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A weird man looks at the deranged psychopaths of MLP history and why they deserved to become historical monuments.
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Bronies: We're tired of redemptions. Can't we just have villains be evil? Hasbro: Ok, we won't redeem our final villains. We'll kill them instead. Bronies: *shocked Pikachu face*
Lol. But it seems to have gone better overall than another show who chose to redeem its villains.....
I've heard this argument countless times before. The thing is I want well thought out reformations. Not lazy ass pull reformations.
Yeah
@@ZoruaMasterthere’s no such thing
@@pn2294 Nightmare moon definitely had one
Sombra got killed twice yet I don't see anyone calling for him to be redeemed.
Man did pony slavery of course they wouldn't redeem him
You'd be surprised.
He was redeemed in the comics, then the show retconned it.
He was in the comics but he was a different character from the one in the show
@@Place-Holderjust because he is handsome
Tirek- Looks like satan Chrysalis- Acts like satan Cozy Glow- Probably IS satan
Tirek: Looks like a demon Chrysalis: Acts like a demon Cozy Glow: IS a demon
Honestly, I'm not even fully convinced that Cozy Glow is actually a child. Sometimes, I think she's just an adult who looks like a child and uses that to manipulate people.
Orphan
That reminds me of baby doll from batman TAS
Or maybe she's some kind of pony homonculus.
so basically Esther
@@ireki4017 I like Esther and at least she got back at someone who deserves it like that idiot husband John and the bully kid who thankfully got spared with a broken ankle and the people in her other movie too.
They should consider themselves lucky that Equestria (supposedly) doesn't practice capital punishment.
I don't know....... depends on how aware they are as that statue. Eons unable to move or speak trapped with your own thoughts and quite possibly seeing and hearing everything that goes on around you? Then again total sensory deprivation for a thousand years or more might be worse than knowing what is around you. Either way, after a time death would seem like a release. But given their crimes and rejection of all offers at redemption it may be well earned.
Id PREFER that actually
@@travissmith2848 yet i still see something wrong with cozy No other pony was as evil as she was its against the very foundation of harmony Which is why we have to find why she is that way And perhaps her cutiemark may help
@@seantaggart7382 Off hand, I'd say she discovered at an early age she had the talent to manipulate events and ponies to get what she wants. Combine that with the possibility of having parents that would be like Neighsay and Spoiled Rich (Milk) to start her on a self important and power is all that really maters kind of path and things are not looking good. Biological tendency toward sociopathy and a bullying incident where a unicorn lorded magic over her and..... Well, you get a master manipulator that sees nothing wrong with taking whatever she wants hurting anyone even if it just for fun and an insatiable lust for power.
@@travissmith2848i mean discord could hear what was going on (atleast by celeistla) so maybe
Cozy Glow always makes me wonder what went wrong for her to end up this way. A pony who grew up in an era predominantly ruled by love and friendship turning out the way she did honestly makes me wish we got some sort of backstory. She’s an odd one out among the villains in nearly every way
Indeed
She's the answer to when people ask about ponies who get cutie marks in Actively Malicious Deeds. When she briefly gets her evil alicorn superform, her cutie mark only gets more big and castle-ey, making it clear what her shit's all about.
yeah, i always felt like we were robbed for getting any kind of backstory or explanation for her, a kid doesn't just turn evil like that for no reason but the only reason we ever really get is just a vague "friendship stupid >:(" like i guess a kid could just be born bad and nothing made her that way, but i kinda doubt it, most bad kids are just bullies like diamond tiara pre redemption, not racist dictators lmao. sometimes i wonder if she's even really a kid or if she just looks like that for whatever reason
Wasn't she corrupted by Tirek? They wrote letters to each other, maybe she thought she could help him but Tirek twisted her good intentions to its worst
@@dmitrykhvostik5975 I like this idea on its face, but the show goes out of its way to show that she knows what she’s doing when trying to drain the magic from Equestria and manipulate the school into being her friends. It’s possible that he planted the idea in her mind since he told her about the artifacts and the draining ritual (we still don’t know how they became pen pals in the first place), it seems like she developed the idea and what she would do once the magic was gone going forward.
pretty sure the main reason poeple wanted a redeemed chrysalis was to just see her redeemed changing form
A good solution would’ve been an episode where she shows up having pretended to reform and trying to integrate back into the changeling society with the hopes of betraying them all and getting her vengeance and power back.
@@adrianen4644 but then it backfires when she actually starts to get reformed?
@arandomthingnintheabyss2062 nah mann,i wish i could animate. THIS WAS GOOOOD ENOUUGH
After she called the Magic of Friendship a "disease", it seems like Friendship just took the Legion of Doom personally. Discord is just doing its favor.
alternatively there's me who's like the biggest fan of Chrysalis x Flufflepuff.
I actually think the finale is in character for discord. He does orchestrate conflict to teach lessons, and he had every reason to believe he could handle it if things went too far.
Agreed
Honestly, Discord by the finale was basically just Q.
Yeah but i do wonder why he went back on his word about not turning ponies to stone?
