Myth of Mutazili Tolerance
2024 ж. 24 Сәу.
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The Mutazila, often portrayed as champions of knowledge and tolerance, were actually intolerant of dissent and shared parallels with the extremism of the Khawarij.
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Thank you so much for this video! I had always heard from the Scholars about how Mu'tazila was a Gumrah firqah with their views going opposite to those of orthodox Islam. But then comes Faisal Warraich's series "Golden Age of Islam". I was expecting to learn many things from that. But there I get things like how Mu'tazila were so free-thinkers, rationals and knowledge-promoters, giving rise to Islam due to these characteristics, whereas traditional scholars like Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal (R.A.) were the baddies of that time as they sticked to the traditional methods and focused more on things like the compilation of ahadees and narration verification, etc. Thanks for actual view on the Mu'tazila ideology. You're absolutely right, if Mu'tazila were in charge today, the seculars would hate these "free-thinkers" even more than the orthodox scholars.
Dr Taimur is doing series on mutazila
@@Adnan-jw8lg, he is not too qualified, yet sticks his nose in here, there and elsewhere! You better not subscribe to him!
Masha Allah, was very surprised to see you with him. Great work ❤
JazakhAllah Khayr
Great Work
Assalamu Alaikum Waramatullah. While researching on any subject matter, how to.find the leading scholars/experts (islamic& seculars) to save time?
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته One should make himself familiar with the field by reading beginner works and taking it slowly from there. For example with Kalaam, one starts with Aqeedah Ad Tahawiya, then he moves to Kharida Al Bahiya, then to the Sanusi creed then Jawhara Al Tawheed, then to Al Iqtisad and so on.
Maybe mutazila were somehow orthodox but extremist would be a wrong word. Not considering the major sinners as Muslims was good thing and according to the book. Quran says in 4:93 And whoever kills a believer intentionally then his recompense (is) Hell, abiding forever in it and will fall the wrath (of) Allah on him and He (will) curse him and He has prepared for him a punishment great. That’s why so many killings in our society and they consider themselves as Muslims.
MashaAllah brother. Can you recommend some books on the matter
You can read “Canonization of Islamic Law” by Ahmed El-Shamsy
@@TheGhazaalian jazakallah brother
Wa Iyyak dear
@@TheGhazaalianare there any Mutezilla books that are not impacted by their opponents ?
full video kab ayega? Love from Bangladesh
Here’s the full video my dear, kzhead.info/sun/o9CIhpuFeZqsl2w/bejne.htmlsi=i4zGcfwWxOXFWG0i
MashaAllah
Mashallah 😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Why is the problem of Quran being created or not so important?
Then it will have implications like Quran is not eternal , therefore its guidance or rulings may have a temporary life as opposed to being eternal
@@baybars3138 Actually rulings do have temporary life that is say that they are not logical necessities.
@@NotesofKhan I don’t know but they were on to something
@@NotesofKhanyour going to end up saying jesus is god
How are they evil for jailing & lashing scholars who say Quran is created? Doesn’t Ibn hanbal say who ever says the Quran is uncreated is a kafir, and those who say neither is a kafir also? And the penalty for apostasy is you know what. So I’m pretty sure anyone would rather be jailed than ******..
you are saying opposite read again
The Mutazila were the ones who said that the Quran is created, and then they prosecuted everyone who disagreed with them. One of the people they prosecuted was Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal.
@@TheGhazaalian I meant that Ahmad Ibn hanbal says whoever say it’s created then he is a kafir. And the mutazila jailed & lashed those who say it’s created. So it’s better to live in a mutazili government because they only lashed & jailed people. Meanwhile Ahmad Ibn hanbal says whoever says it’s created is a kafir. And the penalty for apostasy is known. Therefore people would still rather live in a mutazili state because they only jailed & lashed those who disagreed with them rather than takfir which is what Ahmad Ibn hanbal did
@@fahadjavaid7336 yea my bad I fixed it in my reply
Bro you have it backwards, the mutazila were the ones who said that the Quran is created not the scholars they lashed and imprisoned. The scholars that they lashed and tortured were the ones who said that the Quran is uncreated, like Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Imam Buwayti etc
قیصر صاحب ختم نبوت کے دلائل سے بھاگے ہوئے ہیں۔ ان کے پاس ختم نبوت کے کوئی دلائل نہیں۔
معتزلیہ نہیں معتزلہ ۔۔۔مہمان صاحب بار بار معتزلیہ فرما رہے ہیں
han g. Jahalat hai agar naam bhi nahi lenaa aataa. Pseudo scholars