No Limit: Chicago's Deadliest Gang
Watch the uncut version of this video on Patreon - / traploreross
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
4:05 The Black P. Stones
14:33 Terror Town
17:58 The Members of No Limit
21:15 Lakeside/ KTS
23:10 The Muskegon Boys
24:47 Pocket Town
26:37 BlackMobb
31:42 The Killing of Fazo and Zael
34:23 The Murder of Roc
40:26 Bibby and Herbo Start Rapping
42:44 The McDonalds Incident
59:07 The Murders of Bud, Lolo and Fearro
1:06:13 Terror Town's Deadly Summer of 2013
1:11:55 The Murder of Kobe
1:16:56 The Murder of Posto
1:21:02 Bibby Goes Commercial, Herbo Goes Street
1:27:38 The Murder of KTS Von
1:35:22 Herbo Goes Commercial
1:39:29 The Murder of Shootashellz
1:56:17 How Lil Wet Beat 4 Bodies
2:05:06 The Murder of MadMaxx
2:12:05 The Death of JuiceWrld
2:19:44 PTSD - The Hard Life of G Herbo
2:30:22 The Murder of KTS Dre
2:48:11 The Murder of Lil Greg
2:54:40 The Kyro Interview
3:04:24 Outro
I saw this, saw the length, and legit said to myself “No. We will save this for the proper sit and listen.” And that’s the power this man’s documentaries have lol
Titles like this are extremely dangerous and disgusting and insidious. This is why white people like this shouldn't be associated with our culture because this is actually a defamation of character lawsuit off this title alone. As he doesn't live in America so he pillages from Black American culture to mearly paint evil images. Now where is his videos exposing law enforcement in America? Exposing the US government? Where was his 3 hour video involving the George Floyd execution since things are such based on Black American violence? He's not even in America telling us what record label is the most deadly gang definitively and its beyond disgusting and racist. He has zero words for gangs in law enforcement here in America but he's making these films to have Black artists get indicted. Why do I even have to say this? It's right in front of ya'll faces. I repeat he's done no videos about the evil and gangs in law enforcement in America because all these films he makes is all energy to indict Black artists for the police.... as someone who doesn't even live on America. Where is all this might and energy to talk about the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys? This is all insidious racist tactics and he hates it when I call him out on this because everyone agrees its just the God honest truth.
I did the exact same
Soon as I saw him talk about the the P stones I said. “Oop,this has to be given attention”
bro i literally waited a day till now so i could have some nice food as i watched 😭
Always when it come to Ross videos 💪🏼
The fact these young men and teenagers are putting out all this information about their illegal activities...so much information that a journalist/blogger/researcher is able to produce a 3 hr documentary is crazy to me.
I feel the same exact way! He should do a documentary on the people in jail because of the internet!
A lot of this information is out there for anyone to research I think after looking it all up he put together quite a good documentary I’m from England myself I find all this drill and gang stuff very interesting but also quite sad because most of them who get killed are really young, if only they had lived five or so more years they might have grown out of this street gang life and settled down, even when some of them make it big in the music industry they end up getting killed and that’s even worse, look at Von for instance he could have gone to the top but he couldn’t leave the street life behind him. Anyway great video as usual Ross keep them coming.
Imagine what the cops already got
Being a police officer working on gang unit must be the easiest thing in the world, these guys shoot an opp then post about it on twitter then say whose snitching when they get arrested
And they beat a lot of these cases too which is crazy
Lil Wet avenging his father's death and evading 4 Murder charges is unbelievable. This whole documentary is the stuff of legend itself...
And already faced 2 murder charges prior
This shit is bullshit ...a TRU GANGSTA try looking up Harriet Tubman
Word on the streets is, Lil Wet didn’t do it BUT IDK AND DONT CARE.
@@greedyebk7146he didn’t. Well at least not all 4
wait til you meet ur maker & have to explain to him why you found stuff like this legendary
It's really crazy how all of this unfolds like it's a movie despite the fact that this is real life... It's as if death means nothing to these guys, it's a right of passage for the lifestyle that they choose to partake in.
I live here and it’s like it’s the battle of who got the most F’d up stories. It’s mfs here who will knock up a female, just to have a Bm they can complain about. It’s crazy asf.
Death mean everything to them. It’s mostly retaliation. And “I gotta get them before they get me.” It is sad to see those!
It’s scary that human lives mean so little to them.
Bro the workers at that McDonald’s need therapy
I'm dead😂😂😂😂
I'm saying to think the were making like 6 bucks an hour
@@MyzoryMaiqMcDonald's needs protection and increase wages when live in such gang riddled places
😭😭😭😭
Why is Harry Potter soo up on Chicago rap n gang violence?
This whole war between them is like a movie. Getting outside jail and shot 64 times? The top killer snitching on his death bed? Even the fact that death is so common, a random bystander placed a sheet over a body on the street without even calling the police. Everything seems so crazy.
I'm torn on if it was snitching when he was so drugged up... Did he know who he was talking to or understand what he was doing at the time? I have a feeling the deathbed confession wouldn't hold that strong in court due to the drugs and how messed up he was. But I don't know.
In India a guy was on trial for 19 MURDERS and his opps DRESSED AS LAWYERS AND SHOT HIM DEAD IN COURT u can look it up there’s crazy shit around the whole world
@@catasrophieGrrl nigga what? 😂 that don’t mean nun. He snitched period.
