32" tires on Land Rover BEFORE and AFTER 2.5' Lift (LR3)
2018 ж. 8 Ақп.
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It was time to upgrade the stock tires. I went with the largest I felt would comfortably fit. 275/65/18 tires (roughly 32 inches). It was too tight before the lift, but after the lift it fits nice. A small bit of rubbing when turning sharp in reverse, but a okay when moving forward.
Reverse Camel Cut on a D3 (LR3)! Love it. Cheers mate.
Love it!!! Searching for tires on my RRS
18s only work on rrs without brembos
Hey, thanks for the videos. Are the off set on the rims different from land rovers? I was just going to use my 20inch rims for 275/55r20 falken at3w XL. I am hoping it fits my vehicle at 31.9 inches.
Ever thought of installing proud rhino lift extenders that sit on top of the air springs (sorry not sure what they're called)
does that tire size fit the spare wheel location?
Was it difficult to get the alignment in spec after the rods and tire install? I have heard mixed reviews. Im on the fence
Ya working on the exact same thing right now. Can you tell me if you selected the LT or the SL 275/65/r18s for the wild peaks?
That’s for this post! Did it, love it!
how do you lock the suspension ? to stop the wheel from falling ?
But did you reset the suspension after fitting the wheels n big tyres as after jacking mine it it's lowers it self down till you start it and adjust suspension hieght
I have 2inch. Coil lifted suspension. Will 275 65 18 fit? Or i need 265?
Did you show the tires with no lift and the truck in off-road mode ?
Your stock size was smaller then the standard size. It had to be 255/60 R18. 255/55 is a 19" wheel size. The car looks very nice now.
Vehicle looks better with the 32"'s but I'd be concerned about being out somewhere and having a compressor failure .. or airbag for that matter. Could make things very difficult.
Nice looking rig, we do off road recovery in the area where we live and after running around with me My wife is looking at these things as her next build as it provides all the creature comforts for the kids and she really enjoys doing the recoveries with me. That being said I like the look yet drivability that this truck appears to have, can you share the wheel specs (offset/backspacing and such) as well since it looks like you did your homework and had minimal trimming to do after the install.
Never mind after some digging I found the video on wheels...great job on homework and nice looking truck. Thank you for the insight we just bought the truck going to be looking forward to the build.
Hi Boston, thanks for the good words, and LR can be a great mix for Offroad and comfort in my opinion. As for the specs I am running, the rims in this instance are BMW 162. They are staggered. Fronts are 18x8 with 34 offset. Rears are 18x8.5 with 37 offset. Rims are 18 inch. The tires are 275/65/18 Falken Wildpeaks. As for offsets, I like the stance better than factory, could it be even better, likely but I selected the BMW 162's because I like their look and they were a cheap. They were within the offset ranges I was willing to accept and they have been great thus far. Good luck in your Off Road Recovery. I have to say that sounds like it could be a fun and rewarding job!
How are the bags holding up? I was reading that the rods extend things further than what the bags are used to and what they have molded to over the years. That causes them to leak pretty quickly. You might have newer bags, or he might be wrong! Curious to hear how it's holding up. Looks really good.
Well it has so far only been a month since I installed the lift, But so far so good! no leaks, no lowering over days of being parked. No issues. But I do know what you mean about the concern when the bags get old. They get used to being in just one position. But so long as your bags are in okay shape from a flexibility standpoint I would think there is possibility it would be less of a concern. The reason I would think that is the lift changes the resting position of the bags so that the previously rolled section will move to the outside and allow the part to become straight where it previously was flexed. Thus that should be easier on the part of the bag that would be the most worn out by time. On the flip side of course if you bag is really brittle, the interior portion will now become the bottom flexed portion. I would think this would be one of the last parts of the bag to go bad. But if you are border line, that inside portion will now become the bottom fold and the most stressed portion of the bag. So in short, I do buy into the concept that old bags can leak/crack. But if playing the odds I think the risk is greater on lowering your vehicle, and less on raising it. One way you can check is just put your LR in offroad height and inspect the bags. Or leave it that way overnight. That is the position it will be at when your lift is done. So if it is okay at Offroad height test you should be okay. (your mileage may vary) Good luck!
so the last part of the video its stock height after installing the 2.5” leveling kit? i wana see the offroad height
Here you go. a link to the off road setting height vid. Thanks. kzhead.info/sun/l8hxg9Ovj6Cpa6c/bejne.html
What wheels did you go with. The offset looks perfect imo!
BMW 162 Rims. I devised a lug nut adapter kit that makes it so I can use BMW rims on the Rover.
Could you put those tyres on the standard rims?
