Pokémon: Gold, Silver, and Crystal Versions Retrospective | The Gold Standard
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== Gold & Silver==
GS Intro (0:00:00)
Intro (0:2:13)
Battling Basics (0:3:23)
Moves and Types (0:04:54)
Evolution (0:19:03)
Battles (0:21:45)
Held Items (0:24:51)
Wild and Trainer Battles (0:26:07)
Catching Pokémon (0:26:27)
TMs and HMs (0:28:20)
Overworld, Field Moves, Day/Night (0:28:53)
Encounters (0:35:20)
Breeding (0:36:47)
Multiplayer (0:38:33)
Visuals and Audio (Bringing Johto Alive) (0:39:31)
New Bark Town (Chikroita, Cyndaquil, and Totodile Lines) (0:41:28)
Route 29 (Pidgey, Rattata, Sentret, and Hoothoot Lines) (0:45:13)
Route 46 (Spearow, Jigglypuff, and Geodude Lines), Cherrygrove (0:47:48)
Route 30 (Caterpie, Weedle, Ledyba, and Spinarak Lines) - Silver Battle 1 (0:50:25)
Route 31 (Bellsprout Line) and the Problem with Evolution Stones (0:55:48)
Dark Cave West (Zubat and Dunsparce Lines) (0:58:07)
Violet City 1 - Sprout Tower (Gastly Line) (0:59:31)
Violet City 2 (Onix and Togepi Lines) + Falkner (1:01:14)
Route 32 and Old Rod (Ekans, Mareep, Hoppip, Wooper, Tentacool, Magikarp, Qwilfish, Krabby, Poliwag, and Goldeen Lines) (1:03:42)
Ruins of Alph (Unown A-Z) (1:08:29)
Union Cave (Sandshrew Line) (1:09:54)
Azalea (Slowpoke Line) and Bugsy + Rival 2 (1:10:29)
Ilex Forest (Oddish and Paras Lines) and Headbutt (Exeggcute, Pineco, Aipom, and Heracross Lines) (1:13:55)
Route 34 (Abra, Drowzee, and Ditto Lines) (1:18:41)
Goldenrod (Machop and Dratini Lines) and Whitney (1:20:44)
Route 35 (Nidoran and Yanma Lines) (1:24:06)
National Park (Sunkern, Venonat, Scyther, and Pinsir Lines) (1:25:22)
Route 36 (Sudowoodo, Vulpix, Growlithe, Stantler, and Shuckle Lines) (1:27:24)
Ecruteak 1 and Burned Tower (Eevee, Koffing, and Magmar Lines) (1:30:10)
Roamers (Raikou, Entei, and Suicune) (1:34:15)
Ecruteak 2 - Morty and Surf (Psyduck, Lapras, Natu, and Smeargle Lines) (1:37:44)
Route 38 (Meowth, Magnemite, Farfetch'd, Tauros, and Miltank, and Snubbull Lines) (1:41:35)
Route 39, Olivine 1, Lighthouse, and Good Rod (Staryu, Cosola, Shellder, Chinchou, and Voltorb Lines) (1:44:18)
Routes 40 and 41 (Mantine) (1:48:21)
Cianwood and Chuck (1:49:26)
Olivine 2 and Jasmine (1:50:19)
Route 42 (Mankey Line) (1:51:04)
Mt. Mortar (Marill Line) (1:51:18)
Mahogany 1 and Route 43 (Girafarig) (1:51:46)
Lake of Rage, Shinies, Mahogany Rocket HQ, and Pryce (1:52:23)
Radio Tower and Story Structure (1:55:50)
Tin Tower (Ho-oh) (1:58:23)
Whirl Islands (Seel, Horsea, and Lugia Lines) (1:59:33)
Route 44 (Lickitung, Tangela, and Remoraid Lines) (2:01:17)
Ice Path (Jynx, Swinub, and Delibird Lines) (2:02:34)
Blackthorn, Dragon's Den, and Clair (Rhyhorn Line) (2:04:27)
Mt. Mortar Upper Floors (Hitmon Line) (2:06:38)
Route 45 (Gligar, Teddiursa, Skarmory, and Phanpy Lines) (2:08:44)
Dark Cave East (Wobbuffet) (2:10:21)
Route 27 and Tohjo Falls (Ponyta and Doduo Lines) (2:11:02)
Route 26, Victory Road, and Silver (2:11:52)
The Elite Four (2:12:39)
Postgame, S.S. Aqua, Vermillion, and Lt. Surge (2:17:15)
Route 6, Wild Levels in Kanto, Saffron, and Sabrina (2:19:08)
Routes 5, 8, and 7 (Murkrow and Houndour Lines) (2:20:31)
Celadon and Erika (Mr. Mime, Porygon, and Grimer Lines) (2:21:31)
Routes 16, 17, and 18, Fuchsia and Janine (Slugma Line) (2:24:17)
Routes 19 and 15 (Chansey Lines) (2:25:49)
Route 14 (Aerodactyl) (2:26:39)
Route 11, 12, and 13, and Lavander (2:27:16)
Rock Tunnel (Cubone and Kangaskhan Lines) (2:27:54)
Route 10 and Power Plant (Electabuzz Line) (2:28:47)
Routes 9, 24, and 25, Cerulean, and Misty (2:29:31)
Route 4 and Vermillion 2 (Snorlax) (2:30:31)
Diglett's Cave (Diglett Line) (2:31:46)
Route 2 and "Viridian Forest" (Pikachu Line) (2:32:10)
Pewter, The Other Legendary, and Brock (2:32:53)
Route 3, Mt. Moon, Silver Rematch, and Mt. Moon Square (Clefairy Line) (2:33:43)
