JCC Toughled Pro - FINALLY, an LED Batten for British Electrical Installations!
The LED Batten or vapour-proof light fitting is the workhorse of industrial lighting. Used everywhere from factories to car parks. JCC Lighting has designed this new ToughLED Pro to meet the exact requirements of British Electrical installations.
Thinking about everything from BESA box mountings to adjustable cable terminations and more, this new version is super easy to install.
This video explores the key features set to make the JCC ToughLED Pro an installer's favourite.
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00:00 The challenges of lighting installations
01:19 Fits BESA or conduit boxes
02:03 Fixing points
02:30 ToughLED versus the New ToughLED Pro
05:18 BESA box - not all battens are equal
05:46 Fitting the new ToughLED Pro fitting
07:48 Fixing methods
09:14 IP rating
10:23 Adjustable wiring
11:09 Unique cover clip design
11:38 Fast emergency and microwave conversion
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Using penny washers on the mounting screws helps reduce chance of the fitting falling down if knocked.
It looked like they did use some small M4 washers, but not penny washers... Need to start buying M4 washers, I only ever seem to have M6 and M10!
manufacturer could have supplied load spreading plates for the inside.
@@mfx1 Oh they would not do that. Damaged replacement is the most common reason for changing the fitting. No manufacturer wants their unit to be too strong - then it doesn't break therefore you don't buy another.
It's taken all these years for a company to finally realise how we always fixed fittings to conduit, not before time. A lot of the time you can't even do what you have done, because there will be a driver in the way
Excelllent product, Combined tray and lid is the most time saving part, but every other feature makes the Electrician life easy. Great to see a British product fitting our UK need.
Having the emergency lighting and sensor fitting as part of the light is a huge plus point. Thank you for the video. Keep it up guys!
What a REALLY well thought out bit of kit, thanks for that guys. We have all been there with the issues of standard IP battens that you mentioned Gaz. Sooooo frustrating. Great to see so many options on entry points as well, rather than just either end. You have showcased JCC's wares to great effect, they will be happy with that. 👏
I am not even an electrician yet I am hooked on this light fitting.
Oh Yeah. Finally, yet another LED fitting with non replaceable lamp. Lost count of how many times I have had to replace several fittings with integral LED lamps, just to match up again when just one has failed and original model no longer available. No doubt a few years down the line this will go the same way. Why does JCC not make the fitting take a replaceable LED tube, or does that upset the built in obsolescence?.
I gave up on LED ages ago. I am fed up of seeing them flickering and strobing all the time. I much prefer fluorescents with a high frequency ballast. You can replace the ballast or lamp whenever either fail.
Great work eFIXX finally Gaz and Joe are back together
Morcambe & Wise reunited
@@efixx hm, but which one's which? 🤔😂
2 ex teachers didn't know what a besa box is? i don't believe it .. nice fitting, having side entry is a massive bonus, i really like that ... nice to see the chuckle brothers doing a video together again
sign of the times... urgh...
They know what it is but didn't know what BESA stood for exactly.
Ha, I always thought it was ‘beezer’ 😂
he's a beezer geezer 🤣
As I understand it, the lights were initially designed as vapour proof (IP 65) fitting with the use of compression glands.
Looks a great product. I really like the cable entry options esp fitting the gland in various positions. I shall be getting one of these
Unless the fitting is damaged, could use a drop in replacement led tube with ballast bypass.
A fantastic product range available from your local Eyre & Elliston branch.
We have started using Thorn ForceLED fittings they have the conduit fixings on the back and being aluminium backed wont break if knocked, plus they can also be glanded from side along with being suspended and are also compact but give out great light output 👍
Good to know one of my developments pleases you. It was designed to replace a twin 58W T8. I was responsible for the optics
I absolutely love that and will definitely seek it out for installation😎👍🏻
Love the cable clips had nightmares with the fitting gear tray trapping cables when your having a wresting match getting the fitting back.
We share your pain!
My light boxes tube light have left and right a power line go in, only the older models (~10 years) have had extra fixing points for hung from the roof or extra build-in holes at this side. We have products to make holes if I need that too. But - we know on the continent this round boxes too - from the 60's and at ships. We use round metal from them to the side entree at the small sides with direct copplers with metal pipes. Do you can see it at old german trains too - possible the UK military catch some in 2nd WW. Old storeroom have had this too. Newer places needs only plain cable (it is copper in plastic too.) or in plastic pipes. Extra only three cable (L1/N/GrGe) in pipes are dead here and use only in Boxes and CU's. Raw metal pipes are only in commercial kitchens (better for cleaning) or at dirty working places where it save the cable. Very good that the UK companies now produce electric products inside UK and commonwealth with UK-regularies. So have the people new working places to make better money and nobody should import it from Asia. Possible they do it with the car and lorry companies too.
Looks like a good bit of kit 👍I like it
Some really good ideas from jcc.
