my first impressions...i'm pissed!
Dear Makita, I'm sorry. These are my first impressions on the brand-new Milwaukee M18 Track Saw. Subscribe if you want to catch my in-depth review in a few months. Thank you to everyone who submitted the questions!
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I appreciate how thorough you are, both in covering the tool and answering people’s questions.
Great video! I don’t have a track saw yet but have been thinking about one for a while. I this sold me on the Milwaukee. Your videos are always very high quality and you deserve to be a BIG KZhead channel. Keep up the hard work, it isn’t going unnoticed!
Love the video, had a thought on the trackless cross cut section. If you’re using it as a plain Jane circular saw, just under that front handle there’s a lock switch (different from the arbor lock for blade changes) When engaged, you can make your plunge cut and it will lock itself plunged so you can put more focus on your alignment and pushing rather than on keeping the blade plunged in place. Anyways, hope that helps someone!
This saw kzhead.infoUgkx84IcU5pbZd1Qrz8u4-YRLmJax7kdRi7B comes in handy in many ways. When I had a small (dead) tree fall I started the process of disposal by using this saw and cutting off the small branches. Then slowly work on the small trunk with undercutting and letting it fall down. With many trees on acres of land paying for a tree service can be expensive. It also is nice in that it can be used in hard to get areas like along my creek. It's also safer and quieter than a chainsaw. It obviously can't cut down massive trees but it does work fine for small ones or brush. And of course since I already own a Black
Thanks a bunch for your continued work in all your videos. While there are millions of content creators, most people do not realize the back-end work before any vids are submitted for viewing. Subbed.
We greatly appreciate the mention Drew, but we'd like to clarify something referenced in this video... At first look, the Milwaukee guide rail appears to be patterned after the Festool and Makita profiles. However, closer examination shows that multiple critical dimensions are different enough on the Milwaukee guide rail to interfere with the performance expected from TSO accessories. As a result, our Guide Rail Squares and Parallel Guide System are currently not compatible with the Milwaukee guide rail. We are working towards a solution, so please stay tuned for more news on this issue.
1st off, props for listening to the consumer with a critical ear. 2nd, cnc is not hard. Just release a secondary peripheral or create an adjustable component for the rail mechanism.
@@mouthfulacoque3580 "cnc is not hard" my friend, I don't think you have a clear understanding of product design, machining, manufacturing at scale. Bit more a play than just 'tweak the gcode' here.
@michaelbuddy with all due respect, a financial barrier to entry does not make something difficult. If you're lazy, you plug away at failed designs. If you're running a financially lucrative business, you hire someone like me to measure, execute, and implement. Its math, not magic.
Thank you TSO
First of all been building since 1990's and even before with my dad. We tried many brands my dad was all zbot the Makita. And then came Dewalt but some guys stole some of my drills. So had to stop.in yo joke depot and saw a sale for a returned tool. So I bought it. It was a Milwaukee impact and it shocked me. After I got paid I.bought the big Fuel hammer drill Milwaukee. And soon I had the saw and the saws all. Now I gave my Dewalt to a friend and he now has all Milwaukee tools. So much of special tools as well it's like no other brands. The other day I was on a job site and a plumbing guy was near done but would needed a fresh battery for 4 or 6 more connections. So I handed him my battery. And we was done fast so we got lunch. It's nice when you can help out and everyone goes home early. After my move I will be buying a few more Milwaukee tools. As I will have only 3 tools not made by Milwaukee. The biggest hand held corded Makita 12 Inc saw and its too much power I keep it for 6x6 cuts. A press drill and an old Delta saw. Oh and I forgot a never used Delta plunge cut.
A year later, no in depth video....
Thank you for your commitment and time! I found your honesty amazing! Plz keep doing what your doing it will come back 10 fold! It’s funny how we have our favs of different manufacturers. Keep Er moving! Love the content!
That was one of the most in depth "First Impression" reviews I've ever seen. Nice job.
Great job for 1st impressions. You covered all the big questions! 😁 As to length, 33 minutes is long, BUT you kept my interest. I really appreciate good comparison videos and yours are very informative! Keep it up!
this is so awesome, all my cordless tools are now Milwaukee, and currently in the market for a track saw vs. a new table saw. You made my mind up thank you. looking forward for the next long term review of this
Love these type of educational vids, bit eye opening if you of all people are going to probably switch to it over the Makita. Look forward to seeing the full in-depth video as I'm at the stage where I want to start upgrading tools and I definitely think a good track saw will be worth it's weight in gold for what I do. Keep it up mate!
Thanks for the great review. Being on the Milwaukee M18 platform, its a no brainer. Being that there are other great track saws out there, I'm glad to hear that Milwaukee did not dissapoint. Its nice to know that being in Makita battery line , Festool or Milwaukee, you can have first class saws in any of those lines to match your battery line up. Thanks again for the review and your obvious approval. Keep us posted.
