The Sony VAIO PictureBook PCG-C1VM from the year 2000. Disassembly and replacing the hard drive with an SD card based SSD. Install attempt for a multi-boot system. The year 2000 was interesting for the operating system options that were available. As you may guess from the title, Windows Millennium Edition is one of those operating systems.
Sony VAIO PCG-C1VM Install discs
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Music:
Dead Can Dance - The Host Of Seraphim (CharliEM. Oniric World Interpretation)
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Man, I miss the sexy 90's tech ads lol. Such a golden era.
What, you don't like modern ads with fat transvestites mean mugging the camera?
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wanted one of these back in the days, man electronics used to be so much more fun, now everything looks the same
Especially cellphones! Have you noticed how just about every manufacturer's devices look the same!? There is very little innovation going into electronic devices these days and it's all thanks to decreased competition and the influx of cheap chinese shit as the chinese are not good at innovation, but great at copying.
@@neelsmostert yes, everything is so stale, no excitement whatsoever
@CEO of Unpopular Opinions agreed, nothing good lasts forever and perhaps we will miss what we have today someday, but still the 90s and early 2000s were the best
@CEO of Unpopular Opinions true everything becomes like crab naturally
Same :(
Sony made some great hardware with a very unique design philosophy in late 90s and early 00s. Even Steve Jobs liked them, he tried to get Sony to license Mac OS X
she's in the mood and he's in a meeting gotta love that one🤣🤣🤣
I'd never heard of that before, but imagine if Sony made Macintosh clones after the clone debacle of the late 90s and it actually created some cool products instead of generic PCs that ran mac os. Remember that Sony actually made the very first PowerBooks too
It's because NEXT was licensed and produced by Sony. He had some good relationships with the Japanese bosses. In fact all of the 2002-2008 MacBook batteries and SMC's were Sony's.
Had 2 iterations of these in the day .They were beyond garbage. Wow Steve Jobs tho? Hes that sociopath from films and commercials. I'm all switched around now that I know the Princess Diana of nerds expressed an interest allegedly.
the problem was materials, all plastic.
Love the choice of demo videos!
Sony ALWAYS loved cinematic aspect ratio. That's why I still have Sony mobiles. Great video!
Just found your channel (30/3/23) have had a real 'computer fest' tonight watching your videos, thanks for sharing such interesting content, subscribed 🙂
I pleased you enjoyed yourself, thanks for subscribing :)
I know this is an old video, but after watching a few videos, you sir, have a new sub. I always loved small computers and always wanted the devices you cover here back in the day. Now that I'm trying to build a Dos and Windows 95/98 machine that needs to be small you're videos will be very helpful.
You're/your 🤦
Really glad you are enjoying. I hope your retro build goes well. And it ends up small, but awesome :)
@@xero110 i guess there you have the answer why you have been bullied in school.
@@RBMK1500You know the user replied to his own comment? he realized the mistake after
in early 2000's I was eager to have this model but I can't. so nostalgic
Thank you for watching and enjoying it with me all these years later :)
I wish we still had this form factor. Today it could have been a tiny and lightweight, but very powerful computer!
We kinda do but only from niche manufacturers and you will pay heavily for it. For example GPD has Pocket series of mini laptops.
I know Nanote still make laptops just like this, unfortunately they seem to be mainly for the Asian market so getting one overseas is a bit of a pain. MNT are also working on a hobbyist 7" laptop called the MNT pocket reform so that might be something worth looking out for if this interests you
We still do. Get yourself a galaxy fold.
I love the Sony aesthetic back in this period. I'd love one of these.❤
as I've become older, I've been finding this nerdy stuff pretty cool. wicked channel mate
Glad you are enjoying :)
You suddenly popped up in my recommendations and I'm watching at least one vid of you a day... Really enjoyed that windows phone...
Cool, enjoy :)
Nice video. Particularly liked the dual coms panel from ST at the end.. was interested to watch the multi installs take place - assuming you edited those as the reboot times and the install of 2000 were very quick by comparison to the ME install.. 5+ reboots for a windows install.. yeah; about standard ;) nice to see some things never change
Late to the comments, but: Finally we can do a subspace scan AND a molecular analysis simultaneously! How often did I miss something in the subspace while doing my molecular work - no more!
