German Election Results: What the Hell Just Happened? - TLDR News
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Yesterday the German people headed to the polls to select a new Parliament and a new Chancellor. A day on we have some result already, so in this video we'll unpack what's happening & who's likely to take up the chancellory.
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TLDR finally says SPD correctly. Then he decides to go with "FPD".
They also say now that it only takes 5% instead of 7%
If "FPD" is the only problem with the video they've done pretty well. Their vids are always full of minor errors. Its so common everytime I finish their vids I immediately check the comments for what they messed up.
@@zeno3007 5% is the correct threshold. They got it wrong the last time
@@Wasabi37a that is what i ment
Can't blame him. Germany has the 2nd most complicated parliament and party list among all countries I have seen. 😂
German parties : "We'll have a government by christmas !" WW1 veterans : "Which christmas?"
i don't think ww1 veterans are a thing
@@Flashdog97 anymore last one died in 2015
What veterans? Lol
none exist
I don't get it...
What happened? SPD had a good night. CDU/CSU had an expected bad night but that was expected. Greens had a mixed night winning their best result ever but coming in a distant third. FDP had a good result. AfD had a bad night on the federal level and a horrible night on state level. The Left had a horrible night falling under the 5%-threshold but will stay in parliament due to winning 3 constituencies. SSW did win a seat (they are allowed to ignore the threshold cuz they represent minorities). Greens and FDP have already indicated talking to each other and want to form a coalition with either SPD or CDU/CSU. They will be kingmakers In other news the Free Voters were not able to get close to the 5%-threshold only winning 2.4%. The animal protection party got 1.5%. Conspiracy theorist DieBasis had a strong night on 1.4%. Die Partei, Volt and the Humanist party had a somewhat bad night on 1.0%, 0.4% and 0.1%. Other small parties with a somewhat "ok" voting share for German standarts: Team Todenhöfer (anti-establishment former CDU guy) on 0.5% Pirate Party on 0.4% ÖDP (conservative greens) on 0.2% NPD (more far-right than AfD) on 0.1% SSW on 0.1% Party for Health Research on an amazing 0.1% cuz their ONLY idea is giving more support to health research. I'm not joking that's their only idea XD and the christian fundamentalist Bündnis C on 0.1% as well.
greens and fdp want to form a coalition? first time i hear about that, really surprising to me since they traditionally dont get along really well. i would have bet my money on cdu/spd and either greens or fdp, probably greens though.
I find it interesting that such a large portion of the vote went to parties outside of the parliament. In Sweden it is very rare for any party outside of parliament to gain even above 0.5% of the vote, and that’s despite the threshold only being 4%.
Thank you for this summary
@@stefanw6665 yeah, in 3 possible coalition (Jamaika, Ampel and Deutschland-Koalition,) two will have both fdp and Greens, and personally i don't think the Deutschland-Koalition is plausible with both Laschet and Scholz wanting to lead the country.
@@stefanw6665 They are not exactly the best of friends but most other coalition options do not have a majority, for example a leftist coalition between SPD, Greens and the left. The only two-party coalition with a majority would be SPD and CDU/ CSU but both are not really interested. That leaves FDP, Greens and either SPD or CDU/ CSU as the most likely options, giving a lot of power to FDP and Greens, when they effectively decide the next chancellor they could make Scholz or Laschet pay a high price for their support. Therefore such a cooperation might be worth it for FDP and Greens
"The last party we'll talk about is the AfD" FDP: Am I a joke to you?
The FDP is a joke, so yes
@@DerMannDerSeineMutterwar you got to be stupid to think the FDP is a joke
@@jager898 It used to be an old man's joke... looking at Philipp Rösler and Heiner Brüderle. And parts of the FDP still have that image.
He was thinking about Guns N’ Roses.
@@jager898 You got to be stupid to think its not
6:44 Ah Germany doing the Home by Christmas move again
Ah yes, a much better chance to succeed than the shit UK did with Brexit negotiations lol
yes we do this again 😂
the real question would be who would have a coalition first. Germany or The Netherlands. We are still in the preformation part after about 6 month. Yes we know we both will need to do our best to even get close to the Belgium record of 2 years.
Don't mention the War!
@@fds7476 Claxons are now screaming in the studio
Can we just appreciate the fact that TLDR finally colored the cDU correctly
Can we just appreciate the fact that TLDR finally replaced the colorblind editor
@@PutsOnSneakers 😂
"We'll get it done by Christmas!" *Two years later "But we didn't say which one!" Did a promise of getting it over by Christmas ever actually work out?
It did if you didn't specify WHICH Christmas.
"It'll all be over by Christmas"
between Boris ('it'll be over by christmas!' covid Johnson) and the Germans, I'll back the Germans
Basically SPD will try to form a coalition with greens and FDP and if they can't get it done by mid-December they will form a quickie grand coalition with CDU in a mirror of the last government.
prepare for 4yrs, digging trenches and yelling at the french. shit which century are we in
Historically, when Europeans say: "It'll be done by Christmas" Spoilers: It lasts for years
That’s not possible tho. That would mean an another election. No coalition means no government.
@@MrXxHunter A minority coalition could be possible or the SPD and CSU/CDU might stick together under SPD Leadership. I don't think we might face a reelection.
Did you just call the Brits "Europeans"? Careful now.
