Fighter Pilots React to TOP GUN Maverick - Mav's Bombing Run and the Final Mission Scenes(5 of 8)
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Gonky and Mover react/breakdown Maverick's grounding, stealing an F/A-18 to prove his point, and the final mission (up to the shoot down). Part 5 of 8 Mover Ruins Movies • Save 20% off the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 with Promo Code CWL-TFH4-20 by following this link: bit.ly/tmpromocwl
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“And the jet is hard broke. Maintenance is now PISSED” had me in tears 😂
As a Mako maintainer...I can relate! 😁
Redball
It’s written off so don’t worry about it
@@178vxranger As an 18 maintaner, same
Maintainers HATE him!! Learn how he turned his jet from FMC to Hanger Queen in one simple trick!
Fun fact; The female controller communicating from the E-2 Hawkeye with the strike group is an actual Navy E-2 Instructor. Capt. Brian "Ferg" Ferguson, the technical advisor for the film, grabbed her to assist in correcting the dialog for these scenes and Kosinski, the director, decided to just film her doing it. Source: The Fighter Pilot Podcast interview of Capt. Brian "Ferg" Ferguson by Vincent "Jell-o" Aiello.
We noticed that at least one of their Picture or Threat calls were legit.
@Matt H Yep, she's the real deal. They just had her dumb down the dialogue so we civies could at least comprehend it.
Pay attention internet. This is how it’s done: Fun fact followed by the sauce. Well done D-Rez!
@@Gaidalcain2179 Appreciate it!
I did really appreciate that they got the E-2 support in this movie! Very few movies or shows give any time to those support craft. Battlestar Galactica’s Raptors are one of the only other good examples I can think of.
As a former DCC (Dedicated Crew Chief) I would like to thank you for noticing that, "the Aircraft is hard broke and Maintainance is pissed."
I was a Framer for F-18s, at the "Rag" we had a whole flight (5 bird go full of students) come back in El Centro with cat 2 overstresses. I was "FDC" so I was walking to each recovering aircraft, noting what was broken on each one... 1,2,3,4 rolled in with no issues but a cat 2 overstress... #5 rolls in, with the instructor of the sortie... He hops out "Great jet Gents, have a good Friday"... I hit him with the standard "shooter" question " is there any issue with your 'G' override paddle?" He says, "Why the hell would that be an issue?" "Well sir, every other aircraft requires a cat 2 overstress inspection, I was wondering why you had the single exception"... His eyes got big, and he took a deep breath, he said "Y'all will have a couple cases of beer here shortly, I'll have a word or two on debrief"... We finished work Saturday morning, and the party that proceeded was something for the record books.
@@hackofalltrades446 Can you explain all of that for a layman? Sorry if it's a bother but it sounds interesting but I am completely lost
@@Taygon45sure. So the other few jets were fucked from g forces hoss. He acted like his jet was in good condition and didn’t need to be checked cause he was the big hoss. Now this is all pure speculation as I have absolutely no idea what is going on anyway. I do fly a dcs jet though 😅
@@Taygon45I am not an aviator, so take my help with a grain of salt. It sounds like they were doing maneuvers and the students used the 'G override paddle' to go past the limitation the planes are set too. The instructor did not use it, so his plane did not get any stress from high G maneuvers. The Tech asked him if there was a problem with his paddle because the instructor's plane didn't have those stresses, I assume that the Tech assumed that they were supposed to be doing high G maneuvers and the instructor just wasn't able too. The work is probably hard/annoying/time consuming, or any combination of the three, so the instructor gave them beer to stay on their good side, and said he would talk to the students for, presumably, being utter morons.
@@hackofalltrades446just say over-g bro. In the air force the pilots would bring us a case of beer for giving us a 12 hour shift for me (an ADCC and my DCC)
I think Rooster was hyperventilating because he was thinking of his dad. He looks out over the water, and the camera even focuses on it, and was probably thinking about his dad’s death. That could explain his reluctance to increase his speed until he said “Talk to me, dad.”
Ya think...
nice catch.
Or not.