Nice! I just picked up two C1's an older C1XS and a newer C1 MWP, that came with 98 and XP Pro respectively, thanks for the helpful video!
Hey I just got a C1XS myself and was wondering if you have the recovery cds for it?
It's quite impressive that they managed to fit what looks like a regular 2.5" laptop hard drive in it. I have a Dell Latitude D420 and even though it is a lot larger than this at 12", it uses a 1.8" hard drive.
That old ad was wild
i remember buying this from videopro store sony shop in Australia. loved its design. still cool to this day.
Videopro? Was this another incarnation of world imports that later became videoworld?
GOD I miss Sony Vaio computers , had 3 Vaio all in ones , they were my most favourite computers eventually when Sony had given up on the all-in-one market, I got my first iMac 27inch, and had that for 5 years , then I decided to start building my own systems .
A weekend plan for my exact same model was to keep the case and fill it with some raspberry system with the secret hope to re-use the ultrawide display. But man, you made me reconsider things. Please keep on digging on the linux route and keep posting! BTW I have the original install cds if needed.
Ayo The ad is wild
I recall I had a 10" tablet PC that also had that processor. SonicBlue ProGear it was. Must have been just after the Millenium approx 2001-2002. I may still have it somewhere. That had a 1024x768 screen and was a touch screen. I had Windows ME on there along with AutoRoute Express and a GPS usb dongle. Quite impressive bit of satnav and in car web browsing (for the day).
17.20 It is NOT complaining, since the caption says the CD contains a NEWER version of Windows. W2000 is of course older, but the installer is either taking the Service Pack release date into account or is coded to encourage Windows 2000 adoption, since it was a more expensive OS.
ENT finale, nicely done
Awesome channel I found. Your videos have entertained me a lot. Great content and new sub ":D
cool, thank you!
I remember when I was in high school, I got my hands on the latest model of the PictureBook and quickly installed Gentoo Linux on it. Wow, what a headache find all the correct drivers to get everything working and the setting the special xfree86 configuration to get the display working properly.
The speed of innovation frim 2000 to 2023 is seriously insane. From 1900 the growth was not visible. I believe, the growth of next 30 yrs will be like leaving on Earth will be in history chapter for next generation
Ultrawide and CinemaScope are not the same exact aspect ratios (though they are close). Motion picture CinemaScope is a variation of 2.33-2.37:1 (64:27 or 7:3) and based on 4:3, while Ultrawide is a variation of 2.38-2.4:1 (43;18 or 12:5) and based on 16:9. This is why watching Cinemascope-shot film on an Ultrawide will still yield minor letter boxing or pillar boxing depending on the "21:9" resolution of your monitor (i.e 3440x1440 vs 3840x1600, which both are "21:9", but not quite the same aspect).
Very cool, waiting to see part II with Windows 2000....
Thanks 😊great video to start my morning
I really like your videos.. that ad though from the 90s... didn't age well 😅😅
I love these kind of gadgets and I love Sony's advertisement! 😂
Thanks for the video, as always, but just my two cents - SD>IDE adapter is a *terrible* idea in this case - Win2k/Me has no TRIM support (and that IDE adapter would make it useless anyway), also IO throughput of the SD card is terrible already, and longevity of that poor SD card without TRIM will be down the drain. CompactFlash (or even a real IDE SSD - quite cheap on Ebay) would've been much better solution in my opinion.
Thanks, I will be experimenting more with CF and other methods.
you can load something like parted magic and run trim command manually if that was your choice or use an msata SSD with fast read writes and keep fresh images of the os and do an occasional 6 month+ secure wipe which in the SSD world sends electromagnetic pulses to the nand cells and flushes the chips keeping your memory alive which the SSD toolbox can do or parted magic can do without exhaustive command line. also if you prefer to run WIN2K there is an unofficial service pack plus a whole windows XP compatibility layer you can add you just need to research it. unofficial 2000 support can enable you to do much more with the pc with some limitations of course also i recommend using WinNTSetup tool for these old sony laptops installing them directly to the HDD which you can provide any missing drivers and slipstream them in @@JanusCycle
loved the desktop themes on these. loved this era of Sony when they really tried to make great laptops the PCG-XG series was another great example many were all Japanese made really great laptops media\business class examples of the era cutting in between Compaq\IBM
One quick note; Windows 2000 is released in Feb 2000, and Windows Millennium Edition in Sept 2000...
