my loader having a hard time loading high explosive anti tank rounds in a m1A2 SEP V2
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he did his reload in 15 seconds. The last one in 9 seconds his learning fast
@MesutSarikan4 жыл бұрын
You should be able to load this in five or six seconds effortlessly, erah
@ngtrfnersgre3654 жыл бұрын
@@ngtrfnersgre365 7 seconds is the standard
@tonystark35154 жыл бұрын
ngtrfn ersgre he’s obviously new you saw how much quicker he got as the vid processed
@banger29984 жыл бұрын
@@banger2998 he needs to get 7 seconds its the standard for an m1 loader
@tonystark35154 жыл бұрын
Moto R6 yeah and he probably do that now that was my point? So why did you comment back?
@banger29984 жыл бұрын
Isn't this the reason he's practicing? I mean, it's like posting a video of a fat man going to gym to mock him, he's there for _that_ reason
@EttoreB933 жыл бұрын
They have dummy rounds to practice ,You should be able to load quickly by the time they are using live rounds
@charlieblue41283 жыл бұрын
@@charlieblue4128 yes - my point was another, the video title mocks the loader, but he's actually training to be better so he's expected to be "not that good"
@EttoreB933 жыл бұрын
@@EttoreB93 he failed because he loaded the wrong shell type at the end there
@Glados10803 жыл бұрын
@@Glados1080 He failed in more than just that way. He was slow, clumsy, forgot to lift the breech handle, etc. Overall, he just sucked ass at loading.
@marshalofod14133 жыл бұрын
@Ettore No, he is at gunnery. He should long be past the point of this ineptitude. Yeah, there is always room for improvement. It is why we trained, after all. However, he would not even be in the loader's position, with most of the TCs I knew. His performance reflects on the entire crew, when at gunnery. (I also blame the TC, since he should've made sure his soldier was up to snuff, unless this loader was new to the unit, and came from a duty station where he didn't serve in his MOS.)
@marshalofod14133 жыл бұрын
Former M1 tanker here, I did it all (Loader, Driver, Gunner, Commander) at one point or another. He was pretty rough off the mark, but improved considerably as he went along. Training, and practice, in a stationary tank in the motor pool, is fine; but learning how to reload quickly and efficiently and consistently in a moving tank can only happen at Gunnery. Look at his (much improved!) technique on the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds: cupping the AFCAP (base) with his left hand, and using the right hand to pivot the round across his left elbow and into the breech. THAT's how you do it. We call it training for a reason. Fair job, soldier. Showed marked improvement as he went along, still room for more improvement.
@robertsutton12952 жыл бұрын
To do this, you need to spend the engine life of the tank and shells? To understand how to load the gun correctly? Funny. Are they standing, but at full speed over rough terrain, after several days of marching? What can wheezer do?
@id_Usher2 жыл бұрын
@@id_Usher Doing basic drills in a stationary tank in the motor pool expends no fuel, no ammo; the tank is off, and the shell is a training dummy. Put the dummy round in the ammo rack. Leave the ammo door open. Open the gun breech. Take the round out of the ammo rack, and put it in the gun. Then take the round out, put it back in the ammo rack. Rinse, repeat. Builds strength, coordination, and speed.
@robertsutton12952 жыл бұрын
congratulations on one of the simplest tasks in the military. loading a gun. a spc e-4 should not even had a bad first load nor should be constantly fixing his glasses during exercises. contacts or corrective surgery. his function is impaired.
@AdmiralZinji2 жыл бұрын
@@AdmiralZinji ok, go lift a 100 pound weight from rest to your head height and put it down once per second. Just because a task is simple doesn't mean its easy.
@whyareyoulookinghere9135 Жыл бұрын
Any idea how much those rounds weigh. By the looks, I'd guess around 70, but shit...maybe 100lb?
@CaptHandsome42 Жыл бұрын
He didn't fail, he was just learning. Yeah, the first reload was terrible, but the last one was pretty good.
@gh-yf4go3 жыл бұрын
TC must use dummy rounds and get him load over an over until he gets the best way to load! loaders must be under 5 sec to load! it seems he is not been trained the correct way.. Im glad Im retired... my loaders were 4 sec loaders.
@eebarreto3 жыл бұрын
@@eebarreto there's bo patch on left shoulder. Still in training. Boot making boot mistake. He'll get better
@julienrooknizan57113 жыл бұрын
@@eebarreto Sure, he took way too long on the first loading, but he definetly showed progress and improvement with each loaded shell. It must be his first day on the job, but with that progression, it won't take long for him to be a decent/good/excellent loader
@crazyman-dg3wh3 жыл бұрын
@@julienrooknizan5711 he's definitely not new, you can see his rank
@FBIAGENT7253 жыл бұрын
@@FBIAGENT725 rank ≠ training.
@julienrooknizan57113 жыл бұрын
When you don’t upgrade your crew in war thunder
@kingofcali60576 жыл бұрын
I always forget that lol
@ditso84045 жыл бұрын
*IT IS RECOMMENDED YOU SPEND CREW POINTS*
@pineapplelapolynesia19945 жыл бұрын
Tis is very true......got my tank destroyer max on reload.......I am enjoying my stuh really well.
@Mr-Ad-1964 жыл бұрын
Apple.
@boilingpapa99054 жыл бұрын
And guess whats in the game now...
@MarcofKenya4 жыл бұрын
He didn’t do a bad job though, I assume he’s new to loading and with time to come he will get better, faster and more efficient at loading
@crusader_wolf11044 жыл бұрын
Those shells are also quite heavy tho
@JackSparrow-uh7zv4 жыл бұрын
i agree. greets from germany
@667DOOM4 жыл бұрын
I don't know what kind of round that is, but I had a chance to grab a 155mm one day back in the army, and that thing was heavy af.
@seongsoojeong95444 жыл бұрын
trash load nearly dropped it.
@cynicaltexan96394 жыл бұрын
His technique is trash loading is all about technique
@meaty45624 жыл бұрын
No patches a brand new pair of coveralls totally buttoned up and squared away with an overused helmet with no commander and an instructor behind him this dude is in AIT learning how to shoot lol he did fine
@ceberskie1193 жыл бұрын
I got the ocp overalls now so mine are still new lmao and all the cvcs we use look like that unless every unit jas new ones
@NTBgaming3 жыл бұрын
@@NTBgaming fair but the video was uploaded 4 years ago and who know how old the video actually is
@ceberskie1193 жыл бұрын
That round he is carrying is 60 pounds, it is very difficult to carry. The average American adult male can hold around 70 pounds.
@IMP_ROM3 жыл бұрын
He's a specialist, you can tell by the velcro patch on his right shoulder.
@walkerfox18463 жыл бұрын
@@walkerfox1846 then i would say he could very well have the unique distinction of being dumb bored and or patriotic enough to enlist in the army already having bachelor's degree. Lol
@ceberskie1193 жыл бұрын
As a loader I can tell he’s brand new to that position. It ain’t easy getting those rounds in quick. He just needs more time and practice. He’ll be fine.
@joey61392 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel bad for him. He is kind of small. Gives him plenty of movement space but those rounds are throwing him around just as much as he is throwing them around. He will get better but it would be easier for him if he put on some weight. Or maybe there is some sort of seatbelt to assist the loader have a fixed position?
@acephantom903 Жыл бұрын
@@acephantom903 I think a seatbelt would be a death Wish.
@pipopoikapelaa5468 Жыл бұрын
@@pipopoikapelaa5468 probably. Just thinking of it as a way to make it easier for smaller guys to perform the role.
@acephantom903 Жыл бұрын
I didnt see any fail, i saw effort in this man loading a big gun
@Jdporte274 жыл бұрын
He didnt meet the required pace of a man who reloads, trust me, if you are being pelted by anti armor in that tank you would HAVE to pick up the pace at least a bit more, every second counts.
@MrMe-rr6nr4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Me I thought his mistake was he loaded AT instead of HE there at the very end
@cluelessnate33264 жыл бұрын
@@cluelessnate3326 that's what I thought at first, welp maybe that is it, but even if he was kinda slow.
@MrMe-rr6nr4 жыл бұрын
anyway that's a training
@fullarmor04 жыл бұрын
@@cluelessnate3326 the fuck are you talking about? those are HEAT trainers and the gunner said sabot one time so he loaded the KE sabot trainer.... edit: at least i think he said sabot cant be too sure but still, those are HEAT and one sabot
@thebiggamers9994 жыл бұрын
Try slinging a round when you are in a confined space , off center and bouncing around. Ain't easy.
@monelfunkawitz39664 жыл бұрын
Its easy... were not boomers. That guy is not thinking about the battle cuz its training. But if he was in an actual battle... he'd be yeeting the shit outta those rounds
@EzMoneyy4 жыл бұрын
LunatiqTV you out here, 10 years old, thinking you can do this
@bimple64253 жыл бұрын
@@bimple6425 im 28 but a 16 year old could do this np. grabbing a heavy cylinder and putting it into a tube is NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
@EzMoneyy3 жыл бұрын
@@EzMoneyy if you're 28 why don't you do your job and leave a newbies job to a newbie. Have you done this before?
@bimple64253 жыл бұрын
@@bimple6425 I've done ACTUAL hard jobs. like construction... bootcamp, army life, yea its all hard, but putting a heavy pipe in a tube and lifting a lever. doesnt require god level focus and work ethic. + a tank is only as effective as its loader.