No doubt about that it was so clear the story could only go in that direction but if a third movie really comes what will we see than Maverick as Admiral or still Captain i think with planes it will get difgicult too hes not the guy flyong 5th generation fighters i could even imagine seeing him in a F-16 or a F-15 why not but never in a Su-33 or any other Russian plane and all Navy fighters are outsorted if a new movie would ever come but were talking of Maverick damn he would even have the chance against them if he sits back into his old F-14
Skywalker callback, like the no-lase drip, and the whole canyon run and port to hit come to think of it. Use the force, Luke
"radar missiles are for nerds". Best line ever
@Geek Growling Sidewinder’s server has entered the chat. Love getting AMRAAM’d by friendlies!
@Geek Exactly 🤣
@Geek Now I understand why the Rafale, Eurofighter and Gripen have those extra small wings (canards = katanas)
For nerds and DCS Pilots
Just came here to post exactly that! Lol
One thing I loved about this movie was that they made the mission so clear in the training sequences. By the time the mission happens, I knew where everyone needed to be, what they need to do and when. It made the tension higher when things started going wrong. Even a child could understand it. Was it realistic? I don't care.
It's because the movie was made for children, with cartoonish mission and unprepared villains.
@@atanasangeliev the plot isn't even necessary in this movie and still bloody great. Stop bitching about it.
@@atanasangelievah yes the sequel to Top Gun a 1980s movie hit… for children…
@@atanasangelievfeels like you meant to comment this about a different movie lmao
@@sammosajowouldn’t call top gun anywhere close to a childrens movie
12:09, To know that real pilots witnessed tomahawks flying overhead to the target in Desert Storm enhances that scene more. Must have been a crazy sight to behold as a pilot in real life.
"...and the jet is hard broken maintenance is now pissed..." 🤣 as a maintainer I couldn't stop laughing at that lol
What does hard broken mean? And why would this happen in a realistic situation?
@@aaronlebeauf423 essentially Maverick exceeded the amount of G forces that Super Hornet is limited to by McDonnell Douglas/Boeing. And to put it bluntly, the maintenance squadron attached to that fighter wing is going to have to strip that aircraft down the the bare hull and inspect EVERY nut, bolt, structural member, wiring harness, exterior panel, both engines, and avionics for stress damage. (And a later scene reveals that the jet in question will NEVER fly again because of the extensive structural damage Maverick caused) As some of the actual Air Force and Navy Aviation maintainers have mentioned in their comments, this jet just went from Fully Mission Capable, to Hangar Queen in a few seconds.
@@digitalrailroader yikes well that really puts it into perspective for me. Thanks for the explanation.
@@digitalrailroader My question is, wasn’t that 10g move in that type of plane required for the plan? Aren’t all the pilots going to have to do the same thing in order to be successful? Or is it because Maverick chose to do it faster than the original 2:30 time as the reason he went that fast to caused him to reach 10g? I’m also not sure what the purpose was of Maverick shaving off 15 seconds from the original plan.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 that is because it's a movie and the movie doesn't care about what sort of G forces the planes can actually handle. In the real world they wouldn't be making pilots do that since it would damage the planes and is not good for the pilots either.
Control to Maverick: “Uh we don’t see a mission scheduled today.” Mover: “This is realistic comm, this happens even on a good day.” Lol.
I’m a 737 pilot and there were a few things during this film that caught my attention that needed clarification 😂 you guys give the perfect balance between ‘this isn’t realistic’ and ‘yeah but it’s for the movie’. Can’t wait for the next!
Well said
Why can't it be a realistic movie? Have you seen Das Boote? Saving Private Ryan?
@@MultiJamesman because most people commenting here are actual aviators.
@@MultiJamesman Not for planes. Shots wouldn't look anywhere as cool with realistic positioning. It's hard to get more than 1 jet in a shot realistically
@@MultiJamesman SPR is very authentic but there's still plenty of unrealistic stuff in it.
“They all look like their going to their deaths” …”they are, this is a stupid plan.” 😂
"You're grounded, Captain. Permanently" "Airlines😃" HAHAHA Too true.
Maverick has that “whatever it takes” Captain America in ‘Endgame’ energy taking missiles for people (however unrealistic) and I am here for it.
Rooster was like "on your left"
Totally unrealistic, yes. Does it MATTER? Not to me when watching the movie.
Yes I agree. VERY UNREALISTIC
@@QuitCryingYouLost theoretically could be done
@@bobbythomas6520 Wrong very unrealistic.
