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“The only thing I’ve seen Leffen do with Charizard is either up smash or die” Gold
@lancelee3385 жыл бұрын
Leffen's Zard is actually ass
@captainquickscope84145 жыл бұрын
Captain Quickscope my man needs to train in the art of zard
@sethstoll85255 жыл бұрын
Charizard isn’t that good anyways, squirtle and ivysaur are the ones making pokemon trainer a good character
@Piratekingg435 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the point. He takes out zard when he is about to die so that he can start off with squirtle and take advantage of the invcinbility frames
@AgentOrange5025 жыл бұрын
Andy mostly just ivysaur tbh
@AgentOrange5025 жыл бұрын
This game is already ten times more entertaining to watch than smash 4
@ryansvicee5 жыл бұрын
This game is more entertaining than any other smash. Do not be afraid to say it. The only reason you think or see melee as good is because its loyal fanbase overhype the fuck out of it, attracting noobs and keeping the sheeps in check.
@Yokai_Yuri5 жыл бұрын
Omega Storm nice b8 m8
@bilalgill67225 жыл бұрын
@@Yokai_Yuri life as a zoomer
@charliechuckles64945 жыл бұрын
@@Yokai_Yuri mate nah spacies matches are so fast there is nothing like it
@austing.86825 жыл бұрын
Omega Storm this man is so salty
@andrewrombach39385 жыл бұрын
i come from the future to say it wasn't ike who was broken, it was leo all this time.
@Carleritano4 жыл бұрын
Ike was just fundamentally easy, this coming from an Ike main
@literallyasneeze21353 жыл бұрын
Well, I thought that was obvious
@ManusMeridiem3 жыл бұрын
@@literallyasneeze2135 I’m a Ike main as well and I can say he’s easy fundamentally
@Ghost-sk7yp3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@parker69373 жыл бұрын
Foreal 🙏
@O.G.1Love3 жыл бұрын
8:57 that platform literally came outta nowhere just so leo could take that stock
@dedik8SKB4 жыл бұрын
Stage awareness 1000
@sullivanish4 жыл бұрын
@@sullivanish more like reaction
@LumboDumbo2 жыл бұрын
Leffen choked so hard, could have been a 3-0 with squirtle, a true goat should be dominant and consistent and playing well, not opponent choking
@dragonplayz66062 жыл бұрын
Or maybe by using a double jump, but who knows
@odstagent1070 Жыл бұрын
I've gotta say Leffen is one of the most exciting players to watch. Some of the plays he makes are just insane. Hopefully he sticks with it, I think his ceiling is incredibly high in this game
@austinwirtz24345 жыл бұрын
Austin Wirtz and that's just his second tournament in ultimate
@Aziz....5 жыл бұрын
He's dropping pt for inkling I think :'(
@alephbunchofnumbers5 жыл бұрын
@@alephbunchofnumbers is that true? As an inkling main that is *hype*
@whong095 жыл бұрын
@@whong09 actually on second thoughts I might have spoken too soon. But yeah so far it seems like he intends to main inkling with wolf as a secondary. He's going kinda tryhard with inkling on stream right now and has nothing but good things to say about her/him. But again, this is like day 1 post tourney, so he has yet to properly try some other characters that has been recommended to him (e.g. roy, pikachu?)
@alephbunchofnumbers5 жыл бұрын
@@alephbunchofnumbers Prob Young Link. He did say that he's interested in him.
@jongharyu5 жыл бұрын
*salem sweating in the crowd*
@baronbad59075 жыл бұрын
Leffen lost cause he wasn't a smash player.
@lolcatjunior5 жыл бұрын
That's not sweat, that's the research spitting on the competition through his face.
@phillconklin3825 жыл бұрын
@Lost in Space or give him a few months and he'll be beating salem's ass. Stay mad.
@samuelventura46245 жыл бұрын
Ultimate is hardly for casuals. Otherwise Melee players would be destroying everyone, but all the gods of melee are ranked in the 50s and 60s.
@phillconklin3825 жыл бұрын
@@lolcatjunior let that joke die kid. On a side note he got surprisingly far.
@Yokai_Yuri5 жыл бұрын
5:40 was so good
@grohlski86695 жыл бұрын
"That was genius."
@dee65615 жыл бұрын
big leff turned into huge leff for a second
@ryanmarcus31165 жыл бұрын
Ultra Instinct Leffen
@pearlwhite56825 жыл бұрын
8:27〜
@user-xl6ih5bo1h5 жыл бұрын
That was the most hype moment I've seen in the whole tournament tbh
@Jiggonomics5 жыл бұрын
It's pathetic how people are getting salty about Ike's Nair when MkLeo is one of the very few who's dominating with the character. Try actually spamming nair all the time like you claim and see how far you go.
@mle18725 жыл бұрын
Ike's nair is a great spacing tool with nonexistent lag and huge hitbox, great combo tool that racks up quick damage, sets up to kill confirms like up air and bair. It does everything
@pesky21195 жыл бұрын
@@pesky2119 It's also unsafe on block w/out spacing, very whiff punishable, and slow to come out (thus losing most air-to-air interactions against fast aerials). Spacing aerials is pretty much all Ike can do in neutral, and there's clear and consistent counterplay. To say that it's an oppressive option, comparable to Smash 4 Sheik fair, or Brawl MK Tornado, would be absurd. MKLeo wins because he's applying his fundamentals - which are the best in the game - to a character that relies and thrives on fundamentals. At the top level of play, landing a nair as Ike requires you to outplay at some level.
@pizzashark70675 жыл бұрын
@@pesky2119 N-air is also highly parryable. There is no doubt about when it's coming to get you because it starts so high. The fairly probable mindset of "he's gonna nair cuz that's the best" also makes it very susceptible to predictions that are good against it. Ike also had a HIGHLY gimpable recovery (notice I say gimpable, not short. There's a difference), making his options go get back on stage questionable against good players (see everytime Leffen dairs Ike as example 1). Ike looks really good and simple with MKLeo cuz he's really fucking good and makes everything looks smooth. Kinda like Tweek with Wario. Stop overreacting. Stop oversimplifying. Ur acting like the type of people that hate Fox in melee. Just get better, it is possible.
@michaelcorser43505 жыл бұрын
The reason people are salty is because the Ike player just naired and grabbed. Leffen was actually zoning, making reads, edgeguarding, etc. And no the "durrr why don't you just play Ike" isn't an excuse. It doesn't magically change his nair from having no lag, it's just an appeal to accomplishment fallacy. Basically Leffen had to work 3 times harder than MKLeo for the same results. Nair just did basically all the work for him, it was low IQ with little effort vs big IQ and lots of effort.
@CrimeShutter5 жыл бұрын
@@CrimeShutter fucking lol
@colinmcnair55195 жыл бұрын
8:55 I appreciate the mention of the name of Ike's sword, Ragnell.
@OrangeKyle915 жыл бұрын
What’s this? A commentator being an actual FE fan and not just an awakening and fates dating simulator fan? Weird.
@biffyguybiffy62925 жыл бұрын
Biffyguy Biffy Awakening and Fates are still FE games. Keep being salty lol.
