BACKHAND TOPSPIN vs backspin (basic & advanced technique)

2024 ж. 22 Мам.
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In this video I take an in-depth look at how to play a backhand topspin against a backspin ball.
This shot will allow you to attack your opponents backspin serve, push or chop.
In the video I show three different backhand topspin techniques - a basic method, a spin method and a speed method.
I explain the pros and cons of each method and give my views on which method is best.
Developing a good backhand topspin will help you raise your game to the next level. Try out my methods and see which works best for you.
And thanks to Eli Baraty and Daniel Hearne-Potton for showing off their backhand topspin skills!
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  • Basic method: 1:25 Spin method: 3:00 Speed method: 7:05

    @tabletenniswithabp3468@tabletenniswithabp34684 жыл бұрын
  • Coach - Thanks for this segment on backhand spins. I really appreciate how you dissect the movements and explain them..

    @philipyudada6298@philipyudada62983 жыл бұрын
  • These teaching videos are brilliant! Thanks 🙏

    @angelh8262@angelh82624 жыл бұрын
  • Always solid table tennis tips. Really appreciate your videos. Thanks!

    2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks, Tom. It was very helpful to distinguish the options for this shot. This was the best explanation of a difficult shot that I have seen.

    @susanresz5225@susanresz52252 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for you very helpful instructions.

    @3007films@3007films5 жыл бұрын
  • Great coaching... Thank you

    @PhongMike@PhongMike5 жыл бұрын
  • Great tips, I'm learning to play in VR and these tips work. I am instantly seeing results when practicing with a ball machine.

    @PWCDN@PWCDN4 жыл бұрын
  • Yet ANOTHER top video from Tom and what a goodun it is, Thanks Tom, keep up the excellent videos

    @box.10@box.104 жыл бұрын
  • The most pedagogic TT tutorial videos I've ever seen. Seems like he can read the doubts in my mind! Thanks a lot, Tom, cheers!

    @silviopozza8413@silviopozza8413 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks coach. It is really useful and very clear demonstration and detailed enough for all. Thanks a lot

    @gududay@gududay5 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the class professor! I’m sure I will now improve my gameplay!

    @EnglishSchoolOnlineFree@EnglishSchoolOnlineFree5 жыл бұрын
  • One of the best table tennis channels on KZhead :)

    @martinweber3902@martinweber39025 жыл бұрын
    • I agree :)

      @Mathijs303@Mathijs3035 жыл бұрын
    • Tanks Martin!

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
    • Thx for be nice

      @readisgooddewaterkant7890@readisgooddewaterkant78905 жыл бұрын
    • Martin W eber

      @tytr6149@tytr61495 жыл бұрын
    • My favorite for sure. It's actually the first channel I ever started to support with cash (through KZhead).

      @albertcieplinski1870@albertcieplinski18704 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you very much Tom for the knowledge

    @kostasanastasopoulos2887@kostasanastasopoulos28875 жыл бұрын
  • I am getting good so much faster than my colleagues because of these video's. Thanks Tom!

    @ultralooter@ultralooter5 жыл бұрын
    • Excellent. Always happy to help. Keep on practising!

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome tips. Thank you.

    @ravisrinivasan4817@ravisrinivasan48173 жыл бұрын
  • Great thanks Tom! 👍🏻

    @gunnarkieck2063@gunnarkieck2063 Жыл бұрын
  • Dear Tom, thank you very much. The video is really helpful, now I see my mistakes when I'm doing a backhand topspin.

    @eds59@eds593 ай бұрын
  • Great Tutorial👍

    @stefanreuter9626@stefanreuter96264 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the great training video

    @chrisnguyen4867@chrisnguyen48672 жыл бұрын
  • The best canal to learn Table Tennis. Thank you !

    @eduardorabelo2387@eduardorabelo23875 жыл бұрын
    • Canal?

      @Hajjat@Hajjat5 жыл бұрын
    • DaJaguar portuguese mistake.

      @Mateus.007@Mateus.0074 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent as usual.

    @alangoudie2299@alangoudie22995 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent tutorial

    @kaustavray3164@kaustavray3164 Жыл бұрын
  • Спасибо, Том! Tnx, Tom! All very easy to understand.

    @vladimirkleban16@vladimirkleban165 жыл бұрын
    • Vladimir Kleban Thx for be nice

      @readisgooddewaterkant7890@readisgooddewaterkant78905 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you Tom!!!

    @TaiHuynh.2002@TaiHuynh.20025 жыл бұрын
  • Well done guide for dummies. Appreciated

    @letmedietomorrow@letmedietomorrow Жыл бұрын
  • This is great. Thanks so much.

