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I literally laughed out loud when you said you weren't wearing gloves because it would ruin the flavor of your sandwich.
Nothing more embarrassing than when you have the soft close toilet seats at home and you visit someone who still has wood seats.😝🍺
Better than peeking into their medicine cabinet & having the door fall off. 🤭
@@droolbunnyxo9565 why do I have the impression this is from personal experience 😂
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I’ve experienced this! Lolol
Great work and thanks for taking us along take care
For scrubbing/cleaning grout I do warm water add baking soda to give grit and some dish soap. Pour straight vinegar over the grout and then the other mix and scrub with a grout brush. Pretty saw it on This Old House before worked like a charm on nasty grimy grout at my last house.
Nicely done! I could here your L4/L5 shifting when you removed that toilet. Must have a few young lads in that home doing all the missing!
Like my grandpa used to tell me, "Those with shorter bats have to stand closer to the plate." He didn't want us pissing on his floor either.
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Soft close toilet seats are nice. Sometimes I forget when people don't have them and I forget. What a noise especially with the old wooden ones.
i"m that way with truck tailgates, so used to my tundra soft drop i dump other truck tailgates
I'll typically caulk around the base and leave the back end open for warning water. I love these not wax rings they have now. Never tried the gel! that seemed fun! Always nice to put some good vibes out into the world, they have a way of coming back to ya!
So you have good luck with the non-wax rings? I just tiled my bathroom, and really wanted to avoid the wax, but I just couldn't convince myself that it would work.
@@spudboyQ use em all the time! Just gotta make sure to use the proper height with them. My rule of thumb is that if the toilet ring is flush with final floor then just the one layer is fine. But if tile is higher than ring I'll use both for full height.
@@spudboyQ wax rings are good, they last for lots of years if installed properly. I use they more expensive ones here in CA
Ive tried every combination with installing toilets....best combo is...the one piece toilet ....thick wax ring (non wax sux)....no caulk......
Great video. Yeah like you said removing the tank is the way to go, makes the job much easier and it only takes a few minutes.
Nice to see the blue plastic is fine, most of my installs were good old wax.
You just reminded me of a toilet I installed for someone a year ago, they called me, I kid you not a week later and told me the toilet was leaking. It was exactly like this one and I had to tell the lady that her husband needs to turn the light on in the middle of the night. As for cleaning... RUBBER gloves, a deep breath before starting to clean up, and I used baking soda, vinegar and water, followed up with a very quick wipe of bleach and then rinse with water. I was just there today and I think he actually took my advice, have to say I was amazed. Timing of this video was amazing. Handy Andy.
Just sit down in the middle of the night and you can leave the lights off!
Great video! had the same problem basically misalignment of the placement doing it with tank on in tight space.
That tile floor is beautiful!
I've done a few toilets and I never knew about the gel, that's a great product. I usually use trash bags or a piece of cardboard box.
I have some reuben flavored latex gloves for ya: also, if its in the truck: -Shop vac the h20 from bowl - distilled white vinegar/ bak8ng soda on grout (cheap) - sometimes ill lay clear caulk around bottom rim depending on type of flooring.. (leaving rear open).. keeps the spray n pray types from marking their turf so badly. You did great man.. love this channel long time🇺🇸🙏✝️🧡
Thanx for making me laugh throughout the vid. Just what I needed. 😊
Soft close toilet seats are a nice upgrade but an even better upgrade is a soft close toilet seat with the magnetic smaller seat for the little ones. Then you can get rid of those plastic "potty seats" that you have to take on and off.
I just saw those for the first time yesterday, getting one for my 2 year old, that is if I ever find some wood beneath the tiles that isn't rotten LOL
The flash light trick.....pretty slick. Wish I had known that over the years.
that is why I always carpet my bathrooms! I never use gloves either
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That is so nasty!
I just bought one of those blue foam no-wax seals... glad to see it was not that. I hate dealing with nasty old wax rings, and the fact that they lose their seal if anything moves, sucks, especially when people use the plastic toilet flanges and then overtighten the bolts.
