I admire Waldner's game! what concentration, precision of the shots. improvisation!
@olegnekhaev3 жыл бұрын
Especially his last serve...
@dgv6462 жыл бұрын
Wang Liqin is one of the best TT players ever. With 3 WTTC Single Titles, his record clearly indicates his position in TT hierarchy.
@benthekeeshond5453 жыл бұрын
I love hím, too. Bút the most important title. Is missing. Olympic champion. Waldner, Kong, guoliang and Long have it
@tomspice732 жыл бұрын
@@tomspice73 The Olympics is a prestigious event because a player represents his country. But the Olympics does not include most of the world's best players. Each country represents by 2 of their best players, not necessarily the top players in the world. While the WTTC traditionally determines who will be the #1 rank player in the world. This is because all the best players in the world will compete and try to win this tournament, the toughest TT competition, once every 2 years. Wang Liqin is one of 3 players who won 3 WTTC Singles since the 1950s. I would say even Ma Long will have trouble winning against a peak Wang Liqin.
@benthekeeshond5452 жыл бұрын
I agree. World championship is the most difficult tournament. Olympics is diluted because only 2 or 3 are allowed per country. Wlq winning 3 wttc is amazing. He is the only player that could beat ma long or Zhang jike at their peak
@TableTennisHero2 жыл бұрын
absolutely he is one of the best
@ShamyTV5k2 жыл бұрын
@@TableTennisHero I believe a peak Ma Lin would be able to beat them both. But we can't prove that unless we can manipulate time. In the 40mm era, the achievements of Wang Liqin and Ma Lin were just as good as over-achiever Zhang Jike and the Great Ma Long. But Wang Liqin was not as good as Ma Lin or Waldner when they were in the 38mm ball era. The 40mm ball has a lower angular velocity. That somewhat took away the effectiveness of both Waldner and Ma Lin's serves.
@benthekeeshond5452 жыл бұрын
When the final match reached 9:10, JO reviewed every single match he played in his 21-year long career in few seconds to find a correct way to reverse the game. When he finally made up his mind, he tossed the ball highly into the sky. The ball went up, reached the peak, then fell down straightly in a high speed, just like every legends' career: when you touch the bottom, you leave. But JO missed it. Kind of dramatic, even seems like a dark humor. But the ball never truly left, so does JO Waldner. He lost to no one, he lost to time.
@hanshuang64382 жыл бұрын
is that what Wang Liqin said?
@borisgraell Жыл бұрын
Lovely write up.
@pingpong4620 Жыл бұрын
No way wang saying that
@gilekopi72966 ай бұрын
voltei no tempo agora quando joguei exatamente neste lugar nas Paraolimpíadas em 2004 contra adversários poderosos...como o Chinês Ping au Pong ...um espanhol número 4 do mundo na época e outros mais....
@cristovamjaques74915 жыл бұрын
to lift up the ball to end his career as a respect for the tabletennis sport means just one word : LEGENDARY
@faycalarioui1256 жыл бұрын
he didnt do that for respect. he wanted to check the flight path because he missed the serve. probably wanted to check if there was any wind or the ball was dented or something. whatever it was he lost and i agree he is legendary!
@horodomiltd73466 жыл бұрын
ha
@jyothim5585 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂. ....this is the proof....we still have ppl who can say any act as legend act😂
@sandysun85204 жыл бұрын
@@horodomiltd7346 yes
@sandysun85204 жыл бұрын
@@sandysun8520 Body Language is hard to understand.You need to level up your intellectual mindset.
@faycalarioui1253 жыл бұрын
Missing the last serve and still looks like a winner, LEGEND
@MrKexarn4 жыл бұрын
Except he lost... If you think his facial expression at the end was that of a winner, oh man you must be a total underachiever.
@dgv6462 жыл бұрын
4:27 - WTF
@thyagtubes5 жыл бұрын
Perfect games with speed and imagination !!! Its very sad that they made the balls plastic... Table tennis lost 30 years of technic evolution with this plastic non spin brick that replaced celluloid at 2013
@user-qd8db7ft7v3 жыл бұрын
Incredible match point !