    @nphipps2@nphipps22 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you Tom. I improve my tequinque day by day with your tips

    @MacBelloeRibelle@MacBelloeRibelle3 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for watching. Always happy to help.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak3 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks it’s very clear

    @tinnyunt4924@tinnyunt49245 жыл бұрын
  • I love the method how the coach teach

    @edmundchin667@edmundchin6674 жыл бұрын
  • Very good, appreciated.

    @babakvaseghi149@babakvaseghi1494 жыл бұрын
  • wao!!! A experimentar cosas nuevas en nuestro juego. Mil gracias!!!!!!!!!!

    @victorsoto126@victorsoto1262 жыл бұрын
  • Really look forward to your videos weekly, they are excellent tutorials, which can improve your strokes and general play. Like in particular your explanations and the way you break different segments of the strokes down.

    @robertplatttTT@robertplatttTT5 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Robert.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
    • Thx for be nice

      @readisgooddewaterkant7890@readisgooddewaterkant78905 жыл бұрын
  • Well explained and great tips

    @M.G1440@M.G14405 жыл бұрын
    • M.G Thx for be nice

      @readisgooddewaterkant7890@readisgooddewaterkant78905 жыл бұрын
  • You explain very nicely

    @gitasharma5362@gitasharma53625 жыл бұрын
  • Muy buena explicasion. Thanks. Verry moch 😀

    @tonycorazonoficial8692@tonycorazonoficial86922 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks coach 👍

    @spectra5590@spectra55903 жыл бұрын
  • It was very and so good teaching.Thank you teache

    @saeedhadad9107@saeedhadad91073 жыл бұрын
  • Thank u sir i understand very well

    @renzorendon3218@renzorendon3218 Жыл бұрын
  • good coaching.. thumbs up

    @jamzrez8384@jamzrez83844 жыл бұрын
  • thank you a lot!

    @user-po8dw4jq5w@user-po8dw4jq5w2 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you! Very good job :)

    @darkfeder7715@darkfeder77155 жыл бұрын
    • Federico Licchetta Thx for be nice

      @readisgooddewaterkant7890@readisgooddewaterkant78905 жыл бұрын
  • Very nice video. As a kid i joined my school table tennis and

    @thetechnicalv1370@thetechnicalv13705 жыл бұрын
  • Great job. Keep it up. Suggestion topic: Long pimples against backspin :)

    @djhumantorch@djhumantorch5 жыл бұрын
  • thanks just getting back into Table Tennis, and these videos are great I'm a volunteer at the YMCA and have started a club for adults!

    @jasonstack122@jasonstack1224 жыл бұрын
    • Fantastic! Volunteers like you are essential for growing the sport. Thanks for watching and commenting and good luck with the new club.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak4 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you coach very goog

    @mazwirwir5143@mazwirwir51433 жыл бұрын
  • Bravo!

    @hjuff771@hjuff7715 жыл бұрын
  • Best tutorial for backhand topspin I have seen so far.

    @warrentamlingyi6616@warrentamlingyi66164 жыл бұрын
  • Really good video, helped me a lot ;)

    @martinweber3902@martinweber39025 жыл бұрын
    • Martin Weber good luck

      @readisgooddewaterkant7890@readisgooddewaterkant78905 жыл бұрын
  • good...follow you ..Tom

    @hutorohutoro2196@hutorohutoro21963 жыл бұрын
  • Table Tennis looks very much like a physics lesson - speed, angle, spin, bounce, friction, etc. and anatomy lesson - body posture, movement, etc. I am just a newbie, but thanks to this channel it clarifies many things up. I really love the slow and through explanations. Keep up the good work!

    @foxesruler@foxesruler5 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for watching. Table tennis can seem a bit daunting at first. My best advice, is start slow, focus on consistency and good technique and gradually it will become easier.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks 🙏

    @tamirathailu2973@tamirathailu29733 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video tom......super content!

    @irikanji@irikanji5 жыл бұрын
    • irikanji Thx for be nice

      @readisgooddewaterkant7890@readisgooddewaterkant78905 жыл бұрын
  • Loved this video, been struggling with backhand top spin for quite some time! Nice detailed explanation, Im going to go and practice all 3 methods.

    @ss8101989@ss81019895 жыл бұрын
    • Good luck. Let me know how you get on.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
    • Good luck and Thx for be nice

      @readisgooddewaterkant7890@readisgooddewaterkant78905 жыл бұрын
    • same here.