Yes, Technically they are still 18 inch tires, so they could fit on the stock rims. But they would likely increase the rubbing during turns as they stock rims have a lower offset. Which means they would be sunk deeper toward the center line of the vehicle. It also runs the potential of not fitting on the car if the tire is too fat as it could rub on the shock itself. I didnt check that clearance myself on the stock rims since I knew I was using different rims, so it still could be fine on that front too, but it is something that is worth measuring if you are upsizing your tires. (just to be clear, the above are just things to consider. I am not trying to discourage you from doing it. Could be great, just need to measure first once you pick your final tires size. I personally cut off just a couple small pieces of the rover to clear these wheels when turning. On stock rims it would likely need less cutting on the outer bumper which I did, and more trimming on the inner wheel well, which I also did. :) ) Good luck!
How are you finding it drives 2 years later? It looks fantastic but I might go for 30's just for usability.
For me the 32 tires have been all good. No issues thus far.
@@FarReachFR Did you manage to get the spare in the stock location?
@@joebooth106 You know I never tried it. I just kept the stock spare like a very big donut spare.
How does it operate when articulating off road if it rubs in reverse?
it would not go onto rocky tracks, this is one silly idea, town car
Did this significantly change the gear ratio such that the truck seems to drag more on acceleration? Reason I ask is I put slightly larger tires on an older 4Runner (I own an LR4 as well) and I could tell it did not want to accelerate like before. Not a big deal but still very noticeable.
Yes, totally. The acceleration has been affected. But only really noticeable at higher speeds. For how it feel is in the LR3 it is very minor from stop (0 mph) up to about 45. So basically no change in the lower gears. But After 45 it starts to feel more sluggish, and as for highway speeds its takes longer to build and reduce speed, because not only the effective gear ratio changed, but also the increased rotational mass that has to be slowed. Now is it bad enough for me to want to put back on the smaller tires... no. But yes, you can feel the difference on the top end.
Do you have spacers on there? I have a D3 and bought the same wheels to put on - only the fronts are hitting the calipers.
No spacers on mine. If you have the same wheels perhaps try swapping the rims from the back to the front, Perhaps they have different staggered offsets that could help clear the calipers. (my set of wheels are staggered)
@@FarReachFR thank you for your reply and for the video, really good concise and helpful stuff. I've put the 8js on the front and the wider 8.5js on the back where they originally would have been on the BMW. You may have them the other way around if you had no clearance issues? No worries, I've ordered some spacers to get around the problem. Hopefully these won't cause me any rubbing issues at the front.
people grind the corners off caliper
I apologize, I am a newbie at this - does it become any less safe on the road with the adjusted height? Is the danger of a rollover increased?
Technically, Yes, the danger of rollover is increased. But it is still safe when driven normally.
Far Reach Engineering thanks for clarifying 🙏🏻 I understand that wheels such as these almost always require a lift kit and seeing as almost any overland vehicle is equipped with both it seems as if the decreased safety is negligible. But I would be grateful to know your opinion on how Discovery handles such modifications compared to other vehicles in terms of safety, e.g. Defender, Land Cruiser, etc.
@@hxkdneuxbxjdidndnxj That is a difficult question to compare, as there are many variables in various models. And I think addressing some of the variables is more important than the specific model. 1. Lift height. The higher you lift any vehicle the higher you lift the center of gravity (CoG). And the CoG is what matters. A mild lift will have little effect. A significant lift, Like 12 inches), will have a much larger effect. 2. Width of vehicle. If you widen the track of the vehicle it increases the rolling stability of the truck. Thus wider rims and tires can actually make the truck harder to roll. A mild lift with wider track could actually be safer if done correctly (note this LR3 has a widened track with lift). 3. Tire choice. Tire selection is your direct contact with the ground. Squishy tires that increase roll will also decrease safety because of lean angle and weight transfer. This can be addressed with tire pressures and stiffer tire compounds and plys. I will leave the variable list here, but most trucks can be modified to be good overlanders that handle strong off camber angles. Mods to have a price, but they can be done safely when considering the options.
Far Reach Engineering thanks so much for such an elaborate answer! I’ll note it down and save for future reference!
Hey, do you still have your lr3? How did it hold up with the rods?
I have had lift rods in my 08 LR3 for almost 2 years and no issues. If you plan on doing it just make sure the suspension is solid with no leaks or faults and is reliable and you’ll be happy.
Thank you so much for this, I just got my 3rd LR this past Saturday, my Johnson rods are ordered and on their way. I got a LR4 HSE with 19” stock wheels. Did all the mechanicals corrected themselves when you first started it? You didn’t have to take it anywhere to get it reprogrammed? I bet it looks awesome in off-road mode.