@EzMoneyy3 жыл бұрын
Not a Loader fail moment. This is a Loader learning moment. He improved very quickly.
@kingkiwi4 Жыл бұрын
It looks like he's in basic training give him a break. Its not that easy
@ppignato3 жыл бұрын
He's an E-4, NOT a trainee.
@TheJimtanker3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJimtanker how do you know he's not in training? Just curious is all
@XM8A13 жыл бұрын
@@XM8A1 As I said, he's an E-4. That means that he's been in the Army at least 1 1/2 years most likely. I was a tanker in the Army for 25 years and an Abrams Master Gunner.
@TheJimtanker3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJimtanker ah ok. I had buddies in basic that came in as an E4, I myself came in as an E2.
@XM8A13 жыл бұрын
@@XM8A1 Well, either way he wasn't very well trained.
@TheJimtanker3 жыл бұрын
When your loader is at 50%
@galax-zee30806 жыл бұрын
Galax-Zee lol
@jet01206 жыл бұрын
Galax-Zee I
@cull31656 жыл бұрын
Galax-Zee the loader is unconscious
@mabinuqi036 жыл бұрын
Galax-Zee Lol get adrenaline rush on him
@Wallhackingplusesp6 жыл бұрын
Galax-Zee 50% crew experience
@scathachsensei11716 жыл бұрын
*He´s all like: Be a tank loader they said, it´ll be funny they said"*
@neuzdost19394 жыл бұрын
See the world they said
@ptbot32942 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine trying to load a projectile the size of a small child into a cramped gun, in a cramped turret, bouncing around and being judged is easy. Props to the loader for giving it his all ✊
@isdrevenge87642 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mentioned how heavy it is
@Kalashnikov4132 жыл бұрын
Yeah a HEAT round is around 50-55lbs while a sabot is only 45lbs
@Gypsy20012 жыл бұрын
Wait you're loading children sized projectiles?! *Casually hides projectile sized children* My ammo is uhh..helpful to limiting the size of our population in more ways than one.
@johnnyanderson2-roblox1852 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyanderson2-roblox185 Yea. Sounds like it has a "large impact radius"
@isdrevenge87642 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is very easy to judge from a comfy seat watching a video, harder to put oneself at risk loading a large breechloader cannon in close quarters, practicing to someday possibly be in even greater harm's way under fire. This loader will keep on doing what needs to be done. "UP!"
@ryanotte67372 жыл бұрын
In mother russia, ammo reloads you
@Utkankaya6 жыл бұрын
Kalamar Oralarda мать Россия!
@Experiment-tp7me6 жыл бұрын
In Mother Russia everyone uses automatic loaders for like 40 years already, dude.
@mihan2d6 жыл бұрын
In soviet russia, you are the meme
@louisphilippe11006 жыл бұрын
Kalamar Oralarda who do you think you are
@dawsonstutzman85786 жыл бұрын
Kalamar Oralarda hahahahahahahah
@JopsYT6 жыл бұрын
World Of Tanks commanders be like: "The loader is injured, he's moving slowly"
@danielparkin20624 жыл бұрын
WE DIDNT EVEN SCRATCH THEM
@gordonallred3904 жыл бұрын
That was close!
@trlolingbear474 жыл бұрын
@@gordonallred390 me: well we must of scratched there paint. gosh i love world of tonks
@m4shermantank523 жыл бұрын
Stock loader + Injured = stock time -50% F k
@02suraditpengsaeng413 жыл бұрын
2:04 Look at how fast he got that last one in there!
@AWoulds3 жыл бұрын
Yep but forgot to pull the lever at the end i believe
@vitamlipidiae73762 жыл бұрын
@@vitamlipidiae7376 I would agree. But the commander said cease fire. Means to stop everything. Maybe to issue a new command or the target probably went down due to to time so there's no point arming if you can't shoot.
@MrJbedo Жыл бұрын
He definitely picked up pretty quick. He's like a tank himself; just needs a little time to warm up. :)
@ItWatchesWithoutEyes2 жыл бұрын
I saw no fail, i saw a soldier serving his country. Also that's the point of training, to get better and faster.
@Kilnor3 жыл бұрын
XD
@adisk8PL3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@chiefsosa63903 жыл бұрын
The fail is that he loaded a he ammo not a aphe
@idracius49583 жыл бұрын
We have qualifications.. in order to qualified as a TANK Crew! if you don't meet those qualifications you can be removed until further retraining is achieved! a slow loader in the battlefield is not good! crew is at risk!
@eebarreto3 жыл бұрын
@@idracius4958 APHE is not really being used anymore. We mostly use HE on fire support vehicles, not MBTs. And those are APFSDS and HEAT rounds.
@RyuzoSan193 жыл бұрын
Just like a dude said before, all I see is effort here, and also, these rounds are damn heavy. I carried one of them once, it's like holding a baby. That shit ain't light.
@bossjet24423 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and he's probably just training. Will get better with time.
@josefstalin45323 жыл бұрын
The failure here is his speed, he also forgets to arm the round immediatly... Looks like he's new, he should get faster with time. And the weight of the round isn't a valid excuse, it's part of his job... plenty of people willing to be part of an armoured crew.
@Fiirow13 жыл бұрын
@@Fiirow1 It isn't an excuse but it's a fact. He'll surely get quicker, you right on that.
@bossjet24423 жыл бұрын
What kind of baby did you have?holy sh
@curlyhei18353 жыл бұрын
Try loading a 155mm shell them shits weigh anything between 90-137lbs
@marquissimms72213 жыл бұрын
The loader has the hardest job in the crew. We must give him credits.
@mrcannotfindaname3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was the aimer
@evildragon17743 жыл бұрын
@@evildragon1774 U mean gunner? No, he shouldn't be considered having the hardest job.
@mrcannotfindaname3 жыл бұрын
Not really,maybe physically but In general it’s the commander,he has to operate everyone and give them orders what to do and decide what’s next,he has to make sure his tank is in tip top shape and his crew are all good.
@phub94893 жыл бұрын
@@phub9489 yup i agree with this one
@evildragon17743 жыл бұрын
@@evildragon1774 Yeah, the Commander is the eyes and the brain of the tank
@omicron51283 жыл бұрын
All I could think of was how miserably overheated and winded you could get dressed like you’re going into the Arctic with a damn mask on twisting, grabbing, lifting, straining, shoving the round down the tube all the while trying to balance in a moving vehicle. Looks like a great way to get heat stroke as well as back and shoulder injuries. I salute all loaders. Y’all are badasses.
@maxsparks51832 жыл бұрын
I could basically hear his supraspinatus tendon just watching him
@AllisterCaine7 ай бұрын
He didn't do toooo bad. Just needs a little kick in the butt and some practice and he would do fine. Great video by the way :-)
@_Matsimus_7 жыл бұрын
Matsimus Gaming thanks for the comment...you got some awesome videos yourself
@eatsleeptankrepeat3507 жыл бұрын
:-) Thank you. I am jealous of you and you''re loader :-(
@_Matsimus_7 жыл бұрын
EatSleepTankRepeat ! are you the loader or the commander becuase i thought the commander that is filming you cause your failing im confused well is not even that bad to fail just need more practice
@redhood04897 жыл бұрын
Matsimus Gaming he might also need to get stronger
@ilyas68577 жыл бұрын
I struggled with the HEAT rounds when I was a loader, he did good!!! Was he new?
@JediTev7 жыл бұрын
Vents can improve his performance by 10%
@pizzafrenzyman6 жыл бұрын
Wot
@juzminbarredo17983 жыл бұрын
Love all the tankers in here offering support for a guy who they see is learning. For a civilian like me, it would have taken an extra glance to see that he was training and not sucking.
@WWIflyingace62 Жыл бұрын
Practice that all he needs. He's learning the technique clearly and refining it on his own. A few more sessions and he should be up to pace.
@Plyst33 жыл бұрын
clearly you need to turn on accelerate crew training or spend a few gold to get a better loader. you should also get a medium gun rammer and maybe vents so he has a +5 boost. also make sure to choose adrenaline loading as a perk.
@finnmurtons87277 жыл бұрын
Finn Murtons What game you play?
@simokoistinen74706 жыл бұрын
All that stuff is in World of Tanks.
@rexbryant6 жыл бұрын
adrenaline rush has saved me so many times tho
@sparks016 жыл бұрын
War thunder is more realistic, just sayin'
@Gotobar6 жыл бұрын
more? underegzaderation
@AlecJohnsonPublic6 жыл бұрын
needs practice, but it comes with time
@tjmertz2897 жыл бұрын
yea, he needs a little practice.
@julietalpha58687 жыл бұрын
Tj Mertz such is life. Im sure hes a pro now and chuckles at his rookie self
@manz78606 жыл бұрын
Manz Spartan IV Ace9 I'm sure he does my friend. Hopefully by now he's a gunner training the next loader on the beast!
@tjmertz2896 жыл бұрын
He's already a specialist. He should know how to load by now.
@timcairns306 жыл бұрын
The last round looked a bit quicker than the previous ones, a lot smoother movement in loading
@trymetal956 жыл бұрын
He's in a moving vehicle bouncing around while loading a gun with a shell the size of a leg. Its not easy! But He's in training and did a good job!
@pinksheep4062 жыл бұрын
When I was younger at a little military museum style place , they had rounds that were dead, but filled to an accurate weight. They were heavy as all hell. Now imagine that in a confined space , full gear , bouncing around in a loud , intense environment. Good job , proud to see people serving their homeland.