Cinnabar, Seafoam Islands, and Blaine (2:34:31)
Viridian and Blue (2:35:32)
Silver Rematch and Growth (2:36:11)
Routes 22 and 28 (Sneasel) (2:36:43)
Mt. Silver (Misdreavus and Larvitar Lines) (2:37:15)
Transfer and Event Pokémon (Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Omanyte, Kabuto, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Mewtwo, Mew, and Celebi Lines) (2:39:05)
Red (2:43:27)
My Teams (2:45:16)
Prototypes (2:46:24)
Manga Adaptations and Not Covering the Anime (2:47:40)
Adventure/Special: GS Chapter (2:48:24)
Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys (2:51:01)
Conclusion (2:52:22)
==Crystal==
Crystal Intro (2:53:46)
Intro (2:55:08)
Trainer Changes, Encounter Changes and Absent Pokemon, Kris, Animations, and Redesigns (2:55:30)
Ruins of Alph Sidequest, Repeatable Stones (2:57:01)
The Odd Egg and the Squirtbottle (2:57:34)
Burned Tower, Eusine, and Suicune (2:58:22)
Dragon's Den (3:00:00)
The Battle Tower (3:00:44)
Mobile Adapter GB and Celebi (3:03:24)
Conclusion (3:05:13)
Adventures/Special: Crystal Chapter (3:05:59)
Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys Ending (3:10:34)
#pokemon #gold #silver #crystal #heartgold #soulsilver #legends #arceus #brilliantdiamond #shiningpearl
kzhead.info/sun/rLyclbydrYKcdGg/bejne.html here's a link to part 2 (HeartGold/SoulSilver)
I wish I could go back and experience this game again like it was the first time 😭
I genuinely love how neutral the tone of your voice is. No yelling, no dramatics, no skits. Just talking. It makes this video such easier to listen to despite being so long.
Thank youAaa
@@ntmaproductions No problemAAa
@@Jeff_Biden i was very sleepy
thats because his audience is not children, most of us i imagine are in our 20s and have grown up with these games and re visiting them with a fresh outlook, we dont need heavy editing or fake energy to keep us hooked to the video
@@joeyrozic1100 I'm 13. What you said is still true, though.
I must have been around 8 years old when I got my Silver version. It was an early birthday gift my parents got me and I remember reading the case and the manual in the car once we left Walmart. I caught so many HootHoots that night.
Crystal was my first. Named my Cyndaquil AAAAAAAA because I was slow
@@ntmaproductions 😂
I was hyped I could catch Geodude so early haha :D (on the route before the second town)
@@silverhetch3383 The early Gastly in Sprout is one of my favorites
@@ntmaproductions yeah I always went for that one, even though I only used it to mirror match Rival 2 and then I boxed it :D But soon after my all time favorite Machop will be joining the team
I think viridian forest being a hedge maze is kind of poetic. The idea that a dark scary forest full of bugs and such was actually just a hedge maze and it was all in our kid brains is beautifully poetic if you look at it that way.
I think it's supposed to say that the forest was cut down
I literally never cared, like how is it scary lmfao.
@@oneautumnleaff2119idk when I was a kid that forest in diamond and pearl with the mansion was pretty spooky
I love how you let the entire Gameboy color intro play in the begging!
Ah Yes, in the begging
Getting shaymay's 7 hour omega ruby vibes with how much effort you put into this video.
a big inspiration, i assure you
hey hands down this is my favorite retrospective ive ever listened to its been such a good background as i play crystal and has shaped some of my team choices! thank you so much
thank you!!
What team did you assemble my team was good but in a way kinda awkward
@@Jac735 g: Meganium/Magmar/Slowbro/Steelix/Ampharos/Pidgeot s: Feraligatr/Scizor/Victreebel/Ninetales/Skarmory/Gengar c: Typhlosion/Suicune/Raikou/Ho-oh/Lugia/Parasect (and a variety of other guys on the way to getting all of them :))
Try KingK. He doesn't take 3 minutes to start talking.
