Nazi hunter Efraim Zuroff: - I’ve never seen them express regret | SVT/TV 2/Skavlan
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Nazi hunter Dr. Efraim Zuroff talks about his 40 years of hunting down Nazi war criminals in this interview with Scandinavian talk show Skavlan.
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I wish this was longer ! Very interesting and important interview. This person should be brought back to talk more in-depth about their work.
Soviet concentration camp in Sosva, Sverdlovsk region, Russia (North Ural Forced Labor Camp, Sevurallag). No less than 150,000 people were shot. My grandfather was shot there. But Efraim Zuroff is not interested in pursuing the criminals who committed atrocities there. He never even called them criminals. Double standards.
@@Aleksei.Jakuba He is a Nazi investigator. His job is to catch Nazis that are still alive today and who were not punished for their crimes. He is not investigating war crimes,just catching Nazi officers.
@@cheezarose So the Soviet concentration camps were worse than the Nazi ones. And the crimes there were not committed military, but exactly the same as in the Nazi. But he does not touch Soviet criminals against humanity. And Jews were also killed in Soviet camps. It's just that Germany is defeated, and the descendants of Soviet criminals against humanity are now in power in Russia and prosper (for example, Putin). I repeat: he has double morality and double standards.
@@Aleksei.Jakuba Indeed but his family was in the Nazi camps so he focuses on that. One person can not do everything,if this issue is very important to you,you should spread awareness for it and do something about it if you'd like. Of course,it's a difficult thing to do but that man has nothing to do with it and it is not is obligation to seek justice for it. It's like saying people who distribute free vaccine in Africa should be also responsible for stopping terrorist from abducting young girls. Those are two different things and there are associations for both.
@@cheezarose Agree with you, but... My great-grandfather was killed in a Soviet concentration camp. Not just WAS, but killed. Zuroff not agree with the equating of National Socialism and Communism: "If the Holocaust loses its unique position in human history, it will be a tragedy." If Zuroff don't care about the death of my great-grandfather and millions like him in Soviet camps, then I don't care about the death of his relatives in the Nazi camps. (I think it's fair.) By the way, Zuroff participates in conferences with Russian Nazis Dmitry Klensky, Dmitry Linter, Maxim Reva. They use his for their own purposes. You won't see Ribbentrop's grandson in the German Bundestag, and Molotov's grandson, Vyacheslav Nikonov, sits in the Russian Duma. But Ribbentrop and Molotov are two bloody executioners, besides, Molotov is much bloodier.
Skavlan - exception journalism will always prevail - jolly good show!
Thank you so much for that, Tracey. We appreciate it!
Highly recommend a future interview with. PM Jacinda Ardern.
G THIS BOLSHIVIC COMMUNIST & HIS FAKE 6 MILLION CLAIMS
Crimes against Humanity are still be committed in most Countries today!
Yes they are. Remember Bosnia and Serbia and Sobodan Milosevic who took every male person and shot them and put them in mass graves, just like the Nazis. And that's recent. Anybody know what happened to that Milosevic?
@Lasse Givoni Thank you. So he took the cowards way out and hanged himself? Or did some hero finish the evil man.
@Lasse Givoni Oh I've just Googled him it was a heart attack.
Central Banks creating money out of thin air is a crime against humanity, and causes millions of deaths.
And it sucks nobody does anything
I lost my brother and the killer had killed 2 people previously. I agree that some people are born evil. He has never shown any regret but walks freely today. Great interview.💪
Dr. Efraim Zuroff, you are doing a fantasic job on behalf of 'billions' of relatives/friends/lovers/family members who lost someone to the EVIL that was Nazi germany. We owe justice to the memory of all those poor victims and their families. No forgiveness can ever be deserved for such evil crimes against humanity, in my opinion, not on this earth at least. Great interview.
I love the way Skavlan asks questions that provoke discussion, and really listens to the people he's interviewing. Thank you 🇦🇺
Thanks for that, Layne!
