“What have you done in the last 5 years? Grown dreads Taken steads”😂😂😂😂
@mohammedullah10225 жыл бұрын
Shit had me crying😭
@gugu2jersey2 жыл бұрын
Even vic appreciated them ones 😂👏🏻
@MikeeyMarshall4 ай бұрын
"Spin you like bish bash bosh... wait... ow my gosh .... we are about 10 months into the year why does it smell like you aint had a wash" cracked me up
@TheRustaclut07 жыл бұрын
Rusta Lol but for Jafro them bars are next level simple
@dannydbrown906 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh not ow my not gosh
@momogodal13146 жыл бұрын
Mad bars
@taremwadonald563 жыл бұрын
At 0:23 does Jafro say "I beg you move back a bit, your breath stinks" hahahahah
@jamesmartinez97127 жыл бұрын
it got on his nerves didnt it hahaha
@joaotrigo59407 жыл бұрын
loool he 1 of them cheeky mulatos
@hxbadman64667 жыл бұрын
On my life I would of left after that lol
@obviouslybado.b34767 жыл бұрын
But after he finishes his bar he's still waving his hand around his nose loooool
@yteditor12446 жыл бұрын
@James Martinez did you clock 0:09 only thing blay merked was the two chewing gum at the start of the clash!!
@sulemanrahman12395 жыл бұрын
Coming back to this all these years later, Kam and Jafro are still the hardest here. Best Clash of the whole thing
@WunnSEN3 жыл бұрын
Still a classic. ‘ now London’s mourning, that’s red skies on a London morning’
@DominoGaming972 жыл бұрын
Best clash of the whole thing
@Shumo7 жыл бұрын
Amen, Jafro was on point It's like new school (Leicester) vs "original" style (Lon) Everyone pulled their weight, which is miraculous compared to this years line up
@iBUNGATz6 жыл бұрын
manchesterman88 London vs Midlands wasn't grime a side
@elliswinton-slack63506 жыл бұрын
Have to say I like Leicester vs Sheffield too
@TextbookBoxingGB6 жыл бұрын
Shumo notts v manny was best
@goobrrrr6 жыл бұрын
Nah mate the two London clashes with Aj Tracey and London Vs Midlands were better.
@ajfreeney6 жыл бұрын
Still watching this 5 years on, every man went in!
@kyrancampbell5944 Жыл бұрын
Kamakaze’s intro for both of his verses is just too good man😮💨
@evanl22282 жыл бұрын
Jafro is so underrated
@fellacreative_7 жыл бұрын
itz itzzz
@mikeyroberts6476 жыл бұрын
Literally ^^
@lukesaunders13866 жыл бұрын
100% in lc vs derby his shots at eyes were loud
@joshwilcox84836 жыл бұрын
Jafros fucking sick man im from bham big up leister city all day jafro and kam I'm feeling the talent there both fucking sick love them keep it up lads
@carolhallisey77925 жыл бұрын
I'm not hearing it tbh
@user-ik9yh6rh9e5 жыл бұрын
Leicester won it. Skeez, jafro, kam all hard on both verses. London were sick as well tho. best clash
@sebd83027 жыл бұрын
Big up jafro showing no fear lol
@andyturner70707 жыл бұрын
Andy Turner u can tell his a bit shook of merky tho😂
@ZeeLust7 жыл бұрын
Realist dude in there
@babyfriends6155 жыл бұрын
Merk
@babyfriends6155 жыл бұрын
I came here knowing of Kamakaze & Merky Ace, I left remembering Jafro most: Leicester clearly deserved this one.
@emmajones7527 жыл бұрын
I beg ya move back ur breath stinks
@mulrennanb Жыл бұрын
This clash still gets me gassed to date. The fact that all these man r rating each others bars and having fun with it
@Jw1039522 күн бұрын
Nah Kamakaze can handle any beat.
@SandeepSingh-uf9zj7 жыл бұрын
Dont even care about the visual quality. Just happy bobble head isn't in the corner 😂
@lilrascal977 жыл бұрын
lilrascal97 couldn't have put it better myself lol
@sullyr14707 жыл бұрын
Hahahahhahahahahah😂😂😂😂😂
@TheCaramelGamer6 жыл бұрын
LOOOOOL!! Trust me
@Gullynw6 жыл бұрын
lilrascal97 ace is shit people can understand him just lots of noise when he raps he should quit for a real job
@johncadogan21096 жыл бұрын
You are all jokers. He is the best in that room.