@dittom34265 жыл бұрын
@@dittom3426 They are. And they're not bad games. But they're wildly over-exposed compared to the rest of the series. Some of us prefer other entries in the series. Not because they're older, but because we love the characters. It's like if every single Pokémon thing for the last five years was about Kalos and Alola, except different versions of Kalos and Alola that had none of the other Pokémon from the other regions. A lot of Pokémon fans would be sick of Kalos and Alola. It's the same with Fire Emblem. It's reasonable to be tired seeing the same characters over and over.
@OrangeKyle915 жыл бұрын
OrangeKyle91 That’s more understandable. As a Pokemon, we have the opposite problem, where everything is catered to the original games and the newer ones get crap.
@dittom34265 жыл бұрын
@@dittom3426 Yeah, now that I think of it, that's a more accurate comparison. Awakening and Fates are the Pokémon Gen 1 of Fire Emblem in terms of over-exposure.
@OrangeKyle915 жыл бұрын
10:21 I got an ad right when MKLeo threw his up-air but right before I could tell if it connected or if he gave Leffen enough time to escape with down-b and they put me through so much suspense my heart was about to explode 😭
@danielmartinez57215 жыл бұрын
I was so mad they did that
@JawshIsLive5 жыл бұрын
I got an ad too lol
@supersaiyankrillin12375 жыл бұрын
Same here
@allensmith46295 жыл бұрын
To be continued
@angrypepe76155 жыл бұрын
Ne aswell
@AMV_KINGDOM_mv5 жыл бұрын
Chillindude just subbed to MKLeo.
@BigZach775 жыл бұрын
Dude that's old beef, he and chillin r cool now. LeffvSalem's the hot topic rn lol
@skadi7535 жыл бұрын
@Jericho Perez salem got salty at leff for calling snake sucko. Then he gets a PhD for being an a hole
@skadi7535 жыл бұрын
@Jericho Perez Search up years of research.
@SamuelSamuelSamuel5 жыл бұрын
@@skadi753 Pretty sure OP was joking
@JoeDan545 жыл бұрын
@@JoeDan54 ya ik, but im just saying the joke's kinda old but whatever.
@skadi7535 жыл бұрын
amazing plays from both players! Just interesting that Leo never got a chance to punish any of those Ivysaur's ledge regrabs in this match.
@AmosdollMusic5 жыл бұрын
Amosdoll Music hi I love your channel
@chillwithxavier64844 жыл бұрын
Well he punished it once
@Robert-qe8ny3 жыл бұрын
Never thought I’d see you here. Love your content dude.
@Cruzfire103 жыл бұрын
I think he tried to but I also think Leffen was trying to bait him in with it.
@jesusteran81103 жыл бұрын
@@jesusteran8110 ig so. Impressive that he was so good even back then, and with Ike.
@Noba466882 жыл бұрын
Big Leff putting up a good fight against one of the top seeds.
@emmbeesea5 жыл бұрын
Fuk leffen..
@robbiesarkioglu56235 жыл бұрын
@@robbiesarkioglu5623 fuk you
@HatsuneInku5 жыл бұрын
Emm Bee Sea Sad thing is, that wasn’t even Leos trump card character. He’s hiding a terrifying main out there
@AntiSVH5 жыл бұрын
@@HatsuneInku Fuk u 2. Leffen is a scumbag
@robbiesarkioglu56235 жыл бұрын
@@robbiesarkioglu5623 Keep hating, maybe someday someone will listen to you
@TheCactuar1245 жыл бұрын
Y'all saying ike is lame and braindead, go ahead and take him to quickplay, start spamming nairs, see how far that gets you. Drop GSP faster than Zimbabwe's economy
@Aname5505 жыл бұрын
That flex on Zimbabwe's economy was not necessary
@baneofthebread5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't play Ike but every time someone spams nairs with Ike I get the punish, so to see leffen unable to punish it at all makes me think with proper spacing it's actually really good. Definitely not brain dead otherwise he'd be getting punished for it.
@zetton13745 жыл бұрын
That was unnecessary lol
@pearlwhite56825 жыл бұрын
A Name Yeah to a lot of people it just looks like pros are spamming it, when really they just use it more than other moves since it is a good combo starter. They use it a lot, but not so much that it’s too predictable and punishable.
@matthewtam76455 жыл бұрын
I seeing 4 Ikes online today in quickplay spamming the same short hop Nair it is soo braindead for a character that have the safest move with less landing lag.
@jacoryarnett73475 жыл бұрын
Shite. Was hype for the first few games, but Leffen lost it or Leo downloaded. Regardless, I HOPE Leffen continues to play Ultimate. He showed what he could do, and I hope he continues to do just that.
@dee65615 жыл бұрын
DeeCee 51 leffen is still in the tournament.....
@G.dot_5 жыл бұрын
@@G.dot_ he ded
@stairfall123456789005 жыл бұрын
He got sent to loser's, he can still win lol
@HatsuneInku5 жыл бұрын
Nope he's very out. He lost too Yeti's Megaman @@HatsuneInku
@moomba_5 жыл бұрын
@@HatsuneInku he lost in losers aswell
@TitanKingInk5 жыл бұрын
MkLeo feels like a final boss
@rastabananaman2065 жыл бұрын
Rasta BananaMan that’s zero
@lawlisbetterthanyou6285 жыл бұрын
Lowell Bevan Nah not anymore. ZeRo does not play this game as competitively as he did Smash 4
@angelmendez-rivera3515 жыл бұрын
Angel Mendez-Rivera true but if you’ve seen zero vs Mkleo in ultimate zero won
@lawlisbetterthanyou6285 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 ZeRo's the hidden boss you get to after you 100% complete the rest of the game
@SydneySininen5 жыл бұрын
Nah, he's right. It's mk as the final boss. Zero would be put to shame now. The one invitational tournament don't mean shit. Lotta people would smack down zero. Samsora, tweek, Ally, probably even void now.
@Chadstrife225 жыл бұрын
That's the thing about MKLeo, and the main reason of he being my favorite player, he learns so damn fast, you can see this in almost every match up, the first couple of rounds he does okayish, and the he obliterates his opponents, he's a real prodigy, he learns patterns so fast and applies corrections on the go.
@HalXV5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Zero's Diddy in sm4sh, except Zero would slow down as he learned and win off conditioning whereas Leo goes from 0-100 and obliterates his opponents.
@machduel5 жыл бұрын
yeah he learns how to spam aerials really well. such a hard thing to do. 300 IQ play right there
@wallapee5 жыл бұрын
@@wallapee if he only spammed aereals he wouldn't be the number one player in the world hahahaha, why don't you just "spam aerials" like him and become the number one player in the world? You said it yourself is very easy, any person could do it.
@HalXV5 жыл бұрын
@@HalXV Aerials*, why can nobody spell? And no thanks, I have a real job and I don't like this game enough to play it for more than an hour at a time. It's slow and incredibly repetitive. Sakurai would never make a smash game that can be played at a truly high competitive level on purpose, hence why melee is the only smash game that is fun to watch. He isn't the best player in the world either, game hasn't been out for long and lots of people haven't dedicated themselves to playing it. Leo has no other choice.
