How a US-Saudi Defence Pact Could End the War in Gaza
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There's lots of speculation about a potential defence pact between the US and Saudi Arabia that could lead to a normalisation between Israel and the Saudis. So in this video, we'll explain this prospective deal and what it might mean for the Middle East.
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Remember that Armenia and Azerbaijan were once in the same defence pact Didn't make them friends
Just before WW2 it seemed like all the big countries in Europe were trying to negotiate defense pacts with all the other big countries. The Soviet Union and Germany even made a pact. That didn't work out well.
Azrabijan and armenia have 50 billion dollar gdp comparing them to saudi with 1.1 trillion is stupid
its a pathetic try to Buying the Saudis in order to Let the G**cide in Gaza. this stupid Idea of a NATO-Arab, only came from a mind full of drugs. what is needed o Peace is a Paelestine State, period.
It stabilized the twos conflict until the guaranteur stopped scrubs on it
Greek and Turkey 😂
Isn’t it kinda too late to be talking about convincing Israel to “wind down” its attacks on Gaza ?
It's to diminish what is happening. Should be talking about their punishment for war crimes. It's all a distraction.
@@xChrisDarko You mean hamas war crimes right? Those who started this war
@@xChrisDarkopunishment for trying to destroy the entity that attacked it?
@@heinkle1 airstrikes and blockade for 20 years and now they cry victim 🤡
You do know that Israel was attacking Palestinian cities of Jenin and Nablus before October 7th and that Israel was funding Hamas for years, right? Go read the Israeli newspaper the Jerusalem Post and Haaretz. Netanyahu's to blame @@heinkle1
06:13 That's no Strategic Alliance, that's a coalition for a huge middle eastern war.
is NATO a coalition for a huge European war then?🤔
@@ucouldnevah NATO did say they will have to fight Russia soon
There is no chance that all those countries would be able to take on Iran. They don't have militaries nor people willing to fight for them. The saudi military is made up of rag tag soldiers from neighboring countries. Iran would steam roll all of them if they wanted to. Equipment means nothing when you don't believe in what you are fighting for.
What does that even mean?
@@cyclomb Yup it seems to inevitable. Its only a question of when it will happen
I'm literally about to eat breakfast and this was uploaded at the perfect time.
Tea is better than coffee
Haha, same
relatable 😂
eating my dinner.
no one cares
I wouldn't trust MBS with nuclear assistance anymore than Iran.
Pakistan has nukes and north Korea has nukes . No one will ever push the button since it's a weapon for defence . But yes , less nukes are always better
Civil nuclear industry, not weapons
@@zorintoto1167 Pakistan was only able to get nukes with American help as a deterant for Indian and Chinese nukes and they are a major NATO ally, N.k's nuclear program is alot smaller and unsurprisingly nothing to be scared of
MBS is just a Monarch who wants to keep his regime, the other is a theocratic regime seeking to shape the Middle East in the way they interpret Islam. I think it should be clear which one is more dangerous.
Did you pay attention to the video? It's civilian nuclear power. The US is just gonna build nuclear reactors in SA.
"If you have a problem you need to solve, make it bigger." - summarizing Dwight Eisenhower
What
@bmckelvy5717 Essentially a reductionist quote about "If you are struggling finding a solution, imagine the problem upscaled" and with a larger viewpoint, a solution should become apparent.
its a pathetic try to Buying the Saudis in order to Let the G**cide in Gaza. this stupid Idea of a NATO-Arab, only came from a mind full of drugs. what is needed o Peace is a Paelestine State, period.
you should never take John Foster Dulles' colde war era claims at face value
Indeed. Quoting him was also a dumb point as the U.S. not joining CENTO didn’t cause it to fall apart. It continued for 20 years after the U.S. declined the invitation. CENTO fell apart because the countries kept going to war and the other members never wanted to actually support each other (Turkey in Cyprus, Pakistan in India). The nail in the coffin was the Iran revolution. Its demise had nothing to do with the U.S. or Israel. But you got to sprinkle in some Israel conspiracy theories to get dem clicks.
its a pathetic try to Buying the Saudis in order to Let the G**cide in Gaza. this stupid Idea of a NATO-Arab, only came from a mind full of drugs. what is needed o Peace is a Paelestine State, period.
Brilliant analyzes
Great overview! Subscribed.
This would be a big mistake
its a pathetic try to Buying the Saudis in order to Let the G**cide in Gaza. this stupid Idea of a NATO-Arab, only came from a mind full of drugs. what is needed o Peace is a Paelestine State, period.
I think it's super weird that you didn't speak at all about the Saudi-Iranian rapprochement which had been progressing well and while hasn't progressed much since Gaza war started, hasn't gone backwards either.