This is your most important interview ever. My great grandfather, a Serb, was in Mauthasen for 3 years.
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Very delicate subject. Education is the key, so people don't forget. Thank you for remembering!
Another incredible interview, thank you🇨🇦☮️
Thanks so much (here as well)!
Agree 100%. Age does not diminish the horror they committed. Imagine no regret, it has to be dealt with.
I mean, at that old age, the prison Will have No effect on them.
This is a fantastic interview and so important today. Choked me up. Thank you for sharing.
Thank You Dr. Zuroff and Thank You Skavlan for having this hero on your show.
Thank you for watching and commenting, Justina!
I don't understand how this kind of evil can exist :( great interview and guest
It's happening again. Trump, Orban, Putin, Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, Polish President, guy in Philipines, Bolsonaro all these snowflake 'strongmen' who are so afraid of everyone else that they have to try and crush democracy.
@Thunder Bird Seriously, what is the point of your rudeness and name calling? The person you are attacking (Lasse) was obviously answering a question and then addressing people who might read their response generally. It was not meant as an attack. Why be so on the ready to attack Lasse? Step away from the computer if you can't handle human interaction.
Good people do nothing still.
Peer pressure to look strong can happen with adults too. And self preservation tends to be more important than others' welfare. Human nature failings. This is not excusing the behavior of Germans or any others who look away from injustices.
unfortunatley it exsists because the rest of us have let it. I think things are coming to a head again. I wish USA and Nato countries would just blow Putin away and het that army so hard. USA never does that. They beat around the bush. War is War, civilians will die. But if we would just jump on these bad guys one time it would make others stop and think twice about war. Instead, even with WW1 in recent memory, WW@ came into play. Why, because we didn't show germany they couldn't get away with it.
This is a very important interview.
The headline is very, very sad! That`s the problem also today! To many of them still in Europe! 😢 Nazi hunter Efraim Zuroff: - I’ve never see them express regret
that's awful
Only in europa? Look at Russia?!
@@roosterbooster6238 Say Captain, say Wot! Russia is in Europe.
@@OnceAndFutureKing Russia is transcontinental and also includes Asia.
@J 2 the British royal family changed their name in 1917. Ironically most royal families in Europe are related which means most European wars up until WW2 were “domestic”. The German kaisers mum was British for example.
Wow. Very insightful.
I am in tears - this man's work is priceless and vital.
WWII Ended in 1945 for most of the planet...these guys are still fighting it 75 years on, they have never relented in tracking down the butchers, the murderers and the torturers. Incredible levels of dedication and commitment from these folks. As a non-Jew, I have nothing but absolute respect for the way they have relentlessly pursued the Nazi's who committed these atrocities against them and others. As an aside, this is a fantastic channel. Very high quality content from the small selection I have seen so far.
Further reading: "Hitler's Willing Executioners," Daniel Goldhagen
Did they have pity for, or spare, their elderly victims? If no, then prosecute despite their advanced age.
No pity, no humanity.
The Nazis murdered people BECAUSE they were elderly (and Jewish). If they couldn't work, they died.
@@IExpectedBSJustNotThisMuchBS Pity for innocent people, yes. Pity for war criminals, no.
I agree. They might look like innocent old grandparents now but, there was a time when they were young and strong. They looked at truly innocent grandparents and thought “extermination.”
Wow, any remaining Nazis must be very old this long after the war... would never have thought that there would be 100s left re hunting for them. My mother, who was 12 when the war started for the UK, would have been 92 this spring if she were alive today to give some context to that. I agree with holding them accountable. I also visited the camps and feel scarred from the visit. I took pictures so as to never forget and I've never looked at the pictures. I can't forget; the images feel burned into my consciousness. EVERYONE SHOULD VISIT. When visiting the ovens - the last stop on the tour -, you could tell that nearly every visitor felt traumatised by the experience, and at one point, someone began wailing in way I've never heard following the death of a loved one. It was a wail for the ages of human inhumanity. I have no doubt that their cries expressed what we were all feeling.
