Can India's Great Green Wall stop desertification?
Planting Great Green Walls in an attempt to restore dry land has become a continental effort, led by governments and NGOs in both Africa and China. Now India has ambitious plans to do the same. But planting and sustaining millions of trees in water scare locations is a huge and complicated undertaking. To regenerate plant life at scale, what can India do differently?
#PlanetA #GreatGreenWall #desertification
Credits:
Reporter: Amelia Martyn-Hemphill
Supervising editor: Joanna Gottschalk, Malte Rohwer-Kahlmann & Michael Trobridge
Video Editor: Markus Mörtz
Thumbnail: Em Chabridon
Interviewees:
Neelam Ahluwalia, Aravalli Bachao Citizens Movement
Chetan Aggarwal, environmental analyst
Joseph Faluyi, COO and Executive Director of the Great Green Wall of Africa Foundation
George Taylor, desertification expert, University of Colorado
Latika Thukral, I am Gurgaon
Read more:
science.thewire.in/environmen... www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...
www.outdoorjournal.com/in/unc...
aravallibachao.wordpress.com/
www.iamgurgaon.org/
pib.gov.in/PressReleseDetailm...
www.smithsonianmag.com/scienc...
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
0:48 The advancing Thar desert
1:43 Causes of land degradation in India
4:00 India’s Great Green Wall
4:28 Examples from Africa and China
6:23 Is this a good idea for India?
8.55 Citizen movements achieving success
10:42 What needs to be done to save the Aravallis?
Do you know of any regreening projects in your area?
Yea, the Indian saffron government does a lot of projects all over the country. Such as, hindu-muslim divide, destruction of independent news media, propaganda stunts such as demonetisation and CAA, changing name of different places including the name of the country itself, and projecting Feku as a God. And all the projects are hugely beneficial not for the country, but for their political party.
Re forestation efforts in last 20years have succeeded in parts of Maharashtra state so well that leopard population has increased & humans have suffered. Irrespective of results we still need green cover.
Did you make an effort to interview G. Taylor and he said only 20 or so words? Typical US style shallow reporting. He just had to point onto the 'witch' - climate change. I've just watched kzhead.info/sun/npuRlrCKkGKAoH0/bejne.html where in India they have dumped rubbish and destroyed 1000 y.o. huge irrigation system, but now are reviving it. Nothing, nothing to do with the 'witch' - climate changes. G. Taylor: '...idea doesn't hold a water' 🤣🤣🤣 - very expert like! In this very video there is a lot of talk about how HUMANS destroy Aravalli Monutains - but let's call the witch - climate change! Very US style shallow reporting. What is the point of this video? What's te message?
kzhead.info/sun/ZLiuabioaKadgHA/bejne.htmlsi=HTQZ0NkzvGKE5g1j
Permaculture is the only way. Look up Cauvery Calling, Ralley for Rivers, the Pani Water Cup. And Andrew Millison covers it.
Andrew Millison did a great job documenting India's Paani foundation water cup contest, in which farmers fixed their local desertification, village by village, in just a couple of years. It's really impressive.
That's a different region and state of Maharashtra.. that has been a good success but the northern states are not much interested in ecological balance
@@rohand04 Oh. Not even after the paani cup was a success? They didn't want to copy? Strange.
@@ryn2844There are plenty of people working in different areas.. Don't make opinion reading some random comment.. Indian's can do this once they see little success..Pani foundation is success of year's of hardworking.
what an illiterate opinion . @@rohand04
@@anime4life636 well show me apart from the few ecological NGO that are working in Rajasthan.. who are revival of the ancient lakes.. who is working on aravali and getting results.. The distruction of yamuna and ganga.. the stubble burning.. gurgaon and NCR have destroyed the aravali.. should I go on..
I grew up in a village in the Shekhawati region of Eastern Rajasthan where the entire village was once surrounded by several small hills on each side, lending breathtaking views to the area. About 10 years ago, several mining companies starting blasting and mining one side of the hill and within 5 years the entire hill disappeared. I was shocked to see the impact on the area when I visited the village after a few years. The frequency of dust storms has increased significantly and a large part of the agricultural land is now almost barren. Rajasthan Govt. (and residents) really needs to do take urgent actions to prevent this from happening in other areas of the state.
Chipko movement is the only way. Plus indian villagers need to be educated about eco tourism. If those hills had remained, the locals would have earnt more from tourism and in a sustainable manner. Now the hills are gone, and so are lands, and so have sources of income....
eco tourism and beautification while also allowing rich politicians to live there is the solution. So if politicians will not actively work against their own land.