@DaniyalKhan216 жыл бұрын
I‘ve come back to this now 4 years later and it’s still some of the dopest shit I’ve ever seen. Kam was good here but this wasn’t his best for me. Jafro went off! Absolutely carried it for me. Merky Ace killed it for London, he didn’t lose to anyone in my opinion. The African dude I actually enjoyed as well, he had good bars and his energetic was dope. Sick battle.
@UstashaMe842 жыл бұрын
Same here man, this battle is too good
@isaaccheale13572 жыл бұрын
Why did London rotate the team
@callummoloney86492 жыл бұрын
@@callummoloney8649 Because they wanted to give the other cities a shot and not have London just stomp everyone. You could probably pick like 4 London teams that could crush the competition. Plus they want to appeal to other areas which is bullshit because it should be best vs best. I mean that’s my theory anyway.
@UstashaMe842 жыл бұрын
@@UstashaMe84 i doubt thats true. But if it was then tbh it would make sense. London is to big compared to other cities, naturally they gonna have more and better talent
@N4Z.1002 жыл бұрын
Didn't understand a word of merky , Blay was the best for London hands down!
@COYS23 Жыл бұрын
Kamakaze looks like he is having a good time, and really believes in his guys, jafro has come so far!
@samuelcasey10755 жыл бұрын
Same with vic, I rate when people can take a joke like he laughed at the hygiene bars
@ddm6779 Жыл бұрын
To be honest Everyone smashed it!
@Gullynw6 жыл бұрын
Jafro and Kamakaze were the best .
@tomh3836 жыл бұрын
Merky ace deserves a mention !
@sulemanrahman12395 жыл бұрын
All of em was 🔥
@davewilldoit2 жыл бұрын
Them Opening bars by Jaffro actually are some of the HARDEST bars ive heard.
@WunnSEN5 жыл бұрын
"I could never loose to a guy with a quiff or a guy wearing glasses" 🤣🤣🤣
@shanemul3837 Жыл бұрын
The quality is bad cos I had to take it from a reaction video since I didn't have the original vid in my downloads but the audio is fine If anyone can't watch it tell me
@fintan22567 жыл бұрын
I've wheeled up Merky's last verse like 10 times
@Amirsol556 жыл бұрын
It was dead lol
@willjames60372 жыл бұрын
First 8 was good direct bars then he just goes back to generic shit
@BeanMcDean2 жыл бұрын
When grime aside was good
@kingjinxter27986 жыл бұрын
5:27 Blay finally cracks for a grin
@ChrisC14116 жыл бұрын
Look at Kamakaze's face at 2:47 - he knows Merky has the sickest flow hahah
@jamesmartinez97127 жыл бұрын
Merky Aces flow isn't remarkable at all? I mean it's not shit but it aint special.....
@danharris88057 жыл бұрын
Santoras flow was good, liked the switch every 8 bars. But as usual jafros my favourite
@j.m.g51307 жыл бұрын
Looks like kama had maybe 1 more word to say, or something, but Merky came in
@AnimationsN16 жыл бұрын
2023 and im still eya ! Massive clash this
@HUDsoldja7 ай бұрын
2024
@strongamizis21 күн бұрын
What has he done took stedz
@NathHD7 жыл бұрын
jokes bar from Kam!
@albertohs96215 жыл бұрын
Jafro, before he even starts spitting: “Yo yo I beg you move back a bit your breath stinks” dudes won already 😂😭 that was gold
@Hypehype-eg4yx11 ай бұрын
loool
@ResurrectionNoLazarus8 ай бұрын
Makes blay call himself a prick 🤣 jafros attitude in clarshes is 🔥
@jamesmoore1114 ай бұрын
your dealer makes you kiss mans shoe then have you pay £20 for a 10 lol
@Skronze5 жыл бұрын
Trust best one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌👌
@proper1273 жыл бұрын
listen to this tooooo much, nice one for the re-upload g, best battle that happened in grime-a-side by far!!!
