HBO Build-Up: Marvin Hagler vs Ray Leonard__________________________________________________________________________________tags: hbo build up marvin hagler sugar ray leonard preview countdown roy jones the greatest fighter in the world boxing documentary junior richie woodhall bernard hopkins wladimir vitali klitschko klitchko knockout highlight compilation best video mike tyson muhammad ali manny pacquiao floyd mayweather nonito donaire narvaez sugar ray robinson ray leonard marvin hagler roberto duran amir khan david haye joe calzaghe
Gotta love the 80s, everything was better back then...
Costantino Milvio mmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnaaaaaAAAAAHHHHhhh
@@ilitardo160 Are you all right?
@Mkm Bullshit 90s were not better. 90s music sucks, inequality was worsening and entertaiment was getting lamer as it ended the decade. Youre obviously a Millennial that didnt experience the 80s. And for your information im not a Boomer.
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Definitely not the TV quality 😂
This is so special to true boxing fans wonderful to watch
I remember watching this special as a kid.We talking 5th grade the winter of 87 rite here. Nobody gave Leonard a chance but He proved them wrong after this fight and also proved why He was fighter of the decade
Two boxing legends...and an awesome fight.
Great watching this as it was back in 1987. I was a big Hagler fan but always liked Leonard as well.
RIP Marvelous Marvin Hagler!!
RIP Marvelous Marvin Hagler
Who doesn't remember this like it was yesterday?What history showed was that it wasn't two fighters "over the hill."A great night in my life looking back and one that I definitely won't forget.Ray Leonard arguably IMO was the best pound for pound in boxing history. NO ONE could have not fought as long as he did and step in the ring with(at the time)the most feared puncher in boxing history.I had a feeling that Leonard would beat him and after round two I kept telling my friends that I was right.
I didn't know about this buildup back around the time of the actual fight,i wasn't into boxing then like i am now but i still wanted to see this fight. Great to find out that there was such an in-depth look at such a high profile fight. Highlight of this buildup is towards the end where there was a very interesting panel discussion. Having two of my favorite boxing commentators side by side was great,Alex walluw and Gil Clancy. Both of their insights on the fight were great. Gil Clancy was just as good as a commentator as he was a trainer. Very interesting to see him here as he was to become a fill-in commentator for HBO years later.
The greatest comeback in the history of Boxing even though I thought Marvin won the fight
Sugar Ray Leonard is the man! Such an AMAZING fighter!
Awesome upload. I feel bad for Hearns. He really helped make both Hagler and Leonard great and they just did not stop showing him getting KOed .
Thanks for the upload, brilliant documentary. History, legendary.
Love It I'm Still Watching This Great Fight In 2020 👊🎯👊
sugar ray leonard proved everyone wrong
ibhof2 is the man.. Thanks so much for posting i love old school HBO build ups...
Hagler was amazing
@Hecabill are u kidding? Leanord fought a smart fight, he made hagler chase him and it worked. Plus they had some great exchanges, especially wen leanord was against the ropes it was a battle. He outsmarted hagler and fought the way he always did, respect to both guys but in reality nobody gave leanord the slightest chnce of winning and he proved every1 wrong.
Boy, SRL retires after Olympics, after Duran 1, AFTER Kevin HOWARD, After Hagler, after Durann III, after Terry Norris, after Camacho. Leonard has retired more times than he has belts. SRL is the Sinatra of boxers.
Thank You for uploading this!! 🙏🏼👏
Saw the live broadcast at the time , I thought Leonard just about pipped it so decision was right in the end !
I always thought Marvin Hagler over trained for the fight and his muscles seems really tight which makes you slow late in the fight. His shoulders were really tight and muscular which makes the arms heavy. Marvin should have fought Leonard in a rematch. I think Marvin should have gone for the knockout right away.
Thanks for this, I`d never seen this before, a great part of boxing history.
Agreed, Camacho had tons of heart - never knocked out I believe in like 80 fights or so. Incredible accomplish by itself.
Great video by the way, this is the stuff I enjoy watching
much love for you ray- top 10 boxing goats of all time
Brilliant 👏 thanks
This was a true Superfight. In 1982 they were ranked as the top 2 fighters in boxing and both avoided any losses. Actually I felt at the time both were undefeated. Hagler had 2 draws and 2 losses in which were wrong. He rematched all 4 and knocked them out. Leonard avenged his loss to Duran and made him quit. Then they mention age. Hagler was 32 and Leonard 30. Both were once in a generation and I felt they were still barely in their primes.
Hagler definitely lost the first Willie Monroe fight. He never disputed that decision however he did the others, Leonard, Watts. Leonard was close, I thought it was a draw, the Watts fight although I haven't seen it is widely regarded as a robbery decision. Of the 2 draws I've watched the Antuofermo fight when Hagler challenged, he was way short changed, he won at least 10 rounds of the 15 rounds in that fight.