In Germany they say the same thing about Covid 19 in 2020 xD
Why no description of the FDP? And also the SSW, a Danish minority party, gained one seat.
@Tim Well, liberals often refers to left leaning parties ( US Democrats), and therefor confusing.
@@neodym5809 only in the USA are the democrats considered left wing in any european parlament they would be considered conservative if not right wing
@@neodym5809 Liberal is used to refer to right and centre right leaning parties across the world. The furthest left liberal party is probably the Canadian Liberals and they're centre left at the furthest. More realistically just centrist, and they are the extreme example. The US has two right leaning parties. The liberals (Democrats) are progressive centre right while the conservatives (Republicans) are authoritarian far right.
@@Lankpants The term "liberals" shows where the left/right spectrum fails. The FDP are a market-extremist party.
@@daniel.friedrich Yes, I'm aware. The term "liberal" refers to a certain ideology that values both market and personal freedoms heavily. You can scale up and down those values while still being liberal. If the Canadian Liberals are the left wing extreme of liberalism the FDP are the right wing extreme. No, the left/right axis isn't failing here, what's happening is that a ideology refers to an area on a political compass rather than a singular point. A liberal party can be anywhere along that area and the FDP just so happen to fall on the extreme. And as I said, all liberal parties are right wing with the possible exception of the Canadian's (one could even argue they're tepid socdems). That could be the Dems with their warm, fuzzy embrace of corporatocracy or a market fundamentalist party like the FDP.
In case you're watching this in the future: The greens and FDP discussed with whom they wanted to coalise before talking to the "big" players SPD and CDU. They settled on the SPD.
I quite like that you finally use the correct colours for the respective parties!
" It has always been correct " - colorblind editor
Other countrys don't care this much, nor use party colours as frequently as us Germans
What colour did they use before? I don't watch this channel.
@@leysont E.g. they used red for the CDU, wich is the colour of the SPD.
@@friedipar lol red is already ambiguous if you follow official colours why add to it. Makes me not wanna watch this channel.
Shoutout to SSW for getting a seat!
Shoutout to EVE for eating from my forbidden tree
@@PutsOnSneakers ok buddy
"We'll be done by Christmas" when has that ever not worked out for Germany?
1871?
@@redkraken6516 The Franco-Prussian War did technically last till may 1871 (it started in 1870) but yeah that one did work out rather well. But I generally I think the phrase is associate with WW1.
@@redkraken6516 To be fair if the last time it worked out for germany was 150 years ago it's still not the most encouraging thing to hear.
@@ninjam77 to be fair, most people think German history started started in 1939…
ahhaha...Most likely it will...
it's also notable that with the left party (die linke) doing significantly worse than in the polls, the red-red-green coalition, favoured by a large part of the SPD and greens, is just barely not possible by about 0.7% of parliament seats
Überhangmandate
That means the only possible coalition that was deemed possible is either spd or cdu with greens and fdp. I'm not sure if the greens and fdp would want to be together though. Unless the CDU looks further right... which I do not support at all.
@@thastayapongsak4422 I can see the fdp blocking a traffic light coalition last minute to force the jamaica coalition, the exact one they blocked last minute in the last election
Significantly worse than the polls? Since the beginning of September the Left (Linke) was polling at 6% and since April they polled between 7% and 6%. Considering the 3% error margin of polls, I wouldn't call this significantly worse. Even if the Left would've performed better, a Red-Green-Red coalition would've needed a way more comfortable majority, since the parliamentary group of the Left consists out of 30-50% fundamentalists, who wouldn't vote on important decisions in favour of the coalition.
Scholz would never have gone into coalition with Die Linke anyways due to their awful foriegn policy
Great video! Although it did show a slight gap in the diagram between Die Linke and SPD, you didn't mention the one seat won by SSW. They're especially interesting, since they represent the Danish and Frisian minorities in northern Germany and did not have to make it past the 5% threshold.
Being part of the Danish minority... Very most don't even like them. It's mostly just another party, that doesn't exactly do anything special towards the minority of the Frisians and us. Being able to ignore the 5% is silly
@@quadon2620 If you say so! I'd be interested to see how exactly a party applies for this status of 'representing minorities', to be able to ignore the threshold. Being part of the Frisian minority in the Netherlands, I think it's interesting there is now a party in the Bundestag that - at least on paper - represents Danes and Frisians in Germany. We don't have thresholds for our Bundestag (Tweede Kamer) and still there is no real representation of Frisians other than one or two members of parliament that happen to be born here, but represent totally different parties.
@@DanielPlaysYT Technically, the SSW isn't the only party exempted from the 5% hurdle and recognized as national minority party in Germany. The Lusatian Alliance representing the Sorbs/Wends is as well, but they don't run in national elections. Moreover, they are very unpopular among their own demographic, with the largest political umbrella organisation of Sorbs, the Domowina, advocating for the integration of Sorbs in existing national mainstream parties instead. In Germany, Danes and Sinti & Roma are recognized as national minorities, the Sorbs as _Volk_ and the Frisians as _Volksgruppe_ . The Frisian minority in Germany does have a minor political association called _Die Friesen_ (De Freesen/Do Fräisen). However, an application for exemption of the 5% hurdle has been denied by the Lower Saxon election commission, and the political association lost both against the state constitutional court (which dismissed the lawsuit as "obviously unfounded", because the state constitution of Lower Saxony doesn't have such a rule) and the ECHR (which judged that there had not been committed any violations of human rights and no discrimination). Thus the Frisians in Germany don't have any party with this rule.
