotech's ass. I went with the HS515 green dot. Very pleased.
@jimbograves15763 жыл бұрын
No, it doesn't lol research the diff between holographic and red dot.
@xXDocHolidayXx3 жыл бұрын
The Eotech is the old wise boomer and the Holosun is the new kid on the block.
@durrtybuck89492 жыл бұрын
I've been running a 510c since they released. It's a great optic. I prefer it over the Eotech.
@deangullberry51483 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you!
@nutshellrooster1331 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I'm sure the Chinese are capable of making quality products, cell phones come to mind, however, Holosun because it is not only made by but also owned by a Chinese company is a no go for me. I'm quite aware that many many optics are made in China, but when at all possible I'd prefer to keep my money in the USA, or if that's not possible with an allied country. (like Meprolight for instance) EOTech for the record for those who do not know is a Michigan based company, and their products are made in Michigan. (disclosure their parent company is Koucar Management, also a private Michigan based company)
@frenchdragon23 жыл бұрын
Ya I ordered an EOTECH a few minutes ago. I just went for a lower priced one I don’t want the night vision.
@ShotCallen233 жыл бұрын
lol @ allied country. Why? What a stupid way to shop
@flexluthor16913 жыл бұрын
Eotech has given a lot of money to democrats such as Diana Feinstein
@RealDogeOperator3 жыл бұрын
@@RealDogeOperator and President Biden gave you a stimulus check so stfu. I will take two more eotechs plz...
@show2ime3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I buy American if I have a choice. Sometimes you don't.
@richardlahan70683 жыл бұрын
Great review - you just saved me about $300. One day I may splurge on an EOTech, but today is not that day. Thanks for the review - I'm gonna pick myself up that Holosun!
@darktitan_34933 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with the 510C!
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
@Paul Bargo after everything I've seen (and I've done my research) it seems it really comes down to personal preference. If you're not running night vision the 510C has a lot of advantages (battery life, more settings, smaller, weighs less, and has a crisper dot). Sure the EOTech may have it on night vision, but most civilians like myself don't need to run night vision. But it does come down to personal preference - sure the EOTech is proven in battle but this 510C has gone through stress tests and torture tests and compared to the EOTech. If you want to save a couple hundred this is not a bad option, and it is not "trash".
@darktitan_34933 жыл бұрын
@Paul Bargo Ahh yeah that could have a big play in it - the military will always buy the best of the best but some of us aren't as fortunate.
@darktitan_34933 жыл бұрын
@@darktitan_3493 That’s rare they buy the best. Most of their standard issue stuff is garbage lol.
@MobileAura3 жыл бұрын
You definitely pointed me in right direction 💪
@dcrump2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison.
@ArcanusLibero3 жыл бұрын
Nice review! Reliability, durability and simplicity ... I own the Eotech.
@AntBlanco3 жыл бұрын
Amen. I have a HHS on my SCAR and it works great. And if you believe that battery life for the Holosun I have a bridge I wanna sell you.
@dan0alda5683 жыл бұрын
The U.S. Military Forced A Recall Of The 500 Series Range EOTech For Major Malfunctioning Via Not Performing Per Both Hot & Cold Temperature Specifications!
@brownbear34133 жыл бұрын
@@dan0alda568 I have both the holosun and an xps2-0. The holosun sits on my 6.8 power on 24/7. Think I've changed the battery once in the past 3 years. Now it does auto off after a bit and auto on with any motion, but the battery life is outstanding in it.
@michaelmignone58693 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmignone5869 I couldn’t care less. That battery life argument is pure hilarity. I’ve got a 1200 dollar optic riding on a 3k weapon. A set of AAs (I have the HHS3)is a drop in the bucket, to say nothing of ammo. They didn’t come up with that tech on their own, they have taken from this and that and made a good product, I won’t deny it. But when you take others tech and have it built at slave wages I would hope you would come in at a low price point. So lets copy Aimpoint’s LED circuit, Trijicon’s shock chassis and come in at 1/2 the price. I am by no means all American, I have an Elcan, Aimpoint, a Japanese Vortex, Nightforce, and Zeiss etc. But the Chinese government is despicable, and any money I can deny them, I will. I won’t tell another man how to spend his coin, if you are good with it, play on player. Look at all you’ll save on batteries.
@dan0alda5683 жыл бұрын
@@dan0alda568 So battery life is important.... until it's not .
@900stx73 жыл бұрын
well you missed your opportunity, why you didnt try the holo with the dot only in nv mode? if thats possible, i would assume way less bloom to be presented.
@vittu69koipina3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was between these two and landed on the Holosun, depsite all the peer reviews leading me towards the EOTech. I think I made the right decision.
@supremeuppercut Жыл бұрын
Great comparison thank you
@jakerobinson40202 жыл бұрын
Love the 510c. I was surprised that I'm faster and more accurate with it than a red dot. Wanted the Eotech but with my old eyes the reticle is almost useless without my glasses on while the Holosun is far clearer. If I was 30 I would probably like the Eotech more. Ended up with two 510c but do have other optics with etched reticles if needed too.
@rpnbf81963 жыл бұрын
You are not supposed to focus on the eotech reticle. If you focus on the target like you should the eotech is just as crisp. Just FYI. Took me getting used to as well.