@wallapee5 жыл бұрын
@@wallapee sure
@HalXV5 жыл бұрын
6:30 my man in the back doing the dab
@gerardoaeschlimann99995 жыл бұрын
My man in the back doing the dab and shit
@Blue-jn1ph5 жыл бұрын
"doing the dab" oh nonnoonnnon ohhh nooooo
@Adrey5 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@Mari-td7ny5 жыл бұрын
MC Lion was Ike - and well, Leafy was Pokémon trainer.
@a-aron41485 жыл бұрын
@@Blue-jn1ph confirmed wavy
@dominikdeciga43075 жыл бұрын
This video showed up in recommendations and i remember how everyone used to say Ike’s nair was broken, he was carried, etc etc yet nobody could achieve the same results, Leo’s gameplay combined with his game knowledge/understanding makes him who he is!
@leafy2797 Жыл бұрын
The entire stream chat during this was spamming “YO DID HE JUST SLOWLY WALK UP AND NAIR”
@cananada71435 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of both dudes, that had me on the edge of my seat!
@phillconklin3825 жыл бұрын
The viewers and the crowd came alive this set. It was pure hype
@SuperNero7915 жыл бұрын
Leffen with the "GALAXY BRAIN"
@Fishming55 жыл бұрын
Yes, covering your recovery with projectiles is galaxy brain now. The future is now, old man.
@joshuameadows31665 жыл бұрын
Got him a little hyped up
@CarlosMartinez-xs2bn4 жыл бұрын
These commentators were pretty much climbing over each other to ride leffen. The amount of bias in this match is unreal.
@yourconscience80184 жыл бұрын
This tourney will always be memorable for me as the first big ultimate major and being the first tourney i got into as a smash fan
@varunagajoashan10544 жыл бұрын
Still a fan all these years later?
@remochovsky10562 жыл бұрын
@@remochovsky1056 yep and always will be
@varunagajoashan10542 жыл бұрын
People can say what they want about Leo, but that combo off of dair at 8:59 was clean
@jean-lucfagnan77985 жыл бұрын
Hey, to anyone complaining about Ike, don’t mistake “broken” for viable. I was an Ike main since Brawl and through smash 4. He’s my secondary now since Inkling made it in(my #2 most wanted character for Smash). When I mained Ike, I was well aware he was mid-low tier at best in previous games, but still had potential. He’s actually a good character now which makes me happy since my favorite FE lord. Even being good, he still has flaws: linear/exploitable recovery(even though it’s a solid recovery, it is predictable), weight(a lot of characters can combo him will since he doesn’t have a good escape move and weighs a lot), and lack of ability to handle projectiles well(seriously, how much did Leffen used razor leaf?). Ike is really good in this game, but he deserves to be. He was considered low/mid tier in the past, and dedicated Ike players can now have a taste of what it’s like to be viable. Even though I’d win locals with Ike in smash 4, it wasn’t brain dead. May I even add, it still isn’t brain dead.
@KeleuHerdley5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Everyone complaining about him being "broken" and stuff, like... then why isn't he dominating the scene? Why isn't he Brawl Meta Knighting it? Good Ike players are just good. It's that simple. They know how to play the fundamentals well. They read well. They have great instincts. Ike is easily exploitable, but their skills are honed. Get over it. Anyone saying he's "broken" or "braindead" is literally just making excuses, and they know it- and that's exactly why they're getting so salty from their own tears too much to realise they just need to get better at the game. Only scrubs and frustrated middle of the road players complain about this kind of stuff in the first place. Skilled players just deal with it and improve. If they get beaten, they take the beating and learn from it. They don't whine. I believe the phrase is... get good?
@Stathio4 жыл бұрын
Who did you first want to be put in the game, before Inkling?
@seb12323 жыл бұрын
Sebastien Lessore at the time, I wanted Azura from FE: Fates, since she was one of the few Fire Emblem characters with unique moveset potential. She’s a mythical songstress who wields a lance, and she has a lot of similar qualities to that of a water bender. I think she was a better pick than Corrin imo. At this point though, I’m kinda done with FE characters for this game. Now I kinda just want more games represented in smash.
@KeleuHerdley3 жыл бұрын
This was the greatest thing to watch. This smash game really is for sure what the community needs. #oneunit
@goochiewarrior47485 жыл бұрын
How beautiful that the 7th best penguin could make it this far
@WypsotorNyloff5 жыл бұрын
7th best penguin turned into one of the best penguins lol.
@jongharyu5 жыл бұрын
He's a toadally awesome penguin
@erikhernandez36085 жыл бұрын
The Ike player is also playing well. He short hopped over low tilt attacks, behind Ivysaurs whips, he blocked stuff well, recovered nicely, etc. It was a fun game to watch.
@freetrader00005 жыл бұрын
"The ike player" I can tell you're either a melee player or new
@viktorsalazar11914 жыл бұрын
“The Ike player” Dude its Mkleo...
@someguy4014 жыл бұрын
Dayum, that was like an anime fight choreography. Leo really picked up on that last match too. You could see his reaction times grow over the set especially that last match, he was getting that adrenaline rush for sure.
@ZDY666665 жыл бұрын
this was so hype live
@ameyadani12675 жыл бұрын
やっぱ上手い人はほんとに上手いんだなって思いました………すごく見応えのあるバトルですね👍👍👍
@user-dg7wh6lp5v5 жыл бұрын
I don't get why people are complaining about ike's neutral air hitbox when ivysaur has a giant down air and up air. They're both good characters
@daray215 жыл бұрын
People just to like to claim Ike does nothing but Nair while every other character has an attack that they spam in neutral. Leffen just spams razor leaf in neutral, gets punished for it and leo is the spammer.
@tylertanner58535 жыл бұрын
His range is way too big and he has huge hit boxes for his speed. Ivysaur is slow AF
@Twerk945 жыл бұрын
You’re joking, right? Ike’s neutral air covers his entire body and over prioritizes any move, and leads directly into kill moves. Everyone loves defending these overpowered Fire Emblem characters with their disjointed hit boxes and ridiculous priority.
@MC-oy8mh5 жыл бұрын
Ike's nair is pretty dumb dude It's too make up for his lack of speed overall
@Keurgui15 жыл бұрын
Ivy's d-air and u-air are NOT comparable to Ike's n-air at all LOL. I say this as an Ike main. It's a pretty dumb move.
@zatchiel5 жыл бұрын
Man Leffen used to be good enough to touch Leo. Now he whines about bowser for 2 hours.
@Mystravian4 жыл бұрын
This is the most entertaining match I’ve watched in Ultimate so far.
@DREAMSQU33ZE5 жыл бұрын
This was such an amazing set
@fiwip69845 жыл бұрын
Now imagine Leffen vs Salem in losers.
@SamuelSamuelSamuel5 жыл бұрын
Call the cops ;)
@fallenchao5 жыл бұрын
salem aint in losers tho is he?
@dingo96965 жыл бұрын
He was. Salem lost to Captain Zack
@TheTdbj5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTdbj HA! Shoulda been practicing instead of researching melee
@HatsuneInku5 жыл бұрын
@@HatsuneInku he still placed higher than leffen
@meem93095 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Ike's moves in Ultimate.