      @allaniman8829@allaniman88294 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks

    @maksymiliangajda9920@maksymiliangajda99202 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent

    @eduardorabelo2387@eduardorabelo23875 жыл бұрын
    • Eduardo Rabelo Thx for be nice

      @readisgooddewaterkant7890@readisgooddewaterkant78905 жыл бұрын
  • This guy is great! He is the 3blue1brown guy of table-tennis!!

    @farhanshams7286@farhanshams72862 жыл бұрын
  • Very nice video, I think backhand topspin is one of the hardest shot. Personally I struggle with timing especially on long serve with backspin and deep push. The main problem to execute well the shot is that it needs a lot of relaxation in the wrist. For receiving serve, the spinny version is the safest and it is quite effective depending on the feeling of the ball. I try to force myself not to take my forehand to attack those balls but it is hard!

    @hugokarpinski4048@hugokarpinski40485 жыл бұрын
    • Hugo Karpinski bh x

      @hunterzdk@hunterzdk5 жыл бұрын
  • Impressive

    @werkinehfikadu@werkinehfikadu7 ай бұрын
  • nice!

    @chaitanyawankhede1@chaitanyawankhede12 жыл бұрын
  • Congratulations! I made it all the way through.

    @webmonkeymon@webmonkeymon5 жыл бұрын
    • Ha! You deserve a medal for that!

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
    • R I am so surprised to win this bronze medal. I was not expecting to even get to the semi finals. I was so focused on watching table tennis, I was not aware of the time. I have to thank my wife for her amazing support for my Olympic viewing.

      @webmonkeymon@webmonkeymon5 жыл бұрын
    • Tim Gapinski good work to the semi finals

      @readisgooddewaterkant7890@readisgooddewaterkant78905 жыл бұрын
  • Would I be right I thinking that different tables when you play league games can affect your personal game? What’s the best way to adapt to these circumstances? Thanks.

    @lengraham4550@lengraham45504 жыл бұрын
  • At my senior club , most are obcessed counting points , most dont want to practice ...just play.. How to convince them to dont count thus Practice ...i personnaly i dont care points.

    @eloimumford5247@eloimumford52475 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Tom I just wanted to request if you could make a video on how to backhand top spin on your channel. I am struggling to make a backhand top spin and don't know how to

    @tabletennistutorials@tabletennistutorials3 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks Tom ♥️ , can you help me? I can't develop in the game , i play a lot but i don't know how to be better!!

    @_yousef3123@_yousef31235 жыл бұрын
  • how do you prepare yourself for a tournament ?

    @readisgooddewaterkant7890@readisgooddewaterkant78905 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent, easy to follow explanations. Do you have tips for drilling these strikes for those of us beginners who struggle a bit to hit them consistently?

    @Volgrath@Volgrath5 жыл бұрын
    • Easy way to start is get another player to keep feeding you backspin balls and you topspin. Or if you have access to a robot, you can do the same thing. Lots of repetition is needed to achieve consistency.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
  • I think you should look at the finish position of these strokes too. You can see your buddy ending pointed towards the wall with the 'spin method'. Honestly the spin vs speed thing is just something you will manage depending on the ball given to you. You want to increase the speed when you can, generally.

    @wilkinru@wilkinru5 жыл бұрын
    • Maybe. A lot depends on what standard you are playing at. At amateur level, playing with lots of heavy spin can be very effective. At pro level, the players need more speed.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
    • Given the same ball FZD will hit a much harder loop than me. No top player skips out on the high spin loop, it's required against heavy backspin and/or close to the table balls so your advice is quite good here. You are right lower level players may not need to come forward so much but I think it's just a natural progression of the shot as a player improves.

      @wilkinru@wilkinru5 жыл бұрын
  • Great

    @AnantLuhadiaINDIA@AnantLuhadiaINDIA5 жыл бұрын
  • Heard of "aim to miss"? To return a heavy backspin, I aim the base line. For heavy topspin, I aim the net. Works well with me. Both strokes send the ball back on the table. I don't stress on how much counter spin I should make. I just aim to miss

    @LonelyHeartsChannel@LonelyHeartsChannel5 жыл бұрын
    • Interesting idea. I've not tried this approach, but I can see the logic. I might try this in my coaching sessions. Thanks!

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
    • I also use this against topspins.... It works really well..