So you have to drill an extra hole just for it to fit to the 60 cm measurement? I was wondering why you just don't remove the metal conduit all together for this instance? Why not install the fixture to the ceiling with the provided brackets and terminate the metal conduit at the front or back of tha fixture , pull the cable trough the cable inserts and you will end up with a better looking installation?
Good fitting with plenty of installation options
Nice! Would want that light-fitting to be sold here in Austria
Most industrial installations either mount fitting directly to metal trunking or use stuffing glands and flex from conduit and hang on chain.
Well it looks good .
I will give this some consideration if the opportunity arises JCC seem to really take the feedback and improve their fittings for a contractor is the old style been phased out?
FYI Neil Buchanan is now in a heavy metal band. Top bloke if you ask me!
How do you relamp when it dies or is it a landfill job?
Very tidy! Nice to see. Hopefully they have sorted out there reliability 😂
🤣Gaz nearly went for the cupcake in stead of the phone. 😂
that's nice. I wish our manufacturers in the states were that responsive.
Would you recommend any other brand ahead of this JCC one, or is the best you know of? Thanks
Besa lid, spout stuffing gland. Sorted.
Nice!
love seeing stucchi connections
Multi story car parks (Tesco Stephens) in Hull, could have benefited from this lol... about 1000 batten lamps replacement ah well...always bugged me driving in there 😂😂
What is wrong with placing the box next to the fixture and running the cabling from the box into the fixture? Most of them already have cutouts or inputs for cabling, just a matter of tapping them out with a screwdriver. Plus, you would be able to mount your fixture closer to the ceiling, creating literaly more headroom.
Hi I am trying to get my head round a problem. I have an led bar light that I am using on an aquarium it's rated at 860 watts????. I am also using an ad to dc transformer that is rated at 1.2 kW on the output side. When I attach my watt plug to this unit it only shows me 80 watts approx on the meter, on the mains side. Am I correct in thinking that the unit at 860 watts is incorrect or is there some difference between wattage at 12 volts wattage and wattage at 240 v. I hope you can understand my meaning here does the wattage decrease at 240 volts. The reason is I want to add another 860w unit but if they are in fact 860w it will overload my transformer. Although it would take a hell of an led light to actually give 864w. Regards Martin steele
Where it was possible we put the fitting beside the conduit and use a plug in rose .obviously it depends on the location.
Have you ever looked at the Thorn ForceLED fitting
My issue is the push in connectors , im really struggling to find a fitting that will take loop in loop out wiring
Because the back is thin and happily sits on half box and the screw holes are @45 degree of the conduit direction, did around 80 of them sitting on half the box with one of the box screw holes in the middle of the fitting and the other screw hole I’ve used to fit half lid.. sturdy, not wonky and with one lid I covered 2 half boxes. yeehaaw!
This part as emercency light or as radio controlled light is a good point. But - why do you never discuss the price of the product how you show here? What costs it if I buy it outside the UK e.g. Isle of Man or in Asia? Have this product all certifications? Why is this product not in metal and with a metal body around the "glass part"? I know that UK electrician hat plastic things - too dangerous at hot places. Just some questions...
I'm more interested in how you bent the lovely swan neck conduit lights behind you? Where's the video on that? If there ain't one, make one.
That will be this one 👉m.kzhead.info/sun/e5qanNGojGSql3k/bejne.html
An enthusiastic presentation and very entertaining but some of the comments left by other viewers below have led me to think that they have misunderstood your video and believe these to be 'Made in Britain' products. I can see that the drivers, both standard and emergency have been manufactured in China and the LED's will most certainly have been made in China or Taiwan. This is because there are few other countries that have the facilities to make the diodes. JCC are based on the South Coast and at best, they are just an 'assembler', not an actual manufacturer. They may have designed the features on the luminaires body and then have them made to their specification for them in China, but as far as I'm aware, JCC don't have injection moulding machines at their site Bognor Regis. At best I would rate this fitting as 2/10.
5:30 Is that adaptor not intended to be screwed to the ceiling for surface mounting, not a "BESA" box?
Says on the packing BESA box compatible.
Miss the old fluorescent ones
Me 2
600mm centres? Where I work they are 24" and some of the conduit is still the old imperial (3/4" generally). 😳
About time, had to do about 30 of these in an under office caroark, the firm i wkrked for went for the cheapest obviously and like ykurs they were to thin, flimsy and looked absolutely crap compared to the quality but obsolete Thorn ones fron the days of old. I wonder why it takes so long.
But are they any good, as in will they last longer than 6 months
Can't believe you didn't know they are besa boxes 😁
I'm sure they meant that they didn't know that BESA stands for "British Electrical Standard Accessory"
Can't say I've seen many non corrosive fittings mounted on to conduit. I'd replace old fittings with pop-packs unless there was a need for IP ratings.
Fitted loads of them in my time Most boiler room and plant rooms always used them instead of metal fittings Used a screwed dome life and 20 mum bush
BUT! it is JCC! How long will it last?? In my experience of their products, not very long.