@BigEvy3 жыл бұрын
He needs provisions +5% reloading speed +15% armor penetrating 😂😂
@mihaelbilic3236 жыл бұрын
Miko Mišo this ain’t a video game lol
@octobersvryown6 жыл бұрын
Whoosh
@serhoots92466 жыл бұрын
Is this war thunder related??
@chrishansen93236 жыл бұрын
World of tank club
@MuaXuan006 жыл бұрын
Xavier Mondragon Jr world of tanks
@vinegar22906 жыл бұрын
Not bad at all. The problem was maybe the lack of practice (wich is normal at certain point, no one was born knowing everything). The way he grab the shell, or the lack of enough phisical strenght to change it from one hand to the other didn´t look the best. There isn´t a lot of space for the loader, wich makes all movements more difficult, and sure the 120mm shell weighs a lot... Seeing vids everything looks easy, and it´s easy to talk about it as well. I´m sure if I were there, I´ll drop the shell on the floor, load a SABOT when the TC wanted a HEAT, forget to put main gun on ready to fire switch, and who knows what more fails LOL...
@asturiancetorix25527 жыл бұрын
Asturian Cetorix Yeah, it's a training exercise, but in a real war scenario this mistakes costs the life of your crew members, because of it this mistakes are understandable but not forgivable
@justaman99576 жыл бұрын
Well, that's exactly what trainings are for, so you can, you know, train for the real deal. :P
@gharretje6 жыл бұрын
Couldnt agree more he still kinda sucked tho
@BF4ClanTBS6 жыл бұрын
The HEAT weighs around 57 pounds ;)
@mr.3pac8986 жыл бұрын
He is probably in OSUT. He doesnt even have a unit patch yet.
@CokeIsGoodForYa6 жыл бұрын
Tanking long ago 1976-80) and in a place far, far away (Germany) I'll tell you that for a young soldier, loading the main gun during a gunnery run is the most challenging thing there is to do. This soldier was a bit slow but that will improve with practice. God bless our troops.
@rdslover532 жыл бұрын
Me too,only on a Cheiftain!!
@stevenbreach25612 жыл бұрын
I think the issue is forgetting to pull that lever that most likely locks the loading breach. Either way, he’s doing a hell of a better job than I could probably do with my noodle arms.
@alobowithadhd61913 жыл бұрын
Looks really dangerous. When the gun would give him a kick he may be dead.
@sofortwo7 жыл бұрын
sofortwo don't get in the way 😂
@lewisstonehouse84387 жыл бұрын
It's been like that since 1990,you just dont get in the way Some tanks have bars behind the breech to signal how far the breech would go,but this one doesnt. But its really rare to have someone get knocked out by a breech in a tanm
@DrSabot-A7 жыл бұрын
sofortwo it's a tank i would prefer to stay inside and get hit by the recoil than get hit by something else outside
@m4ttyofficialchannel6 жыл бұрын
It's a compromise, too many safety barriers would make it more difficult to load fast, and inside a tank there's very little room anyway so the more barriers the less easy people can move around, which is especially bad if the tank was hit and started burning, those same barriers intended for safety might actually end up killing you.
@G1NZOU6 жыл бұрын
If he is dead he probably didnt listen
@darrenheiberg53166 жыл бұрын
*"we didn't even scratch them"*
@jimmypedoille84824 жыл бұрын
“that one bounced!”
@kangarookidnapper97854 жыл бұрын
That one didn’t go through!
@sarahkutz1694 жыл бұрын
*We dinged them!*
@_Messerschmitt4 жыл бұрын
Eww WoT
@eastonseiler17744 жыл бұрын
gottemmm
@abeirodaloba4 жыл бұрын
You can tell he’s new by the way he pulled and handled that HEAT round. Hes gonna get that time down to 4 or 5 later down the line haha!
@doctahdray97532 жыл бұрын
everybody gangsta until the loader gets shot by a tank shell
@fishy_bolo2 жыл бұрын
This is guy is serving his country. Are you?
@jackgaulsfitnessvlog48025 жыл бұрын
No but wtf are you doing?😂
@CR-pf9qt5 жыл бұрын
Yes I did. I was a loader and a gunner. He needs practice. Tough position but he just needs practice.
@2d404 жыл бұрын
@@CR-pf9qt not complaining like an armchair expert
@vishalgiraddi53574 жыл бұрын
@@vishalgiraddi5357 im not even fucking talking to you dipshit wtf is wrong with you?
@CR-pf9qt4 жыл бұрын
yes, yes I am. Royal Signals, British Army. Currently in Phase 2 trade training
@odinharou71124 жыл бұрын
where's the fail?? fockin' clickbait eh??!! I Respect the Loader, he tryin' the best he can with those big SABOT Round and rumbling tight space ain't easy
@Romanoff.Kalashnikov4 жыл бұрын
Yeah his not his fault those rounds are heavy..except for the last one
@onenudesman49994 жыл бұрын
wait wut, i though those re HEAT
@ZenFattyCat.48694 жыл бұрын
@@ZenFattyCat.4869 they are heat
@goblincleaver_mshm.97514 жыл бұрын
@@ZenFattyCat.4869 HEAT-T T for training
@natjackson3634 жыл бұрын
Loaded the wrong ammo at the end.
@Stubbari4 жыл бұрын
He’s clearly new to the loader role, but he’ll be up to speed real soon with guidance and encouragement.
@NotALot-xm6gz3 жыл бұрын
A good loader is 3-5 seconds on the reloads, depending on the tank and how deep he has to reach for the shells. So i dont see a fail here. The shells are pretty heavy and you cant really be a big dude in that position.
@kristianludvigsen31413 жыл бұрын
Dude that last reload in video was an expert move
@chrisdial-burton34096 жыл бұрын
Chris Dial-burton He just got the new experience level.
@venator56 жыл бұрын
yea but he forgot to put the lever up to fire
@merdanplaco33356 жыл бұрын
Its called muscle memory He just need some time
@n3mezis9796 жыл бұрын
yeah that last ones the fastest
@reoniiya78696 жыл бұрын
M.P. Nation the lever goes up once the door for the ammo(120mm sabot)it's closed
Its the fucking giant Turbine engine what makes that sound!!!
@Cesko_Plny_Fialovejch_Zmrdu6 жыл бұрын
marjua24 I
@MobCaster6 жыл бұрын
lol
@JohnDoe-on6ru6 жыл бұрын
He looks pretty green, and even then he picked up fast towards the end. Mans probably a fine loader by now
@vihurah95543 жыл бұрын
guy reloads faster than my whole tank squad all leveled up fully
@jimy41043 жыл бұрын
that sound is so fucking annoying
@thatguy59357 жыл бұрын
The Dank Potato that's the sound of the engine. It's a gas turbine engine similar to what most modern helicopters use. It's not bad with the CVC helmets on. ;)
@bobbyland67827 жыл бұрын
Atleast you dont have to suffer those radial engines on the M4 Sherman
@DrSabot-A7 жыл бұрын
That Guy it's the hydrolic pump the engine is quiet... it's loud because is moving 9 gallons of fluid every 3 seconds plus the tank acts like a amplifier
@btf_jaytee44477 жыл бұрын
That Guy Older tanks Brbrrbbrbrrbbrbrrbbrbr New tanks *video
@fraychiken6 жыл бұрын
It's actually sound of gun stabilisers
@Boomshakalaga6 жыл бұрын
I feel like many people in the comments never tried to lift a damn tank round that stuff is *DUMMY THICC*
@karelzajic60654 жыл бұрын
Its 41.1 pounds, that's some weak shit
@EnlightenedBro1054 жыл бұрын
Yep. 105mm M 60A1
@johndillard85883 жыл бұрын
@@EnlightenedBro105 whats that in non-freedom measurements? (aka: kilograms)
@pedromiguel7483 жыл бұрын
Pedro Miguel just convert it using google yourself lol.
@ICCUWANSIUT3 жыл бұрын
@@pedromiguel748 around 16 kilograms
@timmocnik34583 жыл бұрын
I was part of a TOW missile loading team, four missiles loaded either side of a Lynx aircraft (eight in total). The first day of training we were a mess. Last part of the drill was engaging the 'arming lever', making the missiles live, something you didn't do until all the team had moved away from the forward and rear blast area of the missiles (in case of misfire) and all of us were forever forgetting to either engage the arming lever or engaging with personnel stood in blast zones. Two days of training it all came together for majority of class except for a few who just couldn't master lightening fast loading/unloading/loading drills or the correct use of the arming lever. First time we carried out live drills all the training and prep worked in our favour, all missiles loaded, fired and unloaded correctly.
@AnonAnonAnon3 жыл бұрын
Loader always forgot to Pull up the lever in order for the gun to fire..
@gamersite993 жыл бұрын
That’s why he is practicing
@yoinks99072 жыл бұрын
Imagine standing behind that gun when it fires Ouch.
