J'ai regardé votre reportage avec une humilité immense. J'ai pris conscience de mon incompétence et surtout de la désinvolture de ceux qui savent tout. Votre reportage est un trésor, mille fois merci.
@c.merovee898711 ай бұрын
A fantastic glimpse of past skills, modern man thinks he knows everything, but he could not even begin to do what these people are doing as an everyday job, the sad thing is we are constantly told by ignorant media that all the superb guns that relied on these skills should be destroyed, whereas they should be considered along with the highest forms of art. Chris B.
@453421abcdefg12345 Жыл бұрын
I agree, the skill and beauty of these firearms is mind boggling.
@craigguilmet6282 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you.
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
Eu concordo plenamente com você, fantástico feito primitivo de armas, hoje temos tudo em tecnologia e achamos saber algo, maldito presidente aqui do Brasil hoje em 2003 distraiu muitas armas, distraindo a história de cada uma, maldito fala de democracia mas esquerdista só apoia bandido da raça dele...
@freitasn10297 ай бұрын
Your an ignorant child if you think man hasn't progressed little middle class boy, plenty of working class people do back breaking work in the western world,wait a few years till you have a considered option before posting again boy and till then be quiet 🤫 all the best from sunny Scotland
@gorbalsboy7 ай бұрын
Hard way of making a living
@BobJury-lf6bb7 ай бұрын
Being a welder for 50 years I can't get over they are doing all their work with white hot steel/iron without gloves! Not to mention no glasses for their eyes. I have always liked Damascus and those shown are really nice. Thanks to the poster of this.
@wjgrind2 жыл бұрын
Merci pour cette Vidéo .! J' ai eu le frère de mon arrière Grand Père , Forgeron classé " Hors concours " du meilleur ouvrier de France , tous métiers confondus , en ces années là .. Les Grilles du jardin de Mouveaux ( Ville de l' agglomération Lilloise 59 ) , sont l' une de ses Œuvres en Fer Forgé .. Elles étaient encore présentes , dans ma jeunesse , peut être le sont elles toujours .. Pour ma part , je sais juste braser et souder au poste oxydo' acétylène & au poste électrique .. Des Géants qui passent en noir & blanc .. nous sommes bien petits , face à cette " Trempe " ( à l' eau ou l' huile ;) ) d' Hommes là ..
@krysdave22057 жыл бұрын
You can see the pride in these men's faces, some of them would have been born in the first half of the 19th century, seeing that they would be immortalized through the new magic of film.
@althesmith7 жыл бұрын
What you see here, is the proud of worker who are happy to share, show and demonstrate their tallent.
@anarcat66533 жыл бұрын
@@anarcat6653 These were men.
@althesmith3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, of course, and also workers. Good ones as we can see.
@anarcat66533 жыл бұрын
No wasted blows, no wasted motion. Masters of the craft. You could take a Japanese master bladesmith, a Malaysian Empu or one of the Merovingian masters of pattern-welding and in spite of no common language they would be completely at home in that shop with these men in 5 minutes.
@althesmith7 жыл бұрын
a perfect observation. Blacksmithing is a world of its own and has its own language that uses more than just words to be spoken. To understand blacksmithing, you must become one. Only then can we be understood.
@alaskanfrogman5 жыл бұрын
true masters, but sadly disepering with time ... I Have stil 3 barrels from them, Damascus barrels so to say.
@didierhenry13 жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 :Just one word ... WOW !
@TomKappeln Жыл бұрын
@@TomKappeln sometimes I wish I could learn from them, so interrested ...
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
Des vrais ouvriers avec du savoir faire, sans de grands moyens d'automatisations, Bravo
@rudy60473 жыл бұрын
This is gold...the art is dying only few blacksmith and gunsmith had this knowledge
@kaederukawa81783 жыл бұрын
C'est tout bonnement magnifique ! Je suppose que les fusils de cette qualité étaient destinés à une clientèle fortunée. Une arme de l'époque avec un canon damassé ça doit couter cher aujourd'hui. Je suis intéressé par les armes depuis toujours j'ai été visiter des collections avec des armes incroyables, de la précision, des gravures, ce sont des artistes...
@georgesdelfosse4077 Жыл бұрын
superbe image d'époque et du savoir faire que plus personne ne voudrait reproduire tellement c'est long et quelle beau travail final !!! juste un dernier mot !! tout simplement MAGNIFIQUE !!
@patrickrichard19668 жыл бұрын
Des fois je me demandes si il ne faudrais pas réessayer cette manière de construction avec un zest de technologie d'aujourd'hui !!!!!
@didierhenry18 жыл бұрын
C'est long mais un fusil (et la plupart des autres outils) faisait plusieurs générations.
@europeansovietunion73724 жыл бұрын
KZhead est un océan de bêtises. Et parfois des trésors comme ce témoignage de l'intelligence intellectuelle et manuelle, apparaît. Merci pour ce précieux partage.
@happyculteur50212 жыл бұрын
Heureux de savoir que cela vous plait, la maîtrise de ces hommes c'est fou !!!
@didierhenry12 жыл бұрын
Damasquinage en plein et quel savoir-faire! MAGNIFIQUE document ! Merci pour nous avoir fait partager ce film... il donne plein d'idées car je pense qu'après des décennies d'oublis .... il y a un intérêt pour un savoir-faire oublié et qui peut se redécouvrir par la recherche de documents et des essais personnels; ce n'est pas "réinventez la roue" mais bien la redécouverte de véritables trésors!
@Richard224445 жыл бұрын
Salut Rick, des machines ces hommes, ca donne certainement envie d'essayer.