@xXDocHolidayXx3 жыл бұрын
510c is a red dot...it’s not actually a holographic
@spacemanspliff78443 жыл бұрын
I like the Holosun. I’m 41,It’s not like my old Marine ass is fighting much more than paper targets nowadays 😂. However, when I spend big, I like Meopta or Meprolight. I think EO makes a damn nice product, but it’s image is too grainy for me. That’s personal, not a knock on its quality.
@jasonfedeli3 жыл бұрын
I ended up getting the eotech because I put it on my night vision rifle. The night mode is definitely a deal breaker if you're using on a gun used at night. I use my pet 15 mostly but that eotech is tight though my nods
@onpatrol8192 жыл бұрын
Great video ordered the holosun green dot
@1rukie2 жыл бұрын
Have both , but the HOlosun in green is something else , in regards of resolution , sharpness and definition 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
@18echo3 жыл бұрын
Oh just stop teasing us peasants with your green dots. 😭
@MobileAura3 жыл бұрын
i have the same best red dot for the money got mine just around 250 love the features on it and it blow the eotech u can buy 2 holosun for the price of one eotech lol
@henryrodriguez27993 жыл бұрын
With NV just use the single dot with the Holosun. That works just fine! Anyway Holosun needs to work on the NV setting…
@FritzHunter012 жыл бұрын
A great review, thank you.
@insidetheviper39992 жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you
@rhyschnee3810 Жыл бұрын
Eotech can take some drops and bumps. Also, the Eotech emitters can’t be blocked by mud or debris. Eotech’s dot won’t magnify under a magnifier like a red dot. You’re paying more for Eotech’s proven ruggedness, but both are great options for civilians. Holosun and Eotech are great for my astigmatism.
@hoangnguyen-lu9zt3 жыл бұрын
The non magnifying of Eotech is a myth. It's not black voodoo science. A magnifier magnifies both just the same. But also magnifies the surrounding too.
@spartylawyer12 жыл бұрын
I had both optics. The eotech sold.. I never get used to the reticle. Also hated the default brightness every time you turn the optic on and the battery life. Yes maybe is durable etc but bad features. I use the 510 now and I have 1 negative. After 2 years for safety I decided to change the battery and the head of the battery tray mounting screw broke off. I ended up with a broken hard screw in the soft aluminium body. Holosun never replied to my problem. Terrible customer service . The screw was faulty. I managed to drill that out without a scratch etc but had to use a bigger screw. Its not visible but I know there is an issue. Maybe just a fluke but because my experience with a customer service I would think twice to buy anything from holosun again.
@kriszml3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea there was a separate mount. Appreciate the heads up. Shame holosun didn’t include it.
@brianmanning92712 жыл бұрын
Damn! That was comprehensive! Thanks
@michalp23622 жыл бұрын
One word not mentioned in the video... parallax. The Eotech, as a HWS, has essentially zero parallax compared to the Holosun reticle. And then put a 3x magnifier in front of both on it to try to hit a 10 inch circle out to 300 yards and parallax error of 5-10 MOA on the Holosun means missing the target even with good elevation hold-overs (like on the Eotech XPS 3-4 or 3-2).
@joelobryan12123 жыл бұрын
Some additional things I believe the Eotech has over the holosun are 1) if the glass breaks it still works 2) The center dot stays 1 MOA when magnified, shooting out farther is easier, because the dot doesn’t cover the target. 3x on a 2 MOA holosun is now a 6 MOA dot. 3) holographic has little parallax, so if you do use nods there is some flexibility on eye positions. LED’s typically are not parallax free although holosun seems to imply it maybe is on this optic.
@davidschlageter59623 жыл бұрын
It's entirely possible my brain is too simple to understand the magnified 1 MOA thing but I honestly don't. At 1x the dot has a size, which is roughly 1 inch at 100 yards. At 3x the dot has the same size relative to the target, and will appear roughly 3x bigger through the magnifier. The same applies for 2 MOA dot. 1x3 = 3, not 1. I actually did the Lego figure thing to see this for myself. It's not clear to me that the EOTech dot looks much smaller magnified.
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
@@TacticalAccountants I watched a shot show eotech booth explanation of the dot. What they said was the dot is actually smaller than 1 MOA, but the human brain eye can only see down to 1 MOA. So magnified it’s still 1 MOA. I will see if I can find it...
@davidschlageter59623 жыл бұрын
@@TacticalAccountants here it is kzhead.info/sun/iZqEY9uXj5OEqIU/bejne.html
@davidschlageter59623 жыл бұрын
@@TacticalAccountants I guess another difference is you can get an Eotech that runs on AA batteries whichi forgot until I saw it in the video. 🙂
@davidschlageter59623 жыл бұрын
@@davidschlageter5962 Okay that is interesting. I'm going to have to test it at longer ranges than 5 yards with a Lego guy.
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison!
@Cepera54011 ай бұрын
Just bought an EXPS3 to replace my old EXPS2 and sold my 510C. I had that EXPS2 for 10+ years and the ONLY issue I had with it was that the reticle got so dim I couldn't see it in bright daylight. Again, that was after roughly after 10+ years of use...
@The_Ghost9232 жыл бұрын
Holosun makes some great optics, I have used Leupold DPP, RMR type2 3 and 6 moa, Burris FF3, Vortex rds, and the Holosun 507k is the best compact pistol red dot, their 508t is the best pistol dot over rmr's, their 507 vulcan model acss is one of the best and probably better than a rmr overall, especially for offset. 509 is probably better than the aimpoint, for smg pdw type deals. Holosun + Acss and new vulcan tech circle, way to go. My favorite optics = Eotech + vortex micro 3x magnifier and acogs ta31/11/33
The LEGO guy usage secured a follow from me
Agreed. Same
Me too! Clever!