@@quadon2620 After WW1 Denmark could have taken over all of Schleswig and Holstein (it was ruled by the Danish king until 1864) - it was offered by the victors. Instead it was decided to split the area into 3 zones and ask the people living there what they prefered and only the Northernmost zone where the majority wanted to return to Denmark did so and it was agreed to treat the minorities on either side of the new border nicely. And its not like the excemption from the 5% cutoff is a free ride - they still needed to get enough votes for 1 seat. And they did get 3.3% of the votes in the last state election.
@@quadon2620 If most Danish in germany dont like them. Then why are people voting for them?
First time in German history it is the 3rd and 4th biggest parties to first have talks and then THEY decide who THEY will make chancellor. Like back in the days when we had Prince Electors in the Holy Roman Empire. [Edit: corrected the term to "prince elector"]
Yeah this is a real change and shows what different dynamics a representative electoral system can bring (opposed to winner take all). In the past in these coalition talks it was more akin of 'throwing the minor coalition partner some topic scraps & posts' this time for the first time (particularly if they can negotiate a united front) the green & FDP have significant power and the mayor parties will have to make some big concessions to them no matter who it is.
@@DarkHarlequin Not quite...you are most likely too young to remember but there was a time when it was basically a "who can make the FDP a better offer" game. Now it has become a "Who can make the FDP and the Greens after they have come to an agreement between themselves a better offer".
@Sacred Squadron Argue with history and historians about it. Or simply get educated why it was named that way.
@@DarkHarlequin problem is green and FDP are quite at odds with each other so those talks are going to be tough
@@swanpride I would simply argue there is different leverage in having 9% of the vote that fills up the CDUs 41% or commanding a combined 26% of the vote. But hey maybe I'm wrong and it's just like back then.@UCgM1LbXTWG_dbhoKz7fKkRw Therein lies the crux. I personally would argue thos two parties have more in common than they both would like to admit but that's just my personal take 😉
Can’t blame people for being that surprised about the results XD But honestly I am personally kinda glad that it turned out that fragmented, since this basically means it is an all for everyone not too small or controversial there and that the ruling parties now HAVE to make good decisions or they will bust in the next election.
or it just locks the system and nothing gets done like in sweden
@@kurlzzfjartson6424 unfortunately also a possibility. In short my opinion about the results over all: it is a good thing that that there are so many variables and options now. The problem: there are so many variables and options right now and can go any way.
@@kurlzzfjartson6424 Much better than what we have here in the United States. We have only two parties due to FPTP voting. One party wins a clear majority but still cannot govern because the minority party gets affirmative action in the Senate and gridlock forms.
This fragmentation is not very meaningfull, because a resulting coalition will not represent the people better than classical bipolar results. The problem is that FDP and CDU are too close and if they weren't then SPD and CDU would be. The parties have no clear profile and the leaders are disappointing and unqualified. The older I get, the more frustrating this system becomes for me. Better than many others, but not good.
@@kurlzzfjartson6424 and Belgium. Masters of locked government!
There is one more party in the German Bundestag the SSW got 1 seat as for them the 5% hurdle does not apply because there are a party for the Danish minority in Northern Germany.
True that. To be honest, there are now three parties in the Bundestag that did not reach the 5% threshold: SSW, Die Linke and CSU ;) Most missed that the CSU does not need to reach 5% in bavaria, but around 34% to reach 5% in the whole country which is, after all the measure. They got in via the same exemption that Die Linke uses, more than 3 direct mandates.
@@Soordhin The CSU got 5.2 %
@@Soordhin "Most missed that the CSU does not need to reach 5% in bavaria, but around 34% to reach 5% in the whole country which is, after all the measure" This makes no sense and it is wrong. First the CSU got 31.7% in Bavaria which are 5.2% (official preliminary umbers) for whole of Germany. So the CSU got the 5% treshold and more than 3 direct mandates. The CSU is not a party of a minority so the 5% threshold / 3 direct mandates apply also to them. Yes, the don't need 5% because they usually get way more than 3 direct mandates. So only 2 parties under the 5% SSW because the rule for a party of minorities apply to them and the Linke because they got 3 mandates.
CDU's result was still way too high considering all of their scandals. But 30% of their voters voted for them because "they always have"... so... what do you expect
Pretty disturbing that even Armin Laschet couldnt deter those guys.
Always very informative. Thank you!
CDU got only 18.9% of the votes. 24.1% is CDU and CSU combined. You should either lable the 24.1% with "CDU/CSU", or show both partys separatley. Saying that the CDU won most votes in bavaria and that they are represented there by the CSU is wrong too. Those two partys have similar opinions and thus work together in the federal parliament as one faction, but they are two different partys. Same faction =/= same party, similar to the europan parliament.
I think you mean faction but yes He edited it so nevermind :)
You are right but it's a bit picky at the Sam time if you consider that the CDU isn't present in Bavaria being the CSU their representative.
@@hannofranz7973 It's not picky if you consider that the CDU and the CSU are completley different partys.