@didierhenry15 жыл бұрын
The amount of labor required to fabricate those barrels was truly astounding. At the time that Parker considered making them in the U.S., Belgian metal smiths were paid approx. 11 cents/hr. vs 35 cents/hr in the U.S. so they abandoned the effort despite the protective tariffs.
@wholeNwon5 жыл бұрын
This is simply amazing and a gem of a documentary! The craftsmanship and work put into these barrels! The detailed patterns that were visible in the film! How I wish to revive this art
@Tsudoshi09 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic for two reasons: The history preserved here and …… after seven years the presenter is still responding to comments. Cheers mate.
@johnmartlew5 ай бұрын
It's my pleasure 👍👍👍, cheers to you too
@didierhenry15 ай бұрын
merci d'avoir publier ce précieux documentaire.
@MOfrhr6 жыл бұрын
merci pour ce trésor historique sur le savoir faire de nos anciens dont nous n'arrivons pas à la cheville malgrés nos nouvelles technologie!!!
@jeanmartox35703 жыл бұрын
et pourtant moi perso cela metanterai d'essayer !!!
@didierhenry13 жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 je me suis essayé à la forge et c'est un travail fabuleux mais pour arriver à ce niveau là il faut etre née dedans!! bien à vous!
@jeanmartox35703 жыл бұрын
@@jeanmartox3570 , les personnes dans le film étaient des parents, je devrais pouvoir cercher dans mes gènes....Bien à vous aussi, merci.
@didierhenry13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! My grandfather told me about this technique, a very long time ago! 73' from BRASIL
@py2rpjrubens4502 жыл бұрын
you are welkome
@didierhenry12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting us enjoy this film.
@craigguilmet6282 Жыл бұрын
no problem, glad that some can enjoy seeing this way of working 👍
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
merci de nous faire voir cela . un régal des yeux
@cromagnonneandertal6532 Жыл бұрын
Avec plaisir, fou comment ils ont travaillé !!
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
I shoot with a Charles Boswell side lock ejector with Damascus barrels reproofed nitro. A shear joy to use and a beautiful piece of fine craftsmanship. It’s amazing how many people are not aware of this type of barrel manufacture and history.
@stephenloquens7964 Жыл бұрын
How could they be so accurate in there work, crazy !!!
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
Deux fois visionné Deux fois bleuffé Merci pour ce trésor
@-LeClown6 ай бұрын
Fait plaisir 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@didierhenry16 ай бұрын
@@didierhenry1 Il est rare de voire des vidéo pédagogique de notre passé. Celle ci est vraiment top On mesure l'ambiance, le savoir faire et la dureté de cette vie 👍
@-LeClown6 ай бұрын
@@-LeClown les gens endurcis
@didierhenry16 ай бұрын
Nobody's hair survived back in those days. I wouldn't want to arm wrestle any of these guys that's for sure.
@alanrogs3990 Жыл бұрын
This is a superb historical document! Coming from a long line of blacksmiths (I'm also a craftsman), as well as being a clay shooter for 25 years, I truly appreciate this. I live near Birmingham, England, which was once the world centre for sporting gun production. Obviously, the skills used were quite common 100 years ago, but so very very rare now.
@chrisjohnson41654 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing about it being so historical. In some spots it's so dark it was almost lost forever it seems. That would have been a shame.
@alanrogs3990 Жыл бұрын
excellent stuff..
@theskincartridge12342 жыл бұрын
Notice @18:07 the smith is using a WWI German Mauser bayonet to remove scale from the work.
@chapiit087 жыл бұрын
Multi tasking tools !
@didierhenry17 жыл бұрын
Hopefully films such as this will keep the art-form alive. Thank you. Narragansett Bay
@jebsails28376 ай бұрын
What amazing footage, I wish my Lothar-Walther barrels were that pretty.
@BunnyR135 ай бұрын
So beautifull perfect.
@pietergroot1562 жыл бұрын
I bet those MEN had no problem sleeping. Absolutely amazing video...thank you!
@usnchief13392 жыл бұрын
They also did not know about burn out en depression, you are most welcome, facinating to me !
@didierhenry12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, that was very interesting.
@465maltbie9 жыл бұрын
Left me feeling quite sad. Skills that don't exist anymore. A lot of impressive mustaches
@greggoodes6 ай бұрын
Interesantisimo, verdaderos maestros artesanos, lo que no daría por aprender de ellos.
@guillermogonzalez4675 Жыл бұрын
Excelente documento. Que maestría. Me encantó el flaco de la pipa.
@mauricioandolini26143 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this footage of a time long gone. I could almost smell the burning coke and hear the hammering on the anvil. I doubt there is a single man in the world today capable of making something like what these craftsmen made back then.
@chapiit088 жыл бұрын
+chapiit08 haha, there are people out there who can still forge just as well, if not better. Check out these swords; they are traditionally handmade blades using pattern welding techniques with amazingly beautiful steel and hilts. Extremely complex, gorgeous, and dangerous swords. templ.net/english/weapons-antiquity_and_early_middle_age.php#152-sword
@Bear_Feces8 жыл бұрын
Ryan Hobbs You are right Ryan. I'm aware of some bladesmiths forging damascus steel, and also the craftsmen who occassionally forge a barrel or two, I didn't express myself properly. And thanks for the info.
@chapiit088 жыл бұрын
And they write theyr Names in the Damast? For get it, JUST FORGET IT, or show it to me. This Quality of Craftsman is dead. Probably for ever! I hope that i am wrong.
