Human cells grown in monkey embryos spark ethical debate - BBC News
Monkey embryos containing human cells have been made in a laboratory, a study has confirmed.
The scientists injected human stem cells - that have the ability to develop into many different body tissues - into macaque embryos.
Other so-called mixed-species embryos, or chimeras, have been produced in the past, with human cells implanted into sheep and pig embryos.
The researchers says their work could pave the way in addressing the severe shortage in transplantable organs as well as help understand more about early human development, disease progression and ageing.
Some scientists have, however, raised concerns about the experiment, arguing that while the embryos in this case were destroyed at 20 days, others could try to take the work further.
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"were not really sure what sort of organism we created" Sounds like the begining to a bad horror movie.
Then the serpent said unto the woman, “You will not surely die... You shall be as Gods" - Genesis
Or the beginning of greatness!!!! Think of it!!! Demihumans! Nekos! An anime fan's biggest dream!
@@immixvar8342 We heard this before in Germany in the 1930's, foook off Nazi and end
@@mikekane2492 You think forced sterilisation is progressive ^^'? But yes, monsters never view themselves as monsters. The issue with eugenics is its up to a human to decide what is optimal and what isn't, the nazis wanted a fantasy of a mystical aryan race with blue eyes and perfect noses; but blue eyes are a rare gene lol. 'Perfection' and nature dont go together, eugenics are always going to be dodgy as a result. What is a desirable trait? What do we want the outcome to be of improving humanity? 7 billion people, which one do we decide is the 'gold standard'.
@@rustytinfoilhatchannel4815 Gods or Zombies.
internet : makes memes about returning to monke. Scientists : and i took that personally .
And the probability of a random ape event increases exponentially
hahahah
@@latote1917 W
Planet of the ape
Yet there’s no problem putting monkey rna in the AZ jab be fair lol
I’m not shocked by this behaviour at this point Imagine what else they are doing behind closed doors it’s scary
For real!
Evil.
Why does science frighten you? Sometimes it’s just fear of the unknown.
@@deltanovember1672 should we fear or should we accept ?....(hypnotic sfx) dopp doop doobop boop pobb dopng
These are the Meetings of the Eccentric Scientists.
That lady knows something she’s not allowed to say. I can feel it.
They went well pass the time she saying I’m sure of it
Before you know it, these chimeras will have human rights like all of us.
Yes all except for the unborn.
@@thebee8415 The unborn chimeras?
Don’t tell this to the Uighurs and Chechen gays.
@@deltanovember1672 No the unborn humans.
as god said " if its not for God pushing people to correct each other, the earth will be doomed" or so is the meaning.
Whoah, careful! You might work out that its also unethical to perform random experiments on normal monkeys with that line of thinking!
How so? They're saying that it only deserves recpect if it was more human than monkey which dismisses the rights of non human animals even more not reinforce them
@@kareem4333 exactly this people are sickos, im not no animal lover but have morals and standards better than these fools
@@kareem4333 It's sarcasm. The OP is saying exacty what you said.
It is however perfectly ethical to perform random experiments on Human subjects with experimental gene therapy vaccines?
@@michaellilley6725 well yeah kinda seeing as they volunteered...
there are some things in which man was never meant to tamper.
That's where our quest for biological or medical knowledge is taking us, that's where we will be going. 😉
we all know they create all kind of crazy stuff down in those labs, regardless of what's ethical or not 😳
Show us your evidence then.
@@deltanovember1672 i dont have... what makes you think scientists and military act ethically behind closed doors tho?
@@deltanovember1672 animal testing for medicine and makeup, usually causing in illness, death, and stress in animals.
@@deltanovember1672 Can you say Covid 19 ?
@@wildboysplanet205 what youre saying is the stupidest thing ever. you dont have proof so why claim something so outrageous? it's a given that they act responsibly. you wouldnt walk up to a random person on the street and claim that they perform unethical experiments on animals would you? i mean, what makes you random people act ethically behind closed doors tho?
of all the things China and US can and should be cooperating together, this is a rather weird one.