I use better than wax as well but they will fail after about 7-10 years. They deteriorate and break apart.
I set toilets on a 5 gallon bucket to catch the water tipping it back and forth gets 99% of the water out so it can be moved without dripping. I also silicone the toilet base to the floor. It just looks better and helps fill voids and uneven floors then you know its not coming from under the toilet. I leave the back uncaulked to show if the seal isnt holding which is extremely rare.
thanks so much! I likeyour genuiness & sense of humor.& appreciate the time you take to help others. God Bless! (I subscribed)
You can get that liquid gel powder cheap it's used with crickets and stuff for safe watering
i like your flashlight trick and the gel also!! i'm fixing to check my toilet also due to a little water/leak at front of the toilet. It makes no sense though to me either since its at the front only. Thanks for the video.
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As a general issue sometimes you have to give a little to a good customer because they're always call you for something else if they were the type of customer that is understanding and yes I agree about taking pictures. I've always told the customer one picture or video is 1000 words. You're a good businessman.
You definitely have to make sure the flavor of the forthcoming sandwich is assured!! 💪
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If you are on an extreme budget and have lower framing skills it will get the job done. I would never put a lean to style entry on my house. Gable roofs look and sell better.
Toilet bowl cleaner works pretty good as a grout cleaner. Let it set for a few minutes, scrub with grout brush and wipe clean.
I was thinking the toilet was sweating at first but you were correct. Must not have taught the cat how to aim. 😉
One of the best upgrades I’ve done to my house is a soft close toilet seat.
It's like $10 for such a useful thing! Love em.
For any form of grout always use a good peroxide cleaner and/or a steam cleaner.
Labor prices in Louisiana have changed, I use to be on the upper end of the scale, I just found out from a job I was the lowest, so yeah, Im upping my labor prices,
Damn, this job was 4 years ago?! Time flew
Love your videos ,GOD BLESS YOU
Regular old white vinegar gets stains out of most things pretty easily and kills mold and prevents it from coming back.
Ive used Lysol 10x cleaning power toilet bowl cleaner. Just follow the grout lines let it set and scrub and it comes out. Have to wear gloves cause it can burn your skin.
I use those SS reinforcement rings. And I used to use those waxless rings. They work well but you have to fit them. If you haven't already done so try the Fernco toilet seal. So smart. It goes inside the pipe. And sticks to the toilet. The height of the flange is irrelevant.
Use two screw drivers to mark the flange bolts when installing. Plumbers trick. 😊
Zep tile and grout cleaner. It is amazing
OMG! "Ruin the flavor of the sandwich I'm going to have later." 🤣 Classic!
I did a lot of jobs like your little bathroom here. As much as I like the look of setting a new toilet on a new tile floor without caulking, moisture will get under the toilet and not be able to evaporate causing these staining issues. Polyseamseal makes a siliconized latex caulk in every grout color (even sanded). It's a way to seal joints like this in your bathroom which will blend in with the look of your design - unlike real plumbers who butcher caulking toilets with white silicone. I also use these neoprene rings every time I set a toilet.....which now will be $275😅🤣😅🤣 Paying it forward, you want to be a real Handyman folks, you better take care of your customers from time to time so they'll take care of you!
yep - always caulk the edge and leave the back side you can't see open to ensure if any issue does occur you will see liquid.
This is completely speculative, but I have noticed in bathrooms with inadequate ventilation (or where the homeowner actively restricts ventilation) the toilet and tank will “sweat” after a hot shower. Not sure if this is the case here, but definitely an easier and less awkward explanation to offer the homeowner
If that happens, you can install a mixing valve on the toilet supply line to add a little hot water to take out the chill!
As a handyman my job is to inform the customer, not LIE to them. They want their rear end kissed, that's outside my job description.
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Use comet or ajax powder and a nylon scrub brush. Apply, scrub and allow to sit on grout lines and let it work it's magic. After a few minutes scrub again and clean off residue . A bit abrasive. Could use a tooth brush if you only want to scrub the grout lines. Hope that helps. I use it on white grout line and on bathtubs that I have clean up and recaulk.