@71TOXIC7 жыл бұрын
@@71TOXIC through the same process no, but through another sure.
@andrewyork38692 жыл бұрын
I have an A Nestor of Limerick side by side Damascus ribbon twist hammer shotgun , 30 inch barrels , 12g and I have never seen how they were forged . I appreciated what I have and because it’s pre 1880s I only shoot black powder and lead solid brass cartridges through it . It’s very dark in that forge too . Lost art or extinct process . I enjoyed watching that , thank you .
@nikitamckeever5403 Жыл бұрын
You are welcome, i have onlawys wondered why i was atracted to steel, withpout being a magnet, it must be somwhere in my genes, only some people could be able at this day to perform like they did, incredible workers. It's my proud and pleasure to share this movie .
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 thanks again 😁
@nikitamckeever5403 Жыл бұрын
Incredible skill and teamwork; true mastery of a specialized blacksmithing process.
@addisondelisle66067 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to find and buy an old Damascus shotgun.
@alanrogs3990 Жыл бұрын
Dommage que ca n'existe plus. Cétais un métier exeptionnel dans le province de Liege.
@guyvossen16407 ай бұрын
Моя повага цим ковалям.Я сам іноді займаюся слюсарною справою,заради задоволення, і те що я побачив вражає.
@George_Doc7 ай бұрын
Merci pour le reportage ...
@SLOSKY8 жыл бұрын
extra ce film, merci pour ce partage 🤩👍
@retroviseur5301 Жыл бұрын
pas de quoi ! Dingue comment ils travaillaient !
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
trop cool 🤩tu ma mis des étoiles dans les yeux un savoir faire perdu 😞en plus il y avait un coté déco que les armes modérne on plus ,ou alors ca cote un bras,merci pour ce doc exceptoinnel un vrais plaisir pour les collectionneurs❤ tu a un nouveau abonné😁A+
@retroviseur5301 Жыл бұрын
@@retroviseur5301 Ca fait plaisir de fair plaisir, je possède encor 3 de ces cannos Damas, ils sont en piteux état, et je ne sais pas comment je pourais les conserver et arrêter leur oxidation....
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 tout depend de leurs états apres il faut les traité a l'antirouille il y a plein de marque en vente sur le net ou une petite hidrólise,puis un pti traitement mais bon si il son mort, c'est mort!! domage😡"déco"
@retroviseur5301 Жыл бұрын
@@retroviseur5301 ils sont tous les 3 noir et s'éffrtitent 😭, donc morts ...
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@manbearpig21646 жыл бұрын
You are watching some serious labor...Least of which May be the filming But, You can rest assured this photographers arm was worn out from cranking that camera. Edit... Ok, I have seen some beautiful and complicated Damascus pieces but, I mean.. Le Z'enobe Gramme in a ribbon, within a ribbon, wrapped into a barrel is just, well.. Damn Impressive.
@redneckhippiefreak6 ай бұрын
Wrote about doing a similar process in a fictional context. Some thoughts: 1) the reason twisting, etc is done is that the original material was *carburized Wrought Iron,* which usually has a lot of slag and other impurities. The twisting, piling, etc. helps get them out of the metal. 2) this also achieves better homogeneity, *if it is done with sufficient care.*
@dennisyoung46317 ай бұрын
Thx for the information.
@didierhenry17 ай бұрын
Very cool video!
@kenhelmers26036 жыл бұрын
I have an old one in my shed I often wondered how it was made, brilliant film.
@bibzo17 ай бұрын
Me too a have 3 cannons from these man, and time is eating them quietly but surely
@didierhenry17 ай бұрын
Very Nice, i make Damascus and found This video very informative to see how to make a spiral welded barrel, one of my future projects. Forging a name in the pattern (how to do it) remains a secret i guess. Awesome skills these people had. Thanks
@ballsflying8 жыл бұрын
wat do you make for Damascus, any pics or films ?
@didierhenry18 жыл бұрын
my guess is that the name was an "end on" method, similar to the mosaic patterns. Make the billet and then cut it into lengths and weld side by side . Same way one makes inlay banding for furniture. Damascusknowledge.com has some information about "end on' patterns
@EGCblackknight6 жыл бұрын
Si por favor pudiera alguien poner subtítulos en español; a mis casi setenta años, me quedado impresionado con semejante documental. Muchas gracias al responsable. Mis saludos.
@SrAlmadenejos7 ай бұрын
Buenas tardes buscaré a ver si es posible tener subtítulo en español, no prometo nada, estoy intentando encontrarlo. Que tengas un buen día y espero poder ayudarte.
@didierhenry17 ай бұрын
Nous vous remercions de votre vidéo est très bonne ce document historique.
@kanionargentina41577 жыл бұрын
C'est avec plaisir !
@didierhenry17 жыл бұрын
Que maravilla de trabajo ojala lo aigan transmitido a sus decendientes
@ginoescamilla26568 ай бұрын
La clave es la paciencia y la gestión
@didierhenry18 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this. My great grandfather passed down a barrel with "Canon damas turc de paris" written in gold inlay that he found in a creek bed in West TX. I still live on his homestead, and wonder how this made it all the way out here.
@troyrinehart989 Жыл бұрын
Wauw with gold inlay, even more difficult to make i think. I have got 3 barrels from these guys, great grandfather, the barrels are flocking off and I have no idea how I could stop this occidation proces, before they cramble down completely , have you any idea how i could protect them ?
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 Depending on the level of deterioration would determine how I would try to preserve them. I used gun oil for years, applied just the same as I would on one of my firearms to prevent rust. Recently I applied CLP which contains silicone, looks to be working. Looks like we both inherited from our great grandfathers which is unique.