Yes, yes and yes. But... For anyone with a large collection of DeWalt batteries, there's no track saw that's any good that takes any of those. 🤣🤣
Thank you for your time and effort. I understand your feelings on the potential change. I bought my Festool TS55 more than 15 years ago and I haven't looked back. It still serves me well today. I like the look of all the new ones and I would consider the Makita corded as my backup saw due to price. I have the 1200mm, 2400mmtracks and a 500mm 700mm pair I made from a 1200mm for Kitchen fitting and tight spots. I would definitely get the 3000mm for handlig sheet materials. I'm looking forward to the full review coming up.
I appreciate your first impressions! I am a Milwaukee guy and have been contemplating getting a track saw to add to my arsenal. I too look forward to the in-depth review. Cheers!
I bought the cordless Makita and I absolutely love it. I’m always amazed at how good it is. It’s so accurate and consistent. I don’t use a table saw.
Great Review!!! Very well done. I’m not a tool snob, and an intermediate woodworker. So, Makita cordless is what I’m picking up Tuesday. Thanks for the content.
Cordless brushless Makita is hot garbage
Thank you so much for the most extensive, in-depth “first impressions” video i have ever seen, and what looks like many others feeling the same. This is my first time seeing your channel and watching a video and you definitely hooked me. I’m yours! Aloha
Excellent first impression video. This is very timely for me as I am looking for a cordless track saw. These new and/or improved features make it impossible for me to overlook the appeal of Milwaukee. I just might wait to pull the plug until you release your second comprehensive comparison cordless track saw video. Thank you very much for doing these videos.
I liked, subscribed, and saying thank you! I'm newer to woodworking and appreciate the in depth explanation and comparisons! You're doing a great job. God bless!
Thank you very much! We need more woodworkers like you Beth!
Thank you for being so in depth, your one of the few channels that thoroughly explains what/why/how. We just bought a house so I'm financially not in the position to even justify the WEN lol, I have a homemade track/jig. But watching this reminded me of when I first started woodworking. I was watching a channel that will remain nameless, but he built a router sled to flatten a coffee table top. So I'm like what a great idea, so I built one to flatten the not to be named project he built that I copied. Thing is, me being a dummy newbie, I only made sure I was building on a flat surface as he said. Lol he didn't say anything about the sled being completely level. So mine wasn't level, not his fault it was ruined I'm the dummy that didn't shim it, but like I said I was an idiot newbie and didn't know any better. Point to this long winded comment is thank you for being so in depth, remember you may have viewers or new clicks watching saying "wtf is a riving knife" or whatever, you get the point. So yeah man great video keep them coming!
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Thanks for the great review, this was my first time watching one of your videos. I already own the Milwaukee track saw and just bought your 3d printed starter kit. Your video made me feel even better than I already did about purchasing the saw. I liked and followed and can't wait to deep dive into your other content. Keep up the great work and thank you.
I appreciate all your content and suggestions. GREAT review for an unboxing, looking forward to a full review after you have the opportunity to put it through the paces.
We’re going to torture it
I'm a General Contractor and don't have a "daily need" for a track saw, so when I first needed one a few years ago, I bought the Grizzly (as the only one available at that time was the festool which I couldn't justify that expense). In all honesty, it works fine for me and my needs. Your point is valid about the accessories as I've been trying to find a "rail square guide" for my track & can't find one for the grizzly. That being said, after a few years, I've found more uses for my saw than I thought I would. I have been slowly replacing all my other cordless tools with Milwaukee & love the quality they produce. When the Grizzly finally wears out, I will definitely look at this saw.
No one in the construction industry has a daily need for a tracksaw, much less a general contractor. You need a computer, a phone, a table to set plans on, and some file boxes to keep up with RFIs, ASIs, RFPs, project manuals, insurance certificates, and OSHA forms. The work, as we all know, is performed by Mexicans and other "amigos" with a few white graders, plumbers and electricians thrown in. The cabinet contractor doesn't even need a tracksaw in his shop, and there's absolutely no need for one on any commercial or residential job site.
Should work well for quick siding repairs, with a diff. blade for sure...Oh by the way, I have an old corded Makita framing saw(81/4) bought it back in the mid 80's, I use it on average 3 days a week(going over the last 37 years) and still works well....I love my corded Makita saws. Thanks for the vid !
I used a Makita hypoid saw for almost 20 years and then the switch went bad. Unfortunately, the switch was obsolete so I ended up buying another one. I paid $130 for the first one and $140 for the new one last year but I see they've gone up $30 since last year. I guess my timing was perfect. I abused that first saw. I used metal cutting abrasive blades to cut up an old gas tank for a welding project and got that saw so hot I couldn't hold it. Took a lickin' and kept on tickin'
What blade would you put on this track saw?
I love makita as well but I also have Milwaukee tools. Thanks for all you do to help other builders like myself. Keep up the good work.