U 2 lol ?
FYI: If you have Astigmatism the eotech reticle will be kinda blurry without your glasses but the holosun will be perfectly clear without glasses. I own both
I second this! Told my buddy why you spend so much money on this trash optic I can’t see anything. It works for him though
Ditto. I tried the EOtech in the store and it was fuzzy. All other red dots had mini starbursts. Haven't tried the Holosun, but purchased it online and will see.
@@reelrocknrolla4251 I'll be BUYING a Holosun 508T when they become available.
I have a holosun and it's all fucked up lol. Well I have more than just astigmatism so idk.
I third this. Also own both an Eotech & Holosun. Because of my eyes, the 1 Eotech quietly rests in its box and the 8 Holosuns are on the rifles. The reticle and red dot are clear AF.
Holographic sights tends to look fuzzy if you're focused on them. You're supposed to look through them, not at them. If you stay target-focused, the reticle will appear crisp.
I agree with this completely, I picked up an EXPS2 and thought it was fuzzy until I actually shot with it. No fuzziness effected me at all
Definitely some mind fuckery with a holographic lol it’s crazy how crisp it can look when focusing on target compared to the fuzziness of focusing on the reticle
I'm so glad to see other people who understand that lol
This.
Yep, back before my eyes went to heck, I could use one of the dots that make up the dot to get pretty darn good results. I think there were three dots, they just look like one now, 10-15 years later.
I love quality in budget. I want the best, but I am realistic. I have no plans to be the next guy in a nightvision raid in some sandbox in the middle east, and I'm sure all the nightvision I'll need in the near future will be measured in lumens and candela.
This review is pure gold. Thank you.
I have the Holosun HS510C and I've been extremely happy with my purchase, I was able to find it on sale and couldn't pass it up. I was able to pickup a couple of the risers when they were in stock at Primary Arms and I highly recommend it if you like to have a higher ride height. I run fixed irons on my ARs and much rather have the higher 1/3 cowitness. For the $ I don't think you could go wrong with the Holosun, no it isn't battle tested like the Eotech, but for my uses I am highly satisfied with my choice. Thank you for the great video as always!
Hahhah holosun is so shit . That entire optic can go down from a drop of water on the projector . And the paralax up close is dreadful . U holosun fans are sick . This optic is 10x worst than the eotech in just about every category
Thank you for the review! I’ve been looking for something like this for a while now and this was perfect!
I have and love both. Love the lighter weight, battery life and the auto on mode of the Holosun and the ruggedness of the eotech
OK the Simpson's cut was perfect, subscribed
EOTech is on an entirely different level than their competition. The biggest factor that separates it is its minimal parallax shift at 100 yards. This is where the holographic sight comes into play over a traditional LED optic.
Bingo
I have a few EOTECH EXP Holographic sights and I have both generations of the vortex Huey Holographic sight and the Vortex is just as amazing especially paired up with there 3x magnifier!! Garand Thumb did a review and called the Huey the EOTECH killer kzhead.info/sun/p9KSeNCbmoCbh30/bejne.html
Honestly, Holosun is definitely giving them a run for their money. I use to own an Eotech 512 and at the time there was not any good alternatives to a holographic sight. Yes there was aimpoint, but the reticle is what I liked on the Eotech which aimpoint didn't offer. But now that I see this Holosun, I am blown away. I think it is a very good alternative and definitely competes with the Eotech and even beats it in certain categories. The price and battery life alone puts it at a very good spot compared to any Eotech.
Well, now that there is Holosuns being used in Ukraine I think this comment aged like milk. I'm a trijicon fanboy so I can't speak too much on red dots as the MRO is ass.
@@Fin.mint. Holosuns being used in Ukraine doesn't change that the comment is still 1000% true. Any other red dot has parallax. That means if you aren't perfectly lined up that dot is in the wrong place and will miss long range unless you account for the distortion. Ukrainians are taking what they can get holosuns included. The elite in the military use EOTech. Your comment is ass because you don't know what you are talking about.
You didn't point out that although the Eotech is better with night vision, the Holosun lets you run that single dot, making it just as effective I would think, since it's not drowning out your target nearly as much... assuming you're cool with just the dot anyway. Would have liked to see that with night vision. Good video, good comparison!
If you're using either sight correctly, neither reticle will drown out your target. With these types of sights, you should be focusing on your target not the dot unless you're referring to distance shooting.
Except the glass on the Holosun fucking SUCKS under NV. There is no comparison for passive aiming through NV. You can tell somewhat in the video but in real life its freaking huge.
Thought the same thing. GO with the 2MOA and it's all good. No one watching this needs that type of clarity anyway. It comes down to do you have an EOTECH or not. I'm team HS on this.
Check out our newer Aimpoint vs Holosun video. I show the dot only under night vision. To be fair, the 510C gets dimmer than the 507 but it’s still no Eotech with dot only
@@TacticalAccountants question for you. I see some sights are for 223 and some for 308 whats the difference also do you know what the best sights that are scar rated ?
One of the best reviews I've seen. Watch the whole thing.