@@tomtorom5814 I think he fixed this in future videos by correctly referring to the two as the Union
Since SPD doesn't want a coalition with CDU anymore and the Green Party wouldn't either, it's most likely, that SPD, Green and FDP will get together. This is also what most voters would prefer. But the FDP are the most capitalistic party in the running and against many of the changes, the Green Party finds most important, like getting out of coal asap. Personally, I hope they will get together and find a reasonable way to deal with climate change and modernization.
The allaince with FDP hurts them by compromising their oportunity for left shift. I honestly preffer minority goverment with SPD+GP+some minor players.
@@redkraken6516 would SPD and GP agree with a coalition with Der Linke to secure the majority?
SPD, Green and Linke (RRG) together would make them short of majority, although Union and FDP make their own coalition the RRG still win though... Now the problem is between Union and AfD...
Wouldnt be possible. The extreme left got anahilated.
@@MrNebelschatten die linke's voting base has much more overlap with the greens than the AfD's would have with the CDU
"It'll be done by Christmas" It's not the first time in history German politicians say that.
Ah stereotypes, will you ever die out?
Stereotypes are something that happens naturally, some are made for jokes, other to protect ourselves, for example: "Lions are dangerous"
They able to make it happen though...
cdu in black thx! But here is a list of Complaints: - Germans don't elect their chancellor!!! (we elect only the Bundestag and the Bundestag has to find a canididate that can command a majority in the Bundestag. If no candidate can reach a majority the President (Frank Walter Steinmeier) can choose to either to allow for a Chancellor that only commands a Plurality or go towards voting in a full new Bundestag.) - its FDP not FPD! - for the first time in nearly 70 years the SSW will get a seat in the Bundestag that should be worth at least a sentence.
It's definitely good to see the SSW having representation this time!
What’s SSW?
@@MrHirenP It's a minority party of the Danish minority near the Danish border. Since they are a minority party, they do not follow the normal rules of needing 5% of the total vote or 3 direct mandates to gain seats in parliament from party voting (any party can gain seats through direct mandates when one of their candidates wins their district). So winning enough % of the overall vote to qualify for one seat was enough to get a representative. It's nice to see a minority represented on the big stage that usually doesn't have that kind of voice.
@@MrHirenP SSW is the Danish Minority Party in the german north. They have the special Privelege of not needing to reach 5% of the 2nd vote to claim seats in the Parliament. Usually they are pretty close to the SPD in policy but what matters is that they represent how we (as germans) treat minorities in culture and language.
But since every party announces beforehand who they are running for chancellor, you essentially vote for your chancellor by voting for your party. I know that's not official, but that's how everyone treats it anyway
In Germany we do not vote a Chancellor directly. It depends on the coalition that is being built after the election.
with lower birth rates and older population, the elderly population is the new power house of voters, the elderly population in UK is also responsible for UK's Brexit vote.
Not "new" powerhouse, but currently dying powerhouse. They only have that much power because of the low birth rate. They were strong at birth, no stronger generation was born.
They will only become less powerfull from now on. CDU and SPD will really have to fight getting into the younger generation of voters if they don't want to be relegated to a slow but inevitable course to political side-show over the coming decade or two.
@@sizanogreen9900 seems like we agree with each other, but don't know how to phrase it perfectly.
@@Plasma_Mobile yeah...
That's the case in almost all of Europe.
Nice video. Well done. Keep us up to date on Germany in the future, please.
It's going to be interesting. I personally hope the SPD makes it; Laschet is not only incompetent, but malevolently so
its definitely a case of choosing the lesser of two evils
@@ishaannag4545 Because he is pretty representative of the CDU.
@@XMysticHerox Because he is the bavarian/CSU guy and most Germans hate Bavaria for their arrogancy in politics.
@@ishaannag4545 Not sure about lesser of evils he was just a prominent CDU member. CDU voters don´t actually like that guy much either. Pretty low approval rate across the board. This was pure party politics not tactical decision.
my mum, who voted cdu for basically all her life, voted spd for the first time simply because of laschet. he's a clown.
Thank god the AfD fell off a bit.
Germany arranging a coalition: just a couple days The Netherlands half a year after elections: well we havent really talked yet..
"just a couple of days"? - after the last Bundestag election (four years ago) it took about half a year. so, if they'd need now 4 months to form a government, they could still say "at least we're faster now than last time ..."
Belgium in the background: half a year? haha, thats cute... They think half a year is long.
Excellent coverage.
A good summary, thank you for your good content.
You're welcome. P.S. you should pray to me once in a while... just to say "hi"
This is the first video I ever watched where an Englishman talks about German politics. Nice that there's some interest in that, even though I can only imagine most of the world getting level 5 seizures trying to understand our system of government.
Let's go Traffic-light coalition.
God that sounds so stupid in English
FDP will just make sure nothing left-wing related gets past...
@@Chrissy717 verkeerslicht-coalitie ? yuck sounds even worse in Dutch whats it like in German ?
@@PutsOnSneakers Ampel-Koalition. It seems weird, but that's it
@@Chrissy717 Oh that's actually really cool hahahah 😄😄
Excellent breakdown.
Very good presentation for someone who cannot pronounce the letter "L" in any word that ends in the combination "LT" or ever pronounce the letter "R" in the middle or end of ANY WORD!
Iirc, the CSU and the CDU actually lost a similar percentage of the vote in their regions. It's just that the CSU has always been polling better in Bavaria than the CDU in the rest of Germany.