@@catasrophieGrrl you can’t use a confession from a dead guy as evidence, and confessions alone aren’t admissible for prosecution in court
@@catasrophieGrrl Stop Making Excuses For That Rat He Told The Police The Dude Whole Name He Said Rell Rell Shot Him Shit Ain't Got Nun To Do With Drugs If He Was That High He Wouldn't Even Know What Happened The Paperwork Already Out Black N White Don't Lie
I'm from Scotland, and the last time we had anything even close to this level violence was before the 2000's in a place called the Gorbals. To me, I never actually had an idea of what gang life could even be like, so this video was really enlightening to me (and sobering to the reality instead of played up media representations). Praying for some social reform and rebuilding of the worse parts of Chicago, no-one should be born into a life like this.
I studied in Scotland, Strathclyde, precisely. I didn't experience gang tussle but could see guys forming a gang in the city center, making noise while cops are on alert. My days in Glasgow were peaceful.
What happened in the gorbals in the 2000s???
@@janvernel5569 just lots of gang related violence. illegal firearms were used and LOTS of stabbings. nothing near what happens in chicago
Bro said praying for social reform😂😂😂😂 This shit ain't never gonna stop and no amount of social reform will ever be the reason it does stop if it were to somehow actually end😂😂😂😂 you heard what he said some of these gangs have been around since the 1950s 😨😱 that's 70+ yrs of gang banging bro. It slowed down a little bit in the early 2000s but got worse again in the 2010s until now and it's showing no signs of peace occuring anytime soon
Last time Scotland had that level of violence, England was an enemy! 😂
As a complete outsider to these stories, I really appreciate these kinds of 4-hour deep dive videos explaining things as unbiased and objective as possible.
My heart breaks for Kyro...he said he doesn't want to be in the streets..he says the old heads put him on. Shame on these older people for preying on these young kids and teaching them this hard street life. That is evil.
No cap they down bad for that
Its not so black and white. Kyro literally said that he told the lil homies they don't have to participate in the streets shit. And they still sitting right next to him gang banging. They institutionalized bro
@@SoloSammyU9 It's how it go doe, they feel like they need soldiers because they getting tired of the war but they don't ever wanna let up so they pass it down to the young niggas to inherit. Contrary to what alotta niggas think, it's just certain places where some niggas don't have a chance straight from birth. It's generations of kids being wired to hate and destroy people who could've damn near been like family to them if they was born 5 minutes down the street.
Some moron from another comments section was trying to use the same argument as Foolio "oh they're old enough to know what they're doing" and ignoring this sick predatory behavior
I'm sure he can afford a bus ticket
It’s wild because I was living in Chicago 2008-2012 and left because the violence got to be too much. Talking about 40+ shootings every weekend - no one was safe. Here I am 10-years later learning the story behind the violence thanks to Trap Lore Ross.
I’m 43 and was working and partying in Chicago and Suburbs didn’t realize this was going on till my nephew told me me about Keef
@Domo but what about northside?
Facts bruh dat shi crazy the mfs living in it don’t even kno what goin on but mfs in England can make a whole 3 hour doc about it😭😭🤣
same. grew up and lived in champaign just 2 hours south of chicago. a lot of members go there to hang out and lay low from the city, 600 breezy being one of the more popular guys people see pretty frequently. crazy that this stuff was happening relatively close but never made headlines until far after chief keef took off.
@@RocThaDon Ross out here knowing more about Chicago than people from Chicago lmao
Your documentaries are very in depth and informative... You leave no stone unturned... Keep up the great work and God Bless.!
I knew who to look for when i wanted to learn about this topic. Trap lore ross. Great information, documentary style videos and honest non-biased info.. salute ross.
At the end of the day when you look deep in those conflicts, you discover that they are killing each other over nothing
They are the same person on each side. They are literally killing themselves. It’s really sad.
literally just said this... meanwhile everybody in the comments just talking about how great the content was and fanned out from the music smh
You don’t even have to look deep. None of them own the property they’re dying over. It’s right on the surface. I’m not dying over some place I pay rent at
@@rarebreed4512 No one told them to do this. If they don’t want their lives to be content, they shouldn’t post it all
It was money at first then revenge killings so I wouldn’t say it’s over nothing…that’s disrespectful
man has blessed us with a 3 hours documentary .. we appreciate you homie
Just realized it was 3 hours. 😭🤣 still watch tho
3 hours of bullshit lol. This nigga don't be getting none of the info right... and be getting paid for it lol
@@MichelleM15 Only 1.5h on 2 times speed
Gah damnit Ross 3hrs. This shiii longer than the Green Mile🤯 keep going G 🫡
CS88 already covered this thoooo idk if I want to hear the trap Lore Ross version as I’m sure it covers just as much as CS88 both are good journalist
I just listen to this video and it blew my mind. You do incredible documentaries and im glad i found this channel
bro no cap your content has taken like 5 steps up every year, keep up the hard work
“Killing a man who wouldn’t share his blunt” is insane
Another one killed another kid for his shoes 😞😞😞
That’s mind boggling, if that’s the case you can have my blunt all set
😂😂
Yeah but it is rude to not let a homie get a puff.
Have a pretty interesting story about the stones from a long time ago. Back in the 60s my great grandma, a white Jewish woman, ran a liquor store around 67th and Stoney Island in Woodlawn. Her store would be frequented by the local Blackstone Rangers and from what I heard she actually had a good relationship with them. During her time running the store no one ever robbed her or hassled her for protection money. There were times that gang members would actually politely ask her for paper bags, which they would end up using when robbing neighboring stores lol. The crazy part of this story was after the MLK riots in Chicago, rioters broke her store's windows, and because the stones thought so highly of her they actually helped her fix her windows. Its pretty crazy how much different things are nowadays, but I think its important for people to learn about why things have gotten so bad. In order to find a solution.