As a former sub guy I’ll have to plug an SSGN as the weapon of choice here….launch a 50 Tomahawk salvo and do the whole thing undetected, no need to even put an easily detectable surface ship in the area. The carrier group in TGM didn’t seem too concerned with their own survival, so the enemies naval arm doesn’t appear to strike fear, and the USN somehow caught the enemy off guard (Enemy motto: “It’s not suspicious at all that there’s a carrier battle group parked right over there, so we’re going to send our on-patrol aircraft somewhere else”)
They didn't show the logical next scene, which is the Navy getting the hell out of dodge while defending against anti-ship missiles. Rather than celebrating on deck they should be shoving the Tomcat overboard to clear the deck since half the air wing would be on CAP anticipating a counterattack. But it's movie realism, so the heroes get their moment. As for Tomahawks, I mentioned it before but I think the attack requires sending a bomb straight down the shaft like a bowling ball in the gutter to get deep enough to take out the facility. I don't think a non-GPS guided Tomahawk could have that precise a flight profile. Of course if the bad guys had put a bend in the air shaft the plan wouldn't have worked at all. :D
@@apparition13 It's so unbelievable that there is an HVAC guy in Iran getting murdered by the Republican Guard along with his entire family believable. 😅
@@Heckleburger Not as unbelievable as the USN sneaking a carrier group into the Caspian sea*, since that's the only part of Iran that looks anything like Washington state. Of course the airbase coordinates are point Nemo, which is a spot in the south Pacific that is the spot on Earth that is the farthest from land, so it can't actually be Iran either. And if there is land there, I think the little boy was wrong about Maverick being on Earth. *Into the Black Sea, then the Sea of Azov, up the Don, across the (too small) canals connecting to the Volga, down to the Caspian, across lots and lots of Russian territory, without being noticed. Then sneak out again. I take it back, the conifers are the most unrealistic part of the movie.
Considering the promotion of the heavy cruiser Moskva to submarine in the Black Sea and the general ineptitude of the Russian navy, I don't think there's too much to concern a carrier group.
My gramps was a Navy pilot during Nam and his reaction to the plan when we watched this movie the first time was "Why the hell would you risk a carrier like this? Just tell them sub boys to sneak up, pop them in the mouth, and scoot away while everyone wonders where the hell the missiles came from. That's what they are for!" So, if it means anything to ya, gramps would 100% back your plan lol.
My absolute favorite part of this video is how excited you guys get for the accurate radio comms and dialogue, obviously because you guys have been there… Thank you both for your service and thank you for the entertainment and insight for those of us who love jets but will never actually have the experience.
I am far from a military mind, but the comms in these moveis always give me chills. I can't imagine how it feels when you know your shit and then hear accurate comms in a movie. That must be such a rush for them. I know they say some of it is not correct, and you can actually kind of tell when the movie dialogue feels out of place to the more accurate comms. But it's still really fuckin' awesome and gives me goosebumps every time.
But it’s just a script they are reading. I don’t see why they are so impressed?
@@JSE4 I think because she is really a trainer for that plane, really in the military. She was so good, they said to just let her do it instead of teaching some random actor.
I wish I could have seen this movie in the theater more than once. This scene where Maverick runs the course, everyone was so silent. You could hear the cheer when he made the run and hit the target.
I saw it 3 times, and once on iMax. My dad was a 20 year Navy pilot(helos and multi-engine) and he lived long enough to see the trailer for TG:M. I think he would have enjoyed this one even more than the original.
It was certainly cool to look and listen to.
E2 and Fleet are Getting an awful good radar track on those “5th Gen” “Stealth” SU 57s.
I mean I don't think the SU-57 has a very low RCS. The engine nozzles are very big. The aircraft seems to be bare metal. The amount of nuts and bolts on the outside are insane.
That part’s accurate no? Su57 isn’t that stealthy
The Su 57 was never as stealthy as the Raptor or the F 35 in the first place.
If the radar operates outside the X-Band it would get a better picture. Also stealth is the front of the aircraft not above it.
@@jennyarriola324 , and we are need to take attention to that they were NOT servicing special coverage of the plane. So there’s stealth only on the paper.
No mountains have a circular bowl like crater, except volcanoes. And a volcano would not have a crater that deep. And if it was a volcano, you wouldn't want to put your secret lab inside it. So basically they put their secret evil lab in a volcano like an evil villain cliche. Plus, it would have become a very deep lake.
