Joe Rogan had Francis Ngannou, and asked him about his UFC negotiation with Dana White and Hunter Cambell!
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$1.50 per pay per view when the UFC sell 1+million pay per views he’s making $1,500,000 just on that alone. Not to mention show and win money plus outside endorsements. Assuming $500,000 show and $500,000 win. He’s bringing in $2,500,000 not counting outside endorsements for 12 weeks of hard training to prepare for 1-5 rounds of fighting. That’s great money… but I do see the argument where these guys want to make double that because of how tough this professional is on their body and minds.
@Thedevinwills7 ай бұрын
That's a lot of dough indeed, but his main issue is knowing the PPV earnings of Jones, Conor, and Izzy. They make at least 10 million each, so that's why he found the Deal disrespectful.
@MMABoutsOfficial7 ай бұрын
Every body doesn’t sell1 million paper views and 1.50 as the champ is definitely a slap in the face
@Drizzylaflair7 ай бұрын
His outside endorsements should have no factor in what the UFC pays him/ or his UFC contract. His outside endorsements are what his management team works to get him and they take a pretty healthy cut of it too.
@IamLegend327 ай бұрын
@@MMABoutsOfficial I didn’t know those figures were confirmed for Jones/Izzy/conor. Always been curious to know contractual details for those guys. But also to be fair conor has sold over a million PPVs and holds most of the top 10 PPV of all time with Floyd. So he’s in his own league and should be rewarded as such in my opinion. Wish ngannou was able to do the boxing fight in his deal and make 30+ million that way with them. But it looks like it all worked itself out.
@Thedevinwills7 ай бұрын
@@Drizzylaflair I think if you want more than $1.50 you need to be deserving of that. You need to command the audiences to want to buy your PPV fights like o’Malley, Conor, and others do. He’s a very talented fighter with amazing knockout skills, but a lot of people aren’t too excited to pay for his fights just looking at the stats. Not sure why that is, but I guess there should be more points in the table for champions as a standard. You fight for cheap for so many years and once you wear the gold belt you should be rewarded as a UFC champion. 5% of the PPV would be $4.00. So maybe that’s the magic number at a PPv cost of $80. Hard to say
@Thedevinwills7 ай бұрын
Dana: "Boxing is dead." Also Dana: "Box with Jon Jones instead Fury." Dana White is a clown.
@shyadeny7 ай бұрын
He never told fury to box jones he told him to fight jones in MMA……..
@Ibanez5277 ай бұрын
Also Dana: "Slap contests are the new big thing!!" He really is a joke. He ONLY cares about making money for his owners and I mean his "owners" literally. He's just a pawn.
@brian45447 ай бұрын
@@Ibanez527he know jon Jones will take big fat L cuz he is not that guy in boxing.
@genocidejoe7 ай бұрын
Dana's right, boxing is dead. The only boxing matches people have talked about for the last 5 years are the circus events with youtubers and retired mma fighters. Once this fad dies out, boxing dies out with it.
@ojblackcat52867 ай бұрын
@@genocidejoe and fury would take a big fat L in mma.. I’m not sure what your point is.
@Ibanez5277 ай бұрын
Francis is looking out for himself. You can't blame him for that. I'm with you Francis. These fighters are independent contractors. Wouldn't you want to look out for your business also?
@cbax28697 ай бұрын
The UFC gave him the platform to become successful. FN is the dumbest athlete of all time. He flushed hundreds of millions
@uknow10947 ай бұрын
UFC gave Ngannou an opportunity and look where he is at now. Dude went from shoveling sand to having a car collection with the crown jewel being a Rolls-Royce Phantom VII worth close to $500,000. "They Offered $1.50 per $80 PPV!" Dude acts like there isn't security crew, cameramen crew, commentary crew, octagon construction crew, etc... that also need pay
@jspringer867 ай бұрын
Very soft spoken and intelligent man
@guygaudreau85857 ай бұрын
@@jspringer86 Okay and he fulfilled his obligations to UFC the contract was over, he is suppose to kiss Dana ass forever because of an opportunity, fuck outta here
@eclisis50807 ай бұрын
@@jspringer86the pay deserved by all those workers are to be paid by the UFC, not Francis. An excellent employee shouldn’t be forced to pay the sick leave wages of his coworkers just to do his boss a favor, makes 0 sense to say FRANCIS is the one that should be thinking of factoring in the wage potentials of the janitors at the Stadium when he’s renegotiating his contract. Dana has a multi BILLION dollar company and openly attempts to cuck his “contractors” from finding any other streams of revenue outside of the UFC. Dana is a leech
@ayubm16167 ай бұрын
UFC saw Francis as someone incredibly profitable, an income generator who wouldn’t ask for much because he came from nothing and speaks no English. Meanwhile Francis learns English, gets the belt and shows himself as the most intelligent fighter ever in his dealings with the promotion.
@pavelg49907 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@bigcohiba2987 ай бұрын
lets be real...noboby was buying francis ppv cards lol
@hitleractually81807 ай бұрын
I’d say he is far from the smartest. McGregor, Izzy and all the other superstars are financially a lot more stable and more popular. But atleast he is doing what he wants to do
@manavbhalla28617 ай бұрын
He wasn't a big pay per view seller
@kytsunman85927 ай бұрын
If you’re a big star like Conor you get a lot of leverage.
@Maartun7 ай бұрын
I am amazed how a man: - with no education is so educated - with crazy physical presence is so calm
@fenderbender20966 ай бұрын
He also speaks three languages now! French, English & his native tongue!
@nswgb695 ай бұрын
He is very educated. Just not the kinda of "educated" in your sense of the word.
@tybryga865 ай бұрын
He got his education in real life experiences as he wanted to learn and progress and not huddle up in self-pity and defeatism. Great Fighter 💪 & Great Ambassador for the Fight Game
@yougoagogo48432 ай бұрын
A man with a legit dream. Every person like ngannou do be like that
@rcortez59792 ай бұрын
He learns those real life lessons. Some you just don’t need school to learn.
@RooseCochran2 ай бұрын
Dana White says Boxing is Dead but ALL His fighters want to fight Boxers in a boxing ring. Let that sink in…
@bigbromcgee71187 ай бұрын
They want to cash out with the one fight that'll make them a lot of money. If they fought some regular guys, they'd make much than you think.
@gilbertoflores73977 ай бұрын
If he paid his fighters professional sports salaries it wouldn’t matter.
@simonsauter32297 ай бұрын
All his fighters? Really? ALL of them?
@SBayne7627 ай бұрын
@@gilbertoflores7397 even if they want to cash out on 1 fight that should still be on the table for UFC fighters especially if UFC gets to decide on which boxing fight that is. If it was any fight and many sure you'd have a point but having a clause in there for UFC to decide/make the offer then both the UFC and the fighter would benefit financially from the deal so not quite sure what's holding UFC back from cashing in on that unless they're scared of the fact it would devalue their champs if they all lose boxing fights
@bubness15877 ай бұрын
He also watches boxing matches cage side lol..Dana is full of shit
@paul1231007 ай бұрын
The no sponsorships deal is the biggest one. Schaub showed his receipts for the money that he got from sponsorships and it was huge. It dwarfed any purse they got. And this was Brendan Schaub, let that sink in. Imagine if this was Francis. And all because the UFC wants a bigger cut of any sponsor the fighters would get.
@plpa82507 ай бұрын
part of it is some fighters got some pretty dumb sponsors
@Darkgale697 ай бұрын
@@Darkgale69yeah man the ufc totally made a deal with Reebok out of concern for who the fighters were sponsored by... OK
@JSp87 ай бұрын
@@Darkgale69 no excuse as so many ways around that. All the UFC would have to do is vet each sponsor or set up some type of affiliate programme for companies to sponsor their fighters at least. The ufc could put so many rules in place for sponsors and it would still be beneficial to both fighters and sponsors
@papaspaulding7 ай бұрын
@@Darkgale69 Francis addresses this in the video. He says the UFC should simply review, and have the ability to veto sponsors if they don't align with the UFC brand.
@jr236407 ай бұрын
@@Darkgale69That sounds like the dumb argument Dana made a while ago. Doesn't UFC have condom sponsors, alcohol sponsors, and gambling sponsors? Isn't Logan Paul a major UFC sponsor through Prime? How could any fighters sponsors be that bad? The only thing UFC is missing is adult companies... and we'll have to give that some time to see what happens lol Even then, UFC could give restrictions to the types of sponsors they allow. But it seems like for now, if fighters want sponsors they have to shout them out during their post fight interview.
@xcurrentbreeze66267 ай бұрын
Respect to this guy. Nothing better than a serious tough man who is soft spoken, very rational, and can share emotionally charged facts with respect and as much honesty as might be prudent while swimming with understandable sharks. Have never done a deep dive on Francis and his skills and record but I'm a fan now. What a temperament and business savvy on this guy. 👍 Thanks MMA Bouts. 🙏
@stefanmarraccini86467 ай бұрын
True gentleman
@hyperscootershop7 ай бұрын
From working at a sand mine in Cameroon to being paid millions of dollars for a fight is no easy task. Francis is an absolute legend, the man is a fighter to the core if you think about it. Initially thought he was just physically gifted but the real talent lies in his heart, willing to endure and prevail at the end. Hollywood should make a movie out of it honestly.
@MrGreedyBunny7 ай бұрын
After the first Miocic fight he was scared shitless and had one of the worst UFC matches ever vs Lewis. Now I like Francis as much as the next guy, but let's leave this "legend, fighter to the core, heart of a warrior" hype bullshit away
@arjuken85 ай бұрын
@@arjuken8he stumbled, doesn't mean he's not a legend. Can you imagine getting beat on by a guy like Stipe for 4 rounds and not having it effect your psyche? Ngannou got cocky, knocked down, but then regrouped and got back into the game. Even won his last MMA fight by wrestling on a bumb knee (the same as way he lost to Stipe). He was young and missed a step, doesn't mean he's not a legend.
@zjudkins5 ай бұрын
Seems like his true power is not understanding how a business is run and destroying his earning potential in the process.
@slayerhuh4044 ай бұрын
@slayerhuh404 his boxing purse says otherwise 😂 Dana has the "independent contractor" hypnosis that the WWE has. Apparently if you convince your guys that you have a monopoly on their earning potential, they believe it. They fucked up by letting McGregor fight Mayweather 😂
@thedominion6643Ай бұрын
Weird how everything Francis says is calm and respectful, still doesn't trash Dana or the UFC and frankly, it all just adds up! Meanwhile, Dana trashes ANYONE that even just sees out their contract and makes manic accusations on their way out that make no sense... 🤔
@hanifibrahim4607 ай бұрын
Of course because he will say and do what makes him and the ufc the most money.
@ippothedestroyer7 ай бұрын
How us Africans are
@JaydenLynch-ds6eo7 ай бұрын
Is a business as a man you should never bring your emotions and Ego in a business meeting.
@Moorsho7 ай бұрын
One has good belief set. The other tries to control narratvie
@ShiNooBi19867 ай бұрын
that's damn right! dana starts spittin and sputtering trying to get his words out and then either doesn't make sense or contradicts himself cuz he knows they do their fighters dirty af SMFH. then he'll say some shit about fighting for pride or the belt...as if they can't do that and make sure they don't end up broke also!
@pfftwhut76387 ай бұрын
Francis Ngannou vs. Jon Jones would have been awesome. The UFC was absurd.
@highwind81247 ай бұрын
Francis would have lost like Gane
@chiquita6837 ай бұрын
@@chiquita683don't think so homie
@izqwiz17467 ай бұрын
The ufc prefer to loose money rather than let fighters make with ufc as team .