Just got two of these with the 600MHz Transmeta CPU. One has dual boot XP and ME, other has no OS. Also with external CD rom and a leather bag
back when MINI-VGA was a thing^^. first time ever hearing these two words together
Spotted what looks to be an XG (Yamaha?) branded IC, very likely a SoundBlaster compatible soundchip, thus may make an OK DOS gaming lappie too. Wonder if UniVBE would work with the GPU or if the GPU is too new...
Had one loved it want one need one
Its display condenser - transformer runs at a much greater voltage, I connected a 11 V Asus laptop battery directly to 2 pairs of cells, that is about 8 V. Some chips burnt out, but still transformed the voltage to the light. The bulb lights at a really bright light at this voltage. Its capacitor type inverter is designed to transform the voltage to much higher, than a similar transformer could do. Sony means: Sorry New York.
Haha, those demo clips :)
Nice video! Not sure if that SD card is actually faster than the HDD though
Loved the video but wow Windows ME is giving me ptsd. Remember at the time deciding to pay for an OS upgrade and Windows ME was the newest OS of the time. Installed great but then started BSOD’s. I mean the PC was sitting idle and would decide to throw a BOSD for shits and giggles. The utter disappointment of rolling back to windows 98 stays with me today!
btw, the strange connector you had been just mentioned is prepared for a MODEM module, someone removed it from there.
The best feeling in the world is upgrading from a hard drive to NAND flash.
A stripped xp and a current low-tech linux should be good options to run something useful, the vaio still has a good size for school desks. W2K has the same hardware needs but got left behind after XP was released.
There are ways to patch W2k to run *some* XP software if you are so inclined, although it is a lot of effort for something that XP can do without a hitch
Debian runs on most things still with a recent kernel
The true miniture thinkpad
Legendary style
Não conhecia. Bela máquina!
I'm pretty sure that connector on the motherboard is for a memory expansion module (basically a pcb with the matching connector and a few memory chips)
I wasn't expecting this very small machine to mount a 2.5" but one of those notoriously slow 1.8" ones (yes, the Libretto did that first, but, whatever). Not sure if that would have been the main performance bottleneck on a TM Crusoe machine, though.
That's a great video. You have the talent I covet. I recently found Sony's old laptop(pcg-182p) in my uncle's warehouse and got it as a gift. But I don't know much about laptops. If I had a talent like you, something good would be born, but I don't have the ability. What can I do with this? 😂
Thank you, that is very kind. There was a time when I didn't know much. But I was interested and learned. If you appreciate old tech you will learn too. It's slow at first but the more you learn the better it gets. A good first step is finding or making a copy of the drivers, if you don't have the original discs. I found a photo of your model. It looks really nice with the darker colour. Does it turn on and work? If you have any questions or need help please ask.
An IDE SSD or IDE to Compact Flash would have been much better, and would have provided much better IO speeds. I recently replaced the harddrive in my 1997 Toshiba Libretto with a compact flash, and it really flies.
Always loved those long boi vaios. Star Trek: Nemesis was a really dumb movie though lol
i have one with bluetooth version, PCG-C1VFK, i change HDD with one SSD 32 GB, geniune OS Windows 2000 with all driver from factory, work great for today, battery still hold charge about 30-40 minute :D
Do you have EN recovery CDs, maybe?
@@teamexplit3363 no, I don't have any cd, laptop come with OS Germany 👍
Bro Sony's ad's were so unhinged
Vaio's designs were ahead of their time, Windows Millenium is the worst nightmare I've ever been in
It still has more ports than most modern MacBooks. x)
My model C1 ; cpu Tasmenta crusoe , Ati 4Mb , Yamaha sond ,256 ram. Come with xp and 20gb hdd . I can run games Queke and start craft II ..with cropped screen only.
Just a little tip (yes I know the video was three years ago) but a spinning disk from the end of the IDE drive era will outperform a no-name uSD card in a chinese ide->SD adapter.. would be a "better experience".
Thanks for the tip. I guess Compact Flash would be better.