So maybe China n the US are both responsible for the covid 19 virus , I can't quite dismiss the rumours of fort dendrik . If they have funding and time for this sick competition I shudder to think what else they are hiding.
@@ariadneschild8460 exactly my thought as well. They were blaming each other when things go out of hand or maybe it was all an act? Because we know for a fact that government dont really care about people
@@arieldelapena5409 every country blamed China but I thought it was a false flag operation by putin . China is ideologically different to the west but participates in the global economy Russia doesn't . It has resources but little to no market for them and traditional warfare is expensive. A pandemic was a genius way of disrupting the global economy and global travel. The situation with the Ukraine is a worry, I doubt the un will send nato or whoever into that and putin is banking on little to no interference . Nevermind China and India's border "tensions" , why does the media make armies killing each other to keep a border sound like a headache ?
@@ariadneschild8460 conspiracies much
@@adrianatgaming8640 much, disinformation is a kgb tactic from way back, Occums Razor was part of my consideration too.
Last news Japan dumping nuclear waste to Pacific Ocean!Now Human-Monkey embryos!!King Kong vs Godzilla make it happen in real!!
Liberal, SJW, Green, Can Do Nothing if it's done by China..
@@lifeisneverthesame910 seek counselling
@@nathanlevesque7812 it's a fact..
@@lifeisneverthesame910 Your 'claim' isn't even a complete thought. 'Fact' isn't even an applicable concept to what you wrote, whether true or not. On the other hand it's already clearly stereotyping.
Wow!! Nice!!!
_"There's a fine line between genius and insanity"_ -Oscar Levant This genuinely terrifies me
I love the way she completely kicks the can of ethical responsibility down the road. "Yeah well when we create this being in the lab and we don't know what it is, thats not really as much as a problem for the researchers." Thats one hell of a way to neglect responsibility for what you have done. This behavior, of creating something without any forethought or responsibility for the implications of what they create is disturbing as HELL. The plans they have for these "creations" is even worse, because as it sits we, humanity, plan on growing human-monkey hybrids to harvest their organs to make ourselfs live longer. I have no words.
it means it gets killed and not allowed to develop. lol
@@TBButtSmoothyyou really believe that though? Publicly they will say that. But I guarantee you the CCP are growing these chimeras and harvesting the organs right now
I agree, but small distinction here I don't think she's saying what they're doing is okay. I think she's saying the horrible things they've done thus far aren't as bad as it could get. Essentially, we killed off these half breed things before they could develop, but imagine how bad it would be if we didn't kill them? Imagine if we let these abominations develop and torture these potentially humanoid creatures by trapping them in animal bodies? The whole thing creeps me out.
😢 it’s disgusting
@@fandangofanfulyes, agreed. the original comment is pointing out the fact that all of that should’ve been considered before taking action. They were capable of considering the future damages at this stage in the process, why couldn’t they consider it before the process started? They don’t care about ethics clearly. There’s a different reason they pulled the plug, and they’re politicking around it IMO
I just tried explaining this to my 5 year old, im pretty sure he's expecting Planet Of The Apes 🤣
😂🤣😂😂
🤣🤣
"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
They definitely should
Ok at this point the way Humans are destined to destroy ourselves is a total lottery, lol * Taking all bets MJ popcorn meme 🍿
Bats And other crazy stuff.
I'm too drunk to taste this chicken
We better find a way to develop technology to reach to another earthlike planet because this one's time is ticking. At this point I feel so bad for what will be left for our future generations. Smh.
"Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should." - Dr. Ian Malcolm
Eeeeyyyeee! I commented that too!! Lol it's what i thought as soon as i watched this.
@@katluver09 someone of culture
Animals already do have similar level of sentience to humans. It shouldn't matter if it's human or not, other animals have the same capacity to feel pain, fear, loneliness. Animal testing is straight up ethically wrong.
What about all the lives it saves in humans?