@cjone5y2057 жыл бұрын
In all my years of listening to grime I've never heard 6:15 of constant fire and filthy beats .
@theyaf13745 жыл бұрын
this is the best of the series tho. all quality.
@sebd83027 жыл бұрын
Kamikaze: “what have you done in the last five years? Grown dreads? What has he done? Took STED’s?” 😂 😂 😂 😂
@RebelCity_2 ай бұрын
"I've done shits that are bigger than you" lmao!
@joshd58765 жыл бұрын
Leicester took this for sure! Different level
@kiy4ni5 жыл бұрын
2:20 to 2:35 kamikaze you savage😂
@twyangamashininga84327 жыл бұрын
5:17 to 5:25 again.. Absolute savage bastard😂
@twyangamashininga84327 жыл бұрын
4:50 JUST🔥🔥🔥
@TASTYTNT3 жыл бұрын
This dont get old.best clash ive ever seen
@neilwarnock72006 жыл бұрын
glad its finally back up somewhere
@Jamarity7 жыл бұрын
These red bull vids with jafro and kamikaze are amazing
@unoriginalog8365 жыл бұрын
Come back to this one and them 2 last 16’s are the hardest still fucking hell
@JESWEATSHIRT6 жыл бұрын
Epic battle. Everyone smashed it with hard bars this is the standard of clashes
@THEXBOXHACKER20105 жыл бұрын
Jafro's round one was the best one there 🔥🔥Kamakaze is always mad aswell
@lukesaunders13866 жыл бұрын
Need the 1st instrumental, this is so sick.
@53strat555 жыл бұрын
Kamakazes final bars, dif level 👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥
@jackm35052 жыл бұрын
Vic sontoro was liking kamz last verse 😂😂 kamakaze and merky ace were sick
@mrknowitall95086 жыл бұрын
The way blay first jumps on is actually fire 🔥
@oscarstewart79623 жыл бұрын
Merky bodied this
@-V33-5 жыл бұрын
“Beg you move up though breath stinks” violation lol 😂🤣
@BigSmokezElevateWorldWide11 ай бұрын
Jafro definitely player of the tournament
@ajfreeney3 жыл бұрын
this is the only clash i can think of where you can make a serious case for a draw in my opinion, both were really good
@lucasskinner3805 Жыл бұрын
Bring back grime-a-side!
@jordonumadbro4 жыл бұрын
This still bangs to this day 💥💥
@alexallan65553 жыл бұрын
This clash was the equivalent to Naruto vs Sasuke's first fight
@dt83848 ай бұрын
It's good to see them having fun like that 👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
@leesam43005 жыл бұрын
This instrumental is impossible to find !
@COYS23 Жыл бұрын
Still looking sigh
@midgetgem5650 Жыл бұрын
@@midgetgem5650 only people that got it is the peeps tre lets have it 😂
@bashdabbho1833 Жыл бұрын
this was the best one bc they had the best personals
@greenblaze91897 жыл бұрын
The best grime a side clash ever
@ZA-sy7dn5 жыл бұрын
For fuck sake jafro 😂😂 all of that was sick but jafro is just straight up savage man 😂
@j1ninjazx6r4 жыл бұрын
Skeez ur a good yout jump in the back seat!!!! Victory shud have been awarded right there. Whole thing was scorchin
@neilwarnock72006 жыл бұрын
Hardest episode still watch to this day
@TehVizionsClan4 жыл бұрын
One of the best clashes
@yvonnekelly66535 жыл бұрын
The beat is hard
@SBArtist7 жыл бұрын
Everyone of these go in !!! 🔥
@bradywelch7765 жыл бұрын
I wish my Mrs looked at me the way vic santoro looks at jaffro
@thomaswales21573 жыл бұрын
1:46 pure filth, he should be behind bars for that line
@MissEllaa1006 жыл бұрын
mercy ace fair play too cold
@fel626802 ай бұрын
The way kam says who Eva picked this line up musta been lean learn !!!! I'm from bham but gotta say im loving the L.C talent big up Leicester city jafo and kamakazi r fucking sick
@carolhallisey77925 жыл бұрын
What's the first instrumental?
@benjiaaron62385 жыл бұрын
Vic is the best in this freestyle no guestions asked
@makethosegainztrainhard34895 жыл бұрын
Jafro got them hot barz boi!