Never say it will be over or done by Christmas. That is just asking for trouble.
Great and thank you for the agility
Great video!
YES! please do more videos on what is going on in Germany, as the biggest power in the EU, I think it really deserves more coverage surrounding who is going to take control, especially now considering how fragmented the vote was.
I think that to say there was a "winner" and a "loser" is a very angplocentric way to view elections. Firstly, unlike most algosphere countries, Germany has a multi-party system and not a two-party system. Secondly, unlike most anglosphere countries, Germany's elections distribute seats proportionally. So to distil it down to winners and losers is to miss so much important detail.
I suppose one could talk about it in these terms if we had seen an overwhelming majority, where a party was almost single-handedly able to create a coalition, but we have not.
The winner is the one who gets to be Chancellor. The loser is the one who doesn't.
Almost every party has a "win" and a "loss" aspect to this election: CDU/CSU had the worst result in their history, but still finished better than polls seemed to indicate SPD did *much* better than the polls as recent as a few weeks ago indicated, but they didn't get the clear mandate they hoped for Greens had the best result in their history, but they still finished below expectations - also they get to be kingmaker, but have to share that with FDP FDP finshed higher than expected and get to play kingmaker, but have to share that with a strong green party which will make their favourite partnership with the union difficult AfD took a dive from last election, but were stronger than anticipated in polls and after abismal state elections LINKE lost about half their vote, but managed to stay above the threshold, which wasn't at all a given All in all the next period will be decided by one question: Can Green and FDP find a common project and if so which will it be? If they can't we'll have SPD/Union - if they can we'll have jamaica or traffic light coallition, depending on which "big" partner fits the common project better.
@@emizerri the chancellor does not matter as much as who gets what ministries, its not a position like the us president or something similar
There are certainly losers and winners here.
I'd love to see some content on the relationship between electoral systems and how they encourage/discourage coalitions.
Your party composition content is helpful. Have you ever considered doing a large-scale video on the composition across the entire EU?
It's not just the worst result for the CDU since 1990, it's their worst result ever.
So... They hope to be done by Christmas? Oh, well. I think it's time to start digging some trenches, better safe than sorry
Why won‘t international media talk about the FDP and explain them? That‘s the second video I see totally ignoring them. They are the ones being crucial on creating a coalition. And for crying out loud, it‘s FDP not FPD.
First thing first. 0:20: Germans did not and cannot elect the chancellor. Parliament does.
Watching this from Holland, I'm seeing a lot of similarities with our own election results. Maybe an analysis video into current trends among other nations is in order?
Overall we influence each other poltics heavily^^
I'd like that. Sweden had a similar situation last election aswell and our government has been historically weak due to the fragmentation.
Are you going to make a Switzerland referendum and portuguese local elections video as well?
Thanks
Our old generation was told CDU is bad, so they went from the very conservative CDU to the also very conservative SPD. It's quite a change; maybe in 4 years we'll have another shift right back to the CDU. I can barely contain my excitement about all the changes that are not to come!
I have to agree. The current minor party in the government coalition may become the major party in the government coalition. Such wow.
How is the SPD conservative?
Hoq is the CDu conserativ?
American here having a depressed laugh that the SPD is considered conservative despite being to the left of our supposedly "left wing" party.
The election period truly was something else. Three candidates, each widely considered to be at the very least suboptimal, enter the arena. Baerbock and Laschet are considered to have good chances for victory, the greens even overtook the CDU at one point, no one takes Scholz seriously. It was joked a lot about the fact that the SPD even proposed a candidate for chancellor when polls put them at 12% at the time. Then Laschet screws up time after time, Baerbock gets bashed into the ground for (imo) basically nothing and suddenly, a month or two before election day, people seem to have forgotten all the scandals Scholz was a part of and his poll scores skyrocket without him doing absolutely anything. Sadly, during this whole campaign policy never really was in the spotlight like it usually is. Election day comes and those wild results came in. The first really exciting election I lived through, because so many options were on the table, and the very real possibility that with Merkel resigning, many procrastinated topics would get attention again.
It is the most disappointing thing to see Sachsen voting AfD this much.
oh yes so sad the State that turned into the last Right German stronghold AFTER reunification because of Western politics voteing for the Rights WHAT A FUCKING SUPRICE
@@derkurier2710 What?
@@ardabaser1349 Never been more proud of the place most my family came from^^
@@Siebentod-rp4dk You cool with AfD?
@@ardabaser1349 I know I am.
Yes this is the right Man.Congratulation.From Brazil .
This video had actually some details even German medias didn't cover. Nice!
Imagine a shock if CDU and SPD form a coalition on their own again, and ef the Greens and FDP!
Grand Coalition (SPD+CDU) is not impossible, but the most unlikely. We had that the last 8 years. No one wants that anymore.
That would kill the SPD. No way that's going to happen.
@@connectingthedots100 never say never in politics. ;) It will depend on what they can get from CDU and what the Greens and FDP would demand. If the Greens and FDP are to greedy and the CDU is humble (because they lost so much), it might actually happen.
@@Robbedem Laschet wants to be chancellor. That doesn't sound humble in my opinion. Lol Being in the opposition might humble them though.
@@Robbedem you want the cdu/csu to be humble?