@@XXXXX8 I liked watching the whole intro
You and king k seem to have my favourite retrospectives. Johto and gen 2 will always be my most fond memories
same crystal was my childhood, and emerald, both my 2 fave pokemon games
Brother this and the HG/SS are you're best retrospective. Is like audio strategy guide.
This is easily my most played game ever.... probably for 3yrs straight I played this when I was a kid.
Major props for this! Love this generation like no other
"4 moves will never be enough" you truly dont know 5 year old me or my overlevel typhlosion
I was the same- mine wss named AAAAAAAAAA
a 3 hour retrospec on gen 2? immediate subscribe.
I'm in love with hours-long video game retrospectives.
Just found this and your hgss retrospectives, I'm gonna have a great Sunday. Thank you for your effort and time!!!
enjoy!
I’m getting it on a Friday. Fitting since Frida is my spirit npc from this gen
“Heracross fucks” killed me lmao
Oh my God that early game grinding is grinding my gears! It's like watching paint dry! The content is fantastic though!
In gen 2 I try to level up all my mons once per route, and once per story building. Also I like to keep a team of 5 max
It’s my party and I get to choose the movie!! In all honesty, though, this was a very good in depth review of the games! Keep up the good work!
thanks! I also have a video on HGSS that was meant to be one long video but Sony Vegas disagreed
@@ntmaproductions it’s definitely on my work playlist for my next full shift haha
I can't imagine the amount of effort that went into creating this video. Great stuff and very much appreciated 🙏🏽
I love this video, very fun how you go through each area in order and break down everything as you go with your own thoughts on everything
Thank you!!
I remember a kid bringing one back from japan before it came here, and everyone loves bow the pokemon actually moved! Simple times 😂 Honestly an amazing game with some obvious flaws (kanto was too low level, late game dark pokemon, more trade exclusive pokemon) but all it brought to the table… it’s easily my favourite pokemon gen. Personally I consider gen 1 and 2 the same because of trading and the stadium series… kinda beautiful when you get a charizard with outrage by breeding or when you use a tm on a gen 1 pokemon and trade it to gen 2.
Yeah I'l never get over Gen 2. Was my first but they're also just beautiful games despite some weirdness
There is a strong argument that gen 1 and 2 are the same. A lot of gen 2 Pokemon were originally designed for gen 1 but we're scrapped/ removed due to hardware limitations. And then used in gen 2. Gen 2 was still created and directed by Satoshi Tagiri( the George Lucas of Pokemon) and then he left Game Freak after Crystal. Ken Suigimori and his team still had the same design ethos from gen 1 and still created the monsters on Japanese water color. Big reason why the franchise felt so different from gen 3 on. Game freak also wanted more "softer" "rounder" designed which has continued to this day. Alot folks refer to this era as the classical era( including the TCG that ended until skyridge) But I like to refer as the " Real Pocket Monsters Era".
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo yeah, I don't think we will ever experience another social-game quite to this level... what with the internet and all. Glad I enjoyed Gen 1-2 when they were new with friends!
Laying in my bed with covid, this is exactly what I needed to make the recovery more pleasant! Thanks for this!
glad i could help!
feel better!
I randomly stumble upon one of your pokemon retrospectives and i just want to tell that i absolutely love the way you talk about them. Its informative, critical with a bit of humour sprinkled in. They are genuinely my favorite thing to watch atm and i am already sad that i will be done with all of them soon...
ORAS will be out soon 😭 I'm doing my best 😭😭
I think the game, despite everyone’s hate, is balanced really well and they give you plenty of ways to train through trainer calls, the underground battle spot in Viridian city that gives you a battle a day and yes the grind if you want. I don’t think the game is meant to be blasted through but more like animal crossing where you’d spend some time in the world each day. Be with your Pokémon, back track and get berries and finish other tasks that you couldn’t do last time because you didn’t have the badge or HM yet, all the while “grinding” as you walk through the tall grass
Awesome retrospective!!! Love your work! Keep it up!
This needs more views. And attention I hope it gets what it truly deserves. What an absolutely crazy good video! Hands down. Wow.
Thank you! It's been blowing up big time which is extremely exciting.
Just found this, and I’m going to have to listen to it in parts, but I’m thoroughly enjoying. I’ll have to check out your HGSS retrospective after this
The HGSS retrospective is even better, hell is the best HGSS retrospective on YT.