I have both a red and green Holosun HS510C and green HE515 Holosun. I got a good deal on an EOTech EXPS3 so I mounted that to my 14.5 pinned build. With my astigmatism the Holosuns are clearer to me, even with the target focus I’ve read some commenters say is needed with the EOTech. I got the EOTech for its bombproof history and for possible barter ability in SHTF. I think I’d keep my Holosuns to use because of the solar function, as batteries will eventually become hard to find (I am getting 123A rechargeables and a solar panel chargeable portable power station). I’m hoping to not need any of these. They way the world is headed you never can be too prepared.
vedi meglio con holousn pur avendo astigmatismo? che sappia io i mirini olografici dovrebbero essere più adatti per chi ha problemi di astigmatismo, quindi dovresti vedere meglio con eotech. Ma tu dici di trovarti meglio con holosun, corretto?
Do you prefer the red or green that you own?
@@TheHeadmanI was wondering the same thing, I heard the red one does not flicker as much because it uses less power than green
I find the solar option to be more gimmick than practical due to it only functioning in auto brightness mode, which adjusts to the environment you're in as opposed to the target. The reticle can wash out.
This is a really great walk through of the pros and cons of both optics. And, very non biased. It’s very hard to get opinions that aren’t trying promote one over the other. Thank you!
You do excellent work. Great comparison. I did not realize the Holosun beat the EOTech in window size... my own experience in testing myself and multiple red dots showed that the larger window sights were always a bit faster for a multi target course of fire.
Great review. This was really educational for me. I appreciate the time and work you put into it.
Your description on how an eotech works is spot on 😂
That was such an excellent video... Learned alot thanks
This is pretty much a perfect review/comparison video. Really well done. Subscribed.
Just found your channel. Really enjoyed this type of video and hope to see more comparisons on products. Probably the most in-depth but easy to watch videos I've seen on the topic.
Appreciate it!
Extremely well done video with outcomes nicely explained and your reasonings sound, IMO. Thanks for all.
Thanks!
I got the Holosun for a lot of different reasons like battery life, clarity, shake wake, multiple recticles, solar power, and it's still very durable... The EOTech is just more specific for things like law enforcement, military, or someone that needs a more rugged optic..
Awesome video man! Thanks. I like That you demonstrated the night vision thing so I didn’t have to take your word for it, I got to see it for myself.
That was a great review that covered many important details. Thank you. I was surprised by the differences between the two sights. Thanks again for the information.
You’re very welcome
Just discovered your channel and your information mixed with your humor has earned you a new subscriber. I’ll be picking up the Holosun thanks to your video. I cannot justify the cost especially if the largest complaint about Holosun night vision would be solved by removing the 6moa ring and just running the dot. I’d be very interested to see the Holosun with the Streamlight TLR VLR2. Otherwise, VERY good stuff!
I wonder how much the green dot version would affect the night vision. Also would of like to have seen the holoson with the dot only in the night vision
Getting back to you guys 10 months later. Just bought a Windam SRC and a Eotech 512 got an amazing deal. This has been amazing for outdoor shooting and classes. You can pick out the reticle much quicker. I have also found the Eotech has a higher level of accuracy. I get it the battery power is not as good but overall it is a better optic. I you are just shooting at an indoor range however the 510 c will suffice.
Thanks for the excellent review! You just gained a new subscriber!
So helpful! This gave me exactly what I needed to know. I really wanted to convince myself to get a EoTech for my new B&T APC9 PDW, but the battery life is a huge deal to me. I'm gonna go with a Holosun.
Battery life only matters if you’re in a war zone imo. For any ordinary person the battery life is sufficient. Also you can store batteries in your grip or stock if you have that feature.
@@sector986 Even then, you're not gonna spend 1000 hours in a warzone and even if you forget to replace the batteries when its low; you'll most likely will be carrying a spare of any consumable gear on your person so it'll be piss easy to exchange the battery during combat
I just bought a Kriss Vector CRB, and I'm looking to kit it out with some 'ease of use' attachments. I was looking for some decent sights and kept seeing Holosun and Eotech pop up as contenders. Your detailed review helped me to decide which to pick, I decided on the Holosun since it seems to be just as good, and me being a budget man, had to go with the price
I went with the American made Eotech 512 for my vector. The holosun doesn't take standard batteries so
@@doubleutubefan5the parts still come from China 😂
@@murkyturkey5238 still made here though. There's a lot made in China. Hard to get around but I try not to be China made when possible
Great review, very complete, we can see extremely well the visual rendering of each viewfinder, well done to the top
Love your sense of humor! Good job. Gets me thinking and that is hard these days...😁
This review is super awesome and helpful for those of us who want to get into night vision later but have a little bit of saving to do. I would ask this: Can you please do another video of the 510, set to just the dot under night vision? I wonder if that would obscure less of the target and make it MORE usable than with the circle dot. I understand it's never going to be Eotech-level nice because its not holographic.
Holosun has done excellent in giving the gun community the best budget options hands down. I do still believe the high $cost$ red dots are worth investing in....at least one for a primary fighting rifle, just like it may be a good idea everyone own at least one revolver, or one Glock no matter if you like them or not.
Not sure how $300 counts as a budget red dot
@@masonhaggerty186 when price compared to what's considered "non budget" in this space, yes $300 is indeed still "budget".
I agree 300 vs 600 yes it's a budget optic.
Very nice comparison, thanks for taking the time to do this..
Hey brother, heck of a comparison vid! Incredibly helpful. Thank you!