Hi Micah, for me, no reprogramming was necessary. After adding the rods, I started it up and let sit until it set the suspension height. To me it seemed like it created a new base value. After that it was all done and I drove it like normal. Basically install. Turn it on. Wait a while. Then go like normal.
What kind of 2.5inch lift is it? Some links?
Correct. they are shortened links to adjust the height sensor. Real simple. Not coils or different air struts. Just links that tell the current struts to run at higher levels.
Did you use a spacer?
No Spacers.
You need a old d1 or d2
no a fine idea outback, not at all, we go 18.s
Did you test it if it goes to bump stops?
Not specifically. But it has been off road with some pretty significant flex without completely stuffing the tire prior to bumpstop engagement. So for offroading thus far clearances have been good. I likely will take it to some more severe trails later this fall. That could be even more telling.
@@FarReachFR reason im asking is what would happen if a suspension fault presents itself and it goes to bump stops. Will you be still able to move it or you literally get stuck.
I follow you now. When installed the fronts were basically at the stops. While I didnt test it on the road I would expect to still be able to move forward and back, but turning would rub heavily. So it would not be ideal, but it wouldnt be dead stuck if that serious situation came up.
That is just access mode i believe. You can only get it to bump stops by using a IIDtoll or something similar. Reason for my earnest is that i tried 285/60/18 and it did rub, i can still move the D3 by literally destroying the upper tire wall plastics.
Did you sell your lr4?
Hi, Its actually an LR3 and I still have it. Why do you ask? Thx.
@@FarReachFR just haven't seen new vids, and I saw you had a range rover now. Question, on the driver side, did you have to move that cord?
Darkness, which cord are you referring to (and in the RR or the LR3)?
@@FarReachFR the driverside, front wheel. It goes to the lift lever, and is attached to the side of the metal.
what wheels are these?
The black ones? They are actually BMW rims that I painted black. Specifically they are 18 inch BMW 162's. I have a special lug kit that makes it so I can install BMW wheels on my Rover hubs.
Does the BMW 162 have + plus offset? It seems to stick out more or is comparable to stock? Thanks
@@FarReachFR What do you mean "special lug kit"?
Thanks for the reminder, I need to post a video on the kit. In short, the lug nuts on a Land Rover wont work on BMW wheels because the way Land Rover attaches wheels in a different way. You would think it would be really basic, but Rover uses a lug that covers the entire thread cylinder. while that is pretty cool, it has a adverse effect in that if you try to bolt other wheels to your Rover, they wont fit. BMW also has unique lug nuts. Where most cars you put nuts on studs, BMW actually has you use bolts than screw into the hubs. Once again pretty neat, but makes it so you can not interchange many rims. Combine those two problems into one car when you try to bolt BMW to Land Rover you have double the issues. Luckily, I found a third solution that bridges the gap by using a unique lug kit that is matched to the Rover pitch and matched to the BMW conical bolt sections. It is simpler than it sounds, but it took some research to get the right ones. So if you want to bolt BMW to Land Rover, I have a kit that will do that easily.
Yes they do. It helps a bit as well since it moves the wider tire a bit farther outboard from the shocks and inner wheel well.
These wheels look great but no offense, this is such an overall terrible idea. You are not using wheels that were designed for a 5600+lb vehicle such as this one.
You are right! The BMW rims, he is using, are load rated only to 670 kg. The LR3 needs at least 940 kg. He ist risking his life.
Both new and old rims are 18 inch, right? Why are the new ones called "32s"?
Correct, both rims the old and new are 18 inches in diameter. The TIRES though are larger. The old tires were 29 inches in diameter. The new tires are 32 inches in diameter. (thus the 32s.) The new rims have no impact on diameter but they do have a better offset that allow the bigger tires to more easily clear the struts and give a broader wheel track. Plus I just like how they look. :) Thanks for asking the question!
@@FarReachFR Thanks for your reply. Will the wheels being further out have much affect on the wear/stress at the wheel bearings? I think the wheel bearings are a pretty poor design on these cars? (I have the same car)
Aman A The technical answer is yes. but the real answer is no, not really. This is for a couple reasons. the 1st is that while moving the offset or wheels farther to the outside can technically increase the leverage or force on the bearing, that does not take in to account that a greater offset is often tied to a wider rim. And the wider rim then generally cancels out the change because it recenters the force on the rim and makes it centralized again. In essence making it a non issue. (also even if that was not the case and widths were equal we are generally talking about a difference in millimeters (not inches or feet) when it comes to offset changes so the technical yes is still a relatively small change overall).
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Now lift it, doh sorry jumped the gun, but lift it 6
I like the tire but ugly rims
Hi Mert! What kind or rims are your favorite? Do you prefer the stock look, or is there a different style you have preference to?
Music is beyond terrible
Man those rims are ugly