@alexandervolgzangief67595 жыл бұрын
Gonna be real Max has really upped his commentary over the years. Mad respect man.
@jaylasisk39535 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Some more practice on the PT secondaries and Leffen will be DANGEROUS for everyone. 🎈
@RobertAntonyJameson5 жыл бұрын
looking back on it. there really was nothing special about leo's ike, rather he was just consistently doing the right thing in situations
@NickNick-xv6wv2 жыл бұрын
Ike's nair is such a consistent kill confirm. Comobing into up air at such high percents is so powerful
@CrumbsLamond9 ай бұрын
Damn leffen couldve had this if he didnt swap ivy so much, I think all the stocks he lost were ivy
@BbotTV5 жыл бұрын
Yea but I don't think he has much experience with skilled Ikes. And MkLeo is just MkLeo.
@stairfall123456789005 жыл бұрын
Problem is ivy is the best of the three and if you can’t get much going then it’ll slowly crumble. Once MkLeo downloaded ivy it was all over.
@mute83755 жыл бұрын
He switched to ivy cause squirtle doesnt have good kill options and charizard is very unsafe. Ivy has many good kill options and zoning plus nair is preety good. But ike nair lmao
@xStealthPigeon5 жыл бұрын
@@xStealthPigeon Most of the times he got a kill was when he got leo off stage with squirtle and then switched to ivy to finish the edgeguard. But most of the times he switched to ivy in neutral he just got blown up.
@geran44735 жыл бұрын
@@xStealthPigeon Leff is used to swapping to ivy past 40% and then charizard above 100%, but in this case his ivy was getting out-zoned/comboed by Ike and he had a lot better success with Squirtle getting the % up because he's faster, smaller hitbox, and lighter making it harder to combo.
@emissarygw22645 жыл бұрын
its matches like this that make you wanna fly out to Genesis and watch them with the crowd
@colt45314 жыл бұрын
Didn't even know leffen played ultimate at all lol that's crazy
@dewdesi8 ай бұрын
All the pro melee players did when it first dropped. M2K leffen armada mango leffen etc
@neverknowsbest.5 ай бұрын
MKLeo's Ike over here lookin like Ken's Marth in the old days
@EzraTheChannel5 жыл бұрын
This comment section has more salt than the Dead Sea.
@nimroddafny71255 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it seems they've lost to a ton of Ike players.
@strings4915 жыл бұрын
Ok wow I have never felt the urge to watch a match again but here we go THANKS LEFFEN
@KingGamma245 жыл бұрын
bruh I still watch this set to this day
@neyun4 жыл бұрын
wow look at the crowd for 2 guys playing cartoons. I love it!!!
@poolplexer4 жыл бұрын
It's a good day to be an Ike main
@liamlocklear40525 жыл бұрын
Ryo will be proud
@akamarux755 жыл бұрын
Its a good day to be a braindead ike main.
@jacoryarnett73475 жыл бұрын
@@jacoryarnett7347 name one character that doesn't spam an attack in neutral. Don't worry, I'll wait.
@tylertanner58535 жыл бұрын
Tyler Tanner Little Mac
@Jonathan-A.C.5 жыл бұрын
Besides, it’s about the amount of active frames, (or invincibility frames in some cases), the move has, and if it can immediately combo into other shit. His Nair is wackdaddy
@Jonathan-A.C.5 жыл бұрын
so glad to see my main get used so well!!!
@flygonkerel7814 жыл бұрын
Man if Charizard gets a couple buffs to his neutral, Pokemon trainer is gunna be so amazing. And it's already such a fun character to watch. Imagine if the Charizard came out for more than just up smash! I want to see some sick combos like Leffens amazing edge guards with Squirtle/Ivy in this set!
@griffoncs64315 жыл бұрын
The fact that some people in the comments actually think that Ultimate Ike is anywhere close to being on par with Brawl Meta Knight due to one lousy move is just sad...
@Wizard_Lizard_5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the radiant dawn version but path of radiance is cool too
@BananabroJr5 жыл бұрын
Buenísima Leo, animo y éxito 😤
@jgilbertms80725 жыл бұрын
Something that i love of ssbu is that literally everyone is here including the best players from past games due to the Aumented complexity and speed
@santv61485 жыл бұрын
I give respect to leo... he is the only guy who doesn't spam nair. He uses his bairs and dairs very effectively. Everyone says that ike is his nair, but mkleo shows that ike is more than just nair all the time. Please quit blaming leo's win on "ikes nair" because leo didn't win just because ike is a good character. Leo won due to his smarts and skill. Leffen is a very good player and there is no way you could win by just simply spamming nair. Spamming nair isn't as good as you think it is lol.
@restfulsounds39925 жыл бұрын
As an Ike main (and nowhere near as good as these guys obviously), I tend to rarely use nair just because of the notion that it's become godlike. People like to account for it when they play you and it can lose its usefulness. You need to adapt, and Leo does that well.
@dasloco1215 жыл бұрын
@@dasloco121 I'm just shit at the game and can't use nair in battle effectively
@SomeRandomGuy-us1yb5 жыл бұрын
People complaining about Ike's nair are mostly poor players that don't understand how to punish it
@discountfunnyman5 жыл бұрын
8:01 did i just get gnomed?
@arbo16155 жыл бұрын
I grew up with smash 4 so when this ike pro main is "fighting for smash 4 honor" i want to thank him
@FairPlayClubChads Жыл бұрын
Leo had to teach Leffen some respect. He's looking at the king in his face.
@TheThugnificant5 жыл бұрын
You can feel this match same like watching Light vs Nike or Samsora vs Nike
@CaptainKnee5 жыл бұрын
if IKE's Nair is broken why aren't you in the tournament playing with him rn...
@dariusg70445 жыл бұрын
Because -people won't get the same results with Ike when compared to their current main and say that they don't need to use braindead and/or broken characters and/or moves as an excuse despite being terrible with their current main- some people actually have skill and don't need to use braindead and broken characters.
@nimroddafny71255 жыл бұрын
@@nimroddafny7125 so instead of getting thousands of dollars in tournament money you just say "I am too good to enter"? Nice.
@doubled64905 жыл бұрын
Either I don't understand this joke or you didn't understand my joke.
@nimroddafny71255 жыл бұрын
Nimrod Dafny the shots... Have been fired.
@tinyt.w.i.m72915 жыл бұрын
"why not play meta knight" "Why not bayo " "Why not ike" The money comes from this game being fun to watch The meta centralizing around one character kills the game Then the money stops because the game is dead
@drewsnider73525 жыл бұрын
Watching leffen play is so fucking exciting, please keep playing. So good
@VictorMartinez-lg3dx5 жыл бұрын
Even though leffen got knocked out, I’m so proud of him and his run... my god he’s talented.
@mikemccranie10925 жыл бұрын
Seeing Leffen lose does bring a smile to my face.
@dyllpickleproduces95883 жыл бұрын
why?