Valleys exist, but not that extreme.
No doubt, a tank of sharks, with fricken lasers on their head, died in that bombing.
@@icecold9511 Oh sure.. but a valley will have a direction downhill.. In this case there would be a deep lake in the middle of this thing.
It’s Iran tho. You wouldn’t take a goat to prom but here we are.
Isn't diamond head on Oahu a crater kind of like that? Mt St.Helens is a close shape but has a hot floor. It could be a meteor crater(though a bit narrow) or the eroded core of a collapsed extinct volcano. (actually fairly common, but filled with a lake or glacier so yeah very bad for a secret lab)
"And the jet is hard broke. Maintenence is now pissed." I felt that as many others did I'm sure 😪
Can we take a second to admire just how much SA Mav maintains during all the SAM shots? He looks out the window, sees a missile in the air, identifies which aircraft it's targeting, recalls which pilot is in that aircraft, and then recommends a threat reaction. I can barely do this during ACMI debrief.
If you're still flying when you're 60, you'll be able to do it too. It's like old man strength, but with jets.
Well, it IS a scripted movie, sooooo
Gonky: "I've planned some missions before and was like, meh that's an ok plan". That cracked me up. Going into war all like "nah it'll be fine".
‘We’ll figure it out when we’re there’
Fnarr fnarr fnarr.... Tatiana!
You gotta have confidence, and I think that's what separates them from us. That irrational belief to make the impossible possible. They are a different breed. I am not American, but these guys and many like them have my eternal respect. You gotta have some real stones to put your life on the line like that.
Blue angel finger tip butt trail is what I'm going to use to describe random things in my life from now on.
😂
I noted the similarities between this mission and the battle scene in the original Star Wars. 1. Rooster talks to Maverick like Luke talks to Biggs Darklighter before the mission. 2. The mission itself is similar. 3. Luke is rescued by Han Solo in Star Wars: Maverick and Rooster are rescued by Hangman in this movie.
Yeah it's pretty much the same plot, only difference is that Yoda didn't die in this one.
Spot on.
"Rooster ,Iceman never told you what happened to your father" ...
As a former bulk fueler. I can confirm, the F35 was down for maintenance. It also caught on fire too.
I hate when people will just point out every single thing wrong with a movie but these guys do it so right, they are telling us what would really go down in the military while still having a love for it being a movie!
Wait sorry about that I read your comment wrong lol
Mover is like the cynical older brother who picks the movies apart, exposing every plot hole. whereas Gonky is the younger brother who sees the errors but ignores them for the enjoyment of the movie lol. All love tho haha
Gonky is the happy boi with that helicopter ball cap and pop in his hand and that default smile 😃
I love how giddy these guys get explaining such a specific career that so many will never know what it’s like to experience. So cool
As a Airframe Structural Repair Tech 23 yrs retired yeah at 4.15 ish mark "and the jet is hard broke maintenance is now PISSED!" I can confirm structures and crew chiefs would be absolutely pissed and preparing for 12 hour shifts !
i lost it when he said "Who gave him the jet!?" and I'm here like.... "Damn... that is a good question." 😂
Heaters and guns only radiates big-ball energy, absolute chad move!
Hearing both of you transported me back to the Ready room. I was enlisted aircrew but commissioned as an 1830. The Squadron guys used to call me “the Ship’s Intel guy” which was a pretty damn big complement. Thanks for keeping it real and taking me back to the best and worst of times.
Ppp
Having known pilots in college, they love nothing more than flexing their knowledge. Every pilot in the world watching this movie “welll ackshoealy”
"I could totally do that" I love the excitement in his eyes. A different breed!
Best part of this entire video was the reaction to Comanche's comms. I think they had a real E-2 crew for those scenes. They knocked it out of the park.
Yup. They liked her so much they put her in the movie. Same thing happened with someone in the original. Tech advisor is doing such a good job showing them how to do it they ask them to do it.
Yup. About time the Hawkeyes got some love from Hollywood
@@apparition13 Also happened with R Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket. He was brought on to advise an actor how to play a drill sergeant. But when they saw him do it, they said "Nope, put Ermey in the movie."