If you have proper documents regarding this project is destroying greeneries in RJ region then you should go to NGT or you can visit their site and submit your report they will take a step to stop this if illegal.
Yes Rajasthan Government is very very bad for protecting environment whether BJP or Congress all these corrupt politicians give tender of mining to there family and friends and they are always trying to fill there pockets. Even in the state capital Jaipur several of hills are now disappeared due to mining these uneducated and selfish , greedy politicians are the worst thing in India they deserved the worst in this world 😢
@@kracks9852It's not just about tourism, India will Loose very big area of Fertile plains, And It would be disaster for a country of 1.4 Billions which can't even feed its own people, Also they helps to deviate monsoon to Northern India. Who is responsible for this? Dumb People and Corrupt politicians. After all whole nation, not only our nation but other nations which is directly or Indirectly dependent on India for Food because India produce large amount of wheat and rice than its requirement and then we export. It will be disaster for Poor nations of Africa and other South Asian countries too.
Im from Rajasthan and I can tell you that politics, illegal mining & widespread corruption has ensured zero progress on the ground. Construction and real estate business is on boom and businessmen are happy to support the upcoming election campaigns. Most of the so called NGOs are hand in gloves with these corrupt business lobbies.
Whoa, sounds like Rajasthan is going through some serious struggles. It's frustrating to see corruption hindering progress, but thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. Let's hope for better days ahead!
@@DWPlanetA India is waiting from so long
And I am from Delhi and have seen no desert storm here, they used to happen decades back.
@@TransgirlsEnjoyer Yea , we only got Andhis (semi-gloomy dust storms) like twice a year
I'm also from Rajasthan, and desert storm in west Rajasthan was a normal thing in summer n still is , it's not a new phenomenon or something lol. Infact desert storm reducing in frequency only every year media sensationalise things like earth is collapsing.
No point having a green wall if there are no strong environmental laws protecting it.
And you assume there would be none!
Such a ignorant this guy is!
Of course there are laws
You should try to get a permission to cut a tree from government department. You will know how difficult it is.
India has one of the strictest wildlife and environmental laws.
5:42 conservation agriculture is also a really amazing solution for this problem. Not only does it reduce the amount of soil getting taken away by wind, but it also allows farmers to grow their crops with significantly less fertilizer which reduces the GHG required to grow our food!
Stop mining
So far as an Indian, I haven't seen this project in action till now. I live in NCR and the quality of air is degrading each year. Hopefully, the Government take strict action and more people come forward for this great cause.
Nobody was in better position to solve the Delhi pollution crisis than the AAP government. They are in power in both Delhi and Punjab. While they curbed the pollution caused by Delhi they failed miserably in doing so in Punjab thanks to vote bank politics. Now they are giving excuses that the pollution came from Haryana and UP.
Thanks to So called Annadatas from Punjab 😂😂
Quality of air in Delhi is degrading because of the Supreme Court. In 2012 Supreme court gave an order that groundwater could not be used for rice farming in Punjab. As a result the planting season has moved 45 days back to the start of monsoon. This also means that between rice harvest and wheat planting there is as little as 15 days. Farmers who used to mulch the crop stubble earlier now burn it as there is no time. Result since 2013 Delhi air becomes horrible from October end. Delhi never used to have air so bad before the Supreme court order.
That is primarily because of those who burn crops. Govt. can do nothing because they ar dominant voters.
Re forestation efforts in last 20years have succeeded in parts of Maharashtra state so well that leopard population has increased & humans have suffered. Irrespective of results we still need green cover.
Leopards will never kill as many people as the dust will.
Yes but Rajasthan Government is so bad corrupt and greedy politicians are giving new mining tenders to there family members
@@mudit1 Rajasthan needs a big shake up rather than the current musical chair of Gehlot and Raje. Hopefully Bjp would make someone new the CM
@@hurrdurrmurrgurr no worries, our country is overpopulated anyway lol
@@juliuscaesar564Our country is not overpopulated compared to other Subcontinental countries like Pakistan or Bangladesh...Pakistan has twice the fertility rate at 2.1 while india has 0.9...soon india will be below the replacement rate after peaking at 1.6 billion and will crash down. already southern states have reached that state. 80% of Pakistans 22 crore population is in the narrow strip of Punjab and Sindh rest half Khyber and baloch province are mountains and desert. Compare Pakistani Punjab and Bangladesh with indian Punjab(haryana,Punjab,Himachal) and West Bengal. then you will know the difference.
These are the kinds of news reports we need rather than meaningless political debates.