@Spitfire__19444 жыл бұрын
In front or in the back? 😉
@einvolkeinreicheineuro74624 жыл бұрын
@@einvolkeinreicheineuro7462 I meant the front because I'm implying the person standing there not the gun itself
@Spitfire__19444 жыл бұрын
Well both are the same, except the rear might not kill you
@TheAmir2594 жыл бұрын
@Kaiser Wilhelm II wanna see that send link pls
@trevorphilips93684 жыл бұрын
electronic builder kzhead.info/sun/kpWDmtdtrX99a6s/bejne.html that's the one Not sure if that guy died though
@chaosraptor25844 жыл бұрын
now it makes sence why my war thunder tank is loading slow
@Kiwoeoe4 жыл бұрын
Dude almost cut his reload time in half at the end, impressive
@kaiyinsmith36262 жыл бұрын
Hey, that's why they call it training! He's doing good, trying hard and getting better. Good job!
@Mike-fx1eu3 жыл бұрын
“Our Loader bought the farm! We can’t fire as fast!”
@pyronite596 жыл бұрын
pyronite59 LMAO
@themeadowlarkminutewithpau81845 жыл бұрын
Facts
@midevolgamingvortex88445 жыл бұрын
My crew must be Irish as they always talk about Ricky O'shea. Being a tanker must pay well with all the farms they buy geeze
@scottmurphy49465 жыл бұрын
Hold my Strv103
@kakakiri26014 жыл бұрын
If you haven't done the job,STFU!
@stevenbreach25612 жыл бұрын
Seems like he's new to loading, I'd say he did a pretty good job though!
@cupofearlgreytea76513 жыл бұрын
His last reload was 6 seconds, so i agree with you :)
@wborworse3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@suprchickn77453 жыл бұрын
I feel bad cause he looks scared... hopefully he gets used to it but the reload form start to finish was much better
@lukester20703 жыл бұрын
Just needs to remember the lewer :D
@codemy6663 жыл бұрын
It's funny how everyone's a tank loader all of a sudden
@booter35762 жыл бұрын
To be fair, just about every comment I've read so far says the same thing. He is new and learning. So far I haven't seen anyone say they could do it better if they'd never been in that loader position in a moving tank.
@johnl5350 Жыл бұрын
I expected the fail to be him getting in the way of the back blast and get his a** knocked to the back of the tank
@ericmcclanahan59383 жыл бұрын
Its happened before.
@randleman34493 жыл бұрын
More like crushed against it really that shit goes back far enough to do that of ur in the way
@theblazingpegasus91513 жыл бұрын
When you spend all the money you could spend on an autoloader for grandma's couch camo pattern
@SharkWrestler4 жыл бұрын
Every soldier has to ask a serious question when being sent into combat: Are you protecting citizens or actually helping politicians currupt other countries.
@timjaba27622 жыл бұрын
Never done it. I'd probably just be trying to stay alive and do my job. It's up to the citizens to police their governments so those situations don't happen.
@aiai4u1092 жыл бұрын
@@aiai4u109 And a solider is also a citizen, yes?
@dakota98212 жыл бұрын
@@dakota9821 soldiers are agents of their governments mostly. Yes, a citizen while out of uniform. That's a tricky subject
@aiai4u1092 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t want to hang around one of those turbines for very long
@hunternelson30183 жыл бұрын
I would’t want have my knees deep in the mud as infantry eather
@skittlesbutwithchocolatein22743 жыл бұрын
Now i already see he is nervous and tired xd ti me that's a good job
@lothardiaz98484 жыл бұрын
my mans doing his best :(
@himecora4 жыл бұрын
IkLms11 have you ever lifted a tanks gun shell? If you have that’s quite impressive
@iiscrzzey39803 жыл бұрын
IkLms11 oh really I thought it would be heavier lmao
@iiscrzzey39803 жыл бұрын
IkLms11 i know like nothing but to be fair its not evenly distributed weight its a cylinder and maybe bottom heavy. But thats just my opinion and i get what ur saying.
@WetBread153 жыл бұрын
@@IkLms11 He looks about 19-23. He may be grown, but hes still pretty young. I'm pretty sure he'll get used to picking up those shells the more he grows up
@sylvain013 жыл бұрын
It seems the worst part about this job would be having the big huge recoiling mechanism right there in your workspace, and never knowing when you'll only have a seconds notice that it's slamming back.
@gage54843 жыл бұрын
IMagine getting hit by that
@ineedaname81053 жыл бұрын
Once you shout "UP", you stay back till the blast. As easy as that. Loader job is difficult, but not complex.
@burningsinner11323 жыл бұрын
That guy learned real quick, though. In just a few reloads he cut down on his time by a lot. He's likely new to doing this and when you consider he's lugging a massive fucking shell like that in a rocking vehicle confined in a tight space, yeah that won't be easy for a newbie. That takes time and practice to get used to before you can have it down like clockwork.
@elitebelt3 жыл бұрын
where does he fail? bit slow maybe and bit scared of the "blowback" and sometimes forgets the lever but fail is a bit harsh :D btw whats that lever for? i assume its somekind of safety? we had a control panel in leo2 that does job when pressed fire and also u had to press either heat or apds for the calculator (also stops the gun moving for loades safety) but we had a huge tray to catch the shells. witch leeds me to my final point I love the layout and extra room of the fighting compartment
@autorage53377 жыл бұрын
Autorage It's the breech lock. You fire, breech block slams open and ejects firing pin assembly and you load a round push the block up and lock it.
@Reemuson7 жыл бұрын
Autorage clearly you have never been on a tank lol
@eatsleeptankrepeat3507 жыл бұрын
yeah i was just wondering since its the same rheinmetall l44 smoothbore gun used in leopard 2a4:s or l55 in a6's and we didn't have the manual breech lock. It's locked automaticly after u push the shell in.. the down side is if u need to remove the shell it's a bit slower.. since the tool to open the breech lock in under the gun and quite clumsy to use.
@autorage53377 жыл бұрын
Sadly I have :D I'm trained commander for leopard 2. Just a different tank but the gun supposed to be the same. And excuse me for my bad language... Never thought the names in english.. like that huge tray.. in finland we call it vetäytymissuoja.. witch translates to retriet cover or something like that.. since the breech moves something like 350mm after fired.. It also collects the shell cases.
@autorage53377 жыл бұрын
EatSleepTankRepeat ! That's why he's asking you to expatiate on your [rather vague] title. I was genuinely curious as well.
@Astronetics7 жыл бұрын
0:30 I was like ow god dont drop the round
@theequalsgamer20747 жыл бұрын
TheEqualsGamer its not a explosive found its a test round
@LubckeEnjoyer7 жыл бұрын
I mean not a explosive round its a test round
@LubckeEnjoyer7 жыл бұрын
Thomas LOL Hansen But still. Imagine that he would drop 50kg on his foot. Or on his knee.
@g1g3l6 жыл бұрын
It was an explosive round
@harborwesp38966 жыл бұрын
what happens if he drops it?
@reoniiya78696 жыл бұрын
You can see the progress he made by counting the seconds he took on the first reload compared to the last one
@qotemdfk3 жыл бұрын
That last one tho, he's learning. He'll go on and make his crew proud and strong.
@generalbandege11842 жыл бұрын
I don't see anything wrong other then he's a bit slow loading and the rounds are to heavy for him
@WalshContractsLtd_Fs227 жыл бұрын
Darragh Walsh a slow loader in a tank gets you all killed. Just needs practice and some weight lifting. It comes with time.
@donniemontoya93006 жыл бұрын
Looks like someone needs some whey protein
@judgemental92536 жыл бұрын
John Smith because it is the correct answer that is asked by multiple people.
@GEMTelemaco6 жыл бұрын
They should give him lighter rounds. Actually he should just PT more.
@Likeggs5 жыл бұрын
Donnie Montoya i’m sure your fat ass could do better
@bigboy123-95 жыл бұрын
He just needs some gym time to develop his upper body strength and he'll be fine.
@redhorse74587 жыл бұрын
Everyone gangsta until that loader dude was holding a shell with his right hand already a few seconds after he loaded the previous one
@nauuwgtx3 жыл бұрын
he looks sick, also the rounds look too heavy for him :/
@speedkiller30264 жыл бұрын
I assume the loader is still new. Plus the shell is 53lbs. I'm sure he'll get used to the weight and get faster in the future.
@fortress22704 жыл бұрын
@@IkLms11 Those aren’t “mistakes.” They’re normal for someone relatively new to the job. RESPECT ✊🏼
@Name-ps9fx3 жыл бұрын
@@IkLms11 oh come on.
@kedarunzi91393 жыл бұрын
When you spend all of your upgrade points on gunner accuracy instead of loading
@rurushu80945 жыл бұрын
But you are using a auto reload tank STONKS
@idracius49583 жыл бұрын
Those of you who want to know all the rounds he was loading are called heat rounds high-explosive anti-tank they shoot out a jet of molten copper once they hit the target except for the last one which was an apfsds armor-piercing fin stabilized discarding sabo which is a kinetic round with a uranium core to help it Perce armor
@gwydionrusso32063 жыл бұрын
Dang, he was getting faster by the end for sure! All I see is effort and dedication
@leotide19903 жыл бұрын
He's green but that's why they train. Give him time, he'll spit those sabot rounds out like watermelon seeds💥
@peasantsarerevolting93434 жыл бұрын
Those are HEAT rounds. And I think he got the hang of it with the last one
@nash-p4 жыл бұрын
The standard to load the main gun is seven seconds, his first time took 17 seconds. The second time was 14 seconds, the third round was 9 seconds. He's getting faster. Fourth round 11 seconds, and his final round, the much lighter TPCPDS-T in seven seconds. That Spec 4 hasn't done a lot of gunnery training in his time.