I am literally at the point of buying a track saw, this is tremendously helpful, if I can wait for the second video, I will but I may go ahead and get this one since I have a stable of Milwaukee 18v tools already and while being cost conscious is top of mind always, versatility, portability and that super odd, no power situation that could be lurking in a future treehouse build. I will check out your online store, thanks for the initial impression video! Subscribed*
My favorite woodworking channel now. Thanks man. Also best customer service as well and dust covers are top notch. New Patreon here I come! Looks like a sweet saw. Makes me watch to get rid of my wen lol
Thank you
Love the longer format deep-dives. I"m a Makita Man myself (though not blinded to other tools when they're superior). I've found that after using cordless tools, I hate going back to the corded versions. A cord is just such a hassle, especially in a small shop with things the cord can snag on. Two small corrections: the Makita 36V track saw DOES indeed have an electric brake, and has kick-back detection which cuts the power if the blade gets pinched. I'd like to see a direct "head to head" performance comparison between the cordless Makita and Milwaukee doing the same cuts in Hard Maple and then Hickory as a torture test. I'd love to see the accuracy at various angles, dust extraction, power, and battery longevity.
Thank you! Wasn't sure how people would like a 30+ min video. You're right, the cordless ones have the brake (I know the 40v does for sure). My corded doesnt - thats what I was thinking of in the moment. Didn't know the 36 had kickback detection! good test criteria. I'll do it.
@@wittworks There’s a speech, the speech to inform. Following that format you’ll be able to really give us a thorough understanding of the saw. 1/2 hour? Yes I’d guess that is too long. Give the format a try. Get some note cards. Practice in front of a mirror. You understand the subject. You’ll have fun knowing you have time, you haven’t repeated yourself. I’ll bet you’ll be very successful. I’m not going to labor the point - Set yourself apart with clear concise delivery, format. And by the way I surely would not be interested if you hadn’t gotten me interested.👍👍
@@johnrice6793 What? @Wittworks could give lessons on informative structure and delivery. P.S. (You meant "belabor the point", not "labor the point".)
@@DHClapp Here we go - Never offer a suggestion to improve the video.
I’d love to see your content. Please send a link.
Thanks for the honest overview. Looking forward to the next one.
I feel lucky to have started with the Milwaukee Fuel tools. One reason I got the circular saw was that the blade stopped immediately. Since I have the batteries and charger I might as well get the track saw too. My collection even includes the 40 lb. Portable back pack vacuum. Helps me work out as I do not have a dust collection system yet nor a gym membership. Thanks for this video. I’m on the verge of getting a table saw, still building my house after 20n years traveling a lot and getting down to the cabinets and flooring. I understood so much of what you were saying. Very helpful!
The makita corded seems like a great deal because if you’re taking the time to use a track saw you’re probably at a cut station and plan on cutting multiple cuts. So if you’re gonna take the time to get a super straight cut, especially on multiple cuts you might as well get an extension cord out and not worry about the power or the extra $400 to get a battery instead of a cord. It would be nice if battery saws had an adapter to make it corded if wanted/needed similar to Dewalt 12” 120v flexvolt miter saw. I wish Dewalt, makita, Milwaukee and other brands made an adapter for all cordless tools for those times when you don’t necessarily care about cordless or you run out of battery and need the cord.
Hikoki/Metabo HPT make just that for their 36v tools range. I've got it for the Metabo HPT table saw and its great. Fits into the battery slot and attaches to a transformer. Everyone else should be selling it!
I have both the the corded Makita (which I love), but recently bought this Milwaukee. The reason I was so interested in the cordless was simply the fact that the cord on the Makita kept getting hung up on the track. So far I'm very impressed with the Milwaukee.
Anyway to put a plastic cap on the end of the track?
Get yourself a spring cord holder. Clips to your bench and keeps the cord up and out of the way. Consider an inline cord connector (Speakon) with a flexible rubber cord to replace the stiff stuff always inflicted on power tools.
@@ozerserif1608 someone would be selling 3D printed ones by now most likely
Toss the cord and hose on the work piece and grab cord in hand with the handle. Facing the cord end up. This has fixed all of that for me. Nobody makes a good replacement for my TS-75, they're all playing with little TS-55. Maybe one day? Also where's the rotex replacements? Rotex has been a game changer for me. It's got enough power to efficiently sand concrete patch if desired! Pretty sure you could toss on a diamond grit pad and polish stone too! Also I just heard the domino joiner might not have a pattent here in the states... Why oh why isn't everyone making a cheaper domino-XL? (The xl is the only one I would get as it allows for mechanical joinery for say a bedframe that can come apart)
Like you, I bought the corded Makita many years ago when there weren't so many choices and everything was corded. I believe I paid just south of$400. I'm still happy with it. I do appreciate that Milwaukee has paid attention and addressed some of the issues that have been brought to light across the tracksaw category. If I were looking for a tracksaw this Milwaukee would be included in the final group before making my final selection. Thanks for your great products and videos.