I think that connector in the middle of the board is for a modem module, looks like there's a plastic piece where the phone jack would be on the right side of the machine
Así es, un módulo Conexant - Sony 56 kbps que se conecta al lado del DialJog. Lo acabo de ver porque desarmé mi C1VR/BP
The plug is CN100 and the PCMCIA slot is CN1200, room for extra IO expansions?.
I’ve just bought a PCG-C1VE although I think I’ll keep Me on it. I did wonder whether to attempt to install Linux on it somehow. It’s a lovely looking machine, I mainly bought it because of its Crusoe CPU which I find very interesting.
The CPU is very interesting indeed. Doing a Quake benchmark yields a better result on the second pass. Supposedly because the CPU adapts to the x86 code.
I looooved windows 2000
I like the ad about the product 🤣🤣
1:11 that's some good foresight, but handy zoom
Never understood placement of ports. The AC will be used a lot, why have it on the place where people would use their external mouse?
Great video so glad I found the channel. Anyone got any idea on where to find a charger for this badboy? Seems like a unique end and I'm tearing my hair out trying to find one.
Yes, finding a charger can be difficult. Mine has a rectangular plug. Some PictureBooks, I believe have a round plug. Mine requires a 16 Volt charger, some may need 19.5 Volts. I'm not sure because I only have experience with this one model, with that weird rectangular socket. Yet I see chargers for PictureBooks with round plugs online. Let us know the exact model you have may help? And the shape of the charging socket?
@@JanusCycle It's the same as the one in the video, that weird rectangular end that for the life of me can't find any info on
It's a shame that one of these beauties was burdened with NuTrek Picard
I agree. I have not been watching any Picard. But should I try season 3 for nostalgia reasons? Some people tell me to.
I actually remember vaio laptops when i was born since 2007 but i haven't remember the picturebook, did other picturebooks used different version of Windows from different years
Yep, there were Windows 98, 2000 and XP versions
@@JanusCycle ahh that's interesting thanks for telling that
Hi, just got mine up and running. How loud is the fan on yours? Mine seems to be constantly on and I put new thermal compound on mine.
It's quite loud at full speed, especially by today's standards. But it's not constantly on. The CPU in mine is the Transmeta Crusoe which could run cooler.
@@JanusCycle Thanks for the feedback. I have the CWMWP so its a 867Mhz Crusoe as well.
Hey, I just got a C1VN with no power adapter and I cannot seem to find anywhere that sells it, anyone know where I can locate one?
These appear to be quite hard to find. I don't know where to get one. I would keep looking. I would also consider building a connector and modding a different power adapter. Doing this is very risky though. If you get the polarity or voltage wrong you can kill the VAIO in an instant.
It's originally came with win me but if the xp was around defiantly xp from the factory
Loved the ending! Did you ever find out what that weird chip was?
I believe it's some sort of connector, possibly for memory expansion, but not confirmed.
@@JanusCycle Was there a wee hole maybe for a dock?
Bought the same model on ebay. Have a question, where i can download original recovery cd images?
Have a look on archive.org. There are C1 recovery images available. Not all models are compatible with all images. Some are for 98, ME or XP. Let me know which model you have if you can't find the correct image.
@@JanusCycle Thanks. Found something, but unfortunately only in French. If you know a place, where its possible to download English Recovery Images - would be great. 1000sun [at] mailbox dot org Thank you very much
@@JanusCycle Have the same C1VE with Transmeta Crusoe
i remember this was fucking crazzzzzyyy expensive back in the day
17:43 where is Media Bar from Vaio?
Where did you get the 'one tenth the transistors' figure for the Crusoe? I've recently become quite interested in it, but I haven't yet seen that figure in writing anywhere.
This was a fairly common claim in their marketing. If you continue to not find anything I can review my sources sometime. Have you also watched my 'The strange code morphing CPU inside the Sony VAIO U1' video ?
@@JanusCycle I have indeed, I thought it was very good; I suppose I'll spend some time looking through contemporary marketing material, but if you recall off the top of your head it would be much appreciated.
@@pawanyr360 I don't recall, but I will find a way to check. I would like to be able to back up my statements. Thanks for watching and your comments.
@@JanusCycle Thanks! I'm a new subscriber, and your videos are great - you should make more of them!
I want something like this but with modern hardware. Too bad netbooks had died.
something like the gpd pocket maybe?
can you share those demo video "molecular analysis" the last video, thanks.
