I share the latest startup I've been working on called astralfans.
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#benawad #astralfans
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#benawad
I share the latest startup I've been working on called astralfans.
playlist:
#benawad #astralfans
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Follow me online: voidpet.com/benawad
#benawad
"hey ben, thanks for the update" - Mark Zuckerberg
hahaha
I think you meant 'Mark Suckerberg', typo huh ?
@CharacterX lmao :)
astral fans sounds like a platform where people talk about their star sign
tht wouldnt be a bad app idea
on bro😭
Exactly. that would attract a lot of Gen z users.
id b down
that is literally SUCH a sagittarius thing to say🤣🚨💯😎
Me: Hmm that’s not too bad a design Ben: Hideous Me: Hideous!!
this comment is so adorable
True 😂😂
Yup thats me lol, but he is right tho
I was like “god, no, that one?” And then he was like “kidding, we picked a different one”, and I felt trolled.
Bro when he joked about picking the shitty techno looking logo I was like “wait am I wrong???”
Well lets hope Onlyfans doesn't "discord" this project.
Congratulations you have just coined a new term. How does it feel ?
@@creativity5155 prob great
@@creativity5155 this must already exist
I've seen articles saying Onlyfans has plans on shifting away from NSFW content and more towards general fan/creator support lol
DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS!
Discord HQ: "Write that down, Write that down'
😳
lolol
Charles the french ref
Silicon Valley?
Wasn't the whole purpose of the Discord redesign to market it for other groups that gamers?
Drop the Fans, run with just "Astral"
This
Astral is such a sick name
I like the abbreviation though... ass-fans
New Shawn Parker in this startup lol. FYI Shawn was the one who told facebook to drop the from facebook. Yes, it was literally called the facebook lol
@@liftedup299 Someone got the reference 🙂 (It's also much better as Astral)
To me, the quizzes as a core component sound a bit forced. Can't imagine a lot of creators want a platform for only a small percentage of their audience without having a monetary incentive. Then again, I have no idea what the Jake Pauls of the world actually want
I agree, influencers care about money not the contact with the fans especially in the beauty/lifestyle community. What seperates the 'true fans' from the rest is the size of the wallet. I also can't come up with the reason why creators should choose this app over some generic quizz app/website. What is the long-term benefit of using this app rather than one time thing?
also you never know someone will leak the test answers or something
@@doom-and-gloom Yeah, actually, the whole quiz thing doesnt work whatsoever
The creators want the stans (the ones that can ace the quiz) in one place. Because they will be the ones that actually buy the stuff they sell. Maybe they can use Astralfans to target them directly with "special" offers, which will just be over priced junk for me and you.
@@mikiyasayele3538 Well quiz answers will get leaked the first day and if they want to sell their stuff they can do it in instagram to a much much bigger audience.
Drop the “fans” at the end. Makes it seem like a meme company with it
But isn't it?
I am not famous or anything, but I feel like this wouldn't appeal to me as a creator because it is basically plucking out all the weird "superfans" that know all about you when I would want to connect with the normal people who know a "normal" amount about me.
However, the weird super fans are also the easier to convince to buy something affiliate
@@asimpleguy2730 nice point
Lol make the quiz reject you if you score too high
The quiz doesn't have to be about the creator's personal life. I'm assuming the app let's the creator craft the quiz.
@@delkopiso good point. didn't think of that
When you said you picked design no 3 my heart stopped im shock cause that was literally the worst one😅 4th one is definitely the better choice
Same I hesitated between 1 and 4.
First I thought he was going say we have comment under the video which is good, and I was about to write 4, suddenly he said 3. For a moment I become "writeless"(not in dictionary 😊).
Number 1 was the best design imo.
3 wouldn’t be bad with a different font tbh
I know right...3 is just so generic, looks like maybe a health app's logo, not vibing
i think the one thing you're kinda missing is that these influencers don't interact with their fans on places such as discord not because they don't want to interact with lots of people, but because they don't have time or even desire to talk to fans at all.
They do, he just didn´t show that part yet in the video. The quizzes are only a prerequisite for joining a "server"
they still have instagram, facebook and stuff. maybe not they personally, but it's not important.
Ben's idea is a good fit for busy influencers then. The influencer's PR team can come up with stupid quiz questions, then rewards like a Tiktok-length video: "Hey! Thanks for being a part of my Brommunity! btw this Hello was brought to you by Skillshare" from the influencer.
@@CoryTheSimmons lmao
Yeah you're right. Those influencers already have a place to interact with fans and it's called Twitter.
Updated title: Putting my designer on blast
Did he change it?
@pouting emoji he keeps changing the title
Ben: This looks like trash Designer: 😳
Steve Jobs style of managing intensify lol
@@TheBlackManMythLegend true
@@TheBlackManMythLegend nice name
But Ben is right. I could not use this app.
why if designing is subjetive
The Gamification element sounds like it'll be the platform's own downfall
You underestimate the need for people to feel unique or special in the echo chamber that is a fan base or community.