It’s fake and not a real rapprochement- just China pretending they know how to navigate international affairs
Why would they let themselves be forced to talk positively about China?
@@ElZilchoYoPositive? Chine only did it for money, not humanitarianism
Literally all they did was restart the most basics of communication and diplomacy
@@SelfProclaimedEmperorby helping the OPEC cartel?
The harder the US tries to disengage from the Middle East, the more entangled it seems to become.
If only we weren't horrendously addicted to oil, using like 1/3rd of the world's gasoline despite having just 1/20th of the world's population. Our car dependance is making us weak.
Why is it bad thing the USA is forming alliances with other countries?
@@catdogmousecheese didn't say it's a bad thing. But the US has been trying to turn its attention to the Pacific, hoping Turkey would shoulder some of the responsibility but something always happens to draw it back in.
@@Descriptor413 the irony is the US isn't dependent on Middle East oil but it still has to try to keep prices stable.
@Descriptor413 It's not about cars, it's about economy. Even if you divide the country into individual states, they would be on the top 5 economies in the world. The fact is the Americans create everything the world uses, and that makes them oil dependant
America: we stand for democracy and freedom! Also america: saudi arabia is our second greatest middle eastern ally
I find being an Israel ally more damning
@@OmegaFares Israel is doing shitty stuff right now and has done in the past, but at least they give women rights, have free press and elections. Israel even gives citizenship to palestinians and lets them form political parties and movements. The palestinian people outside of the de jure Israeli borders are treated badly, but Israel isn't nearly as much of an inhumane state as Saudi Arabia and not nearly as contradictory to american values.
@@patrickwuthrich8240Citizenship to Palestinians if they abandon being “Palestinian”, rights for women unless they are Palestinian, freedom of the press until the media supports Palestinians, freedom of assembly until they challenge Netanyahu and push for peace with Palestiniansb
@@just_dmitri3192 I'm not saying they're an angel, just that they're 100x better than Saudi Arabia. The country in which women gained the right to drive in 2019. If you see Israel as worse than Saudi Arabia then you're not just lacking consistency in your values but brain cells too.
@@patrickwuthrich8240 Israel is closer to European or american values ( much to your liking as opposed to SA) because they are not a native entity , they are a project though up in europe by people from europe hence why it's more to your liking. I find it more damning to support Israel (not that SA are good guys) as an ally because Israel as a foreign entity that forced itself upon the region is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths , displacements and ethnic cleansing . If you consider murder is more ok because the people doing it are more like you culturally then you should probably check your moral compass and perhaps your cognitive ability.
The core of the Abraham Accords was showing that the Palestinians were not the linch pin for Middle Eastern peace but, in fact, the main obstacle. To require acceptance of a two-state solution removes that and removes the whole impetus for normalization of relations with Israel.
💀 😂
This accord realistically just permanently undermines a two state solution. It's really just asking for the Saudi's to not interfere with Israeli politics in exchange for economic relations. Without some degree of external pressure a two state is effectively dead and it just lays the groundwork to continue the Zoinist project.
Absolutely wrong tha Abraham accords is coordinating between isreal and Arab dictatorships and doesn't take the Arab people as a whole into account so if any Arab leader fell due to any reason the Accords won't be valuable
The alliance between Pakistan, iran Iraq, Turkey and the uk was better known by its acronym CENTO or central treaty organization
It's a extermely optimistic to believe this might happen.
5:53 That is completely false. Israel had bad to hostile relations with US in the 50's... History Matters made a short video about the collapse of METO. I recommend it to everyone.
Isreal never had a hostile relationship with US. The Jews in America are so influential that they spearheaded US foreign policy in defence of Isreal before it came into existence
Neat
So no matter who wins... it's pretty much 100% guaranteed to be someone incredibly evil.
Love your videos
It takes only one coup detat to bring down such alliances as history previously has shown to us
Mabus
RAHHHHH Fuck Yeah Another Coup in the Middle East
And the perpetrators behind the coup will be the CIA.
Turk thinks every country is unstable as his, mind your own unstable and unstrustable armu
If the US has different military defense pacts with both Israel and Saudi Arabia and those two don't normalize relations, they very well could end up in a military conflict with the US obliged to support both parties.
i dunno sounds like a long shot. Unlikely to work.
Just like Iraq and Afghanistan, more military intervention usually does the trick and doesnt waste billions of tax payer dollars while contractors make bank off the bloodshed. Is nebula the sponsor or raytheon?
How many guarantees can we (the US) give out?
This deal strikes me as a REMARKABLY bad idea. It's exchanging some short term leverage for long term problems and commitments. In other words, it's Peak Biden.