@@theyoutubeguy1 I'm all for saving lives, but ultimately medicines and products we use on humans have to be tested on humans. What it comes down to is that its' unnecessary to test on other animals, and it's unnecessary because there are alternatives: Micro-dosing on volunteers. In-vitro, tissue on a chip, computer models.
@@fruitfunfitness3584 That doesn’t really work, if we’re testing cures for cancer per say as one example we use animals to work out a lethal dose as well as potential efficacy in humans. This is often done with lab mice or rats or hamsters. If we used humans we would in essence have to kill humans to work out what a lethal dose for humans would be. If we were killing humans to save them that wouldn’t exactly be very ethical. I don’t know personally what your views are but in my opinion as valuable as animal life is, human life or more specifically the life of our own species is more important than the life of other animals. If not then such things as what Hitler, Russia, the USA, UK and many others did during WW2 would be okay and a great example to follow. They in my opinion weren’t and when dealing with human life studies have shown that playing with it can be mentally damaging for those that do it, they desensitise themselves and can do some very unusual things such as human bound books or human jewellery. I mean personally I wouldn’t want to put my life at risk for a cure before it is tested on something else would you?
@@harismohammad2005 Human cell-line studies are actually better at predicting toxicity in humans. Plus they are quicker and cheaper.
@@fruitfunfitness3584 That is wear you are wrong to an extent, you are only considering cell lines but what about an organism as a whole itself. Scientific studies have shown compared to a whole organism as great as cell studies are, which they are they do not show all possible interactions an organism could have with a drug. For example what effect could the liver have on a drug, or maybe hormones so on so forth.
Finally we can return to Monke
*Monke*
*Monke*
I need to be embryo
But we are already monke
*Monke*
This will be the next generation of Amazon workers.
Imagine the things already doing that we don't know about.
This feels like a blackmirror episode
“For scientific studies of aging” 😂. For scientists, any excuse to make a hybrid human/animal species. Damn right it’s unethical!
@Darknees XL Horse?
It is not hybrid. Its study of human zygote
I dont understand whats so unethical about cameras. You dont want cute anime cat girl wifus
Don't be such a populist, now
2030 Mokey: wanna go Starbucks Me: alright
" And God went on to make the wild animals of the earth according to their Kinds and the domestic animals according to their kinds and all the creeping animals of the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good." (Genesis 1:24, 25)
and so?
And then humans did the same...and for some reason humans say that'll piss him off like they know God so well.
"It's not nice to fool Mother Nature." That never works out in our favor.
Ah, so no more pastry, cheese, alcohol, antibiotics...literally anything that we've selectively bred for our purposes...
@Doris Johnson You have a sick mind.
Fooling Mother Nature started since the advent of agriculture. for example, Bananas.
Mother Nature is not a conscious entity.
@@nathanlevesque7812 you have
Been waiting a long time for this to be public
Too bad most public are appalled at it. Wish it would stay privet as the public will want to cancel it.
Retibution us opon us for these things
You could have enlightened us sooner with your insider knowledge!
@@immixvar8342 agreed! Personally I'm all for it.
It's been public for ages Noone cared until media started talking about it It's annoying This could be useful
Wait! I'm sure I've heard this in a movie somewhere?? 🤔 (Cough, *Planet of the Apes* cough, cough!)
me too (caugh fullmetal alchemist cough cough)
@@sneak1677 Edward....
Sweet tooth on Netflix
She really is trying to say human monkey hybrids have rights...
New species created by researchers : Humonke 😂 One day that Humonke will slap you if you don't give him computer to play video games 😂
Rise of Humonkes coming sooon.
Ah yes, the hemonkuli
Mankey 😑
Coronavirus: it’s free real estate
Underrated comment.
Oof
As the saying goes, "the bigger the risk, the bigger the reward" but don't forget about the possible consequences along with or without the rewards. It may be devastating.... I hope it won't happen in the worse case.
You're dangerously optimistic.
What's happening?