@victodead56236 жыл бұрын
1:00 から試合
@user-wr7bn8fy5p5 жыл бұрын
He lost to Wang Liqin, one of the all time greats. Nothing to regret
@antoncigur37272 жыл бұрын
J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree
@niklastorshagen63658 ай бұрын
38歳でマリン、ボル倒してここまで来ることが伝説。
@user-og7wh1ps6d5 жыл бұрын
Thats how the timeout work I guess...psychology game...
@4m4lmini4wdhobbyshop76 жыл бұрын
Breaks the rhythm and flow, at the very least.
@marcusbrsp4 жыл бұрын
Every European would be happy and excited to win a bronze medal at the Olympics. Wang Liqin just walked away sadly and without joy.
@hanzblicks63432 жыл бұрын
Legend
@zerotalent1912 жыл бұрын
China lost 2 medals to Waldner that's why.
@dickn.ormous10644 ай бұрын
Legend
@nofallsnoballs213 жыл бұрын
WHAT A MATCH! J-O KING OF SWEDEN! Fattade inte slutet,hade kineserna slut med ögontejp?
@detskalldaltas1335 жыл бұрын
king of world
@najibasyrafi66173 жыл бұрын
I like jo w always
@muri6793 жыл бұрын
j'ai eu l'occasion également de battre Waldner, ce fut en 1988, dans un camping de la cote d'Azur.Il était à 2,5 grammes et moi à 3 grammes. N'empêche, je lui ai donné une leçon avec mes services type"revers vrillé"... après on a rigoulé
@guimakol2 жыл бұрын
mola alınca devamını waldner alacak zannettim ( videonun bitmesine daha vardı ) adam gitti servis kaçırdı : ) harbi şaşırdım,,, bu spor gerçekten çok tuhaf sürprizler barındırıyor.
@nedimgarip Жыл бұрын
вот если бы Ян подал подачу. был бы ком бэк ...
@alexmich76 жыл бұрын
ワルドナーは1965年生まれ 当時38歳だったのか 私も頑張ろう
@user-io4ps8oq4l4 жыл бұрын
Duelo entre leyendas.... me hace acordar a Espartaco vs Teocles.
@holagame63084 жыл бұрын
ワルドナーが審判に話しかけてたのってフラッシュかな？
@minorboy48715 жыл бұрын
Good game GUys!
@kyr15112 жыл бұрын
Wang Liqin has defeated Waldner... but,, where's Wang Liqin now ? is there any update ? btw, i respect Wang Liqin that plays all out.. congratulation..
@Vario125HID4 жыл бұрын
he's a consultant to the chinese team now
@suddenlee23364 жыл бұрын
Liqin retired around 2014
@user-lq2nu6cn7y3 жыл бұрын
@@suddenlee2336 what type of consultant.
@mindrover7773 жыл бұрын
He's the president of Shanghai Center of Table Tennis and Badminton right now
@hanshuang64382 жыл бұрын
Whoever played better won.
@sh2309682 жыл бұрын
ワルドナーのストップうますぎやろw
@MrChenweixing3 жыл бұрын
最後あせったな
@user-yg5fm6qj7f6 жыл бұрын
Windy conditions, someone must have left a window open
@rodlewis8307 жыл бұрын
Most likely strong air conditioning to blame.
@AGT0M7 жыл бұрын
AGT0M Most likely he just missed it himself and no one to blame
@ongnarukami44513 жыл бұрын
@@ongnarukami4451 Nope,there was a problem with the air-conditioning, Schlager said so.
@dickn.ormous10642 жыл бұрын
@@dickn.ormous1064 agreed...but wlq played better that day and deserved win.
@pingpong90052 жыл бұрын
@@pingpong9005 He played OK but he never performed really well at the Olympics.
@dickn.ormous10642 жыл бұрын
What happened in 3.15 did opponent supporter flash laser to make waldner blind, this how they won then.....hilarious
@ohc0igc0igc03 Жыл бұрын
no tenial que a ver permitido al chino la parada tecnica, hizo trampa
@luisalbertogarciaprieto65186 ай бұрын
Hmmm, Waldner did win this but from what this video shows you would think the other dude won.