@@seantaggart7382 simple, they were exceptional circumstances, those three needed to be dealt with
@@seantaggart7382 to be fair, he probably realized those three could just pull their bs again by whatever means necessary. If Tirek was able to contact someone else to do his shit for him, WHILE being completely malnourished, then what else can these three do even if they were in Tartarus
Goes to show, you can't redeem someone who doesn't want to change.
Its like the oxygen masks on the airplanes! You have to pur yours on before you intervene with others strangling their neighbors with the tubing. Or something like that
My real question for Cozy Glow is who are her parent(s), legal guardian(s), or caretaker(s)? She had to be enrolled by someone else, unless it was done by Tirek, which would make her a victim, similar to Harley Quinn with the Joker. But if she wasn't enrolled by Tirek, I can only imagine the awkward silence Twilight and the others have when someone is there to pick Cozy Glow up and take her home, lol
Even then that wouldn’t make her a victim. She was already evil before she met Tirek and supposedly already killed someone
@@Aelvir114 cozy: killed someone? ...i don't remember that And normally i would! ...hmm
Honestly, she most likely doesn't have any parental figures in her life. I mean would it not make sense for the show to atleast show her parental figure?
@@seantaggart7382 It's an exaggeration.
@@multidebbie1 Seeing the Season 8 premiere, the students had to be enrolled by someone much older, even if it meant their kind's leader.
Chrysalis also threatened to tear Spike's wings off in the finale 😨
That part was pretty crazy.
Reminds me of when Tirek in G1 threatened to decapitate Spike
Gotta love how even when turning to stone Chrysalis is STILL trying to throw hands while the other two are screaming
Chrysalis knew she had basically two seconds of freedom left and was going to go down fighting, what a boss.
In the FIENDship is Magic comics, Chrysalis revealed to Twilight that she and her changelings were born freaks from a pond of mutated goop. Basically she was born a baddie and went out a baddie too
This is why Chrysalis is my favourite villain of all time.
cozy glow is fuckin ruthless, crazy ass villian. she was also racist too bruh towards student 6
Cozy Glow deserves a one way trip to the glue factory
she is so me
And also she has cons
Na
but people say she desever to be redeem cause she was just a child and twilight did not give her any love at all
bruh, when you add all there crimes up like this, man it hits different, mf`s were stopped for good reasons
Indeed But i still wonder about cozy Not in anywhere in equestria has there been a sign of a truly evil pony that isn't either misunderstood or corrupted Like luna was corrupted Flim and flam while Yeah evil they are just criminals and while they exist in equestria usually its Not to the level cozy went to So what i gotta say is What went wrong? Why did cozy go against the magic of friendship and harmony? ...its why i think she must have a VERY broke home It would explain why she didn't have parents to sign the school papers and why not even they showed up when she went to Tartarus! So I believe she must have been abused so much she thought the only way to get over it was to make sure nobody could use magic to harm I don't excuse what she did But once you wonder why she did it? You start thinking about what could have happened ...cozy is definitely VERY evil But maybe if we get a motive? We will find who she is inside Is she pure evil? Or Deeply broken?
@@seantaggart7382 Maybe she is just a psychopath? Her Cutie Mark is literaly a chess piece, her talent and path in life is literal manipulation
Has anyone ever done a video where they charged the MLP villains for their crimes?
@@amandamakin1542 people have
Admittedly I don’t think Chrysalis meant to ruin their trip in the mean 6 clones. That was just the result of mistaken identity because the clones went off and did their own things. She did want to use them the steal the elements of Harmony to destroy the Mane 6 and then Starlight. Messing the Mane team was more of the clones going AWOL from Cheese legs plan than Chrysalis herself.
And then Mean Twi proved to be a much more competent villain
@@Aelvir114 Yeah😄She owns her creator at every turn. It's great🤣
@@p-__ What?🤨
@@user-sz6te4wt6p I mean that's what you get when you make n evil clone of one of the smartest characters in the whole show.
@@user-sz6te4wt6p just to let you know? *they aint a bot* They are just...intriguing
Cozy Glow’s Cutie Mark is a chess piece, In Chess you have to outwit your opponent and be smarter than them to take control of the game to win Perfect for the character
I think it's also a rook specifically, which apparently is a very tricky piece to utilize but very powerful if you know how.
I agree that they don’t deserve redemption, but I still hate that they were turned to stone by Discord, Celestia, and Luna. How many times has imprisonment allowed these villains to come back one thousand years later? Every single one. They need a more permanent solution. Also, isn’t one of Discord’s first lines “I don’t turn ponies to stone” so I hate that he not only suggested the idea to Celestia and Luna, but helped them do it.
Indeed
It does pose a future threat. But if their minds still work they are fully aware of their own thoughts and either fully aware of what goes on directly around them and unable to do anything or spend a thousand years or more in total sensory deprivation. After just the first few months death would be seen as a grace.
@@travissmith2848 Eh not for Tirak, that guy's as immortal as Discord so it'd be basically no time for him. Cozy's probably the one to go actually crazy. Chrys... I think is also basically immortal so insanity from sensory deprivation won't get to her either.
Well they couldn't really kill them cuz it was a kids show at the end of the day but I agree, maybe just throw them into a random dimension?