True that
As a Hindu nationalist, I couldn't agree more
I live in Gurgaon but I never knew about this. Thank you DW!
🌈🌈🌈
You didn't knew about it because it is a propaganda video.
@@sagarsharma8960please elaborate
@sagarsharma8960 What propaganda ?
Rajasthan has built a great tradition of conserving water through johads. They need to take the lead with such citizen initiatives
The expert on desertification didn't actually say anything about why it didn't had a good track record, was it inviable or just bad execution?
Also, it kind of looks like mars depiction with the dust storms, it's missing the lightning storms. Solar is going to be too late for some places, and I'm guessing wind is not going to have it easy either.
I think he said something like desertification is caused by climate change and changes in rain patterns, and since trees dont really do anything to reverse that, its not a viable solution in most cases.
@@ramganesh4067 But then he made some excuse about China's government being different. What did China do different from Africa, is it an organisational or funding issue and why claim climate change makes it futile while in the next breath calling China an exception? If China is doing it differently we need to know what they're doing.
@@hurrdurrmurrgurrThey're getting things done. Because China's government isn't useless like democratic ones that talk a good game but does nothing at the end.
Indeed! But did they make an effort to interview him and he said only 20 or so words? Typical US style shallow reporting. They just had to point onto the 'witch' - climate change. I've just watched kzhead.info/sun/npuRlrCKkGKAoH0/bejne.html where in India they have dumped rubbish and destroyed 1000 y.o. huge irrigation system, but now are reviving it. Nothing, nothing to do with the 'witch' - climate changes. G. Taylor: '...idea doesn't hold a water' 🤣🤣🤣 - very expert like! In this very video they talk a lot how HUMANS destroy Aravalli Monutains - but let's call the witch - climate change!
The transformation by the IamGurgaon group is amazing - loved seeing those before & after pictures!
2023 this year is unpredictable, As in January we receive very less Snowfall in North India, in March-April we receives heavy rainfall which destroyed crops(wheat) heavily, In May-June summer breaks up the record in Delhi, UP. Resulting in Forest Fires Burning hectares of Forest , Destroying WildLife, Even Flying birds falls down in Delhi and when the summer is going on, Kedarnath and Surrounding area were experiencing Snowfall in summers. These all were just Trailer and the climax was performed by Monsoon season with flash flood all over India. Himachal Pardesh was tremendously suffered by flash floods, Landslides destroying lives, cities, Ecosystem, Economy. The scene was completely unforgettable. But who cares, After Monsoon, Rapid unplanned develpment, Deforestation, Reducing Forest, Shortning of rivers, Mining, Deforestation, Road Construction, Tunnels, Hydro-Power projects in Himalayas all are going in their rapid. Recently, Negativity between people is increasing rapidly in India, as you can see in Manipur, Haryana. When People are killed in the name of religion. So How can we expect Care of Environment. Hope India to Revive I don't wants to Lose my Country its people, its Natue, Its Ecosystem, Its Environment, Diffrent cultures in India, Diffrent relegion in India.
If you go to Google earth you would see how much of land is converted to farmland in India. Exception is kerala and north east states where farmland and forests coexist and look how the air quality and dust control is much better in these states
The south and east states have forest cover go and check it maps
You're just making up shit with no sources. Northeast is completely filled with tea farms. South is filled with coconut, rubber, coffee farms all over.
That is not the reason these two areas are different in Google Earth. It's because Kerala and North East have tropical rainforest climates, while most of the other parts if India is semi- temperat climate.
Also Kerala and NE imports a lot of foodgrains from other states. So if this replicated in all states India would have no longer be self sufficient in food.
Northeast is hill not fertile plains so it's common sense they can't grow wheat & Rice crops & don't talk about Kerala it's just a totally different state it's demography, geography, political sociology everything is exception from rest of India
Such enlightening videos should be shown on tv channels for common people to become aware!!
Razing down mountains and replacing it with a stretch of forest is the very embodiment of 'putting a bandaid'.
Not entirely. Due to erosion the mountain range will disappear anyway in a few million years. That's the fate of all mountain ranges. Trees (and all other plants) fix soil with their roots and cover the soil with their biomass, thus preventing dust storms. So, if forests can indeed take hold, they will fix the dust problem long term. It wouldn't be a bandaid but a permanent fix.