@@techsavannah The point I was making is the gamification would limit the user base to a small group of users making things like monetizing the app hard among other things.
@@travis9260 only a few winners from time to time doesn't limit the lottery's user base
@@eliastouil7686 That's a government regulated system while this is an app lmao interesting strawman
@@travis9260 but it is akin to a lottery but its instead to be in a neurotic relationship with a mogul
Planning with co-founder on discord about an app to replace discord😂
Not a fan on the name, "fans" joined the list of words you shouldn't append in the end of your app, especially if it has the same number of syllables as OF
Totally agree. The name is a really bad choice :D
Just "astral" sounds nice ngl
@@manavendrasen not trademarkable I guess
just do like YT algorithm and call it "Game Changer Tesla Killer TOP App Live Royale Influencer vs Fans". Success guaranteed
@@manavendrasen Must be taken domain
That quiz thing sounds absolutely tacked on.
The first logo was my favorite by far
is it bad that when I saw the mockups I was like "this looks pretty good" and ben proceeds to roast it omg
yup. the mockups don't follow even basic ui/ux guidelines like accessibility and hierachy
dana yi pog
they look pretty...as a poster. But the colours hardly follow accessibility guidelines lol
I feel sad for the designer when he watch the video
Why is that? The design is horrible lol. But that's probably because the guy didn't had enough information about the app itself
Honestly I'm not a Fan of Option 4; It looks like a Gallery/Picture App to be honest
me two, this video will serve as a constant reminder that they are not a good designer , might probably stop designing , due to this video
Just my 2 cents: The app sounds reasonable, but I don't really see why a creator would want to use this as an entry barrier opposed to something like Patreon It seems like the quiz questions would realistically want to be tailored towards the creator in question, so that leads to the though of who will create these quizzes? A creator can't just reuse the same quiz questions over and over as the answers for the questions will inevitably get posted online, so this means new questions will need to be made for every quiz. Who will be responsible for creating these questions? That responsibly will end up falling on the creator themselves, as they will be the only ones who are able to come up with these tailored questions, and I just can't see creators putting in the time to come up with new questions say every month
Even if they manage to create new questions every month someone could just post all the answers somewhere and boom for that month you don't have the entry barrier anymore One solution would be to have random questions given to the "contestants", but then again... it doesn't sound good idk
exactly, but that's something that happens to every startup company, doesn't it? but if good marketing is done it might as well work out fine
@@drunkenpirate47x81 good point, at the end of the day, you can't know if something will be successful until it becomes successful
@@WolfrostWasTaken That would be true. In my scenario though, I was also thinking that this quiz would only take place once a month, that the questions are purely single use
The only people that need marketing are people who have a bad product.
I feel like Ben is also the cofounder
He is probably not going to say "Mean and myself..."
It's his mom
it's possible. He used the "she" pronoun to refer to the cofounder, so ben might be a "they"
I’m pretty sure from my experience with several startups, the name is a bad choice. Name is too long and too hard to spell. Just imagine a creator saying “Sub to my astralfans” it just already sounds bad … Anyways good luck, idea itself sounds ok 👍
Ok thanks steve jobs
Not gonna lie, this doesn’t really seem like a great idea
Option 1 was the best imo
But the logo they picked is simpler and works better with mostly any resolution though I also like option 1 :D
I was gonna type the same thing
@@ekiaka yeah at some point they are gonna simplify the logo anyway
It was going well up until you introduced the quiz element. I feel like that is an unappealing niche I just can’t see taking off.
Same. But still I think it has potential as a way for creators to connect with their fans. Maybe not through quizzes, but certainly there will be some better ways of letting people enter a channel. I think the real value in this idea is a platform specially dedicated for creators to connect with fans, since discord is (apparently) not doing a good job at that
You know, sometimes I feel like Ben sabotages himself on purpose. Like this is fun for him.
Design looks like a contemporary youth-focused app. It’s fine if it wasn’t your cup of tea, that’s what revisions and an iterative process is for, but publicly trashing your designer is beyond unprofessional.
When you said you picked design #3 I started cracking up
I think creators would want all of their users to be a part of the community, rather than a small percentage. I think it'll be nice if you ask a few creators what they'd prefer and then go ahead
I guess I don’t agree with that… I think creators would want their true and valuable fans to be part of the community. Their “default” communities (on KZhead, IG etc) already have a lot of toxic people and trolls, if they refer people to another platform, they would want only the best members there. In other words, a clean community
I agree. Ben didn't mention consulting any creator so I assume he probably didn't. The whole premise of this app is based on a hunch that content creators 1. have time to create weekly (?), long quizzes and 2. want a super exclusive fan base that might or might not be as financially generous as the existing one on Patreon.