@drkjk4 жыл бұрын
What do TPCPDS-T stands for??? I know about APFSDS or HEAT-FS but just for games i play
@felipediiorio9344 Жыл бұрын
@@felipediiorio9344 TPCPDS-T is training amo. Target Practice, Cone Stabilized, Discarding Sabot-Tracer
@wardasz Жыл бұрын
Loader : "alright. This is the 3.500$ dollar bullet right away!"
@spartanzthatplaygamesplaye86922 жыл бұрын
I love the sounds of the different metal parts clunking together
@topphatt13122 жыл бұрын
Hahaha who is this guy. The heat round got him. Needs to lift a weight
@kgw1007 жыл бұрын
Charles Lovallo this was platoon gunnery he was pretty tired from our section runs
@eatsleeptankrepeat3507 жыл бұрын
i guess. really all in the technique. that could hurt a gunnery score
@kgw1007 жыл бұрын
Charles Lovallo na we had already q1
@eatsleeptankrepeat3507 жыл бұрын
i dead lift HE rounds
@bepu48477 жыл бұрын
I'm a sound designer in shit-fuck illinois. Thanks to y'all man enough to do the dirty work!
@AFriendlyTheo7 жыл бұрын
At least he didn’t drop rounds like my loader did one time lmfao
@daltonhelm22553 жыл бұрын
I bet you all jumped. Lmao
@josephphillips80193 жыл бұрын
Ok it appears as though you've got actual experience, not just 200 hours in world of tanks, so i'll ask you. Shell goes in, it fires, and instead of a spent case ejecting, it's just the base and primer. What happens to the rest? I know there are caseless rounds for some experimental rifles but this is new to me. Any knowledge you can share?
@Damocles543 жыл бұрын
I was looking thr same? Even if it was plastic it wouldnt be all gone really wonder where is the rest of the case
@Boz12111112 жыл бұрын
@@Boz1211111 Since no one answered this a year ago, I'll answer it now. The rest of the case is combustible and burns up when the round is fired.
@zeedub8560 Жыл бұрын
@@zeedub8560 cool thanks
@Boz1211111 Жыл бұрын
Great job on his part for learning so quick no fails there, only learning. I was just afraid his arm would get caught when he was shoving the shell in and the latch closed
@brodyalbert9214 Жыл бұрын
that moment when you start to appreciate your war thunder crew a little bit more
@papyfun50972 жыл бұрын
Hes doing his job trying his best none of you would last in his postion
@OmniscientHerbivore4 жыл бұрын
Iv'e been in his position and was a lot faster than that. Hopefully he is new and will improve!
@kpiniak4 жыл бұрын
@@kpiniak you had more experience by the sounds of it. This kid seems just outta boot.
@devioustea3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know... TC said “Fire” before the loader said “Up” bro 😂
@GBZekroh4 жыл бұрын
This Comrade try his best to load faster than a regular rookie, he did a good job
@predator01actual2 жыл бұрын
Give him a break, he's new. Nobody is an expert right out of the gate.
@DustinBKerensky972 жыл бұрын
This is a fine example of the challenges and effort of loading the main gun of a modern MBT. While I may be a proponent of the use of autoloaders in MBTs, with enough training and motivation a loader can perform some really amazing feats. And as far as I've seen so far, most countries that have tanks like these have no shortage of either. :)
@sanityx81143 жыл бұрын
Everyone’s dissing the reloader but I bet them bullets weigh more than your mum and dad put together give the guy some props he fighting for your country and you wanna give him grief about reloading... Should of used your token to permo unlock (Slight of hand Pro)
@shotgunsneezes24s154 жыл бұрын
Shotgun sneezes24s it’s about 60-70 pounds because I hand out sabot rounds to tankers. It does get tiring though.
@joaquinplays42614 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jonv.62134 жыл бұрын
Weoght is one thing.how the weoght is handled and the way its moved counts
@cnnr4414 жыл бұрын
50 lbs ... loaded for 3 years hes fine .... he over heated and motion sick a lil ... thank u for serving brother loader
@KAZALO94 жыл бұрын
Everyone forgot to mention he has glasses, its probably all fogged up and he was barely seeing anything
@seadsea3 жыл бұрын
Is the bulk of the shell casing part of the propellant, and only the primer/rear casing part coming back out of the breach?
@consentofthegoverned5145 Жыл бұрын
Okay, technical question here: Where are the spent shell casings? I see the metal disk things, (Don't know what they're called... "primer plates", maybe?), falling into a catcher bin beneath the breech after each firing sequence, but where's the rest of the shell? Do they use a cellulose casing that burns with the powder or something?
@Nutzkie20017 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the shell casings are combustible.
@Nyx_21427 жыл бұрын
Nex Gamez yup, that's called caseless ammunition
@balthy81397 жыл бұрын
Steve, They are called Aft Caps.
@mtaylor447 жыл бұрын
On these rounds, the case (the light gray portion between the warhead and the black rubber sealing ring near the base in the picture above) is made of nitrocellulose (heavy duty cardboard impregnated with nitroglycerin) and burns up completely when the round is fired. The only thing left after the round is fired is the aft-cap and primer which are ejected out of the breach and fall to the turret floor to be gathered up and turned back in to the ammo supply point later for re-use in making new rounds.
@cameronbrown81137 жыл бұрын
Steve Cope these are sabot rounds, the shells splits open after coming out of the gun barrel
@TheChampIsHere99886 жыл бұрын
Seems like he just needs to figure out a fluid method & stick with that method. Not too bad. No drops. Dumb question: Is the chamber essentially "crushing" the aluminum shell case down immediately after firing ?
@doejon94242 жыл бұрын
No, the shell casing is actually made in highly flammable material so that it gets consumed when fired. This leaves only the metallic part at the end, which is why it is so small.
@sopina.2 жыл бұрын
@@sopina.I finally did some research. All that's left is the primer / fuse part & they accumulate them to be reused. Pretty damn interesting rounds !
@doejon94242 жыл бұрын
Pov : you have a camera of your inexperience crew in War Thunder
@yummybatteryacid70123 жыл бұрын
Imagine the tank rolling over a big hole and leaning on the right while shooting .
@Tranced24 Жыл бұрын
12s, it should take maximum 6 seconds for a loader in a modern tank combat.
@simonschlachtmann68066 жыл бұрын
Boris, in 6 seconds you cant even bring a glass of vodka to your mouth, and by the way ... you're dead.
@kalsarikannit20586 жыл бұрын
I never said i'd do it better *burp*
@simonschlachtmann68066 жыл бұрын
Loaders are retarded anyways just use a autoloader
@thund3rb0lt636 жыл бұрын
Why use auto loaders when someone can do it less than 7 seconds which is about the time it takes an out loader to load a round.
@YoungDevil-fg5py6 жыл бұрын
human loaders can do it faster then a auto loader which is why the U.S. army uses them
@deventhompson29506 жыл бұрын
14 second reload. Imagine that vs 32-round autoloader in Russian T14. Oof. But he will get better, I don't see a fail either. Let us hope they will not meet any other tanks than ones that goatlovers have.
he did his reload in 15 seconds. The last one in 9 seconds his learning fast
You should be able to load this in five or six seconds effortlessly, erah
@@ngtrfnersgre365 7 seconds is the standard
ngtrfn ersgre he’s obviously new you saw how much quicker he got as the vid processed
@@banger2998 he needs to get 7 seconds its the standard for an m1 loader
Moto R6 yeah and he probably do that now that was my point? So why did you comment back?
Isn't this the reason he's practicing? I mean, it's like posting a video of a fat man going to gym to mock him, he's there for _that_ reason
They have dummy rounds to practice ,You should be able to load quickly by the time they are using live rounds
@@charlieblue4128 yes - my point was another, the video title mocks the loader, but he's actually training to be better so he's expected to be "not that good"
@@EttoreB93 he failed because he loaded the wrong shell type at the end there
@@Glados1080 He failed in more than just that way. He was slow, clumsy, forgot to lift the breech handle, etc. Overall, he just sucked ass at loading.
@Ettore No, he is at gunnery. He should long be past the point of this ineptitude. Yeah, there is always room for improvement. It is why we trained, after all. However, he would not even be in the loader's position, with most of the TCs I knew. His performance reflects on the entire crew, when at gunnery. (I also blame the TC, since he should've made sure his soldier was up to snuff, unless this loader was new to the unit, and came from a duty station where he didn't serve in his MOS.)
Former M1 tanker here, I did it all (Loader, Driver, Gunner, Commander) at one point or another. He was pretty rough off the mark, but improved considerably as he went along. Training, and practice, in a stationary tank in the motor pool, is fine; but learning how to reload quickly and efficiently and consistently in a moving tank can only happen at Gunnery. Look at his (much improved!) technique on the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds: cupping the AFCAP (base) with his left hand, and using the right hand to pivot the round across his left elbow and into the breech. THAT's how you do it. We call it training for a reason. Fair job, soldier. Showed marked improvement as he went along, still room for more improvement.
To do this, you need to spend the engine life of the tank and shells? To understand how to load the gun correctly? Funny. Are they standing, but at full speed over rough terrain, after several days of marching? What can wheezer do?
