Welcome to Ron Spomer Outdoors! The 35 Remington is dead. Long live the 35 Remington How can the dead 35 Remington live! Well, it's had a little surgery, changed its shape a bit and now self-identifies as the 360 Buckhammer, and we're going to find out all about it on this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors.
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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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I'm that grandson that got his grandad's 35. Marlin made in 68.
Is that because the other Grandchildren are girls ?
With over a million 35Rem rifles out there that still need ammo, any company that would say "I won't make that cartridge so they will be forced to buy my new stuff" is asking for trouble. Most in the 2A community can be very stubborn, and do not forget transgressions for a very loooong time.
There is still a lot of people who hunt with the 35 Remington.
@@FranzAntonMesmer No kidding, because it is not a straight wall cartridge.
My father used a 35 most times. It worked well.
Hornady's lever evolution really make the 30-30 and 35 rem into new beast!
It helps but the 35 Rem. is still in serious decline. And hunters who use the 30-30 just buy the cheapest ammo available.
God Bless the Man who cherishes his guns, feeds his family and lives life to the fullest and helps his community. Ron sounds like that Man to me.
That comment sounds perfect!!
Appears to be a solid fella ! 🇺🇸 👍 💯
I am the guy that calls Ruger and implores them to chamber the 336 in 35 Remington again. The quintessential Adirondack/ NorthEast whitetail and black bear cartridge. Also, Remington loaded the 35 Remington with a 150gr CoreLokt bullet. I haven’t seen them do a run in a while but I have a few boxes stored away in the gun safe. Winchester just did a run of 35 Rem in their PowerPoint line.
Fellow ADK hunter ! I love my 30-30 ‘94 but 35 rem is beautiful !! Cheers
The 150 grain CoreLokt was Remingtons best load for the 35 Marlin mod 336. They were more accurate than the 180 grain, and had more range.
My 336D 35 Rem 18" barrel easily moves the 220gr Speer at 2100fps. That is actual chrono'd velocity average.
I slipped I meant 180 gr.
You can have one bored out to 35 rem (even 356!) for a few hundred bucks
I heard from a Ruger guy that the 35 rem might show up soon, which will drive the ammunition manufacture hopefully
DAMN i hope you're right...i got a couple of them hard as hell to find round nose to feed them...pointed ammo sticks and jams in both my pumps and levers...when you do happen to find some it's not cheap by any means....
@@rottiesrule5285 just picked up four boxes!!!!!!!!!
I have my father's 35. Remington model 8. He called it his brush gun.
the marlin 336 in 35 rem was sold in every Walmart, gun shop for $350. bucks for many years. they were the cheapest deer hunting center fire rifle you could buy. then marlin was bought by Remington, and then Remington went bankrupt. so now we have Ruger marlins and Henry lever rifles but they cost around $1000. or more. now a lever rifle is very expensive and is not the first rifle choice like it was, many new hunters buy a cheap Ruger, or cva, etc in a more modern cartage for their first rifle. marketing, and poor managed rifle manufactures killed the lever guns off.. Remington is starving off 35 rem rifle owners with low ammo or none at all, while pushing the new buckhammer gimmick. I have 2 rem 35 marlins that i handload for getting right at 2400 fps,
I agree with you 100%
Still sell em or wouldn't be in business n making them. I do agree about straving off certain cartridges n not just in ammo but rifles. I saw the 1st Ruger American Go Wild in 06 yesterday. Tried n couldn't find nor order 1 3 n 4yrs ago All kinds of them in Hypemoor n other new cartridges. at time n since. Unfortunately had to leave it with them.
There are a lot of us out here that have Grandpa eyes Mr. Spomer. 🙂 Enjoy your videos.
There's a bunch of Marlins in 35 rem out there.
I found mine in Alpena , Michigan. 2019. At Bob's gun shop.
I was given a Marlin in 35 Remington about 38 years ago when I was 13. I still have it. Took a black bear with it 5 years ago.
35 Whelen, a nice 35 with no love!
Great cartridge, but it’s in a completely different class than the 35 Rem and 360 buckhammer
A 35 Whelen was my last new firearm purchase . It's a Beast 💪 men use a 35 Whelen.