@saynotothegreatreset7 ай бұрын
So when ya hear Dana White says “the best boxers don’t fight the best boxers at times” remember how Dana White has personally BLOCKED certain HUGE FIGHTS in the UFC.
@bigbromcgee71187 ай бұрын
@@izqwiz1746He'd put up more of a fight than Gane but Jones would definitely win imo
@BreastMilkEnjoyerX7 ай бұрын
The most underrated thing about Francis is his IQ, this man is wicked gifted, the way he can absorbd knowledge. No one i know learn to fight different styles in such short time.
@nohome126 ай бұрын
And from zero English to being able to articulate himself so clearly. Try having the same conversation with Diaz, Gaethje or any other American fighter
@JJJ-ok7nc6 ай бұрын
People say that but in every clip about him I see tons of comments saying how smart he is so I don't think its underrated
@psychedelicchimps2 ай бұрын
Imagine being offered 1.8% for your effort and people thinking thats a heck of a deal🤦♂
@tmac200316 ай бұрын
What do you think it costs to promote a fight a create a PPV event?
@toddkostАй бұрын
Love how Francis speaks like we're all sitting round a cracking fire deep in the woods, flames flickering on a circle of faces listening in wonderment.
@IrishTechnicalThinker7 ай бұрын
Thats a rich description of the power of whispers friendo
@fxseb77 ай бұрын
Francis could have a solid career doing audio books if he wanted.
@dfpguitar7 ай бұрын
@@dfpguitar eh if it was an African story sure, otherwise it would be weird listening to him narrate a random story
@Captain_Insano_nomercy7 ай бұрын
I feel that man. Hes a real human. Hes been through some real stuff
@user-jn3hr4se7n7 ай бұрын
@@dfpguitarhaha love that idea
@user-jn3hr4se7n7 ай бұрын
i agree with him on alot of the things he was asking for. theres no reason the ufc couldnt allow fighters to have 1-2 sponsor patches on there uniforms. with the raised ppv prices champions should be receiving wayyy more than .25 cents of the increase thats insulting.
@redeyejedi1167 ай бұрын
There is a reason, but the UFC has the answer. It most likely boils down to money/power, at its root.
@itswrongtokillanimalsifyou28377 ай бұрын
They said they offered him a 1.50. which I agree they could still offer a couple dollars more. Francis wanted more cuz there's no way he's selling a million ppv
@davidkunkle32627 ай бұрын
Let's say the UFC has Rebok and Cocacola for sponsors. Rebok and Cocacola don.t want you to having your fighters promoting Nike, or Pepsi. They cut the UFC big checks for exclusive promotion. There was a clothing company named TapOut that made a lot of money through the UFC by having fighters wear thier gear. The UFC got nothing, and had no rights to TapOut. Dana learned from that mistake.
@fantasysportsanalysistfsa89387 ай бұрын
@davidkunkle3262 Yeah, Jon vs. Francis wouldn't have sold a million 🤡
@ujabroni97387 ай бұрын
Venom pay premium bucks to ensure they are the only sponsor. As soon as fighters are allowed to use their own patches the value of the deal massively decreases. It provides a baseline guarantee for fighters at the bottom of the spectrum that may not have any sponsors. (Ofcourse they could get more but it does help certainly some!!)
@michaelwills18187 ай бұрын
I really like Ngannou. His story and where he came from to where he is today is amazing!!
@jasonsingh70707 ай бұрын
The more I hear about UFC contracts, the more I feel like Dana is intentionally trying to prevent them from making money
@MICHVEl127 ай бұрын
if u are smart enough, you should know employers dont want their employees to make enough money to live life rent free, those employers want you to NEED them. hence why they underpay everyone. its market manipulation 101 u guys need to wake the f up and see how rigged the system is
@helioshyperion80777 ай бұрын
Of course, gotta keep fighting
@anthonynoel39527 ай бұрын
Slavery
@zulfanirich75947 ай бұрын
He is. He has said it multiple times
@jayn69437 ай бұрын
When has Dana EVER NOT upheld his end of the contract. He offers fights, promotes, and always pays them. If fighter can't understand the contract he/she signed... that's on them. Fighters negotiate, and willingly agree to sign the dotted line
@andysommerlot51237 ай бұрын
So happy for Francis! I hope people realize how dirty the UFC was trying to do him....and still doing to fighters 😢
@adriansmajlaj867 ай бұрын
What do you even mean? The ufc needs to profit. Hid last ppv didn’t sell. Literally 300k. That’s horrible. Did he get free promotion his whole career? Free food from the pi? Free physical therapy? Free surgeries? Yes to all. Is Francis paying all the analysts and commentators? The judges? The venue fee? The cutmen refs? I’m boxing none of this stuff is free like he had it. The pfl will lose money every time fights.
@brandonsalinas28217 ай бұрын
He's making 10 mil to box; he was offered 8 mil to fight Jones. The UFC was WANTING Ngannou to win during his fights against Stipe. He had everything going for him and blew it with sleeper performances against Lewis. Had he beaten Jones, he would have been regarded the best fighter in the world and setup for record breaking paydays. Unless he SOMEHOW beats Fury, he's going to be in a bad spot.
@Kgsoloman-ou6wm7 ай бұрын
@@Kgsoloman-ou6wm incorrect. He stands to make a minimum of 30 million from his mma matches in PFL. This is WITHOUT counting the money he will get from the Fury fight. Even if he loses… he won in life.
@nkodo227 ай бұрын
@@brandonsalinas2821acting like the UFC is barely making a profit is straight comedy 😂😂😂😂 thanks for that sir
@sabartransportation44567 ай бұрын
@@Kgsoloman-ou6wmI agree, And he won't beat Fury, that's for sure.
@viking.2007 ай бұрын
Dana making Don King look like a good guy 🤣
@tjjames68747 ай бұрын
Francis is one of the few fighters in a position who can speak out against the UFC. Others would have no where to go if they spoke out against the company.
@SirOrganic7 ай бұрын
When the negotiations were going on, all the meathead ufc "fans" were raging, calling Ngannou a coward for "avoiding" Jon. I'm glad Ngannou did his own thing. All the UFC fighters that are fine getting crumbs just because they say they are getting paid to punch someone need to realize that they deserve much more than the crumbs Dana tosses them.
@rangelvictor57597 ай бұрын
you can't help fools, though
@jamescaleb96767 ай бұрын
Pretty much hit the nail on the head bud
@WatchFunniestCommentsonYouTube7 ай бұрын
The love CTE too much. Will throw some names: Dustin Porier, Gaethje, Holloway, Ortega, Oliveira, Hooker, Burns, Thompson, Strickland, Whittaker, Vettori, Anthony Smith, Blaydes, Volkov, Tuivasa
@nonLEO3217 ай бұрын
Francis is an amazing man. It's easy to get caught up in his image, being a shredded heavyweight. But the man inside is even more impressive to me. Great podcast
@southcraw137 ай бұрын
Relaaaax .christ..😂
@topshelfgully71207 ай бұрын
Francis is the man!
@oceanwaves837 ай бұрын
@@topshelfgully7120dudes getting excited
@roberthutchinson28567 ай бұрын
Ngannou's English is not great, which can make it easy to underestimate how smart he is. He comes across as a very humble, and gentle giant, but he is clearly also a man who is not easily manipulated, and knows how to stand up for himself in a mature, calm, and calculated way. I have so much respect for him.
@syncmonism7 ай бұрын
@@syncmonism he's plenty intelligent and humble
@oceanwaves837 ай бұрын
Francis is 100% right on the sponsorships, and it isn't just him who's said it Brendan Schaub, Mark Hunt and others have too. That Reebok deal was and is criminal, just simply Dana seeing fighters making money that he wanted I don't care what way they spin it. And it is the biggest joke that after they took away the fighters ability to have sponsors, they then covered the octagon in them. So they literally took the Reebok money, and then money from some of the companies that sponsored fighters. Here, take pennies on the dollar from this deal that we're making way more on, oh and we'll also have your sponsors thanks. That is called having your cake, and eating it too. Honestly, sponsored shorts looked way cooler anyway. It added to the raw, renegade feel the company had back then. I still love it and part of me always will, but I can't lie there was something about it back then that the corporate slick outfit they are now just doesn't have, and removing the sponsorships was a part of it. Truly a golden era, that we'll likely never see any resemblence of again.
@aidanthomas25107 ай бұрын
Francis is too smart for his own good, he has incredible business sense I commend him for that immensely! I hope nothing but the best for the big guy and his family.
@rican2nhd7 ай бұрын
The UFC couldn’t give in to his demands because it would open the doors for all other fighters to change the system as well, Good for Francis
@socratese57 ай бұрын
Ehhh, thats what they say. But 99% of the roster can’t do what francis does. So they can’t really ask for the same thing
@RT-qz5ci7 ай бұрын
@@RT-qz5cifighters dont need to fight like Francis. They just have to be decent enough that companies wanna sponsor them.
@beesknees82967 ай бұрын
@@RT-qz5ciwhat kinda stats are you pulling. Ngannou is a big dude who was able to improve his technical skills but other than his popularity he’s just another heavyweight fighter. There’s tons of other fighters heavyweight or otherwise that should be allowed to negotiate their contracts, it shouldn’t only be allowed for “special” fighters lmao
@wasteplace17057 ай бұрын
@@wasteplace1705 i think you misunderstood what i was saying. I agree with you. Im saying the UFC could have easily given francis what he wanted and they should have. Their main concern was never really valid. Im all for the fighters getting paid, all of them
@RT-qz5ci7 ай бұрын
@@RT-qz5ciyou are a sheep 🐑 that why DW says it’s impossible and you believe it I think Francis have prove that it’s possible Hey, Mike Perry is getting his last laugh 😂😂😂😂 Still think ufc is the only game in town little bruh?
@RunForPeace-hk1cu7 ай бұрын
He's a very calculated and smart guy.
@robertdiengdoh7 ай бұрын
We're getting one side of the story, professor. I'm not saying he's lying or defending Dana white but this is only one perspective. Yell need to chill out.
@sooperd00p7 ай бұрын
Nobody really needs to listen to anything Dana has to say. @@sooperd00p
@damirregoc81117 ай бұрын
@@sooperd00p Do the math yourself and then comment again. Him getting 1.875% of the PPV revenue, while being the main fight of the night, is crazy!!! That probably means less than 20% of the PPV revenue is going to the fighters.
@tropical99137 ай бұрын
@@sooperd00p You are defending Dana, like the typical coperate shill, you lot are shameless.
@judah99067 ай бұрын
@@sooperd00p dana shills like u never cease to amase me. Do the math corporations will always try to shaft employees if they can. Their goal is to make as much profit as possible. Their goal is not to be good people.
@aristotle92437 ай бұрын
Honest young man, this Mr. Ngannou. I wish him all the best.
@loyalsonofamerica51857 ай бұрын
Ngannou's English is not great, which can make it easy to underestimate how smart he is. He comes across as a very humble, and gentle giant, but he is clearly also a man who is not easily manipulated, and knows how to stand up for himself in a mature, calm, and calculated way. I have so much respect for him.
@syncmonism7 ай бұрын
What videos are you watching ? ..... His English is very good.
@Mike-10007 ай бұрын
His English is good, his,native language is French. Its hard to get a rid of the french accent in English especially when you started learning it only a few years ago. What languages do you speak ?