@pjorkan7 ай бұрын
7:24 XD
@galandjackson89012 жыл бұрын
no se le debería haber dejado parar el.partido al chino
@luisalbertogarciaprieto65186 ай бұрын
Waldner in his prime and in form was pretty much unplayable. Waldner is the goat with the old ball. Ma Long is the goat with the new ball. Tabletennis was funnier with the old ball. Could switch up the game and Waldner was the master at it. Nowadays it's all about who is the best robot.
@RalphHund Жыл бұрын
But Ma Long's prime should occur in the celluloid era,he was third wheel till the age of 27 which is ancient by Chinese standards.
@dickn.ormous106410 ай бұрын
J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree
@niklastorshagen63658 ай бұрын
Waldner was good before 2000 when less countries competed, but was uncompetitive after 2000 against so many Chinese greats.
@mrhdebater16074 ай бұрын
Waldner certainly was not "unplayable", he in fact had a losing track record against top Chinese players even before 2000. But he was a very clutch player and can perform in big events. He is considered by many as the Goat due to that and his longevity (e.g. WTTC 1989, 1997 and of course the 2004 Olympics run).
@afmirror0119 күн бұрын
@@afmirror01In fact he was 7-3 against Kong Linghui and owned players that beat the Chinese like Gatien and Kim Taek Soo.He was the most consistent players of the 90's.
@dickn.ormous10647 күн бұрын
Jan-Ove is Best Ever. Finland says.
@eerosiljander4622 Жыл бұрын
I think this was the match when someone had aimed a laser at Jan to temporarily blind him. DIRTY PLAY FROM THE AUDIENCE 👎🏼 But Waldner is awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@josephrobinson8894 Жыл бұрын
あれ？ユスンミンに負けたような気がしたんだが
@user-tx4rv3hy9x7 жыл бұрын
３位決定戦ですね
@user-ng8hk5yu4x7 жыл бұрын
Those who say Waldner is the GOAT are either biased or delusional. Ma long is the GOAT.
@noakhaillacomilla61267 ай бұрын
For beating minnows like Mizutani,Ovtcharov and injured Zhang Jike.
@dickn.ormous10644 ай бұрын
Waldner beats all the top chinese players with ease, and that means the best players in the world. But he usually have a hard time against any other countries players. It's a little weird
@niklastorshagen6365 Жыл бұрын
Waldner joked about communism
@djmix5000 Жыл бұрын
Cause Europeans are taller with better defence/backhand than Asians.
@dickn.ormous10644 ай бұрын
Actually he couldn't beat any of the Chinese greats after 2000.
@mrhdebater16074 ай бұрын
@@mrhdebater1607 Fake news alert!
@dickn.ormous10644 ай бұрын
WALDNER DONT LIKE SCREEEMING CHINIESE WITHOUT TEJP WHO HOLD UP THEIR EYES!
@detskalldaltas1335 жыл бұрын
Swinglish showing its dumb side again
@jonathanmellqvist25 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmellqvist2 Kommentera då ej din höna. Hela käften full med Pride!
@detskalldaltas1335 жыл бұрын
Chinese are always admiring Swedish players like Waldner and Persson while Swedish people insulting Chinese players with arrogance. That's the difference between a Empire with 5 thousand years of history and uncivilized Viking pirates.
@hanshuang64382 жыл бұрын
If waldner complained about the serve then it’s so stupid from him because he got far in table tennis only because he has a false serve
@DizXBear4 жыл бұрын
BearPlays There were other serve rules at that time
@pontusschroder83614 жыл бұрын
Pontus Schroder I know that, and that’s why it’s ridiculous because all his serves are false and the one of wang liqin are more « legal » than waldner’s
@DizXBear4 жыл бұрын
Waldner benefitted from hidden serve
@alberthuang48683 жыл бұрын
@@DizXBear Waldner had one of the most legal serves after the new rules were imposed, he immediately placed his left hand on his hip after tossing the ball.Wang Liqin served with his back facing the opponent,Ma Lin also cheated with his serve.
its sad watching that last serve fault!
Spoiler alert!
Right... but always like.jo.service
I admire Waldner's game! what concentration, precision of the shots. improvisation!
Especially his last serve...