Love me my Whelen. Probably the last gun I would ever get rid of. It is a black bear smashing machine.
Only heard good things about the Whelen! A cartridge that should have made it big!!? But as you say.......not much love! 🤔😔
I stocked up after 2013 on .35 hornady 200gr. I run a 336. 1960's manufacture. Groups unbelievably, and is an automatic freezer filler.
I would listen to Ron read the phone book. 😂 Great speaker and so much knowledge. Living legend! 🤟🇺🇲
He is an actor, wearing a costume. .... Heads up, Santa, Easter Bunny, & The tooth Fairy are also fake.
@@doneverson1396 Did he steal your wife or something? 😂
@@stanpotter7764 No, I am a hunter. Not a follower. Not fooled by 'Outdoor TV' .
@doneverson1396 Ok Daniel Boone, we're all super impressed 😂
@@doneverson1396 Somebody is jealouuuuus. 😂 Plus you watched his video and read the comments so yeah, you kinda follow Ron.
360 Buckhammer gives hunters in straightwall cartridge states another viable option with a little more zip for catching deer at normal ethical distances.
Yet, the old Remington is a more modern cartridge
No trajectory advantage over the 170-180 grain 350 Legend but it has a little more power due to the heavier bullet. Doubtful if the deer will know the difference between the two rounds. But there is a big difference in price between Henry and Marlin rifles in 360 BH and Savage, Mossberg, and Ruger bolt action rifles in 350 Legend. Also the 350 Legend ammo is cheaper and more widely available.
@@PassivePortfolios it can go heavier in bullet weight than the Legend because it uses .358 rifle bullets not pistol and that's definitely an advantage for larger game than whitetail.
@@donwyoming1936 and illegal for hunting in straightwall cartridge states.
@@BornAgain2019 might be helpful on elk and moose. Generally elk and moose rifles with flatter trajectories are preferred in such parts.
I just worked out a safe load for my old Marlin 336 in 35 remington. 200 gr. FTX, Leverevolution powder. Pushing 1930 fps at muzzle. 1.05 in groups average. 9 inch low at 200 yards. I'm satisfied with that.
First Rifle I ever bought was a Marlin lever action in 35 Remington. Thanks for the way back machine!
The trouble with ‘special’ new cartridges is that it can be tough to find these calibers in various geographical locations where you’d like to hunt. Sure you can pack enough for your hunt but what if your luggage is lost or delayed? All my life I’ve stuck with the ‘old’ cartridges such as 30-30, 30-06, 300 Win Mag and 375 H&H mag etc. I’ve avoided all ‘new’ exotic cartridges and can expect to find the old timers from Buenos Aires to Harare. Your mileage may vary.
I hope that the 35 rem. Hangs on. Its a very good woods rifle.
Aperture sights and lever guns are a marriage made in heaven.
I'm 54 now, but got a Rem model 760 in .35 when I was 13. I now have several other more Hi tech deer guns ( .243, 30 06, 300 win mag, and others). if I don't get a buck with a bow here in PA, that trusty .35 is what goes out with me on opening day of rifle season. Within 100 yards it is an awesome deer gun / caliber. I do load my own ammo, but it is pretty close to factory......... This new cartridge has got my attention. I have used my 350 legend on a doe (won that gun) and wasn't that impressed to be honest. I'm thinking this could be the straight wall cartridge I may try sometime if I go hunt with some Ohio friends again
I bought a Marlin 336 Sport Carbine Deluxe ( half mag., raised comb , and factory checkered , made in 1957 ) in .35 Remington back in 1973 ,after 51 years of shooting and hunting with it I burnt out the barrel and sold the gun , and I miss it , I now have a Marlin 336 ( made in 1974 ) in 30-30 , good deer rifle but wish I had my old rifle back !
I love that your videos are a bit longer than most on similar subject matter. It really allows for further explanation and detail. Thank you for this great video and an entire catalog of wonderful education!