@boristheb1ad3x677 ай бұрын
His English is excellent he speaks multiple languages. His accent is just heavy….that’s an insult even if you didn’t mean it like that
@WhosJusToi7 ай бұрын
@@boristheb1ad3x67his native language is not French he’s from Cameroon 🇨🇲. He speaks Ngemba, he had to learn French and English
@WhosJusToi7 ай бұрын
They have ruined the UFC with crap like this. Fighters getting paid 20k for a UFC fight is crazy and that would never slide in the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. Sport is dying because of greed.
@JadwinManuel7 ай бұрын
The world is dying from greed, it’s everywhere lol
@rfunder127 ай бұрын
False. It’s the same in other sports. The minimum salary for NFL is $750k, and that’s for the entire year. After paying the highest bracket of taxes, agents, personal expenses, etc. those players are also scraping by. The UFC’s annual revenue is $1B/year while the NFL’s annual revenue is $10B/year. I’m not saying UFC fighters shouldn’t get paid (they should). But comparing them to other sports is a terrible argument.
@reesingu9647 ай бұрын
@@reesingu964also NFL players perform sooo many times a year. But fighters, especially heavyweights, fight twice a year if that… Francis is just greedy.
@Gen74867 ай бұрын
Woah woah woah ! Dana needs another 1.4 million dollar samurai sword in his man cave. Let's chill. Dana can't keep playing 600,000 dollar black jack hands if people start talking outta pocket
@1981-A_R7 ай бұрын
@@reesingu964 percentage of revenue NFL players get 48%, percentage UFC fighters get 18%. Pretty clear comparison.
@pwr279867 ай бұрын
Francis’s biceps are literally the size of a normal humans head. Looking at them is crazy 😂😂😂😂
@ItsReplayBro7 ай бұрын
I can’t unsee it now lol!
@EasternDreamer6157 ай бұрын
😂😂😂you'd swear there's synthol in them
@NM213757 ай бұрын
Yeah...I thought 'What are those enormous things hanging on his arm?' 'Oh, they're biceps!'
@josepharmand61177 ай бұрын
@@NM21375for real, can’t imagine how big they are when he flexes 😂
@ItsReplayBro7 ай бұрын
Good on you Francis. He knew his worth and fought for it. $1.25 ppv revenue on an $80 cost is insane... should be double that at $2.25 with a $0.25 if it hits lets say 750k buys, so he earns based on how well the fight is promoted and does at the ppv box office
@apocalypsenow18717 ай бұрын
are you insane? 2.25 out of 80. in boxing the fighters get 50-60% which would be at least 40!
@jamescaleb96767 ай бұрын
@@jamescaleb9676boxing is a very very different structure.
@sirgriffinman7 ай бұрын
@@jamescaleb9676 Good Point, but they’re actually paying the undercard as well when it’s a PPV fight, so they’ll not only be paying for their team and camp but they’ll also be paying for everyone else on the card. The headline A side owns the show and pays out. They will still be left with a good percentage, more than 2% anyway.
@DavidBenidorm6 ай бұрын
@@DavidBenidorm undercard fighters in every sport get peanuts. the main event fighters get at least 50% of revenue. the level of abuse in mma is just unbelievable.
@jamescaleb96766 ай бұрын
People forget they have to pay to rent the Arena for 1 night hire people to build the ring pay the camera man the production team pay a doctor to come ,pay announcers security, people that that stamp ur tickets, pay refs pay judges pay all the fighters in the prelims and undercard and your opponent , pay ring card girls ,pay city taxes pay the commission pay construction workers to put up the lights that go above the ring there’s a lot of money that’s being spent to make the event and the ufc needs to make a profit to
@rudolfrednose56046 ай бұрын
He went to a boxing match and just made 10 millions!! Bravo Francis!!
@jrjoseph92136 ай бұрын
"After 99 dinners with Francis I still have no idea why he will not sing the new contract" Dana
@CharlieRamos137 ай бұрын
"He doesn't want to fight"-Dana (about anyone who won't sign one of his bullshit contracts)
@yusuf89387 ай бұрын
@yusuf8938 and then all of dana's little minion fans believe him lol dana could say the sky the green and they would believe him.
@Traypeats2 ай бұрын
Never really thought about it until Francis pointed it out. UFC has raised ppv prices so much during the years and the champs still get the same $1.25. $1.50, $2 for buys!
@WrestlingSimulations127 ай бұрын
Don’t be a boring draw
@jonathanhall97267 ай бұрын
@@jonathanhall9726Lmao if those guys are “boring” maybe the ufc as a whole is really the boring company lmao imagine calling knock out artists like Francis a boring draw sounds like a consumer problem lol
@user-fe1ri7hi2e7 ай бұрын
@@jonathanhall9726 Boring draws get fewer buys, what does that have to do with $ per buy…?
@Fl_ninja7 ай бұрын
@@jonathanhall972620% didtrubted minimum for the main card fighters or all fights for supercards
@Batman2StaticShock7 ай бұрын
$2 per pay preview is crazy I can't believe that that's an insult
@myview25437 ай бұрын
Aged like fine wine
@theheftheftyguy6 ай бұрын
The finest of wines lol
@BootyJuicee6 ай бұрын
Pretty cool to hear how level headed Francis is. Hope nothing but the best for him
@DavidVlogz7 ай бұрын
I have never seen such capable, fierce, giant of a man be so soft and inviting. His smile and his speech cadence are disarming you forget he could literally rip off your arms and beat you to death if he wanted to and there is nothing you could do to stop him.
@caddylover107 ай бұрын
You could shit your pants......Predators often lose interest when their pray defecates....
@lesshugah30037 ай бұрын
"rip off your arms and beat you to death" LOL that's why humans made spears, then bows & arrows then guns.... don't forget that reality bites HARD on the foolish....
@colonelferringeyes97147 ай бұрын
Alot of us Africans are gentle giants.
@Hammer19787 ай бұрын
He isn't the sharpest tool in the shed
@alexanderp80377 ай бұрын
Ask him out for a date?
@travisgoesthere7 ай бұрын
UFC pays fighters 15% of there revenue. It is the worst payout by a mile compared to other sports organizations. NBA gives its players 55% of there revenue
@henzoko59467 ай бұрын
basicaly fighters do all the work or the hard work, and get scraps for it, its like you work for a company, you make majority of the work that provides that big sum of $$$ but in the end all you get is scraps for it. thats exactly why not only fighters but workers/employees need to demand more.
@helioshyperion80777 ай бұрын
Their *
@jamesbrandon85707 ай бұрын
Prove it
@user-jy5ux1nn9i7 ай бұрын
How the nba still exists is shocking
@jjdillon12077 ай бұрын
Worst thing is that Dana wastes all that money gambling and it’s stupid
@VicioRay7 ай бұрын
This guy is so calm and so nice
@mandayashraf65807 ай бұрын
Glad this interview happened and Francis got a chance to clear his name. Much respect, champ. I'll watch you fight wherever you go!
@koo-data47427 ай бұрын
No one is believing that Joe Rogan doesn’t know this was happening at the UFC. This guy has never really advocated for fighters in any meaningful way. I am glad Ngannou had the balls no one has in the UFC to leave and prove that he can make all the money outside the UFC.
@clicklink1237 ай бұрын
Ehh, most in the UFC can't get a fight with Tyson Fury. Also, many are offered more money in the UFC than Ngannou. This is a perfect storm of a fighter not being worth much to the UFC but also being able to command top dollars from another MMA organization and the potential for a big money boxing match. What other UFC fighters fit that description?
@jesses54637 ай бұрын
I agree, its crazy to me that Joe doesn't say it publicly. Dana is a good friend to Joe so it makes sense but it also shows he doesn't give AF about fighters.
@MrOutPerform7 ай бұрын
@@MrOutPerform he wouldn’t be having Francis on discussing contract negotiations if that was the case, he’d have told him before the podcast started not to mention contract negotiations plus he’s been advocating for more weight classes so fighters can stop killing themselves trying to make weight. He obviously knows how the contracts work but he’s asking questions and playing dumb for the audience that doesn’t know.
@lighting1087 ай бұрын
Yea, I wonder why he had Francis on? 😅😂
@donovanramirez11207 ай бұрын
This is one way of giving fighters the chance to tell their story. That is helping.
@dejeon01957 ай бұрын
We missed all the true super fights. GSP/Silva, Silva/Jones, Silva/RJJ, and now Jones/Francis.
@Rammsteinfanboy27 ай бұрын
Jones/Francis was not really a super fight. Silva/Jones is a ridiculous mismatch of epic proportions. Cormier Silva went exactly as expected. As for RJJ, only complete morons like watching these MMA fighters get their asses kicked by boxers.
@jesses54637 ай бұрын
Thanks Dana
@personreanimation7 ай бұрын
how would Silva vs RJJ be a superfight? When Silva was dominating, Roy was way past it
@mikec54007 ай бұрын
If you listen to the whole interview, the PFL is willing to allow Francis to fight Jon Jones in the UFC while he's still in the PFL. It's up to Dana to allow that to happen.
@twerkysandwich647 ай бұрын
Couture vs Fedor
@jamesbishop82107 ай бұрын
At one stage I was a huge McGrgeor fan now I've come full circle and watch every video of Ngannou on YT.
@whodouthinkuare7 ай бұрын
Ngannou has great business patience and analytical point of view, I'd love to listen to him speak about business more
@l3a4c1m7 ай бұрын
Funny reading the comments here when few months ago fans were saying how stupid, greedy, and scared he was. Social media really shines a light on mob mentality and ignorance. I held no opinion on the matter either way because I am not privy to any negotiations, relationships with the parties involved. yet, fickle fans held strong opinions as if they were in the know. Glad Francis is able to share his side.
@m-jay3567 ай бұрын
Dang you really know your stuff
@TuckerWittenberg7 ай бұрын
@@TuckerWittenberg 🤔
@m-jay3567 ай бұрын
Well spoken -- Sanity is a VIRTUE!!
@Transcendent-Economics-1017 ай бұрын
Most people are fkd. Physically, emotionally and spirituality. Fkd.
@undisputed60347 ай бұрын
Ufc are fickles and tat is a rule
@changthao48757 ай бұрын
Francis low key best business man.
@NorCaLove17 ай бұрын
Yes his brain is underrated
@zulfanirich75947 ай бұрын
really. after he loses with fury, his value will drop by 90%
@rb98887 ай бұрын
@@rb9888overstatement and he will have still made his bank anyways, and still has a future fighting in MMA, so he's won either way
@alexwilliams47817 ай бұрын
@@rb9888yet that loss will make him more than an entire career in the ufc, yeah Francis definitely isn’t smart you should be his manager
@Clustehh7 ай бұрын
@@Clustehh we will see. he reminds me of ike. let's hope he's not going to end like him
@rb98887 ай бұрын
Strong and smart. Hell of a guy right here. Rare
@yply.o.78777 ай бұрын
Dana is poisonous at this point. He was a necessary evil at the start but now I don’t think he can do what someone else can do. They need to change the he face now. I love what Dana has done but I’ve gone from liking him to finding him insufferable
@kaizen202057 ай бұрын
Regime change needed I agree , he’s not fit for the role anymore.
@rothsteina7 ай бұрын
Keep Dana as the face of the company but Endeavour(who own the UFC) need to make some changes.
@AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xm7 ай бұрын
Respect to Ngannou. I work in the corporate world and I see people getting taken of advantage of so many times, just based on what people perceive them to be. Ngannou is slept on in regards to his business awareness. They hear his accent and perceive him to be unintelligent because of a "language barrier", but if you just listen to him for a couple of minutes and pay attention, it's VERY CLEAR that he his much more than a fighter. His business sense is very impressive as well.