Wang Liqin is one of the best TT players ever. With 3 WTTC Single Titles, his record clearly indicates his position in TT hierarchy.
I love hím, too. Bút the most important title. Is missing. Olympic champion. Waldner, Kong, guoliang and Long have it
@@tomspice73 The Olympics is a prestigious event because a player represents his country. But the Olympics does not include most of the world's best players. Each country represents by 2 of their best players, not necessarily the top players in the world. While the WTTC traditionally determines who will be the #1 rank player in the world. This is because all the best players in the world will compete and try to win this tournament, the toughest TT competition, once every 2 years. Wang Liqin is one of 3 players who won 3 WTTC Singles since the 1950s. I would say even Ma Long will have trouble winning against a peak Wang Liqin.
I agree. World championship is the most difficult tournament. Olympics is diluted because only 2 or 3 are allowed per country. Wlq winning 3 wttc is amazing. He is the only player that could beat ma long or Zhang jike at their peak
absolutely he is one of the best
@@TableTennisHero I believe a peak Ma Lin would be able to beat them both. But we can't prove that unless we can manipulate time. In the 40mm era, the achievements of Wang Liqin and Ma Lin were just as good as over-achiever Zhang Jike and the Great Ma Long. But Wang Liqin was not as good as Ma Lin or Waldner when they were in the 38mm ball era. The 40mm ball has a lower angular velocity. That somewhat took away the effectiveness of both Waldner and Ma Lin's serves.
When the final match reached 9:10, JO reviewed every single match he played in his 21-year long career in few seconds to find a correct way to reverse the game. When he finally made up his mind, he tossed the ball highly into the sky. The ball went up, reached the peak, then fell down straightly in a high speed, just like every legends' career: when you touch the bottom, you leave. But JO missed it. Kind of dramatic, even seems like a dark humor. But the ball never truly left, so does JO Waldner. He lost to no one, he lost to time.
is that what Wang Liqin said?
Lovely write up.
No way wang saying that
voltei no tempo agora quando joguei exatamente neste lugar nas Paraolimpíadas em 2004 contra adversários poderosos...como o Chinês Ping au Pong ...um espanhol número 4 do mundo na época e outros mais....
to lift up the ball to end his career as a respect for the tabletennis sport means just one word : LEGENDARY
he didnt do that for respect. he wanted to check the flight path because he missed the serve. probably wanted to check if there was any wind or the ball was dented or something. whatever it was he lost and i agree he is legendary!
ha
Lol 😂. ....this is the proof....we still have ppl who can say any act as legend act😂
@@horodomiltd7346 yes
@@sandysun8520 Body Language is hard to understand.You need to level up your intellectual mindset.
Missing the last serve and still looks like a winner, LEGEND
Except he lost... If you think his facial expression at the end was that of a winner, oh man you must be a total underachiever.
4:27 - WTF
Perfect games with speed and imagination !!! Its very sad that they made the balls plastic... Table tennis lost 30 years of technic evolution with this plastic non spin brick that replaced celluloid at 2013
Incredible match point !
1:00 から試合
He lost to Wang Liqin, one of the all time greats. Nothing to regret
J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree
38歳でマリン、ボル倒してここまで来ることが伝説。
Thats how the timeout work I guess...psychology game...
Breaks the rhythm and flow, at the very least.
Every European would be happy and excited to win a bronze medal at the Olympics. Wang Liqin just walked away sadly and without joy.
Legend
China lost 2 medals to Waldner that's why.
Legend
WHAT A MATCH! J-O KING OF SWEDEN! Fattade inte slutet,hade kineserna slut med ögontejp?
king of world
I like jo w always
j'ai eu l'occasion également de battre Waldner, ce fut en 1988, dans un camping de la cote d'Azur.Il était à 2,5 grammes et moi à 3 grammes. N'empêche, je lui ai donné une leçon avec mes services type"revers vrillé"... après on a rigoulé
mola alınca devamını waldner alacak zannettim ( videonun bitmesine daha vardı ) adam gitti servis kaçırdı : ) harbi şaşırdım,,, bu spor gerçekten çok tuhaf sürprizler barındırıyor.