@@Astro95Media modern day remake would be so funny. “Steers and queers” “Sir we aren’t allowed to say that anymore! Get down and give me twenty Drill Sergeant!”
For the totally uninformed about this stuff, when in the video was that?
He used the force. He bullseyed that womp rat. xD I think when they say things like emergency jettison, or Maverick's explaining things they should already know, it's for the audience's benefit. This is so entertaining and informative. You guys are awesome!
“Why are they briefing all the deck hands do they need to know ?” 😂😂😂😂 TG will never be the same. These guys should be mandatory technical advisors for any & all fighter pilot movies going forward!
Mover and Gonky best duo ever! You two need a weekly KZhead show just discussing and talking about all types of stuff!
WOMBAT TOO!! Pilots of the round table lol
@@ryanrahebi9490 Good call!
Tell him to talk about the UFO patents the US navy filed with the UAP videos released he wont do it i ask he still hasnt responded
@@jagerblitze8288 FBI are watching 😂
The new Mystery Science Theater 2022!!
Retired USAF C130 Loadmaster, the weapon system that scared me the most was the ZSU 23. Flying in Irag/Afghanistan in 2003; we were confident we could defeat the SA 7 and other lower tac missiles, but that gun would just plain kill you. I really enjoy your "Mover ruins movies", please keep doing it.
Though it doesn't happen often, infantry get to see demos in training of what happens when you try to close with AAA rapid-fire guns platforms. They literally cut infantry lines in half and also soft skinned vehicles. That's the sort of 'infantry walks into an ambush' scenario, but even still... not something you want pointed your way.
that gun is freaking awesome.huge bullets! there are versions zsu 23-2,-3 and 4 and there is a good video from one crazy russian shreding everything with it
The Shilka was my primary target on the battlefield as an M47 Dragon anti tank gunner in the USMC. 1986
@@68pishta68 Same with us, all AA assets, before tanks, in 1991, although the opportunity never materialized.
Paramount needs to hire you guys as consultants for the next Top Gun sequel.
This was such a good break down. I served in the marines so it was good listening to some of your callouts.
These videos are immensely entertaining. Yes, it's "just a movie" (and a damn fine one!), but it's always good to hear from the experts!
i loooved Top Gun (1). i am a huge military aviation enthusiast and i will skip Top Gun 2 (i will save my inflation money for bread/ammo/shelter) not necessarily in that order
Like they said its like seeing Mystery theater 3000 or Cinemasins.. we love the sarcasm and critic from those who know and that doesnt mean we hate the stuff
I find it amusing.
@@JK-dv3qe From someone that prefers accuracy and realism, Top Gun 1 was trash compared to Top Gun Maverick. Yeah I mean it was cheesy but the flying was unreal.
@@JK-dv3qe the movie was incredible. No movie is going to be 100% accurate, its intention is to entertain. The story may be cheesy, but the star of the show was the jets with the cast playing secondary roles. The greatest flying scenes of any movie or documentary of all time.
"Radar missiles are for nerds, dude..."; T-shirt grade material right there. 🤣
I spent two summers in Coronado, the first few months at the BOQ on base. I was the guest of a Captain's daughter- he was away teaching ROTC in Oregon when I got to Coronado and wouldn't meet me until months later. By the time he got back I was staying in his house with his two daughters and wife. Their entire family served in the US Armed Forces in some capacity- he and I would stay up til late and he would tell me about his old war stories from Vietnam, while I watched him down a bottle of gin. By the time I left their home, he gave me a key to their house and told me I would always be welcome there. The two of you reminded me of him. Thank you, and keep' em coming.
‘ “Oh no, Airlines! Now you can afford two P51s”. I spat out my coffee, mostly through my nose. Your commentary turned this burner into a comedy classic. Thank you 🫡
I'm so jealous of you guys getting to fly f18s. I became an engineer, but I always wanted to be a pilot or astronaut. Thank you for serving our country.
I also love how when Mav & Phoenix rolled through under the bridge, they did so in opposite directions, but when you see them come out of it, they are both going back level from the same high side. lol
You see Phoenix immediately roll left as soon as she clears the bridge though and then in the next shot she’s continuing to roll left to match Mav’s bank. Looks fine to me.
@@davidliu323 I was inverted.