Cool story bro, but what’s the point? You neither raised any question nor answered any. What did your last paragraph have to do with the preceding? 🤷🏽♂️
I only see media pushing hate.. Every single person I meet be it, White,Black,Latino,Asian,Middle Eastern,Indian ect. all could care less what color I am. As long as I honor whatever our agreement is, we're good. Pretty sure that's the majority of the world. My Aunt was a hippie, white, pharmacist's daughter who was protected by the Black Panthers on Hate and Ashbury back in the G.. She believed in what they were doing and worked closely to help.(I believe she was studying Law) In turn they protected her heavily, and her Dad's pharmacy while Escorting her around San Fran. She said she felt like a Boss with those dudes by her side. She tells some wild stories of those days..
@@LikeSpee are you uneducated it clearly highlights the differences in gang activity from then till now
@@LikeSpee its a youtube comment section dawg its not that deep 💀💀
@@won2600 you right, it’s a comment section. I made a comment.
I’m layed up after surgery watching Ross documentaries.. keep up the good work man. Love it
One thing people don’t realize is that herb didn’t just get money and leave his homies behind, he got that money by profiting of of the tragedies and traumas that those people went through. Every bar he spit ignited the flames. If it weren’t for the rap shit there wouldn’t be half as many killings.
PRECISELY!!!
Say it!!!! And I’m glad you did
How you figure? Most of that shit was going on way before he was even around. He just started rapping about. Just like all these dudes blame Durk and chief keef like they people wasn't already beefing before that. If the lil dudes kicked all this shit off why was so many older guys involved and getting hit? Pay attention. I'm from Chicago and I be all through the city. Born and raised, if you know you know and if you smart you know how to move and know who to stay away from and what to stay out of.
What are you talking about….before they taunted each other in music…they did it on social media…most these guys are not rappers….those killings on both sides were happening way before herbo started rapping….the taunts that really pissed off no limit from the kts members weren’t what they said in raps…those guys were weak rappers could barely write a diss song….the disrespect came in the form of tweets….herbo barely scratches the surface in his songs…besides posto he doesn’t even mention the dead opps that much in terms of specific names…he mostly talks about who he lost on his side….all the disrespect in on twitter not in g herbo’s music lol same thing with people like king von you wanna know about his street stuff you’ll learn more from his twitter posts..multiple back & forth with K.I until her death etc in his songs it’s only surface level…& it’s mixed with fantasy…all those stories von rapped are not real it’s inspired by events but the stories overall aren’t real….not saying Herbo is like a saint but compare actual drill music that was made to diss the oops compared to g herbo’s music which is mostly about himself…what he went through…& what he saw….losing his homies etc he only mentions posto by name in a similar way chief keef was “smoking on tooka” but chief keef’s music was about being catchy & cool….it wasn’t about dissing the opps…did chief keef doing that help ? No…does g herbo smoking posto help with the violence no ? But to act like he’s fueling the fire is exaggerating because he barely raps about the opps & when he does it’s vague just like any rapper would…..the opps are upset because Herbo claims NLMB in his tracks so the opps are just jealous seeing their “opp” going on tour , wearing jewelry etc that’s not herb’s fault he didn’t directly taunt them it’s been a couple projects since herbo said posto….those revenge killings been happening since before twitter,Facebook etc it just got worse because with internet it’s easier to track someone down…you said herbo profited off other people’s pain as if those guys that lost their lives RIP weren’t his homies as well people he hung out with…who are you to say that ? Herbo knew these people & unless the family asks herbo not to rap about that person then he’s allowed to….it’s either that or he would’ve been another statistic…try to take revenge & end up in jail or dead but he chose to put in his pain into art & you’re judging the art because it’s not all sunshine & rainbows
You just saw a video that shows you this gang shit in Chicago started way before anyone rapped about it….& you blame the only guys that are trying to make a difference….Herbo could’ve been in the streets but he chose to rap….he doesn’t even diss the opps in his songs (his albums 25 & PTSD) are about himself & all the homies he lost in the street….most of his songs feel like he’s talking to a therapist explaining what he went through , what’s on his mind , his struggles with being a leader not only for his homies but his family & his community…his struggles with letting go of his old ways of being a block nigga, the struggles of having money now everyone wants a piece…you say yes every time you say no once & people forget every time you said yes….the ptsd he got from losing all these homies at a young age…and the guys he lost themselves being young when they got killed…just street motivation to keep going etc that’s what I get from Herbo’s music….not drill music dissing the opps lol even early herbo still did more then diss the opps he was always a great storyteller..great at painting a picture , he always had bars punchlines etc he was always a real artist not some gang member using music to diss his opps…idk when was the last time you heard herbo’s music but I feel like you judged him way too fast without giving him a chance just because of his gang affiliation
Getting paid a $1 to kill someone is the wildest shit ever
It's the truth, I'm from Chicago Illinois
Put that murder on lay away
Wtf,people are dumb,a $ for all that jail time,they might as well just kill themselves and be done. That sh!ts not wild it's SAD + DESPERATE AF
$1 back then is about $5 now, still crazy though
Not necessarily. I've seen hood niccas bout to go to war over $3. Mofos will kill someone for stepping on their Jordans. Or sleeping with their baby momma. Doesn't take much at all to have someone killed in the hood.