In my opinion the longer these monsters enjoyed freedom the more important it is to apprehend them.
I didn't know that soldiers were not executed for not following orders to kill. That really puts things into perspective. I have been told by Jewish refugees from WW2 that they were seen by German soldiers where they were hidden and the soldiers gave the all clear, allowing them to escape. There were definitely soldiers who didn't want to kill anyone.
I think that is a very important piece of information in this equation.
Yes, there are always good people -- absolutely -- but these were exceptions. *If people -- **_most_** -- had stood up, this and other atrocities might not have occurred.* When crimes against humanity and other injustice happen, so many turn away out of cowardice, selfishness, and/or willful ignorance -- and very often denial, in the moment, of the injustice that is occurring; in this arena, *we all have a duty, as decent human beings, to educate ourselves* about the oppression, systemic discrimination and horrors that people have committed against other human beings -- and to take some kind of *_action_.* That is the way forward for us, our kids and our planet. ☮️💜🌍= Take care of yourselves -- and your neighbour. Be well, All.
Watch Europa the last battle
Karsten Warholm who appears in the show won men's 400m hurdles in the Olympics on Aug 3rd. and is the first person to do it in less than 46 seconds
It is unfortunate that most if not all of the most guilty war criminals are long gone and what we are left with is the "also rans" who are liable to prosecution by virtue of their longevity over their contemporaries rather than the degree of their guilt. So Mengele lived out his life in South America but a 98 year old office clerk at Auschwitz might still be liable to prosecution.
@dsss b I wasn't suggesting these people should not still be pursued. Germany's lack of cooperation tempered with a lack of will from the allies after the war led to many of the worst offenders "slipping away".
dsss b Because they celebrate their victimhood.
The title has several typos. Sort it out, Skavlan!
Sorry about that and thanks so much for commenting! The title has been corrected.
@@SkavlanTV No problem! Thanks for great content.
Such a great interview! Thanks. Vengefulness never works though. And NO ONE HAS EVER expressed regret sounds a bit inaccurate.
I've just finished his book: "Journey with the Enemy" written together with the Lithuanian authoress Ruta Vanagaite. I'm astonished by how the countries occupied by the Nazis all jumped to carry out their orders. The victims of Ponar were almost entirely shot by Lithuanians. The Nazis put a crate of bottles of vodka near the pits so that the killers could take a swig just before shooting the next row of Jews, all lined up beside the pits.
this happned to my people. never forget
Hans Landa: _sweating_
Being has a tendency to 'return' to clusters ='the nature of solidarity' -a desire for empathy -(Wave)-(yin) and also, Being has a tendency to 'exist' as individuals ='the nature of self-expension' -a desire for breed-(Particle)-(Yang) Likewise, humans have two elements. We must realize that we all have both left and right elements =Solidarity and Self reliance No one has only one element. so 'Sum' derived from 'two poles' , (thesis, antithesis, synthesis) To develop intellect and ethics by harmonizing the two, It is good to realize it and balance it properly But A few people polarized the crowd(political partisanship) without balancing themselves. And They stole only the sum, only the synthesis from the triangle composition. Now We all have to get out of this deceptive situation. This is not the time for us to hate each other. We have to track down those who have been manipulating us.
what about all the lebensborn in norway & sweden
Fascinating and crucial info for history.
It's important to note that many German soldiers were willing to go to the horrors of the Eastern Front rather than participate in the camps. It is also important to know that there are those who expressed remorse, especially those who were so tormented that they committed suicide, despite their not being in any danger of prosecution.
Do... you have evidence of such? A link or two to videos of these people expressing that remorse publicly?
Im currious, when the 20th century passes from living memory, who gets chased and blamed then?
In the context of the holocaust? Are you saying once all the Nazis have died out? Then who will be chased and blamed for these atrocities? I do not understand your question.