@@travissmith2848I don't think that they are awere, Disford was because he is Discord, the other characters are not as powerfull as he is and don't have his powers.
They were awful… But I still like the idea of instead of friendship, they would have formed like a found family type dynamic. Cozy Glow was basically attached to the hip (one-sided) to Tirek. Made her feel bigger, I guess? Their trio song “Better Way to Be Bad” is still one of the best in the show. And their episode is a solid 9/10.
Indeed Because friendship isn't the only form of love
Evil people can form attachements and even friendships. Just because someone is evil it doesn't mean they are pure evil.
LITERALLY i have a whole ass headcannon that includes that imma expand on
I feel like Cozy should have been the final villain. She’s like the corrupted version of the entire show’s message!
Honestly, im all for it. Cozy Glow getting stoned is a bit overkill, but she made it pretty obvious that she doesn't want to turn a new leaf so yeah..
ok but shes also like a literal child
@@YariAbigailX3 fuck them kids
@@YariAbigailX3 yeah like she doesnt even have a fully developed brain yet😭
@@YariAbigailX3 she's also a genocidal maniac
@@YariAbigailX3 And? She still committed atrocities. Something had to be done about her. Can't just keep locking her up just for her to escape again and again. It's the same with Batman and Joker. The latter is a full-blown psychopathic murderer who's way beyond saving and the former always locks him up in Arkham Asylum only for the Joker to escape over and over and over again, and yet, Batman refuses to let himself and anyone else kill him due to his moral code. My point is that it becomes a cycle. Cozy Glow, Tirek, and Chrysalis attempt to take over or destroy Equestria, Twilight and the others stop them, and they just break out/come back and do it all over again. A cycle. It has to stop at some point.
what i found really ironic about the legion of doom was that even in the end, when they "finally" won, and everyone is basically fucked because of the snow creatures, they still were selfish and arguing with eachother. "oh! the moment I save them from this snowy hell I will get praised!" they told eachother. they forgot the most important part of teamwork, that theres no i in teamwork.. heh. sonic heroes.
To be fair to Tirek, he was worried about the Wendigos and suggested they deal with them NOW. It's just that the rest didn't listen
@@leritykay8911 Tirek seemed to be the only one who realized the threat that the Windigos presented.
@@leritykay8911Maybe wanted to directly act on it, but Cozy really only complained about the cold
4:36 I can’t be the only one who thought Chrysalis was Cozy in Season 8 since we saw Chrissy also in Season 8 but when we got to the season finale, I was proven SO WRONG and the worst part is we NEVER got Cozy Glow’s backstory or what let her up to this….
That's... actually a fair point. She's the only antagonist we don't get a backstory for. Either it was planned but got scrapped, or more likely she barely had more reason than we saw(ie she was just bad because it was fun and nothing else)
@@caiusdrakegaming8087 maybe but they could’ve at least brought it up or something I mean hell Sombra, who didn’t do much in Season 3 to his appearance in Season 5 getting a mind controlled army at war with Equestria to finally in Season 9 not only getting a first ever talking appearance but had another chance to take over Equestria he had a “somewhat” reason why he does what he does he wants to conquer and control because he’s a tyrant, but for Cozy little miss Darla Dimple pony herself she’s a literal child I think we’re obligated to know what let her up to her upbringing
@@caiusdrakegaming8087 yeah I wish she did
@@Justin-0427 personally, I think she was a regular pony who had gone through some form of trauma in her earlier fillyhood before she went to the school of friendship. Her motive would be to have control over ponies and after she went to school, she learnt the power of friendship and used that to her advantage
That would also explain her whole "friendship isnt just magic FRIENDSHIP IS POWER" thing
Still find it hilarious how Cozy Glow was thrown into Tartarus and literally got out in the next episode. My man Tirek spent 4 whole seasons there.
finally someone said it😭 im so sick of ppl in tiktok babying cozy glow and saying she should've gotten a second chance
Well im still gonna baby her As She's cute! Even if she WILL kill me I'd die happy
I know right! It’s annoying when people redeem everything antagonist because not every evil person can change. You’re basically telling kids everyone can be redeem when in reality that’s not true!! Plus headcanon: cozy glow is a drawf pony which would explain her small size but in reality she is a much older adult.
I never liked Cozy Glow that much tbh
I mean TikTok MLP fans are know for not being very smart lmao
@sherniajones6964 People want cozyglow to have a chance of redemption because she's a child. The others aren't. If anything, people are more curious on why she became that way and want to see her backstory.
3:19 what a nice cute and compassionate kid- *UNDERTALE MUSIC*
Perfect description of Cozy Glow
@@amandamakin1542 cozy: YEP! honestly i think best friends forever would work as well! Because i wanna be your best friend! *Forever!* Hehehe Dont worry im not gonna backstab you Jusr dont give a reason to!
Cozy is Flowey real XDD
This show is cooler and edgier than I remember.