@troyrinehart989 Жыл бұрын
@@troyrinehart989 too bad they couldn't teach me their knoledge 😒
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 I agree completely. So interested in the technique. A lost art to say the least.
@troyrinehart989 Жыл бұрын
😉👍🤙👌
@olivierlemoine8677 ай бұрын
Passionnant et étrange de voir des morts revivrent et nous en apprendre ! La musique d'accompagnement est bien trop pompeuse et ne colle pas au sujet ; ce qui ajoute un côté déconnecté et froid ! Tout, absolument tout sent la poussière et la cave humide .J'adore !
@Richard224444 жыл бұрын
Ils ont amené leur savoir avec eux ❤❤❤❤
@michelmoreau-dc3gq6 ай бұрын
I saw an primitive American way to make gun barrels, different. They pledge an pletine al long, and solder it itself by beat it white color hot Seems in a city Whilliamsburg on US( I cant remember exactly) Both procedures very interestings!
@christianvalenzuela2256 ай бұрын
It would be difficult to make the barrels today, it would be too expansive.... but what a way of working it was ....
@didierhenry16 ай бұрын
Merci pour votre vidéo ce document historique est très bon
@HuseyinYalcnkaya5 жыл бұрын
C'est avec plaisir, merci pour votre commentaire
@didierhenry15 жыл бұрын
Hombre moderno..........no sabés nada de la vida!!!
@DanielMorales-zq1xn Жыл бұрын
Incredible....
@iacomastro6 жыл бұрын
That was amazing is all i can say
@comancherocha70133 жыл бұрын
Neat, fun to see how much labor went into it and how inefficient the process was, it truely had to be a labor of love to male them like this instead of more efficient means.
@jordanhicks51313 жыл бұрын
The war would have been over by the time those guns were ready!
@Super2419463 жыл бұрын
Inefficient! I never saw a wasted hammer strike , it shows just how ignorant "modern man" is when he sees this ultra efficient process as inefficient, no power tools were used in this manufacture, and the result was a very strong gun barrel that surpassed the bored tube available at the time.
@453421abcdefg123457 ай бұрын
@@Super241946 The barrels were not used in weapons of war, they were for fine sporting arms.
@453421abcdefg123457 ай бұрын
One would think that this way was the harder way to forge a barrel, but in fact was the easier.
@kilnrargentina39553 жыл бұрын
👉💯💯👍
@lalonexus306 ай бұрын
Bizjzonder interessante video over een helaas bijna uitgestorven ambacht. Veel respect heb ik voor de vaardigheden van deze mensen, maar wat een armoede zie je in de beelden.
@franswaardef47097 ай бұрын
Het klopt armoede was er zeker, en toch hebben ze duizenden, als het niet meer is, lopen gesmede daar in Nessonvaux. Ze wiste toen ook niet beter denk ik.
@didierhenry17 ай бұрын
You are welcome, pas de quoi ... Partage d'images de famille, sharing family pictures...
@didierhenry18 жыл бұрын
A consulter par tous les amateurs de borax qui prônent que c'est impossible de souder du damas sans cette poudre.
@sergeturberg49848 жыл бұрын
Votre commentaire est époustouflant de vérité !
@Richard224445 жыл бұрын
Je pense que c'est plus necessaire aujourd'hui que a ce temps-la, parce-que l'acier maintenant a beaucoups des autres elements pour alliages.
@althesmith3 жыл бұрын
+Alec Steele since you love damascus so much, make a set of shutgun barrels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@robroy57295 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see him use an old bayonet near the end of forging
@redcruben6 ай бұрын
Au delà de la vidéo, l'on a du mal à s'imaginer, les efforts et la dextérité qu'il faut pour forger un canon damas à la main. 18:06 il me semble reconnaître l'outil avec lequel le maître forgeron gratte les scories, c'est une baïonnette mauser 98 de 14-18. 19:40 en arrière plan, d'immenses meules pour l'affûtage Jean Delcour-Dupont (18..-1931), Maître canonnier, à Fraipont-Nessonvaux (commune Belge), puis à Liège.
@mail9353 Жыл бұрын
Tout à fait, l'atelier se touvait à Nessonvaux, je ne sais pas si les maisonettes existent toujours...
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 Désolé, je ne peux répondre, car je demeure sur Paris, espérons que cela ne soit pas comme chez nous, car l'on fout tout en l'air de nos jours, même notre patrimoine historique, c'est ainsi, malheureusement... Cependant, afin d'avoir un visu du lieu, essayez de faire une recherche sur google earth ou google map, en utilisant la fonction 'street view', via l'icone mobile, en forme de petit bonhomme jaune, qui permet de se déplacer dans les rues de nos villes.
@mail9353 Жыл бұрын
Que coisa mis linda, que conhecimento de forja conhecimentos que se perderam !!!
@stoesselvarginha456 Жыл бұрын
Eu não diria imediatamente que está completamente perdido, ainda há algumas pessoas que ainda podem fazer isso, espero!
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
Klompen Dutch wooden safety shoes and are today even used they are just as strong as steel nose shoes even allowed by the safety rules in our country
@JJ-rc4sc6 жыл бұрын
thank you so very much.
@daleglastonbury964 жыл бұрын
Glad to share , no problem
@didierhenry14 жыл бұрын
И под каждую операцию своя наковальня. Н чего себе
@user-rm8hz4lj4i6 ай бұрын
Vraiment un superbe reportage... De quelle année date t'il ? Vers 1900 ?.... Les forgerons étaient des artistes....