I guess if you've already spent $20k on night vision an extra $350 on the optic is trivial. Meanwhile if you don't have night vision, like most people, you get to save $200. Great review!
20k on NVG? Lol. You can get into nvgs for under 5k if you know where to look. WP PVS14s can be found for around 3 grand
I mean, night vision varies from like $6k binoculars to those $40k Panoramic Night Vision goggles that the military uses.
@@carbonslice8160 yeah, of course you could spend 40-50k on Panos. But my white phosphorous pvs14 came with IR laser, mount and bump helmet and I paid jussst over 3 grand.
@@Ammonymity1776 Eotech or bust baby
Just added the Holosun on my BCM 9" 300 blk out and absolutely love it ....If I didnt already have an Aimpoint compm5 on my 11.5 I would throw one on there too ...
What an awesomely helpful review! Thank you!
Honestly this video is what sold me on a holosun. I have a exps and was debating between another or go to holosun. Now I'm thinking of getting a second! (Mainly for regular use. Non night vision. Wasn't looking at that aspect for me personally)
Larue makes a riser for the eotech
aye yo dawg, you want a quick disconnect for your quick disconnect?
Thank you for great review including using magnifier 3:17 and 3:45 For duty use, EOTech still have advantage by several aspect. But for fun use / competition, me included, I want to have Holosun one. I am also aware of the rumor [EOTech laser diode dim out over the years] Especially I am not in US so I cant have full support of manufacture.
Very good video! Love the honesty and I agree with you. For a NV set up I’d pay the extra $ for the Eo Tech and if not the 510C is the way to go.
The Holosun 512 is the new enclosed version, it has the same dot/circle reticle options battery life etc. The advantage of being enclosed means the emitter cant get obscured by rain,snow mud or whatever. It also has the solar option too....There is also a titanium version that is extremely strong.
Yup, 512 is the way. 😊
Any tube vision?
Holosun has the best reticle for people with astigmatism. And in a SHTF situation the ability to operate without a battery is beneficial. Batteries on the shelf tend to maybe last 5-10 years without operation and having an optic that doesn’t necessarily require a battery is great. Most people don’t have NVG either, and opting for a white light and red dot is not a bad idea if you train with it, if not more affordable.
The reticle shape doesn't have anything to do with astigmatism. I have pretty bad astigmatism and the holosun, since it's just a red dot, does exactly what every other red dot does.
@@tonzophun Lol, right? My EXPS3-0 is crispy as hell for me, but the 510c was my first optic and smeared hella bad since its just a dot.
@@tonzophun i also have an astigmatism and the eotech might be the worst looking reticle I have seen to date. The Holosun is probably the best. I did try and Exps 2 not the 3 so idk how much of a difference there is
Can confirm, I have moderate astigmatism and the Holosun 510c has amazing reticle clarity compared to Aimpoint T2 and any other red dot I've looked through. Through my eyes, it's even crisper than an EOTech (yes I focus at the target).
Great job with the review! I lean towards the Holosun because of the price difference and I don't really have need for nigh vison. I know you were reviewing them for a rifle but I'd like to see how they handle the pounding of being on a semi-auto pistol such as a .45
These would be a bit big on a .45 pistol, considering they weigh over 8 ounces. Going with a smaller RMR-sized reflex pistol sight would be more appropriate, as they function similar to the Holosun in this video but only weigh just over 1 ounce.
Great video and it helped me with my decision to go with a holosun over an eotech. It fits my needs and I can see it clearly with my astigmatism. Also it is significantly less expensive, especially if you can pick one up preowned.
If you’re looking for a reason to buy chineseum junk you found the video. Holographic sights have zero para shift and are designed to help with astigmatism.
great review, lots of time spent here
I own a Holosun red dot and an Eotech, but I've installed the Holosun HS510C on two of my family member's firearms. Very detailed comparison, but I think a couple of things need to be mentioned. 1. The Holosun and Eotech utilizes two different types of technology to produce their image. The Holosun uses a LED laser, while the Eotech is holographic; pro's and con's to each. 2. The Eotech appears fuzzy by nature, per the owner's manual one should be focusing on the target rather than the reticle and the image should clear up. 3. The Holosun's auto brightness seems great on paper, but I wouldn't recommend having that feature on for two reasons: 1) when using a white light the reticle will be washed out completely. 2) light intensity may differ between you and the target, which the optic may dim the reticle too much to use. 4. The Holosun HS510c is pretty much a large open-reflex sight, debris may obstruct the laser from reaching the lens. All in all, I think the Holosun is a great bang for the buck optic with nice features. The Holosun should satisfy most consumers whether they use it for recreation or home defense. When it comes to ruggedness and reliability I'll take the Eotech, I just wish Eotech would include a shake and wake feature. Great video!
I totally agree with all your points except possibly part of 1. Idk if I'm correct but lmk what you think. I thought the holosun uses a LED light (not laser) while the eotech uses an actual laser. Your number 3 is HUGE IMO. I don't think a lot of people realize how true this can be. I also really wish the eotech had a shake awake option.
That night vision is awesome!!!! My pick is holosun for sure. But green dot instead of red.
Thanks for the review. I’m looking at both, except Eotech xpslmnop-2.3149er. I honestly just kind of want to be cool and have an Eotech, but I’m glad the Holosun will hold up as well.
Great review!