The way you structure these videos is insane. You’re able to captivate people that have no prior knowledge on the situation. You see the title “The Murder Of KTS Von” at 1:28:18 and go “oh shit” because you recognize how crazy that is. You’re able to stress the importance of the people in these situations and the severity of their deaths so well. A masterclass in documentaries.
I completely agree. I’m talking to my friends trying to explain the significance of KTS von, posto, madmaxx and ashellz and they don’t get it
Except he makes a documentary about GANGS, and when someone is shot he calls it GUN violence instead of the obvious....GANG VIOLENCE. That's irritating
@@alexb7641 yeah. That bothers me too. That’s media programming. It’s always the guns fault…
@@alexb7641 shut the hell up its gun violence regardless some people murdered aren't in gangs just in the wrong place at the wrong time so he can use gang violence and gun violence interchangeably.
@@violetsrayreikishop2 Yeah do you ever use the term knife violence?
Trap Lore Ross, keep up what you're doing. Fascinating documentaries. Well done.
Ross. Every video of yours I've seen you've had different styled hair and I must say you pull em ALL off wonderfully!
Glad you're back Ross I almost had the FBI missing persons looking for you and thanks for what I'm gonna assume is another great video.
He be grinding
Ross is the FBI
Same
@@YungAtz almost had to call his higher ups and see why he not at work 🤣
He Was Gonna Look For Himself? 🫣😂 Jk Jk 😆😂
I want you guys to realize how overlooked the issue is of the navy seals selling weapons to the gang members from Kentucky. This is an extremely overlooked detail. And as sad as it is, it happens a lot more then people think. It’s so easy to get a gun in low income areas it’s insane. I really wish people would stop killing each other but it feels like outside people will always fuel this kind of violence. It’s at 2:51:33
yeah let's pass the buck
This happens all the time in high crime places i grew up in Camden and the feds would tell us when the trains would be coming through how you think all these guns get in the hood they want us to continue to kill each other smh
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat I guess you don't mind armed forces behaving in such a manner? But you've been trolling up and down the comments so I shouldn't engage
Trains full of weapons, courtesy of fbi and cia
If somebody wants a gun, they are going to get a gun bro. Navy seals selling weapons 100% doesn’t change the fact people have always been able to find firearms.
Great Job dude this was well informed and now it all make sense now on the high number of shootings in Chicago.
I absolutely love the way you tell it like it is, you never pull any punches, we need more people like you telling the truth, there is nothing more refreshing, I'm so sick and tired of most people twisting and mincing the words, the public needs to know what is truly going on, stay safe and stay salty.
This took me 2 days to finish watching it's such a fantastic piece ! The research, the storytelling, the total unbiased and respectful perspective that neither glorifies not villainizes all the people involved... some of your best work by far !
@@davile4596 lmao ok it took me the evening of the 23rd and most of the 24th my bad, thank you for keeping us safe from caps in the youtube comments you're a hero 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Bro I've been watching bit by bit since it came out, and I still have about an hour to go lol
Play back speed at 1.5x
Man i grew up around these lil nikkas and i don't even have 3 hours worth of dialogue about them lbs
@@kingbucketz182 😭😭
Its a literal wonder how your content is free. I can only imagine how much work it was for the research, synthesis, script writing, recording, EDITING, AND THEN re-rendering this behemoth several times to get that monetization. Thanks for everything, Ross
It not he got these on Patreon first
@@TimeToGoo as he should these videos probably take a week + to complete
@@kota6636 didn't say he shouldn't was letting dude know they uncut on the Patreon
Bc he gets paid multiple ways einstein he’s said why he post on here 🤦🏽♂️🤣 he’d lose lots of dinero if he solely posted on patreon
@@TimeToGoo I know they’re uncut on Patreon, but he still had to censor stuff on KZhead to put it up here for us without a paywall, and trying to not trigger demonitization is difficult, especially with KZhead not giving a list of the trigger words
top tier research, editing and presentation. mans putting TV documentaries to shame
We was following this shit back on twitter back in the day all the way in Jamaica fam….glad this man stamped it and talked bout the history
Them no limit boys had an emo boy like juice wrd droping rakes, swearing on gang and holding drugs for em was crazy
Over 3hrs, hit the f****n like Button🔥
What's up 1090 jake you legend. I cant wait till both you and TLR hit 1 mil 🐐🐐🙌🏼🙌🏼
hmmm bo😊i😊onn
Lol I don't got 3hrs straight in a day it took took me 3 days to finish this...
Vultures! 💯
Chicago scene 88 and you need to link up
I am so incredibly intrigued by this. Those music videos have so many views yet I've never heard of a single one of them before. And how much information there is available over instagram, how many life streams they're doing, how much of this is recorded. Feels like a whole other world, yet this is real
That's an amazing piece of work I can't imagine the time that you spent. Big respect
There is No Way a Streaming Network or T.V. Network shouldn't be in touch with you about your skills... ALWAYS ON POINT
Riiight like how this mofo from across the seas get everything on point?? Wtf he does a good job doing his homework!! I’m from the Chi and know most of this but he knows a lil too much like naurdwar
They can’t afford him 😂
They’d ruin his creativity
@@bigband32yg49 He’s already under contract with the District Attorneys office… No? YSL? YFN? 🤔
Trap Lore Ross always does an incredible job of combining my favorite topics- Hip Hop, True Crime, detailed documentaries and morbid stories of violence and murders. And its crazy that I can just watch this for free! Thank you for the consistency and high quality content
You can watch it a day earlier on his patreon
@@brianalaundrie6192 thats crazy
@@Edmeister 😂
I always feel guilty we get all this for free lol so had to do the patreon . Can’t fathom the amount of work that goes into this
He does an AMAZING job putting together research that I’m sure the FBI are just so appreciative for … this is great info for the FEDS! Great job Trap Lore … now the Feds can use this
All your videos are captivating. I'm a fan 4 sure.❤
Amazing commentary this deserves an award on how this was highlighted smh!