You need more than one flush to locate a toilet flange leak-- professionally, I usually do 5 or six flushes to find the small leaks. Big leaks are found real quick with one flush.
I’ve seen comments about caulking around the toilet base, but it’s my understanding that even that can be subject to your local codes.
ZEP makes a tile and grout cleaner I recently used on similar colored tile/grout with major success
You're a dirty dawg handyman. I love it. 🖤
That's a cool sink and vanity
also fix the closet bolts with nuts *before* putting the toilet back - 2 sets of nuts
Toilet bowl gel cleaner on grout lines, let it sit 30+min, then hits grout with a rough bristle brush 👍🏻👍🏻😎
Sulfamic acid.
They make a grout paint, it’s like 15 bucks and it’s a little brush you just go over the discolored spots and in about 24 hours it’ll go back to the same color. I’ve used it multiple times and always works
Comet or Ajax should clean that. Salon care developer 40% peroxide. I did four toilets from 9 am to noon Saturday morning. $250 each. All in an office building. Great morning.
Vinegar is the best for that with brush. Let the vinegar sit and work a few minutes before using the brush.
SoftScrub and a 'utility brush" (stiff plastic bristled brush)
I had that happen before, I pulled the toilet and there was nothing wrong with the seal. I had installed vinyl planking and told the customer I could re-install it after it was cleaned up a bit. I noticed there was moisture under the planks. I said I could replace the planks after cleaning them up, but the smell of urine beneath the planks was so bad I had to install new flooring. Embarrassing for both parties.
The gel product is neat. Personally, I've found that if you dump about gallon of water from a small bucket really fast, the toilet will create a vacuum effect which will syphon out most of the water. The little water that does remain will be in such a low level that it will allow you to remove the bowl without fear of spilling anything out. It's a nice hack I learned a while back.
I just rock the toilet while still over the flange to get the water out, and whatever stays will stay unless I put it on its side. But I’m a noob, so don’t listen to me, even if it worked:)
I just use a shop vac to empty the bowl of water
No need to solidify the water. Just use the plunger a couple times. You'll certainly need to after using that product. Don't over-complicate it.
Steam the grout. Usually cleans without scrubbing.
Nice neat job. Well done.
He's not kidding about the compliments on the shirt. People comment on the regular. Super nice T-shirt too. I tracked down the company and bought a ton of the blank ones I liked them so much. Buy more than one. Once you have one you will wish you had.
lestoil works pretty good to clean grout
Man I wish I had that magic potion on all the bathroom tile jobs I did... I used a sponge...
Shooters with short barrel should stand closer to target
Wish I could see the look on their faces when you say "bad aim" 😂
Great video !!!! thanks
Household vinegar is a great grout cleaner back to gray.
Love those wax free rings, have done tons of toilets and 0 problems. Biggest problems have been poorly installed and/or $0.50 flanges, but adding the steel ring and some tapcons is no big deal, just some extra profit.
Yeah, these would be really nice to have. With my work, we only use the Wax rings and sometimes those motherfuckers can be atrocious. Not to mention your hands getting all waxed up when putting them on.
I love those new style wax-less rings.
Clean the grout with: 1 part rubbing alcohol, 1 part Dawn dish soap, 2 parts water. Let it dwell on the grout for a few minutes, scrub it out, works like a charm on the dirtiest of grout.
Bonami powdered cleanser,apply powder then wipe-in with a dampened paper towel or rag!
Can try the grout cleaners out there. Different grout brands have different cleaners, it’s a type of “acid” that helps clean the grout, then I’d recommend buying sealer to seal after cleaning b/c it does strip the grout a tiny bit, plus grout not waterproof anyways (well, some is, but that diff discussion 😉). For grout sealer I like 511 impregnator sealer (just don’t buy the kind with enhance b/c will look “wet” all the time unless like that look”. Also if seal the grout, would seal entire floor, not just area around toilet as could see “color diff” being side by side. Thx handyman, have good one✌🏻
Pro tip - use a weight belt if you need to lift something heavy like that, and good technique propping you elbows on your legs...