@@mikkey246 go back to monkey
Was thinking of this a while back. Knew there would be ethical repercussions, but it may be a reality someday not too far into the future. How do you even stop people's curiosity to search for answers?
one day humans will have the ability to become MONKE
Humans are the next stage of monkey evolution lol
@@FATHOLLYWOODB123 r/woooosh
I'm gonna add chewbacca in my friendlist
Okay so first its human monkey hybrids, someone wake me up when we get to cat girls
Yes
Weebs unite
Like while they are at it they might aswell hope I'm still alive for when they do
The scientist that did this needs locking away, he's/they are sick in the head, it's a disgusting thing to do
Karl Pilkington will be losing his shit when he sees this news
Simple yet best comment so far
This is what a civilization in decline looks like.
We need progress with this sort of things
NO WE DO NOT
@@samreynolds3789 anti progress
agreed I wanna know
Ethics and people's feelings hold back humanity from the next stages of science. We wouldn't have half the things we have today if it weren't for the monsters of yesterday pushing the envelope.
@@notrando5336I’m not sure I believe that ethics are the real reason the plug got pulled. I mean, from the beginning they planned on growing and harvesting these creatures. Not super ethical. I feel like they’re politicking around the real reason behind the project being abandoned.
I honestly be okay with chimera research being done. We all say now that it is "research from hell" or that it is "demonic" but when the time comes, we all be glad that chimera research was done.
You should not destroy or torture other animals even if they don't have human cells in them. Just leave the animals alone, please.
It would be very interesting to let the embryos grow after 20 days.
They will look like you and your family.
Im pretty sure some country has already done that, just hidden from the media
@@Ken8193 I agree with you for all we know there may be too secret experiments with fully developed versions of these embryos.
They have been for decades.
@@Ken8193 im 100% certain Japan, US, china and Israel already did this. If anyone who would do it, its them.
Scientists will end up creating something they didn't know about and then the "Fun" begins
Like covid right?
Alex Jones was speaking about organ harvesting from a animal human hybrid years ago. Its done to not raise ethical questions about organ harvesting.
You really think they care about ethics if they wanted do it? They'd just do it under the table.
They've already been doing it under the table for years, I can only imagine the monsters they've already created. Sick sick world we live in where scientists are now our gods, or maybe our demons.
@@Thyalwaysseek give me a few links of some of these under the table creatures ?
@@ali1278 You are obviously ignorant to what under the table means.
@@Thyalwaysseek are you stupid ? i know what it means, im asking you for references, ? do you not understand a simple question ?
@@ali1278 Stop being a moron.
Just remember guys, sociopaths and psychopaths never get into positions where they can influence the cutting edge of science. 🤔
That SHOULDN'T MATTER.... What's RIGHT and WRONG DOES!
Marian Lincoln are you ok?
What matters in science is the science, not the psychiatric and psychological makeup of the scientist.
@@marianlincoln9008 there's no such thing as right or wrong. You must not understand reality.
@@smokejaguar67 Are you kidding? Of course the mental health of a scientist is important, our governments have given these people an immense amount of power and control over us and the fact is most of them are psychopaths with a god complex.
I don't see anything wrong. At most, the hybrid of a human grown on a monkey embryo will develop into an individual as intelligent as Boris Johnson.
I’m not at all against this. It may be scary but every scientific advancement took risks, this is no exception
@Poseidon moral understanding is based on objective truth. But if someone embraces the philosophy of perspective truth then they have no foundation to place moral reasonings. And that is a problem.
I’m hearing Human Chimera rights in from the future.
And I'm hearing they get discriminated and it's too many people so let's depopulate the world and give them space to live that they deserve
@@perro_8688 all-right I like were this is going. let’s start with you and keep it moving from there.
@@pop-shot-rico6 lol
No debate, they couldnt possibly be dumber than us.
Fun fact: This is actually how I was born
“Human dies, ape get smart”
I watched Hunter X Hunter those “Chimera” ants were crazy.
Watch full metal alchemist, the chimeras will break you heart.
Hunter X Hunter Chimeras gave me nightmares, I hated the cat one at the end and I love cats.