@TheOriginalArchie7 ай бұрын
Especially considering this dude was literally in the mine till he was like 20 with no formal education
@same08827 ай бұрын
He literally couldn't sell a ppv to save his life. Given his look, fighting style, and accomplishments he probably had the worst branding in all of UFC. The guy got a great opportunity and took a risk which appears to be paying off, but lets not act like this guy is Conor McGregor. Sell some ppvs first.
@jesses54637 ай бұрын
hes a knockout machine, what more do you want?@@jesses5463
@DieByWolf7 ай бұрын
@@justso-gr3jj Conor couldn't break his contract with the UFC. The UFC aka Zuffa co-promoted his boxing match. That was the biggest payday the UFC ever had. They would love to shovel another pile of crap like that to the braindead masses.
@jesses54637 ай бұрын
@@jesses5463honestly I don’t get why, Francis was a fucking specimen and his run was shocking…people getting folded left right and centre from non technical punches, almost no one could do shit to him despite his lack of experience. Then the rematch with stipe, ngannou could have gone on to be the best heavyweight in history with an insane story to match his skills/genetics. This version of Francis doesn’t get people interested? I suppose if he got purple hair and started talking non-stop shit he would get more of the blinded casual fan base involved. Anyone who was an actual fan of the sport never missed an ngannou fight because your witnessing greatness and a potential death 😂
@Clustehh7 ай бұрын
All the people saying that was a good pay and Francis shouldn't have left, please look up the breakdown of a fighter's paycheck. Recently, some UFC fighter that fought in Australia recently broke down his 50k$ paycheck. After taxes to Australia, additional income tax, airline tickets, coaching and gym fees, he was left with 10-15k$. Hospital fees or whatever not included. They are basically fighting for free and idk why you guys would stick up for Dana White of all people? Fighters deserve more pay.
@faraaz1447 ай бұрын
Any injuries that require medical attention is paid for by the UFC as long as it happened during a fight.
@javiergonzalez42835 ай бұрын
My man worked on his English and His Pronunciations Is Very Good, I Can Understand Him. Salute The Brother. God Bless Him.👊🏿
@edadams3767 ай бұрын
Tremendous respect for ngannou. He bet on himself and won and now has leverage in boxing and mma to negotiate with the top prize fighters. I’m surprised that more of the top ufc fighters haven’t taken a similar route. Their careers fighting at a championship level are very short. They are talent and the ufc continues to exploit them paying pennies on the dollar.
@legittaco38704 ай бұрын
Francis was smart. He bet on himself and his well being. If IFC isn’t gonna give him a proper bag, cross the street. Really wanted that Jones vs Ngannou though. I seriously believe Ngannou would’ve given Jones a run for his money.
@segastationx7 ай бұрын
Likely Jones takes him down fight over.
@forrestedmountains70817 ай бұрын
Especially after a couple of key bumps
@briankraft19387 ай бұрын
There still fighting idiot 😂
@armeniankenneth20887 ай бұрын
@@forrestedmountains7081if we learned anything from his second stipe fight, his take down defense improved, and all he had to do was touch stipe to compromise him. I could see Jones shooting, Francis defending, and after a few punches from Francis, Jones would be rethinking his strategy.
@alexbell88657 ай бұрын
Francis is alot stronger than Gane which was very clear in their fight so despite Jones being a better wrestler it´s not going to be as easy as Gane was for him and it´s just as likely that Francis hits Jones with power he´s never felt before and puts him out cold.. thats kind of the X factor you get with Francis that he can literally turn anybodys lights off... thats why everybody wants to see it.@@forrestedmountains7081
@silenceisprecious82817 ай бұрын
Probably the only guy who went against Dana White and won.
@robertdiengdoh7 ай бұрын
LOL. Dude hasn’t stepped foot in a ring or cage, and hasn’t received a single dollar for a fight yet. Just wait dude, this comment will age hilariously
@Dahn.Baern.7 ай бұрын
@0waggoner He's got the Tyson fury fight, if he makes 20 million off of that, he makes way more than a 8 fight deal in the ufc.
@Joshpower577 ай бұрын
@@Joshpower57No way he’ll make that, the fight against Fury doesn’t have a hype that thought it would…
@ernestmilos73207 ай бұрын
@@Joshpower57that is a distorted argument because he's only making that much due to the size of Tyson Fury's name (which is also why the promotions agreed to it). Francis is a shit marketer, if he invests that purse into a solid marketing team, with his abilities he could command a lot more.
@SBayne7627 ай бұрын
@@SBayne762 Hes also making that much due to the size of his name and the fact that he was HW champ. People know francis.
@aristotle92437 ай бұрын
I’m so happy for Francis
@guy.darnell7 ай бұрын
Ngannou radiating health, prosperity and happiness now
@MaverickLee117 ай бұрын
I can see his point. They raised prices by a third but only payout by 20% $1.67 per buy shouldn’t be too much to ask for.
@netfishandchill12007 ай бұрын
That % is actually pretty solid IF it's worldwide PPV. If it's only American they definitely could bump it etc
@spsawyer227 ай бұрын
Pardon my ignorance, may i ask you guys why? I mean if the PPV is 80$, isn't 1.67$ absurdly low? Are the costs so high?
@LorenzoGalassi17 ай бұрын
@@LorenzoGalassi1it is absurdly low when you consider most of the people buying his PPVs are because of the attention Francis's name brings edit: *_please forgive my ignorance I thought people gave af about the guy 😞_*
@RockyBoyBalboa7 ай бұрын
@@RockyBoyBalboalol when was Francis a ppv draw?
@bend42367 ай бұрын
@@RockyBoyBalboa But Francis did not pull PPV numbers
@kelvinsanyaolu9957 ай бұрын
Is it me or did his english improve CRAZY since his first JRE episode?
@4fingaz7 ай бұрын
Francis improves very fast with his fighting also everytime, he learns quick
@DJZ64X7 ай бұрын
He's been training with Mike so practicing in real-time usually helps people learn a language faster.
@thedave14287 ай бұрын
@@thedave1428 Almost read this like he was learning crisp english from Mike, lol
@morkyredeyes7 ай бұрын
@@DJZ64X Mike & Teddy said the same about the boxing techniques they took time to show him as well!!
@Transcendent-Economics-1017 ай бұрын
Not just you. Massive difference.
@SoldatDiz7 ай бұрын
I’m behind Francis.
@renderpeach7 ай бұрын
We couldn't see you. 🤣
@infiad12757 ай бұрын
win or lose, i'm just glad it worked out for him, since at one stage it looked very uncertain for him. Very glad.
@RagingUtai7 ай бұрын
rogan most likely already knew all of this. hes great at feigning ignorance, thats his job
@kevinyunseokim81947 ай бұрын
Why would he be involved in dealmaking with the fighters? Like seriously how does it relate to his commentating job and how would the UFC benefit from him being looped in
@dahui587 ай бұрын
@@dahui58 sorry, im not claiming he has some insider information (which he probably does as a UFC commentator but thays brsides the point) but rather hes smart enough and heard enough fighters talk about the pay issue and figured out for himself what ngannou was saying. He orob didnt know the exact value ofc but he knew ngannou wouldve been cheaped out fkr him to leVe
@kevinyunseokim81947 ай бұрын
@@kevinyunseokim8194 fair enough, tbf this sort of negotiation occurs in most contracts/jobs etc. Anyone probably would know UFC would try and pay as low as they can get away with. But yeah Joe probably has more of an idea on it than the average.... joe
@dahui587 ай бұрын
Bro, don't talk reckless without any proof. That's so wrong on your part.
@DogWater20117 ай бұрын
@@DogWater2011 swallow a load
@kevinyunseokim81947 ай бұрын
Francis appears to be a man of his word. I love how he said it was not so much just the amount (on the ppv) ) it was more about the proportion UFC goes from 60-80 & only gives.25 to the fighter. Then obviously after he decides to leave they say you can have everything & back pay too..Obviously it shows you’ve been very unfair. Very disrespectful to a major attraction for the UFC. Greed is ridiculous-these guys are breaking limbs- AND its not like the UFC is struggling!
@theelf1527 ай бұрын
It seems like it all paid of in the end. Francis Ngannou P4P #1 human on the world
@onliner_6 ай бұрын
Francis seems like a cool chill dude! 👍
@Blasko867 ай бұрын
My heart sank when Francis described his meeting with that guy Hunter. They are playing the fighters for fools. Hunter is worth over 50 million. Taking advantage of young naive guys that just want to fight. They don't know any better and when they are grow and learn-it will be too late for them-and the UFC will have already used them for $$. Best wishes to Frances. Can't wait to buy his PPV!
@stevenr51497 ай бұрын
Taking advantage of workers is literally what every business does in America. Nobody starts a business to make workers happy as opposed to making profit. The fact people are outraged at this like it isn’t the norm is nuts
@TH-yt6xv7 ай бұрын
I think the reason the ufc can justify the only very small uptick in ppv points given to fighters, while having increased the cost of ppv so much, is because their business model has shifted away from ppv and towards television deals. We don’t often see them, but in many markets, tv stations pay big bucks to exclusively air ufc events. However, I also think that the ufc made this shift in part to reduce the bargaining power of the fighters. In the past, a big fighter could easily calculate their value to the company. Now a lot of that value is hidden in these TV contracts.
@TTyger7 ай бұрын
UFC doesnt control PPV price anymore, thats ESPNs fault
@Darkgale697 ай бұрын
idiotic. its a single event and the only question is how to split the money between entertainers and management. only ufc is so broken that the athletes get peanuts. and the mma fans are just beyond stupid.
@jamescaleb96767 ай бұрын
@@Darkgale69that’s what he said you idiot
@flamerz3657 ай бұрын
Noone talks about how dumb the sponsorships looked. I still remember Burger King on Anderson Silva's shorts.
@baektpotato7 ай бұрын
Well done Francis for battling your corner. He will make more from one fight in “dead” boxing than all of his other fights combined.
@damiantosd87207 ай бұрын
Dana is a company man. He does what is in the best interest of the company. How can you blame Ngannou for doing the same.
@garrydye23947 ай бұрын
Not a company man. He is the company but being a billionaire is not enough. Rogan said that when Dana gambles, he bets millions. That comes at the expense of the fighters, Dana rips them off.
@nccamsc7 ай бұрын
I'm really hoping the lawsuit going against the UFC succeeds and fighters get their due. They always short change them and give them unfavorable deals, but the mother company has enough money to buy WWE. Absolutely ridiculous stuff!
@NickPR877 ай бұрын
Start your own promotion and pay the fighters how you think they should be paid........ I just love how people wanna tell other people how to run their business. Francis doesn't like the contract, so he's not fighting.... A contract is between two people......
@learningcurve32127 ай бұрын
@@learningcurve3212 Exactly. Also, there's other promotions they can go to if they feel the UFC isn't paying them enough.
@timbatee74337 ай бұрын
@@learningcurve3212 This,I think ngannou should run a fighting promotion because he have the 'business mindset',why he go bitching about dana,equal pay and shit,ufc pathway to these fighters to become popular,tv time,appear in movies,sponsorship elsewhere.
@sumobo71087 ай бұрын
Go blow Dana White behind 7/11. You couldn't run a lemonade stand.@@learningcurve3212
@ClayLud7 ай бұрын
@learningcurve3212 That logic is beyond terrible. You could justify people working for nothing with that. The UFC just needs to allow independent sponsors which they should already. Its already been mentioned that stopping fighters from having sponsors is a shady area of law since the fighters are considered as independent contractors.