      @anweshdas6889@anweshdas68894 жыл бұрын
  • Hey @Tom Lodziak nice video. Would you agree that depending on speed or spin method the timing of contacts point are a little bit different ? Speed method tends to be the modern tabletennis ways and has a early contact point. Reasons beeing that you can suprise your opponent and he has less reaction time and that the ball cannot generate so much spin like at a later point. Spin method seems to be later because you are heavily brushing up anyway and the amount of spin isnt such agreat factor. Also the high arc of your generated topspin may need the late point to hit the table( ideal case on the white line).

    @Chas10691@Chas106915 жыл бұрын
    • Hi Chas - yes, I think you have described the contact points well. Another way of looking at it (which works for some people I coach), is to always contact 20-30cm in front of body. This means the ball could be before peak, peak or after peak. But focusing on playing the shot in front of the body can simplify the timing for some people.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
  • Terima kasih

    @arafhakim7608@arafhakim76085 жыл бұрын
  • What makes schlager's backhand against choppers like joo se hyuk more reliable than other professionals?

    @jonahheal7244@jonahheal72445 жыл бұрын
  • Hi. I think it is quite important to keep the elbow a bit in front of you, and stable. Pivoting the forearm around it. This matters at least a lot for me, especially with the second and third method. Without this, my movement easily can end up being more sideways than forward.

    @henriki8015@henriki80155 жыл бұрын
    • Agreed!

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
    • +100 Such an important point, and so often overlooked.

      @5pp000@5pp000 Жыл бұрын
  • I am mostly wondering what ques im looking for compared a loop. Everything here is the same as a loop. I tried focusing on just aiming a little higher to now focusing on bat/wrist angle

    @xxx0ox0@xxx0ox02 ай бұрын
  • My advice is for you to add some couches or anything like pillows on the sides to improve sound quality and reduce echo. There are probably some Videos on how to reduce echo as this will make the content much better. Otherwise awesome tips and keep it going

    @abdallababikir4473@abdallababikir44735 жыл бұрын
  • Even Better with captioned on screen

    @donl1876@donl18765 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you Tom for all your videos! Can we use a backhand topspin against topspin ball? And if we can, is it any diference in the angle of the bat? Thanks.

    @nebojsapetrovic2747@nebojsapetrovic27475 жыл бұрын
    • If it is a topspin ball, you need to start with your bat higher, close the bat angle much more and brush over the top of the ball.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
    • @@TomLodziak Thank you very much!

      @nebojsapetrovic2747@nebojsapetrovic27475 жыл бұрын
  • suggestion: talk about where to make contact on the paddle

    @onofrioclementi3830@onofrioclementi38302 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks Tom. A good tutorial as always. I like you knack of keeping things simple. However, you missed out on 1. The contact point of the ball for this stroke 2. Height at which one should contact the ball. Most players make lots of errors in these two departments.

    @DragonWarrior976@DragonWarrior9765 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, good points. So in general, for basic and spin method, try to brush up the back of the ball. For speed method, contact a little more towards top of ball. In terms of ball height, there are different approaches. I find it easier to topspin peak of bounce, but others prefer to let it drop a little. Thanks for watching and commenting.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks to your practices mr... Im from indonesian.. 👍

    @pipinaripin2892@pipinaripin28925 жыл бұрын
  • How about contact points? Should I aim at a specific place on the ball and the racket? As you didn't mention that, is it, like, not necessarily important?

    @albertcieplinski1870@albertcieplinski18704 жыл бұрын
    • Top of the bat/ middle. When u hit the ball you instinctively hit the ball at the top of middle

      @skerpy8145@skerpy8145 Жыл бұрын
  • Hello Coach, how to improve table tennis by practicing alone with table and balls and without table?

    @hainguyen1164@hainguyen11645 жыл бұрын
    • One of my friends got an old bat and attached a piece of strong to it, with a ball at the other end. He flips the ball up and just practices hitting it using the correct technique. His backhand was especially weak but he's really improved it spending hours at home using this method

      @Wally-H@Wally-H4 жыл бұрын
  • how would i do this with the penhold grip ?

    @jrk1666@jrk16664 жыл бұрын
  • Dear Tom, With the three methods you provide, where do you hit the ball exactly? At the bottom, in the middle or at the top of the ball? Thanks. Ivan

    @2534ivan@2534ivan5 жыл бұрын
    • For basic and spin methods, try brushing more up the back of the ball. For spin method, try brushing more towards the top of the ball.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
    • Tom Lodziak you have written spin twice instead of speed.

      @Mateus.007@Mateus.0074 жыл бұрын
  • How about Kreanga’s?