@Daniel-uy1sv3 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-uy1sv Probably because of the antics that surround Leffen. He's a good smash player, but his personality leaves a lot to be deserved. But you won't see that here.
@ResurgentRaven Жыл бұрын
I come back to this match whenever I watch a video of Leffen being cocky and want to see him get destroyed
@fullduck973 жыл бұрын
this is a pretty bad video to go to then, look at m2k's 6-0 vs leffen. leffen said he was two levels above m2k in mid 2015 (when leffen was best in the world), then mew2king destroyed him
@swank85083 жыл бұрын
8:35 was the biggest brain play ever. Leffen's applications of Squirtles water gun are amazing.
@OscarMartinez-xi7on5 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite sets
@AustinJP25 жыл бұрын
To everyone crying about Leo’s nair, Why can’t anybody else just pick up Ike and nair their way to top 8 if it’s that easy???
@Godlovesugly.5 жыл бұрын
Because people have dignity
@dez00025 жыл бұрын
@@dez0002 really? Is that your best answer?
@elote7515 жыл бұрын
@@dez0002 look I wanted Leffen to win but MKLEO outplayed him
@adang18275 жыл бұрын
I agree it takes skill to play ike ;)
@fallenchao5 жыл бұрын
Because people want to use characters that require skill unlike that brain dead garbage.
@pearlwhite56825 жыл бұрын
Leo needs to improve that eruption kill asap!
@MartinEscamilla19935 жыл бұрын
Glad to have the same main as a legend
@sams-yq6cc5 жыл бұрын
looking at this moment section... is leffen really the favorite? I like them both but as an Ike main since brawl, I'll always be rooting for mkleo
@myclips80595 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of Leffen, holy shit these matches were intense
@DarkThunderBud5 жыл бұрын
Leffens Squirtle is absolutely insane
@nicohfdc5 жыл бұрын
that tsm chant gave me goosebumps bro
@Subpar5 жыл бұрын
Leo had amazing movement around the razor leaf
@austinpowers36595 жыл бұрын
5:08 “Looks like Ivesaur is the weaker of the three!” Everyone now:🤦♂️🤦🤦♀️
@abrahamlincoln79074 жыл бұрын
@@AdamMarino101 squirtle is broken
@goldpower28784 жыл бұрын
Leffen took out Seagull Joe and Wadi and then put up a close fight against #2 seed and arguably the best player in the game.. once again, proving the horrible seeding wrong. Pls no more garbage seeding give him the bracket he deserves from now on.
@Eptic02275 жыл бұрын
You mean the easy bracket? So he can make it to finals avoiding all threats and people claim he is good? Lol the desperation is strong within you.
@Yokai_Yuri5 жыл бұрын
@@Yokai_Yuri do you understand how seeding works?.. top level players shouldn't play each other at such an early round. Did you watch MkLeos other games? Leffen was easily his toughest opponent on his way to top 8.
@Eptic02275 жыл бұрын
Wadi plays predictable so...
@legomasterchief2235 жыл бұрын
@@legomasterchief223 then you beat him
@japanrocksgousa5 жыл бұрын
@@Eptic0227 thing is, Leffen isn't a top player in this game..
@axeg4 жыл бұрын
DX上がりの人って攻め方とかが独特で好き。
@Ozi_i5 жыл бұрын
My top two favorite smashers going head to head was a lot to deal with. I need to sit down
@bakon3215 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember when Ike was 'top three'?
@donkeykong35084 жыл бұрын
Whoever the best player in the world plays is the best character in the game apparently
@Ewan-xw3er4 жыл бұрын
And people always said Ike was a bad and predictable character! :D
@cobrax2365 жыл бұрын
@Advance Tubberson l8 but wouldn't that just make Leffen a trash player? It's a fact that Ike's nair is easily whiff punishable, any good player should be able to read the matchup and force the Ike to shift strategies or lose. (Or maybe Leffen is an amazing player and MKLeo is just insane with any character he dedicates his time to, and this is bad logic)
@172rkgk3 жыл бұрын
Man, leffen game 2 was absolutely insane that one recover was giant brain
@groseclosegroseclose34554 жыл бұрын
The best match of G6.
@user-xz1te5og3d5 жыл бұрын
Leffen got naired
@Riversofash5 жыл бұрын
Aether Only because of MKLeo’s near flawless spacing.
@quantum66374 жыл бұрын
wow there was a LOT of people there
@EphYxRS5 жыл бұрын
Big tournament, lotta players too, probably biggest ultimate tournament so far
@Chadstrife225 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS happy to see Ike in a tournament, but to see Ike win? Priceless. Viva México y Viva Fire Emblem
@wassup9378 Жыл бұрын
¡Imaginemos cosas chingonas!
@BrandonOrtizCasas5 жыл бұрын
making ike mains proud thanks leo
@Musukoo5 жыл бұрын
uh burger what’s sad is we used to be humble lol
@tinyt.w.i.m72915 жыл бұрын
I seriously think that MKLeo is closest to being the best Smash Ultimate player.
@winschlati80335 жыл бұрын
Good call, turns out you were right
@MeinLink9 ай бұрын
He may have lost but Leffen really gunning hard to break that glass ceiling for Melee players to become Smash players
@jamessultan22525 жыл бұрын
Now this was a good game
@Dr.Alligator5 жыл бұрын
Back when we thought Ike was top tier
@Testify0872 жыл бұрын
As you can see clearly it is mkleo's character that carried his totally not like he is just the best player in the world
@tayoamusan47374 жыл бұрын
Yeetus Thatfeetus bruh
@doomsday84994 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh I get the joke now
@doomsday84994 жыл бұрын
what’s the first song on their first match on pokemon stadium 2? it’s too good
@kemuriii__5 жыл бұрын
"if u go right over his head and place a dair, it'll often end in death" predicting the future like waaatt
@CoachSamGlenn5 жыл бұрын
interesting how melee players can't really reach top rankings of ultimate and vice versa. Very different games, I wanna say that melee requires fast reaction-time whereas ultimate requires really hard reads on your opponent
@radhadman35683 жыл бұрын
Leffen definitely could have been in Ultimate if he kept playing but, he just didn't really want to. And, I think Leo could be a top 10 player in melee if that's what he decided to put his mind to, he's just too fucking good. Taking time to practice and learn melee is all he would have to do, he's already got that top player brain which, is the harder thing to learn of the 2.
@ChiodosBlowsDogs2 жыл бұрын
I knew he would take a game at least but not the set gg to Leffen though like I said before If Leffen gave all his time to Ultimate he could easily be a top 10 player
@ThatLazykid2545 жыл бұрын
12 hours a day seems pretty much like all of his time...
@Yokai_Yuri5 жыл бұрын
Damn I was rooting for Leffen to win, surprising for me to feel this way. I don't hate him, but I love see PT do well. He really needs to stay Squirtle in certain situations and then switch to Ivysaur instead of swtiching to Ivy anytime he needs to get the kill. Squirtle has good neutral options, mobility, good edge guarding tool in water gun and can set up tech chase situations that can lead to locks. We see him do it and he needs to rely on it more. He also needs to truly work on his Charizard more instead of just throwing out kill options, he should be great with all of them at the current moment. Leo was good at mixing things up while knowing his confirms.