It's really emblematic of US foreign policy since the pacific pivot under Obama. The abraham accords are an initiative from Jared Kushner under Trump, who basically went in with the mentality, "the experts have been failing for so long, I can do it myself". Biden has basically been blindly continuing Trump's policy uncritically and has made it worse on certain fronts. The whole point of the accords as far as I see it comes down to "who cares about these poor brown people, lets make more money with the rich brown people"
Didn’t he say it was ORIGINALLY proposed by TRUMP
Ridiculous idea.
Only if the Saudis increase oil output
Then they will cry about climate change
Are you aware of who produces the most oil in the world? The United States of America average is around 13 million barrels a day. Check eia.gov America doesn't need Saudi Arabia to produce oil. We don't need anything from them they have no technology they do not produce any of the high-tech components we need for a I research. Literally the only thing the Middle East exports that America I guess needs is war. Now America needs war
Forget about it!
I really don't agree with this
they dont care about our opinion. I really hope we have our own French Revolution here. I call dibs as Marat.
@@EuroMaidanWasAnInsurrection French Revolution where?
@@EuroMaidanWasAnInsurrectionmarat?
Why do you not agree
@@adenm8963 Saudi Arabia's a dictatorship. America should only protect democracies like Taiwan Ukraine and South Korea
10:02 plus plus??????????
Yeah lol, So it's (Nebula +)
I thought that too on the last video lol... sounds awful
MEATO OR METO
Netanyahu single-handedly destroyed the Jewish peoples global image over these past months. Don't get me wrong, I love the Jewish people, but the world is not exactly filled with people who think things through.
I do not understand the idea that the US must go over the head of Netanyahu to appeal to the "Israeli political class". You do realize that the government making every decision rn is composed of every major political party in Israel, right? There is no significant difference in opinion between Netanyahu and his opposition Benny Gantz on the issue of Gaza.
Nearly zero people in the West understand Israeli politics and treat Bibi as a dictator despite crowing over democracy. It's at least consistent.
Terrible deal.
GREAT POINT from the KINGDOM!!!!
Saudi Arabia is more of a moon colony than a country
As if any of this will stop Israel from doing what they want 😂
The point such a pact will help isreal to get what it wants
To be fair, saudi is secretly an ally of israel, my father said because of different factions muslim shia or suni and economic ties with israel
@@ricobacalla1891 and who is your father?? Minister of foreign affairs?? The Saudi’s have only transactional relationship with kaffir countries just like Iran with china and Russia. I hope Palestinian leadership realize they should not rely on Iran a Shia kaffir group but rather the Saudi’s which could give them better deals and better outcomes.
@@ricobacalla1891 Don’t be so ahead of yourself today’s friend could be tomorrow’s enemy. That’s a rule you can’t forget in the Middle East.
@@ricobacalla1891 Saudi Arabia isn't and hasn't ever been an Israeli ally. They're an American ally being literally bribed to just so much as accept Israels' existence.
If you think about it. What would you have if you were to combine the following ingredients. 1) Egyptian Manpower. 2) Israel Technical Skills. 3) Saudi Arabian Finance.
Obviously technical skills?
Do you see Egyptian troops stationed in Israel. Israeli fighter planes stationed in Egypt ? Cause both of those scenarios are completely imaginary
would be equivalent to the US
which isreal technical skill 😂🤣🤣🤣
Egypt under Sisi and Similar dictators is a wasteland/backwater not a manpower.
no pls noo
USA has heaps of security packs with people. Hope they are willing to keep them all.
A mid-east NATO would certainly be an interesting way to achieve much-needed stability in the region; all the countries involved *_would definitely_* have to officially *_AND_* permanently recognize Israel as a sovereign state though -- as well as a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine of course -- given how many dictatorships would be a part of it.
I hope that’s cynicism, this kind of NATO organization and agreement will not work in the Middle East, that’s not EU.
I hope that if the two state status quo is made then people can agree to something, I still don’t like terrorist groups being in charge like Hamas though
@@RNKel1 If Israel can beat Hamas, I hope they install a more moderate government.
NATO Against who?!
NATO is a war machine and wherever they set foot the place never knows piece. Nato was kicked out of several countries because the war never stops and sexual assaults rises.
Reminder that this will never happen unless Israel benefits 30 times from the US, whatever Saudi Arabia gets. Saudi Arabia offers a lot to the US. The US in return offers back a lot. Israel will then ask for handouts in return or they'll veto the deal in the US Congress. Welcome to the Middle East.
"Our greatest ally"
@@thomasinefitzpatrick Ha, good one. "Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."
I love the blame the jews game too, it's fun
@@rennyskiathitis8178"NO STOP HOLDINGS ACCOUNTABLE GOYIM" hava...Nagaila give me my taxes back
Are you on drugs? Saudi Arabia doesn't offer jack. Have you ever served with your security forces or done any of the joint operations? No they offer nothing. They're an oppressive state they regularly abuse women and minorities. We should not be making a deal with them we should pull all aid from them and just let nature take its course
I thought Saudi Arabia always had US protection?