23:05 That’s one of my favorite things about Milwaukee Fuel stuff. Those brushless motors are amazing. My M18 Fuel rear handle saw cuts effortlessly and you don’t feel anything in the motor. It also has the brake on the motor. I love everything about my M18 rear handle circ saw. The depth adjustment is strong, smooth and easy to use. The marks are easy to see and very intuitive. The angle adjustment is smooth, strong and easy to use. The handles fit and hold so well. The only thing I’ve found I don’t like about is the angel adjustment hinge is at the front of the saw in line with blade and when cutting in the dark with a head lamp, it throws a shadow in the line in front of the saw. Now I cut mostly by lining the blade up with mark at the cut itself but for quick, larger tolerance cuts I use the line in front and the sight on the saw base. That’s my only complaint. Other than that, it blew me away like this track saw is doing you. I can’t believe I waited so long to get the M18 rear handle circ saw. I’m hoping the layoff at work hurry’s up and ends so I can start budgeting for this track saw. I want it so bad and it will pay for itself with production and accuracy but that’s a lot for a saw. Thanks for the video. Liked, commented and subscribed! Gonna check out your 3d printed store too.
Great video! I enjoy a tool review video every now and again and you did a great job breaking down the features, etc. (Better than others I have watched) I just bought the Makita and the Milwaukee is well outside of my price range but it looks like a great saw.
Thank you sir. Makita won’t disappoint. These are all splurges
Excellent video! Super detailed and handles all of the subjective questions. Thanks for answering my Grizzly question! I’m so glad you also answered the “Who’s it for?” Q. And, for me, it’s the corded Makita. As much as I want to love Milwaukee and be Team Red, it’s just not where I’m at in my skills or budget.
You’re welcome. Still think corded makita is best value
Mine just came. Tool on Black Friday sale with 2 blades (already have batteries and charger), 2 55" tracks, and rail connector kit. $667 at HD delivered in 3 days for free. Thanks for the review, it pushed me over to it. I won't miss the box because I have drawers in shop.
Thank you for telling us how you support your family. Going right now to your store! Great vid!
The thing about cordless tools and the company that makes them is 1) They get you in their battery ecosystem. 2) they make it easier to get "tool only" tools, as you have the batteries. The thing I see attractive about this Kit is it comes with a battery and a m12 m18 charger, which would be a good start in the Milwaukee system, if you can handle the price. I am not getting rid of the Track Saw I have. I just see some good points, other than the greatness of the saw. Thanks Drew!
This was great. I really can't think of a better way to do a video after 24 hours with a saw. Can't wait for the in depth review!
Appreciate you
@@wittworks Why are you pissed? You seem quite pleased with your saw and I feel like the title is disingenuous and clickbaity. Also, why didn't you comment on that box. It is absolutely enormous and could be kind of a dealbreaker for carpenters. I certainly wouldn't enjoy hauling this box around multiple stairs. Can't even stack it with systainers.
@@emilebeckerseb It is a little clickbaity but he's pissed that it might make him retire the makita since he likes it so much, kind of a nostalgic feeling for the makita and not wanting to stop using it. If you watched till the end you would've heard him explain that. And why would millwaukees packout systems work with systainers? Milwaukee has their own system which is expensive, but it is a much more expansive system. They just slapped the foam into one of the boxes that they already have, no point in making a custom box just for the tracksaw.
Did you watch till the end? Also. Google what clickbait is. No deception here. Legit bait. You clicked. Congratulations. I could comment on the box and the video would be 40min long
Good initial review. Looking forward to your in depth review.
Great review and first impressions! Can’t wait to see the long-term review…
I a true Milwaukee tools fan. And I actually carry my Milwaukee tools in Dewalt bags, so no one will steal them. lol
You should get the Ryobi pack out style system. You’ll not only have no theft, you’ll have Get Well Soon cards and Home Depot gift cards with notes they hope you are saved (I’m a Ryobi guy mostly, but that’s because I make shelves and tables, and that’s about it lol).
I recently came across your KZhead channel and I must say, I was impressed. As a first-time viewer, I found myself hooked on your content. Your talent with the camera is undeniable and it's clear that you have a passion for making and editing videos. I personally don't have much interest in tracksaws, but I found myself engrossed in your videos about them. Your ability to break down the pros and cons in a clear and concise manner was spot on. It was easy to understand the features and benefits of each saw, even for someone like me who doesn't have much experience with them. In addition to your technical knowledge, I appreciated your enthusiasm and passion for the subject matter. It was clear that you truly enjoy making these videos and that made them even more enjoyable to watch. Overall, I was impressed with your content and I have subscribed to your channel. I look forward to watching more of your videos in the future. Keep up the great work!
Thank you. Where do I send the check?
Thank you for answering all these great questions...much easier to make a decision based on this review
thank you for this video, I look forward to seeing your review after using it longer. I am team Milwaukee but currently own a Festool corded track saw. Am considering buying the Milwaukee, will wait for your video!.