@@rotyler2177 *cough* bullshit
@@davidliu323 Correct, we have a shot showing Bob looking back at the bridge while Phoenix begins to roll their aircraft to the left. Then when it cuts from an internal cockpit shot to the external view again, their Super Hornet has *exactly* the same roll angle as in the internal shot (about 15 degrees right), still rolling left. There's zero lost time in the cut. I mean I'm using a lot of words to describe it here, but it's BLINDINGLY obvious for folks with their eyes open.
@@davidliu323 correct...Phoenix rolled left...but Mav rolled right. So one of them overcorrected to show them both leveling out in the same direction. I just watched it again to make sure what I was seeing was indeed what I was seeing.
I love the expert breakdown gentlemen. What a blast watching it with you both! A must see on the big screen and just a terrific film! The Danger zone explained! Thank you!! You have my subscription! Be well everyone! And to those who have defended this great land....our love and gratitude forever.
Even though a lot of this is not correct, it gives me appreciation for all military pilots. I refer to all as the best of the best. Thank you for your service. I enjoy learning from real pilots. Your knowledge of the jets, physics, weapons, etc is amazing!
First time? This is PART 5 of 8. Watch the full playlist here: kzhead.info/sun/h6yen6-ijZ58hq8/bejne.html Before you get triggered and say iT'S JuSt a MoViE or wHy dO yOu hAtE it.... relax, we know. this is Mover RUINS Movies. It's a fun breakdown/commentary/analysis with sarcasm, humor, and real world stories. We both loved the movie.
We loved the movie too, as well as your breakdown. Awesome stuff guys!
I can't wait to watch all of them in sequence together.
Enjoyed it.. Please do one on #battle fairy yukikaze. It has 5 episodes.... Episode 1, 2 and 4 has most of the air combat.. I loved it.. I am sure the viewers will love it too.. But i wanna know from a real fighter pilot how realistic they are.. Please..🙂🙂 see you on the next maverick ep..
Love it. Man, this is so so so good.
When is part 6 coming out? I assume it's when Mav and Rooster go against the SU-57's? That's what I've been waiting for for like 2 weeks.
The opening credits, the carrier shown was the Abraham Lincoln. When it's time for the mission, our heroes launch from the Teddy Roosevelt. Just a little thing I point out considering in the original, the only carrier shown was the Enterprise.
and they get flustered by ancient SA-3s
So wait… the Abe Lincoln was literally only in it for the intro?
The opening is a mix of Abe Lincoln and TR.
The Enterprise and Ranger were both used in the first Top Gun.
@@calvinlee1813 the Enterprise was used for the flight deck shots, the office and briefing areas were the Ranger.
Thank you guys for your service. Thank you for the entertaining breakdown of the movie. It was great!
This is fantastic. This is how you critique a movie while also respecting it as being a great, entertaining film.
Movers been saying for months: "No Way, Never". Gonky: "I could totally do that" Love it to hear it!!!
Can we all take a moment to recognize just how much attention to detail was put into the effect here when you see how large Dagger 3 / Pheonix is in the upper mirror in Maverick's plane? I mean come on, like you say...STOP FLYING SO CLOSE! lol Timestanp: 9:50
timestamps in the hh:mm:ss hour-minute-second are cool in these cases, and provide a quick link to the section you mention in your coment and will also surely get you upvotes :)
Timestamp plz
Where is the timestamp!?
And they still getting 60 fps with those mirrors 😤
@@awesomerikd168 Maybe they're in the closed beta for the Vulkan version?
Thank you Mover, & Gonky for Your service & God Bless You Both.
Watching you two nerd out over air combat is pretty awesome.
Those surface-to-air missiles are indeed SA-3's, NATO name: GOA Both the target acquisition radar and the fire control/guidance radar are missing from the movie. One battalion has 4 launchers, each launcher with 4 missiles. The missiles are guided by the fire control radar to the target (not heat seeking missiles). One battery can attack 1 target at the time, with 2 missiles, only if the target speed is not above 750m/s Two missiles can be launched, with a 5 sec interval. A missile has a 70 kg (154.3 lbs) warhead and 4500 pieces of shrapnel More than 20 countrie still operate the SA-3 system. Cuba, Poland, Russia and Ukraine developed modernisation programmes during the years P.S. This same system shot down one F-117 and a F-16 over Serbia, in 1999
Underrated comment.