@danielruche96423 жыл бұрын
Oui, du debut 1900... dingue les mecs.
@didierhenry13 жыл бұрын
Bonjour à tous et merci pour ce beau reportage... Sans être désobligeant, pourquoi sous-titrer en langue anglaise alors que, s'agissant de notre patrimoine wallon, peu de mots sont utilisés en français ? Cordialement.
@charlesgreco51797 ай бұрын
Bien le bonjour, trés bonne question á laquelle je ne saurait répondre, je crois que comme L'anglais est une langue que presque tout le monde parle. Et donc comme ça il y aura plus de personnes qui comprendront et qui captureront le message ... bien à vous.
@didierhenry17 ай бұрын
Wallonia hasn’t changed much since then …
@MyTubeSVp6 ай бұрын
Fatigant, mais formidable
@saidovbouhada64853 жыл бұрын
moi cela me plairait de savoir faire comme eux ...
@didierhenry13 жыл бұрын
Waiting for more relative video
@rajababuverma13254 жыл бұрын
This is the one and only movie i have ....
@didierhenry14 жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 ok
@rajababuverma13254 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy to think that most of these old smithing techniques cannot be used on modern steel because it’s *too pure* and doesn’t have the natural “contaminants” like silicon and phosphorus that make this type of ironwork possible - and even give it a degree of corrosion resistance.
@JAllenKaiser5 ай бұрын
As a practicing blacksmith, I feel compelled to mention that this is not at all true. Every technique used in this video is applicable to modern steel as well as they rely on properties inherent to iron and steel as a whole. Pattern welding/damascus is in fact still done exactly this way, by stacking different grades of steel and forge welding them together. Modern steel also isn't "too pure", it is simply much more consistent. Manufacturers can closely control which impurities are present in steel and how much of it, and many are readily added to some grades if steel to improve its qualities like toughness, corrosion resistance, and hardenability. The main change from the time of this film to now is that the production and use of wrought iron has generally stopped, as it was replaced by much more cost effective Mild Steel. Wrought iron had some unique qualities including extraordinary corrosion resistance compared to mass produced steel, but this was largely a result of how it was made (which involved a laborious and very expensive process compared to steel). At any rate, all the metal used for these gun barrels was likely already sonewhat modern steel by that time, as wrought iron is a much worse material for this application.
@karukurokami5 ай бұрын
I love how people used to just stop whatever they were doing and just solemnly stare at the camera guy. I wish people still did that.
@shlamimk46646 ай бұрын
ces gens avaient un savoir faire incroyable , perdu maintenant
J'ai regardé votre reportage avec une humilité immense. J'ai pris conscience de mon incompétence et surtout de la désinvolture de ceux qui savent tout. Votre reportage est un trésor, mille fois merci.
A fantastic glimpse of past skills, modern man thinks he knows everything, but he could not even begin to do what these people are doing as an everyday job, the sad thing is we are constantly told by ignorant media that all the superb guns that relied on these skills should be destroyed, whereas they should be considered along with the highest forms of art. Chris B.
I agree, the skill and beauty of these firearms is mind boggling.
I totally agree with you.
Eu concordo plenamente com você, fantástico feito primitivo de armas, hoje temos tudo em tecnologia e achamos saber algo, maldito presidente aqui do Brasil hoje em 2003 distraiu muitas armas, distraindo a história de cada uma, maldito fala de democracia mas esquerdista só apoia bandido da raça dele...
Your an ignorant child if you think man hasn't progressed little middle class boy, plenty of working class people do back breaking work in the western world,wait a few years till you have a considered option before posting again boy and till then be quiet 🤫 all the best from sunny Scotland
Hard way of making a living
Being a welder for 50 years I can't get over they are doing all their work with white hot steel/iron without gloves! Not to mention no glasses for their eyes. I have always liked Damascus and those shown are really nice. Thanks to the poster of this.
Merci pour cette Vidéo .! J' ai eu le frère de mon arrière Grand Père , Forgeron classé " Hors concours " du meilleur ouvrier de France , tous métiers confondus , en ces années là .. Les Grilles du jardin de Mouveaux ( Ville de l' agglomération Lilloise 59 ) , sont l' une de ses Œuvres en Fer Forgé .. Elles étaient encore présentes , dans ma jeunesse , peut être le sont elles toujours .. Pour ma part , je sais juste braser et souder au poste oxydo' acétylène & au poste électrique .. Des Géants qui passent en noir & blanc .. nous sommes bien petits , face à cette " Trempe " ( à l' eau ou l' huile ;) ) d' Hommes là ..
You can see the pride in these men's faces, some of them would have been born in the first half of the 19th century, seeing that they would be immortalized through the new magic of film.
What you see here, is the proud of worker who are happy to share, show and demonstrate their tallent.
@@anarcat6653 These were men.
Yeah, of course, and also workers. Good ones as we can see.
No wasted blows, no wasted motion. Masters of the craft. You could take a Japanese master bladesmith, a Malaysian Empu or one of the Merovingian masters of pattern-welding and in spite of no common language they would be completely at home in that shop with these men in 5 minutes.
a perfect observation. Blacksmithing is a world of its own and has its own language that uses more than just words to be spoken. To understand blacksmithing, you must become one. Only then can we be understood.
true masters, but sadly disepering with time ... I Have stil 3 barrels from them, Damascus barrels so to say.
@@didierhenry1 :Just one word ... WOW !
@@TomKappeln sometimes I wish I could learn from them, so interrested ...