Great review in depth honest and detailed. I’m a Milwaukee guy the only thing is the cost but I’m considering it for sure. Thanks and keep up the great work.
Thank you. If you have batteries already and don’t need a box it’s a little more doable.
I'm impressed what Milwaukee can do with a single 18v battery. They are using a 1.6mm blade to pull this off. If I were on team red and just starting off I'd probably purchase this saw. I'd love to see this compared in detail to the Makita x2 or 40v as well as the Festool TS 55 K.
It's the high output with 21700 cells so close to double the amps, up to 84A. Mafell has this for years with 8Ah for the saws, but weirdly no cordless jigsaw yet.
The blade kerf I found listed is more 2.2mm not 1.6mm
I have the Makita x2 36V. I like the variable speed. It's height adjuster also takes into account no track vs track. I have the Makita x2 36V Rear Handle 7-1/4 saw which cuts through anything I'd throw at it so it was a no brainer.
Awesome video . Keep up ! Can’t wait for your full review of the Milwaukee track saw
Useful tests and reviews. Very helpful for those of us considering track saws.
I'm a cabinet maker, and all my power tools are Makita, so I was going to go with their track saw just to stay consistent. I build decorative wood hoods over the range and sometimes the pieces are too big to crosscut on my tablesaw, unless I make a bigger sled, but mines big enough already imo. Did I hear correctly that the Makita track saw uses metric only? This could sway me to the Milwaukee, but mainly looking for something to cut various angles bevels on large pieces with a consistent finish depending on the look the customer wants. Great info!
This is the absolute most detailed FREAKIN AWESOME review of any kind I have seen anywhere on You Tube. Dude, you are amazing. Liked and sub'd.
Great vid, comprehensive & entertaining. Will be looking forward to the Update! 👍
Good review! Thinking of having one. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to the part two later this year 😊.
One of the deciding factors for me upgrading from the ryobi platform to makita was the track saw… if only i knew Milwaukee was coming out with such a nice track saw…
Silver lining you will save a boat load of money
Dang it. I was sold on going Festool or Makita based on whatever I best deal I can get. Now watching this I’m leaning in Milwaukee’s direction. It’ll be later this year, but I guess I’m saving up for Milwaukee. Keep up the great work. Gig ‘em.
Doubtful it will wind up stacking up to every spec across the board, but ridgid put out a teaser for a track saw coming out this year. You probably didn't need the water to get "muddier", but just incase you have some of their battery tools already...
Good review. I am on the M18 platform and have had my eye on this saw. Will look forward to your follow-up on this
Very helpful assessment! I am needing a track saw and this is helping me make the product choice.
I ended up going with the Makita 40v, since I was able to get a pretty good deal around Christmas time. For $600 I received the track saw, two stackable boxes, two batteries, the charger, and a 39" guide rail. I was not looking to get into the 40v platform, but I felt it was too good a deal to pass up.
Wow what a score for $600!
for all the grief we give today's toolmakers about quality slowly going down the tubes, nice to know there are still some good guys paying attention! thanks for what you do, drew
Thank you
Who gives grief about quality? On the whole, it's far higher than old days. I'm 67. Cost to average earnings, it's far cheaper. Complexity much greater because we demand it and that affects reliability and cost. And options are far wider - throwaway almost free supermarket, eg Aldi, to bomb proof Mafell - we pays our money and we takes our choice.
Awesome job. I’ve been on the Mikwaukee platform for years now. This confirmed my wait for Milwaukee’s track saw was worth it. Thank you.
Thanks! I've been looking at the corded Makita but am considering this one now! Appreciate the content!
Thanks for the vid! I’m not seeing the Milwaukee kit for less than $859 which means you’re now talking about a $50 difference between the Festool. Wondering if they raised the price due to the demand?
I bought my track separately because I didn’t want the clamps and other stuff. Maybe that’s why? But it would surprise me if they raised it. For that price I’d get a green saw.
You will find that the tool industry is cyclic with every company iterating off the first to market. Almost without fail the 2nd and 3rd to market perform better, have more features or are smaller/lighter.
100%
Very true. It’s called the Mafell MT55 and it was second to market …15 years ago….
Good, informative review! Nicely done. I'm a Milwaukee and Makita guy. Makita fit and finish and smooth operation are always top notch. Big power with 18volts is Milwaukee's calling card. But I think they've about reached the limit of what you can reasonably get from 18volts and are probably going/have already started to do what Makita did years ago that a lot of folks laughed at: Run two batteries at once for 36volts. Wires can only handle so many amps. When you double your voltage, you cut your amps in half, or open the door to twice the potential power, theoretically. But I can already build a house without a cord and I don't miss them a bit. Amazing times we live in. Can't wait for part two. I'm still waiting to see if I go Makita or Milwaukee for a cordless track saw. Based on what I've seen here and other videos, I don't think I'll be disappointed either way. I'm already heavily invested in both brand's 18v platforms and love just about every tool I have from both of them. But I gotta tell ya, other than big drilling or circular sawing or grinding, I pick up the Milwaukee 12v stuff first every time. If I'm driving big screws all day, or simply need lots of power, I'll of course use the 18v stuff. I just don't need big power most of the time.