As a law student the thing that sticks out to me most is a failure by the prosecutors to hold anyone accountable for their crimes despite the evidence against them.
No face no case. Not saying it's an excuse for all of them, but proving something in court is a lot harder than you'd think. The defense just needs to prove doubt. The just system is twisted. You'll learn soon enough! Congrats on the career choice btw!
@@sneedly3355plus they intimidate or even kill witnesses, and a lot of times they need a witness to corroborate these homicides
They are blck ...no one cares as long as they keep that violence in the hood. Swift action will be taken soon as yt folk start to feel unsafe
There's not enough evidence for prosecution
They don’t care. You have to care enough to want to bring justice and heal/rebuild a community…
It’s so sad to see a whole generation of young black men making funerals home booming like that 🤦🏽♂️🙏🏽
It really is sad I'll say it again black people street politics are deadly I'll reather go to work and keep my freedom and my life
That's a great idea. Start up a ghetto funeral home, gold caskets like Fenty Floyd, Hennessy, fried chicken and KoolAid
b_@cK people should be proud of themselves Raising fine pos I work in a situation where I see who they only problem children are every single day. The same POS worthless trouble making punk kids that their parents are even worse and blame everyone else when their POS Cause more trouble
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat You're a sad, strange little man
Sad af , can’t even imagine losing that many people aroun me.
Really getting into these videos lately you bring all the facts
Your documentaries be so good👌🏾
Your ability to tell these stories and break them down in chronological order. Is second to none it’s amazing how you’ve carved you’re own Lane in the game and a unique spot
He definitely does an amazing job while still being respectful to the people involved. You can’t do nothing but respect it. Amazing documentaries and each one gets better. 👏🏾
@@preciouscassandra5264 yup tru
by covering losers?
@@rydz656 losers? Are they great people? Absolutely not but what can you expect of kids who grew up in a highly dangerous environment? It's real easy to judge when you never went through some shit like that but I guess you can talk reckless on the internet. That's all people like you can do. Have a good day.
@@revxl722 They all dies needlessly, like peasants. Losers.
What impresses me the most about your videos are the sincere messages you add to the end of your videos man. Don't get me wrong the structure, attention to detail, and research are top notch but without a MESSAGE its nothing. People can say you're profiting off of pain but bringing things to light is the first step in creating change. Keep up the good work bro, you have a new fan from Bmore..
@TipstersClit agreed
In a way, by recording the history and memorializing the dead, he’s kind of doing a service to them. At least they will be remembered somewhere.
@@strangerdanger4167to be honest some of them don't deserve to be remembered.. when you inflict death and destruction amongst your own people.. you get what you get
I agree and man f Those who say hes doing it for profit or some , ofc he wants a bit for 3h, imagine hiw much work there is behind, prob like weeks, and u clearly can feel what u just said about this dude, aint no newschannel these mf dont care bit this dude deserves every lil he gets from this
410 23:27 eastside
Yet another banger, I get insomnia and I swear I have been watching your docs for the last 36 hours pretty much non stop. It's not just they're well made, it's the empathy you tell the stories with without ever taking sides yet genuinely wondering just what is the point of so much death over so little. Anyway mad respect for your work.
I hope you got some sleep, friend
@@TheChicagoJunkie I was up for 5 days straight my friend but I finally got some decent sleep on the 6th day. I am not making assumptions but I hope your tag is not current. I have been there myself but I am clean now, there's definitely been a few mis-steps along the way though but I wouldn't wish that life on my worst enemy so I hope life is good for you. All the best from Glasgow, Scotland.
@@stevemac6707 Oh no! It's meant to be hopefull whenever I start making content, but I've been clean from fent/crack/pills for over a year now. Glad you got some sleep, hope you continue to have rest!
@@TheChicagoJunkie Yeah I had an idea it might be the case but I just wanted to check. As I said I had big issues but mainly with heroin although some crack also, glad those days are behind me also. Same to yourself mate, all the best. Rest easy.
48:19 thanks for the subtitles and insight on the lingo (a truly top-tier documentary!)
I always thought it was weird of JuiceWrld to start dissing dead opps. Nothing wrong with having friends in gangs, but to go disrespect peoples families and diss dead people just didn’t sit right with me.
He thought it was cool Smh I doubt they was even his real opps
was and still is super cringe seein that weird ass shit..
Same. Reminded me of what happened to Pac. PAC was never a gangster, then he started hanging with Death Row and all the sudden he's the biggest gangbanger ever. And that's exactly what got him killed. Talk to any REAL OG, they'll tell you this shit ain't cool.
foreal he was just a wannabe, juice is a nerd he's not about the street shit
What’s even crazier is him swearing on Vito abd ge didn’t even know him .. even crazier they let him do it
All this was going on under my nose...raised 7 children in the midst of all this. I even know some of these young men as my childrens classmates. Saw Herbo n Bibby learning how to make music @ CYC (Chicago Youth Center). I learned more from this than being right there.
Capp den
How many of your children are in prison? If none are. How did you do it?
my granny used to live on 78th & kingston during 2011 - 2019 so i basically grew up around this area and familiar with everything over here, i ain't know who herb was til i got cause i was a shorty
@@truthtorpedo4068 How many of your relatives are in prison? If none are, how did they do it?