Their children, and the children of their children. Those psychopaths never stop until WE STOP THEM DEFINITELY !!
So, soldiers who denied orders to kill innocents weren't executed. I'll take his word for it. But did they know that this wasn't a possibility? In other cases denying orders was an executable offense. I'm just a bit perplexed by him portraying the ordered murder of civilians as an act of free will by those soldiers.
Committing crimes like that, like shooting naked, innocent civilians lined up in front of a pit, is ALWAYS an act of free will, even if they WERE executed for refusal. We must never pretend otherwise.
Wow, now I know what evil looks like and here they are glorifying him. Makes me feel sick in the stomache.
what do you mean
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The US General said: film this all, because no-one's gonna believe it. And they didn't see the worst of it in the east.
Unfortunately something similar or worst is going to happen to those who won’t join a one same world bank and religion and government! Massive people dead everywhere and again the pope will not do anything to help. The Great Tribulation will be very horrible especially for True Christians and Jews
I presume that the reason they never expressed regret was because they believed in what they were doing?
Or that because it was normalised / sanctioned by their society so in their perspective they weren’t committing a crime.. one of the dangers of collectivist indoctrination which we all vulnerable to given the right conditioning.
@@roosterbooster6238 In other words, they believed in the rigtheousness of their cause
@@richardduplessis1090 kind of but not exact. You have the dedicated Nationalist who would do something out of political or racial conviction and then the doing my job types who go with the flow with no conviction or to avoid rocking the boat.
@@roosterbooster6238 So pretty much like any other time in hisroy, including now. People just rolling with the momentum of impersonal forces.
@@richardduplessis1090 Jordan Peterson explains it pretty well when he points out how most people today would behave exactly the same under the same circumstances and be handing Anne frank in for the reward rather than hiding her..
He would have a lot of work in Ukraine.
is that young man with the blonde hair a german?
Needs more cowbell
In context with what this guy is saying, and the difficulties in bringing such criminals to justice, let's also look at the Israeli soldiers and police who've been designated as War Criminals by the international community, which Israel refuses to surrender for trial. Please google 'Israeli War Criminals'.
Richard Du Plessis Yes, for their crimes against the Palestinians.
Thunder Bird No it’s not.
@Thunder Bird There are warrants outstanding. Are you trying to argue that someone ISN'T a war criminal until they're convicted? That'd be interesting.
@Thunder Bird I see by your comments that you've a fixed view of the world that no doubt fits into a particular political world view. Take care because it's likely that you'd involve yourself in establishing an authoritarian regime. I also see by the crying laughing emoji that you you think you are clever and that you have the emotional maturity of a 10 year old. Please grow up before deciding to converse with adults.
JoAnn here- Dear Sir, I was an Argentine exchange student in 1968-9. We lived in a penthouse with excursions to the estancia in the Argentine pampas. I saw many Germans, comfortably wealthy guiding military, business, science and societal norms. It became a society closer to one of White supremacy....US vs THEM.
by the time you spend all that time going through the process of collecting evidence, bringing the guy to trial, and lock him up, these people will be dead rotting in hell anyway. it’s a great thing to punish them but at such an old age i don’t see the point of wasting that time.
I’m sure the people who suffered at the hands of these monsters would disagree. I understand your point but, our view on this is warped by the passage of time. We aren’t as angry about it because it has little to do with what we view as our daily lives. Still for those who have died or suffered because of these people, to generations and families wiped out, seeing these men get their just deserts is worth it. I knew a Holocaust survivor and he was still angry underneath it all. He lost absolutely everything. He became an orphan and had to leave Europe completely. This regime completely tore apart the life he could have had and the life he could have known. Even if our Nazi hunter hets to these men after they pass, at least their true colors will be revealed.
to be fair ive never seen british or americans ‘express regret’ either. not sure why they would.