@@id_Usher Doing basic drills in a stationary tank in the motor pool expends no fuel, no ammo; the tank is off, and the shell is a training dummy. Put the dummy round in the ammo rack. Leave the ammo door open. Open the gun breech. Take the round out of the ammo rack, and put it in the gun. Then take the round out, put it back in the ammo rack. Rinse, repeat. Builds strength, coordination, and speed.
congratulations on one of the simplest tasks in the military. loading a gun. a spc e-4 should not even had a bad first load nor should be constantly fixing his glasses during exercises. contacts or corrective surgery. his function is impaired.
@@AdmiralZinji ok, go lift a 100 pound weight from rest to your head height and put it down once per second. Just because a task is simple doesn't mean its easy.
Any idea how much those rounds weigh. By the looks, I'd guess around 70, but shit...maybe 100lb?
He didn't fail, he was just learning. Yeah, the first reload was terrible, but the last one was pretty good.
TC must use dummy rounds and get him load over an over until he gets the best way to load! loaders must be under 5 sec to load! it seems he is not been trained the correct way.. Im glad Im retired... my loaders were 4 sec loaders.
@@eebarreto there's bo patch on left shoulder. Still in training. Boot making boot mistake. He'll get better
@@eebarreto Sure, he took way too long on the first loading, but he definetly showed progress and improvement with each loaded shell. It must be his first day on the job, but with that progression, it won't take long for him to be a decent/good/excellent loader
@@julienrooknizan5711 he's definitely not new, you can see his rank
@@FBIAGENT725 rank ≠ training.
When you don’t upgrade your crew in war thunder
I always forget that lol
*IT IS RECOMMENDED YOU SPEND CREW POINTS*
Tis is very true......got my tank destroyer max on reload.......I am enjoying my stuh really well.
Apple.
And guess whats in the game now...
He didn’t do a bad job though, I assume he’s new to loading and with time to come he will get better, faster and more efficient at loading
Those shells are also quite heavy tho
i agree. greets from germany
I don't know what kind of round that is, but I had a chance to grab a 155mm one day back in the army, and that thing was heavy af.
trash load nearly dropped it.
His technique is trash loading is all about technique
No patches a brand new pair of coveralls totally buttoned up and squared away with an overused helmet with no commander and an instructor behind him this dude is in AIT learning how to shoot lol he did fine
I got the ocp overalls now so mine are still new lmao and all the cvcs we use look like that unless every unit jas new ones
@@NTBgaming fair but the video was uploaded 4 years ago and who know how old the video actually is
That round he is carrying is 60 pounds, it is very difficult to carry. The average American adult male can hold around 70 pounds.
He's a specialist, you can tell by the velcro patch on his right shoulder.
@@walkerfox1846 then i would say he could very well have the unique distinction of being dumb bored and or patriotic enough to enlist in the army already having bachelor's degree. Lol
As a loader I can tell he’s brand new to that position. It ain’t easy getting those rounds in quick. He just needs more time and practice. He’ll be fine.
I kinda feel bad for him. He is kind of small. Gives him plenty of movement space but those rounds are throwing him around just as much as he is throwing them around. He will get better but it would be easier for him if he put on some weight. Or maybe there is some sort of seatbelt to assist the loader have a fixed position?
@@acephantom903 I think a seatbelt would be a death Wish.
@@pipopoikapelaa5468 probably. Just thinking of it as a way to make it easier for smaller guys to perform the role.
I didnt see any fail, i saw effort in this man loading a big gun
He didnt meet the required pace of a man who reloads, trust me, if you are being pelted by anti armor in that tank you would HAVE to pick up the pace at least a bit more, every second counts.
Mr. Me I thought his mistake was he loaded AT instead of HE there at the very end
@@cluelessnate3326 that's what I thought at first, welp maybe that is it, but even if he was kinda slow.
anyway that's a training
@@cluelessnate3326 the fuck are you talking about? those are HEAT trainers and the gunner said sabot one time so he loaded the KE sabot trainer.... edit: at least i think he said sabot cant be too sure but still, those are HEAT and one sabot
Try slinging a round when you are in a confined space , off center and bouncing around. Ain't easy.
Its easy... were not boomers. That guy is not thinking about the battle cuz its training. But if he was in an actual battle... he'd be yeeting the shit outta those rounds
LunatiqTV you out here, 10 years old, thinking you can do this
@@bimple6425 im 28 but a 16 year old could do this np. grabbing a heavy cylinder and putting it into a tube is NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
@@EzMoneyy if you're 28 why don't you do your job and leave a newbies job to a newbie. Have you done this before?
@@bimple6425 I've done ACTUAL hard jobs. like construction... bootcamp, army life, yea its all hard, but putting a heavy pipe in a tube and lifting a lever. doesnt require god level focus and work ethic. + a tank is only as effective as its loader.
Not a Loader fail moment. This is a Loader learning moment. He improved very quickly.
It looks like he's in basic training give him a break. Its not that easy
He's an E-4, NOT a trainee.
@@TheJimtanker how do you know he's not in training? Just curious is all
@@XM8A1 As I said, he's an E-4. That means that he's been in the Army at least 1 1/2 years most likely. I was a tanker in the Army for 25 years and an Abrams Master Gunner.
@@TheJimtanker ah ok. I had buddies in basic that came in as an E4, I myself came in as an E2.
@@XM8A1 Well, either way he wasn't very well trained.
When your loader is at 50%
Galax-Zee lol
Galax-Zee I
Galax-Zee the loader is unconscious
Galax-Zee Lol get adrenaline rush on him
Galax-Zee 50% crew experience
*He´s all like: Be a tank loader they said, it´ll be funny they said"*
See the world they said
I can't imagine trying to load a projectile the size of a small child into a cramped gun, in a cramped turret, bouncing around and being judged is easy. Props to the loader for giving it his all ✊
You forgot to mentioned how heavy it is
Yeah a HEAT round is around 50-55lbs while a sabot is only 45lbs
Wait you're loading children sized projectiles?! *Casually hides projectile sized children* My ammo is uhh..helpful to limiting the size of our population in more ways than one.
@@johnnyanderson2-roblox185 Yea. Sounds like it has a "large impact radius"
Yes, it is very easy to judge from a comfy seat watching a video, harder to put oneself at risk loading a large breechloader cannon in close quarters, practicing to someday possibly be in even greater harm's way under fire. This loader will keep on doing what needs to be done. "UP!"
In mother russia, ammo reloads you
Kalamar Oralarda мать Россия!
In Mother Russia everyone uses automatic loaders for like 40 years already, dude.
In soviet russia, you are the meme
Kalamar Oralarda who do you think you are
Kalamar Oralarda hahahahahahahah
World Of Tanks commanders be like: "The loader is injured, he's moving slowly"
WE DIDNT EVEN SCRATCH THEM
That was close!
@@gordonallred390 me: well we must of scratched there paint. gosh i love world of tonks
Stock loader + Injured = stock time -50% F k
2:04 Look at how fast he got that last one in there!
Yep but forgot to pull the lever at the end i believe
@@vitamlipidiae7376 I would agree. But the commander said cease fire. Means to stop everything. Maybe to issue a new command or the target probably went down due to to time so there's no point arming if you can't shoot.
He definitely picked up pretty quick. He's like a tank himself; just needs a little time to warm up. :)
I saw no fail, i saw a soldier serving his country. Also that's the point of training, to get better and faster.
XD
Exactly.
The fail is that he loaded a he ammo not a aphe
We have qualifications.. in order to qualified as a TANK Crew! if you don't meet those qualifications you can be removed until further retraining is achieved! a slow loader in the battlefield is not good! crew is at risk!
@@idracius4958 APHE is not really being used anymore. We mostly use HE on fire support vehicles, not MBTs. And those are APFSDS and HEAT rounds.
Just like a dude said before, all I see is effort here, and also, these rounds are damn heavy. I carried one of them once, it's like holding a baby. That shit ain't light.
Yeah, and he's probably just training. Will get better with time.
The failure here is his speed, he also forgets to arm the round immediatly... Looks like he's new, he should get faster with time. And the weight of the round isn't a valid excuse, it's part of his job... plenty of people willing to be part of an armoured crew.
@@Fiirow1 It isn't an excuse but it's a fact. He'll surely get quicker, you right on that.
What kind of baby did you have?holy sh
Try loading a 155mm shell them shits weigh anything between 90-137lbs
The loader has the hardest job in the crew. We must give him credits.
I thought it was the aimer
@@evildragon1774 U mean gunner? No, he shouldn't be considered having the hardest job.
Not really,maybe physically but In general it’s the commander,he has to operate everyone and give them orders what to do and decide what’s next,he has to make sure his tank is in tip top shape and his crew are all good.
@@phub9489 yup i agree with this one
@@evildragon1774 Yeah, the Commander is the eyes and the brain of the tank
All I could think of was how miserably overheated and winded you could get dressed like you’re going into the Arctic with a damn mask on twisting, grabbing, lifting, straining, shoving the round down the tube all the while trying to balance in a moving vehicle. Looks like a great way to get heat stroke as well as back and shoulder injuries. I salute all loaders. Y’all are badasses.
I could basically hear his supraspinatus tendon just watching him
He didn't do toooo bad. Just needs a little kick in the butt and some practice and he would do fine. Great video by the way :-)
Matsimus Gaming thanks for the comment...you got some awesome videos yourself
:-) Thank you. I am jealous of you and you''re loader :-(
EatSleepTankRepeat ! are you the loader or the commander becuase i thought the commander that is filming you cause your failing im confused well is not even that bad to fail just need more practice
Matsimus Gaming he might also need to get stronger
I struggled with the HEAT rounds when I was a loader, he did good!!! Was he new?