Yoooo. U right. This is just the beginning.
How bout watch planet of the apes or jurassic park instead? Actual content with scientific relevance. Not some shitty anime
@@Doom_Squid_Son Also we're talking human-animal hybrids or "chimeras" here. Caesars and the apes intelligence was boosted from inhaling a gas. It doesn't really focus on genetic hybrids that's different. Also the Jurassic Park movies were mostly about extracting dinosaur DNA from the blood extracted from mosquitos preserved in the ground. They aren't really cross breeding human and animal cells to get their result, even though they did use some animal cells and stuff. The chimera's are genetically modified with human DNA that's the main difference to be more closer to humans and human like intelligence.
It should be stopped
Confusion of the highest order
I really think some of these ethical restrictions is inhibiting progress of science.
The more human neurons in a brain the more human cognitive functions that brain can perform.
Cool
@electricity from the planet of the apes
@ismail Cem Eroglu 🗿
Government and science: The Human monkey! People : Did we ask?
It's been going on for YEARS, scientists clearly need help with there mindset
You need help with your backward thinking
@@somerandomperson3970 And his spelling
This is the only way to evolve, it may sound cruel, and heartless but that’s how everything evolves, we committed cruel acts in the past when we were unaware of “it”, now we’re using words like “ethical, morally wrong or right, etc...”.
I low-key want to see a human monkey hybrid to see how intelligent it is, how strong it is, can it communicate with monkey or humans or both.
@@ezicarus8216 link?
Same here
At this point I see no advantage to this. We can already grow organs with stem cells. Creating hybrids like this I am very uncomfortable with. I can only see a negative result. That it is already going ahead before there has been legislation made on this is also wrong.
Knowing just how strong apes are makes this a very worrying thing
Why are people against this?
That puts me in mind of a series called ''Chimera''...didn't end well!!
I rember chimera how mad
I don't really see how it would not end well. I see the unethical part of it but not the danger. What do you mean by didn't end well? Chimeras will become human-eating monsters rampaging on cities pushing humanity to the brink of extinction? on what grounds do you believe this sir? what if they just turned out to be harmless domesticated creature?
@@terminusadquem6981 You’re ok with domestication? You are disgusting
@@robert2690 I'm not like you who judged on the basis and solely on how it looks or it appears to be rather what it truly is. You are a close minded type of person and that is far more disgusting than anything else. 🤮
Remeber, Alex Jones already talked about this human-chimera-hybrid years ago. People called him crazy until you see news like this in the BBC.
As well as Epstein's sex islands
@DawnWatch and you’re a sheep regurgitating things you’ve heard or seen other people say/do
@DawnWatch he's not wrong alot of what alex has said has come to pass
@DawnWatch lmao, let me guess do you think nothing happened in Tiananmen square and Epstein killed himself. Don't worry it's just a conspiracy theory bro, trust me the government said so.
Scientific research will always have ethical issues by people who don't want development
So during the 19 day research what cause them to destroy or abandon the research?we would like to better understand the importance of why and also what research was gathered? What exactly were they looking for within the research of this laboratory?
Harvesting living beings for their organs is usually reserved for Sci-fi flicks and its the alien baddies who do it. Yet in the real world we do it without even caring and think of ourselves as noble creatures. We're indeed the baddies Hans.
If you want to spare the world for a couple of years this should be stopped.
this is not going to "end the world", this will never affect you. calm down
@@samcousins3204It's unethical to mess with Human embryo because even one sample go out in public and multiply it will affect the gene pool of the future generation.
@@jhondumaop1311 ... did you watch the video??? they're messing with monkey embryos in a lab. Also, the hypothetical you propose would only happen if this "messed up human embryo" *grew into a functioning human and had a child*. that's not at all what they're doing.
@@samcousins3204 the point is for it to affect us but in a good way
@Joe Xavier well It will be a just one so bring it on im sick of these people that think they are still human worthy
Alex Jones warned about this years ago
The aim is hybrids, not some other excuse. I suspect such research doesn't require making chimeras.