I've never liked merchant lampley or lederman,HBO is seriously biased and unfair towards fighters they don't like for moronic reasons
Thanks! :)
I overall people adore Leonard but I adore marvlin he is hilarious and I feel bad that he was under appreciated
afsana parvez both are legends
yeah their unique as well in personality wise
Leonard hearns Duran and Benitez all won titles at different weights However Hagler stayed in his middleweight comfort zone. He never fought saad Muhammad at light heavyweight. Hagler should have beat Leonard inside seven rounds after all middleweight is his home ground his comfort zone. Leonard’s hand speed and superior boxing brain beat haglers brute force slugging. Brain beat brawn. Both great fighters but that’s why Leonard in modern times is the best pound for pound boxer and Hagler is not.
Great stuff
The thing that is fascinating about Sugar is that he knew how to get inside of your head and intimidate without menace or aggressive talk. Duran knew that he won the first fight but realized Sugar took his best fighting his fight. So the second Duran already had doubt. I believe Hagler had in his head that Sugar took punches from Duran and Hearns and of course battered Hearns. Those first few rounds Leonard stuck to his game plan. Hagler seemed confused and although he says he was robbed I also believe that when he tagged Sugar hard and got caught with flurries he lost focus..
Boxing historians... that breed got extinct when Bert Sugar died
thanks
I believe Sugar Ray Leonard was about 40 years old when he fought Camacho, he hadn't fought for 6 years, Rays real prime ended in 1984, he fought Camacho in 1997. It's really hard to take your comments seriously. Ray's last great fight was againt Hagler in 1987, and they actualy were both past their primes even then. You aren't making any sence son.
Camacho was over the hill too so it evens out. add to the fact Hector was really a blown up 130 pounder and his accomplishment is that much more remarkable! Everyone thought Leonard was going pursue Hector and that Hector would run and instead out pops a fighting mad Hector Camacho. it was Hector's last hurrah, his last great performance. The way he hanlded leonard that nite is what boxing is about, reminiscent of the Loy fight in 82.
I love both these guys
I've watched the fight with the sound off and being completely unbiased have Hagler winning by 1 to 2 rounds......
Yep. I've always said Hagler by 1 round or 1 point, just barely.
I've watched the fight with the sound off and with no color (i.e. only on black & white) and have winning by 1 to 2 rounds the referee…
If u have the Feb 1986 issue of World Boxing, page 22, you'll see that Hagler postponed the Mugabi bout becuz of broken nose in sparring and diagnosed as having ruptured disc, sings that Hagler's body was in terrible shape
But Hagler was also over the hill. He had 66 hard fights behinde him. I like Hagler, the guy would had to make the hard way, the worker. But a prime Ray Leonard... Man that was something.
I think hagler had never fought a boxer hit and run he could never set himself to throw Ray had a game plan and stuck to it true legends rip hagler
Hagler - Leonard was a great fight, that's the meaning. It's doesn't really matter who got the decision. It was to close to call.
That means that the champion keeps the title. Hagler did enough to win. Conversely if Leonard was champ he did enough to win.
I was actually thinking of light-heavy when I made that comment. He was happy to take on smaller guys so why not be brave and move up? Michael Spinks called him out a few times and he refused to step up. I know he was a little short but if he was as desperate for recognition as he claimed he should have taken the chance.
I dont know Camacho that well either. I was just pointing out that wasnt Hector in the ring so it evens out. btw, the Hagler fight has no meaning
(From below) add in Hearns & Leonard fought in jr/light middleweight before going to middleweight but Hagler at middleweight didn't have a super middleweight division to move into, that division didn't really take off until the end of the 1980's.... so he'd have had to jump 2 divisions in one go & as you move up from light fly to heavy the disparity in size, weight, height & reach increases greatly per division as you go up..
Michael Katz was the only one right in this piece
I agree, Katz was on point, noted Hagler's reflexes being slowed and his inactivity too, talked about Sugar Ray wanting this fight and seeing the openings that Mugabi had exposed and saying Ray's style was better to beat Marvin using movement as opposed to other fighters trying to come at Hagler. Katz was often a good analyst of boxing for many years.
I never chose learnord to win against hagler...It was a known fact that Ray went up in weight just to stay away from Pryor. I truly believe Aaron Pryor, would've knocked Learnord out.
Oh god....that music.
well at least you're not one of those people who swoons at the mere mention of Leonard's name. Good boy
The volume doesn't work
Sugar's a stud. But being from Boston I gotta go with Hagler. But I do like Ray more except for when the two met in the ring.
Seems when looking the still pictures one can see Ray's skin looks rather interesting for a 30yr old man. He was much more built up while training. Sometimes as high as 170lb...interesting. He also weighed 150lb after the fight....When you put all that together....