“The only thing I’ve seen Leffen do with Charizard is either up smash or die” Gold
Leffen's Zard is actually ass
Captain Quickscope my man needs to train in the art of zard
Charizard isn’t that good anyways, squirtle and ivysaur are the ones making pokemon trainer a good character
Yeah that's the point. He takes out zard when he is about to die so that he can start off with squirtle and take advantage of the invcinbility frames
Andy mostly just ivysaur tbh
This game is already ten times more entertaining to watch than smash 4
This game is more entertaining than any other smash. Do not be afraid to say it. The only reason you think or see melee as good is because its loyal fanbase overhype the fuck out of it, attracting noobs and keeping the sheeps in check.
Omega Storm nice b8 m8
@@Yokai_Yuri life as a zoomer
@@Yokai_Yuri mate nah spacies matches are so fast there is nothing like it
Omega Storm this man is so salty
i come from the future to say it wasn't ike who was broken, it was leo all this time.
Ike was just fundamentally easy, this coming from an Ike main
Well, I thought that was obvious
@@literallyasneeze2135 I’m a Ike main as well and I can say he’s easy fundamentally
Yup
Foreal 🙏
8:57 that platform literally came outta nowhere just so leo could take that stock
Stage awareness 1000
@@sullivanish more like reaction
Leffen choked so hard, could have been a 3-0 with squirtle, a true goat should be dominant and consistent and playing well, not opponent choking
Or maybe by using a double jump, but who knows
I've gotta say Leffen is one of the most exciting players to watch. Some of the plays he makes are just insane. Hopefully he sticks with it, I think his ceiling is incredibly high in this game
Austin Wirtz and that's just his second tournament in ultimate
He's dropping pt for inkling I think :'(
@@alephbunchofnumbers is that true? As an inkling main that is *hype*
@@whong09 actually on second thoughts I might have spoken too soon. But yeah so far it seems like he intends to main inkling with wolf as a secondary. He's going kinda tryhard with inkling on stream right now and has nothing but good things to say about her/him. But again, this is like day 1 post tourney, so he has yet to properly try some other characters that has been recommended to him (e.g. roy, pikachu?)
@@alephbunchofnumbers Prob Young Link. He did say that he's interested in him.
*salem sweating in the crowd*
Leffen lost cause he wasn't a smash player.
That's not sweat, that's the research spitting on the competition through his face.
@Lost in Space or give him a few months and he'll be beating salem's ass. Stay mad.
Ultimate is hardly for casuals. Otherwise Melee players would be destroying everyone, but all the gods of melee are ranked in the 50s and 60s.
@@lolcatjunior let that joke die kid. On a side note he got surprisingly far.
5:40 was so good
"That was genius."
big leff turned into huge leff for a second
Ultra Instinct Leffen
8:27〜
That was the most hype moment I've seen in the whole tournament tbh
It's pathetic how people are getting salty about Ike's Nair when MkLeo is one of the very few who's dominating with the character. Try actually spamming nair all the time like you claim and see how far you go.
Ike's nair is a great spacing tool with nonexistent lag and huge hitbox, great combo tool that racks up quick damage, sets up to kill confirms like up air and bair. It does everything
@@pesky2119 It's also unsafe on block w/out spacing, very whiff punishable, and slow to come out (thus losing most air-to-air interactions against fast aerials). Spacing aerials is pretty much all Ike can do in neutral, and there's clear and consistent counterplay. To say that it's an oppressive option, comparable to Smash 4 Sheik fair, or Brawl MK Tornado, would be absurd. MKLeo wins because he's applying his fundamentals - which are the best in the game - to a character that relies and thrives on fundamentals. At the top level of play, landing a nair as Ike requires you to outplay at some level.
@@pesky2119 N-air is also highly parryable. There is no doubt about when it's coming to get you because it starts so high. The fairly probable mindset of "he's gonna nair cuz that's the best" also makes it very susceptible to predictions that are good against it. Ike also had a HIGHLY gimpable recovery (notice I say gimpable, not short. There's a difference), making his options go get back on stage questionable against good players (see everytime Leffen dairs Ike as example 1). Ike looks really good and simple with MKLeo cuz he's really fucking good and makes everything looks smooth. Kinda like Tweek with Wario. Stop overreacting. Stop oversimplifying. Ur acting like the type of people that hate Fox in melee. Just get better, it is possible.
The reason people are salty is because the Ike player just naired and grabbed. Leffen was actually zoning, making reads, edgeguarding, etc. And no the "durrr why don't you just play Ike" isn't an excuse. It doesn't magically change his nair from having no lag, it's just an appeal to accomplishment fallacy. Basically Leffen had to work 3 times harder than MKLeo for the same results. Nair just did basically all the work for him, it was low IQ with little effort vs big IQ and lots of effort.
@@CrimeShutter fucking lol
8:55 I appreciate the mention of the name of Ike's sword, Ragnell.
What’s this? A commentator being an actual FE fan and not just an awakening and fates dating simulator fan? Weird.
Biffyguy Biffy Awakening and Fates are still FE games. Keep being salty lol.
@@dittom3426 They are. And they're not bad games. But they're wildly over-exposed compared to the rest of the series. Some of us prefer other entries in the series. Not because they're older, but because we love the characters. It's like if every single Pokémon thing for the last five years was about Kalos and Alola, except different versions of Kalos and Alola that had none of the other Pokémon from the other regions. A lot of Pokémon fans would be sick of Kalos and Alola. It's the same with Fire Emblem. It's reasonable to be tired seeing the same characters over and over.
OrangeKyle91 That’s more understandable. As a Pokemon, we have the opposite problem, where everything is catered to the original games and the newer ones get crap.
@@dittom3426 Yeah, now that I think of it, that's a more accurate comparison. Awakening and Fates are the Pokémon Gen 1 of Fire Emblem in terms of over-exposure.
10:21 I got an ad right when MKLeo threw his up-air but right before I could tell if it connected or if he gave Leffen enough time to escape with down-b and they put me through so much suspense my heart was about to explode 😭
I was so mad they did that
I got an ad too lol
Same here
To be continued
Ne aswell
Chillindude just subbed to MKLeo.
Dude that's old beef, he and chillin r cool now. LeffvSalem's the hot topic rn lol
@Jericho Perez salem got salty at leff for calling snake sucko. Then he gets a PhD for being an a hole
@Jericho Perez Search up years of research.
@@skadi753 Pretty sure OP was joking
@@JoeDan54 ya ik, but im just saying the joke's kinda old but whatever.
amazing plays from both players! Just interesting that Leo never got a chance to punish any of those Ivysaur's ledge regrabs in this match.
Amosdoll Music hi I love your channel
Well he punished it once
Never thought I’d see you here. Love your content dude.
I think he tried to but I also think Leffen was trying to bait him in with it.
@@jesusteran8110 ig so. Impressive that he was so good even back then, and with Ike.
Big Leff putting up a good fight against one of the top seeds.
Fuk leffen..