I had a 35 Rem gamemaster. Great rifle but only for targets under 200 yards. Beyond that it dropped like a stone.
Actually Ron I think the 35 Remington was built to be used in the Remington model 8 autoloader rifle!
Yep! That's what I was saying as he was going down the list
Not for me.
Yup. There was a 25, 30, 32, and 35 caliber for the model 8
That's exactly why it was made for the old model 8 auto loader
Right you are!
You know ? What if they do make a 760 woodsmaster again with that round !! I would love to see it !! I would !
One of the most useful Rifle for the serious hunter. I would not feel under gunner with one of these anywhere in the USA
If I need to darken a sight I’ll use a bic lighter and hold a flame to it for a few seconds. It takes on a dark black from some soot. I usually have a lighter on me but so don’t always have a marker lol
We used to do that to the front sight post of our M-16’s on the range when I was in the Army many years ago.
One thing I noticed this week, a month ago Cabelas, and another large gun store Carter`s Country had the Henry in 360 Buckhammer listed on their websites, but not in stock. This week they no longer list it as an option to purchase, they list the ammo, but no longer list the rifle, to buy, or even order it.
And here I thought it was going to be an announcement that more 35 Rem were about to be made. Can't find ammo for my Dad's old Marlin 336 anywhere.
Ron, I would like to see you do a dedicated episode on lightweight bolt action mountain rifles and compact scopes.
I used 35 Rem. best midwest deer rifle, lots of venison brought home.........
I put a lot of venison in the pan and the freezer in the mountains of PA with my Remington 760, 35 pump.
Great gun but hard to find ammo lately. @@ralphyoung9296
Ammo availability. Components for reloading. Probably getting a used 35 vs a really expensive new 360.
@@FranzAntonMesmerit's not even close to the 38-55 case one is rimmed and the other is rimless also the 35 Remington is a bottle necked cartridge and the old 38-55 Winchester is a straight wall cartridge
@@Jeff-sl8xz38-55👍
@@Jeff-sl8xz So get a 375 Winchester then. lol
@@m1a1abrams93 I've got All three 35,375,38-55 plus a 348
I think the 360 BH is a great option for "restricted" areas IF you want to limit yourself to a lever gun. Otherwise I think the 350 Legend or the newer 400 Legend would be great as they run in the AR platform. I have shot hogs here in Texas for the past few years with 350 Legend in AR rifles and pistols I have built and the 350 Legend does a good job. Would be neat if Henry, Marlin (Ruger) or Winchester would come out with a lever gun in 350 Legend.
35rem was my first deer rifle there are some 150gr factor loads for 35rem
The 360 Buckhammer is one of the few “new” cartridges I would actually buy. And I like that it is a lever gun cartridge!
I am at the point of reloading my 35 Rem now. The stores are not getting any orders. Not even Hornady. I get the hornady powder and heads now.
I seen Rem Corelokt on the shelves for 35 Rem & Federal is making 300 Savage. Not exactly as cheap as rolling your own, but they are making a little here & there.
Ok, your opening monologue really made me guffaw! I think everyone needs a belly laugh once in a while. Thanks.
My first hunting rifle was a Marlin 336 in .35 Remington. With the Hornady Leverevolution ammo it was very accurate.
I bought my 35 rem brand new in 2011 cuz Indiana allowing 35 cal rifles for deer season and case shape doesn't matter only length people were cutting 358win to make 358hoosier. 35rem just needed a slight trim to leagle
I used 150 gr. best brush gun Savage 170 pump
I got a marlin .336 chamber .35 Remington and I’ve caught many deer with it over the years, I just don’t use it anymore because ammo is so high. Awesome rifle though. Let me add that I do have issues with the rounds going back behind the feeding slide thing and it’s all because it’s rimless. My .336 30-30 never had any issues. The .35 Remington really wasn’t meant for lever actions like he was saying.
Pa had a 35 police model 81 ,brother got it i got grandads 300 sav. Love em both . Now i got an 81 in 300 sav. Too . Love your vids ron .
Thanks for the video Ron.