The fight between Twilight and Tirek is basically Dragon Ball Z battle in a nutshell.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Fr.
your best nightmare really dose fit well with cosy glow
Cozy: i think me and flowey would get along ...though not forever I mean cmon You really think flowey would be ALL that evil? Like the reason be did all of that? It was because he was bored
Now fight sans
Honestly I wonder what reformed, non-parasitic Chrysalis would’ve looked like. Probably very pretty
I saw someone suggest that she tries to infiltrate the reformed changelings, realizes “this is pretty nice actually” and then gets redeemed essentially by accident when she does some sort of important selfless action. Or realizes that her people are genuinely happier- though that would require her character be changed from power hungry to wanting to feed her kingdom.
@@eldritchcupcakes3195 one half of me always wanted her to reform... But another half prefers her as this irredeemable monster that doesn't want to change! Maybe at one point she wanted to feed her kingdom but got carried away with her own greed,and then they turned against her.
Cozy Glow is absolutely cool. To suggest that she's just a kid who doesn't understand what she's doing is just insulting.
Great video! For me, the problem isn't that the trio gets turned to stone. The problem is that the show doesn't explain the difference between the trio and the reformed villains. Most reformations in the series are rushed and forced. Often with the heroes making things right with the villains when it should be the other way around. Trust and forgiveness needs to be earned, but the ponies usually hand it out of a silver platter. Heck, Daring Doubt said that everyone deserves kindness. The show says one minute "blindly forgive villains," and the next minute it says "turn them to stone without a second thought." Turning them to stone could have worked if they spent the finale learning that not everyone can be redeemed. But they don't do that because they don't have time. They only have two episodes which means they have to rush through everything. Which is the main reason the finale is painfully average.
That right here
Indeed Honestly if they did that? Then I'd be alright with them turned to stone Its just cozy however *why a pony? Why is she this way? No other pony was that evil...*
@@seantaggart7382The protagonists don't even question it, it doesn't seem to cross their minds, which I think is out of character for them.
@@yay29823 indeed You'd expect them to be like "why is a pony this way?" But no That's why im part of team reform cozy
I think this is what G5 was originally trying to do before it just kinda went off the rails and got completely derailed by corporate mandates and being skewed to the younger demo. G4 started by the previous (in universe) generations sweeping the shit they can't handle under the rug. Or in this case, into the statue garden, on the moon, etc. I bet these three were originally going to be related to the problem they had to lock away all magic for. It would be a great way to relate back to g4.
Thank you omg, I'm tired of people saying, "Cozy Glow was just a child!" Umm in the literal sense, yes, but she was not JUST a child lmfao
Unless she just happens to look very young, but is actually older.
Yea I think people who wrote story board planed Cozy glow to be an actuall adult, like the horror story where a family Adopts a young girl to just find out later on she is a 30 year old woman who wants to kill them
“ Cozy glow was just a child “ who knew what she was doing !! 💀
they were the best villians that had really funny interactions. this show kicks ass also im proud. I LOVE MLP!!
Those three interacting with each other is definitely entertaining. One of the best decisions from the show period.
I had know idea the brony fandom had their own Black Air Force youtuber.
Fr, screw that supporting my brother lmao
Honestly more shows nowadays need irredeemable villains. Not everyone can be redeemed. Not everyone wants or needs it. That's just the reality of the world. Some people are just downright evil and nothing can fix it. There are also people who you just can't help. You can't help people that don't want help or don't think they need help themselves. It's nice to think that everyone can be better, but the reality is not everyone can. Whether it be a mental health issue that affects their brain function, some past trauma causing them to be bad, or they're just a bad person that likes being bad.
2:48 "mozzarella mac n' cheese haircut" Thanks a lot, I can't unsee it now.
i wonder what or why cozy glow did the things she did. theres many possiblities like her possibly having the mind of an adult while having the body of a child or bad parenting. she was a great villian (all the villians are great in mlp lol) but i think she needed more backstory or idk, depth into her motivation
You know I’m really glad MLP decided against redeeming irredeemable villains. You know. *Unlike certain other shows that will excuse mass genocide but place capital punishment onto someone who was just a mean girl. The show can speak for itself it knows exactly who it is-*
Which one?
Miraculosos?
Steven Universo@@neko-bread
I will never understand why people honestly think Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy are all redeemable. They rejected the idea of redemption despite having multiple opportunities to change their wicked ways but they willingly chose to stay evil, even until the very end.. Them turning to stone at the end is the logical thing to do and I'm very glad that the finale didn't ended up reforming them because that wouldn't make any sense and it's a good way to teach people and especially kids that not everyone is willing to turn over a new leaf. W video and as always you're editing is on point MV.
Finally someone who doesn't want every villain to be redeemed or have a redemption arc it's just the truth of the real world there's people who are evil for the sake of being evil and other many reason which I'm lazy to do this is why I prefer villains more bec there more beautiful,have better and intense song,is not a goody too shoes and most importantly not getting a redemption arc for the villain I want the villain to stay as she is,she doesn't need to change her character or her personality overall
Yeah as soon as I saw that Cozy Glow's cutie mark was a chess piece in her debut episode I was like, "this girl sus" so I wasn't surprised when she revealed her ture nature I was waiting for that shoe to drop on episode one.