@AbdirahmanIdris-ku9xm7 ай бұрын
The fighters need to take a stand against the ufc
@darellstreeter68857 ай бұрын
Damn!!! guy is good fighter and quiet intelligent too...good life
@thelast10907 ай бұрын
Respect to rogan as well for giving ngannou the podium to express his frustration with the ufc even though its joes bread and butter.
@joshualt17757 ай бұрын
Biceps crazy
@alibaba04287 ай бұрын
The ufc will always want the biggest slice of the pie
@houstonpromotion7 ай бұрын
Thanks Joe for letting him expose them
@markeec12347 ай бұрын
His biceps are so unreal dude
@devynbrinsfield7 ай бұрын
was thinkin the same thing
@jdg29217 ай бұрын
are they bigger than usual? never saw them pop like that, training changes? or does he never wear short sleeves? its a tight shirt but still
@marcinczapski85477 ай бұрын
@@marcinczapski8547 its probably the short sleeves now, but his biceps always looked big anyway.
@badrrharri7 ай бұрын
They really did him dirty, it shouldn't be surprising UFC is just horrible to their fighters. 16% revenue share when other sports are at 49 and 50 bellator even over 50%
@velder227 ай бұрын
UFC Pays more than any other company. Fighters die to go tO UFC
@fred89pj7 ай бұрын
@@fred89pj I don't know what the hell you're talking about NBA NFL make way more money on a percentage than any UFC fighters do. You got fighters going in there risking their lives and they still have to get a side job that's fukd. You have fighters with GoFundMe because they can't afford to train and go to work at the same. 16% revenue split is a fucking joke! Bellator is 50% revenue split
@velder226 ай бұрын
@@fred89pj they were giving Francis 600,000 for his fights, he just made 10 million for one fight.
@velder226 ай бұрын
that is correct, I was referring to MMA companies, no other MMA company pays more on average that UFC. Good for Francis@@velder22
@fred89pj6 ай бұрын
Man alot of us were misinformed n totally wrong for calling out francis wen he left the ufc a hw champion. He has more than proved he had a plan after ufc with a vision n dream n kept faith wen everyone was in doubt saying he fumbled the bag etc. I admit i thought so too but i do apologise for it, i wish n hope nothing but the best for ngannou
@A-DUBCLUB7 ай бұрын
All the best for the future. Nganou 👍
@mohdnasir-wr5lb7 ай бұрын
If boxing is dead then it should be no problem for Dana to allow Francis to box
@seeno17 ай бұрын
Now he's going to make probably triple the money in one boxing match then his entire UFC career 😮 good for him he deserves it UFC is trash for how they treat and pay there fighters the people who make them all of their money 💰 smh
@nosferatu34757 ай бұрын
That's awesome for Francis, the UFC has arguably elevated his profile to the point where he now able to command that money
@Randomlynam3d7 ай бұрын
even more
@spaxxware7 ай бұрын
man he sounds so gentle 😂
@jz57486 ай бұрын
Fighters should definitely be allowed to have sponsors man
@rondofuentes62717 ай бұрын
Damn, I LOVE Francis. HE is a gentle giant with the power to rip your limbs off, lol. He is so softly spoken and truly intelligent and well rounded. What a guy. Wish he would make a comeback on his standards and pay to UFC and reign supreme with a fight against John Jones!!!!!! LETS GO :D
@Blastedyerface7 ай бұрын
Who's John?
@lamosos7 ай бұрын
Current Heavy Weight UFC Champ, He loves to Eye Poke and break the law and live a weird lifestyle of abuse.@@lamosos
@Blastedyerface7 ай бұрын
His bicep is about to knock me out just looking at it, Jesus!!
@mysoggypants1017 ай бұрын
This man fights sharks in and out of the ring. What a legend.
@nate32745 ай бұрын
PERFECT Cuts
@upvotecomment21107 ай бұрын
The only thing that bothered me about Francis leaving is there is literally no interesting heavyweight MMA fights for him outside of the UFC. And I watch all the organizations. Most of them or washed up or just garbage. Who is there? The one big Russian guy in ONEFC. That’s legitimately the only interesting match up.
@RahShanProductionsMTU7 ай бұрын
What about Braden Schaub
@Rob-J-BJJ7 ай бұрын
🤣@@Rob-J-BJJ
@Transcendent-Economics-1017 ай бұрын
Malykhin, the Sweet One? Boy does that guy pack a punch. Three division champ. Too bad he'd getting a bit old, but still, such an impressive streak.
@TheTeodorsoldierabvbАй бұрын
Imagine being a maincard and you get 1.50/80
@missionpupa7 ай бұрын
That's like 1.5 million plus whatever his show and win money is plus 50k if he gets a KO.
@fundamentalbear83477 ай бұрын
youre missing the point, they can take of all of that and just give him a fair share of the PPV. youre getting baited in these "packaged deals" that look attractive, but youre really getting fked in the azz @@fundamentalbear8347
@missionpupa7 ай бұрын
@@fundamentalbear8347nah! He only got paid 500k , he had 300k ppv in his last fight, do the math
@sam.a90837 ай бұрын
It should be at least 5
@iffysd98647 ай бұрын
He's a lot smarter than people give him credit for...
@mastaskilla7 ай бұрын
Gotta be bout your business and the sooner you learn the better👌🏾
@thisnthat.7 ай бұрын
Nothing but respect for this amazing guy!!!
@gerardovenegas46107 ай бұрын
The UFC crams advertisements all over the PPVs and the octagon but fighters can’t have a patch or two to make extra. What’s crazy is that the fighters can make way more money and the UFC didn’t even have to pay.
@NASkeywest7 ай бұрын
Its ridiculous that the ufc doesnt even allow the fighters to have at least on sponsor
@jefbiggs15837 ай бұрын
Surely the PFL are pretty pissed at all this
@user-rs1iq3kt6l7 ай бұрын
Man they edited the hell out of Francis during this clip!
@mattzeccardi26787 ай бұрын
Probably copyright reasons
@time.28697 ай бұрын
Copyright issue. This is mma bouts channel not the original source.
@dantesos75647 ай бұрын
Uncle Daner = the Don King of MMA
@ddevenba6r2887 ай бұрын
The most dangerous heavyweight MMA fighter is a soft spoken gentleman
$1.50 per pay per view when the UFC sell 1+million pay per views he’s making $1,500,000 just on that alone. Not to mention show and win money plus outside endorsements. Assuming $500,000 show and $500,000 win. He’s bringing in $2,500,000 not counting outside endorsements for 12 weeks of hard training to prepare for 1-5 rounds of fighting. That’s great money… but I do see the argument where these guys want to make double that because of how tough this professional is on their body and minds.
That's a lot of dough indeed, but his main issue is knowing the PPV earnings of Jones, Conor, and Izzy. They make at least 10 million each, so that's why he found the Deal disrespectful.
Every body doesn’t sell1 million paper views and 1.50 as the champ is definitely a slap in the face
His outside endorsements should have no factor in what the UFC pays him/ or his UFC contract. His outside endorsements are what his management team works to get him and they take a pretty healthy cut of it too.
@@MMABoutsOfficial I didn’t know those figures were confirmed for Jones/Izzy/conor. Always been curious to know contractual details for those guys. But also to be fair conor has sold over a million PPVs and holds most of the top 10 PPV of all time with Floyd. So he’s in his own league and should be rewarded as such in my opinion. Wish ngannou was able to do the boxing fight in his deal and make 30+ million that way with them. But it looks like it all worked itself out.
@@Drizzylaflair I think if you want more than $1.50 you need to be deserving of that. You need to command the audiences to want to buy your PPV fights like o’Malley, Conor, and others do. He’s a very talented fighter with amazing knockout skills, but a lot of people aren’t too excited to pay for his fights just looking at the stats. Not sure why that is, but I guess there should be more points in the table for champions as a standard. You fight for cheap for so many years and once you wear the gold belt you should be rewarded as a UFC champion. 5% of the PPV would be $4.00. So maybe that’s the magic number at a PPv cost of $80. Hard to say
Dana: "Boxing is dead." Also Dana: "Box with Jon Jones instead Fury." Dana White is a clown.
He never told fury to box jones he told him to fight jones in MMA……..
Also Dana: "Slap contests are the new big thing!!" He really is a joke. He ONLY cares about making money for his owners and I mean his "owners" literally. He's just a pawn.
@@Ibanez527he know jon Jones will take big fat L cuz he is not that guy in boxing.
Dana's right, boxing is dead. The only boxing matches people have talked about for the last 5 years are the circus events with youtubers and retired mma fighters. Once this fad dies out, boxing dies out with it.
@@genocidejoe and fury would take a big fat L in mma.. I’m not sure what your point is.
Francis is looking out for himself. You can't blame him for that. I'm with you Francis. These fighters are independent contractors. Wouldn't you want to look out for your business also?
The UFC gave him the platform to become successful. FN is the dumbest athlete of all time. He flushed hundreds of millions
UFC gave Ngannou an opportunity and look where he is at now. Dude went from shoveling sand to having a car collection with the crown jewel being a Rolls-Royce Phantom VII worth close to $500,000. "They Offered $1.50 per $80 PPV!" Dude acts like there isn't security crew, cameramen crew, commentary crew, octagon construction crew, etc... that also need pay
Very soft spoken and intelligent man
@@jspringer86 Okay and he fulfilled his obligations to UFC the contract was over, he is suppose to kiss Dana ass forever because of an opportunity, fuck outta here
@@jspringer86the pay deserved by all those workers are to be paid by the UFC, not Francis. An excellent employee shouldn’t be forced to pay the sick leave wages of his coworkers just to do his boss a favor, makes 0 sense to say FRANCIS is the one that should be thinking of factoring in the wage potentials of the janitors at the Stadium when he’s renegotiating his contract. Dana has a multi BILLION dollar company and openly attempts to cuck his “contractors” from finding any other streams of revenue outside of the UFC. Dana is a leech
UFC saw Francis as someone incredibly profitable, an income generator who wouldn’t ask for much because he came from nothing and speaks no English. Meanwhile Francis learns English, gets the belt and shows himself as the most intelligent fighter ever in his dealings with the promotion.
Exactly.
lets be real...noboby was buying francis ppv cards lol
I’d say he is far from the smartest. McGregor, Izzy and all the other superstars are financially a lot more stable and more popular. But atleast he is doing what he wants to do
He wasn't a big pay per view seller
If you’re a big star like Conor you get a lot of leverage.
I am amazed how a man: - with no education is so educated - with crazy physical presence is so calm
He also speaks three languages now! French, English & his native tongue!
He is very educated. Just not the kinda of "educated" in your sense of the word.
He got his education in real life experiences as he wanted to learn and progress and not huddle up in self-pity and defeatism. Great Fighter 💪 & Great Ambassador for the Fight Game
A man with a legit dream. Every person like ngannou do be like that
He learns those real life lessons. Some you just don’t need school to learn.
Dana White says Boxing is Dead but ALL His fighters want to fight Boxers in a boxing ring. Let that sink in…
They want to cash out with the one fight that'll make them a lot of money. If they fought some regular guys, they'd make much than you think.
If he paid his fighters professional sports salaries it wouldn’t matter.
All his fighters? Really? ALL of them?