@@mattecscc There is no such thing as bad publicity
if you guys ned help i can make integer in c++ just let me know thx
wat
Cool. I can make char with java.
wow fantastic such qualifications
Cool. I can make it in c
but is it memory safe? nah didnt think so 😎 I can write hello world in Rust without compiler warnings 🦀whos cool now bra
your startups give me the motivation to create my own startup, hope to see you succeed
wow just imagine being the guy who designed this, with all heart and effort, and coming across this video on youtube. must be heartbreaking
Dang you really went in on your designer, I hope they have a thick skin
For fellow entrepreneurs there, this content is really valuable. Keep up the good work Ben!
Exactly these are my opinions when i saw the mockups
i feel like this is kinda like patreon but the creators don’t get paid
exactly
And only the snobs get in it
I bet you money in 2-3 months his gonna make another video saying "I am done with astralfans"
Is not the product but the friends we made along the way
Hhhhh
I agree this app does not seem necessary whatsoever
I liked dogehouse a lot more tbh
And? Done more in 2-3 months than most of the neck beards here on KZhead.
Really interesting and generous to see the project progress from so early on. Please keep it up! :)
The logos all look amazing tbh
Loll, this is "Keeping Up With the Kardashians" on a whole new level
prediction: your app is going to be riddled with tech and gaming people, since that's your audience here, and that is going to bring in tech and gaming influencers, basically you're making another discord, congratulations!
Ayyy welcome to the startup club. Love those designs!
Oh man I was so relieved when I found out you were joking about the logo you picked 😂
I think the app will fail, not for any technical reasons, just the fact that the co-founder uses language like 'lets circle back on this conversation'. Hyper cringe. Take her 'how to talk business' books away!
I assumed it was ironic 💀
I think it was a joke
I think whats cringe is this comment. The humour literally flew right over your head
@@jel1951 The whole point is to play along, woosh dud, woosh
@@ablanchi are you suggesting the original commenter is participating in a multi layer meta joke -_-
I am gonna be honest, the quiz would be a no brainer later on once someone collect enough problems that they are no longer relevant, unless you bother enough to tweak the quizzes every so often
This one is going 'to the moon'! really nice concept!
I totally loved the design.
Me: Oh cool, they have these cool gradients that all all the rage right now. Ben: The gradients gotta go. Me: oh
And now you made the first mistake. Revealing something without actually having anything deployed yet. Watch how either OF or any other big-tech steals this :) You never learn Ben, you either reveal the final product first or you just keep quiet until you do.
Actually, now anyone can just steal this, they even have a design to follow. Heck, I feel like I could also give it a try but using Flutter. Anyways, hope this time its not the case but if it happens, you should really consider the way you create these.
Less likely
@0x88 Actually he said in the previous video that this was serious? And I can correctly recall that even tho DogeHouse started as a meme project, he was pouring a lot of time into making it a serious one. So yeah, he makes videos, but he needs to learn when should he reveal an idea. This one even goes as far as also revealing the entire design, so not only everyone has access to the idea but also how it might be looking.
Yeah seriously you should have kept this quiet until you had a deployed product.
I think he is just trolling everybody, and make a secret project instead
At first, I was shocked by the logo thinking, that that completely misses the target audience. I was so relieved after the next sentence
So it’s a quiz app kind of like kahoot where you can join a quiz and see how many people voted for each answer too. Also just my honest opinion, I don’t get why a creator like any of the ones you listed would use this
I’ve seen this concept used only in educational settings so not sure how it would take off in an entertainment one
Discord: * a non-profitable business losing money on server costs * Ben Awad: * my time to innovate has come *
Pretty sure Discord doesn't lose money.
No they don't
IIRC, discord struggles to maintain profitability because it offers most of its services for free. That's one of the main reasons they sought to get acquired by Microsoft (but now going for IPO).
@@SuboptimalEng You're right... I thought I read they are already profitable, but last thing they communicated, they're not yet
unless that name is a play on onlyfans that's some really unfortunate connotations
Can't wait to see the new design.
awesome plotting against discord whilst planning it in discord xD love the idea ❤
Let's hope Discord doesn't copy this time...
good designers are the ones who can influence to keep what they like.
"REVENGE" Ben awad is getting evil😂
Power tie. It does not go unnoticed.
The public blasting of your "designer" at the end wasn't cool
Sounded like you were saying "actual fans" at first, which would have made total sense since its only the most true fans who get to join, but then realized it was astral fans, and that's where you lost me.