@@jenisia3600 I agree. I watched it and thoroughly enjoyed
Oh my god this is so underrated. Keep up the good work man.
this was incredible, thank you for doing such a comprehensive view of the game! ♥
well thank you!
also I have a playlist of the rest and RSE should be out soon (i hope lol)
This playlist gets me through long workdays, so thankful for it! Plan on doing any other gens? If not, still perfect as is thanks again! ✌️
HGSS came out a bit after this and Red Blue and Yellow just a few days ago. Currently doing voice recording for FRLG as I type this :)
This video is awesome man! Keep up the good work
thank you! i have one on HGSS as well
This video is amazing mate carry on the great work! Currently playing through gold for the first time now!
You'll love it I'm sure. More on the way... eventually? I've finished Red and Blue and writing takes ages, plus Yellow, Green, Red JP, Blue JP, the remakes, the second set of remakes.... but eventually.
@@ntmaproductions keep going mate you’ll get there 🙌🙌
I can't imagine I world without Pokemon it seems like a big staple in my life and without it I don't know who I would've been
Such an underrated channel :( I hope it someday sees the success it deserves, I love videos like this
this has blown up a lot and I'll have another soon-ish :)
Your appreciation for Whitney and Clair has earned you a sub sir!
lol based
Both Pokémon retrospectives have been great! Thoroughly enjoyed both several times :) Hope u do the other gens sometime
Gen 1 soonish :)
@@ntmaproductions ace, looking forward to it :) Top work man
I will never get tired of hearing of Gen 2. You’re probably done with it, but I’d like to hear your thoughts on Pokémon Stadium 2 since it goes hand in hand with GSC.
Eventually 😅
Pokemon stadium made gen 2 the best gen and gamefreak is insane for having never made a modern pokemon stadium.
The bell is 100% run for this channel. This is incredible.
the opening music just brought floods back from memories of being a 5 year old...
Going over the head butt encounters with Pineco and Heracross were hilarious. I didn’t expect to hear such comments in a Pokémon retrospective 🤣🤣🤣
wow this is a big review, thanks! I'm so excited to watch it all. But maybe i'll wait till I finish HeartGold and Crystal. I always wanted to own Crystal but couldn't afford it as a kid.
A 3 hour retrospective about 1, more like 2 games, I have played in 2001/02/03 about 900 h (Silver 250 and Crystal 650)? I'm all in! Nice Video!
1 game, 3 times :p Enjoy!
Just got this in my recommends and man you have a wonderful voice
my mic wuality is pretty bsf and has improved, but I mega appreicate it
This was great, well done
You said that this is the only game without a good breeding path, but that's not true. It's just vertical in these games instead of horizontal like the others, but there's a nice long strip between Route 34 and Goldenrod City. Also, breeding for shinies isn't 1/64 except in the very best situations. It can range anywhere from 1/64 to literally impossible to get a shiny from breeding. Due to the fact that shininess is based on DVs and the way DV inheritance works, it's only possible to breed a shiny from an opposite-gender parent that either is shiny or has specific Defense and Special DVs. Ditto is always the parent to pass down DVs so it effectively takes the place of both genders for this. So if you're breeding with a shiny or shiny-capable Ditto, you have a 1/64 chance. If you're breeding something that can only be one gender with an opposite-gender parent that's shiny or shiny-compatible, like Chansey with a shiny male, you'll have a 1/64 chance. But if you're, for example, breeding a female starter with a shiny male you'll only have a 1/64 chance on _female_ offspring and a 0% chance on male offspring, resulting in an overall 1/512 chance. But then there's stuff that is guaranteed to never result in a shiny, like if you have a shiny Chansey it will never breed another shiny Chansey since the offspring will always get its DVs from the non-Chansey parent and you can't breed two shiny-capable Pokémon together because the mechanic to stop breeding parents with children will consider them related. And of course, if neither parent is shiny or a shiny-capable non-shiny they'll never produce shiny offspring. Of course, since you have a guaranteed encounter with shiny Gyarados, which can learn Mimic by TM in gen 1 and gen 1 has a glitch that uses Mimic to make a wild Ditto copy your Pokémon's DVs it's not _too_ hard to get your hands on a shiny Ditto to use for breeding at that 1/64 rate.
In GSC, there are NPCs along the central road in Goldenrod that move back and forth in your path. You can eventually use Nugget brodge which is moderately better but requires a lot of flying. Also very good insight on the shiny breeding, I appreciate it a bunch!
@@ntmaproductions The path I used was off center a tile or two to the East, but as long as you didn't slow down the NPCs would almost never step in front of you. They have default positions and only move randomly while you're in town with them, so you'd need to roll unfavorably like 3 times in a row for them to step into the path. If you slowed down, like not immediately reversing direction when you hit the gate house to Route 35, they'd have more time to path far enough to block you however. It's been a while, but I did quite a lot of breeding back in the day. Honestly I miss the orderly back and forth of breeding in the tile based games compared to the 3D games' "spin the thumbstick like crazy" method.