“My basement, not my mom’s basement”. LMAO
Holosun is great quality and giving a run for the money in comparison to bigger/ established names brands…. I definitely For-see in the future the prices going up for holosun since they are a fairly new company and are kind of making a big name for themselves in a positive way!
Honestly, just looking through the optics as you had shown, the eotech looks brighter and more crisp to me. I wouldn’t have noticed the blur of it without your side by side pics
Because.... Magic! Both are very good optics for different applications. Good video Sir! You gotta new Sub!
The superior battery life & the auto-on off features of the Holosun are HUGE factors, easily the most important considerations IMHO --- If the sight fails due to battery life, none of the features matter one bit.
You can stick a cr123/aa's in your pistol grip or butt stock. It turns off by itself after 4 or 8 hours and last continuously on for over a month, the reticle even flashes when its low. The cr123 batteries will last a whole year even with passive drain, you'd have to have it on 1 to 2 hours a day to go through it in a year. That said, you do see police body cameras of guys forgetting to turn on their eotechs all the time, but they are cops so they fuck up a lot anyways.
@@stomach6968 i know man I don’t get why everyone gets so hung up on battery life, like everyone is spending 8 hours a day on some black op mission
@@harmansmith84 it’s just one of those things, that “what if it goes out when I need it the most”
@Alan Ashby agreed. Most people buying either of these sights are going to be dead from lack of meds before their sight goes out if their apocalypse fantasies actually happens.
Nothing wrong with either tbh Depends on what you're doing. Eotech has the reputation. But for 99% of most cases the Hollersun is good nuff
Some people just really like the military novelty the EOtech has,, even if it would never come close to the amount of abuse it can handle. Theyll definitely get the battery life experience though.
Thanks for making this video
Excellent review man 👌👌👌 the holosun is going to my wish list 💪😎
All I know is I'm extremely happy with my 510c Green dot. EOTECH is great but I love the 510c, I've got 2 of them one on my scorpion and the other on my AR.
Holoson is a decent red dot no doubt. Lots to like about them, especially when they first came out. They were affordable and for the most part pretty dependable. For $120.00 it was well worth it. Fast foward to 2021, Holoson is pushing $300.00 or more, where as EOTECH is still $450.00 for a 512. If I'm in my yard shooting targets, either is fine. If I'm shooting to defend myself..EOTECH is my GO TO optic.
Both would be fine for a go to. Just one better than the other. There is Ukrainians using SIG Romeo 5 and vortex optics
The eotech is not 450 dude. Dont know where you are finding this price.
@@fireemblemistrash75 fr😂
In my area, the cheapest eotech is $520 and the cheapest holosun is $225. I'm going with Holosun.
@@painexotic3757 So its about price vs quality for you? Principles arent that important I see
Great review period
Bought the HS510C back in 2020. It's extremely impressive especially for the price. Also, the Lego man comparison was a nice touch 😉
Great review. One other important consideration for some is the combat aspect. Eotech is superior for rugged environments due to it being tried and true in combat and that it can operate even if the glass is broken. This is unlikely for most but it does offer some comfort to those fielding it in extremely austere environments. Eotech is very expensive and I think most users will prefer the holosun. I do dislike the fuzziness that eotech has on very bright settings but as a former combat infantryman I can recommend that all optics should be fired on their lowest brightness setting where the optic is visible otherwise you’re increasing moa thereby reducing accuracy. That is true for all optics. The brighter the reticle the bigger the dot and less precision. The auto on feature is pretty cool also. The optic will always be in the move in tactical environments but long battery life makes it okay. If I grab my weapon the sight comes on. Pretty cool. Hopefully eotech will go that route as well. I do love the solar panel for no battery operation. It would be interesting to know whether or not holosun has configured it to only use battery when in low light pulling from solar first. For military applications batteries are a limitless supply and frequently replaced. For civilians that becomes a huge expense. I imagine that holosun uses solar first and that’s the reason for extreme battery longevity. Additionally you could pack more batteries with less space for holosun. If holosun solar is damaged or the glass is broken users may encounter big problems. Eotech is extremely rugged and ensures that the worst of situations can be prevented. Their engineering is centered around military operations. I might have purchased holosun if I had seen this review first. I just know eotech can take one hell of a beating and maintain zero and is well trusted amongst the most elite fighting forces of the us military. I’ll have to look into magnifiers options for holosun. Maybe I’ll pick it up as well. Great review!!!! Thanks for this.
The Holosun solar panel runs the optic whenever possible and the battery runs it when solar isn't available. The battery life is only including the battery's life, not in conjunction with solar. I should also mention the "hood" that goes around the optic is titanium and only connects at the base so energy from a hard hit does not transfer through the glass.
I just got an EXPS3 after my EXPS2 of 10 years got so dim i couldn't see the reticle in bright daylight. Even with that said, the EXPS2 still turns on. EOTech all the way!!!
I know a couple of operators and they both pooh poohed the eotech saying the preferred the T2. I was surprised about that. I have been around long enough to know your first thought is probably too question my references, but I'd rather hear what you have to say about the Aimpoint T2 if you've ever used it.
@@michaelmappin4425 I know your question wasn't directed towards me, but if I may offer an opinion: I am not an operator, but I do own a T2 and an EXPS3. I prefer my EOTech simply because it rocks at CQB and even out to mid-range distances, is built like a tank, has a large FOV, the reticle is awesome, and it looks/works great using NODS. I was really dismayed when I got my brand new T2 and discovered that in order to see it in bright daylight I have to crank it all the way up to settings 10, 11, or 12. Apparently the new ones are not as bright as the old ones from everything I've read on ar15.com. However, even with that being said, my philosophy has always been get what works best for you and train with it a lot in order to become proficient...and carry spare batteries regardless of battery life.