Des vrais ouvriers avec du savoir faire, sans de grands moyens d'automatisations, Bravo
This is gold...the art is dying only few blacksmith and gunsmith had this knowledge
C'est tout bonnement magnifique ! Je suppose que les fusils de cette qualité étaient destinés à une clientèle fortunée. Une arme de l'époque avec un canon damassé ça doit couter cher aujourd'hui. Je suis intéressé par les armes depuis toujours j'ai été visiter des collections avec des armes incroyables, de la précision, des gravures, ce sont des artistes...
superbe image d'époque et du savoir faire que plus personne ne voudrait reproduire tellement c'est long et quelle beau travail final !!! juste un dernier mot !! tout simplement MAGNIFIQUE !!
Des fois je me demandes si il ne faudrais pas réessayer cette manière de construction avec un zest de technologie d'aujourd'hui !!!!!
C'est long mais un fusil (et la plupart des autres outils) faisait plusieurs générations.
KZhead est un océan de bêtises. Et parfois des trésors comme ce témoignage de l'intelligence intellectuelle et manuelle, apparaît. Merci pour ce précieux partage.
Heureux de savoir que cela vous plait, la maîtrise de ces hommes c'est fou !!!
Damasquinage en plein et quel savoir-faire! MAGNIFIQUE document ! Merci pour nous avoir fait partager ce film... il donne plein d'idées car je pense qu'après des décennies d'oublis .... il y a un intérêt pour un savoir-faire oublié et qui peut se redécouvrir par la recherche de documents et des essais personnels; ce n'est pas "réinventez la roue" mais bien la redécouverte de véritables trésors!
Salut Rick, des machines ces hommes, ca donne certainement envie d'essayer.
The amount of labor required to fabricate those barrels was truly astounding. At the time that Parker considered making them in the U.S., Belgian metal smiths were paid approx. 11 cents/hr. vs 35 cents/hr in the U.S. so they abandoned the effort despite the protective tariffs.
This is simply amazing and a gem of a documentary! The craftsmanship and work put into these barrels! The detailed patterns that were visible in the film! How I wish to revive this art
Fantastic for two reasons: The history preserved here and …… after seven years the presenter is still responding to comments. Cheers mate.
It's my pleasure 👍👍👍, cheers to you too
merci d'avoir publier ce précieux documentaire.
merci pour ce trésor historique sur le savoir faire de nos anciens dont nous n'arrivons pas à la cheville malgrés nos nouvelles technologie!!!
et pourtant moi perso cela metanterai d'essayer !!!
@@didierhenry1 je me suis essayé à la forge et c'est un travail fabuleux mais pour arriver à ce niveau là il faut etre née dedans!! bien à vous!
@@jeanmartox3570 , les personnes dans le film étaient des parents, je devrais pouvoir cercher dans mes gènes....Bien à vous aussi, merci.
Thanks for sharing! My grandfather told me about this technique, a very long time ago! 73' from BRASIL
you are welkome
Thank you for letting us enjoy this film.
no problem, glad that some can enjoy seeing this way of working 👍
merci de nous faire voir cela . un régal des yeux
Avec plaisir, fou comment ils ont travaillé !!
I shoot with a Charles Boswell side lock ejector with Damascus barrels reproofed nitro. A shear joy to use and a beautiful piece of fine craftsmanship. It’s amazing how many people are not aware of this type of barrel manufacture and history.
How could they be so accurate in there work, crazy !!!
Deux fois visionné Deux fois bleuffé Merci pour ce trésor
Fait plaisir 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@didierhenry1 Il est rare de voire des vidéo pédagogique de notre passé. Celle ci est vraiment top On mesure l'ambiance, le savoir faire et la dureté de cette vie 👍
@@-LeClown les gens endurcis
Nobody's hair survived back in those days. I wouldn't want to arm wrestle any of these guys that's for sure.
This is a superb historical document! Coming from a long line of blacksmiths (I'm also a craftsman), as well as being a clay shooter for 25 years, I truly appreciate this. I live near Birmingham, England, which was once the world centre for sporting gun production. Obviously, the skills used were quite common 100 years ago, but so very very rare now.
I was thinking the same thing about it being so historical. In some spots it's so dark it was almost lost forever it seems. That would have been a shame.
excellent stuff..
Notice @18:07 the smith is using a WWI German Mauser bayonet to remove scale from the work.
Multi tasking tools !
Hopefully films such as this will keep the art-form alive. Thank you. Narragansett Bay
What amazing footage, I wish my Lothar-Walther barrels were that pretty.
So beautifull perfect.
I bet those MEN had no problem sleeping. Absolutely amazing video...thank you!
They also did not know about burn out en depression, you are most welcome, facinating to me !
Thanks for sharing, that was very interesting.
Left me feeling quite sad. Skills that don't exist anymore. A lot of impressive mustaches
Interesantisimo, verdaderos maestros artesanos, lo que no daría por aprender de ellos.
Excelente documento. Que maestría. Me encantó el flaco de la pipa.
Thank you for sharing this footage of a time long gone. I could almost smell the burning coke and hear the hammering on the anvil. I doubt there is a single man in the world today capable of making something like what these craftsmen made back then.
+chapiit08 haha, there are people out there who can still forge just as well, if not better. Check out these swords; they are traditionally handmade blades using pattern welding techniques with amazingly beautiful steel and hilts. Extremely complex, gorgeous, and dangerous swords. templ.net/english/weapons-antiquity_and_early_middle_age.php#152-sword
Ryan Hobbs You are right Ryan. I'm aware of some bladesmiths forging damascus steel, and also the craftsmen who occassionally forge a barrel or two, I didn't express myself properly. And thanks for the info.