Should have used a sealer on grout when you first installed the tolet.
Excellent video. Thank you. I had a similar problem a year ago. I pulled the toilet and found someone used TWO wax rings. Never use two wax rings. Extend the flange like a normal human.
If you put insulation around the pipes about the toilet muncher you may decrease the decibels even more.
Do you caulk the perimeter of the toilet fixtures in your area? It eliminates this fowling area under the toilet and would probably solve the staining issue on future installs.
Wouldn't sealing around the toilet hide any potential leaks ie: regular wax failing, until they're at a way worse point that could've been caught earlier?
That's why you test the toilet before caulking the base. Leaving the base open allows a nice place for insects to hide and wet stuff spilled on the floor to stink. @@conephompany
@@conephompany for exactly this reason if someone prefers to have the base sealed I’ll leave a small gap at the back in between the wall which isn’t noticed although it’s uncertain if any leak would seep through if the floor isn’t level to begin with plus a myriad of other factors
Caulk the front and sides. Leave the back open. That’s how I do it anyway.
Could it be the tile is due for sealant? Why did you choose not to caulk around the toilet? I am having a similar issue and I am hoping that aim is the only issue, even though I am the sole stand pee'R in the house. Also I have an extra wax ring from when I installed my last toilet, is it worth getting the rubber ring and scrapping the wax ring. Are rubber rings really that much better than wax rings?
Correct me of I'm wrong but I believe it's plumbing code to caulk around the base of the toilet after installing it.
Loved the taste of your sandwich comment, HILARIOUS!!!! 🤣
I'm too lazy to put a new toilet together in place instead of whole. I always build them out in the open easier to work on then lift the whole thing on just like you just did. done hundreds that way.
Yup. Same
Me too! Especially in the day of the wax ring, you have one shot to set that bad boy. Pop it in place, tighten closet bolts, snap in the caps & get paid!
My house has four toilets. I get to remove one and move one and install a new one this month.
That sink looks unique. Any info on where it's from?
Was going to ask what the problem was, until I saw someone commented about telling a lady her husband needs to turn the light on to better his sim. Then I remembered you mentioned someone might have had bad aim.
Product called RJ8 by Spartan Chemical not available in stores but its the best grout cleaner in my experience
Kitty litter will stop the water from making a mess and it will flush when you reinstall. I always have a bag with me incase I spill paint, which happens to the best of us 🤣
I'd have been down a 1/2 bottle of tilex by now. Baking soda paste?
As a long time firefighter.... we have found that toilet bowl cleaner will clean the grout around the toilet....stay safe. Tim
I'm curious why you don't(or didn't) caulk or grout the toilet base. I never seem to have luck with toilets staying put without it.
If you don’t make it a freebie, the Husbands going to be getting an earful about that bill for awhile…😂
Man i was thinking the whole time GLOVES and then you had to say you want the extra flavor with your sandwhich later 🤣🤣🤣
My experience with the rubber flange has not been good. Leaked upon install. Went back to wax. No leaks. Your milage may vary.
The big question is…….what did you tell the homeowner about the aiming issue? Sure she was embarrassed 😂😂
Not as embarrassed as the husband when he gets an earful!🤣
Keep it light & simple, "The problem was just minor urine stains."👍🙂 (And, "I left a box of Depends under the sink!" 😌)
@@droolbunnyxo9565 😂😂😂😂
Could have been water splashing out of the tub or cleaning lady mopping floor. Moisture gets under a toilet, good luck with it evaporating. Gotta caulk these - or go back and do something like the for free.
hi, why did it leaks in the beginning that you had to redo?
Tilex mold and mildew has worked the best for me to clean up poor aim residue. Spray it on, let it sit for 5 mins and wipe it off. No scrubbing required.
Supposed professional plumber came out and replaced the toilet in the house I"m renting and caulked the entire perimeter of the toilet base, said that's what you're supposed to do to prevent rocking and leaking. I'll admit I've never heard of shimming a toilet but I'm not the most famous Handyman on YT either...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express.
I like that tile floor.
Found you in the last year or so, but did you seal that grout?