@@robbiesarkioglu5623 fuk you
Emm Bee Sea Sad thing is, that wasn’t even Leos trump card character. He’s hiding a terrifying main out there
@@HatsuneInku Fuk u 2. Leffen is a scumbag
@@robbiesarkioglu5623 Keep hating, maybe someday someone will listen to you
Y'all saying ike is lame and braindead, go ahead and take him to quickplay, start spamming nairs, see how far that gets you. Drop GSP faster than Zimbabwe's economy
That flex on Zimbabwe's economy was not necessary
Yeah I don't play Ike but every time someone spams nairs with Ike I get the punish, so to see leffen unable to punish it at all makes me think with proper spacing it's actually really good. Definitely not brain dead otherwise he'd be getting punished for it.
That was unnecessary lol
A Name Yeah to a lot of people it just looks like pros are spamming it, when really they just use it more than other moves since it is a good combo starter. They use it a lot, but not so much that it’s too predictable and punishable.
I seeing 4 Ikes online today in quickplay spamming the same short hop Nair it is soo braindead for a character that have the safest move with less landing lag.
Shite. Was hype for the first few games, but Leffen lost it or Leo downloaded. Regardless, I HOPE Leffen continues to play Ultimate. He showed what he could do, and I hope he continues to do just that.
DeeCee 51 leffen is still in the tournament.....
@@G.dot_ he ded
He got sent to loser's, he can still win lol
Nope he's very out. He lost too Yeti's Megaman @@HatsuneInku
@@HatsuneInku he lost in losers aswell
MkLeo feels like a final boss
Rasta BananaMan that’s zero
Lowell Bevan Nah not anymore. ZeRo does not play this game as competitively as he did Smash 4
Angel Mendez-Rivera true but if you’ve seen zero vs Mkleo in ultimate zero won
@@angelmendez-rivera351 ZeRo's the hidden boss you get to after you 100% complete the rest of the game
Nah, he's right. It's mk as the final boss. Zero would be put to shame now. The one invitational tournament don't mean shit. Lotta people would smack down zero. Samsora, tweek, Ally, probably even void now.
That's the thing about MKLeo, and the main reason of he being my favorite player, he learns so damn fast, you can see this in almost every match up, the first couple of rounds he does okayish, and the he obliterates his opponents, he's a real prodigy, he learns patterns so fast and applies corrections on the go.
Reminds me of Zero's Diddy in sm4sh, except Zero would slow down as he learned and win off conditioning whereas Leo goes from 0-100 and obliterates his opponents.
yeah he learns how to spam aerials really well. such a hard thing to do. 300 IQ play right there
@@wallapee if he only spammed aereals he wouldn't be the number one player in the world hahahaha, why don't you just "spam aerials" like him and become the number one player in the world? You said it yourself is very easy, any person could do it.
@@HalXV Aerials*, why can nobody spell? And no thanks, I have a real job and I don't like this game enough to play it for more than an hour at a time. It's slow and incredibly repetitive. Sakurai would never make a smash game that can be played at a truly high competitive level on purpose, hence why melee is the only smash game that is fun to watch. He isn't the best player in the world either, game hasn't been out for long and lots of people haven't dedicated themselves to playing it. Leo has no other choice.
@@wallapee sure
6:30 my man in the back doing the dab
My man in the back doing the dab and shit
"doing the dab" oh nonnoonnnon ohhh nooooo
Cringe
MC Lion was Ike - and well, Leafy was Pokémon trainer.
@@Blue-jn1ph confirmed wavy
This video showed up in recommendations and i remember how everyone used to say Ike’s nair was broken, he was carried, etc etc yet nobody could achieve the same results, Leo’s gameplay combined with his game knowledge/understanding makes him who he is!
The entire stream chat during this was spamming “YO DID HE JUST SLOWLY WALK UP AND NAIR”
I'm so proud of both dudes, that had me on the edge of my seat!
The viewers and the crowd came alive this set. It was pure hype
Leffen with the "GALAXY BRAIN"
Yes, covering your recovery with projectiles is galaxy brain now. The future is now, old man.
Got him a little hyped up
These commentators were pretty much climbing over each other to ride leffen. The amount of bias in this match is unreal.
This tourney will always be memorable for me as the first big ultimate major and being the first tourney i got into as a smash fan
Still a fan all these years later?
@@remochovsky1056 yep and always will be
People can say what they want about Leo, but that combo off of dair at 8:59 was clean
Hey, to anyone complaining about Ike, don’t mistake “broken” for viable. I was an Ike main since Brawl and through smash 4. He’s my secondary now since Inkling made it in(my #2 most wanted character for Smash). When I mained Ike, I was well aware he was mid-low tier at best in previous games, but still had potential. He’s actually a good character now which makes me happy since my favorite FE lord. Even being good, he still has flaws: linear/exploitable recovery(even though it’s a solid recovery, it is predictable), weight(a lot of characters can combo him will since he doesn’t have a good escape move and weighs a lot), and lack of ability to handle projectiles well(seriously, how much did Leffen used razor leaf?). Ike is really good in this game, but he deserves to be. He was considered low/mid tier in the past, and dedicated Ike players can now have a taste of what it’s like to be viable. Even though I’d win locals with Ike in smash 4, it wasn’t brain dead. May I even add, it still isn’t brain dead.
Thank you! Everyone complaining about him being "broken" and stuff, like... then why isn't he dominating the scene? Why isn't he Brawl Meta Knighting it? Good Ike players are just good. It's that simple. They know how to play the fundamentals well. They read well. They have great instincts. Ike is easily exploitable, but their skills are honed. Get over it. Anyone saying he's "broken" or "braindead" is literally just making excuses, and they know it- and that's exactly why they're getting so salty from their own tears too much to realise they just need to get better at the game. Only scrubs and frustrated middle of the road players complain about this kind of stuff in the first place. Skilled players just deal with it and improve. If they get beaten, they take the beating and learn from it. They don't whine. I believe the phrase is... get good?
Who did you first want to be put in the game, before Inkling?
Sebastien Lessore at the time, I wanted Azura from FE: Fates, since she was one of the few Fire Emblem characters with unique moveset potential. She’s a mythical songstress who wields a lance, and she has a lot of similar qualities to that of a water bender. I think she was a better pick than Corrin imo. At this point though, I’m kinda done with FE characters for this game. Now I kinda just want more games represented in smash.
This was the greatest thing to watch. This smash game really is for sure what the community needs. #oneunit
How beautiful that the 7th best penguin could make it this far
7th best penguin turned into one of the best penguins lol.
He's a toadally awesome penguin
The Ike player is also playing well. He short hopped over low tilt attacks, behind Ivysaurs whips, he blocked stuff well, recovered nicely, etc. It was a fun game to watch.
"The ike player" I can tell you're either a melee player or new
“The Ike player” Dude its Mkleo...
Dayum, that was like an anime fight choreography. Leo really picked up on that last match too. You could see his reaction times grow over the set especially that last match, he was getting that adrenaline rush for sure.
this was so hype live
やっぱ上手い人はほんとに上手いんだなって思いました………すごく見応えのあるバトルですね👍👍👍
I don't get why people are complaining about ike's neutral air hitbox when ivysaur has a giant down air and up air. They're both good characters
People just to like to claim Ike does nothing but Nair while every other character has an attack that they spam in neutral. Leffen just spams razor leaf in neutral, gets punished for it and leo is the spammer.