I just find it weird they deemed cozy Glow enough of a threat to turn her into stone and put her in Tartarus. A justice system has two purposes Reformation and imprisonment. Those are not the same things obviously tirek and Chrysalis are actual threats and simply need to be locked away. But at the end of the day, cozy glow is an 8-year-old Pegasus. She doesn't even have magic. I'm pretty sure a regular jail would have been just fine
When I first saw Cozy Glow I thought she was going to be the Changeling Queen trying to learn about friendship, just so she could destroy Twilight's whole plans. Only for her to actually CARE about the friends she made while there, aka the Cutie Mark Crusaders. Would have been a better thing for her tbh.
THANK YOU! I don't care if Cozy is a child, she still did what she did. She still stole all the magic in Equestria (how she wasn't powerless I'll never know), she still rejected friendship when it was offered, she still teamed up with Tirek and Chrysalis (In fact, she was the one who got them to team up if the song "Better Way to Be Bad" is any indication), she was still far too happy wanting to destroy everyone in Equestria, Cozy deserves no redemption. And Chrysalis misunderstood, yeah right. Again, rejected friendship when it was offered by Starlight. Thank you for finally calling this out
She was targeting one specific "kind" of magic: "Arcana" (unicorn & "potion" magic). As a pegasus, she can fly with Elemental (Air) magic. -> She wanted to "level the field" by lowering alicorns to the same level of pegasi & unicorns to the same level of earth ponies.
Sure sure But You know? *i still see glimmer of light in her* Its my special talent to find hope in others
But yeah We can just *SNAP* _someone screams_ ...oops
Remind me not to hire you for babysitting
When it eventually turns out she truly doesn't want to change, then go stop her, but as she is a kid, but give her a second chance to change. I do think she deserves a second chance. A child's brain is not fully developed, so I don't see why just asking "hey kid, wanna be friends?" Instead of actually trying to help her get out of the path of evil. Maybe not even give her a chance, just a little bit of pity, or address the fact that it's weird that a kid has gotten so evil, or question what happened to her family... anything really! Just give us at the very east a little bit of closure.
13:13 Thank you, yes! Trixie might be egotistical and dysfunctional, but that's no reason to ostracise a hard working performer, that was just barely eking out a living. Her arc is basically: homeless street performer flips someone off, has their guitar broken, lives harder without it, finds the person that broke it and punches them, gets parole and then slowly gets their life together. Yeah, she's not as hard up as that, but it's the best equivalent I can think of.
For what it’s worth Tirek actually gif a lot smarter compared to his debut. Idk if he *could* be redeemed but I don’t see Cozy much less Chrysalis ever try to redeem themselves
_"B-but Cozy Glow is a child 😢"_ Gozy Glow is a demon child who clearly has the mental capacity of an adult and had the intelligence to throw all of Equestria into danger.
Fun fact: The Author for a grimdark Pony fanfiction called Something Sweet to bite wrote in his own fanfic universe that Cozy Glow is indeed a demon, and not only that the ruler of Hell itself, overpowered only by Satan
This feels like one of those black air force analysis videos... *AND I'M ALL FOR IT!!!!*
@@p-__ Weirdest bot reply i've ever seen 👁👄👁
@@BlooMonkiMan they aren't a bot actually They are just that way Wanna know how? *I've seen them reply*
@@seantaggart7382 Oh god...
@@BlooMonkiMan yea
YOUR BACK AINT NO WAY?? also I love how you edit your videos
Yeah Same energy as Max0r I love it
People who seriously want these 3 redeemed have been watching too much Steven Universe
I am the biggest dickrider for that show and even I am a massive advocate for keeping these three characters irredeemable
Still would have made for a more believable redemption arc than the Diamonds
@@ZoruaMaster True
"yOu cAn MAkE A chANgE!"
Not to mention they blamed Twilight Spike and their friends for ruining their lives and their defeats when it's their own fault for being blind and stupid. They ruin their own lives by wasting their lives on pointless needless things they don't even need.
My problem with "the Legion of Doom" is that they don't really play into the theme of the show. The Frenemies episode just leaves them in this weird "teammates" state without exploring their relationships. They sometimes bicker, but that doesn't really lead to their downfall. I wish they were actual friends, but with bad goals
I'm so glad Tirek didn't get redeemed. He's my favourite villain and seeing him act all friendship is magicy would've actually killed me!
I agree.
me but with discord and starlight
the final fight edited to CENSORED by t+pazolite went unreasonably hard. you've earned yourself a sub
Cozy Glow being "just a child" isn't an excuse for her actions
im convinced cozy glow is not actually a child but is just an adult pony who never physically grew up lol. always hated her fr ALSO she was so clearly bad from the start just from a character design standpoint, her colors stand out so hard from every other color palette in the show, especially her eyes. i think her hair looks like that cause she mightve been meant to look like shirley temple, aka really sweet and innocent child (i never watched shirley temple stuff but i assume its like that) but im just pulling that outta nowhere idk if thats confirmed or anything
Na, They be forgiving EVERYBODY, but apparently Cozy crossed a line, Starlight enslaved a village and f**ks with time, tried to kill the princess of magic and gets a slap on a wrist. Discord, ruled equestria and betrays them a few times but also gets forgiven. Cozy steals magic once, tartarus. It wasn't just that, it was the fact that she wasn't sorry and apparently that's enough for them to send a child straight to tartarus
Some says that it was a low move turning Cozy Glow into a stone. Shocking. Even Luna, who was banished to the moon, is smiling. But let's compare Cozy Glow to Chloe Bourgeois (from MLB): both still young who doesn't know better and both abused of power. BUT, atleast Chloe could have had a redemption arc. She resisted corruption many times because she WANTED to be the hero, to be better. That's if it wasn't for the petty writer... Meanwhile, Cozy Glow? Intentionally made to be a bad one. Literally out there to kill everyone for her own greed to the point she went against Celestia and Luna. And the second she's out of her prison, she had a chance to turn the new leaf but never made effort and even pushed it away like the other villians.