He was actually closer to 31 and Hagler's real age was closer to 35. The point I was trying to make was if you look at Ray's face it looks like he has a case of adult acne...think Barry Bonds or Mark McGwire...or for the generation before....Ben Johnson and numerous other athletes at the time. P.E.D .....
does anyone know the song that goes on 26: 48 in those segments?
one of them is rocky training montage
thanks, where it has the facts part is the song im trying to get
right side audio only wft?
What's his real age? I know there were always questions about it but I have never heard for definite what it is/was?
wise words at the start truly remarkable
Mike Katz, Gil Clancey and Wallau were all prophetic in their own way. Wallau-very close decision after hard fight. Clancey-Someday Marvin's gonna walk up the steps and not have it anymore. Katz-Deep down Ray knows how to beat Marvin.
He had recognition from hardcore fans it was the casuals he's talking about, at that time fighting Leonard was like fighting Floyd now, you'd make a lot, lot more money & at the end of the day these guys are fighting for a living, why fight a guy for peanuts. Leonard was built up and promoted right from the beginning of his career as shown by Duran's cut in their 1st bout, in that bout Duran was the more accomplished guy to hardcore fans yet Leonard got the bulk of the cash cos casuals knew him.
What's the theme at the 43 minute mark? Always loved that one. kzhead.info/sun/mLingqx9eYl_YHA/bejne.html
SRL admits in his book that Hagler had told him he was almost shot after beating Mugabi
Neil Hodge Yeah , Ray was perhaps the greatest welterweight ever ( along with Sugar Ray Robinson) but he would never have challenged a peak Hagler at middleweight. Leonard knew very well that he was taking the opportunity to catch a Marvin Hagler whose best as a fighter was behind him .
+MaxTV ray played with haggler waaaaaay outclassed him. no competition for leonard.
Gage Plake Hagler was old when he fought Ray,even so,Ray didnt beat him,it was a draw at best for Ray.Leonard would NEVER have fought Marvin in 83,84,85,or 86,Hagler would've knocked him out.Ray showed he can stand and fight but against Marvin he ran.You cant win a fight by running.
+MaxTV Marvin was at the end of a much longer and tougher career than Ray. Marvin also was getting old and he hadn't been particularly active over the previous few years ; his fight with Mugabi had been just over one year prior to theLeonard fight. Ray realised that Marvin had slipped from his peak when he watched the Hagler v Mugabi fight and this is the only reason that he chose to challenge Marvin. Both of these guys remain two of my all-time favourites butHagler trumps Leonard as a MW whilst Leonard remains one of the two top welterweights to have ever lived IMO.
+Gage Plake You said it ..."Ray PLAYED with Hagler" .If he had stood and FOUGHT with Haglerthe outcome would probably have been different .
This guy said Hagler was over the hill?? Hagler was holding 3 belts....
Wladimir Klitschko had 3 belts too when he faced Tyson Fury...
Shame about the sound quality 😫🥸
Old School 24/7 ! haha
Hagler was only 5'9" compared to Leonard's 5'10", way to small for super middleweight and anyway it wasn't a real recognised weight class til the late 80's so 5'9" Hagler would have had to become a light heavyweight. Are you young or new to boxing...
TheSmithDorian I have to disagree with you on that Marvin Hagler lets face it he was ducked for a long time also you to understand SRL had a machine backing him he was a media darling fighting on a cable television wheres as Marvin Hagler wasn't on TV that much
He didnt tune up because he knew Vegas was going help him win.
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whats the name of the song at 13:50?? anyone?
josef karlberg Steve Winwood... "Back in the high life again"
You are merely repeating the same things you said before. I get it- he was too small to face Spinks etc. No one was calling for a Hagler-Spinks fight, you are right but no one was calling for Spinks-Holmes either. The cruiser-weight division (like supermiddle) was in it's infancy but that didn't stop Michael from challenging a Holmes who would outweigh him by 22lbs on the night. Other fighters move up to CHALLENGE themselves, of course a number of them lost in the process (Bob Foster for...
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Ray is big puncher to if he can knock out hearns
how can you duck a fighter in a totally different weightclass........its like hagler ducking spinks for years yes.....same weight difference and both champions a separate boxing division leonard moved up to fight hagler..did hagler move up....nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Leonard is a prima donna...Duran, Hearn, and Hagler are the real fighters !!
Sugar Ray Leonard has great speech.
I have only one comment to make! Yes, Leonard was one of the Great Fighters but so was Hagler and Halger WON that Fight!
There is no right or wrong here. All I did was opine that he should have moved up if he was that desperate for recognition. You obviously feel he shouldn't have and again, that's your opinion. I never once claimed there was a clamour for a fight between him and Spinks. There also wasn't a clamour for Spinks to take on Holmes either. Most people thought Mike was foolish to even try....anyways...I think we've done this to death. Just respect others' opinion even when you disagree.