That's what I though, salvoing all the missiles at once somehow looked off.
4500 pieces of shrapnel, not 4500 kg ;)
@@Chris11249 :)
Yeah - Newa SC from Poland is what it looks like, way too old for the force that has SU-57. They should have used Pantsir(SA-22 NATO) or Tor(SA-15 NATO), and placed them at the bottom of the valley. How do you get those massive things on the ridge and keep them operating? No way. Also Pantsir does have cannons. Which is what should have been used as the range is too short. Also as the guys mentioned the range of those missiles is good enough to take out all of the planes over the sea.
Love the commentary and insight into which aspects were realistic and which ones were not without being too harsh on the movie. It's a fine balance to keep the mood light
“Well, off to the airlines.” *Laughs in financial stability* *Cries in rejected from Navy ROTC and never achieving the cool factor of my broke friends*
The frag on an Aim-9 is actually really cool how it works. Not sure if it's the same on other missiles, but basically there's a bunch of steel rods wrapped around the missile running parallel to the missile, with alternating ends welded to the adjacent rod (think of like chopsticks where they're connected on 1 end, then imagine a third chopstick connected to the opposite tip of one of the other 2, etc) all the way around the missile with the explosive running down the center. So when it detonates, all the rods expand out in a big "halo" around the missile, creating a huge circular guillotine to slice whatever it hit. I always just assumed it was a bunch of random frag, or the casing of the warhead was the frag material, etc. didn't realize it was that "engineered".
They're titanium rods, not steel.
I grew up in Vegas around Nellis, my Grandfather is retired USAF. I have always gravitated towards fighters my entire life, and I am so damn happy I've found your channel. I love hearing pilots talking about the engineering marvels I dreamed about growing up. INCREDIBLE CHANNEL!!!
As someone who has no clue how any branch of the military work, I loved this whole series breakdown of the film! It was really cool to hear about how everything works. I still love everything about this film and it is one of my favorite that I have ever seen but man it is so cool to see real professionals of this field break everything down! Peace and love friends!
You’ve got to appreciate the microexpressions on his face as well as the small wing mechanisms - and vapor buildup/ trails.
"They know we're coming now." Mover: That's what she said.
Mover with the excellently timed “ that’s what she said” 😂😂
Didn't someone somewhere say the woman on the E2 was an actual Navy person and not an actor? I thought I heard somewhere that she did such a good job they put her in.
What’s the E2?
@@kaylarose1081 The plane with the big radar dome attached. They show it a few times.
Yes this is true
Similar to the chief corpsman in Captain Phillips.
30:52 is the best part of the whole TGM series, they got personally attacked by the Admiral’s reply hahah love it
John Hamm: "They know we're comin now" Mover: "That's what she said" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If I had watched this 5 years ago, I'd have not laughed at a quarter of the stuff you guys were laughing at. However, having played DCS with the Hornet for the past 3 years, I got everything you were saying and enjoyed this video more than just about any other (and that's saying something). Thanks for a great 30 mins., Gonk and Mover.
Gonky: (in hushed voice) "I could totally do it. I could totally do it!" 🤣🤜🤛
This was a really informative and entertaining video! Love it, keep it up
"And maintenance is pissed!" As an Air Force maintainer, I instantly got so angry just thinking about the weekend some poor guys would have lost because some pilot decided to show off. I know we would have found a way to fuck with him over this.
When these guys go IN on the fight pilot protocols 🤯 just makes the movie THAT much better. Gracias muchachos 🙏🏽
Gotta love the energy guys, this is arguably the heart of the movie and you do it justice - so many cool moments and you & Gonky do not disappoint
Navy figter pilots, the baddest MF's on the planet, followed by Marine Corps Snipers. 😎🇺🇸
@@motownbaby6146 What I don’t get is why fighter pilots are a Navy thing at all, instead of just being Air Force.
just going to say, riding the lift on the HMAS Melbourne when she was around and in port, was an amazing experience and one i will never forget
"That's what she said" .... Has me dying 😂😂🤣🤣
I love that your immediate response to the whole 'pulling papers' thing is "Good, he did you a favor!"