What do u expect when someone who doesn't want to turn into a new leaf yk there's some people who u can't help or fix, theres people who are irredeemable to the point they won't accept any help,there's people who is bad bec they like being bad and thinking being bad is their comfort zone, cozyglow is an example of that twilight offered her friendship multiple times but cozyglow didn't want it and rejected twilight, I just hate people who say any villains can be redeemed when it's not true some people are evil for the sake of evil or fun,there are people who u can't stop it's just the truth of the real world no matter how much u convince that person that person is not ganna listen to u
@@AnneNicole-eo9vp Yeah. Like, bro. If there's reception for Cozy Glow they gotta wait era in MLP for it to happen. The Friendship Era isn't just for her. But I wouldn't trust her being any nearby me or others. Or being somewhere at all because who knows what shenanigans she's planning 💀
@@AnneNicole-eo9vp Yeah. Like, bro. If there's redemption for Cozy Glow they gotta wait era in MLP for it to happen. The Friendship Era isn't just for her. But I wouldn't trust her being any nearby me or others. Or being somewhere at all because who knows what shenanigans she's planning 💀
this is prolly the best mlp vid ive seen in a long while
Alright I'll bite. Even if they did "deserve" punishment, this particular punishment was overkill as hell. They were already defeated and weakened. Cozy Glow can't even do shit much less manipulate ponies since they are already on to her schemes. What was wrong with sending them back to Tartarus? Two of them only managed to break out of there with the help of Dickord. Furthermore he gets to be the one to decide their punishment after all the shit he stirred? Also Celestia and Luna come off as vengeful and vindictive for publicly executing three already weak and practically powerless villains which is not something supposed heroes should do. It wasn't the power of the Elements that turned them to stone like they did with Discord or obliterated them like it did with Sombra. The Elements seem to be the all deciding judge of what happens to villains. Like how they purified Sunset and Luna. I would propose that the Elements knew they were capable of being reformed or at the very least figured stone imprisonment isn't something the trio deserves. Not to mention the three of them being shown to have potential for redemption as shown at the end of Frenemies. They made an entire episode having these three as the protagonists and having learned a lesson in teamwork and friendship. They just needed a nudge in the right direction if someone were to show them the way. The writers can't just make me think they're irredeemable villains and then just give them a scene where they question their motives and think whether or not they're doing the right thing. Now on the subject of Cozy Glow, no one even bothered to try and reform her. Twilight pretty much just said "Sorry that I failed you. Guess there's nothing I can do kek." Did no one bother to try and look into this filly's past life or why she became the way she was? Was it abandonment issues? Some past trauma? Get this filly some therapy! Why did these hack writers not put more time and development into making us truly believe this filly can't be redeemed without giving her some backstory. If she actually was a spawn of satan then sure I'd believe she's an irredeemable monster. But nothing has ever been confirmed. I will finish off my post by saying hack writers of season 8 and 9 are hacks and stone imprisonment was unnecessary and overkill.
Indeed Cozy is different Its like she has no link to harmony
Yeah, I feel like stoning Cozyglow was way too far especially, unless her cutie mark was supposed to represent tyranny or smth
@@Bepa701 which it doesn't It just means she's great with strategies
@@seantaggart7382 Being a tyrant ≠ bad at strategies. Manipulation honestly fits regardless.
@@Bepa701 I prefer persuasion as the good connotation But oh well
Too this day Grogar should’ve been the final villain in the G4 series and not the legion of doom
I'm not even a fan of MLP I just want to see how insane this shit gets
your thoughts?
Golly, that edit of me was the most delightful thing I've witnessed in recent times! Regarding the video,i disagree with the majority of its contents: Tirek and Chrysalis could be reformed,while Cozy (ME~) has proven herself to be irredeemable. Tirek has a deeper motivation for being an antagonist: his father, King Vorak (correct me if i misspelled it) has disproven of him,and Tirek wants to revea that he is powerful by conquering Equestria. The fact that his brother transferred to the good side was only fuel on fire. Tirek would need convincing that his life does not have to revolve around satisfying his father. He even specifically mentioned in a scene that he believes being evil is futile until Chrysalis snapped him out of it. Chrysalis' refusal and subsequent resentment of friendship is rather understandable when you consider that her hive and students she cared and feed for her life has come to see her as an enemy. She is afraid of change and befalling the same fate her students did,which is reforming. She would be a tough nut,but with the right amount of convincing,and seeing that her former students are longing for a queen to lead them besides Thorax,she would eventually reform and resume her duty as Queen of the changelings,albeit not as a tyrant. Here comes the cute one and my favorite: it's me! Cozy Glow has zero redeeming qualities,would manipulate the mane six into believing she's reforming,even though she would shove a dynamite in thier backside,and has exhibited zero motivation for being evil: she is a psychopath. And even though i was depressed when she was petrified (she really is my favorite fictional character just in general, I'm not stating these because I'm half roleplaying as a narcissist) if she was left free then she would bring about the apocalypse again. And yes,there is that scene in Frenemies where she says that helping others feels good,but she immediately stops thinking about it and continues being evil anyway,while the other two would be redeemable in my opinion. And i am very saddened that she would trick everyone into believing she would reform, which would make it impossible to reform her. I feel rather bad because i deemed my favorite fictional character irredeemable.... The same thing could be applied to the Storm King and King Sombra,even though they weren't present in the video. They're also irredeemable. On an unrelated note, you should cut down on your usage of swear words.