I dont need to do any research i was an amateur then & followed the pro's as it was on tv a lot more then although it seems to be on the up in Europe at the moment. I remember staying up to watch Duran Leonard 1 and trust me there was no calls for Hagler Spinks, the mismatch in size would have been funny, hagler ended his career at 160lbs, Spinks was a heavy before then, its not a pissin contest i just know i'm right on this one but i'm big enough to admit being wrong but im not here.
fix fight with robinson and hagler like what happen to pac and bradley
meet me somewhere and lets see shall we
No former Champ comes Back..Only George Foreman, at age 45...Ray, came back and lost to Comacho.
I have no problem with him, to be honest, I don't know him that well. I was just pointing out that that fight has no meaning, that wasn't Ray Leonard in that ring.
Leonard didnt fight his best oppsition till his last 2 opponsnts. the hit N hold tactics by Camacho was also reminiscent of the Loy fight, where illegal tactics ABOUNDED! what could Leonard do? Nothing! Hector would grab Ray behind the head on one side, then bring it downward onto Hector's onrushing LEFT uppercut inside. fuckin' BEAUTIFUL. and the ref never saw it! Leonard was a good fighter but didnt have enough fights so he didnt know how to handle guys like Norris N Camacho
Haggler is in my top 5 world's best middleweights, learnard is not because of what he did to haggler, haggler fought anyone, learnard ducked haggler until he see Mugabe look good boxing an older haggler, haggler won this fight and had learnard stood and fought he'd of got tanned out
Exactly why would a welterweight going up to fight a middleweight after a 5 year layoff stand and fight? That would be what we call "stupid". You know, like fighting orthodox when your a southpaw for the first 3 rounds and basically giving them away. This was a boxing clinic, not a toughman competition.And ya can't be a top 5 middleweight of all time if you can't knockout an old welterweight, who never fought middleweight before and only had 1 fight in the previous 5 years. Please.
He's been old forever as well.
Two sick egos's
Your suggesting he jumps 2 divisions & 15lbs lol to fight a guy who was 5" taller outweighed him by loads & who turned heavyweight just over halfway thru Haglers title reign lol add in Spinks had Muhammed Qawi & Mustafa Muhammed to deal with & at the time the fight wasn't even talked about because its so ridiculous lol maybe in 30 years you'll be saying why didn't Floyd fight Vlad Klitschko ! Gotta go this is one of the silliest make up match ups ive heard in a while.
Other than the foul language, I agree with every point you made. ;-)
....instance). Why not Marvin? What I hate about the hype that surrounds Hagler is how he's managed to make everyone think he was always the victim. Do you know for instance the only reason there never was a rematch between Hagler and Leonard was because Marvin (yes him) refused it? Of course you don't and that's because he has everyone believing Ray refused to face him again.
the mook is back................mook you've been defeated leave me alone lol
Can't believe Ray Leonard ducked this man for so many years.
I always though Ali Berbick was more like Hagler leonard instead of Camacho leonard Ray just didnt have enough experience dealing with crafty cagey guys like Hector (a multiple title champion). In short, Ray was out of his league and it showed. He shouldve had more fights against vaulable oppsition like M. Nunn, instead of guys like Lalonde, Howard, Green, & Kalule becuz he didnt, he finally met up with disaster vs Norris, Hector.
Hater Leonard was way, way waaaaaaaaaay over the hill when he fought Camacho, he was past his prime for years and years and years. Your comment is bullshit. It's like saying Trevor Berbick exposed Ali.
He should have moved up in weight instead of hanging around middleweight trying to lure smaller men up to face him.
Dude, believe me when I tell you you shouldn't be trying to pull rank with me. I don't carry my knowledge in a transparent bag. He could have moved up instead of whingeing about other fighters from a COUPLE of divisions down not moving up to meet him. He didn't have to and I don't hold it against him but also guys like Hearns and Leonard didn't have to move up to face him either. I still remember how upset he was when the first scheduled fight with Hearns fell through. Hagler was a whiner.
The rematch was offered in 1990...15 million dollars was on the table for Marvin. Leonard retired after his fight with Hagler....in May 87. He returned 6 weeks after Hagler officially retired from boxing to challenge Lalonde (LMAO). Marvin was nearly 36 by then and was almost 38 when Leonard asked about a rematch. Let's stop using Hagler's official age...everyone in boxing knew his real age....Manny Steward...Angelo Dundee...even Leonard himself knew Hagler's real age. They first met in 1973...
just by haglers mannerisms you can tell he is so bitter towards leonard.....leonard was under his skin for many a year...thats what wins the battle
lets here it for the mook
@Hecabill and if he was scared he wouldn't even had fought him at all, u guys jus sour
Ray won 100% this boxing match, which everyone keep calling it a fight!