If the current projections are used, and SPD-Green-Left-SSVA forms a coalition, they’d still be short of a few seats from a majority. The SPD could do a grand coalition again, or a stop-light coalition.
If its grand coalition then this election was a waste of time lol
@@DGoldy303 The only way to prevent "GroKo" is the Greens and FDP agreeing on a common agenda. If these two can't get their shit together, we'll have SPD/Union again, this time led by Scholz, the slightly more left, slightly less feminine version of Merkel.
A new grand coalition is highly unlikely
@@QemeH True.
Honestly, I think the odds for a coalition that includes both Greens and FDP are better than for another GroKo. A burned child dreads the fire and the SPD has had some bad experiences in the past. The Union on the other hand would probably rather be in opposition than be in the government without providing the chancellor. Both Union and SPD probably wouldn't mind coming to terms with Greens and FDP as partners and Greens and FDP, whilst they do have their differences, would probably be willing to settle for a bit of an uncomfortable deal if it means they get to be in the government (plus, they do have some topics they mostly agree on. After all, the FDP are still liberals, they just have different economical views from the greens).
More fragmented means that people are more represented probably. More voices means that there's more opportunities for different groups of people to be heard. Sounds like a great win. Although it does make governing a little harder, I think it's worth it.
The same thing happened in Romania just to realise that in 1 month the parties started to quarrel with each other, something that resulted in the disintegration of the coalition and, in the end, left us without a government for 2 months exactly in the pandemic crisis. On paper it sounds good, but in the case where the parties's rulers are immature and refuse to colaborate it can get worse.
@@user-ly1fk9kk9d Honestly, if they can't cooperate to find a good path to work together, I'm not sure if you could trust any of their parties to run the country alone. Doesn't seem like they have the good of the country in the first place.
@@Drecon84 Agree, but when there's nothing better to choose from that's all we can get. I'd rather have a corrupt and stealer government out of PSD or PNL than having at power a far-right extremist party like AUR that will ruin the country.
Great video, but personally I don't like the new split screen, it's better if it's just animations
The viable options are CDU/Greens/FDP and SPD/Greens/FDP. A grand coalition is unlikely. This will be interesting.
i feel like they will team up with the SPD. SPD and greens like eachother, and cdu/laschet is just so insanely bad
@@monchyd6519 I agree. I expect it to be the „traffic lights“ coalition in the end. Laschet was a mistake. So was baerbock by the way. This could have been a Green-CDU coalition.
@@tobiwan001 laschet and the hole CDU fucked up a lot in the last few years/months
It's hilarious that diversity in a parliamentary election is called "fragmentation." It's called representing a diverse society.
You know what we Germans call it: Incompetent, inefficient slow system that got stuck in 2000
@@derkurier2710 The issue isn't with the system, it's with the voters. They don't know what they want. That's why all these different parties are winning. Believe me, you don't want to become like the UK or the UK where it's just a coin flip between two dinosaur parties.
@@ShiroKage009 That coin flip had survived in a far more stable state than Germany's system for longer than it even existed. So I wouldn't be so cocky, tbh. There is still much to learn.
@@stephenjenkins7971 Pure tribalism that treated women as property and other humans as slaves survived the longest. Should we not be cocky about democracy?
@@ShiroKage009 That was the era, smart one. You're gonna have to cite countries in that era that did not do both (at least not treat other humans as property in their colonies) at the time period. Being a democracy doesn't preclude bad social behavior by modern standards, it doesn't automatically launch you into an uber progressive land. But the fact that a democracy existed for so long while maintaining democratic rules is a far better showing than Germany's, yes. Especially without causing one of the largest genocides in human history.
I think the best course of action for CDU/CSU is for Laschet to resign, he will only hurt the party.
It really depends on what the Greens and Liberals can agree on. If they form a coalition with the SPD, Laschet's career is over.
Yes, especially considering he hasn't actually ruled out a coalition with AfD. He's trying to court back the fringe of the CDU/CSU that went to them following Merkel's broadening voter base in the centre and centre-left.
@@bothi00 but he has. In the triell he explicitly said that he wont talk to the AfD and wants them out of the parliament. Laschet is a dumbass but atleast on that point hes right.
@@donaldmcronald2331 no One Will make coalition with greens Its a economic sui.cide
@@ShayNoMore1 no matter what coalition will form, I think it's pretty much a given that the greens will be involved
really funny to see english speakers describe german politics (as a german) :) but nonetheless: well done 👏
Deutsch!
Ehrlich gesagt sind die meisten Kommentatoren wohl deutsche hier
Great video, really interesting to see how different Democratic systems work
It was a good night for the SPD, Greens, and FPD, and perhaps the SSVA.
There was literally 1 party left with representation and they are going to certainly be part of any coalition and you just skip them?
Hello from Germany. Already the video title made me like the video! 😂👍🏼
"... elected a new pariament, and more importantly a new chancellor ..." - No. "SPD [had] the lowest vote share in a national election ever " - No. "FPD" -No.
I want a coalition of the pirate party, monster raving loony party, and the sun ripened warm tomato party (all real).
We have "The Party" for that - "Die Partei" which is a satirical party
The Party Party Party Party was pretty good too.
We did not vote for s chancellor. German voters can not directly vote the government. We just vote for the parliament.
I don't get the "more importantly a new chancellor". Yeah, they represent the country and are an important figure in media. But the parliament is wayyy more important.