Yet doesn't it seem strange she's the ONLY pony that is like her? Like The other reformed villians had their moments But had any one of them tried to ERASE magic? Not that i know of
@@seantaggart7382exactly. Look at that facial expression in the penultimate episode where she was preparing to annihilate the heroes. And even if someone were to reform her, she would manipulate them and attempt to overthrow the Mane Six again, which is largely why i think she is irredeemable, because evil can be redeemed. But is in my dear's blood to manipulate,it is her talent and destiny,and the fact that she is more wicked than King Sombra certainly doesn't help,which is the other major factor,as not even Discord was this sinful, even though he is a chaos demon. And yes: it is strange that a child ended up being the most morally wrong and tyrannical antagonist. In my opinion, the only way to reform Cozy is to wipe her mind and replace her cutie mark with something that isn't related to manipulation. This is not ideal at all,and it will never happen: she is most likely deceased by G5 anyways (sadly 😞)
@@CozyGlow625 her cutiemark isn't the issue actually There's no such thing as a bad cutiemark I think a certain mlp theory youtuber said it best They can persuade others
@@seantaggart7382 I assume you meant Sawtooth Waves by "certain KZheadr" but precise me if not. They have very good points about certain things in the series,but i personally disagree with them about Cozy Glow ever utilizing her talent for good.
@@CozyGlow625 then Well we are at a lost Because Have you seen the show? Not a SINGLE cutiemark has been shown with a negative connotation
“ cozy glow shouldnt have gotten the punishment she did! Shes just a kid! “ ok well this “kid” nearly murdered thousands after breaking free from her original punishment, and reminder that originally her sentence was just being locked up in tartarus, which was basically just jail or juvenile for us in a way, like that was reasonable, they gave a her a reasonable punishment for her crime against twilights school yk the entire manipulation ill have power blah blah blah shit she did like that was a okay response to her crime, keeping her under lock and key like that was a good idea i mean she was decently okay with it aswell so it wasnt like cruel to her, but yk after she was broken out, teamed up with grogar and every other giant villain and nearly committed mass murder AND CONTINUED TO COMMIT THE CRIMES THAT GOT HER INTO TARTARUS IN THE FIRST PLACE i say turning her to stone was basically the only way theyd be able to make sure she wouldnt yk.. break free and do it all over again any time soon, not to mention she had several chances to change and get redeemed she had been offered so many chances and she still said “ nope! I want power! >:(“ and like manipulated several innocent people-
You forget that Tirek and co. eventually caused the coming of the Wendigo. And what was their reaction to that? Ha ha, let those pathetic ponies freeze to death, then come crawling back to us. It's just unbelievably evil. I think it's the point of no return for the troisi villains.
Oh boy, time to vaporize my brainicles and retinas :3
> a literal child > a Queen who did all she could to stop her people from starving as best she knew how, and lost her throne in a Equestrian-backed coup, leaving her as the last of her race unable to start a new hive > guy who just wants to get jacked
Agreed
I normally watch shit at 1.25 speed. Luckily, this channel comes with that integrated.
................OK you convinced me..................
15:23 NAHHHH THE WHIPLASH WHEN I HEARD TPZ MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I remember a lot of fans being mad that the final villain wasnt someone as badass like Grogar, but tbh I always considered the Wendigos to be the true final villains. Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy Glow wouldnt have ruled for long if either of them won, because the discord rhey had sewed would have just been buried under ice forever. They even showed that when they were close to winning, they still couldnt stop fighting each other and would have actively worked to undermine each others power if the main characters were defeated. The Wendigos on the other hand are a literal force of nature. They were built up the entire show, with the Flashback episode showing Equestrias founding as well as the wonderful Christmas Carol parody (with Luna showing a frozen and ruined Equestria as an alternative bad future). They've always been here as a constant threat of what happens if Equestria cant stay together, and personally I think its poetic that the Finale uses them as the big source of tension. The literal oldest and most ancient monster in Equestrias history having returned for the series finale.
Thank you starlight for reminding us that.
So, we all going to ignore the fact that a child got sent to prison. Remember, those statues can be broken, not like we see the statue in G5. It could break, not like they'll follow up on that. There is no justifiable reason to do what the ponies did to her.
Watch the show and think about what she did. She deserves thisnor 1000 years on the moon.