I got the dust shield from you, works great. The Wen track works with the Milwaukee and the with the 45 degree lock when cutting a bevel. I got 110” of that track for way less than the Milwaukee track. The saw is amazing. I have had a corded Festool in the past but could not justify the cost. This saw is totally worth it. Thanks wittworks. Great channel.
You do the right thing; you label first-impression videos as exactly what they are. I'm so tired of getting like 20 minutes in and finding out "now I just took this out of the box...". That's not a review. That's a first impression or "unboxing"; Reviews are different. SO thank you for making that very clear up front, both in title and in the meat of the video. Well done, sir. Also, HOLY CRAP! I've forgotten to mail that arbor cover back that I wrongly ordered. Consider it on the way first thing tomorrow. Sorry about that. :\
Thank you. No worries. People will still watch it and miss what I said and complain that I didn’t run it into the ground (yet)
I'm Team Red but I bought the Festool. Here in Canada the Festool kit with batteries is $999. The Milwaukee is $878. So for an extra $100 I get full Bluetooth batteries which automatically start the vacuum. No idea how Milwaukee missed this, they should have at least added a bluetooth remote to their new Vac. Not having a power cord dangling around the vac hose is so much nicer. Great job on the review!
Same here. I have Festool track saw for over 10 years. I think 2 sides splinter guard already worth the $100 difference, let alone Bluetooth capabilities. I'm sure Festool holds patent for the Bluetooth feature. That's the reason others can not do yet.
I have the Bosch profactor track saw. It also has Bluetooth for the hepa vac.
Thank you! I own Milwaukee tools but was on the fence about getting this of the festool. Your video was helpful.
Great review. Looking forward to the next one!
I got tired of waiting for Milwaukee to release this tool and decided to go with the cordless Makita dual 5ah battery and couldn’t be happier. It does everything I need it to do and more. I figured it’s such a specialized tool that it wasn’t that big of a deal to go with another brand. I probably will eventually go with the 6ah batteries for a little more juice though.
The 6Ah batts are a bit of a performance downgrade. You’re probably better off getting a second set of 5Ahs.
@@reaperreaper5098 Where's the science to back that claim up? The 6ah provides more runtime and a tad more power I thought. Why do you think all big power Makita tools in Japan come with 6ah batteries?
@@clarkfos3447 Individual reviewers, such as Tools & Stuff have tested this. Also, when lifespan between cells of the same size is similar, high capacity cells have lower discharge rates and vice versa. Milwaukee’s older 18650 based 6Ah XC is weaker than its 5Ah counterpart. Same for DeWalt. There’s a reason that 6Ah (18650) batteries aren’t overly common in most markets, whereas those same markets are dominated by 5Ahs.
@@clarkfos3447 Makita’s 6Ah batteries use Sony VTC6, which offer 15A discharge at the cell level, or 30A continuous for the entire battery. The 5Ahs use either Sony VTC5s or Samsung 25Rs, both of which are 20A on the cell, 40A for the pack.
@@clarkfos3447 Discharge is literally what determines power output. Plenty of people have torn down and repaired Makita’s batteries, found that 6Ah packs use higher capacity, lower discharge cells. It’s not some sort of revelation.
Does the saw cut line up with the splinter guard on 45 degree cut?
This. That simple detail is a big reason why I chose the Festool.
I’ll try that and report back
It’s hard to beat the green precision. Have you seen their new sys table saw?
wondering that exact question, currently waiting to purchase because if it doesnt i,m going with the tsc55k
@@wittworks Please do!
Great review. Comparative reviews like this are really helpful.
Great informative video! I’ve needed/wanted a Track saw for a couple years. I had been waiting for Milwaukee to drop one being a “Milwaukee fan” and all. Also, being vested in the platform makes the decision easier.
I actually enjoyed the video and thankfully I am partially invested in the Milwaukee, so I will pick this up for the things you have covered. I recently picked up their new wet dry vac and paired it with just a regular circular saw and it worked really well, so I would imagine doing so the same with this track saw. I am a contractor, but I like to work in a dust free environment as much as possible. Now, I just need to wait for a sweet deal on this sucker because I am still pissed about the price.
I doubt they’ll cut the price. Maybe Hd will do a Father’s Day thing?
@@wittworks they did at one point but it was limited preorder promotion
100% would love to see a power/speed comparison between this and the Makita XGT track saw. Tools & Stuff showed that the 40v XGT track saw cut significantly faster than 36v (18 x 2) version. Supposedly due to the fact it can keep a higher RPM under load. So while the 36v version on paper says it's faster; it actually cuts slower. Seems like it would be best to compare the best from Makita vs this new Milwaukee track saw.
You’re making me poor.