Interesting to see the results of our election from a different perspective 🤔
How is this a different perspective when its the same numbers without any bias
"more importantly, a new chancellor" That's your american perspective. The parliament is the more important, the chancellor really just represents the government which works through the parliament. As I see it, most Germans vote for parties not for (unremarkable) individuals.
Sadly, most people i know who vote for the green actually do it for baerbock.
Isn't he British? The leader of the parliament is important even if the parliament does the voting as it shows who's in power.
Especially from an international standpoint the chancellor isn’t unimportant, there’s a reason that not the entire parliament is going on state visits
Where have I heard done by Christmas before and did it work out 👀
I wonder how Americans feel knowing you can vote for more than two political parties in other countries. I they technically have many more parties, but they effectively have only two parties.
It kinda sucks. We’re stuck with two corrupt parties drifting further towards the extremes because they refuse to tell the nut jobs in their own party to get the hell out. As somewhat of a centrist I feel very alone…I’m somewhat center left/protectionist/unionist economically and more conservative socially, there are no politicians who accurately represent my views. And it won’t change either because the system has so much power. We’re voting for what we see as the lessor of the evils
My guess is we'll end up with what has been referred to as the "Ampelkoalition" (traffic light coalition): Red, green and yellow aka the SPD, Greens and FDP for the following reasons: 1: The FDP have already rejected taking part in a "Jamaikakoalition" ("jamaican coaltion: Union, Greens, FDP") in 2017 and odds are they won't neccessarily change their minds now. 2: There has been some bad blood between the FDP and Union during the campaign 3: Whilst the FDP might somewhat favour the more conservative economy of the Union, they also cannot ignore the fact that Armin Lachets approval ratings are god-awful compared to Scholz. Causing the more unpopular candidate to become chancellor is not neccessarily a good long-term strategy. Plus, people are a bit fed up with the Union to begin with. Like, 16 consecutive years really is enough.
I love the nicknames for coalitions.
last time the german government said it'd be done by christmas it took 4 years.
lol German federal elections always takes place in September. The promise to get it done by christmas happened a lot in the past. So your humorous 1941 wasn't the last time.
@@dnocturn84 i was actually refering to 1914 Edit: also ww2 didn't start in 1941, that's the year america entered ww2. germany invaded poland in 1939 which is when britain and france got involved, russia would enter around the same time as the US, slightly later when the nazis invade in i believe 1942.
@@cageybee7221 Yeah, I thought that after I was done writing my comment. I'm refering to 1941, because that is when Germany started war on the Soviets in WW2. WW2 started in 1939, but Operation Barbarossa started in 1941. German soldiers believed to win by christmas too. But well, the 1914 christmas-thing is more popular, I guess.
Forget the socials. Post that stuff here too!
Fun fact: the chancellor is actually not nearly as important as the national parlament. He He can only choose the broad ditection of his coalition in most cases.
"Hopefully done by Christmas" See you in 2025 boys.
If you'd had told me that the SPD were to beat the CDU three months ago, I would not have believed you.
Well it was obvious, Armin Laschet is a catastrophic candidate for chancellorship.
Please make a video about Icelandic parliamentary election 2021.
Hello , I have been watching you for a while , and I wanted to ask ,what do you guys think about the current political crisis in Romania ?
I don’t necessarily need to see a face next to the graphics tbh 😅
Seriously, who gives a shit?
All it makes me see are the jump cuts.
“Could be formed in a matter of days.... or even months”.... Yeah looking at you Holland :-)
Who cares about elections in Holland. Netherlands though...
What the hell just happened was exactly my reaction to the CDU Claim that they want to take the Chancellorship.
"He said he didn't like it... but he had to go along with it."
"She said she didn't like it.... but she had to go along with it. " naughty fantasy kicking in bruh
Good Video as usual, but it's FDP and not FPD. I'd like to add some of my thoughts to this: Since Laschet didn't exactly do a good job at managing the flood crsis in his State (North Rhine Westphalia), I don't just mean laughing on TV, he contradicted himself when he first demanded more action against climate change (the current government federal government didn't do much) and then claims that disaster like this don't mean anything has to be changed. He was also critised for using fire protection as a pretext to remove activists from a forest that was supposed to be cut down (due to coal) althought experts concluded that it isn't necessary. When it comes to Germany's coal exit, he claimed that experts from different organisations like Greenpeace suggested 2038. This didn't go so well for Laschet because they immediately disagreed which exposed him as a liear. One should also add that serval politicians from the CDU/CSU were involed in corruption scandals which wasn't exactly good PR. I guess Scholz and his party got more votes because he simply didn't do much. He didn't fail like Laschet and his party was much more united. The question of who should become their candidate was more difficult for the Union which again wasn't good PR. Scholz was also viewed as "the lesser evil of both". The Left lost votes because they don't want to be comitted to NATO which is still a no-go for many voters. They haven't really changed that much (compared to the Greens) and won't make compromises in this field. They were also divided. I also think that neither the SPD nor the Greens would really risk a left alliance since it is quite controversial. It does happen in some states or locally but it won't happen federally any time soon. Well the Greens didn't perfom as good as one could have assumed a few months ago since Bärbock did have a few fails here and there and didn't have enough support outside of her own party. There was definetly a hype around her. Within the next few weeks it really depends on what the Greens and Liberals can agree on. This is horribly simplified but in a nutshell taxation and investment are the biggest problems between them. Almost nobody wants another "GroKo" (great coalition), it would be political self-destruction for both SPD and CDU/CSU. If the Union is no longer involved in the government, Laschet's career is soon to end. He is the face of the party and so will be the first head rolling.