@@HandheldGamer1991 As long as it's temporary.
Funny video, great analysis, but the EDITING?? THE EDITING WAS ON POINT! Not a single moment felt dull or empty, and that edit of the mane 6 kicking cozy’s ass was FIRE. The split second edit at 4:56 alone had awesome vibes on it
If you wanna take the comics into account Chrysalis found an entire civilization of cute fluff loving creatures and murder them. She even squished one in front of the Cutie mark crusaders.
I remembered the show as something for young children BUT I DEFINITELY DIDNT REMEMBER ALL OF THIS HAPPENING 💀
Bruh finally decided to upload after a year long starlight glazing session💀
I saw the "reformation what-if theories" Sawtooth made a while ago and they were interesting. But yeah! You were right! And another good thing is this video is interesting too and has a point :)
i tried so hard to play this in the background, but the editing absolutely enraptured my unfocused ass. nice work. keep it up.
16:24 Why do I absolutely love this but so much
Fun video, but redemption is not something you "earn". You either get offered it and accept it, or you don't. You afterwards either go the whole redemption journey succesfully, or not. Redemption is *NEVER* about whatever you deserved it or not.
True
The fight edits are so cool 😭😭
IKR?! It’s so cool
Cozy Glow is just like Baby Doll from the Batman animated series. Adults with a child appearance
They are horrible people and that’s why I love them (And yes I am extremely pissed off that Queen Chrysalis never got redeemed)
bro i genuinely think you hella underrated you funny as helllll 😭😭😭 this shit just showed up in my recommended damn bruh
anything they deserved, discord deserved too. he freed cozy and tirek (and revived sombra), brought them all together, flat out handed them the location of a powerful magical artifact, and for some reason after they were defeated he got to decide their punishment. one could make a pretty convincing theory about discord orchestrating the whole of the plot of season 9 JUST to get the three villains turned to stone. which is kind of funny when you consider that unreformed discord in return of harmony literally says "i don't turn ponies into stone".
Technically Tirek, Crystallis are not ponies except Cozy glow
Sunbutt modeled an extremely reckless "Good" thing when she got Discord reformed, and he simply followed her lead, in his own chaotic way. Its not his fault it failed, in the same sense that its not Celestia's fault that Fluttershy succeeded.
@@Bird-wz7nx evedently, celestia's plan failed too, considering how even after his reformation, discord is almost always the antagonist of episodes he appears in.
I agree! I literally hate how much discord got away with just bc he was “goofy”. He literally brought them back and revived sombra which could have been disastrous. He should be in stone forever tbh
Brother... you didn't just make fun of Queen Chrysalis. I summon hellfire upon you.
They also held hands/hooves out of wedlock. Shameless.
Yes, exactly! The moral here is that redemption only works if you *want it!* Starlight, Discord, Sunset, Tempest - when they were offered lifelines, they grabbed them. Cozy, Tirek, Sombra, and Chrysalis slapped them away.
These are probably the same people who worshiped Big Jack Horner from Puss In Boots: The Last Wish as the best thing since the rebirth of Jesus and the invention of sliced bread combined for being so hilariously irredeemable while also saying that villains like Emperor Belos, King Magnifico and Adam did nothing wrong and they deserved better.
You made a really great video man I love the effort that's put into this can feel it the entire way through so enjoyable and absolutely surprised it's like a recent video it just nobody's putting this much effort in anymore love it keep it up
This is quite possibly the best video i've ever watched regarding the MLP lore as a non-MLP fan. Good job.
I know of a few others who don’t deserve redemption.
agreed
Someone has to want to change in order to reform
Insanely good music mixing and stellar editing, absolute banger video!
The G5 crew straight up murdered Opaline. Trapped that woman inside a tree with no magic, no food, and no water. She's gonna die in there. That's objectively worse than being turned to stone because in that situation, you can make the argument that being magically petrified puts you into some kind of stasis where you don't need to eat or breathe. Still pretty horrific given what Discord says -- that the three villains would be stuck together forever (implying their minds remain intact while their bodies are frozen). Opaline doesn't get that. She's effectively buried alive with no hope of rescue and since her magic was also taken, she probably can't rely on alicorn immortality. She's a horse in a box and in a month or so, she's going to be a corpse. Fuckin' metal.
Chrysalis is a cutie and deserves snuggles
Literally why I'm confused why others keep saying "they should be redeemed" These a holes had no chill and Cheese Legs didn’t even care that, with Celestia and Luna gone back in season 6, everything would've died because the sun and moon cycle would be whacked with no one to keep them moving.
My headcanon is Chrysalis didn't get redemption arc 'cause, if such happened, she still would very competent ruler for changelings, and because of that, would have high chances to not allow Twiggy destroy Equestria with stupid decisions (which was Sunbutt plan all along)
Twilight should not have forgiven her friends or her brother that easily for turning against her, even if she too was also fooled by Chrysalis. What if her parents were there and they also turned on her? Celestia, her own mentor turned on her. If that were me, I'd feel completely and utterly betrayed if all the people I cared for the most turned on me just like that. I always questioned whether the friendship between the Mane 6 was even that strong to begin with.