Vents can improve his performance by 10%
Wot
Love all the tankers in here offering support for a guy who they see is learning. For a civilian like me, it would have taken an extra glance to see that he was training and not sucking.
Practice that all he needs. He's learning the technique clearly and refining it on his own. A few more sessions and he should be up to pace.
clearly you need to turn on accelerate crew training or spend a few gold to get a better loader. you should also get a medium gun rammer and maybe vents so he has a +5 boost. also make sure to choose adrenaline loading as a perk.
Finn Murtons What game you play?
All that stuff is in World of Tanks.
adrenaline rush has saved me so many times tho
War thunder is more realistic, just sayin'
more? underegzaderation
needs practice, but it comes with time
yea, he needs a little practice.
Tj Mertz such is life. Im sure hes a pro now and chuckles at his rookie self
Manz Spartan IV Ace9 I'm sure he does my friend. Hopefully by now he's a gunner training the next loader on the beast!
He's already a specialist. He should know how to load by now.
The last round looked a bit quicker than the previous ones, a lot smoother movement in loading
He's in a moving vehicle bouncing around while loading a gun with a shell the size of a leg. Its not easy! But He's in training and did a good job!
When I was younger at a little military museum style place , they had rounds that were dead, but filled to an accurate weight. They were heavy as all hell. Now imagine that in a confined space , full gear , bouncing around in a loud , intense environment. Good job , proud to see people serving their homeland.
He needs provisions +5% reloading speed +15% armor penetrating 😂😂
Miko Mišo this ain’t a video game lol
Whoosh
Is this war thunder related??
World of tank club
Xavier Mondragon Jr world of tanks
Not bad at all. The problem was maybe the lack of practice (wich is normal at certain point, no one was born knowing everything). The way he grab the shell, or the lack of enough phisical strenght to change it from one hand to the other didn´t look the best. There isn´t a lot of space for the loader, wich makes all movements more difficult, and sure the 120mm shell weighs a lot... Seeing vids everything looks easy, and it´s easy to talk about it as well. I´m sure if I were there, I´ll drop the shell on the floor, load a SABOT when the TC wanted a HEAT, forget to put main gun on ready to fire switch, and who knows what more fails LOL...
Asturian Cetorix Yeah, it's a training exercise, but in a real war scenario this mistakes costs the life of your crew members, because of it this mistakes are understandable but not forgivable
Well, that's exactly what trainings are for, so you can, you know, train for the real deal. :P
Couldnt agree more he still kinda sucked tho
The HEAT weighs around 57 pounds ;)
He is probably in OSUT. He doesnt even have a unit patch yet.
Tanking long ago 1976-80) and in a place far, far away (Germany) I'll tell you that for a young soldier, loading the main gun during a gunnery run is the most challenging thing there is to do. This soldier was a bit slow but that will improve with practice. God bless our troops.
Me too,only on a Cheiftain!!
I think the issue is forgetting to pull that lever that most likely locks the loading breach. Either way, he’s doing a hell of a better job than I could probably do with my noodle arms.
Looks really dangerous. When the gun would give him a kick he may be dead.
sofortwo don't get in the way 😂
It's been like that since 1990,you just dont get in the way Some tanks have bars behind the breech to signal how far the breech would go,but this one doesnt. But its really rare to have someone get knocked out by a breech in a tanm
sofortwo it's a tank i would prefer to stay inside and get hit by the recoil than get hit by something else outside
It's a compromise, too many safety barriers would make it more difficult to load fast, and inside a tank there's very little room anyway so the more barriers the less easy people can move around, which is especially bad if the tank was hit and started burning, those same barriers intended for safety might actually end up killing you.
If he is dead he probably didnt listen
*"we didn't even scratch them"*
“that one bounced!”
That one didn’t go through!
*We dinged them!*
Eww WoT
gottemmm
You can tell he’s new by the way he pulled and handled that HEAT round. Hes gonna get that time down to 4 or 5 later down the line haha!
everybody gangsta until the loader gets shot by a tank shell
This is guy is serving his country. Are you?
No but wtf are you doing?😂
Yes I did. I was a loader and a gunner. He needs practice. Tough position but he just needs practice.
@@CR-pf9qt not complaining like an armchair expert
@@vishalgiraddi5357 im not even fucking talking to you dipshit wtf is wrong with you?
yes, yes I am. Royal Signals, British Army. Currently in Phase 2 trade training
where's the fail?? fockin' clickbait eh??!! I Respect the Loader, he tryin' the best he can with those big SABOT Round and rumbling tight space ain't easy
Yeah his not his fault those rounds are heavy..except for the last one
wait wut, i though those re HEAT
@@ZenFattyCat.4869 they are heat
@@ZenFattyCat.4869 HEAT-T T for training
Loaded the wrong ammo at the end.
He’s clearly new to the loader role, but he’ll be up to speed real soon with guidance and encouragement.
A good loader is 3-5 seconds on the reloads, depending on the tank and how deep he has to reach for the shells. So i dont see a fail here. The shells are pretty heavy and you cant really be a big dude in that position.
Dude that last reload in video was an expert move
Chris Dial-burton He just got the new experience level.
yea but he forgot to put the lever up to fire
Its called muscle memory He just need some time
yeah that last ones the fastest
M.P. Nation the lever goes up once the door for the ammo(120mm sabot)it's closed
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marjua24 that whinning is horrible
Its the fucking giant Turbine engine what makes that sound!!!
marjua24 I
lol
He looks pretty green, and even then he picked up fast towards the end. Mans probably a fine loader by now
guy reloads faster than my whole tank squad all leveled up fully
that sound is so fucking annoying
The Dank Potato that's the sound of the engine. It's a gas turbine engine similar to what most modern helicopters use. It's not bad with the CVC helmets on. ;)
Atleast you dont have to suffer those radial engines on the M4 Sherman
That Guy it's the hydrolic pump the engine is quiet... it's loud because is moving 9 gallons of fluid every 3 seconds plus the tank acts like a amplifier
That Guy Older tanks Brbrrbbrbrrbbrbrrbbrbr New tanks *video
It's actually sound of gun stabilisers
I feel like many people in the comments never tried to lift a damn tank round that stuff is *DUMMY THICC*
Its 41.1 pounds, that's some weak shit
Yep. 105mm M 60A1
@@EnlightenedBro105 whats that in non-freedom measurements? (aka: kilograms)
Pedro Miguel just convert it using google yourself lol.
@@pedromiguel748 around 16 kilograms
I was part of a TOW missile loading team, four missiles loaded either side of a Lynx aircraft (eight in total). The first day of training we were a mess. Last part of the drill was engaging the 'arming lever', making the missiles live, something you didn't do until all the team had moved away from the forward and rear blast area of the missiles (in case of misfire) and all of us were forever forgetting to either engage the arming lever or engaging with personnel stood in blast zones. Two days of training it all came together for majority of class except for a few who just couldn't master lightening fast loading/unloading/loading drills or the correct use of the arming lever. First time we carried out live drills all the training and prep worked in our favour, all missiles loaded, fired and unloaded correctly.
Loader always forgot to Pull up the lever in order for the gun to fire..
That’s why he is practicing
Imagine standing behind that gun when it fires Ouch.
In front or in the back? 😉
@@einvolkeinreicheineuro7462 I meant the front because I'm implying the person standing there not the gun itself
Well both are the same, except the rear might not kill you
@Kaiser Wilhelm II wanna see that send link pls
electronic builder kzhead.info/sun/kpWDmtdtrX99a6s/bejne.html that's the one Not sure if that guy died though
now it makes sence why my war thunder tank is loading slow
Dude almost cut his reload time in half at the end, impressive
Hey, that's why they call it training! He's doing good, trying hard and getting better. Good job!
“Our Loader bought the farm! We can’t fire as fast!”
pyronite59 LMAO
Facts
My crew must be Irish as they always talk about Ricky O'shea. Being a tanker must pay well with all the farms they buy geeze
Hold my Strv103
If you haven't done the job,STFU!
Seems like he's new to loading, I'd say he did a pretty good job though!
His last reload was 6 seconds, so i agree with you :)
Exactly!
I feel bad cause he looks scared... hopefully he gets used to it but the reload form start to finish was much better
Just needs to remember the lewer :D
It's funny how everyone's a tank loader all of a sudden
To be fair, just about every comment I've read so far says the same thing. He is new and learning. So far I haven't seen anyone say they could do it better if they'd never been in that loader position in a moving tank.
I expected the fail to be him getting in the way of the back blast and get his a** knocked to the back of the tank
Its happened before.
More like crushed against it really that shit goes back far enough to do that of ur in the way
When you spend all the money you could spend on an autoloader for grandma's couch camo pattern
Every soldier has to ask a serious question when being sent into combat: Are you protecting citizens or actually helping politicians currupt other countries.
Never done it. I'd probably just be trying to stay alive and do my job. It's up to the citizens to police their governments so those situations don't happen.
@@aiai4u109 And a solider is also a citizen, yes?
@@dakota9821 soldiers are agents of their governments mostly. Yes, a citizen while out of uniform. That's a tricky subject
I wouldn’t want to hang around one of those turbines for very long
I would’t want have my knees deep in the mud as infantry eather
Now i already see he is nervous and tired xd ti me that's a good job
my mans doing his best :(
IkLms11 have you ever lifted a tanks gun shell? If you have that’s quite impressive
IkLms11 oh really I thought it would be heavier lmao
IkLms11 i know like nothing but to be fair its not evenly distributed weight its a cylinder and maybe bottom heavy. But thats just my opinion and i get what ur saying.