What could go wrong?
Hopefully nothing
Death and or extinction of a new species. War. Revolution. Extinction of humans. Mass murder. Destruction of cities and nature. Biological warfare that may end in nuclear warfare which would end the world. Black market selling of human hybrids. Buying human hybrids and slavery of them. Trafficking of human hybrids. Human hybrids becoming superior to us and using us as pets and or food.
If the end goal is to create real life cat girls then there's no problem
As long as something suits the powerful it will never be deemed unethical
The sick people considering this atrocity do so to their financial benefit.
It's more like, how to create a more deadly biological weapon and how it should be used.
Why does this remind of the Nazi Dr Josef Mengele's horrific experiments ?
Nah... They creating the way to Demihumans!!!
Why bio weapons when you can have nukes lmao
@@oscarmedinajuarez396 nukes are too... Flashy... I'd say ... They're to obvious. If one goes of everyone knows who did it, and it's too messy, whereas biological weapons can save infistructure and money, while allowing your army to be immune where the opisisional army isn't allowing for total victory, without mega destruction saveing time and money.
@@oscarmedinajuarez396 in short, tacticly, and money wise, bio weapans are better, as with bio weapans, all you need is like 100 bucks or less to implement it. Total cost of everything combined with bio weapans I would estimate for equipment reaserch and implementation, 25,000 bucks. If that. Probably way less. And it's more convenient, covert, and your side can be completely immune
What ever maybe the ethical issue is or the impact of such things,we must understand the benefits too. If we could find an alternate solution for organ transplant such as liver cells regeneration this would be considered a tremendous achievement.
Agreed.
True, if we look at the benefit, it will outweight the harm tremendously.
There is an alternative, everyone’s organs will be used for transplants at death unless they choose to opt out.
It's baffling how utterly stupid majority of social media users are. Yes it might unethical in certain instances, but everything regarding research and development are branded as evil, wrong and conspiracy to control humans etc. Research, experiments, developments and innovations are important for us as a species, and important for our future and the future of our planet! If technology is to stay how it is currently, life on earth could be a huge struggle within a million or even a couple thousand years.
Next up will be fish ,so we can have mermaids
This sounds exactly how we would be created 😂😂
So yall making Kong? Already got Godzilla in south america ready eh?
Well, yes, except it's *Doney* Kong :D
How’s the progress? Can we check up on that?
This reminds me of watching a movie but I'm reminded that we are living in the end time....
*_Fullmetal Alchemist_** Chimera would like to know your location.*
It's no wonder we have pandemics like Corona only God knows.what this will bring about. May God have mercy on humanity 🥺
🙏
Yep. The ppl who worked on this were / are insane.
yhh no that's not how that works
@@joshuanadeem8898 how?
Wait, wait, what if God was tryna kill us all off way before we destroy ourselves....
Some lines should never be crossed.
Why can’t humans just leave some stuff alone. This all seems very wrong.
This is So Wrong in So Many LEVELS. THINK before messing up the security of our world and humanity. Even for positive gains, you in the end are making more sufferings.
We only know a fraction of the genetic freak show the have hidden away ,stuff we will only know about if it escapes.
This is completely unethical and horrific
Why isn't anyone stopping this?
How many times in the interview did the "ethicist" refer to the literature or the studies vs. the times she used the pronoun "I"?
I am standing at the street with my loaded shotgun. Zombies are coming
@@eyee3550 wtf iron and clay have to do with zombies? Do they eat iron too?
Fascinating!
Now that it's on BBC I guess we won't say this is a silly conspiracy theory?
So, will it develop into a "Monman" or "Hukey". :D
Mankey
@@junglebrov :D
@@Mr-my5ji I'm offended on behalf of the Mankeys that do not yet exist.
Human+animal embryo: We can't say for sure if it would be unethical to use it in experiments Full human embryo: Vacuum go bruuvmvmvmvm
Animal planet would be asking us the question what the hell is that thing is
We already suffered a lot in 2020 & 2021, Please no more uncertain experiments.