@@The_Ghost923 awesome reply. Thank you very much. My research has had me leaning toward the EOtech but I was really thrown for a loop when I asked the pros. I'm not likely going to sweep any houses or go after a high value target but I do want good stuff if it's ever needed.
Wow this was the best optic comparison review, I’ve seen I like the scale model of the lego man at 5 yards.
Thanks!
I have the Holosun 510C on my 300blk home defense build because of the shake awake feature. I have the EOTECH EXPS3 on my if shit hits the fan build
awesome video i learned alot! my next ultimate goal is to get an eotech/holo maybea uh huey but i wanted a decent regular r.d.o optic to mess around with first and came down to sig romeo4 and this holosun. I wanted the holo closed system but those were a year backordered and im wondering if i should havengotten the open holosun instead. I just heard great things about the sig and all it's features.
I'll be honest, even in very dark conditions I've had good luck with the 510 through my tubes, I use some decently specced echos with low EBI and low halo
20,000 hrs vs every time I picked up my rifle with the Eotech XPS it had a dead battery? I’ll take the Holosun or an Aimpoint.
Dude ! Your edits are fire ! First off the lego idea for scaling 200 iq and the Simpsons clip @ 6:03 had me laughing and made me post this comment ;p keep up the good work !
Just ordered the green Halosun 510C-GR , excited to get it out and put some lead down range to test 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Just based off this review. The Holosun kicks the Eotech's ass. I went with the HS515 green dot. Very pleased.
No, it doesn't lol research the diff between holographic and red dot.
The Eotech is the old wise boomer and the Holosun is the new kid on the block.
I've been running a 510c since they released. It's a great optic. I prefer it over the Eotech.
Great review. Thank you!
Thanks for the review! I'm sure the Chinese are capable of making quality products, cell phones come to mind, however, Holosun because it is not only made by but also owned by a Chinese company is a no go for me. I'm quite aware that many many optics are made in China, but when at all possible I'd prefer to keep my money in the USA, or if that's not possible with an allied country. (like Meprolight for instance) EOTech for the record for those who do not know is a Michigan based company, and their products are made in Michigan. (disclosure their parent company is Koucar Management, also a private Michigan based company)
Ya I ordered an EOTECH a few minutes ago. I just went for a lower priced one I don’t want the night vision.
lol @ allied country. Why? What a stupid way to shop
Eotech has given a lot of money to democrats such as Diana Feinstein
@@RealDogeOperator and President Biden gave you a stimulus check so stfu. I will take two more eotechs plz...
Yep. I buy American if I have a choice. Sometimes you don't.
Great review - you just saved me about $300. One day I may splurge on an EOTech, but today is not that day. Thanks for the review - I'm gonna pick myself up that Holosun!
You can't go wrong with the 510C!
@Paul Bargo after everything I've seen (and I've done my research) it seems it really comes down to personal preference. If you're not running night vision the 510C has a lot of advantages (battery life, more settings, smaller, weighs less, and has a crisper dot). Sure the EOTech may have it on night vision, but most civilians like myself don't need to run night vision. But it does come down to personal preference - sure the EOTech is proven in battle but this 510C has gone through stress tests and torture tests and compared to the EOTech. If you want to save a couple hundred this is not a bad option, and it is not "trash".
@Paul Bargo Ahh yeah that could have a big play in it - the military will always buy the best of the best but some of us aren't as fortunate.
@@darktitan_3493 That’s rare they buy the best. Most of their standard issue stuff is garbage lol.
You definitely pointed me in right direction 💪
Thanks for the comparison.
Nice review! Reliability, durability and simplicity ... I own the Eotech.
Amen. I have a HHS on my SCAR and it works great. And if you believe that battery life for the Holosun I have a bridge I wanna sell you.
The U.S. Military Forced A Recall Of The 500 Series Range EOTech For Major Malfunctioning Via Not Performing Per Both Hot & Cold Temperature Specifications!
@@dan0alda568 I have both the holosun and an xps2-0. The holosun sits on my 6.8 power on 24/7. Think I've changed the battery once in the past 3 years. Now it does auto off after a bit and auto on with any motion, but the battery life is outstanding in it.
@@michaelmignone5869 I couldn’t care less. That battery life argument is pure hilarity. I’ve got a 1200 dollar optic riding on a 3k weapon. A set of AAs (I have the HHS3)is a drop in the bucket, to say nothing of ammo. They didn’t come up with that tech on their own, they have taken from this and that and made a good product, I won’t deny it. But when you take others tech and have it built at slave wages I would hope you would come in at a low price point. So lets copy Aimpoint’s LED circuit, Trijicon’s shock chassis and come in at 1/2 the price. I am by no means all American, I have an Elcan, Aimpoint, a Japanese Vortex, Nightforce, and Zeiss etc. But the Chinese government is despicable, and any money I can deny them, I will. I won’t tell another man how to spend his coin, if you are good with it, play on player. Look at all you’ll save on batteries.
@@dan0alda568 So battery life is important.... until it's not .
well you missed your opportunity, why you didnt try the holo with the dot only in nv mode? if thats possible, i would assume way less bloom to be presented.