@kynever78656 жыл бұрын
Can't find this beat anywhere
@shanemul3837 Жыл бұрын
Red bull beats are never found bro 🤣
@jackmorgan2747 Жыл бұрын
yooo these were too hard man
@dant28128 ай бұрын
What’s the background best ? Need a link
@struxnyt39914 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is what happens after this because sometimes you see them smile and laugh after certain bars but other times they look like they wanna kill each other 😂😂
@yikes31544 жыл бұрын
Jafro slapped Blay with ease😂
@TheNoNamedd5 жыл бұрын
Kamikaze and merky ace definitely captains
@johnderdup15275 жыл бұрын
Kamakaze lives for this shit
@reecehayden77316 жыл бұрын
skeez is mad underrated
@ResurrectionNoLazarus Жыл бұрын
Kamakaze and eyes!!! Wow 👀👀👀
@MAKAMOORZ5 жыл бұрын
Love that merky ace diss
@nickwalsh7988 Жыл бұрын
Man they knew jafro killed it straight off
@dogepin16406 жыл бұрын
beat was sick on this one
@YunaxEU4 жыл бұрын
Jafro is an absolute beast.
@peterjeffrey26724 жыл бұрын
Kamikaze buried Merky with that 5 year bar
@4thelovemedia2145 жыл бұрын
this was such a good clash
@samduncan60595 жыл бұрын
Kenan and kel going hard
@kierenf38093 жыл бұрын
Still come back to this in 2024... jafro came for war 😂
@danielprytherch11512 күн бұрын
For the love of God PLEASEEEEEEE tell me what this beat is! Anyone know?
@billysweeney99946 жыл бұрын
Kamakaze and merky ace’s second round 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@DamienHanna_ Жыл бұрын
OI JAFRO SLAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHO ELSE KEEPS LISTENING TO THE CLASHES
@jamesbagd37033 жыл бұрын
Respect to vic santoro big man thing
@makethosegainztrainhard34896 жыл бұрын
Merky ace reminds me of one of them American rappers that la Capone chilled with
@goodvibes33007 жыл бұрын
Merky Ace bodied Kamakaze with that last verse.
@JJHaggy7 жыл бұрын
J Haggerty merky ace bodied every single round put it that way
@SBArtist7 жыл бұрын
gass, kamakaze merked their whole team both times he spat, london got shat on hard. including merky ace
@paulcross62826 жыл бұрын
GrimePoint leicester were on point and so much better. And im from no where near any of them places :)) London were fairly trash
@johnlemon57716 жыл бұрын
Kamakaze ended this with the reserves line. Leicester were way better, Jafro absolutely ripped Blay, Skeez had Santoro by a mile and Kamakaze had Ace even though that was a lot closer than the others because Ace is that much better than Blay & Vic.
@mattnorris71246 жыл бұрын
Midnight Rose182 Leicester won for me but, Merky Ace was MOTM
@JJHaggy5 жыл бұрын
2:18 you alright there m8
@unclebruce57876 жыл бұрын
Damn myth has bars 😂
@undisputedkingofstyle13005 жыл бұрын
Jeeeez Skeez 🔥
@BoroDanny906 жыл бұрын
everyone smashed this
@bhuggett227 жыл бұрын
this is one of the best clashes i have ever heard all guys go in, but merky and blay for london all day but cant pick a winner ..
“What have you done in the last 5 years? Grown dreads Taken steads”😂😂😂😂
Shit had me crying😭
Even vic appreciated them ones 😂👏🏻
"Spin you like bish bash bosh... wait... ow my gosh .... we are about 10 months into the year why does it smell like you aint had a wash" cracked me up
Rusta Lol but for Jafro them bars are next level simple
Oh my gosh not ow my not gosh
Mad bars
At 0:23 does Jafro say "I beg you move back a bit, your breath stinks" hahahahah
it got on his nerves didnt it hahaha
loool he 1 of them cheeky mulatos
On my life I would of left after that lol
But after he finishes his bar he's still waving his hand around his nose loooool
@James Martinez did you clock 0:09 only thing blay merked was the two chewing gum at the start of the clash!!