And they write theyr Names in the Damast? For get it, JUST FORGET IT, or show it to me. This Quality of Craftsman is dead. Probably for ever! I hope that i am wrong.
@@71TOXIC through the same process no, but through another sure.
I have an A Nestor of Limerick side by side Damascus ribbon twist hammer shotgun , 30 inch barrels , 12g and I have never seen how they were forged . I appreciated what I have and because it’s pre 1880s I only shoot black powder and lead solid brass cartridges through it . It’s very dark in that forge too . Lost art or extinct process . I enjoyed watching that , thank you .
You are welcome, i have onlawys wondered why i was atracted to steel, withpout being a magnet, it must be somwhere in my genes, only some people could be able at this day to perform like they did, incredible workers. It's my proud and pleasure to share this movie .
@@didierhenry1 thanks again 😁
Incredible skill and teamwork; true mastery of a specialized blacksmithing process.
Makes me want to find and buy an old Damascus shotgun.
Dommage que ca n'existe plus. Cétais un métier exeptionnel dans le province de Liege.
Моя повага цим ковалям.Я сам іноді займаюся слюсарною справою,заради задоволення, і те що я побачив вражає.
Merci pour le reportage ...
extra ce film, merci pour ce partage 🤩👍
pas de quoi ! Dingue comment ils travaillaient !
trop cool 🤩tu ma mis des étoiles dans les yeux un savoir faire perdu 😞en plus il y avait un coté déco que les armes modérne on plus ,ou alors ca cote un bras,merci pour ce doc exceptoinnel un vrais plaisir pour les collectionneurs❤ tu a un nouveau abonné😁A+
@@retroviseur5301 Ca fait plaisir de fair plaisir, je possède encor 3 de ces cannos Damas, ils sont en piteux état, et je ne sais pas comment je pourais les conserver et arrêter leur oxidation....
@@didierhenry1 tout depend de leurs états apres il faut les traité a l'antirouille il y a plein de marque en vente sur le net ou une petite hidrólise,puis un pti traitement mais bon si il son mort, c'est mort!! domage😡"déco"
@@retroviseur5301 ils sont tous les 3 noir et s'éffrtitent 😭, donc morts ...
Awesome video
You are watching some serious labor...Least of which May be the filming But, You can rest assured this photographers arm was worn out from cranking that camera. Edit... Ok, I have seen some beautiful and complicated Damascus pieces but, I mean.. Le Z'enobe Gramme in a ribbon, within a ribbon, wrapped into a barrel is just, well.. Damn Impressive.
Wrote about doing a similar process in a fictional context. Some thoughts: 1) the reason twisting, etc is done is that the original material was *carburized Wrought Iron,* which usually has a lot of slag and other impurities. The twisting, piling, etc. helps get them out of the metal. 2) this also achieves better homogeneity, *if it is done with sufficient care.*
Thx for the information.
Very cool video!
I have an old one in my shed I often wondered how it was made, brilliant film.
Me too a have 3 cannons from these man, and time is eating them quietly but surely
Very Nice, i make Damascus and found This video very informative to see how to make a spiral welded barrel, one of my future projects. Forging a name in the pattern (how to do it) remains a secret i guess. Awesome skills these people had. Thanks
wat do you make for Damascus, any pics or films ?
my guess is that the name was an "end on" method, similar to the mosaic patterns. Make the billet and then cut it into lengths and weld side by side . Same way one makes inlay banding for furniture. Damascusknowledge.com has some information about "end on' patterns
Si por favor pudiera alguien poner subtítulos en español; a mis casi setenta años, me quedado impresionado con semejante documental. Muchas gracias al responsable. Mis saludos.
Buenas tardes buscaré a ver si es posible tener subtítulo en español, no prometo nada, estoy intentando encontrarlo. Que tengas un buen día y espero poder ayudarte.
Nous vous remercions de votre vidéo est très bonne ce document historique.
C'est avec plaisir !
Que maravilla de trabajo ojala lo aigan transmitido a sus decendientes
La clave es la paciencia y la gestión
I really enjoyed this. My great grandfather passed down a barrel with "Canon damas turc de paris" written in gold inlay that he found in a creek bed in West TX. I still live on his homestead, and wonder how this made it all the way out here.
Wauw with gold inlay, even more difficult to make i think. I have got 3 barrels from these guys, great grandfather, the barrels are flocking off and I have no idea how I could stop this occidation proces, before they cramble down completely , have you any idea how i could protect them ?
@@didierhenry1 Depending on the level of deterioration would determine how I would try to preserve them. I used gun oil for years, applied just the same as I would on one of my firearms to prevent rust. Recently I applied CLP which contains silicone, looks to be working. Looks like we both inherited from our great grandfathers which is unique.
@@troyrinehart989 too bad they couldn't teach me their knoledge 😒
@@didierhenry1 I agree completely. So interested in the technique. A lost art to say the least.
😉👍🤙👌
Passionnant et étrange de voir des morts revivrent et nous en apprendre ! La musique d'accompagnement est bien trop pompeuse et ne colle pas au sujet ; ce qui ajoute un côté déconnecté et froid ! Tout, absolument tout sent la poussière et la cave humide .J'adore !
Ils ont amené leur savoir avec eux ❤❤❤❤
I saw an primitive American way to make gun barrels, different. They pledge an pletine al long, and solder it itself by beat it white color hot Seems in a city Whilliamsburg on US( I cant remember exactly) Both procedures very interestings!
It would be difficult to make the barrels today, it would be too expansive.... but what a way of working it was ....