I still have my model 94. My father bought it for me in 1966 for $50. It was made in 1947. I just might have to take it out a couple times this fall.
Wow! .35 Remington. Brings back some awesome memories! High School friend of mine had a Rifle chambered in this cartridge. Mark Dahmas...Class of '90....was 28 years ago he passed on. Seems like just yesterday! I was just reminiscing with a few friends about his "Granddaddies gun", when we last got together at Montlake Skeet Center, Soddy Daisy-Mowbray Mountain...Chattanooga,Tn area. He couldnt shoot that rifle if his life depended on it....J Benton and myself had no issues...we hit every thing we shot at with that .35 Remington. That was the last time the boys were all together '92. We all got married, grew apart, lived separate lives....'96 was a year full of BS. Wish I could go back, we took those days for granted, you know? Eh, he lives on in our laughter...awesome times man! Thanks for the memories Ron!
Most of the states with the straight wall rife cartridge came from them upgrading shotgun only areas. My father in law had a 740 and 760 Remington in 35 Remington
That was fun Ron, Thank you.
One of my favorite cartridges is the 350 rem mag. It is a KNOCKDOWN gun. Hard to find. Over half my brass is cut down 300 win mags and 7 mils. The 35 cal is AWESOME.
Oh right. Always had a spot for that one….but have to be content with my 308win….just want want want, if you can call that content… thats my content 😅
The 360 Buckhammer interests me. Only because I would like to go deer hunting in Illinois with my grandsons. Illinois just started allowing rifle hunting for whitetails. They are a straight wall state. Not only straight wall. But single shot rifles as well. I wonder if I could get a barrel adapter for my single shot 12 gauge. I know I can for the .35 Remington. I love the .35 Remington, I saw some recipes for loading the Hornady 140 grain 357 magnum leverevolution bullets in the Remington. I don't reload any more. I don't think I have enough guts to try that. Even if I was still reloading.
Use to have a 336 in .35 Rem. Sold it because I had recurring jamming issues with it. However, when I did hunt with it, the jamming wasn't a problem because the deer always went down like it was hit with a sledgehammer. Took my first buck with it back in 1973. Loved the cartridge, just not that particular Marlin. I'm using a Henry Big Boy Steel in .44 mag with Skinner aperture sights in the straight wall area of MIchigan, but that .360 Buckhammer has my attention!
I remember this same sort of conversation and comparison back in the 1980s regarding 30-30, .35rem, .356win, and .375win. The key to all of these was keeping the velocities up, getting good reliable terminal effect, and not letting trajectories fall off. Best ways/means to do so was averaging 40-75 yard shots and efforts to keep under 150yds. Still have my .375win BigBore XTR. Peep-sight and very accurate. .356win is along same balistics as .360 BuckHammer. I would only see BuckHammer for those requiring adhearance to straight-wall cartridge state rules. Traditionally .35rem and especially if/when seeking good old school used guns.
There are also a limited number of single-shot rifles chambered in 35 Remington. More to the point, there's a TON of 35 Remington rifles already sitting in gun safes around the country, so there should still be factory runs of ammunition being made. The bad thing about the 35 Remington is it has a unique head size, meaning you can't easily make it from any other cartridge. (I have made some from 303 British, but it ain't "easy"!) The 360 Buckhammer has the advantage of being made using the same basic brass as the 30/30, and it could be formed from such fairly easily in the future, if it comes to that. I still have a lot of love for the 35 Remington, just like I do the 6.5 Grendel - cuz sometimes enough cartridge is just perfect! It's worth noting that you can push 35 Remington cases to higher pressures in modern actions, like the 336 (See Ken Waters' loads). Also, the 35-30/30 was one of the very first wildcat cartridges based on a smokeless parent case. Guys would take shot-out 30/30 rifles, have them bored out to shoot 35 caliber bullets, and viola! So, this cartridge really isn't new...it's at least 100 years old, the only difference is it's been shortened and tapered such that it's kinda-sorta straight-walled.
What I think makes the 360 stand out over the 35 rem, the 30-30, the 350 and 400 is if you look at the reloading data there is quite a bit of room for increased speeds. Enough that I believe it bumps it up to a different class. Interesting cartridge.