Numerous American military leaders such as Dwight D. Eisenhower, Douglas MacArthur, Nimitz and many others have expressed regret or at least shamefulness in President Truman’s decision to drop two atomic bombs that annihilated two Japanese cities without being legitimate military targets killing countless civilians including women and children. Some of the quotes from their autobiographies are "I was never taught at West Point to prosecute war like this", "we were gonna win the war regardless of the A-bomb droppings anyway.....this was so unnecessary", "if we lost the war we would have been rightly prosecuted for being war criminals" and many more honest but remorseful comments these leaders made on record.
The British and Americans weren't running death camps during WW2.
@@GazB85 lol - they had their own POW camps. but the germans weren't firebombing civilians. it was only after churchill made it clear he wasn't following any rules of war that the germans relented
@@antigen4 Heard all of the Nazi apologist bullshit before... *Yawn* and before you say anything, Churchill was a cunt too.
@@antigen4 That's because they didn't have to. They pretty much conquered Western Europe easily with their army without the need of air bombing with their air force. And when they bombed Britain from the air they were bombing civilians....my grandmother was killed in Scotland during those bombings in 1941....of course it was pretty much downhill not long after that for the Germans they did not have much opportunities to hammer anyone from either land, air or sea legally or illegally as far as the laws of war were concerned.
What mr. Zuroff thinks about Ukrainian situation right now, the dirty nazi are now became national heroes, new politics juts converted our history and everything that against Russia and Russians is good for them, even open nazi are good and became national heroes. I feel it’s very similar to Croatia’ situation, and even worse.
"No person was ever executed for refusing to kill the Jews. In other words people did have a choice". Sad to hear bearing in mind, that saving a Jew in Poland was punished with capital punishment. Nontheless the were many who helped. So such statement like in the interview is unfair generalisation. Just check this out: kzhead.info/sun/i9prmN6bqF9rh30/bejne.html By the way, who's that lady there in the studio?
I Like that the host let's the guest talk without the interruptions. However, letting the things be told without fact checking washes the journalistic credibility. Many things can be said about Franjo Tuđman, first president of Croatia, but he was most certainly NOT Holocaust denier. He fought in WW2 as partisan and against ustaše regieme, was one of the youngest generals of Tito's army. He was in Jasenovac post war and his commerades that were caught by ustaše were sent to Jasenovac during the war. As historian, he challenged the absurde claims that over 700 000 people were slaughtered in Jasenovac. He was not the only one and Yugoslavia most likely put this number when seeking damages what the war. He was not the only one to challenge thsi claim, spread mostly by Serbian Orthodox church. On 22 April 1998, Tuđman received the credentials of the first Israeli ambassador to Croatia, Natan Meron. In his speech Tuđman said, among other things: During the Second World War, within the Quisling regime in Croatia, Holocaust crimes were also committed against members of the Jewish people. The Croatian public then, during WWII, and today, including the Croatian government and me personally, have condemned the crimes that the Ustaše committed not only against Jews but also against democratic Croats and even against members of other nations in the Independent State of Croatia.
I wish I could ask Dr. Zuroff about Armenian genocide which is known as the first genocide of 20th century. Why Israel does not recognize it?
Very good question
Everyone recognises it read some history books
Why does Israel need to recognize it before another country? Like the UK or France or or India or New Zealand? Is that a double standard? I think the answer is pretty straightforward: international diplomacy means few stick their neck out, ever.
Gyökér.
Please do some justice to Palestinian people as well.
Josip Frank is the founder of the fascist party i Croatia. And he is a jew 😂. Ivo krizmir, vlado springer and kvaternik all work in jasenovac and they are all Jews 😁
They probably just said they were Jews
Most likely mixed
Pointless
I wonder when will this guy start to denounce the killing of Palestines by the Sionist regime.
kgb rat
I think that is a big claim to make that no person was ever executed for refusing to kill Jews. I don't believe he can truly back up such a claim. History has shown that soldiers refusing to obey orders especially in Nazi Germany were likely to either go to prison or get executed. I don't believe he is correct in his claim. How could he verify it?
Propaganda
why