@@gilbertoflores7397 even if they want to cash out on 1 fight that should still be on the table for UFC fighters especially if UFC gets to decide on which boxing fight that is. If it was any fight and many sure you'd have a point but having a clause in there for UFC to decide/make the offer then both the UFC and the fighter would benefit financially from the deal so not quite sure what's holding UFC back from cashing in on that unless they're scared of the fact it would devalue their champs if they all lose boxing fights
He also watches boxing matches cage side lol..Dana is full of shit
The no sponsorships deal is the biggest one. Schaub showed his receipts for the money that he got from sponsorships and it was huge. It dwarfed any purse they got. And this was Brendan Schaub, let that sink in. Imagine if this was Francis. And all because the UFC wants a bigger cut of any sponsor the fighters would get.
part of it is some fighters got some pretty dumb sponsors
@@Darkgale69yeah man the ufc totally made a deal with Reebok out of concern for who the fighters were sponsored by... OK
@@Darkgale69 no excuse as so many ways around that. All the UFC would have to do is vet each sponsor or set up some type of affiliate programme for companies to sponsor their fighters at least. The ufc could put so many rules in place for sponsors and it would still be beneficial to both fighters and sponsors
@@Darkgale69 Francis addresses this in the video. He says the UFC should simply review, and have the ability to veto sponsors if they don't align with the UFC brand.
@@Darkgale69That sounds like the dumb argument Dana made a while ago. Doesn't UFC have condom sponsors, alcohol sponsors, and gambling sponsors? Isn't Logan Paul a major UFC sponsor through Prime? How could any fighters sponsors be that bad? The only thing UFC is missing is adult companies... and we'll have to give that some time to see what happens lol Even then, UFC could give restrictions to the types of sponsors they allow. But it seems like for now, if fighters want sponsors they have to shout them out during their post fight interview.
Respect to this guy. Nothing better than a serious tough man who is soft spoken, very rational, and can share emotionally charged facts with respect and as much honesty as might be prudent while swimming with understandable sharks. Have never done a deep dive on Francis and his skills and record but I'm a fan now. What a temperament and business savvy on this guy. 👍 Thanks MMA Bouts. 🙏
True gentleman
From working at a sand mine in Cameroon to being paid millions of dollars for a fight is no easy task. Francis is an absolute legend, the man is a fighter to the core if you think about it. Initially thought he was just physically gifted but the real talent lies in his heart, willing to endure and prevail at the end. Hollywood should make a movie out of it honestly.
After the first Miocic fight he was scared shitless and had one of the worst UFC matches ever vs Lewis. Now I like Francis as much as the next guy, but let's leave this "legend, fighter to the core, heart of a warrior" hype bullshit away
@@arjuken8he stumbled, doesn't mean he's not a legend. Can you imagine getting beat on by a guy like Stipe for 4 rounds and not having it effect your psyche? Ngannou got cocky, knocked down, but then regrouped and got back into the game. Even won his last MMA fight by wrestling on a bumb knee (the same as way he lost to Stipe). He was young and missed a step, doesn't mean he's not a legend.
Seems like his true power is not understanding how a business is run and destroying his earning potential in the process.
@slayerhuh404 his boxing purse says otherwise 😂 Dana has the "independent contractor" hypnosis that the WWE has. Apparently if you convince your guys that you have a monopoly on their earning potential, they believe it. They fucked up by letting McGregor fight Mayweather 😂
Weird how everything Francis says is calm and respectful, still doesn't trash Dana or the UFC and frankly, it all just adds up! Meanwhile, Dana trashes ANYONE that even just sees out their contract and makes manic accusations on their way out that make no sense... 🤔
Of course because he will say and do what makes him and the ufc the most money.
How us Africans are
Is a business as a man you should never bring your emotions and Ego in a business meeting.
One has good belief set. The other tries to control narratvie
that's damn right! dana starts spittin and sputtering trying to get his words out and then either doesn't make sense or contradicts himself cuz he knows they do their fighters dirty af SMFH. then he'll say some shit about fighting for pride or the belt...as if they can't do that and make sure they don't end up broke also!
Francis Ngannou vs. Jon Jones would have been awesome. The UFC was absurd.
Francis would have lost like Gane
@@chiquita683don't think so homie
The ufc prefer to loose money rather than let fighters make with ufc as team .
So when ya hear Dana White says “the best boxers don’t fight the best boxers at times” remember how Dana White has personally BLOCKED certain HUGE FIGHTS in the UFC.
@@izqwiz1746He'd put up more of a fight than Gane but Jones would definitely win imo
The most underrated thing about Francis is his IQ, this man is wicked gifted, the way he can absorbd knowledge. No one i know learn to fight different styles in such short time.
And from zero English to being able to articulate himself so clearly. Try having the same conversation with Diaz, Gaethje or any other American fighter
People say that but in every clip about him I see tons of comments saying how smart he is so I don't think its underrated
Imagine being offered 1.8% for your effort and people thinking thats a heck of a deal🤦♂
What do you think it costs to promote a fight a create a PPV event?
Love how Francis speaks like we're all sitting round a cracking fire deep in the woods, flames flickering on a circle of faces listening in wonderment.
Thats a rich description of the power of whispers friendo
Francis could have a solid career doing audio books if he wanted.
@@dfpguitar eh if it was an African story sure, otherwise it would be weird listening to him narrate a random story
I feel that man. Hes a real human. Hes been through some real stuff
@@dfpguitarhaha love that idea
i agree with him on alot of the things he was asking for. theres no reason the ufc couldnt allow fighters to have 1-2 sponsor patches on there uniforms. with the raised ppv prices champions should be receiving wayyy more than .25 cents of the increase thats insulting.
There is a reason, but the UFC has the answer. It most likely boils down to money/power, at its root.
They said they offered him a 1.50. which I agree they could still offer a couple dollars more. Francis wanted more cuz there's no way he's selling a million ppv
Let's say the UFC has Rebok and Cocacola for sponsors. Rebok and Cocacola don.t want you to having your fighters promoting Nike, or Pepsi. They cut the UFC big checks for exclusive promotion. There was a clothing company named TapOut that made a lot of money through the UFC by having fighters wear thier gear. The UFC got nothing, and had no rights to TapOut. Dana learned from that mistake.
@davidkunkle3262 Yeah, Jon vs. Francis wouldn't have sold a million 🤡
Venom pay premium bucks to ensure they are the only sponsor. As soon as fighters are allowed to use their own patches the value of the deal massively decreases. It provides a baseline guarantee for fighters at the bottom of the spectrum that may not have any sponsors. (Ofcourse they could get more but it does help certainly some!!)
I really like Ngannou. His story and where he came from to where he is today is amazing!!
The more I hear about UFC contracts, the more I feel like Dana is intentionally trying to prevent them from making money
if u are smart enough, you should know employers dont want their employees to make enough money to live life rent free, those employers want you to NEED them. hence why they underpay everyone. its market manipulation 101 u guys need to wake the f up and see how rigged the system is
Of course, gotta keep fighting
Slavery
He is. He has said it multiple times
When has Dana EVER NOT upheld his end of the contract. He offers fights, promotes, and always pays them. If fighter can't understand the contract he/she signed... that's on them. Fighters negotiate, and willingly agree to sign the dotted line
So happy for Francis! I hope people realize how dirty the UFC was trying to do him....and still doing to fighters 😢
What do you even mean? The ufc needs to profit. Hid last ppv didn’t sell. Literally 300k. That’s horrible. Did he get free promotion his whole career? Free food from the pi? Free physical therapy? Free surgeries? Yes to all. Is Francis paying all the analysts and commentators? The judges? The venue fee? The cutmen refs? I’m boxing none of this stuff is free like he had it. The pfl will lose money every time fights.
He's making 10 mil to box; he was offered 8 mil to fight Jones. The UFC was WANTING Ngannou to win during his fights against Stipe. He had everything going for him and blew it with sleeper performances against Lewis. Had he beaten Jones, he would have been regarded the best fighter in the world and setup for record breaking paydays. Unless he SOMEHOW beats Fury, he's going to be in a bad spot.
@@Kgsoloman-ou6wm incorrect. He stands to make a minimum of 30 million from his mma matches in PFL. This is WITHOUT counting the money he will get from the Fury fight. Even if he loses… he won in life.
@@brandonsalinas2821acting like the UFC is barely making a profit is straight comedy 😂😂😂😂 thanks for that sir
@@Kgsoloman-ou6wmI agree, And he won't beat Fury, that's for sure.
Dana making Don King look like a good guy 🤣
Francis is one of the few fighters in a position who can speak out against the UFC. Others would have no where to go if they spoke out against the company.
When the negotiations were going on, all the meathead ufc "fans" were raging, calling Ngannou a coward for "avoiding" Jon. I'm glad Ngannou did his own thing. All the UFC fighters that are fine getting crumbs just because they say they are getting paid to punch someone need to realize that they deserve much more than the crumbs Dana tosses them.
you can't help fools, though
Pretty much hit the nail on the head bud
The love CTE too much. Will throw some names: Dustin Porier, Gaethje, Holloway, Ortega, Oliveira, Hooker, Burns, Thompson, Strickland, Whittaker, Vettori, Anthony Smith, Blaydes, Volkov, Tuivasa
Francis is an amazing man. It's easy to get caught up in his image, being a shredded heavyweight. But the man inside is even more impressive to me. Great podcast
Relaaaax .christ..😂
Francis is the man!
@@topshelfgully7120dudes getting excited
Ngannou's English is not great, which can make it easy to underestimate how smart he is. He comes across as a very humble, and gentle giant, but he is clearly also a man who is not easily manipulated, and knows how to stand up for himself in a mature, calm, and calculated way. I have so much respect for him.
@@syncmonism he's plenty intelligent and humble
Francis is 100% right on the sponsorships, and it isn't just him who's said it Brendan Schaub, Mark Hunt and others have too. That Reebok deal was and is criminal, just simply Dana seeing fighters making money that he wanted I don't care what way they spin it. And it is the biggest joke that after they took away the fighters ability to have sponsors, they then covered the octagon in them. So they literally took the Reebok money, and then money from some of the companies that sponsored fighters. Here, take pennies on the dollar from this deal that we're making way more on, oh and we'll also have your sponsors thanks. That is called having your cake, and eating it too. Honestly, sponsored shorts looked way cooler anyway. It added to the raw, renegade feel the company had back then. I still love it and part of me always will, but I can't lie there was something about it back then that the corporate slick outfit they are now just doesn't have, and removing the sponsorships was a part of it. Truly a golden era, that we'll likely never see any resemblence of again.
Francis is too smart for his own good, he has incredible business sense I commend him for that immensely! I hope nothing but the best for the big guy and his family.
The UFC couldn’t give in to his demands because it would open the doors for all other fighters to change the system as well, Good for Francis
Ehhh, thats what they say. But 99% of the roster can’t do what francis does. So they can’t really ask for the same thing
@@RT-qz5cifighters dont need to fight like Francis. They just have to be decent enough that companies wanna sponsor them.
@@RT-qz5ciwhat kinda stats are you pulling. Ngannou is a big dude who was able to improve his technical skills but other than his popularity he’s just another heavyweight fighter. There’s tons of other fighters heavyweight or otherwise that should be allowed to negotiate their contracts, it shouldn’t only be allowed for “special” fighters lmao
@@wasteplace1705 i think you misunderstood what i was saying. I agree with you. Im saying the UFC could have easily given francis what he wanted and they should have. Their main concern was never really valid. Im all for the fighters getting paid, all of them
@@RT-qz5ciyou are a sheep 🐑 that why DW says it’s impossible and you believe it I think Francis have prove that it’s possible Hey, Mike Perry is getting his last laugh 😂😂😂😂 Still think ufc is the only game in town little bruh?