Great video. I was between these two and landed on the Holosun, depsite all the peer reviews leading me towards the EOTech. I think I made the right decision.
Great comparison thank you
Love the 510c. I was surprised that I'm faster and more accurate with it than a red dot. Wanted the Eotech but with my old eyes the reticle is almost useless without my glasses on while the Holosun is far clearer. If I was 30 I would probably like the Eotech more. Ended up with two 510c but do have other optics with etched reticles if needed too.
You are not supposed to focus on the eotech reticle. If you focus on the target like you should the eotech is just as crisp. Just FYI. Took me getting used to as well.
510c is a red dot...it’s not actually a holographic
I like the Holosun. I’m 41,It’s not like my old Marine ass is fighting much more than paper targets nowadays 😂. However, when I spend big, I like Meopta or Meprolight. I think EO makes a damn nice product, but it’s image is too grainy for me. That’s personal, not a knock on its quality.
I ended up getting the eotech because I put it on my night vision rifle. The night mode is definitely a deal breaker if you're using on a gun used at night. I use my pet 15 mostly but that eotech is tight though my nods
Great video ordered the holosun green dot
Have both , but the HOlosun in green is something else , in regards of resolution , sharpness and definition 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Oh just stop teasing us peasants with your green dots. 😭
i have the same best red dot for the money got mine just around 250 love the features on it and it blow the eotech u can buy 2 holosun for the price of one eotech lol
With NV just use the single dot with the Holosun. That works just fine! Anyway Holosun needs to work on the NV setting…
A great review, thank you.
Great review, thank you
Eotech can take some drops and bumps. Also, the Eotech emitters can’t be blocked by mud or debris. Eotech’s dot won’t magnify under a magnifier like a red dot. You’re paying more for Eotech’s proven ruggedness, but both are great options for civilians. Holosun and Eotech are great for my astigmatism.
The non magnifying of Eotech is a myth. It's not black voodoo science. A magnifier magnifies both just the same. But also magnifies the surrounding too.
I had both optics. The eotech sold.. I never get used to the reticle. Also hated the default brightness every time you turn the optic on and the battery life. Yes maybe is durable etc but bad features. I use the 510 now and I have 1 negative. After 2 years for safety I decided to change the battery and the head of the battery tray mounting screw broke off. I ended up with a broken hard screw in the soft aluminium body. Holosun never replied to my problem. Terrible customer service . The screw was faulty. I managed to drill that out without a scratch etc but had to use a bigger screw. Its not visible but I know there is an issue. Maybe just a fluke but because my experience with a customer service I would think twice to buy anything from holosun again.
I had no idea there was a separate mount. Appreciate the heads up. Shame holosun didn’t include it.
Damn! That was comprehensive! Thanks
One word not mentioned in the video... parallax. The Eotech, as a HWS, has essentially zero parallax compared to the Holosun reticle. And then put a 3x magnifier in front of both on it to try to hit a 10 inch circle out to 300 yards and parallax error of 5-10 MOA on the Holosun means missing the target even with good elevation hold-overs (like on the Eotech XPS 3-4 or 3-2).
Some additional things I believe the Eotech has over the holosun are 1) if the glass breaks it still works 2) The center dot stays 1 MOA when magnified, shooting out farther is easier, because the dot doesn’t cover the target. 3x on a 2 MOA holosun is now a 6 MOA dot. 3) holographic has little parallax, so if you do use nods there is some flexibility on eye positions. LED’s typically are not parallax free although holosun seems to imply it maybe is on this optic.
It's entirely possible my brain is too simple to understand the magnified 1 MOA thing but I honestly don't. At 1x the dot has a size, which is roughly 1 inch at 100 yards. At 3x the dot has the same size relative to the target, and will appear roughly 3x bigger through the magnifier. The same applies for 2 MOA dot. 1x3 = 3, not 1. I actually did the Lego figure thing to see this for myself. It's not clear to me that the EOTech dot looks much smaller magnified.
@@TacticalAccountants I watched a shot show eotech booth explanation of the dot. What they said was the dot is actually smaller than 1 MOA, but the human brain eye can only see down to 1 MOA. So magnified it’s still 1 MOA. I will see if I can find it...
@@TacticalAccountants here it is kzhead.info/sun/iZqEY9uXj5OEqIU/bejne.html
@@TacticalAccountants I guess another difference is you can get an Eotech that runs on AA batteries whichi forgot until I saw it in the video. 🙂
@@davidschlageter5962 Okay that is interesting. I'm going to have to test it at longer ranges than 5 yards with a Lego guy.
Great comparison!
Just bought an EXPS3 to replace my old EXPS2 and sold my 510C. I had that EXPS2 for 10+ years and the ONLY issue I had with it was that the reticle got so dim I couldn't see it in bright daylight. Again, that was after roughly after 10+ years of use...
Holosun makes some great optics, I have used Leupold DPP, RMR type2 3 and 6 moa, Burris FF3, Vortex rds, and the Holosun 507k is the best compact pistol red dot, their 508t is the best pistol dot over rmr's, their 507 vulcan model acss is one of the best and probably better than a rmr overall, especially for offset. 509 is probably better than the aimpoint, for smg pdw type deals. Holosun + Acss and new vulcan tech circle, way to go. My favorite optics = Eotech + vortex micro 3x magnifier and acogs ta31/11/33