Actual fans would be neat but then.. he would probably get sued by only fans
A "White & some hue of green" color scheme might be well suited for the type of audience you are willing to have. Also, while keeping light mode the default, do add an option to switch to dark mode.
considering the audince, that might not be top priority tbh
Drop the “fans” and just keep Astral…you’re welcome! Love your content
The design was generic as hell, it could have been a dating app, and it would still work lol
From a dev's perspective, i'm sure the designer has seen the success of social media apps like Instagram and the familiarity the users have with the colors on Instagram, plus you've said its also targeted towards celebrity like people, who are obviously judged (by a good part) on how many followers they have on Instagram...so personally, the design was okay... maybe ask the designer to add the "Astro floating theme" that you tend to like... ---ochieng'
why do you sign a youtube comment, with the same name as your channel name nonetheless
bruh you got me so hard with "number 3"
astral sounds like it's a really spiritual app
Does anyone else think this design is fine? I'm not talking about from a professional designer standpoint where you have to be compliant on all sorts of stuff but just at a glance from a consumer.
This project gon blow uuuuup!!!!
anybody else get chills when he said REVENGE?
What the world doesn't need is another social app. Just sayin'
Are you using Expo with react native?
Does Expo support in-app payments yet? I know that was a dealbreaker for me when I was scaffolding my mobile app and that’s why I went with Ionic.
Hey Ben, great to see you back and something new! I have some concerns regarding the "superfans" aspect of the app, using quizzes to filter out "non-real" fans from "real" ones. I am personally not a huge fan of "invite-only" apps (and I was an early member of Dribbble) as it creates a sort of echo chamber with superfluous interactions. Creators are unlikely to get constructive feedback that can help them become better at their craft. Anyways, I wish you good luck with your project :)
Ngl I absolutely loved the design of the mock-up from 5:04... the colors and gradients fit perfectly :D
Gotta say, the current design is pretty good
Margins too small, vibrant colors shuold have been used in CTAs etc only otherwise they're useless and as Ben said lack of hierarchy while reading. Also it reminded me of a design I made myself, which speaks volumes for how generic it is. Just slap some rounded rectangles and you're done lol
@@blackwhattack Literally who asked? JohnTravoltaLookingAroundConfused.gif
@@blackwhattack that's pretty subjective opinion biased to your own preferences. Your points are not objective and precise. You talk about margins, have you seen Instagram app? It must make you very mad as they literally have little to none margins, especially on "Explore" page. As the client he has the right to say what he doesn't like in the final work, but as the dev, telling UI team to refactor this and that is stupid and disrespectful to UI designers. If you properly choose UI team, you should trust them and their expertise. And yeah, I'am dev too 😎
@@blackwhattack This design is far from being generic. Stop humiliating people that have been working on this. Do you have own opinion? Or just copy paste what Ben says? I would love to see how non-generic UI you would make 😂
Just call it astral, get rid of fans
Trademark issues
your videos are so motivating.
Option 3 is the best!
I honestly thought you were about to launch yet another OnlyFans clone
What are the other onlyfans apps out there? For research purposes ofc
@@parlor3115 fr
@@parlor3115 fansly, fanhouse, fancentro, modelhub, the list goes on. It’s insane how quickly they’ve all popped up as well
@@SourceHades funny you say that because I did the same thing and arrived at the exact same pain point. I think most of your concerns can be solved by using Stripe Identity (not sponsored)
@@parlor3115 Patreon. But it was there before only fans.
Astrodoge?
Sounds better as doge fans
:0
The eloquence of your speech and the words you choose to use hurt my head. In a good way.
Looks great! My one concern is that it already takes a dedicated fan to be nice enough to take a quiz. I feel like most creators wouldn’t want to turn around and reject fans like that from their community.
I had a freaking heart attack when he nearly chose number 3.
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This is huge
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welp, now you've got a competitor!
phone number required to use an app is a huge turn off for me.
What's the backend stack?
its the postgres whateveryoucallit beast with nodejs typescript postgres apollo graphql 💪
so discord for the normies
Who knows when Ben is throwing random information to throw the competitors in a different direction!!
Oh man, Ben's got the tie on.
Did you just get your idea stolen, and then followed that up with revealing your next idea? 🙈
Was wondering the very same thing. He should have waited till the very last minute right before app launch
This is a discord clone targeted at another marked. This is not like an idea that every audio based company had like the clubhouse clone. So there is less chance it will be copied soon.
@@ivoderuever How is it a discord clone? its the furthest thing away from discord i can think of
@@soupnoodlesNot a 1:1. He said it himself that it is kind off a Discord clone.
@@suhan.acharya lol
Say less ben, Discord will again steal your idea
Ben! I wonder what your handshake is like... such a wonderful grip on that mic!
man, we are getting free class on how to build a tech startup, hats off
not first
Thanks for the free designs
Dude! Great idea!
Ben you cannot imagine how happy you just made Facebook and Discord
RIP to the guy that made logo 3. Don't give up the good fight bro.