Lets imagine that normalization did not happen and Saudi Arabia did not sign with America and Israel: 1- Saudi Arabia can still obtain nuke from China and Russia, and America will not dare to impose a single sanction so that the sanctions will not also affect themselves through the dollar currency. 2- I do not think that Saudi Arabia prefers the Russian nuclear, but rather they will prefer the Chinese one so as not to give the Russians an opportunity to put pressure on Saudi Arabia regarding oil, since Russia is the real oil competitor, not America. But this means the necessity of the presence of Chinese experts in Saudi Arabia for the nuclear program, which will endanger the secrecy of American weapons. 3- Strengthening Saudi-Iranian relations more than before, with Chinese guarantee, which will pose a greater danger to Israel, since Israel previously faced Iran alone, while the Arabs have remained neutral since Camp David agreement. 4- America will be busy with the conflicts of Israel in the Middle East and will not be able to devote their 100% power to China and Russia, not to mention that the US may suffer more disasters similar to 9/11, since even Muslims in America and around the world, not only Arabs, owe their loyalty to Saudi Arabia due to the existence of Mecca. 5- The financial weight of Saudi Arabia, and the rich Gulf states, will shift from America to Russia or China, which will strengthen the quality of Eastern weapons even more, and there will not be a large gap between Western and Eastern weapons. That is why America is the one who most wants this normalization and does not mind not let Saudi-Israel get public gains, because the strategic gains will be to the US, and even the entire region. I also believe that Saudi Arabia does not want to make this deal with Biden so that he does not gain extra points, and prefers Trump because of the strong relations.
I wonder which territory they’ll “inch” towards next?
Lebanon
Israel will probably try to invade *Southern Lebanon* and end Hizaballah influence on the area just like UN accords says. However if Israel will find and opportunity to end Hizballah’s regime for good, they will not hesitate to so.
no the us obviously isn't gonna end this war because it doesn't want to 😂
Just realised you guys are probably going yo have to go out and cover the chaos of Eurovision since it's related to this and I CANNOT wait
Isn't this basically a containment policy? Giving the kids some candy to promise them to not bully the smaller kids. Shouldn't this also come with a condition for the Saudis to pull out of Yemen if they even want to start to pretend that this will be effective.
How does Lebron's legacy affect Gaza?
The US needs to pick its allies better.
So many inaccuracies....
Remember Jamal Ahmad Khashoggi
If Gaza isn't Israel, and if Crimea isn't Russia, then Western Sahara belongs within Morocco on maps
The US acknowledges Morocco’s sovereignty over the West Sahara since they were the first country to recognize the US
It's an empty desert
@@Jay_Kry5hom nope. It was a deal trump made so they start diplomacy and recognize israel
Israel says Gaza is not their.
@@AL-lh2ht like, in a way... but not really
Kinda chill being German at the moment… I can just say I can't comment on Israel and that's it 💀
Why?
@@ShadowBlitz776Germany has a "complex" history with Jews themselves.
@@ShadowBlitz776 Cause we were kinda naughty towards jews in recent history 🤔
@@koopa_6ghg257History is written by the victors, Especially if it’s a world war where the allies controlled 97% of the world by land mass
@@koopa_6ghg257doesn’t really matter what ur great grandparents did as you won’t be judged for it, What matters right now is do you recognize the genocide done towards the Palestinians?
The US should leave the Middle-East and not make deals that make leaving impossible.
I don't understand how Americans voters don't see how insane it is to get into a defense pact with Saud Arabia just to appease Israel. Our politicians act like we're a colony of Israel and no one even blinks. It stuns me how people can keep voting these politicians back in.
The only reason it hasn't is because most Americans have no idea this is a thing. All this media talk of how political and divided the US public has become is hype: the average American still isn't paying attention to anything that isn't immediately relevant to them. There's approx 0 chance Americans who aren't terminally present in DC would ever sign on to anything like Mideast NATO - especially when most of us associate the Saudis with 9/11, lots of younger Americans already lost friends and classmates in Mideast wars, and support for Israel is plummeting especially among the demographic that could be asked to risk their lives for it.
The Saudi defense deal is not about appeasing Israel. The US is trying to leave the Middle East, but they don't want to leave in a way that leaves Iran strong enough to dominate the region and they want the region to stay somewhat stable. Getting Israel and the other Gulf countries to cooperate means there's a strong enough bloc to curb Iranian influence (Israel has the tech and intelligence, the Arabs have the geography and money), meaning the US doesn't have to do it anymore. This frees up the US to concentrate solely on China and the Indo-Pacific
Produce more oil than you consume and there was literally no reason to be in the middle east at all.