@@truthtorpedo4068 that’s the dumbest question ever
NGL this is one of the best documentaries I ever watched you being from across the world let’s me know you put in work on the research side whether all of this is true or not definitely earned a sub & like you
The best fckn docs around on these wars have been watching you a while and I watch every doc as soon as they drop I love all the work you do tlr keep that grind going I’ll always love your videos too 🫵👌
Little known fact. Dr Livinston Johnson, a black doctor from Mississippi coined the name Black Pea Stones. Though when he came up with the name it wasn’t for the name of the Chicago gang. As his only patients were African American he noticed an epidemic of his male patients having tremendous pain when urinating until within a matter of days, he noticed they would eventually excrete tiny little stones through their urine. He originally named them Black Pee Stones, until a few years later a white doctor stole his findings and renamed them Kidney Stones.
This is honestly amazing! It's like having a compilation of 25 videos in order (6+ months and more worth lol). Each one leading into the next. The amount of work you put in for a KZhead video is just insane. Thank you for the work because this is honestly better than TV/Netflix level for a documentary/docu-series cause that's basically what it is. But better.
Yeah the 🍆🥷🏿🚴🏿 is crazy
Man , these 3 to 4 hr. documentaries you come up with are Masterpieces.
As a Chicago native this is sad as hell! I love our city so much but there is so much bloodshed and pain here smh… I’m happy Herbo and Bibby got out. Kyro needs to follow suit. It really isn’t worth it at all. If only all those who lost their lives years ago could see how senseless this shit is and how foolish they look banging smh RIP 🙏🏾thanks for the doc it was very well done!
What does smh stand for
@@craigfinley2507 it means shaking my head ☺️
At this point kyro safe all his opps dead rich or in jail
@@SuperChatsRNotTips true lol I hope he moves on from this life
I grew up in the era of GDs vs these stones. This dude did some research. I remember when the no limit moes was first hitting. The original stones didnt want anything to do with them. Didnt even interfere when there was war between no limit stones and the GDs. I'm not sure about these herbo no limit cats but this was way before them. They were toddlers at this point.
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The closing/tearing down all of the Chicago CHA project buildings and relocating all of them throughout the city/suburbs created all of this bs.
Bro facts...in the early 2000's the moes from moe town put out a SOS on TT moes for letting them maniac moes operate in the town
@@spankbuda7466 facts facts. Them buildings coming down add the Rico 39 in 1995, and Rico Lake side got shyt clique-ied.
Been No Limit since 2000 CVS High School
As a 26 year man who had to pause the video several times throughout because of how sad this story was man… I truly pray that one day we can give the kids growing up in these areas hope for a future in which they get the same chance that I got
Same tuff salute
Never ever gonna happened sadly
This comment is for TRAP LORE ROSS . I have to say that you are a very amazing as well as talented. I am a Black Latino in SAN ANTONIO , TEXAS . I am an older individual but very much in to the rap scene and don’t know half as much as you do. Where do you get all that info from? And how the hell do you remember all that shit ? You deserve to do what you do. I know that there are some people that think you should not do what you do . They don’t understand your true calling to this profession and on top of all that you live over seas that in itself is amazing you need to get a Grammy and some type of honor. Brother I salute you.
Great article as usual 👍
1:58:28 it’s crazy how the two guys mother just seemed so unphased until she broke down. You can tell she lived in the area knowing this is something that happens and her kids happened to be the ones
She knew her kids were in the streets, she just wasn’t going to say that to the world.
She's also clearly a drug user so her perceptions are a little skewed.
@@FreeFlocka-pk6hv yea man but I think u can do drugs and be sad abt ur kid dying
@@FreeFlocka-pk6hvppl like you have little to no empathy
@@vlonezyy3330no he jus a realist, jus how errbody else should be but sadly all yall mfs rather ignore wuts happenin around yall
Dawg… it’s so crazy finally hearing the back story to all the music that I came up with. I’m the same age as Herbo.. all this hurt and pain man. I feel him. For anybody who lost a friend to gun violence I feel you & im praying for you and anyone that was involved.
I'm happy I moved away bc all this took place near where I lived (77th)
You should change your behaviour. You all stay offering thoughts and prayers.
He rapped and mocked the brutal death of other young men. Herb is a coward and a 🐱
You don't wanna know my life story if u think that's bad
Amazing work as always
Top notch video very informative and interesting
Yo even with my 40 hour work week and the daily struggles of living check to check these videos inspire me to do greater and be greater you put so much work into this content that it’s extremely inspirational. Over a fan of this channel throughout the years there’s not one video I’ve missed it’s so much quality information that’s public but you take the time to actually put all these pieces of the puzzle for audiences to understand the struggles around the world ongoing with the streets and our rap culture. Got people who have never been involved with the streets or the gang life style can clearly get a taste and almost feel like they’re at the scene from how vivid your analytic your video explains the experience. Thank you so much for your channel and work all the hard work that you and your team do to accomplish these masterpieces
I agree 💯 I'd rather live a working man than worrying is this the day I'm gonna get my head blown off
*you tried so hard to get a response* 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
whats a jit
@@extremeyhomophobic8137 he dint gon do it doe brah?
@Spell-Check for Dumb People 🤦🤣 😳
Damn… that grandma talking about her babies being left out there got me. I feel for her
Make no mistake. Her and her DUSTY daughters and sons that birthed THESE are a HUGE part of the problem.