I do like to use stainless m4 cap screws on galv conduit boxes
You shouldn’t mix galvanised zinc and stainless steel. The metals are dissimilar which causes corrosion. Over a few years the zinc will rust.
@@efixx work better than the brass :)
wonderful fitting bad design. why do companies still manufacture light fittings with integrated led strips instead of led tube.easier maintenance and cheaper. in a few years when you need to replace the inners of the fitting the company does not exist or make that spesific model anymore. But that is personal preference. :-) love your channel guys.
I know what you mean. I change and change and change build-in LED lights ... 😩😭🤬 Old pipe tubes open, put out, put in, close. Finish with this old style light ... 😉🥰😁
Exactly what I have been saying.
As much as I don’t like robus, their vapor proof have been able to do this for years
Buy 2x20mm Galv threaded dome lids & 2x male bushes... No need to drill 4x 4mm holes, 2x 20mm holes instead? Doesn't matter if boxes aren't exactly 600mm apart either?
Dome lids are handy, but not quite as flush and they end up a little less solid too. Pros and cons with everything... Would be nice if M20 penny washers were readily available too to add extra support around the bush.
You guys need to switch this metal JBs and pipes for PVC, there is only problem with that here in Europe, cores very often are damaged, and on the top of it, by drilling you loosing watertightness, thats why there is clip solution.
Also...a lot of the ones where you have to fit a clip on the ceiling first say NOT to drill the body for fixings!
These fittings have those types of clips as well… we did mention this in the video 👍🏻
Why make up those lids yourself when you can just use a dome/spout lid with a bush or nipple and lock nut from the other side? The JCC one does look a lot better though.
You could have used dome lids on the best box's instead of drilling box lids
Thurlux have been making them for years
Calm down with the Smug Mode, Kryten!
Ha ha! Great spot! 😃 Joe
What’s the point in timing it when you worked quicker on purpose for the JCC one…
They are both JCC fitting
You end up fitting box lids and drilling a hole!
3:58
Anybody seen an indoor supermarket car park fitted with these LED lights and when they go bad after about a year they start flashing and partly burning out.
If you are seeing problems after a year - I’d be phone the manufacturers
3:42 😂
Didnt complete the first on as its ip rating wasnt maintained as he left the gromett out the end 🤣
🫣
could just simply convert the magnetic ballast light to a led tube thats a easy way out of course you could drill the bottom of the fitting to line up with the existing screws that small hole be realistic who is gonna put there fingers in it things like that would not bother me one bit just that the fitting works well and its compliant and safe i wouldnt go out of my way to put something up there my finger would not get through the hole whats the real problem like serously
Where's the big bearded electrician, Rick?
Having a rest
@@efixx You ought to make him your main presenter, he's very telegenic.
Please note nobody has yet found a way of recycling LED’s commercially that I am aware of.
www.recolight.co.uk/weee-info/how-we-recycle/
Domed box lids anyone ??? Simple solution to the narrow fittings. Sadly I am not a fan of LED lights at all . Fitted loads and within 2 years have failed . Some you can replace the driver others you have to replace the whole thing. I went back to metal halide for floods as they are serviceable. I have removed 2D and fluorescent fittings that were 20 years old and still working, some were on 24/7 and crumbled internally because of the heat . You can't complain if they last 20 years though .
You’ll struggle to get hold of non LED fixtures now.
Very good BUT no damm price’s.
Hi Fred, thanks for your comment. We sell through electrical wholesale. Please contact your local branch for pricing information.
@@jccadvancedlighting ok, will do thank you.
“Smug mode” 🤣
😂😂
Cant beat the old fluorescent, steel framed fixtures. Not this plastic fixture rubbish with irreplaceables LED's. A fluorescent light also spreads more evenly and looks nicer than harsh directional LED's.
Why don't these companies make replaceable led array's? Things are many to be easily repaired now to save the planet
I'm sure i could design the perfect fitting for us electrician's. Built in clips to hold the wiring so its not getting trapped under the gear tray. Try it with a ceiling that's not flat 😂
Been using quality ansell topline 6 led battens 4,5&6ft for past two years , these aren't new to the industry
They don’t match because they are not the same type of fittings, you are changing a batten fitting for a vapour proof fitting, if you get an led batten it will have the correct fixing positions and holes, this was true for fluorescent battens and vapour proofs before led’s, there is nothing new here.
C'mon - BESA box - you didn't know the acronym ?? I'm only a member of Joe Public and I knew... but then mebe I'm a bit of an anorac
That’s ok for Joe public but apparently not for Joe Robinson 😂😂😂
just bad design, the retaining clips should be fixed to the diffuser not the light
EU never took on board British requirements, thats why your bread never fits the toaster properly.
i hate Euro lighting Crap including Screw in bulbs and fittings... why we ever let them in the UK is beyond me there was nothing wrong at all with bayonet fittings 90% of the light fixtures you see in the U.K is all european crap..
Pity it’s made in China