@@MuiltiLightRider The US does not want to leave the Middle East because if it does China will come in and take over. That's how superpowers work.
@@dadikkedude The United States might be doing that now but for some complicated reasons to do with pipelines and types of oil and types of oil refineries the United States has to export some oil and import some oil. The United States might be able to fix the problem by building new oil refineries but that is very expensive. I don't think the United States has built a major new refinery in 40 or 50 years. Alberta built a large new refinery a few years ago but the cost was well over budget and it's going to run at a loss. It's hard to justify building new refineries if they are very expensive and might run at a loss and when it is possible that the refined oil won't be needed in 20 years .
Americans gain nothing from this deal.
When have they (the average American, NOT politicians or big corporations) ever benefited from these deals? That's the craziest thing. Every country US interferes with ends up being screwed and the average American ends up either not benefiting or even worse, paying the consequences of them such as mass illegal immigrations from these countries or foreign militants with a grudge flying commercial airplanes into buildings.
Oil
@@jamessherry3019 US has its own oil. It's been a net exporter for the past few years.
@@yakuza01Fair, but can't deny that Japan, South Korea, and Western Europe benefited greatly from the U.S. investment. Times have changed though. U.S. can't pay for everything.
@@jasong3972 so are you saying they don't just love bringing democracy to other countries have their own oil?
Israel public will get furious if military op completed without hostages brought back home. I don’t understand these geo political speculations completely ignoring the issues of hostages.
A handful of hostages were taken. Far more people have died in Gaza. The enemy is prepared to fight to death. This isn't going to go anywhere. If Israel "wins" this war, its reputation will forever be tarnished. And if Israel "wins", there still won't be peace. Do it look like the arabs are about to give up?
Many of these ideas have no idea of the views of these states towards each other or other regional powers like Iran; nor how the local cultures work with how you make statements or how your enemy's enemy is your friend. While they get on neither Saudi royals nor Hashmite royals are going to back down on who are the guardians of the galaxy (or at least its theoretical link points). Even the UAE is a lot less united that the name suggests and often the unity exists because of the competition between its biggest powers to like matter and anti-matter....
Man, the Israelis and Palestinians are so hard to deal with.
I blame Palestinians man you can see in the Hamas and PLO flags the picture of the whole territory under Palestinian control.
yh. Both have strong ambitions beyond their means. It would be great to stay away as much as possible. But they keep puling you in. It's either you are with or against... you can't be be neutral. But that was before the ICJ concluded a possible case of genocide... now it’s a total mess... if you are neutral, that makes you a somehow collaborator...
@@mephilees7866 That's not what the ICJ concluded. Even the president itself denied that assertion. They said there's no evidence to call it such but at the same time urged Israel to be careful and make sure it doesn't escalate to such a scenario. Which is fair enough.
@@mephilees7866It's really hard to get a clear picture of the situation, so I try to stay away. But there's always people who just bring it up as casual conversation haha
@@adamcummings20 what’s so hard to understand about colonization, apartheid and genocide? Remember that one side actively benefits from people thinking it’s complicated.
Don't think That is possible as Israel will not tolerate the two state proposal. US and UK Just veto against another UN proposal bought forward by Saudi Arab to accept Palestan as an official part of UN.
The only reason their is no Palestinian state is that Palestinians keep attacking Israel. How many times has Israel given up land, yet the attacks keep coming? Hell Israel left Gaza 20 years ago and the Palestinians quickly turned it into a terror city, used aid money to build caves, and started launching rockets at Israel. Until the Palestinians realize Israel is not going anywhere, and that they need to come to an accommodation with them, then their cannot be a two state solution. Let me ask you this? Who would run this second state? The PLA? They haven't' called elections in 14 years since they know their radicals would take over and do to the west bank what HAMAS has done to Gaza, and Hezbollah has done to southern Lebanon. At some point that damn will burst and the radicals will either take over via the voting booth, or via the gun. The population is just too radicalized for their to be any other outcome. Why should Israel accept a state on their border that will be used to attack them and that according to the rest of the world they aren't allowed to fight back against, and just have to take rockets falling on their population and killing their people? Who when that state sends people over the border to rape, kill, and kidnap their citizens, they have to sit back and accept it. Whenever you think the Palestinian population is innocent in all this, and that they are just being held hostage by HAMAS, just remember they were cheering as the bodies of Israeli civilians were paraded in the streets of Gaza, and by every poll available would support another Oct 7, despite what it has done to their country. They have been bred from elementary school to hate Jews, not dislike, flat out hate, and kill them whenever they have the chance. How do you negotiate with someone like that?
This is an astoundingly bad idea. We need to wean ourselves off oil and stop being a de facto colony of Israel.
I personally dont want to be forced into a middle Eastern war
US is always involved so u got not choice
@@Beyonder1987 emphasis on "want"
This treaty will not be worth the paper it will be written on.