Awesome review! Very thorough given the short amount of time you’ve had it. I’ve been looking forward to your thoughts. I’m a Milwaukee fanboy (no shame here), and it will definitely be the track saw I purchase. Your review firmed that up for me.
Great review and I really appreciate you taking the time to respond to your viewers. That way, we learn from you and from those who responded. Love it. (Im also that guy who's way too far down the Milwaukee rabbit hole to ever get out, so this was good news to me) 😅
Thank you! It’s a great saw. Way better than my makita.
Definitely going to be pissed if I have to get a red marker out and modify the sticker on my toolbox 😂
hahahaha. no new sticker in the pipeline. currently.
When I bought the track saw accessories from you on Etsy, little did I know you had a channel that I’d love too! Keep up the hard work man!
Great video. Just found your channel. Thanks for putting this together.
Jesus they’re not even trying to hide the fact that it’s a clone of the festool 🤣🤣🤣 depth and angle adjustment is identical. No surprise there given it’s a Chinese company
🫢 I must admit I haven’t seen the Festool one so I didn’t know it was copied. I’m trying really hard to get one to review. They said they’d send me one. So, that’s why I haven’t dropped $700-900. But we’ll see.
Jesus saves, so please respect the name, but I think He may be relatively uninterested in the arcane area of intellectual property law. In the absence of patent protection (or in the presence of a license), there is nothing under the law in the USA that prevents any entity from duplicating useful features of competitors’ products.
@@CurlyWoofsaw stop. Saw stop . Saw stop. Comm’ on bro…
Not the same. They went a festool route but it’s far from identical. Battery/power/dust port/ anti tip/ riving knife/ Packout box/ no blue tooth/ anyone legit has Milwaukee batteries/ one battery instead of two.
My biggest issue is that they lied about the price. They raised the price since this was revealed.
Yeah it’s about the same price as the Festool now.
Yes! Dang it. I forgot about this! Thank you for reminding me.
Given the price of eggs, I can forgive them this sin in this period of hyperinflation.
Hahaha. Poor chickens
So, admittedly I’m a DEWALT guy, but in this regard they’re in the same ballpark when it comes to new developments in motor design. So I’m not surprised that top of the line battery motors are as powerful as they are. I don’t need a track saw, but everything else I have is almost overpowered these days. Even my small 20 volt DEWALT 3” cutoff tool, according to the Torque Test Channel puts out about a horse with a 5 amp hour Powerstack battery. Considering how tiny that brushless motor is, it doesn’t seem possible. So I’m not surprised at the performance of the Milwaukee. I get why people would buy this over the corded Makita. Yeah. I’m going cordless on everything. Just every time I go back to one of my corded tools, it just seems to be such a hassle. Constantly checking where the cord is. Making sure I’m not grinding it, or cutting it. Having it bind against something, or running out of length. Or, finding the outlet is where I can’t get to it from where I need the tool, necessitating an extension, which I then have to put away. Those are just some of the problems we didn’t think of back when, because there was no alternative. So if you don’t need that ridiculous plastic case, if they offer it, you buy the bare tool. I do that much of the time these days. The savings are huge, and after you end up with four (or is it five?) chargers, and almost a dozen batteries in various sizes, you find that you don’t need that nice case after all.
Thanks for making this great review video. I have loved Milwaukee my whole life. Dad has a ½"drill and Sawzall he bought in the late 70's that have had a few switches and cords swapped out but still work great. Maybe even a brush set each. But he used them as a contractor until 1993 before switching professions. Did I mention they still work great. They do. When I heard they sold out to Tech Tronics several years ago, I was very disappointed. But it turns out to have been a good merger. Their tools are still great. And the regularly introduce great new tools that aren't just their 50th brushless drill and driver combo. (Looking at you Makita, 3 or 4 is plenty) My brother bought in to the Milwaukee battery architecture shortly after I went neck deep into Makita. He has at least a dozen tools and probably 18 batteries. I have about 28 batteries and even more tools. I have to say, the competition between just these two is pretty close in our opinion. But this saw looks like a solid win in my book. I have held out on a track saw but may just have to get this beast and maintain yet another battery system.
Really nice presentation. Great details for an 'unboxing' video. Nice delineation of opinon, experience and facts. Very honest, too. I could see the anguish on your face at your conclusion :) Keep up the great work!
Well the packout and battery alone are like 500$ lmao
Hahaha
Yeah the "case" is what? 140? The battery is maybe 120? That's the decent charger so that's another 150.
The lack of blade storage in the packout is a fail. Country of origin matters to me and a lot of people, I'd spend the extra money on the Festlol TSC 55 to avoid buying something made in China.
Good thoughts. I missed that detail! Thank you
Ya so buying stuff not made in China is a big factor for me. I really do my best to avoid buying things from Asia in general, aside from the poor quality of Chinese made good, many of your items are likely assembled by children working in extremely poor conditions
Just a heads up, whichever way you decide to go, the Milwaukee Packout system is made in Israel, not China. Idk if that makes a difference to you or not in the overall scheme of things, but just an fyi.