@@lorrainegatanianhits8331 My background is in Geology and that's a very simplistic and wrong idea of both erosion, coupled with the misunderstanding of both the geography of that region and of how dust storms work. To begin with there is a huge difference between a sandstorm in a desert and a duststorm. Another mistake is thinking wind erosion in arid regions are what erodes down mountains. Instead it's the fluvial aka rainwater and surface runoff action that does the heavy lifting of eroding mountains. It's the river channels that cut down and then widens channels, and landslide, mudslides and other mass wasting methods which are triggered by saturation of topsoil by rainwater. Even in arid regions the main force that cuts down mountain is- frost wedging, aka freezing and thawing of trapped surface water. The effect of none of those can be prevent or mitigated by trees. Infact frost wedging is made worse by root wedging- which by the way is a main form of weathering caused by biogenic activity. Mining of mountains, again severely destabilized slopes, which is imperative to keep top soil from erosion. Having lots of trees with strong deep roots growing in destabilized, cut down mountains, is equvalent to taking away the main foundation holding everything together and then putting another weathering agent that increases another weather process of frost wedging. To put it bluntly, it cutting the branch you are sitting in. Now to address the misunderstanding of the sandstorm part here. Sandstorm picks up the loose sand deposits in dunes in vast plains of sand desert and you cannot mitigate that by ignoring the source plains and planting trees somewhere else; that sandstorm will just scour and sandblast through that forest like sandpaper- you think those young trees are going to survive it enough to establish? They'll just get buried by the small part of sand in lower part of the storm that hits the vegetation. The only practical method to mitigate sandstorms, is to green the desert sand plains to build a horizontal blanket of wind barrier. That area which cannot sustain a forest, but only shrubs and other ground covers that can survive in extremely hot, arid regions. And mountains, being there beyond the loose sand plains as a solid vertical barrier, high enough is the only way to physically block the wind and stop the wind from going further. If you raze it down to plains and then plant a forest, you are making an unrealistic expectations of the forest cover to stop something that's towers multiple times the height of trees. It's like expecting a landscaping ground cover plant to do the job of a brick wall. A mountain range is a vertical impervious non-living barrier which physical halts the wind carrying from the sandy plains behind. But once you blast out and level the mountain, and then plant a forest, now what you have is a pervious green live sensitive blanket. It will do absolutely nothing to stop the sandstorm from going inland, simply because of the basic logic of a horizontal cover cannot be a replacement for a vertical physical barrier
@@lorrainegatanianhits8331 Are you using a concept that might not even be true, one that will take millions of years to prove, to disprove their statement? What is wrong with you. Like, the amount of this makes no sense. Also you explained why it's a bandaid essentially. What with the if they can take hold.
I remember stories about those dust storms in the 1960s and 1970s. Rampant corruption has also been a problem for many decades.
Here is my suggestion for greening deserts: 1. Use Supercritical water oxidation to convert fecal waste into water 2. Use this water and other organic waste to fertilize the soil 3. Focus on planting big trees that can provide shade and let nature do the rest. 4. Use drone and AI to spot for any mining activity in the region and create a strong legal framework for addressing this. 5. Provide incentives to people to invest money here in return for either land parcels or other ways of getting a return on their investment.
yess under modi raj you try to stop the mining. you and your fam might end up in one of those lakes in the mountains.
@@SK-em2wd yes and you are educated to keep the people living in poverty without any sight of improvement in their livelihood. Make promises during the elections and keep them stuck in this class struggle
Very ambitious plan you mentioned. But unfortunately it's a fantasy under these Govts. They just weakened the forest protection law instead of strengthening it.
They have to be the right big trees. Actually, start with native. desert hardy shrubs, and don't change the fertility of the soil with a big infusion of organic matter suddenly. Nature is much more complex than ANY machine.
except the drone and AI expenses, its pretty out in the open.. the problem is corruption and apathy more than theft or pilferage.. no1's really hiding while doing it...
Thank you DW for covering this 🙏
Thanks DW for such deep analysis
The Sahara was once rainforest but shifting rainfall patterns encouraged desertification. I'm not sure how effective these strategies will be long term, but their impact might be seen more in making more people aware of the problems of climate change.
The Sahara was not a rainforest
Well, It really was. I found out about it myself just now @@Dimi.g0v
Indeed sahara was a savanna, but the point here being that the part of India surrounding the Thar deserts is semi arid and it gets incredibly hot for 8 months a year. I live about 300kms away in the mountains but we feel the effects even over here. The hot spot effect of the urban sprawl of the capital brings in dry and hot air further in the river valleys. There used to be many forests but now they are getting converted into shrublands. A huge area beyond Aravalli range is badlands with minimal water sources anyway. Saharan desertification at least took thousands of years. Here we are seeing these changes in one lifetime. It's not just concerning, it's directly affecting lives.