Merci pour votre vidéo ce document historique est très bon
C'est avec plaisir, merci pour votre commentaire
Hombre moderno..........no sabés nada de la vida!!!
Incredible....
That was amazing is all i can say
Neat, fun to see how much labor went into it and how inefficient the process was, it truely had to be a labor of love to male them like this instead of more efficient means.
The war would have been over by the time those guns were ready!
Inefficient! I never saw a wasted hammer strike , it shows just how ignorant "modern man" is when he sees this ultra efficient process as inefficient, no power tools were used in this manufacture, and the result was a very strong gun barrel that surpassed the bored tube available at the time.
@@Super241946 The barrels were not used in weapons of war, they were for fine sporting arms.
One would think that this way was the harder way to forge a barrel, but in fact was the easier.
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Bizjzonder interessante video over een helaas bijna uitgestorven ambacht. Veel respect heb ik voor de vaardigheden van deze mensen, maar wat een armoede zie je in de beelden.
Het klopt armoede was er zeker, en toch hebben ze duizenden, als het niet meer is, lopen gesmede daar in Nessonvaux. Ze wiste toen ook niet beter denk ik.
You are welcome, pas de quoi ... Partage d'images de famille, sharing family pictures...
A consulter par tous les amateurs de borax qui prônent que c'est impossible de souder du damas sans cette poudre.
Votre commentaire est époustouflant de vérité !
Je pense que c'est plus necessaire aujourd'hui que a ce temps-la, parce-que l'acier maintenant a beaucoups des autres elements pour alliages.
+Alec Steele since you love damascus so much, make a set of shutgun barrels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting to see him use an old bayonet near the end of forging
Au delà de la vidéo, l'on a du mal à s'imaginer, les efforts et la dextérité qu'il faut pour forger un canon damas à la main. 18:06 il me semble reconnaître l'outil avec lequel le maître forgeron gratte les scories, c'est une baïonnette mauser 98 de 14-18. 19:40 en arrière plan, d'immenses meules pour l'affûtage Jean Delcour-Dupont (18..-1931), Maître canonnier, à Fraipont-Nessonvaux (commune Belge), puis à Liège.
Tout à fait, l'atelier se touvait à Nessonvaux, je ne sais pas si les maisonettes existent toujours...
@@didierhenry1 Désolé, je ne peux répondre, car je demeure sur Paris, espérons que cela ne soit pas comme chez nous, car l'on fout tout en l'air de nos jours, même notre patrimoine historique, c'est ainsi, malheureusement... Cependant, afin d'avoir un visu du lieu, essayez de faire une recherche sur google earth ou google map, en utilisant la fonction 'street view', via l'icone mobile, en forme de petit bonhomme jaune, qui permet de se déplacer dans les rues de nos villes.
Que coisa mis linda, que conhecimento de forja conhecimentos que se perderam !!!
Eu não diria imediatamente que está completamente perdido, ainda há algumas pessoas que ainda podem fazer isso, espero!
Klompen Dutch wooden safety shoes and are today even used they are just as strong as steel nose shoes even allowed by the safety rules in our country
thank you so very much.
Glad to share , no problem
И под каждую операцию своя наковальня. Н чего себе
Vraiment un superbe reportage... De quelle année date t'il ? Vers 1900 ?.... Les forgerons étaient des artistes....
Oui, du debut 1900... dingue les mecs.
Bonjour à tous et merci pour ce beau reportage... Sans être désobligeant, pourquoi sous-titrer en langue anglaise alors que, s'agissant de notre patrimoine wallon, peu de mots sont utilisés en français ? Cordialement.
Bien le bonjour, trés bonne question á laquelle je ne saurait répondre, je crois que comme L'anglais est une langue que presque tout le monde parle. Et donc comme ça il y aura plus de personnes qui comprendront et qui captureront le message ... bien à vous.
Wallonia hasn’t changed much since then …
Fatigant, mais formidable
moi cela me plairait de savoir faire comme eux ...
Waiting for more relative video
This is the one and only movie i have ....
@@didierhenry1 ok
It’s crazy to think that most of these old smithing techniques cannot be used on modern steel because it’s *too pure* and doesn’t have the natural “contaminants” like silicon and phosphorus that make this type of ironwork possible - and even give it a degree of corrosion resistance.
As a practicing blacksmith, I feel compelled to mention that this is not at all true. Every technique used in this video is applicable to modern steel as well as they rely on properties inherent to iron and steel as a whole. Pattern welding/damascus is in fact still done exactly this way, by stacking different grades of steel and forge welding them together. Modern steel also isn't "too pure", it is simply much more consistent. Manufacturers can closely control which impurities are present in steel and how much of it, and many are readily added to some grades if steel to improve its qualities like toughness, corrosion resistance, and hardenability. The main change from the time of this film to now is that the production and use of wrought iron has generally stopped, as it was replaced by much more cost effective Mild Steel. Wrought iron had some unique qualities including extraordinary corrosion resistance compared to mass produced steel, but this was largely a result of how it was made (which involved a laborious and very expensive process compared to steel). At any rate, all the metal used for these gun barrels was likely already sonewhat modern steel by that time, as wrought iron is a much worse material for this application.
I love how people used to just stop whatever they were doing and just solemnly stare at the camera guy. I wish people still did that.
ces gens avaient un savoir faire incroyable , perdu maintenant
Trop domage, faudrais peut-être s'y remettre ?
Je me demande où ça a été tourné ?
à Nessonvaux en Belgique
все это. фуфло.
а почему фигня?
Μοναδικό ντοκυμαντέρ!!
@TorbjörnÅhmen