Though not ideal my Dad decided to take the shot on his running deer in the southern sierra Nevada's in 1994, got his buck. It was at 300 yards and about to go over the ridge. He said he aimed for the lungs but ended up being a bit low and got it right through the heart. Remington Model seven with 7mm-08 hand loads Leupold 2-7x scope. Very nice combo. Weighs in at 6 pounds couple ounces. Had a Kevlar composite stock it was bedded into. He really liked that gun. He had taped a piece of string to the end of the barrel to see which way the wind was blowing and used a practiced hold over. He told me you just have to practice a lot. Said it was like throwing a football, if you practice enough it becomes in gain how far and how to aim. I don't think he took shots past about 300-400 yards though. 500 yards was considered far back then before range finders were common. People could do it but most didn't think it was ethical to attempt it on live game. P.S. He loved lever actions! I have an antler handle knife. It's neat but not as nice as the one you are showing here.
350 legend also equivalent. I resize hornady’s ftx bullets for the 35 Remington for use in my 350 legend. They work like magic on deer.
Another great video!!! Thank you so much. Keep'em coming
Good video Ron keep up the good work
I got a 1.5-4.5 on my 35.
Fantastic intro @Ronspomer!!!
200 gr corelock 35 Rem is deadly on whitetail. I attribute it to the fact that it is only loaded in 35 Rem and designed for 35 rem velocity. Unlike most bullets that have to perform at varying velocity levels.
Your first shot was on the tip right target, right and low to the bullseye. Great Show.
Another Great Video Ron 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Very funny opening. Lots of good information.
LOVED your "snicker" when talking about the Biggest Finest Revolvers! 😉
Agh Old Eyes n Open Sights Are Fun..n We all overlook stuff..
Thank You ...
There was an old wild cat cartridge call a 35 30-30, it has a very slide bottle neck, which was a 30-30 case make up to 35.
Last year took a white tail with my 1866 in 45lc was lots of fun defiantly had to get in close
I inherited my Grandfather's 35 Remington in the Remington model 8. And it's an awesome rifle and cartridge
My sister got the pump Rem in 35 Rem. I got the 30-30 win in a 1894 build in 1920 (as far as I could find out) with a round 26 inch barrel and full length magazine. they both shoot quite a bit better than others I have shot, with factory and hand loaded ammo.
Ron do you think they will make a 760 pump rifle again I hope Remington does ?
Ron , I have a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington. My plans are to hunt with it if I get a Black Hills tag I have a preference points wish me luck !.
The 360 looks like good medicine for the bucks and cool to bring back the lever gun. I love my 350 legend for deer hunting but wish it had a cooler name like that. Maybe 350 buckcrusher or 350 buckmaster or 350 buckslayer :)
The 35 Remington is a good and reliable cartridge Bear Moose and Whitetail But the ammo is getting hard to come by!
14:46 Ron, you hit the top right bullseye. Middle ring lower right quadrant. Man, if you can’t see your hits, your eyes ARE bad 🤪 (I’m old too,)
Loved the vid. The walking in the woods skit was funny. 👍
Love this channel!
I love my 35 Remington--but where is the ammo? None to be found
Brownell's had the Leverevolution in stock last week.
Make your own?
Google, there are some others making them. And do think about reloading. Very simple.
Winchester just did a run of 35 Remington in their PowerPoint line.
@robertmayer6866
Hey Ron absolutely like your videos. I think the 360 is a great idea especially for the guys that need a straight wall cartridge. Now on a different note. I shoot a 7rem mag and 6mm Remington and 30-06 But I am looking for something in the middle. 6.5 PRC. 7-08. 308 Your choice if you could only get one. Deer out to 450. Moose and elk out to 300 ? Thanx
I had a chance to pick up a remington model 8 (or 88 I can't remember which) I really wish I had now as it was in 35 remington.
All things considered your groups are really good.