Great video! Thanks for clarifying that great green walls don't actually stop the geologic movement of deserts... well in the necessary time. However any large scale permaculture techniques that restore groundwater and soil health are a big win for the surrounding communities and that in turn helps fight desertification.
I don't get it. How does illegal mining happen if the government has already banned it? More than once too? Mountains and hill don't move around. And you need heavy equipment to actually put a meaningful dent in them. What has been the barrier to enforcing the ban?
Help from Indian Bureaucracy
Well who cares when your getting money 🤑 from it. If it becomes desert just blame the govt and nature. Or migrate to other places
These guys only thinks about money, and they have there way around the laws.
Corruption
There is a great organised system of corruption in India for everything
Good initiative by the people and the governments. Restore the green cover asap.
I think that in india thar desert is dying, already a major part of thar desert is now farmland due to cannal based irrigation system... It can easily seen in Google earth time lapse...
So is it bad or good?
@@thecomment9489 im always against on desertification... For me its good..
hence the desert is actuallly expanding east. sand doesn't disappear, it is instead moving towards the fertile yamuna plains
@@uditabhattacharya2824 still there is a hope bro, a major portion of thar desert is now extensively cultivating farm land due to indiraghandhi canal.. And future river interlinking project like sardha yamuna Rajasthan canal could also intensity irrigation and water supply to desert, Future projects like easten Rajasthan canal can stop desertification of easter Rajasthan, still government should do some thing to protect aravally ranges especially in haryana and Rajasthan...
Common people movements can only make a huge difference here. Regroup & fight people. More power to you.
An excellent presentation by your channel 🎉🎉
I've always been curious about this historical period. Thanks for providing such a well-researched and engaging video.
Perhaps the emphasis should be on stabilizing then restoring degraded soils with any vegetation, mainly desert shrubs and grasses. Only success with this stage will trigger investment into tree-sustainability and new tree-planting. And large-scale environmental planning should be prepared for major losses, with the unpredictability of climate change. Any so-called walls may suddenly develop large breaches, that doesn't mean fixing soil degradation becomes less important.
this is a project which needs more awareness campaigns I didn't even heard about it until now and I live in jaipur, I read newspaper daily so clearly it's not advertised well enough for people to know what is going on around them
Even in the state capital Jaipur, The foothills of the nahargarh hill is being encroached upon too These corrupt and Greedy ass politicians have no limits whichever party they belong too🤮
Nurturing the nature is the way forward!
I don't have any great walls but I still plant living things around my home. I hope my little bit helps.
German media doing what Indian media should be doing. Thank You DW.
its refreshing that someone is doing actual journalism. Someday I hope indian jounalist which are very capable, break their chains of government a**licking and do actual journalism like this, which affects everyone in the country if remain unchecked.
You destroy the aravali mountain and then try to build a tree wall!!
Create a problem and try to solve them. Wala you get votes and a name in the history
Correction: *claim* its not *try*
True😔
Where do u think the construction materials come from? U want GDP growth, jobs and poverty alleviation, right? Don't be a hypocrite
@@mlg1279absolutely
Melting glaciers in himalaya has one of the cause, sands dust getting accumulate at top covering snow and rather reflect what white sheet of snow does is absorbing sunlight and melting snow
Desertification might be reversed but how will you get back those beautiful hills that are being mined continuously 😢😢
Mining helps economy...
@@sigmachadtrillioniare6372 economy is important or health of citizens?
Really informative, Tysm for sharing ❤ really sad for Indian politics
India Central Government and State Governments are super super corrupt whatever party comes everyone is corrupt and Greedy 🤮
It puzzles me the expression "illegal mining". Is it so that people take all that machinery during night time and extract the raw materials and then just run away when the sun comes up again? Or is just the government/authorities don't care or turn a blind eye? If everybody goes along with it, the the "illegal" e just a formality.
Big corporates use India's inefficient bureaucracy and corrupt politicians to allow them to mine with just a slap on wrist by the courts
Yes. 1st reason is done majorly with little help from corrupt officials.
The corrupt and Greedy politicians give mining tenders to there family and friends 😡
They actually kills police personnel when raids happen, And they also have connections with corrupt ministers of Rajasthan Government.
This video need more views.
Good report
Perhaps whats needed is to comprehensively review all the projects to see what works and what doesnt. The results seem to be very mixed, so if a program is to succeed its important to benchmark and apply what works into a program and them competently implement it.