@@RikkuEcRud I always seemed to have bad luck and needed to veery every few laps. It's not a *terrible* route but ita not nearly as clean and optimal as later generations
Wonderful video, thanks for taking the time to make this. I only wish you would have mentioned how Scizor can earn Baton Pass through breeding, making him a pretty nasty pick with Swords Dance, which buffs Fury Cutter and Steel Wing - both STAB - on the rare occasion the player wouldn't be better off passing those Attack buffs onto another Pokemon.
I love Scizor, but I gotta at least attempt to keep the pace
The hardware definitely held them back from their vision, but it’s a marvel they fit what they had in there at all.
Keep making these my friend and success will come at a fast pace
well, I'm planning on starting on another soon :)
Think I've played more gen 2 hacks than anything past gen 3
Your subscriber count is criminally low. I love this long form analysis and your opinions. Thanks man
It’s my sleepover and I get to choose the movie.
Fantastic work man
thank you!!
When going over the field moves you forgot to mention that Rock Smash has a chance of lowering defense. Which certainly adds to its usefulness.
I mean that's true but at 20 BP in Gen 2, it's still extremely rough. That's half of what tackle does, even if you get STAB on RS
are ya winnin son
A 3 hour video with all of your hard work and editing and you only have 274 likes...What? >.< Great video, you've EARNED my sub.
thank you!!
Sickk job bro this is awesome!
Thank you!!
excellent video
I can’t believe this doesn’t have more views after a year
6:57 tri attack is not a "niche case" it is basically the coolest move in the game
it's niche in the sense that it's rare to see in the single player and has a low chance of applying each effect- more of an edgecase than niche but still
49:13 take it back
@@realINTERNETFRIEND "i like how wigglytuff is constantly a shitty korean knock-off version of clefable it's fun"
@@ntmaproductions yeah i said that and it's true it's charming it owns
1:25:10 take it back
I’m 36 now and loved pokemon gold so much as a kid. Recently got back into it and got heart gold, how sad is it to now find out there is no houndoor in the second part of the game :(
I recently got Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal on my 3DS XL and I can't wait to play through them, lol. I never played the older games, I started off with Gen 4 and Pokemon Heartgold and Soulsilver already spoiled me, lol (along with Platinum). I still have Heartgold and Soulsilver and been replaying through them, I even did the shiny Pokemon glitch where shinies appears often with Jigglypuff Cute Charm just by setting a specific date, time and pressing the buttons at the right moment to get the right trainer ID to get some free shines with the same gender. But I bought the virtual console games on my 3DS XL when I heard about the eShop shutting down soon and I've been curious to play through the older games and then transfer them into Pokemon Bank then to Home.
Just did the same last month. Been shiny hunting in it. Got my shiny Celebi and shiny Extreme speed Dragonite from the elder. Need to take a break though so mush resetting.
@@MIBxSpartan Congrats on the shiny Celebi and the Extreme Speed Dragonite!
I’d like to technically add a 4th way to get stones in G/S/C If you have a copy of Pokemon Stadium 2 and get far enough along in G/S/C you can transfer them through the Pokemon Lab in Stadium 2 using the Colour and Metal Cases if you have a copy of R/B/Y you can use the Missing No. glitch to duplicate those items, throw out 30 of them because the item in your 6th slot is duplicated by 4 times so you end up with 120 and to prevent the games from freaking out it’s best you throw 30 of them.
Get a stone attach it as an item on a pokemon. Do the clone glitch on the pc. Now you have multiple stones. Same with rare candy's.
Same with master balls tbh ;)
The first time I played a gen 2 game my mom RENTED me a copy of silver from movie gallery. Got to get to about the 1st gym then it had to go back lol
lmao never heard of anythong like that before
Love your long retrospectives - are there any games that you're looking to do in-depth reviews similar to these?
Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald is in the editing phase! On top of that we have a games retrospectives playlist that has around 80 game reviews. Some are 10-20 min but some are an hour plus
Wow, those been 3 tough, but good hours to spend my life with
Looking forward to going through this today and tomorrow, leaving this comment preemptively because a nearly 4 hour video on one of my favorite games already deserves an algorithm boost
thank you, enjoy!
The chickorita hate :( the liddul potato man is trying him best
@@serotonin7365 it's not chiko's fault that every gym is out to get him, jusy thr sad truth :(
I was getting some stuff out of my garage, and noticed a game boy color laying in a box, so I took it out and found that it had Pokémon crystal in it. I was like “dear god” it was like finding the ark of the covenant, so I fixed the save battery and slapped it into my gameboy advance that I played sliver on 20 years before, and am have a absolute blast.
have fun :)
Good job
i took the thing you said on timestamps perhaps a bit too far
Crystal my favorite pokemon game of all time
I never realized that psychic's weaknesses are common fears. That's pretty interesting.