@@IkLms11 He looks about 19-23. He may be grown, but hes still pretty young. I'm pretty sure he'll get used to picking up those shells the more he grows up
It seems the worst part about this job would be having the big huge recoiling mechanism right there in your workspace, and never knowing when you'll only have a seconds notice that it's slamming back.
IMagine getting hit by that
Once you shout "UP", you stay back till the blast. As easy as that. Loader job is difficult, but not complex.
That guy learned real quick, though. In just a few reloads he cut down on his time by a lot. He's likely new to doing this and when you consider he's lugging a massive fucking shell like that in a rocking vehicle confined in a tight space, yeah that won't be easy for a newbie. That takes time and practice to get used to before you can have it down like clockwork.
where does he fail? bit slow maybe and bit scared of the "blowback" and sometimes forgets the lever but fail is a bit harsh :D btw whats that lever for? i assume its somekind of safety? we had a control panel in leo2 that does job when pressed fire and also u had to press either heat or apds for the calculator (also stops the gun moving for loades safety) but we had a huge tray to catch the shells. witch leeds me to my final point I love the layout and extra room of the fighting compartment
Autorage It's the breech lock. You fire, breech block slams open and ejects firing pin assembly and you load a round push the block up and lock it.
Autorage clearly you have never been on a tank lol
yeah i was just wondering since its the same rheinmetall l44 smoothbore gun used in leopard 2a4:s or l55 in a6's and we didn't have the manual breech lock. It's locked automaticly after u push the shell in.. the down side is if u need to remove the shell it's a bit slower.. since the tool to open the breech lock in under the gun and quite clumsy to use.
Sadly I have :D I'm trained commander for leopard 2. Just a different tank but the gun supposed to be the same. And excuse me for my bad language... Never thought the names in english.. like that huge tray.. in finland we call it vetäytymissuoja.. witch translates to retriet cover or something like that.. since the breech moves something like 350mm after fired.. It also collects the shell cases.
EatSleepTankRepeat ! That's why he's asking you to expatiate on your [rather vague] title. I was genuinely curious as well.
0:30 I was like ow god dont drop the round
TheEqualsGamer its not a explosive found its a test round
I mean not a explosive round its a test round
Thomas LOL Hansen But still. Imagine that he would drop 50kg on his foot. Or on his knee.
It was an explosive round
what happens if he drops it?
You can see the progress he made by counting the seconds he took on the first reload compared to the last one
That last one tho, he's learning. He'll go on and make his crew proud and strong.
I don't see anything wrong other then he's a bit slow loading and the rounds are to heavy for him
Darragh Walsh a slow loader in a tank gets you all killed. Just needs practice and some weight lifting. It comes with time.
Looks like someone needs some whey protein
John Smith because it is the correct answer that is asked by multiple people.
They should give him lighter rounds. Actually he should just PT more.
Donnie Montoya i’m sure your fat ass could do better
He just needs some gym time to develop his upper body strength and he'll be fine.
Everyone gangsta until that loader dude was holding a shell with his right hand already a few seconds after he loaded the previous one
he looks sick, also the rounds look too heavy for him :/
I assume the loader is still new. Plus the shell is 53lbs. I'm sure he'll get used to the weight and get faster in the future.
@@IkLms11 Those aren’t “mistakes.” They’re normal for someone relatively new to the job. RESPECT ✊🏼
@@IkLms11 oh come on.
When you spend all of your upgrade points on gunner accuracy instead of loading
But you are using a auto reload tank STONKS
Those of you who want to know all the rounds he was loading are called heat rounds high-explosive anti-tank they shoot out a jet of molten copper once they hit the target except for the last one which was an apfsds armor-piercing fin stabilized discarding sabo which is a kinetic round with a uranium core to help it Perce armor
Dang, he was getting faster by the end for sure! All I see is effort and dedication
He's green but that's why they train. Give him time, he'll spit those sabot rounds out like watermelon seeds💥
Those are HEAT rounds. And I think he got the hang of it with the last one
The standard to load the main gun is seven seconds, his first time took 17 seconds. The second time was 14 seconds, the third round was 9 seconds. He's getting faster. Fourth round 11 seconds, and his final round, the much lighter TPCPDS-T in seven seconds. That Spec 4 hasn't done a lot of gunnery training in his time.
What do TPCPDS-T stands for??? I know about APFSDS or HEAT-FS but just for games i play
@@felipediiorio9344 TPCPDS-T is training amo. Target Practice, Cone Stabilized, Discarding Sabot-Tracer
Loader : "alright. This is the 3.500$ dollar bullet right away!"
I love the sounds of the different metal parts clunking together
Hahaha who is this guy. The heat round got him. Needs to lift a weight
Charles Lovallo this was platoon gunnery he was pretty tired from our section runs
i guess. really all in the technique. that could hurt a gunnery score
Charles Lovallo na we had already q1
i dead lift HE rounds
I'm a sound designer in shit-fuck illinois. Thanks to y'all man enough to do the dirty work!
At least he didn’t drop rounds like my loader did one time lmfao
I bet you all jumped. Lmao
Ok it appears as though you've got actual experience, not just 200 hours in world of tanks, so i'll ask you. Shell goes in, it fires, and instead of a spent case ejecting, it's just the base and primer. What happens to the rest? I know there are caseless rounds for some experimental rifles but this is new to me. Any knowledge you can share?
I was looking thr same? Even if it was plastic it wouldnt be all gone really wonder where is the rest of the case
@@Boz1211111 Since no one answered this a year ago, I'll answer it now. The rest of the case is combustible and burns up when the round is fired.
@@zeedub8560 cool thanks
Great job on his part for learning so quick no fails there, only learning. I was just afraid his arm would get caught when he was shoving the shell in and the latch closed
that moment when you start to appreciate your war thunder crew a little bit more
Hes doing his job trying his best none of you would last in his postion
Iv'e been in his position and was a lot faster than that. Hopefully he is new and will improve!
@@kpiniak you had more experience by the sounds of it. This kid seems just outta boot.
I don’t know... TC said “Fire” before the loader said “Up” bro 😂
This Comrade try his best to load faster than a regular rookie, he did a good job
Give him a break, he's new. Nobody is an expert right out of the gate.
This is a fine example of the challenges and effort of loading the main gun of a modern MBT. While I may be a proponent of the use of autoloaders in MBTs, with enough training and motivation a loader can perform some really amazing feats. And as far as I've seen so far, most countries that have tanks like these have no shortage of either. :)
Everyone’s dissing the reloader but I bet them bullets weigh more than your mum and dad put together give the guy some props he fighting for your country and you wanna give him grief about reloading... Should of used your token to permo unlock (Slight of hand Pro)
Shotgun sneezes24s it’s about 60-70 pounds because I hand out sabot rounds to tankers. It does get tiring though.
Agreed
Weoght is one thing.how the weoght is handled and the way its moved counts
50 lbs ... loaded for 3 years hes fine .... he over heated and motion sick a lil ... thank u for serving brother loader
Everyone forgot to mention he has glasses, its probably all fogged up and he was barely seeing anything
Is the bulk of the shell casing part of the propellant, and only the primer/rear casing part coming back out of the breach?
Okay, technical question here: Where are the spent shell casings? I see the metal disk things, (Don't know what they're called... "primer plates", maybe?), falling into a catcher bin beneath the breech after each firing sequence, but where's the rest of the shell? Do they use a cellulose casing that burns with the powder or something?
If I remember correctly, the shell casings are combustible.
Nex Gamez yup, that's called caseless ammunition
Steve, They are called Aft Caps.
On these rounds, the case (the light gray portion between the warhead and the black rubber sealing ring near the base in the picture above) is made of nitrocellulose (heavy duty cardboard impregnated with nitroglycerin) and burns up completely when the round is fired. The only thing left after the round is fired is the aft-cap and primer which are ejected out of the breach and fall to the turret floor to be gathered up and turned back in to the ammo supply point later for re-use in making new rounds.
Steve Cope these are sabot rounds, the shells splits open after coming out of the gun barrel
Seems like he just needs to figure out a fluid method & stick with that method. Not too bad. No drops. Dumb question: Is the chamber essentially "crushing" the aluminum shell case down immediately after firing ?
No, the shell casing is actually made in highly flammable material so that it gets consumed when fired. This leaves only the metallic part at the end, which is why it is so small.
@@sopina.I finally did some research. All that's left is the primer / fuse part & they accumulate them to be reused. Pretty damn interesting rounds !
Pov : you have a camera of your inexperience crew in War Thunder
Imagine the tank rolling over a big hole and leaning on the right while shooting .
12s, it should take maximum 6 seconds for a loader in a modern tank combat.
Boris, in 6 seconds you cant even bring a glass of vodka to your mouth, and by the way ... you're dead.
I never said i'd do it better *burp*
Loaders are retarded anyways just use a autoloader
Why use auto loaders when someone can do it less than 7 seconds which is about the time it takes an out loader to load a round.
human loaders can do it faster then a auto loader which is why the U.S. army uses them
14 second reload. Imagine that vs 32-round autoloader in Russian T14. Oof. But he will get better, I don't see a fail either. Let us hope they will not meet any other tanks than ones that goatlovers have.