What a nice journalism.❤
Hey Ashish! Glad you like the video 😊 We post new videos every Friday. Subscribe to our channel to be notified! ✨
Such quality for free 👏👏
00:01 India's Great Green Wall aims to fight desertification in the Aravalli mountain range. 01:25 Human actions like illegal mining and deforestation are contributing to desertification in India's National Capital Region. 02:58 India's ministry proposed a Great Green Wall to restore degraded land and stop desertification in the Aravalli region. 04:21 The Great Green Wall aims to combat land degradation and create livelihoods. 05:39 Africa's Great Green Wall aims to restore 100 million hectares of degraded land by 2030. 07:03 India's Great Green Wall initiative is yet to commence planting, and there are concerns about the dissolution of forest protection regulations. 08:36 Local communities in India are responding to government inaction by implementing their own reforestation strategies. 09:57 The Great Green Wall in India aims to combat desertification through native plant regeneration and water capture techniques.
You must be an UPSC aspirant.
@@Roberto-nj5yr Good guess I am a NEET aspirant!
There was, and is, a very old wall and fence system that surrounds Mumbai, a left over defence system from centuries ago. There are several of these man made structures all over India. When I was in India, 50 years ago, I was on a train crossing on a bridge. Below me I saw several thousand Indians moving dirt from the floor of a basin up to its ramparts. It was the largest group of humanity I had ever seen.
It's upto the small communities in Village levels to the regreening. Governments will achieve very little.
"these mountains took billions of years to form".... Yeah, most definitely
Yes, rightly said, they are oldest in India. Likev1.8 billion years old.
May Allah subhanawata'ala always protects the people of India
Some of the water from the All North Indian rivers to Rajasthan and Gujarat through a network of canals .
6:55 “the ideas that trees will stop desertification doesn’t hold water” 😂
Desertification has it's roots in the global/earth process system. Turmoil in it presently due to the envirmental disorders caused due to anthropogenic reasons amplifies it's speed. Tiny patch of green cover cannot withstand the stress of destructive forces. It will contribute it's global role in regaining the natural balance, thoug, on micro level. In any situation it's good initiative.
Great Aravali Live Long ❤🙏
I am living in Delhi/NCR but never seen this storm here. it would be true near rajasthan not in delhi though. Delhi has low visibility because of punjabs Crop burning practices.
The Watershed to maintain with paani foundation- compost for fertilizer, compost tea -you can even use any kind of manure/pee Cheap, easy and organic!
The great green wall project is a wonderful idea. Anything that people can do to grow permaculture, natural waterways and forest is good for our planet.
I personally don’t like the lady in the middle who says the gov’t isn’t doing anything right. Gov’ts have to manage the entire ecosystem of the region including the politics. They can’t be single minded about forest conservation. What about the people who live off of illegal mining? Workers who feed their families and buys goods and services using the money from the activities? She’s nagging the gov’t to do something without saying any real practical solutions. The lady after her who actually made a solution into action with conserving ground water and using local infra techniques has my respect as she’s doing something that actually helps the situation not making thing politicized. If you see a problem try to do something about with concrete actions. Too many politicians in disguise of activism makes real solutions harder to implement.
Foreign funded NGO. But last woman from Gurgaon, who created forest is example of a few nice NGO in India.
Trueeeee
Dude, you literally said "illegal mining" and then goes on length to support them... 👏
@@inkedge1519 1. I’m not supporting illegal mining. 2. You don’t crack down “illegal” activities and the world is suddenly a better place. 3. The point I was making is about activism with a single objective and no a feasible solution. We all agree illegal mining to the extent they are bad for overall society should be banned and laws enforced. But public policy don’t stop there you gotta put those people somewhere productive otherwise they’ll cause more harm to the society by joining gang or criminal groups. You think you’re doing a good job by cracking down illegal mining but what you could actually be doing is feeding the criminals the political capital to win over those effected.
The video starts with a wrong fact. Thar desert is actually contracting and has been confirmed by satellite records. Thanks to intensive afforestation programs, better irrigation by indira canal and sardar sarovar, higher rainfall over eastern thar over the last 30 years and farmer cultivating more arid crops like dates, Bael, anar etc instead of water intensive crops
Yes, Western news channel are very good in narrative/propaganda create. They are very busy showing India down or India can't do it. They are really jealous in India's success.
Are u from Rajasthan?
It is contracting by the west and moving towards East.
It had contracted by a small proportion in west but has recently started expanding east
@@HrithikSD4368He's actually correct. I'm from Jodhpur, can confirm.