It's in a packout, you can attach just about anything to it. Including a blade storage case.
@Dim R its a packout xl, there's ample room for storage inside. Whoever designed the foam insert dropped the ball. They've had years to look at other brands and see what their solutions were.
Hey man, I bought the 40 v makita and a 40 v router! For me those are perfect! The other power tools are from Bosch, me being from Europe impacted my decision to buy Bosch here in the States! I love the makita track saw has the scoring capability, for veneer plywood or European style veneered particle boards. Thank you for your video, it’s always nice to watch tool videos!
Great video, thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge.
Got mines this week & used it this morning ridiculous cut on 2 ¼ 356 maple baseboard 7ft long with a ½" notch out for the back 5ft. My cut was from the top of the notch angled down to the base of the work piece so basically a 24" wedge perfect angle and cut with the track being supported by a surplus piece of 356 . Zero issues, more a test of the track really but still happy how everything worked
Thanks for the awesome informative assessment, it's helping me narrow down my first track saw purchase and I'm leaning on going the extra yard and get the Milwaukee
Great to hear!
Thanks. Best review I've seen on this saw yet. See you in a few months on long term.
Your reviews are the best. Honest and to the point! BTW, I've seen RYOBI personnel setting up the Milwaukee tools in the Milwaukee section and vice versa during a number of visits to Home Depot.
I new to your channel and watched because I’m considering the Milwaukee. Thank you for a great first impression and can’t wait to see more of your videos and future dust collection for the Milwaukee. I’ll be first in line as I will order my saw tomorrow. I’ve got lots of Milwaukee and have started buying some Makita Tools. I also subscribed.
Thank you. Welcome
This was the first Wittworks video that I have ever watched. I am extremely impressed with your dedication and attention to details. Thanks!
Wow, thank you! Hard work pays off.
This was a terrific first impression! I'm a woodworking hobbyist and bought the Festool Cordless TSC55KEB last September, and it arrived in time for Christmas. My "workshop" is my sidewalk and patio so I had to wait until Spring to start my builds for this year. If this Milwaukee track saw came out last year, it would have been a contender. I didn't buy the Makita because it has no riving knife so I went with the Festool and have been thrilled with its performance. The Festool blade stops within 2 seconds of the saw losing contact with the track. That was the big selling feature along with the little plastic limit stop to prevent kickback at the start of my cuts. Yeah, a cheap piece of plastic was a selling point lol. I might be 125-130 lbs with some muscle, but kickback was a huge concern for me (yes, it should be for everyone). This Milwaukee sounds like a terrific option! Glad there's another option in the track saw mix. As always, your vids are perfect and so informative!!!
I can't speak highly enough of milwaukee fuel products. The non fuel stuff however is not professional equipment in my eyes, but DIY'ers might find them useful I cannot say for certain. I made the switch away from makita in 2022 and have been quite happy for doing so. Makita is good don't get me wrong, but it's not milwaukee. I highly recommend thier m18 fuel impact gun. It has 4 different power settings. It can be as delicate as a low power 12v, or powerful enough to drive screws right through your workpiece should you decide to, the power is in your hands and they gave you the controls to finesse it! Thier variable speed multi tool is top notch. Thier variable speed angle grinder (the one with toggle switch not paddle switch) is also top notch. I've used Metabo grinders for decades, they are also top notch, but corded... Milwaukee is definetly one of the companies I look towards for my tools.
That being said I have the festool TS-75 (forget exact model) and that thing is a dream to use. Such perfect crisp cuts off that thing. I installed the $130 dollar composite blade in there, might be partially why. Also the rotex sanders are game changers. Depending on the task you can be done 5x faster at least. Even then you can swap modes and go random orbit after surfacing for finer grits. It's not as fast as a belt sander in rotex mode, but the finish quality vs a belt sander is readily visible. While I hope milwaukee makes all of these tools. I'm already bought in over here. If something needed replaced I would probably check milwaukee 1st. I don't love cords. The track saw I'm fine with a cord because it automatically triggers my festool vacuum which I love! I use that for my floor grinder too, saves accidentally dusting your environment with concrete dust!
Cool vid. I have the cordless makita the dsp601 and this one also has a electric brake plus antikickback it also has the aws chip which I love. And I also love the score line button for veneered sheets. I have everything from makita 18v just because I don't want different battery platforms.
Thanks for the review, I’m in the Milwaukee battery system already which is good savings buying tool only. I was worried it might be a downgrade from other brands, but you demonstrated otherwise. I saved a whopping 5% on Black Friday lol, and just ordered your kit today. Keep up the great reviews, both informative and entertaining. Edit: also worth pointing out that in Canada I was able to purchase a 106” guide rail for $375 vs $645 for a Festool. That makes it less than $50 more than two 55” guides and connector bars, nice not getting gouged on the long guide.