I had the same problem w a henry 44mag AW, i have great eyes and am a profiscient shooter and the rifle shot 6 in high and 6 in right no matter how you adjust the sights, sent it back to henry to fix the sights and when it came back it shot 8 in high and 6 in right. they did not fix the issue, so i put a scope on it and it shoots sub 1 in at 100 now.
Thank you Ron. Why no 356 Win? Anyway. I like the 360BH. Easy to make brass from 30-30 presumably. Wife has saddle ring marlin ‘89 in 38-40 she carried for 12yrs when we farm rented. Lovely, even with some pitting in the chamber. Did what was needed. Would love to trade for 336 in 360BH or ‘94 in 44mag though. In another world it may happen…have to get past the missus. 😢 Thanks for the heads up on your blog…will take a peek.
I'm 61 and still have my grandfather's marlin 336 that he bought in the early 50s.
The 360 Buckhammer is awesome for straight walled cartidge states. I always wanted a 35 Remington but never had a use for it due to living in Ohio. Went from a slug gun to an inline ML in 1998, Then a 45/70 when they finally allowed straight walled cartridges in 2018. The 350 Legend came along and is now king in my area but I did not buy one because of the ammopocalypse. If the manufacturers want me to buy a new gun these days they have to do better at making ammo WAY cheaper and available. Otherwise I will pass it up. But if your in the market for a lever gun for hunting I would get the 360 Buckhammer.
Well said, they need to focus on supplying ammo for the guns we've got vs another cartridge. Like I would advise anyone starting reloading, stock components before buying reloading equipment.
Plenty of cheap 350 Legend ammo sitting on the Walmart shelf here in Florida. Since most of our shots are under 100 yards, the 350 Legend has a following down here.
I watched this podcast and was reminded of the scene in “Tombstone” when Doc Holliday says , “He reminds me of me.” I m referring to your complaints about your aging eyes and difficulty using iron sights. I sound just like you, but a Williams Foolproof aperture sight on my .35 Remington still lets me shoot to the practical range of the cartridge.
Looks like a normal day during New England hunting season 👍
For the reloaders, .360 BH brass, which is unobtainium right now, can be easily formed from Starline .38-55 brass. One pass through the sizing die, trim to length, deburr and you're good to go.
You can also form it from 30-30
Harvested my 1st buck,with a .35 Remington.
Bahahaha “It self identifies as . . .” 🤣
All this did was convince me to keep using my 760 in 35 rem
I have a 35 remengton model 141 circa 1936 I just retired in favor of the Henry x model 360
I love my 35 Rem in my Marlins! JM originals....
Henry makes a 360 now I am pretty sure
If the rifle chambered for 360 Buckhammer can handle 50,000 psi, why can't the same rifle handle the same pressure in the 35 Rem? I believe the 35 Rem is loaded to a lower pressure because it can be fired in the old autoloading Remington rifles.
I couldn't shoot my Henry big boy 44mag for shit either with the iron sights. Slapped a red dot on it and now it's amazing
For someone looking at getting a new rifle or that might possibly hunt in one of those straight wall states it is a nice option to have. What is a disgrace is the ammo manufacturers charging double the price for 35 Remington ammo as compared to the 360 Buck Hammer. I'll stick to my lever actions in 30-30 & 45-70.
The 35 Rem has more case capacity. It can be hand loaded to go faster than the 360. Too bad it’s a great cartridge. I have a few rifles chambered in it along with plenty of brass and cast my own bullets. I load my 20" barrel at 2100 fps through my chronograph. It's not a max load. The loads your quoting is old data. Remington loads the 35 rem at 2100 fps soposidly. The 2180 fps is marketing numbers they don't shoot that fast unless your shooting them out of a 28" test barrels they use at hornady and remington
Yeah, but the 360 with the ability to be formed from 30-30 brass is a strong point in the long term.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 yep, the 35 Rem is its own unique case design unfortunately. Trying to make cases from some other caliber is about impossible without a lot of screwing around. I do love my .358’s.
I'd love to see a 338winmag video on some lower kicking rounds plus some extra trajectory rounds and everything in between
I wonder if anyone will make a lever gun in 450 bushmaster. Id be on that list to buy 1.