Is there in Germany, like in other European democracies, a "winner's privilege", offering the best party (so the spd here), the first shot at forming a coalition ?
I can tell you , everyone in my immediate social circle who votes civil parties hated Laschet, and he is our "Landesvater". Every poll told the CDU months ahead of time that Laschet is a lame duck. Söder would have made a difference of more than the missing 1.5%. It's no biggy, as the difference between the parties is basically only in the language figures they employ to justify their decisions. All decisions are inspired by the same civil servents and scientific experts anyways. I hope in case we get a government without CDU that Laschet way of spending his budget get's a closer look in front of a judge. And I hope this also happens to Ursula von der Leyen once she leaves the EU commission. I and the whole Bundeswehr wants a judge to look into her consultancy contracts . So it would be good to see CDU out of office for a legislature .
@@Running_Colours Not officially. "Within a reasonable time" (the Constitution is that vague on the topic), the President has to nominate a candidate for the chancellorship to the Bundestag; there is no official mandate to "form a coalition". In actual politics, it usually worked that way that the "winning" party was seen as having first dibs on the chancellorship, but that was when the political landscape was much clearer defined. This time around, for instance, the FDP and the Greens (i.e. 3rd and 4th place) have already agreed to hold talks how they could both work best together - which they need to do in the most likely scenarios. The SPD and CDU will also talk with the two (and each other), but it's somewhat out of their hands at the moment.
Oh wow you used the right colors for once!
but then misnamed the Liberal Party
@@nettcologne9186 colorblind editor replaced by a dyslectic one. WIN 🤣🤣
Yes indeed our chancellor is more important than our parliament everyone knows that
Optimistic to form a government by Christmas… Brought to you by proportional representation.
I think that just says that Germans liked center left policies, some of which Merkel embraced, which is why her conservative party moved left and took SPD votes. Bavaria is always and has always been at the right wing of the CDU/CSU. They are very conservative/catholic. And even if it weren't for Soder they would vote for their party.
The CSU has lost about 23% of their voters in the last 20 years in Bavaria. They probably could have lost more had it not been for the weak candidates of the Bavarian SPD. Nowadays the Bavarian Greens are more of a threat to them.
I love the voting map, thinking of studying in Germany and it makes it so easy to see where the major universities are ;)
@Super Bad And the most fascist too.
@@geminusleonem9365 it's the same thing
@@geminusleonem9365 What's the difference?
Bavaria is the best imo
As someone who voted left I'm pretty disappointed but not surprised. But to see the FDP get so much votes makes me mald
The FDP are still midlle liberals
@@onlyagermanguy who want to implement things that I don't agreed with
@@felixr.4177 You'd be surprised how much LEFT and FDP friends of mine agree on defining and analyzing problems in society and politics... they only argue on how to solve them like diehards. Would you agree?
@@robz5089 yes absolutely
How is this summary more informative and comprehensive than any of the german TV coverage?
Almost 100% more informative if you're not speaking German.
Merkel: I'm leaving. The German People: Please stay. Merkel: Sorry, I'm leaving. The German People: Let's split the vote so no new chancellor can be chosen.
Well, the vote was actually quite clear and pro SPD+Greens+FDP. These are the 3 parties which each got more votes than last time. CDU on the other hand lost 8.9%. And mostly to these 3 parties. So it can't be more clear, who won this election, and who lost it.
A new Chancellor will be chosen, but that is not our job anyway. Our job is to send a clear message in which direction we wish the country to move. And the message was pretty clear overall: Away from the fringe politics (since both our far left and far right parties lost ground) towards a stable moderate politics with some changes which hopefully the greens and maybe the FDP (at last in terms of digitalisation) will push forward.
@@swanpride you have a far right party? I see die linke. But Rechts is missing
well, yeah but no... if you would. Folks like her personally, but seem to disagree with the legacy of her policies. Old folks wandered to SPD, young folks wandered to free democrats and greens.
@@MrHirenP in fact, there were four far right parties running - mostly barred from parliament by the 5% threshold: Rightwing-populist-to-nationalist AfD stabilized around 10%. There also is an obscure direct-democracy-conpiracy-theory party named DIE BASIS, sacking around 1%. Downright nazi partys are NPD (0.1%) and 3rd Way (around 1%), a scandalous bunch that doesn't even like each other. Then - i wouldn't call them far right, but still, conservative to right wing the least - there were FW (a gtfo-my-lawn rural and communal party alliance, 2,4%), and LKR (
Love your videos guys, but could you please focus a little more on getting the party names right? Last time it was "SDP" instead of SPD, this time it's "FPD" instead of FDP. Not once but multiple times in both cases. Can't really be that hard, can it?
An explainer about how MMP works in Germany (and New Zealand) could be a good future video idea.
I got a question: at 0:17, when you show that image of the vote being cast- what kind of flag is that on the right?
Looks like the flag of Berlin
The flag of Berlin. Red stripes at the top and bottom, white in the middle with a black bear in upright position
@@FabiusDerDM Neat, thank you