They are already demolishing the naturally present hill ranges that would have been a counter to desertification if afforestation continued along the range and taken further
It's hard not to read the closed captioning and watch the video. Please leave the CC to KZhead.
but with enough active plant biomass in the region the climate itself could change in reaction. desert crust retains less water and therefore has a much lower specific heat to vegitated crust. with sufficient vegitation an increase in precipitation is encouraged due to moisture (esp from the Senegal River in Africa's case) from the ground being recycled into the atmosphere during photosynthesis. this is conducive to low pressure system by altering atmospheric temperature gradients, leading to converging winds and cloud formation (concentration of water vapor emissions collectively undergoing sudden altitude increase/decrease in pressure)
The main think is which types of tree chosen by government, the some tree not good enough for indian climate and those types of tree reducing ground water level. Specially eucalyptus. So plant proper tree and solve the spreading desert.
Not much that I am aware of, but it seems like a brilliant idea. A huge breadth of fresh air, lots and lots of timber, will create beautiful parks too. However, the government should improve the laws, too.
I believe taking all known species globally, that share climate similarities, and planting them in succession, would maximize your diversity and increase the probability of success. Following initial planting you would maximize diversity even further by integrating sub canopy layer, shrub layer etc, into the same stand planted the previous season. This, while not completely native, would give the highest chance of establishment success.
When selecting global species, lowest minimum and maximum temperatures in recorded history should be taken into account. Successional planting of taprooted species acclimated to the climate would further increase success
Do we have enough gas for this winter?
Not a green wall--they need a turquoise one. Dig a massive river super-trench along the desert-side of the green wall, and link it to the ocean after digging some weird channels at each entrance that allow the water to cool and sit for a while at several stages, hopefully getting at least SOME of the sale to settle to the bottom of each area (Salt removal can probably fund a minor business here at least) though salt removal isn't necessary. With a canal as wide as Amarna, the humidity in the area would skyrocket, and cleaner water would absorb into the ground as it is often wont to do. I feel like the green that would grow naturally could become a tourist attraction, even. Add strong sustainable trees on the non-desert side in special layers; Mangrove at the shore, moving inward with less robust but more region-enhancing trees; food producers, shade canopies, etc etc. It could easily be made to look like some of the more lush oceanic shorelines around the world, even if for the India one (I was mostly thinking of Africa for the canal, TBH) it would need a massive dig project with neighbors to ensure an agreeable preparation, but I feel would benefit everyone.
i am from alwar, rajasthan and i see our ancient mountains disappear its real its happening !
It's well intended and I am glad they are trying. I just don't want their efforts to be a waste!
1. Create clear fines for mines, 2. Give the people a way to submit a report about who is violating the rules. 3. Require key details about names, numbers, companies involved supporting systems like transport facilitation. 4. Give folks who submit a helpful claim $ in proportion to how helpful the report was. 5. Prosecute violators
We need a global effort to combat desertification. While "great green wall" projects may seem like atractive projects, and attract headlines, the root of the problems go much deeper. We need global action, not just in planting trees, but also in improving soil quality, and increasing water retention through ponds, canals, swales, rock dams, and other measures. advances and research into regenerative agriculture can also play a role. This ought to be a global collaborative project as this issue impacts major nations like China, the US, Australia, African nations, and Spain, as well as likely many others. There should be research and strategy sharing, to combat this worldwide problem. Desertification impacts millions of acres of farmland, and impacts the ability of the world to feed itself. The UN and all major players should get more involved, as this is becoming a serious problem.
So much effort in writing... This is a KZhead comment section my guy, not a message to the League of Nations
Welcome to India
I live in the desert area so i would love the desert to eat everything else also 👍👍👍
They should add fog screens to capture any available moisture and retain it.
Never knew this was happening in my country 😮
People living in Delhi ncr know this
Hindi Musalmaan se bahara aa lavde tab dikhega...
I have offered a free hectare of land in Costa Rica to create a food forest and have had no offers. Illegal mining is a huge problem here too.
It is only the village community which inhabits lap of the mountains which can save it. Only in villages where greed takes over ancient wisdom and there is no collective voice among the villagers mining is rampant. In villages where ancient wisdom prevails not even a single pebble from the hills can be taken.
Thank you come again
We live at the extreme west end of aravali here we hear blasts mountains are sold for granites.