Ledian’s “alien” aspects come from it being based on kamen rider/super sentai/power rangers aesthetics Edit: okay its weird you knew the tsuchinoko for dunsparce but not the above; the later seems a lot more esoteric
I had a suspicion it was, but my Kamen lore might be missing a step in that it's hard to understand why it comes from Ledyba. Nice insight though.
Honestly not sure here either. Most likely a cultural aspect I’m missing but I think the above average fighting types (which is a low key stand in for justice) moves as the generations goes on reinforces the idea.
@@obviousalias132 A lot of Kamens are based on bugs, but to my recollection none specifically Ladybugs. Perhaps a designed backwards situation where a Kamen rider Bug Pokemon needed a pre-evo and the easiest solution was just... a bug
@@ntmaproductions I feel maybe something to do with the spots/stars but thats just speculation on my part. Since we are talking name origins and I just got to the part Mareep is Philip K Dick (Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep/Bladerunner) and also an anagram of ampere (and probably smushing Mary and Bo Peep together). I’ve always been impressed with how layered Pokémon designs especially having to translate so many so the puns work in other languages.
@@obviousalias132 iirc, an earlier name for Mareep also incorperated Dolly, the first cloned sheep- but it was deemed too controversial. Bur yeah, lots of really clever names
Bite/Crunch best dark move lmao
This was great
I can only imagine how much time and effort you put into this video. Thanks for making this!
a lot 😅 and this is only half, HGSS part is out too. we'll see about a return to Pokemon soon, this blowing up is a good excuse
Earned a sub from me. Great work
I remember my first time beating the battle tower level 70. Shuckle Tyranitar and Snorlax. I ended up using a Blissey over Tyranitar later in 80 90 and 100. I settled on a toxic/sandstorm stall strategy with mainly Shuckle. Using Snorlax and Blissey just as secondary strategies. Rest bodyslam earthquake sleep talk Snorlax. And icebeam thunderbolt psychic and softboiled on Blissey. I loved the challenge at first. I was the only one in my friend group and school that actually managed to beat any stage there. Then, as I cleared it more and more, I was quickly disappointed that there weren't better rewards. I already maxed out vitamins on my mons before even my first victory. Being rewarded with them at every level and that being the only reward was a huge letdown.
Lmao yeah, you need pretty well maxed stuff to egen attempt it so getting vitamins is a weak reward. Later battle towers/facilities/etc definitely make it more entiving via itneresting and unique battle items
I love Gen 2, it’s just so… I have no clue it was like the Gen 5 of pre Gen 5 in how it looks, the Semi-dynamic sprites are cool, the gameplay is fun if repetitive, and I can honestly blow through one of these games in like a week if I’m busy so they’re like popcorn gaming for me Edit: I’d just like to respectfully mention you seem to miss some things, like tackle not having 50 power until Gen 5 or shadow ball being physical and thusly amazing on the Ratata line, which is just a minor thing I don’t hate the vid, I absolutely love it
I'm sure there's plenty I missed because I was all over the place lmao. I did mention in the mechanics section that all Ghost moves are physical, but I don't think I specifically applied it to Shadow Ball's insane coverage 😅
@@ntmaproductions it only does because with it Ratata can have better coverage in the case of rock types and other types that normal can’t really steamroll for one reason for another, so it matters at least to me, if you think I’m overdoing it tho that’s fair I’m a no-life teen so what do know lmao 😂 Edit: also the heart disappeared when I edited the comment and I 🥲
@@gabrieldevoogel6225 lmao you right, shadow ball is nasty on all the normals that get it.
@@ntmaproductions yeah, but if you’d like my discord or some shit so I can give you my two cents since most the games I own are pre split I can help you because I’ve honestly grown to understand it so very well it’s low key unhealthy lol
@@gabrieldevoogel6225 if you'd like sure
Awesome content! Red/Blue/Yellow was great introduction to Pokemon games, but Silver/Gold/Crystal laid the foundation of what Pokemon games are today.
your effort is respected
GSC were definitely peak handheld games on the GameBoy Color. If pokemon had ended there it would of been fine. Thankfully pokemon continued and we got so many ither great games. So many things about this game just hasnt been replicated before. The region of johto is beautiful, timed events are interesting, and day/night cycle makes the world more immersive. Johto is a region where yes you can get to the elite 4 in under 40 hours. But it really is a reigon/game where you spend time backtracking and exploring
Can you do a history of the pokemon games you've done retrospectives on? Your content is awesome and love listening you this stuff.
maybe someday oras soon 😅😅
I'm sure this has been pointed out, but I'm pretty sure that if you KO any of the legendary beasts, they will respawn once you defeat the E4 again. Fantastic video essay regardless!
Legendaries and other fixed spawns (ie. Sudowoodo, Snorlax) didn't start respawning until gen 4. Sadly it's a little easy to get locked out in this game 😅. This also means in Emerald you can get softlocked from getting the Gen 2 starters as it requires catching the whole Hornn dex. I apprrciate the compliment though!