Coming back to this all these years later, Kam and Jafro are still the hardest here. Best Clash of the whole thing
Still a classic. ‘ now London’s mourning, that’s red skies on a London morning’
Best clash of the whole thing
Amen, Jafro was on point It's like new school (Leicester) vs "original" style (Lon) Everyone pulled their weight, which is miraculous compared to this years line up
manchesterman88 London vs Midlands wasn't grime a side
Have to say I like Leicester vs Sheffield too
Shumo notts v manny was best
Nah mate the two London clashes with Aj Tracey and London Vs Midlands were better.
Still watching this 5 years on, every man went in!
Kamakaze’s intro for both of his verses is just too good man😮💨
Jafro is so underrated
itz itzzz
Literally ^^
100% in lc vs derby his shots at eyes were loud
Jafros fucking sick man im from bham big up leister city all day jafro and kam I'm feeling the talent there both fucking sick love them keep it up lads
I'm not hearing it tbh
Leicester won it. Skeez, jafro, kam all hard on both verses. London were sick as well tho. best clash
Big up jafro showing no fear lol
Andy Turner u can tell his a bit shook of merky tho😂
Realist dude in there
Merk
I came here knowing of Kamakaze & Merky Ace, I left remembering Jafro most: Leicester clearly deserved this one.
I beg ya move back ur breath stinks
This clash still gets me gassed to date. The fact that all these man r rating each others bars and having fun with it
Nah Kamakaze can handle any beat.
Dont even care about the visual quality. Just happy bobble head isn't in the corner 😂
lilrascal97 couldn't have put it better myself lol
Hahahahhahahahahah😂😂😂😂😂
LOOOOOL!! Trust me
lilrascal97 ace is shit people can understand him just lots of noise when he raps he should quit for a real job
You are all jokers. He is the best in that room.
I‘ve come back to this now 4 years later and it’s still some of the dopest shit I’ve ever seen. Kam was good here but this wasn’t his best for me. Jafro went off! Absolutely carried it for me. Merky Ace killed it for London, he didn’t lose to anyone in my opinion. The African dude I actually enjoyed as well, he had good bars and his energetic was dope. Sick battle.
Same here man, this battle is too good
Why did London rotate the team
@@callummoloney8649 Because they wanted to give the other cities a shot and not have London just stomp everyone. You could probably pick like 4 London teams that could crush the competition. Plus they want to appeal to other areas which is bullshit because it should be best vs best. I mean that’s my theory anyway.
@@UstashaMe84 i doubt thats true. But if it was then tbh it would make sense. London is to big compared to other cities, naturally they gonna have more and better talent
Didn't understand a word of merky , Blay was the best for London hands down!
Kamakaze looks like he is having a good time, and really believes in his guys, jafro has come so far!
Same with vic, I rate when people can take a joke like he laughed at the hygiene bars
To be honest Everyone smashed it!
Jafro and Kamakaze were the best .
Merky ace deserves a mention !
All of em was 🔥
Them Opening bars by Jaffro actually are some of the HARDEST bars ive heard.
"I could never loose to a guy with a quiff or a guy wearing glasses" 🤣🤣🤣
The quality is bad cos I had to take it from a reaction video since I didn't have the original vid in my downloads but the audio is fine If anyone can't watch it tell me
I've wheeled up Merky's last verse like 10 times
It was dead lol
First 8 was good direct bars then he just goes back to generic shit
When grime aside was good
5:27 Blay finally cracks for a grin
Look at Kamakaze's face at 2:47 - he knows Merky has the sickest flow hahah
Merky Aces flow isn't remarkable at all? I mean it's not shit but it aint special.....
Santoras flow was good, liked the switch every 8 bars. But as usual jafros my favourite
Looks like kama had maybe 1 more word to say, or something, but Merky came in
2023 and im still eya ! Massive clash this
2024
What has he done took stedz
jokes bar from Kam!
Jafro, before he even starts spitting: “Yo yo I beg you move back a bit your breath stinks” dudes won already 😂😭 that was gold
loool
Makes blay call himself a prick 🤣 jafros attitude in clarshes is 🔥
your dealer makes you kiss mans shoe then have you pay £20 for a 10 lol
Trust best one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌👌
listen to this tooooo much, nice one for the re-upload g, best battle that happened in grime-a-side by far!!!