Gang violence is evil.
They leave them out there to set an example
@jibrail, That grandmother knew what her babies were living and doing, should have taught them better. Now she cries.
@@yetundeoluwole-2991 go back and watch the video. Those kids were not involved in the gang life. They were visiting their grandmother. None of the 4 people killed that day were a part of this beef.
Love your vids. Wish you would do one on Slaughterhouse, its rise and fall.
This whole thing is a movie in & of itself! Trap Lore 55 is a legend 🙌
OH SNAP - now THIS is how you do it, you turn silent for a while and then STRIKE with a whopping T H R E E hour vid, just to assert your dominance. Trap Lore Ross? Nah mayn...Trap Lore BOSS
like MJ
You steady dropping hits sir, the accuracy of this video is scary I'm from Chicago and I'm learning shit 🤣💯🔥
1:58:06 Almost brought a tear to my eye. The way she says 'And my boys just must’ve got in the way I guess'😢 man I want to hug that lady.
Crazy how in 2012 me and my homies was blasting Chicago drill not knowing all this shit was 100% true and truly a war. Thumbs up to all the guys that made it out and stay away from that shit like Keef, truly inspiring and should be used as a model for rappers coming up in the chi to keep to their business and leave the streets alone. Shit only ends 2 ways, ina box or ina cell. 🙏
How’d u not know it was real ?
@@lighthouse022 because its music
Me too i only knew it was real when i found out about war in chiraq
Come on bro we all knew it was real
Bruh fr how could you not know it was real I was 14 bumpin that shit hypnotized by it and knew it was all 100% facts
TLR never fails. I’d love to see a Houston history video especially on SUC/Swishshouse/UGK etc 🔥
It’s not violent enough to be featured here
I would love one on Z-Ro
Those ain't gangs those are rap groups you casual
That would be the shit. There are alot of crazy stories from that era especially the beefs pimp c had and the ones between artists from swisha house and rap alot.
@@sketer2tymez Not gangs more like mafia type shit. You don't shit about UGK, SUC, and J Prince apparently.
Man, this ish is too real. Sad. Eye for an eye every day Well done Ross
GOOD WORK VERY DETAILED💯😎🚨
In reality this was a very sad story. Seeing the back and forth disrespect in real time I never stepped back and realized how difficult these young men have it in that environment. Shoota shellz was only 21 and died horribly. His mother father brother and himself all victims of violence. KTS Dre couldn't even have a funeral. Clearly NLMB having the most brutal killers is their claim to prosperity. What a life in what's supposed to be a first world country. This would've been an hour longer video if you included the no limit oblock connection and the death of gbe capo and also the beef between gbe and oblock and how that ties into the NLMB saga. If the Mexican cartels had mainstream rappers would be the only way we would see a more violent depiction of reality. Rip to all the lives lost
El Makabeliko ✈️🥷🏽
I implore you listen to corridos and research what they're singing about.. you'll find what you're looking for.
@@torrensalazar9468 Narcocorridos music is hella violent
Everyone beat me to the mariachi drill suggestion
@@JohnDoe-pm9ip Some narcocorridos and corridos alterados are disgusting. I turn that stupid shit off
Had this saved for six days until I had the time to sit down and really give this piece the respect it deserves. Thank you for your work man!
And i bet u didnt know anything about this lol i bet u even got popcorn cause its funny to u huh its just a game to all the new fans nobody cared bout chicago untill now now yall care lol
@@mannybruhh9969 bro you don’t even know me. I ain’t from Chicago , been there many times. I grew up 15 minutes from the Mexico border. I’ve seen murder in two different states as a child. I think this shit is sad and if you’d creep all my comments you’d see where I stand on all these. Peace to you man, and I hope if you’re in you find your way homie.
@@bamuz next to the border lol i was livin in mexico for 2 years catch up
@@mannybruhh9969 lol I can’t help where I was born, 🤷🏻 and shit 13 miles ain’t far When I was a kid, you could just drive into Mexico not much different in the 90s
@@mannybruhh9969 damn right I’m eating popcorn lmao, makes your comments all the more entertaining
This channel is gold, the fact that a white man is able to capture the complexities of gang culture so intricately is impressive to say the least
You sound racist lol
ShootaShellz seemed like a reasonable person. He knew what he was in and why it’s sad the amount of rappers and personalities lost in these pointless wars.
That's what made it so bad he knew better but couldn't or wouldn't stop it himself. He couldve just left started again. He was a young man he had the time to build another life for himself. But he chose to double down in what he was doing and ended up dying horribly.
The KTS Dre and Kyro dynamic always hurt the most to me.. I saw them go live together before this documentary.. and if it wasn’t because of the genocide they were born into they woulda been the best of friends ...shit is indescribably insane
Bruh what
okay nah this one might be stretching it. we dk what they "could've been" if they didn't grow up as opps, bc they did. talking like these men who fully hated each other could've been buddy buddy in another reality is just fantastical bruh
@@droomzy 051 Melly and THF Zoo could've been best friends had they not been at war with each other so its not a stretch at all, melly and zoo genuinely liked each other and expressed it too they've chilled and gambled with each other and everything they respected each other enough to have a small level of trust most people In that situation wouldn't dare. Zoo tries to play it off now melly gone by dissing him but he kinda misses melly he actually expressed that before and said he respected him and how real he was but of course when he got around Durk and Von he did all that dissing saying melly was a bitch and when fans reminded him of what he said before he pretended he ain't know what they were talking about. A lot of these guys can't show their emotions and put up a mask pretending I wouldn't go as far to say Kyro miss KTS Dre or anything but they probably could've been at least cool if their lives were different I wouldn't say best friends though.