вот если бы Ян подал подачу. был бы ком бэк ...
ワルドナーは1965年生まれ 当時38歳だったのか 私も頑張ろう
Duelo entre leyendas.... me hace acordar a Espartaco vs Teocles.
ワルドナーが審判に話しかけてたのってフラッシュかな？
Good game GUys!
Wang Liqin has defeated Waldner... but,, where's Wang Liqin now ? is there any update ? btw, i respect Wang Liqin that plays all out.. congratulation..
he's a consultant to the chinese team now
Liqin retired around 2014
@@suddenlee2336 what type of consultant.
He's the president of Shanghai Center of Table Tennis and Badminton right now
Whoever played better won.
ワルドナーのストップうますぎやろw
最後あせったな
Windy conditions, someone must have left a window open
Most likely strong air conditioning to blame.
AGT0M Most likely he just missed it himself and no one to blame
@@ongnarukami4451 Nope,there was a problem with the air-conditioning, Schlager said so.
@@dickn.ormous1064 agreed...but wlq played better that day and deserved win.
@@pingpong9005 He played OK but he never performed really well at the Olympics.
What happened in 3.15 did opponent supporter flash laser to make waldner blind, this how they won then.....hilarious
no tenial que a ver permitido al chino la parada tecnica, hizo trampa
Hmmm, Waldner did win this but from what this video shows you would think the other dude won.
7:24 XD
no se le debería haber dejado parar el.partido al chino
Waldner in his prime and in form was pretty much unplayable. Waldner is the goat with the old ball. Ma Long is the goat with the new ball. Tabletennis was funnier with the old ball. Could switch up the game and Waldner was the master at it. Nowadays it's all about who is the best robot.
But Ma Long's prime should occur in the celluloid era,he was third wheel till the age of 27 which is ancient by Chinese standards.
J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree
Waldner was good before 2000 when less countries competed, but was uncompetitive after 2000 against so many Chinese greats.
Waldner certainly was not "unplayable", he in fact had a losing track record against top Chinese players even before 2000. But he was a very clutch player and can perform in big events. He is considered by many as the Goat due to that and his longevity (e.g. WTTC 1989, 1997 and of course the 2004 Olympics run).
@@afmirror01In fact he was 7-3 against Kong Linghui and owned players that beat the Chinese like Gatien and Kim Taek Soo.He was the most consistent players of the 90's.
Jan-Ove is Best Ever. Finland says.
I think this was the match when someone had aimed a laser at Jan to temporarily blind him. DIRTY PLAY FROM THE AUDIENCE 👎🏼 But Waldner is awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
あれ？ユスンミンに負けたような気がしたんだが
３位決定戦ですね
Those who say Waldner is the GOAT are either biased or delusional. Ma long is the GOAT.
For beating minnows like Mizutani,Ovtcharov and injured Zhang Jike.
Waldner beats all the top chinese players with ease, and that means the best players in the world. But he usually have a hard time against any other countries players. It's a little weird
Waldner joked about communism
Cause Europeans are taller with better defence/backhand than Asians.
Actually he couldn't beat any of the Chinese greats after 2000.
@@mrhdebater1607 Fake news alert!
WALDNER DONT LIKE SCREEEMING CHINIESE WITHOUT TEJP WHO HOLD UP THEIR EYES!
Swinglish showing its dumb side again
@@jonathanmellqvist2 Kommentera då ej din höna. Hela käften full med Pride!
Chinese are always admiring Swedish players like Waldner and Persson while Swedish people insulting Chinese players with arrogance. That's the difference between a Empire with 5 thousand years of history and uncivilized Viking pirates.
If waldner complained about the serve then it’s so stupid from him because he got far in table tennis only because he has a false serve
BearPlays There were other serve rules at that time
Pontus Schroder I know that, and that’s why it’s ridiculous because all his serves are false and the one of wang liqin are more « legal » than waldner’s
Waldner benefitted from hidden serve
@@DizXBear Waldner had one of the most legal serves after the new rules were imposed, he immediately placed his left hand on his hip after tossing the ball.Wang Liqin served with his back facing the opponent,Ma Lin also cheated with his serve.
Only jealous on Waldner...