Ajmer, a city known for it’s scenic location between the Aravalli hills, is experiencing a lethal “storm” of urban sprawling and illegal encroachment on the hills while the district has already lost several hills in the name of illegal mining. I’m one of it’s unfortunate residents and I can already see the Thar desert engulfing this entire district by the end of 2050s. The unprecedented loss of forest cover and native wildlife species of the Aravallis surrounding the city and the district has turned the once pleasant climate with clean air, fresh water and relatively lower temperatures into a living hell, where the temperatures are soaring higher as each summer passes by while the winters are shortening up. The rise of concrete and asphalt cover in the city is resulting in the air quality dropping down, noise and light pollution levels at an all time high, local flooding during monsoon, and loss of walkability. Most people of the district have gotten normalised to this model of unsustainable development and got no time to worry about the disastrous future lying ahead of them, while they enjoy their favourite meal of kadhi kachori every single day, such a sad state.
*Cries in Radiant Historia*
Isn't desertification reversing in Thar? (according to a report)
It must be mandated to miners to restore the flora after mining.
i wish this sort of news would be more worldspread so people could see what the heating up of the earth has for effects. Desertfication is only getting worse and worse in these areas. Most people just ignore it so long it doesnt effect them.
Somehow, i wouldn't fully believe George Taylor, at 6:24...i saw a video before where people somewhere are making headway with re-greening, especially if a variety of stuff is planted, (Though planting a terrible invasive species is not good, unless somehow it's vey beneficial in some ways for some reasons)...The monocultures, (planting one thing), died out and they had to start again planting a variety of stuff, which worked better...The Chinese government does NOT get things done when it comes to the environment, in fact, the opposite, is my guess...i think re-greening may have started with an individual there, instead of the government...The Chinese literally paint their environment green with spray paint to fool people, and China is the number one contributor to destroying the environment, more than many countries combined...They promote themselves as leaders in green technology, when they use extremely polluting coal plants, and always building more of them, polluting all the water completely, as well as many other things that are destroying the environment there...i would suggest anyone to watch videos about those who expose the Chinese government and it's horrific practices, like "CHINA UNCENSORED," "CHINA FACT CHASERS" which take clips from "THE CHINA SHOW" - (So far there are 184 episodes, even though only a few show up on the video page, so i type in the number, like 184, into the search on their video page, and that episode will come up, and you can type in any number that precedes that as well), "SERPENTZA," "LAOWHY86", "CHINA OBSERVER" "CHINA INSIGHTS," "ADV CHINA," and there are more...🍓🎄
Yea you mean those CIA plant propaganda channels spread misinformation on China in a long running hate and war mongering campaign and you sucked it up. Hardly any of the things they say is true, or accurately represented
It will work
Govt managed centralized mega projects are NOT the way to go. Local projects in which the farmers are invested by making their land productive again are far more successful. But careful water management, combining plants to feed and protect each other and restricted animal husbandry are far more complex than planting rows after rows of trees like many governments want to do. And is much more labor intensive.
amazing nice video
Cheers! 🍀 Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for new environment related videos every Friday! 🌈
Pls check Paani Foundation's Water Cup and Farmer's cup. Amazing stories well documented by an American University Professor, Andrew Millison on the efforts by locals and the results therafter.
None of these initiatives will work out unless the local community is involved.
Gotta protect what you already have
This is an excellent report by DW. I used to like the idea of a Green Wall, but after reviewing the evidence in Africa and noting the way it is being rolled out in India I am skeptical of the approach. Also, the Ministry of Environment, Forests and Climate Change is one of the most inept agencies one can think of in India, so am not surprised they had little to say on this grandiose idea. Unfortunately, environment ranks No. 27 in the list of priorities of Indians, according to an opinion poll. So, if people are not interested, why would politicians be? The way forward to address air pollution in cities, land degradation in villages, and a growing environmental and climate crisis is to enable local communities to act locally. "I Gurgaon" cited here provides a good example. I am sure there are others in the Aravalli region. I am involved in planting mini forests using native species in Mumbai. The Miyawaki Method I use, largely to reduce air and noise pollution may be of some use in Rajasthan.
Weakening protections while promising to do something real soon honest, doesn't sound like mixed messaging. It's pretty clear messaging
Could you please level the audio to a scale audible. I could barely hear what George Taylor was talking about.
Thanks for your feedback. 🌱
Ìt will succeed if the local communities are involved and educated
The people of this region got themselves into this by their own activities, and it looks like they were warned 3 separate times over 15 years! Only now it affects a city are local governments seeing the real problem, poverty and the need to give financial assistance and incentives to stop such outrageous practices. Maybe it's a case of too little too late? The consequences are here, live with them?
Best thing to do to make a green wall is make them food forests for people to take care of and maintain with other native species to help buffer your crops and food trees.
We should protect our lovely trees
Yes. Trees are lovely 🥺
In this situation, India must do what it always does when it faces problems.....Blame the British.
Nice