@@ntmaproductions Oh dang. It's been a hit minute since I played gen 2, I coulda sworn this was the case. I stand corrected! But honestly, great content. I've been on a gen 2 hyper fixation lately and your videos have helped scratch my itch lol
@@SacredCharizard glad to help!
I think one of the potential upsides of the weird level curve is that you can switch over to newer, low level pokemon.
this video has been in my watch later for a few days now, but i had to put off watching it until today bc being a college student is fucking hard. that aside, great video. one thing i love about pokémon content on youtube is just how widely vast the range of things that people want to talk about and it’s ripe for deep dives like these. thanks for the work you put into this video and can’t wait to see more from you!
I know how college be, no worries my man. Thanks for the comment, I'm glad you enjoyed
btw if you want more the pinned comment links to the HGSS portion of the video ;)
While I love the Pokemon games, I mean, I grew up with them. I was born the same year the Game Boy came out, and I had one pretty much since 1990. I had all 3 versions of Gen 1 and 2. Played all 6 games to the end. Traded with friends, battled with friends, brought the games to school. It was a ton of fun.... BUT......It's so hard to go back to them nowadays. They're not bad games, and I'm not saying I'm a big fan of the super easy hand-holding route the new games are going. But it's hard to go back to the bare minimum of a Pokemon game now. If I ever want to play Gen 1 and 2, I have to play rom hacks, or at least play HG/SS on DS. A few hours ago, I started up the rom hack "Crystal Clear", which is pretty neat. Lets you make your own character, lets you pick which region (Johto or Kanto) to start in, and even lets you pick which town you start in. The whole game is also opened up to make it more of an open world, letting you do the gyms in any order you want (the gym levels scale with how many badges you have). It lets you re-battle gyms at higher difficulties if you want, there's a whole new Elite 4 (as well as letting you battle the original E4). There's new moves, the Pokedex gives you a TON of extra information, there's a thing in-game to tell you where all the move tutors and HMs are, there's an npc to trade-back Pokemon to get the trade evolutions without actually trading. Hell, even minor things like being able to change the music for battles and stuff. Some Quality of Life stuff too like disabling Nurse Joy Pokemon Center dialogue to make healing quicker, or skipping the intro animation for wild battles. It also adds in the missing Kanto areas. Polished Crystal is another one I like a lot. It takes Crystal, but tries to modernize it. You can get all 251 Pokemon without trading, there's a fake Wonder Trade system, all the extra decorations from HG/SS to make the game look nicer, also adds the missing Kanto areas, you get EXP when catching Pokemon, a lot of moves and stats have been updated to match later generation games. Both are great ways to play through Gen 2. I think I prefer Polished Crystal if I want something that matches Gen 2 a bit more. But Crystal Clear is a lot of fun because of how open it is and the ability to start wherever you want. Makes it more interesting since you're not just playing through the same areas in the same order that you always have. I haven't found a hack that quite matches those for Gen 1, but there's still some good ones out there. Red ++ is probably the best. There's also ones that turn them into GBC games, with full color. And ones that add in stuff from the leaked Spaceworld Gold/Silver betas. There's also completely new games like Pokemon Brown, and Prism.
Crystal Clear is interesting. I've messed with it a bit and the QoL stuff is extremely nice, although tbh i find that making it a boss rush type game where you can do anything means the world is kinda glossed over whic hurts the atmosphere I love so much in GSC, although it's going for something completely different. Prism is one I can get behind, really a technical marvel in a lot of ways
@Almighty Coon I'm not gonna argue, but can I ask WHY you dislike Crystal Clear? And yeah, Brown and Prism aren't anything amazing, but they're still more Pokemon to play, and I think that was the point. To make a "new" Pokemon game for those that want more Game Boy Pokemon without re-playing the same games for the hundredth time. Personally, I highly enjoyed Crystal Clear. But that's because I've played GSC so many times already, that it was nice to play in the same world, but have the freedom to go where I want. Not being held by the hand and led through the same places in the same order I've already done dozens of times before. It's nothing special either, just a different way to play Gen 2 for those of us that don't wanna play through the same exact thing again, but still want Gen 2. As for playing past gen 2, I dunno. I personally haven't really played Gen 6 and later. But I've enjoyed Gen 1-5 just fine. Gen 4 being my favorite. I'm definitely not a fan of the handholding they do in the newer games though.
Thats ok, but remember that a mod doesnt represent the original experience.
Awesome!
I cant remember if it was my 9th or 10th birthday but I got Gold and Crystal. My mom told me she was told she was the first to buy Crystal that day. I still remember my first initial shock of the day and night cycle, and how interacting with pokemon changed with it.