Really enjoyed both you guys commentary. Really hilarious to get the perspective. After watching the movie the first time I let the cheesiness blow by without much thought or care. But when I took my two pre-teen daughters to be a part of a cinematic experience (that we rarely see anymore), I realized all the additional explanation and dialogue of what “G’s” feel like amongst other rhetoric was to help the the audience that don’t know anything about being a fighter pilot get a sense of something that is real. Loved the movie, and really enjoyed all the parts of your guys breakdown. Thank you!
"This is the least tactical formation you could possibly have in any theater"; other than the movie theater. Another great reaction video guys.
My favorite part of this video is when they fly under the bridge, and in addition to picking the scene apart Gonky says he'd be able to pull it off.
Maverick not firing Mavericks is the greatest missed opportunity of this movie.
@24:12 Golly! It’d be real nice if the US Navy had a jammer aircraft for this or something. Guess the Growler squadrons were playing beach football 😂
Thank you, Sirs, for your service and also for your review of these scenes! May God bless and protect you, your teams, and your families.
Speaking as a non-military guy I've always considered the word "wingman" as equivalent to "partner" and to a lesser extent "teammate" and that at any point either guy can take lead and their wingman/partner/teammate will back them up. I'm pretty sure that is the definition used by the movie makers and also fairly certain that is how most of the movie audience sees it.
The word has a specific meaning. But the pronunciation is what’s really wrong.
Thanks Mover!! Having so much fun seeing you and Gonky doing breakdowns together. How about Mover and Gonky "ruin" movies in the future?
Top Gun Maverick is by far my favorite movie of the year. Perhaps an all time favorite. Even though real F18s were used in the movie, hearing from you on what’s real and what’s not is actually great to hear.
I love this video format, you two are a great team!
I love it! There's a lot of what i don't know, but now I learn it. Thank you.
a minor thing, but if you look closely in the shot where maverick defends rooster with the cobra maneuver, you can indeed see chaff fired off alongside the flares
Really loving this series, great to have some actual fighter pilot insight into some of this stuff.
Great commentary, Gents. I've had a blast seeing this play-by-play! Air-Force Dad, here. ETA: Thanks for Your service and dedication!
I like these guys. The one says to the other as an answer to flying between the bridge columns, “I could do that; I could totally do that.”
26:03 to my recolection (at least how it works in DCS for the legacy hornet and from reading the NATOPS) the thumb switch is what dispenses the countermeasures. The button on the side is the emergency jett, and the switch on the lower front panel below the AMPCD is what switches you into bypass mode. And that allows you to drop chaff or flare seperately in 2 a piece per press
I loved the "if you know you know" detail of pulling the g limiter paddle on the stick. The filmmakers did do quite a bit of homework and it shows. Granted some of the HUD display modes are wrong but to 99% of the people watching the movie, all that symbology would just be complete gobbledygook.
Exactly, most people wouldn't even read it. So they kept it simple to the more commonly known HUD setup
This movie absolutely has the best fusion of realism, movie magic, and simplicity. The average movie goer will understand a reticle turning red means they have a lock for the bomb even if in real life it doesn't do that.
On the other hand, if the average moviegoer wouldn't recognize correct or wrong HUD modes, then why not display the correct symbology? Just playing devils' advocate here, I mean it's fine either way.
@@cykeok3525 because if they used the correct symbology, the audience would need a 30 minute briefing before the movie to comprehend it. Single moms and truckers ain’t got time for that
@@Silversmok3 I was thinking that they'd ignore it either way!
Great job commentating these scenes 👏 You guys really seemed to be enjoying it. The whole video reminds me of Roy and HG commentating sport in Australia 🇦🇺
That was really cool listening to your banter, well done good balance on both sides of the equations and real, cery entertaining cheers
This one was amazing; love hearing you geek out over good comms, discuss the "what ifs", have a good time chatting about military aviation.
Suspension of reality. The movie was fun to watch. But having real fighter pilots do commentary of what would really be real… great video.
I was a Navy EW and it sucked when helicopters would take off while I was in the Persian Gulf. Many false threats on my system and F14 Tomcat radar was special... Exciting times and I
Im watching this "Mover ruins movies," for the 2nd time, and i love you and Gonkys reviews of Top Gun Maverick. You guys and Wombat make for some of the best videos on KZhead. Thanks, guys. THANKS, GUYS, FOR PROTECTING THUS GREAT COUNTRY