Yes, here are the original files. They are in Adobe Shockwave Flash format. There are legacy players that will play them. I captured the screen to make the video. drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lvM4w5Px9AoBILxiBTcR6bkiEOsDHKHa
@@JanusCycle thank you a lot for sharing this :)
Hi, Is it possible to install windows 8.1? That would be great :)
The touch of showing Isaac while saying "they'd actually be warth watching". I love it! It's more "strar trek" The Orville than the last three ST official production...
Dear friend, can i ask you something? I own the exact same machine have, with factory windows me on it, but somebody wreckt the install, i purchased it as is, and i can't use any of the camera features that this laptop has to offer, and i can't find the software anywhere! Since windows me is abandoneware by now, can you share this disc image with me? I hope you can share it :) great video and darn your machine is nice man really!
Please confirm your exact model number? There are different software images for each C1 model version. See some here archive.org/search?query=vaio+c1&and%5B%5D=mediatype%3A%22software%22
great
16:28 Windows 2000/Me startup
I wonder if this will run Windows 98 Second Edition with KernelEx on it.
I didn't know about KernelEx until you mentioned it, thanks. Sounds interesting, says it works with ME as well as 98. Since this video, I have been able to successfully install both 2000 and XP triple boot with 98. The current problem is the display or monitor drivers on 2000/XP. I've tried many and they all refuse to work with this custom resolution display.
@@JanusCycle That's sad. But I hope that KernelEx will help. I've seen people use KernelEx to run Minecraft on Windows 98, lol
Cn100; looks like a connector to me looking at the name :) So to access the HD you need to take the whole thing apart? That seems to be a lot of work :( Also the idea to use a SD card with windows is not really a good idea, considering that the swap file of windows will kill any solid state memory like SD cards pretty quickly. You can get a cheap modern mechanical hdd and have that running for at least another 15 years :)
Thanks that's good info. But I kinda like the idea of pushing an SD card beyond it's limits. I put Windows 98 on an SD card in my Toshiba a couple of years ago. I want to see how long it lasts.
@@JanusCycle Sounds good; if you pick good quality SD cards they last longer, since they have more write cycles than the cheap ones. For modern OS you can turn off the swap file, but for old machines running W95-98 and ME I don't believe you can do that; so the SD really get hammered. If you can access the SD card from the bottom, then that's not a big deal, cards are cheap these days
Windows 2000 came in 1999. the general avalability was in 2000. Windows Me camed in 2000
Can i install os on it using usb?, i have vaio picture book pcg c1mt but i don't have the CD Rom
It would be very difficult to boot anything from USB. Sony did not include native USB booting in VAIO until the late 2000s.
@@JanusCycle is there any other option? , using a memory stick , or use part of the internal hard disk to bootable? , because i dont have the cd rom , and Verry hard to find here
@@retronrandom835 It's possible to setup a DOS bootable hand drive with Windows 98 or probably Windows ME install files. Boot the drive inside the machine into DOS and install from there. I did this in my Toshiba Portégé ultraportable Windows 98 revival video.
@@JanusCycle Thank you brother
That advert in 0:41 got me rolling
18:9, aspect ratio you see on many current day smartphones, over 20 years ago.
Why not tryed to reset system password? It's might be ok after that.
I had this computer but I sold it on eBay many years ago.
En Argentina 🇦🇷, no se venden de esos Modelos 😮😮😮😮😮
You should have used an IDE to MSATA adapter.
Is Windows XP compatible with it
I was able to install Windows XP fine. But I was unable to find a display driver to drive the display with it's odd resolution. I believe it must be possible though.
It is first wider screen before Android/iOS screen nowadays
Quien diseña esas mini laptop es un ... desarmar media laptop para ponerle el disco
I miss my fantastic SPY computer! I could interview a person by rolling the camera at them and they never knew
This was the first laptop with a built in camera. They would have never suspected a thing.
Do you still have the picturebook?
I do, though it has developed an issue :(
@@JanusCycle What's the issue?
@@phreapersoonlijk The LCD polarizer has started delaminating from the glass underneath. Here is an example of what is happening to mine. kzhead.info/sun/rcarh5utjIumnq8/bejne.html
@@JanusCycle Oh geez, that is a bad problem... Great video though, but I'd be very scared doing a polariser swap. :o