I was 6 when I got crystal for a birthday
How do you send items from RBY to GSC through time machine?
you don't im a dumb liar :(
@@ntmaproductions hey bro worries! Solid videos tho!
@@TheXeroLink thank you!
@@ntmaproductionsa bit late, but I just assumed you meant to trade down the pokemon, evolve it in gen 1 using the stone and then trade back up. Which is still a hassle
1:11:29 It doesn't take Kurt 24 real life hours to turn apricorns to balls. That's only for the GS ball event. With apricorns, you can walk out of his house, then back in immediately, and it'll be done. Though, some of the balls are bugged, so it's better to buy balls from the marts
Well, that maybe would've made me engage with it more. Probably not because half the balls don't work but eh
Nice video. Ever think of doing the OG red and blue?
it's in production :)
It's amazing that you took 3 hrs to review everything in a pokemon Gen 2 game, I played crystal version n I gotta sunflora from the park thing n I caught a skrboro n aced the game
sunflora is pretty cool. i'nca victreebel guy myself
HM01 Cut should’ve been a Steel-type Rock Smash …at least it would’ve had *some* utility or excuse to consider it.
Yeah HMs definitely needed mroe variety. Cut could've fit bug, grass, dunno, it's a weird balance because Water gets such a good moce out of HMs so early on that water is, in most games, the strongest starter by the nature of having surf/waterfall available
I was always more annoyed by HM 05 Flash, all it does is lower accuracy, the move, itself, isn't 100% accurate, and you're stuck putting over a better support move like Thunder Wave, Reflect, or Stun Spore. It's why I created a designated land-slave (Cut, Dig [no more wasting money on Escape Ropes], Rock Smash, Strength; Sandshrew and Teddiursa work here), and water-slave (Flash, Surf, Whirlpool, Waterfall; Lanturn is practically made for this role) in Gen 2.
@@Empr4evr I prefer not to make HM slves if I don't have to. In gen 3 where there's 3 water moves? I'll makr a dedicated diver. Beyind that? I'd rather just tolerate it. If you get 2 Flashed in your opponent is pretty screwed
@@ntmaproductions yea I agree, Flash gets some hate, but I've noticed it's pretty good in Gen 2. I remember Flash in gen 2 being more effective in GSC then RBY. I think HM01 Cut should have gotten a power bump in gen 2.
I was about 9 or 10 when soul silver came out and id never had anything other than a 64 with mario kart. So my first pokemon game was beyond amazing i spent ungodly hours playing it. Then i got ruby and overplayed that and finally got emerald which i emulate on my phone at least 3 times a year with full play throughs😂
"i may have gone too far in a few places" -George lucas
I actualyl quoted that in the RBY video lol
@@ntmaproductionsi just saw it in the description and had to quote it
man ur channel is looking great, movies and pokemon thats what i like lol
@@Killer... appreciate it killa
Do you get evolution stones from phone calls in silver? I’ve been trying a while :(
lol rip. if you have rby you can time machine a pokemon back, buy a stone at the department store, evo it, and send it back. no gen 2 pokemon evo by stone kmao
@@ntmaproductions P-poliwhirl… Weepenbell.. FUUUUUUUUUUUU-(we’ll be right back)
@@ntmaproductions in all seriousness I’m so livid I have to wait for route 25 and bills grandfather for this BS, where’s staryu? I know where Oddish is and those are what he wants to see for water and leaf stones, at least my Shiny espeon is making me feel better
@@gabrieldevoogel6225 fish off the boating dock in olivine (you have to go through the level transition to the specific dock map)
@@ntmaproductions is that good or super rod? I have good but I’ll detour for super right after I beat the league, I made a lot of progress yesterday so I’m already in Indigo but I’m seething so hard that Poli’s ice punch isn’t strong enough yet
X and Y kinda did this but I think it’d be rly cool for once to switch up the starter type triangle and do Fighting-Psychic-Dark . They won’t bc it’s a kids game first and grass water fire is just simple to understand but I just think it would be a cool wrench in the formula
The FPD triangle also has the issue where Psychic can't hit Dark, which makes it kinda awkward to deal with if your rival has it and requires the Psychic Starter to be like, half Fairy or something to compensate
True I forgot it was immune and not resistant.. but then that would just be the “hard” starter that teaches you not to rely solely on STAB moves
@@TheDrunkLawyer i would moreso like to see a double triangle. In XY the starters just got even better against the one they already beat. Reversing the secondary triangle wpuld even them out in the late game and could lead to some fun stuff
Got damn!!!
I am certain that Crobat in Silver's team was purposeful. No evidence to back this certainty but it just makes way too much sense.
It's hard to say since he had it even when Crobat had a different evo method in the Soaceworld Protos, but I like to imagine that it's either intentional or a happy coincidence, given his arc.