@@violetsrayreikishop2 oh yeah Melly & Zoo actually had a lot in common tho. they were around the same age, they both moved like ghosts, they each had HELLA bodies & they were top members in their sets. but even with those 2, Zoo seems way more mature imo; whereas Melly was kind of a joker in comparison. I do agree that they'd have had a fairer shot at being homeboys tho, bc there was a degree of mutual respect between them. Kyro & Dre were yelling at each other & waving weapons in each other's face. plus Rio spoke deadass threats nearly the entire live, even tho Kyro was way more laidback about it. one of them's confrontational & the other's not taking shit too seriously. Ig in another reality they *could have* gotten along if need be, but unfortunately that's not *this* reality. RIP to KTS Rio, Melly, Von, & all the other gangsters who died from living the only life they knew
That tribal DNA came out in both of them real quick.
I would love to see a deep dive on New Orleans gang violence! These are all so tragic but so informative. I’ll watch another four hours 😅
No one wants to hear Bout new Orleans foh!
New Orleans 😂😂
Facts. The violence in New Orleans is way higher than these other cities
@@asherjohnson6678 its not a competition ..
@@2FadeMusic never said it was. She said the violence is higher out here(I live in New Orleans east so Ik) n I said it’s higher than others
Growing up in 2T's back in the 80's and 90's was crazy as hell... Learned some shit...
Juice went to school in homewood. A nice suburb way south of the city. This is an example of kids assuming that because they know active members they have to / want to represent them as well. Jeff forts grandson is still out here with the core values and it would be nice if you did a video on the positive that the stones still do.
claremount park is where he spent his childhood he graduated in hometown after moving in highschool
fr i thought juice just knew them i didn’t know he was involved wtf
@@DaRealZixfi childhood don’t matter you inside with your momma . What matters is wya when ur a teenager because that’s when you most influential and easily peer pressured
It’s not a lucky few that make it out . If you simply don’t gang bang you’ll have a fine life in Chicago .
@@ci6516 childhood develops you into the person you are the things you learn as a kid gives you your attitude what happens when you are a teenager is you suppresing it and gaining mental issues because you cant be you
Ross never disappoints with these masterpieces can’t wait to see what he’s delivered this time keep it up🙏
He got it all from Chicago scene 88
He got it all from Chicago scene 88
Very good video!
one of the best videos on youtube. I love the von and YB videos but this one is such a good doc and mostly closed story. I love it. You should make an in depth 6-hour video breaking down every beef of eminems career
Man you did an absolutely amazing job on this. I knew most of this because I follow Chicago Scene 88. Thanks for giving him credit also. But you were great. Can’t wait for the next one.
I have been mindlessly scrolling youtube for the past week and I couldnt find anything to watch. Thank you Trap Lore Ross for blessing us with another classic🙏
I`d never thought I could sit thought a 3 hour KZhead doc....
watching old videos hoping that they magically make Trap drop the new new.
It’s crazy how all these gangs are living so close to eachother literally a street away surrounded by gangs it’s all mad
bro this is so heartbreaking to watch and hear. you hear things in songs and sing along without giving a second thought but once you realize the back story from all of this it truly breaks your heart. RIP for everyone who lost their lives in this war, and prayers for everyone still in this war. no one deserves to lose their life, especially in such gruesome ways🖤
Crazy how many teenagers just starting life and already at the point where they accepted the fact they’ll be shot, killed, willing to kill, crash out or get locked up.
Thank you for putting all of this together. I am speechless. Need one about Baltimore 😢
@FBGpenis Like tf I said, we need one for BALTIMORE!!
Great documentary, loved the interviews with shootashellz. The whole first half you see him as this terrifying gang assassin, and he was, but then you see the interviews and find out he's only 21 and you just see the effect the streets has had on him. Sad shit, wish there was a solution to this madness, but I'm afraid that would take a level of intervention and support that we'll never see from our government.
Bro, I followed DJ Akademiks in the 2010's with the War In Chiraq videos.. I'm so glad u are covering all of these!!! I'm so happy u have graced us with more Chicago coverage bc there is SOOOOOOO MUCH people don't know & def should be educated on! For the Drill music's sake!! You truly are the GOAT of this game!!
Akademiks blew up off of covering chiraq violence
@@taran5209 Im from Chicago these young dudes went from video games to killers within a few years. 😢
This video was crazy I mean I’ve always been a huge juice fan and I wanted to find out more about nolimit cause I’ve been learning about other gangs from KZhead like o block and others and this was just a great informational video and I have a new respect for the streets rip to all those people, just makes you think cause I’m 24 that it would’ve been me in one of them deaths it’s just crazy
Down to the details fr. Crazy how i simply know all these names bc of Herb's music
I was born & raised in Chicago. I LOVE MY CITY! However, all the loss of lives l devastates me. Thank you for doing such a great piece. Prayerfully, the young people take notice and stop the loss of our Black Men. 🙏💕
What is your opinion on Interracial Cuckolding? I’m asking for my girlfriend
Your city is ass, I aint gone hold you shorty.
Need black fathers back in the homes or it will never happen.
@@recondolaidy-slayer8468 what does that even mean-
@@dtps_champion6016 fr
If you really think that I sat here and watched the entire three hours and even rewinded to catch every detail... you are absolutely correct!!! Kept me entertained while braiding my hair.
😆 🤣 😂
Trap you are the definition of being dedicated to your craft