Why? Treaty's last because the signers have similar interests. Right now Iran has made that similar interest, by going around and causing problems in all the middle east countries.
@@CaptRR Precisely, which is why this won't work. Saudi Arabia is militarily incompetent and is embarking on a variety of insane economical projects in the hopes it will prevent their economy from collapsing once the oil demand drops considerably in the 2030's. These bright projects include Neom (the line city). Furthermore the only reason the Saudi's aren't facing a popular revolt is because their citizens don't have to do anything but obey. Saudi Arabians are an atrocious workforce because the government gives them everything in return for keeping them silent. Israel would be forced to help these guys militarily which is a tall task for the IDF. So tall in fact it would be impossile without the US also intervening militarily. Israel is an Apartheid state that is comiting atrocities that I don't think nations like Rhodesia or South Africa ever commited. However those two got sanctioned. The existence of Israel literally depends on US money both in the form of economic and military support to Israel as on economic support to certain neighbours like Egypt and Jordan to 'bribe' them into being friendly. I don't mean that Israel can't take on Jordan or Egypt militarily, but without that money from the US it would be far easier for others to sway Egypt and Jordan into the anti-Israel camp again. By the way the US is going to need to up their money supply to Egypt pretty soon because Egyptian finances ain't looking good. Not to mention the nation's future is not looking good. More ultra-orthodox Jews that don't do military service and create a lot of offspring whilst usually surviving on social wellfare and we might have all forgotten this, but Netanyahu is not well-liked in Israel. Remember those corruption charges he only escaped from by becoming PM again in the nick of time and the unpopular judical reforms he pushed through with the help ofthe ultra-orthodox Jews? After this war there's going to be a lot of politcial upheaval in Israel as I don't think Netanyahu is going to want to step down voluntarily anymore. The US meanwhile is going to have to explain to their citizens why they're investing so many resources in defending an apartheid state like Israel and an absolute Islamist monarchy like Saudi Arabia in an era where their stake in the Middle East has been greatly decreased. The US ain't no longer dependent on Saudi oil like it was in the early 2000's. I cannot see how either presidential candidate would win by doing this. Trump is all for making America great again, so I don't see how involving himself with Israel and Saudi Arabia is going to help that. Meanwhile Biden is already facing significant headwinds for his current policies. Neither nation has values that compare with the US values. Not to mention it is going quite contrary to where US military policy seems to be heading towards as the US is decreasing their capabilities to support overseas operation. One of the reasons why the pier in Gaza is taking so long to build is because that specific capability had to be brought online again. Also Iran might be stirring up trouble, but it's quite clear that they're not planning on doing it directly anytime soon. They made it quite clear they're not willing to enter a hot war yet.
@@CaptRR Treaties with the US need Senate approval, which it won't get. This won't be a "treaty", it will be something else, that depends on the will of the USA President, and it will have no legally binding significance. It will need to be renegotiated when the Administration changes in 2025 or 2049, or earlier if the winds blow differently.
At this point I'm behind anything that can stop this war
You CANNOT include Qatar in the “METO”….
It cant.
Ah, so they’re trying that United Arab Republic thing again?
No, that significantly weakens their diplomatic power. Individually, they can gradually accumulate advanced technologies and industry without worrying about group sanctions because of the actions of another
United Arab Republic was meant to start as a federation but progress towards becoming a unitary state. This is literally nothing like that, closer to NATO or the SCO if anything
Not at all. Its a military alignment against Iran, who has been causing trouble in all these countries. Truthfully if Iran wasn't in the picture none of these countries would be talking to each other much at all. But when one Country is trying its best to overthrow all the other countries, it makes it much easier to align against that country.
@@CaptRR Saudi Arabia and Iran have been normalising relations and making peace with one another. It was conspicuous absent from the video
Hi TLDR news can you please fix the map at 0:43 Western Sahara is missing from morocco's map, Thank you.
Hahahahahahahaha you Moroccans are crazy
Lmao does it really matter for a video about Israel and Saudi?
STOP being a person who loves hes land ! there is no real ownership of land its all an illusion the create war and terror
Typical victim mentality
Western Sahara is a disputed territory, which they show with a dotted line on the map.
General scientists CEO of Saudi Arabia
Interesting
Oh yeah, history shows that a US-led military alliance has always been the perfect recipe for peace.
NATO has in fact never been successfully invaded
2:28 since when does the Saudi Royal Family listen to their people? 🤣🤣
Dude if we don’t like them how come we pledged our allegiance to them in the past 300 years. We love our government and don’t be surprised.