He's a very calculated and smart guy.
We're getting one side of the story, professor. I'm not saying he's lying or defending Dana white but this is only one perspective. Yell need to chill out.
Nobody really needs to listen to anything Dana has to say. @@sooperd00p
@@sooperd00p Do the math yourself and then comment again. Him getting 1.875% of the PPV revenue, while being the main fight of the night, is crazy!!! That probably means less than 20% of the PPV revenue is going to the fighters.
@@sooperd00p You are defending Dana, like the typical coperate shill, you lot are shameless.
@@sooperd00p dana shills like u never cease to amase me. Do the math corporations will always try to shaft employees if they can. Their goal is to make as much profit as possible. Their goal is not to be good people.
Honest young man, this Mr. Ngannou. I wish him all the best.
Ngannou's English is not great, which can make it easy to underestimate how smart he is. He comes across as a very humble, and gentle giant, but he is clearly also a man who is not easily manipulated, and knows how to stand up for himself in a mature, calm, and calculated way. I have so much respect for him.
What videos are you watching ? ..... His English is very good.
His English is good, his,native language is French. Its hard to get a rid of the french accent in English especially when you started learning it only a few years ago. What languages do you speak ?
His English is excellent he speaks multiple languages. His accent is just heavy….that’s an insult even if you didn’t mean it like that
@@boristheb1ad3x67his native language is not French he’s from Cameroon 🇨🇲. He speaks Ngemba, he had to learn French and English
They have ruined the UFC with crap like this. Fighters getting paid 20k for a UFC fight is crazy and that would never slide in the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. Sport is dying because of greed.
The world is dying from greed, it’s everywhere lol
False. It’s the same in other sports. The minimum salary for NFL is $750k, and that’s for the entire year. After paying the highest bracket of taxes, agents, personal expenses, etc. those players are also scraping by. The UFC’s annual revenue is $1B/year while the NFL’s annual revenue is $10B/year. I’m not saying UFC fighters shouldn’t get paid (they should). But comparing them to other sports is a terrible argument.
@@reesingu964also NFL players perform sooo many times a year. But fighters, especially heavyweights, fight twice a year if that… Francis is just greedy.
Woah woah woah ! Dana needs another 1.4 million dollar samurai sword in his man cave. Let's chill. Dana can't keep playing 600,000 dollar black jack hands if people start talking outta pocket
@@reesingu964 percentage of revenue NFL players get 48%, percentage UFC fighters get 18%. Pretty clear comparison.
Francis’s biceps are literally the size of a normal humans head. Looking at them is crazy 😂😂😂😂
I can’t unsee it now lol!
😂😂😂you'd swear there's synthol in them
Yeah...I thought 'What are those enormous things hanging on his arm?' 'Oh, they're biceps!'
@@NM21375for real, can’t imagine how big they are when he flexes 😂
Good on you Francis. He knew his worth and fought for it. $1.25 ppv revenue on an $80 cost is insane... should be double that at $2.25 with a $0.25 if it hits lets say 750k buys, so he earns based on how well the fight is promoted and does at the ppv box office
are you insane? 2.25 out of 80. in boxing the fighters get 50-60% which would be at least 40!
@@jamescaleb9676boxing is a very very different structure.
@@jamescaleb9676 Good Point, but they’re actually paying the undercard as well when it’s a PPV fight, so they’ll not only be paying for their team and camp but they’ll also be paying for everyone else on the card. The headline A side owns the show and pays out. They will still be left with a good percentage, more than 2% anyway.
@@DavidBenidorm undercard fighters in every sport get peanuts. the main event fighters get at least 50% of revenue. the level of abuse in mma is just unbelievable.
People forget they have to pay to rent the Arena for 1 night hire people to build the ring pay the camera man the production team pay a doctor to come ,pay announcers security, people that that stamp ur tickets, pay refs pay judges pay all the fighters in the prelims and undercard and your opponent , pay ring card girls ,pay city taxes pay the commission pay construction workers to put up the lights that go above the ring there’s a lot of money that’s being spent to make the event and the ufc needs to make a profit to
He went to a boxing match and just made 10 millions!! Bravo Francis!!
"After 99 dinners with Francis I still have no idea why he will not sing the new contract" Dana
"He doesn't want to fight"-Dana (about anyone who won't sign one of his bullshit contracts)
@yusuf8938 and then all of dana's little minion fans believe him lol dana could say the sky the green and they would believe him.
Never really thought about it until Francis pointed it out. UFC has raised ppv prices so much during the years and the champs still get the same $1.25. $1.50, $2 for buys!
Don’t be a boring draw
@@jonathanhall9726Lmao if those guys are “boring” maybe the ufc as a whole is really the boring company lmao imagine calling knock out artists like Francis a boring draw sounds like a consumer problem lol
@@jonathanhall9726 Boring draws get fewer buys, what does that have to do with $ per buy…?
@@jonathanhall972620% didtrubted minimum for the main card fighters or all fights for supercards
$2 per pay preview is crazy I can't believe that that's an insult
Aged like fine wine
The finest of wines lol
Pretty cool to hear how level headed Francis is. Hope nothing but the best for him
I have never seen such capable, fierce, giant of a man be so soft and inviting. His smile and his speech cadence are disarming you forget he could literally rip off your arms and beat you to death if he wanted to and there is nothing you could do to stop him.
You could shit your pants......Predators often lose interest when their pray defecates....
"rip off your arms and beat you to death" LOL that's why humans made spears, then bows & arrows then guns.... don't forget that reality bites HARD on the foolish....
Alot of us Africans are gentle giants.
He isn't the sharpest tool in the shed
Ask him out for a date?
UFC pays fighters 15% of there revenue. It is the worst payout by a mile compared to other sports organizations. NBA gives its players 55% of there revenue
basicaly fighters do all the work or the hard work, and get scraps for it, its like you work for a company, you make majority of the work that provides that big sum of $$$ but in the end all you get is scraps for it. thats exactly why not only fighters but workers/employees need to demand more.
Their *
Prove it
How the nba still exists is shocking
Worst thing is that Dana wastes all that money gambling and it’s stupid
This guy is so calm and so nice
Glad this interview happened and Francis got a chance to clear his name. Much respect, champ. I'll watch you fight wherever you go!
No one is believing that Joe Rogan doesn’t know this was happening at the UFC. This guy has never really advocated for fighters in any meaningful way. I am glad Ngannou had the balls no one has in the UFC to leave and prove that he can make all the money outside the UFC.
Ehh, most in the UFC can't get a fight with Tyson Fury. Also, many are offered more money in the UFC than Ngannou. This is a perfect storm of a fighter not being worth much to the UFC but also being able to command top dollars from another MMA organization and the potential for a big money boxing match. What other UFC fighters fit that description?
I agree, its crazy to me that Joe doesn't say it publicly. Dana is a good friend to Joe so it makes sense but it also shows he doesn't give AF about fighters.
@@MrOutPerform he wouldn’t be having Francis on discussing contract negotiations if that was the case, he’d have told him before the podcast started not to mention contract negotiations plus he’s been advocating for more weight classes so fighters can stop killing themselves trying to make weight. He obviously knows how the contracts work but he’s asking questions and playing dumb for the audience that doesn’t know.
Yea, I wonder why he had Francis on? 😅😂
This is one way of giving fighters the chance to tell their story. That is helping.
We missed all the true super fights. GSP/Silva, Silva/Jones, Silva/RJJ, and now Jones/Francis.
Jones/Francis was not really a super fight. Silva/Jones is a ridiculous mismatch of epic proportions. Cormier Silva went exactly as expected. As for RJJ, only complete morons like watching these MMA fighters get their asses kicked by boxers.
Thanks Dana
how would Silva vs RJJ be a superfight? When Silva was dominating, Roy was way past it
If you listen to the whole interview, the PFL is willing to allow Francis to fight Jon Jones in the UFC while he's still in the PFL. It's up to Dana to allow that to happen.
Couture vs Fedor
At one stage I was a huge McGrgeor fan now I've come full circle and watch every video of Ngannou on YT.
Ngannou has great business patience and analytical point of view, I'd love to listen to him speak about business more
Funny reading the comments here when few months ago fans were saying how stupid, greedy, and scared he was. Social media really shines a light on mob mentality and ignorance. I held no opinion on the matter either way because I am not privy to any negotiations, relationships with the parties involved. yet, fickle fans held strong opinions as if they were in the know. Glad Francis is able to share his side.
Dang you really know your stuff
@@TuckerWittenberg 🤔
Well spoken -- Sanity is a VIRTUE!!
Most people are fkd. Physically, emotionally and spirituality. Fkd.
Ufc are fickles and tat is a rule
Francis low key best business man.
Yes his brain is underrated
really. after he loses with fury, his value will drop by 90%
@@rb9888overstatement and he will have still made his bank anyways, and still has a future fighting in MMA, so he's won either way
@@rb9888yet that loss will make him more than an entire career in the ufc, yeah Francis definitely isn’t smart you should be his manager
@@Clustehh we will see. he reminds me of ike. let's hope he's not going to end like him
Strong and smart. Hell of a guy right here. Rare
Dana is poisonous at this point. He was a necessary evil at the start but now I don’t think he can do what someone else can do. They need to change the he face now. I love what Dana has done but I’ve gone from liking him to finding him insufferable
Regime change needed I agree , he’s not fit for the role anymore.
Keep Dana as the face of the company but Endeavour(who own the UFC) need to make some changes.
Respect to Ngannou. I work in the corporate world and I see people getting taken of advantage of so many times, just based on what people perceive them to be. Ngannou is slept on in regards to his business awareness. They hear his accent and perceive him to be unintelligent because of a "language barrier", but if you just listen to him for a couple of minutes and pay attention, it's VERY CLEAR that he his much more than a fighter. His business sense is very impressive as well.
Especially considering this dude was literally in the mine till he was like 20 with no formal education
He literally couldn't sell a ppv to save his life. Given his look, fighting style, and accomplishments he probably had the worst branding in all of UFC. The guy got a great opportunity and took a risk which appears to be paying off, but lets not act like this guy is Conor McGregor. Sell some ppvs first.
hes a knockout machine, what more do you want?@@jesses5463
@@justso-gr3jj Conor couldn't break his contract with the UFC. The UFC aka Zuffa co-promoted his boxing match. That was the biggest payday the UFC ever had. They would love to shovel another pile of crap like that to the braindead masses.
@@jesses5463honestly I don’t get why, Francis was a fucking specimen and his run was shocking…people getting folded left right and centre from non technical punches, almost no one could do shit to him despite his lack of experience. Then the rematch with stipe, ngannou could have gone on to be the best heavyweight in history with an insane story to match his skills/genetics. This version of Francis doesn’t get people interested? I suppose if he got purple hair and started talking non-stop shit he would get more of the blinded casual fan base involved. Anyone who was an actual fan of the sport never missed an ngannou fight because your witnessing greatness and a potential death 😂
All the people saying that was a good pay and Francis shouldn't have left, please look up the breakdown of a fighter's paycheck. Recently, some UFC fighter that fought in Australia recently broke down his 50k$ paycheck. After taxes to Australia, additional income tax, airline tickets, coaching and gym fees, he was left with 10-15k$. Hospital fees or whatever not included. They are basically fighting for free and idk why you guys would stick up for Dana White of all people? Fighters deserve more pay.
Any injuries that require medical attention is paid for by the UFC as long as it happened during a fight.