    @Hajjat@Hajjat5 жыл бұрын
  • What I struggle with is determining the right angle of the bat... depending on the amount of back spin on the incoming ball, you have to adjust and I find it hard not to play in the net or too high so the opponent can smash on it. How do you get that angle just right? It's hard to determine the amount of spin on a ball from the opponent.

    @Mathijs303@Mathijs3035 жыл бұрын
    • Reading the amount of spin is something you get better at the more you play. In general, if your opponent's racket speed is faster when pushing or chopping and the ball stays lower, it is more likely to be heavy backspin. If your opponent's racket speed is slower when pushing or chopping and the ball a little higher, it is more likely to be light backspin. If you read the amount of spin earlier then you have a better chance of getting the correct bat angle.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
    • @@TomLodziak thanks for the tips! I play tonight so I'll pay extra attention to it. :) Cheers

      @Mathijs303@Mathijs3035 жыл бұрын
  • Chiquita!

    @schenzur@schenzur5 жыл бұрын
  • Yes yes

    @user-lq6mq6uu4h@user-lq6mq6uu4h3 жыл бұрын
  • Cool - can you add a movie on heavy back spin - how to attack it, when to push it, when to shove it and when to hum it?

    @LoLo-dh9pi@LoLo-dh9pi5 жыл бұрын
    • I have added this to my ever-growing list of videos to make!

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
  • May I ask if you don’t mind what is the bat you are using. I should buy a bat but I’m in a big dilemma. I count myself as an intermediate player so if you can help a bit with a bat, I think you have experience in bats.😂😂 A bat with good spin and speed and price xD and ready 😅😅 thank you

    @abdullahalsakka@abdullahalsakka5 жыл бұрын
    • Hi, I use a Joola Fever blade, Joola Rhyzer 48 on FH and Joola Rhyzer 43 on BH. I have advice and recommendations for intermediate players on my website: www.tabletenniscoach.me.uk/best-table-tennis-bats-for-intermediate-players/

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
  • The answer is Chiquitaaaa!! 😉

    @alfandosavant4639@alfandosavant46393 жыл бұрын
  • Pretty sure you can hit it with side spin by brushing the ball on the side totally ignoring the underspin of your opponent. Usually (or always?) you have to hit the ball early in the bounce to do this with power and consistency.

    @yudistiraliem135@yudistiraliem135 Жыл бұрын
  • 9:41 HOWEVA! :D

    @Taka7501@Taka75013 жыл бұрын
  • Hey Tom Lodziak... I am from Bangladesh where table tennis is not much popular but I have much interest , true to say I am ready to spend 4-5 hrs for it daily..... But i have no partner or coach to company me everyday.....I have rackets, table & bought 200 balls also..... and in youtube I only follow your videos..... you are just incredible to me.. I have seen your all videos for number of times...... I just love your videos and you ...... Now i need 4 things to know from you......... 1. How can i practice my shots with multiballs alone.... any video ??? 2. Any practice to improve control over ball and spin in any where where table is not available ..... any video ??? 3. Exercises that might improve my footwork ....??? 4. Any book on table tennis that might help to in and out ??? Plzzzzz..... Do help for me...... I know I have more obstacles but my determination is more stonger...... and I determined to play like a pro....

    @arifurrahman2376@arifurrahman23765 жыл бұрын
    • I think it is really difficult to improve without someone to play with. Your best option will be to (a) find someone to play with (b) buy a table tennis robot. In terms of books, here's some of my favourites: www.tabletenniscoach.me.uk/11-must-read-table-tennis-books/

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak5 жыл бұрын
  • dear coach what is the deference between backhand topspin and backhand loop?

    @MDApple-up6nq@MDApple-up6nq4 жыл бұрын
    • They are really the same thing. Some players use the word loop to describe a topspin shot which loops up over the net and then arcs back down on the table. But really this is just a lot of topspin.

      @TomLodziak@TomLodziak4 жыл бұрын
    • I usually use the term "loop" to differentiate it from the usual topspin because the technique is not exactly the same.

      @RobertoCostas@RobertoCostas2 жыл бұрын
  • How to return very low bounce balls ?

    @rithveek@rithveek3 жыл бұрын
  • where the ball makes contact on the paddle?--just a suggeston-see previous incomplete comment.

    @onofrioclementi3830@onofrioclementi38302 жыл бұрын
  • Which method to best 10:50

    @tabletenniswithabp3468@tabletenniswithabp34684 жыл бұрын
    • Is

      @tabletenniswithabp3468@tabletenniswithabp34684 жыл бұрын
  • Haha good coaching

    @edmundchin667@edmundchin6674 жыл бұрын
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