Well they are giants with feet of sand. Ultimately a monarchy needs some degree of support or it will be toppled. Something like the Saudi royal family that spends massive amounts of money could be easily seen as leeches if they don't at least keep their people happy. So they actually put some substantial efforts in trying to improve their subjects lives. In particular something as sensitive as Palestine is something that they need to consider. They don't want to come across as US/Israeli stooges.
Iran has inadvertently helped Israel more than its ever hurt it
While Biden may consider this a diplomatic win, I feel that it would hurt his reelection chances.
"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."
Israel didn't force the U.S. to meddle in Iran and start the events that lead to the Islamic revolution. U.S. did that to themselves.
whose quote is this? ^^"
The U.S. had no enemies in the middle East because it wasn't a major power. As soon as it was, it undermined the UK and France at every turn, hoping to get their influence for themselves. Of course they were played by many countries who preferred the Soviets. It's only really the Saudis who they won over by supporting their worst form of conservative Islam with weapons and technology/expertise which has allowed them to export their hateful ideology and terrorism worldwide. Wahhabism has gone from being a minority sect to the form funded the most across the globe. The secularist goals of the 20th century Arab nations were completely undermined and we can thank the USA "closeness" with Saudi Arabia for that.
Every time someone distorts history to scapegoats Jews I’m reminded of Neo n@zism
There was no Middle East before Israel
WHAT THE HELL ??? As a person of middle eastern descent who has also studied Middle East relations, Um, you clearly have very little idea what you are talking about. Might I suggest you try a new topic, or research more thoroughly ? This is not reality.
Spoken like someone who is actually been, or knows about the sandbox. These news people they don't have a clue what stuff is actually like over there. What it's actually like on the ground not in a newsroom halfway across the world.
Quite. I agree. Though I'm also well versed enough in the history to wonder what YOUR 'reality' re the issue happens to be😁
I understand your frustration, but may you explain why the video is inaccurate. That is more helpful than saying ‘this isn’t true’.
@@Gravityper Northen Arabs get triggered when Saudi is mentioned
Saudi Arabia is a good partner in West-Asia , only second to Israel
I've had nebula for a year and a half now and don't regret it
This is also the main reason why Hamas attacked Israel to sabotage the bilateral ties between Israel and Saudi. This is also serve the Iranian favour. It's all geopolitical.
Thank God someone speaks of this. It also was a ploy to stop the India Middle East Europe Corridor, which was dependent on Israel-Saudi relation. Unfortunately, a lot of people are just prey to propaganda.
Normalization with the ME was always going to require a Palestinian state, and Hamas knows they're toast if this ever happens. Since no Western backed 2-state solution would ever include Hamas, loads of international resources would have to be poured into propping the PA, their biggest internal rival. Hamas' pockets won't be a stop anymore on the international aid gravy train. Plus it would force them to abandon their rebranding and come clean about their eliminationist plans for Israel. They also did it to signal their top dog status to their other internal competitors, (IJ, etc) who felt before Oct 7 that Hamas wasn't hitting Israel hard enough.
The Abraham accords include the territory of Moroccan Sahara (western sahara) since Israel and the US both recognized the moroccan sovereignty over the territory since the Abraham accords. It's a mistake in your video that you must correct.
I guess it wasn’t the real idea of the video… Btw would you care to explain to me what is Western Sahara? I was talking to my friends the other day and they told me that it’s a similar situation to Palestine so I’d like to understand.
Algeria will have something to say about that. That will just inflame another conflict in the attempt to settle this one.
@@happyjay9168Morocco controls like 80% of West Sahara since Spain left in 1974. However there are groups in West Sahara against Morocco and there nations (like Algeria) considering West Sahara as an independent state and not a part of Morocco. In the UN, West Sahara is considered "not under anyone's control"
@@happyjay9168 The Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, also known as the Sahrawi Republic or Western Sahara, is a partially recognized state, recognized by 46 UN member states and South Ossetia, located in the western Maghreb, which claims the non-self-governing territory of Western Sahara, but controls only the easternmost one-fifth of that territory (Morocco controls the rest). Its' goals are supported by Algeria against Morocco, and it maintains diplomatic relations with 46 United Nations states, and is a full member of the African Union.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn thank you
So cooy trumps accords 😂
It’s not happening.
Isn't this deal already dead then considering Netanyahu has already started his invasion of Rafah? Also why should Netanyahu concede to anything when America will continue funding its war machine and genocide regardless of the threats America throw about?
how so? Gets his invasion and then virtue signal as though they didnt even invade 90% of the way through. Biden and yoohoo own their respective national medias
You always ‘seem’ to ‘forget’ to mention that Israel just wants the hostages back and it will stop 😊
It wouldn't stop. In case you don't know, the zionist, fascist Israel wants to ethnically cleanse Gaza. You should look at other sources, look at things from different perspectives.