My man worked on his English and His Pronunciations Is Very Good, I Can Understand Him. Salute The Brother. God Bless Him.👊🏿
Tremendous respect for ngannou. He bet on himself and won and now has leverage in boxing and mma to negotiate with the top prize fighters. I’m surprised that more of the top ufc fighters haven’t taken a similar route. Their careers fighting at a championship level are very short. They are talent and the ufc continues to exploit them paying pennies on the dollar.
Francis was smart. He bet on himself and his well being. If IFC isn’t gonna give him a proper bag, cross the street. Really wanted that Jones vs Ngannou though. I seriously believe Ngannou would’ve given Jones a run for his money.
Likely Jones takes him down fight over.
Especially after a couple of key bumps
There still fighting idiot 😂
@@forrestedmountains7081if we learned anything from his second stipe fight, his take down defense improved, and all he had to do was touch stipe to compromise him. I could see Jones shooting, Francis defending, and after a few punches from Francis, Jones would be rethinking his strategy.
Francis is alot stronger than Gane which was very clear in their fight so despite Jones being a better wrestler it´s not going to be as easy as Gane was for him and it´s just as likely that Francis hits Jones with power he´s never felt before and puts him out cold.. thats kind of the X factor you get with Francis that he can literally turn anybodys lights off... thats why everybody wants to see it.@@forrestedmountains7081
Probably the only guy who went against Dana White and won.
LOL. Dude hasn’t stepped foot in a ring or cage, and hasn’t received a single dollar for a fight yet. Just wait dude, this comment will age hilariously
@0waggoner He's got the Tyson fury fight, if he makes 20 million off of that, he makes way more than a 8 fight deal in the ufc.
@@Joshpower57No way he’ll make that, the fight against Fury doesn’t have a hype that thought it would…
@@Joshpower57that is a distorted argument because he's only making that much due to the size of Tyson Fury's name (which is also why the promotions agreed to it). Francis is a shit marketer, if he invests that purse into a solid marketing team, with his abilities he could command a lot more.
@@SBayne762 Hes also making that much due to the size of his name and the fact that he was HW champ. People know francis.
I’m so happy for Francis
Ngannou radiating health, prosperity and happiness now
I can see his point. They raised prices by a third but only payout by 20% $1.67 per buy shouldn’t be too much to ask for.
That % is actually pretty solid IF it's worldwide PPV. If it's only American they definitely could bump it etc
Pardon my ignorance, may i ask you guys why? I mean if the PPV is 80$, isn't 1.67$ absurdly low? Are the costs so high?
@@LorenzoGalassi1it is absurdly low when you consider most of the people buying his PPVs are because of the attention Francis's name brings edit: *_please forgive my ignorance I thought people gave af about the guy 😞_*
@@RockyBoyBalboalol when was Francis a ppv draw?
@@RockyBoyBalboa But Francis did not pull PPV numbers
Is it me or did his english improve CRAZY since his first JRE episode?
Francis improves very fast with his fighting also everytime, he learns quick
He's been training with Mike so practicing in real-time usually helps people learn a language faster.
@@thedave1428 Almost read this like he was learning crisp english from Mike, lol
@@DJZ64X Mike & Teddy said the same about the boxing techniques they took time to show him as well!!
Not just you. Massive difference.
I’m behind Francis.
We couldn't see you. 🤣
win or lose, i'm just glad it worked out for him, since at one stage it looked very uncertain for him. Very glad.
rogan most likely already knew all of this. hes great at feigning ignorance, thats his job
Why would he be involved in dealmaking with the fighters? Like seriously how does it relate to his commentating job and how would the UFC benefit from him being looped in
@@dahui58 sorry, im not claiming he has some insider information (which he probably does as a UFC commentator but thays brsides the point) but rather hes smart enough and heard enough fighters talk about the pay issue and figured out for himself what ngannou was saying. He orob didnt know the exact value ofc but he knew ngannou wouldve been cheaped out fkr him to leVe
@@kevinyunseokim8194 fair enough, tbf this sort of negotiation occurs in most contracts/jobs etc. Anyone probably would know UFC would try and pay as low as they can get away with. But yeah Joe probably has more of an idea on it than the average.... joe
Bro, don't talk reckless without any proof. That's so wrong on your part.
@@DogWater2011 swallow a load
Francis appears to be a man of his word. I love how he said it was not so much just the amount (on the ppv) ) it was more about the proportion UFC goes from 60-80 & only gives.25 to the fighter. Then obviously after he decides to leave they say you can have everything & back pay too..Obviously it shows you’ve been very unfair. Very disrespectful to a major attraction for the UFC. Greed is ridiculous-these guys are breaking limbs- AND its not like the UFC is struggling!
It seems like it all paid of in the end. Francis Ngannou P4P #1 human on the world
Francis seems like a cool chill dude! 👍
My heart sank when Francis described his meeting with that guy Hunter. They are playing the fighters for fools. Hunter is worth over 50 million. Taking advantage of young naive guys that just want to fight. They don't know any better and when they are grow and learn-it will be too late for them-and the UFC will have already used them for $$. Best wishes to Frances. Can't wait to buy his PPV!
Taking advantage of workers is literally what every business does in America. Nobody starts a business to make workers happy as opposed to making profit. The fact people are outraged at this like it isn’t the norm is nuts
I think the reason the ufc can justify the only very small uptick in ppv points given to fighters, while having increased the cost of ppv so much, is because their business model has shifted away from ppv and towards television deals. We don’t often see them, but in many markets, tv stations pay big bucks to exclusively air ufc events. However, I also think that the ufc made this shift in part to reduce the bargaining power of the fighters. In the past, a big fighter could easily calculate their value to the company. Now a lot of that value is hidden in these TV contracts.
UFC doesnt control PPV price anymore, thats ESPNs fault
idiotic. its a single event and the only question is how to split the money between entertainers and management. only ufc is so broken that the athletes get peanuts. and the mma fans are just beyond stupid.
@@Darkgale69that’s what he said you idiot
Noone talks about how dumb the sponsorships looked. I still remember Burger King on Anderson Silva's shorts.
Well done Francis for battling your corner. He will make more from one fight in “dead” boxing than all of his other fights combined.
Dana is a company man. He does what is in the best interest of the company. How can you blame Ngannou for doing the same.
Not a company man. He is the company but being a billionaire is not enough. Rogan said that when Dana gambles, he bets millions. That comes at the expense of the fighters, Dana rips them off.
I'm really hoping the lawsuit going against the UFC succeeds and fighters get their due. They always short change them and give them unfavorable deals, but the mother company has enough money to buy WWE. Absolutely ridiculous stuff!
Start your own promotion and pay the fighters how you think they should be paid........ I just love how people wanna tell other people how to run their business. Francis doesn't like the contract, so he's not fighting.... A contract is between two people......
@@learningcurve3212 Exactly. Also, there's other promotions they can go to if they feel the UFC isn't paying them enough.
@@learningcurve3212 This,I think ngannou should run a fighting promotion because he have the 'business mindset',why he go bitching about dana,equal pay and shit,ufc pathway to these fighters to become popular,tv time,appear in movies,sponsorship elsewhere.
Go blow Dana White behind 7/11. You couldn't run a lemonade stand.@@learningcurve3212
@learningcurve3212 That logic is beyond terrible. You could justify people working for nothing with that. The UFC just needs to allow independent sponsors which they should already. Its already been mentioned that stopping fighters from having sponsors is a shady area of law since the fighters are considered as independent contractors.
The fighters need to take a stand against the ufc
Damn!!! guy is good fighter and quiet intelligent too...good life
Respect to rogan as well for giving ngannou the podium to express his frustration with the ufc even though its joes bread and butter.
Biceps crazy
The ufc will always want the biggest slice of the pie
Thanks Joe for letting him expose them
His biceps are so unreal dude
was thinkin the same thing
are they bigger than usual? never saw them pop like that, training changes? or does he never wear short sleeves? its a tight shirt but still
@@marcinczapski8547 its probably the short sleeves now, but his biceps always looked big anyway.
They really did him dirty, it shouldn't be surprising UFC is just horrible to their fighters. 16% revenue share when other sports are at 49 and 50 bellator even over 50%
UFC Pays more than any other company. Fighters die to go tO UFC
@@fred89pj I don't know what the hell you're talking about NBA NFL make way more money on a percentage than any UFC fighters do. You got fighters going in there risking their lives and they still have to get a side job that's fukd. You have fighters with GoFundMe because they can't afford to train and go to work at the same. 16% revenue split is a fucking joke! Bellator is 50% revenue split
@@fred89pj they were giving Francis 600,000 for his fights, he just made 10 million for one fight.
that is correct, I was referring to MMA companies, no other MMA company pays more on average that UFC. Good for Francis@@velder22
Man alot of us were misinformed n totally wrong for calling out francis wen he left the ufc a hw champion. He has more than proved he had a plan after ufc with a vision n dream n kept faith wen everyone was in doubt saying he fumbled the bag etc. I admit i thought so too but i do apologise for it, i wish n hope nothing but the best for ngannou
All the best for the future. Nganou 👍
If boxing is dead then it should be no problem for Dana to allow Francis to box
Now he's going to make probably triple the money in one boxing match then his entire UFC career 😮 good for him he deserves it UFC is trash for how they treat and pay there fighters the people who make them all of their money 💰 smh
That's awesome for Francis, the UFC has arguably elevated his profile to the point where he now able to command that money
even more
man he sounds so gentle 😂
Fighters should definitely be allowed to have sponsors man
Damn, I LOVE Francis. HE is a gentle giant with the power to rip your limbs off, lol. He is so softly spoken and truly intelligent and well rounded. What a guy. Wish he would make a comeback on his standards and pay to UFC and reign supreme with a fight against John Jones!!!!!! LETS GO :D
Who's John?
Current Heavy Weight UFC Champ, He loves to Eye Poke and break the law and live a weird lifestyle of abuse.@@lamosos
His bicep is about to knock me out just looking at it, Jesus!!
This man fights sharks in and out of the ring. What a legend.
PERFECT Cuts
The only thing that bothered me about Francis leaving is there is literally no interesting heavyweight MMA fights for him outside of the UFC. And I watch all the organizations. Most of them or washed up or just garbage. Who is there? The one big Russian guy in ONEFC. That’s legitimately the only interesting match up.
What about Braden Schaub
🤣@@Rob-J-BJJ
Malykhin, the Sweet One? Boy does that guy pack a punch. Three division champ. Too bad he'd getting a bit old, but still, such an impressive streak.
Imagine being a maincard and you get 1.50/80
That's like 1.5 million plus whatever his show and win money is plus 50k if he gets a KO.
youre missing the point, they can take of all of that and just give him a fair share of the PPV. youre getting baited in these "packaged deals" that look attractive, but youre really getting fked in the azz @@fundamentalbear8347
@@fundamentalbear8347nah! He only got paid 500k , he had 300k ppv in his last fight, do the math
It should be at least 5
He's a lot smarter than people give him credit for...
Gotta be bout your business and the sooner you learn the better👌🏾
Nothing but respect for this amazing guy!!!
The UFC crams advertisements all over the PPVs and the octagon but fighters can’t have a patch or two to make extra. What’s crazy is that the fighters can make way more money and the UFC didn’t even have to pay.
Its ridiculous that the ufc doesnt even allow the fighters to have at least on sponsor
Surely the PFL are pretty pissed at all this
Man they edited the hell out of Francis during this clip!
Probably copyright reasons
Copyright issue. This is mma bouts channel not the original source.
Uncle Daner = the Don King of MMA
The most dangerous heavyweight MMA fighter is a soft spoken gentleman
Man carry’s himself like a champion should 👏