In all my years of listening to grime I've never heard 6:15 of constant fire and filthy beats .
this is the best of the series tho. all quality.
Kamikaze: “what have you done in the last five years? Grown dreads? What has he done? Took STED’s?” 😂 😂 😂 😂
"I've done shits that are bigger than you" lmao!
Leicester took this for sure! Different level
2:20 to 2:35 kamikaze you savage😂
5:17 to 5:25 again.. Absolute savage bastard😂
4:50 JUST🔥🔥🔥
This dont get old.best clash ive ever seen
glad its finally back up somewhere
These red bull vids with jafro and kamikaze are amazing
Come back to this one and them 2 last 16’s are the hardest still fucking hell
Epic battle. Everyone smashed it with hard bars this is the standard of clashes
Jafro's round one was the best one there 🔥🔥Kamakaze is always mad aswell
Need the 1st instrumental, this is so sick.
Kamakazes final bars, dif level 👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥
Vic sontoro was liking kamz last verse 😂😂 kamakaze and merky ace were sick
The way blay first jumps on is actually fire 🔥
Merky bodied this
“Beg you move up though breath stinks” violation lol 😂🤣
Jafro definitely player of the tournament
this is the only clash i can think of where you can make a serious case for a draw in my opinion, both were really good
Bring back grime-a-side!
This still bangs to this day 💥💥
This clash was the equivalent to Naruto vs Sasuke's first fight
It's good to see them having fun like that 👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
This instrumental is impossible to find !
Still looking sigh
@@midgetgem5650 only people that got it is the peeps tre lets have it 😂
this was the best one bc they had the best personals
The best grime a side clash ever
For fuck sake jafro 😂😂 all of that was sick but jafro is just straight up savage man 😂
Skeez ur a good yout jump in the back seat!!!! Victory shud have been awarded right there. Whole thing was scorchin
Hardest episode still watch to this day
One of the best clashes
The beat is hard
Everyone of these go in !!! 🔥
I wish my Mrs looked at me the way vic santoro looks at jaffro
1:46 pure filth, he should be behind bars for that line
mercy ace fair play too cold
The way kam says who Eva picked this line up musta been lean learn !!!! I'm from bham but gotta say im loving the L.C talent big up Leicester city jafo and kamakazi r fucking sick
What's the first instrumental?
Vic is the best in this freestyle no guestions asked
Jafro got them hot barz boi!
Can't find this beat anywhere
Red bull beats are never found bro 🤣
yooo these were too hard man
What’s the background best ? Need a link
What I want to know is what happens after this because sometimes you see them smile and laugh after certain bars but other times they look like they wanna kill each other 😂😂
Jafro slapped Blay with ease😂
Kamikaze and merky ace definitely captains
Kamakaze lives for this shit
skeez is mad underrated
Kamakaze and eyes!!! Wow 👀👀👀
Love that merky ace diss
Man they knew jafro killed it straight off
beat was sick on this one
Jafro is an absolute beast.
Kamikaze buried Merky with that 5 year bar
this was such a good clash
Kenan and kel going hard
Still come back to this in 2024... jafro came for war 😂
For the love of God PLEASEEEEEEE tell me what this beat is! Anyone know?
Kamakaze and merky ace’s second round 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
OI JAFRO SLAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHO ELSE KEEPS LISTENING TO THE CLASHES
Respect to vic santoro big man thing
Merky ace reminds me of one of them American rappers that la Capone chilled with
Merky Ace bodied Kamakaze with that last verse.
J Haggerty merky ace bodied every single round put it that way
gass, kamakaze merked their whole team both times he spat, london got shat on hard. including merky ace
GrimePoint leicester were on point and so much better. And im from no where near any of them places :)) London were fairly trash
Kamakaze ended this with the reserves line. Leicester were way better, Jafro absolutely ripped Blay, Skeez had Santoro by a mile and Kamakaze had Ace even though that was a lot closer than the others because Ace is that much better than Blay & Vic.
Midnight Rose182 Leicester won for me but, Merky Ace was MOTM
2:18 you alright there m8
Damn myth has bars 😂
Jeeeez Skeez 🔥
everyone smashed this
this is one of the best clashes i have ever heard all guys go in, but merky and blay for london all day but cant pick a winner ..