Than why did they refuse the deal for ceasefire and return of hostages? How can you believe such obvious and blatant lie lol
@@Bleilock1so that Hamas can butcher another thousand civillians. Sheesh, why isn't Israel allowing that? Why did US go after ISIS?
@@Bleilock1 They've refused many, many such deals too, even right after Oct 7th. Because they don't want a ceasefire, nor do they want the hostages back lol
Iran would attack Saudi Arabia for the same reason Russia attacked Ukraine.
the US doesn't need Israel as an ally or to have its partners ally with it. There is no good reason for the US to support Israel, it is economically, militarily, and diplomatically dependent on the US. Israel to the US is as Austria-Hungary was too imperial Germany, basically a deadweight. I would take the defense pact deal with Saudi Arabia.
The Israel lobbyist would never allow that
What does the USA get out of a defense pact with Saudi Arabia? More money for defense industries, but given the war in Ukraine, it doesn't need Saudi bucks. The more logical partner with Saudi Arabia is France or India, with India being the more logical relationship.
@@richdobbs6595 US is in urgent need to focus it resources on China which is something cannot be obtained with the current situation in the middle east
Iron and lazer dome would disagree
Well Monty, I was wondering if given a choice between door number 1 and door number 2 I could just pass on both. I don't like either choice. Israel and Saudi Arabia both have horrific governments.
This pact tears apart NATO's pretence of "defending democracy"
No because it’s not NATO, it’s a separate pact
That’s weird since this has nothing to do with NATO.
Nato is not part of this
@@DiviAugusti russian bots arent known for their logic
@@andrewrogers3067 No it isn't. How the hell are you fooled by political semantics in this era?
Why do we need to normalize relations with Israel? Israel’s only real threat is Iran and would benefit from any opposition to Iran and its proxies
as an Israeli i say normalization isn't for us it's for the Arabs im not a fool who was born yesterday that believes that any Arab will lift a finger to help us
why would anyone help a genocider ?
A normalisation of relations between Israel and the Saudis is unlikely; it is more likely that the Royal families in both Jordan and Saudi Arabia are overthrown before this could happen..
saudi actually establised deal with israel regarding intelligence and security as they have one common enemy: Iran. So normalising ties between both countries isn't a far-fetched idea.
@@chootanf I thought that relations between Saudi Arabia & Israel was already pretty good in comparison to their relations to others in the region (especially Israel)
Long story short Muslims are extremely anti semitic
a Revolution could happen in Jordan but NOT Saudi Arabia sense they are currently just too powerful with oil. Which explains to you how MBS was able to imprison all the Scholars who stood and spoke against him without much backlash.
@@darky1595not if it happens from within the Royal family’s inner-circle. Saudi citizens, even at high levels, are increasingly at odds with the openly corrupt royal family. Some 95% oppose Israel normalization
I love how you erased Palestine on your thumbnail picture. If you did that to Israel your channel would be shut down.
I don't anything wrong with the map, do you? 😊
@@blacklight4720there is no Nazi Germany
Eh....Bibi is having none of that
Please have a better name. METO lol
How is iran a threat to saudi after they just normalised ties and they have embassies in each other’s countries now
They signed a paper so what? They have a long time conflict because of religious differences and their proxy hit Saudi Arabia
Two big countries in the area.... One produces oil one finances people who attack oil tankers.... And trade routes...
Trust Iran at your peril. They have grey operations anyway and don't attack openly most of the time. Very weird expansionist style.
@@Mark-gd2ti yemen is only attacking ships liked to israel US and Uk. They leave the rest alone. Iran has promised they have no problem with and of its neighbouring countries unless they attack first they have clearly said that and proved on keeping that word with their retaliation towards israel after israel bombed the iranian embassy in syria, they didnt touch anyone else , its just israel they have a problem with because of their genicide.
@@ateampossible every country signs papers thats what. The religious differences seem to be boiling down and saudi iran normalization is seen as a win win for both and i think MBS and iran have both realized this , the west does not like this. This security deal doesn’t have anything to do with iran otherwise saudi wouldn’t have normalised.
1 view in 24 seconds, bro fell off
Not this bot
We are really trying make a treaty with jihadis 😂. people in the west really don’t understand Islam.
Wait someone get me my meds... Is that Mr. BEAN Next to Chinese supreme leader at 3:23 ?
probably not😂
and behind them is Lord Luhut...
The betrayal of the Saudis is the most disgusting thing in Arab history
It's not a war
Right. It's tomato fight
It's a genocide
@@mcboat3467 nope starting and than losing war is not genocide. It's called pathetic
@@celestialsatheist1535 If you think they've lost, you have no idea how unconventional warfare works. Hell they haven't even lost a fifth of their forces, and are more popular than ever, while their enemy is more isolated than ever before.
@@celestialsatheist1535 And the do it over and over again.