His range is way too big and he has huge hit boxes for his speed. Ivysaur is slow AF
You’re joking, right? Ike’s neutral air covers his entire body and over prioritizes any move, and leads directly into kill moves. Everyone loves defending these overpowered Fire Emblem characters with their disjointed hit boxes and ridiculous priority.
Ike's nair is pretty dumb dude It's too make up for his lack of speed overall
Ivy's d-air and u-air are NOT comparable to Ike's n-air at all LOL. I say this as an Ike main. It's a pretty dumb move.
Man Leffen used to be good enough to touch Leo. Now he whines about bowser for 2 hours.
This is the most entertaining match I’ve watched in Ultimate so far.
This was such an amazing set
Now imagine Leffen vs Salem in losers.
Call the cops ;)
salem aint in losers tho is he?
He was. Salem lost to Captain Zack
@@TheTdbj HA! Shoulda been practicing instead of researching melee
@@HatsuneInku he still placed higher than leffen
I absolutely love Ike's moves in Ultimate.
Gonna be real Max has really upped his commentary over the years. Mad respect man.
Amazing! Some more practice on the PT secondaries and Leffen will be DANGEROUS for everyone. 🎈
looking back on it. there really was nothing special about leo's ike, rather he was just consistently doing the right thing in situations
Ike's nair is such a consistent kill confirm. Comobing into up air at such high percents is so powerful
Damn leffen couldve had this if he didnt swap ivy so much, I think all the stocks he lost were ivy
Yea but I don't think he has much experience with skilled Ikes. And MkLeo is just MkLeo.
Problem is ivy is the best of the three and if you can’t get much going then it’ll slowly crumble. Once MkLeo downloaded ivy it was all over.
He switched to ivy cause squirtle doesnt have good kill options and charizard is very unsafe. Ivy has many good kill options and zoning plus nair is preety good. But ike nair lmao
@@xStealthPigeon Most of the times he got a kill was when he got leo off stage with squirtle and then switched to ivy to finish the edgeguard. But most of the times he switched to ivy in neutral he just got blown up.
@@xStealthPigeon Leff is used to swapping to ivy past 40% and then charizard above 100%, but in this case his ivy was getting out-zoned/comboed by Ike and he had a lot better success with Squirtle getting the % up because he's faster, smaller hitbox, and lighter making it harder to combo.
its matches like this that make you wanna fly out to Genesis and watch them with the crowd
Didn't even know leffen played ultimate at all lol that's crazy
All the pro melee players did when it first dropped. M2K leffen armada mango leffen etc
MKLeo's Ike over here lookin like Ken's Marth in the old days
This comment section has more salt than the Dead Sea.
Indeed, it seems they've lost to a ton of Ike players.
Ok wow I have never felt the urge to watch a match again but here we go THANKS LEFFEN
bruh I still watch this set to this day
wow look at the crowd for 2 guys playing cartoons. I love it!!!
It's a good day to be an Ike main
Ryo will be proud
Its a good day to be a braindead ike main.
@@jacoryarnett7347 name one character that doesn't spam an attack in neutral. Don't worry, I'll wait.
Tyler Tanner Little Mac
Besides, it’s about the amount of active frames, (or invincibility frames in some cases), the move has, and if it can immediately combo into other shit. His Nair is wackdaddy
so glad to see my main get used so well!!!
Man if Charizard gets a couple buffs to his neutral, Pokemon trainer is gunna be so amazing. And it's already such a fun character to watch. Imagine if the Charizard came out for more than just up smash! I want to see some sick combos like Leffens amazing edge guards with Squirtle/Ivy in this set!
The fact that some people in the comments actually think that Ultimate Ike is anywhere close to being on par with Brawl Meta Knight due to one lousy move is just sad...
I prefer the radiant dawn version but path of radiance is cool too
Buenísima Leo, animo y éxito 😤
Something that i love of ssbu is that literally everyone is here including the best players from past games due to the Aumented complexity and speed
I give respect to leo... he is the only guy who doesn't spam nair. He uses his bairs and dairs very effectively. Everyone says that ike is his nair, but mkleo shows that ike is more than just nair all the time. Please quit blaming leo's win on "ikes nair" because leo didn't win just because ike is a good character. Leo won due to his smarts and skill. Leffen is a very good player and there is no way you could win by just simply spamming nair. Spamming nair isn't as good as you think it is lol.
As an Ike main (and nowhere near as good as these guys obviously), I tend to rarely use nair just because of the notion that it's become godlike. People like to account for it when they play you and it can lose its usefulness. You need to adapt, and Leo does that well.
@@dasloco121 I'm just shit at the game and can't use nair in battle effectively
People complaining about Ike's nair are mostly poor players that don't understand how to punish it
8:01 did i just get gnomed?
I grew up with smash 4 so when this ike pro main is "fighting for smash 4 honor" i want to thank him
Leo had to teach Leffen some respect. He's looking at the king in his face.
You can feel this match same like watching Light vs Nike or Samsora vs Nike
if IKE's Nair is broken why aren't you in the tournament playing with him rn...
Because -people won't get the same results with Ike when compared to their current main and say that they don't need to use braindead and/or broken characters and/or moves as an excuse despite being terrible with their current main- some people actually have skill and don't need to use braindead and broken characters.
@@nimroddafny7125 so instead of getting thousands of dollars in tournament money you just say "I am too good to enter"? Nice.
Either I don't understand this joke or you didn't understand my joke.
Nimrod Dafny the shots... Have been fired.
"why not play meta knight" "Why not bayo " "Why not ike" The money comes from this game being fun to watch The meta centralizing around one character kills the game Then the money stops because the game is dead
Watching leffen play is so fucking exciting, please keep playing. So good
Even though leffen got knocked out, I’m so proud of him and his run... my god he’s talented.
Seeing Leffen lose does bring a smile to my face.
why?
@@Daniel-uy1sv Probably because of the antics that surround Leffen. He's a good smash player, but his personality leaves a lot to be deserved. But you won't see that here.
I come back to this match whenever I watch a video of Leffen being cocky and want to see him get destroyed
this is a pretty bad video to go to then, look at m2k's 6-0 vs leffen. leffen said he was two levels above m2k in mid 2015 (when leffen was best in the world), then mew2king destroyed him
8:35 was the biggest brain play ever. Leffen's applications of Squirtles water gun are amazing.
One of my favorite sets
To everyone crying about Leo’s nair, Why can’t anybody else just pick up Ike and nair their way to top 8 if it’s that easy???
Because people have dignity
@@dez0002 really? Is that your best answer?
@@dez0002 look I wanted Leffen to win but MKLEO outplayed him
I agree it takes skill to play ike ;)
Because people want to use characters that require skill unlike that brain dead garbage.
Leo needs to improve that eruption kill asap!
Glad to have the same main as a legend
looking at this moment section... is leffen really the favorite? I like them both but as an Ike main since brawl, I'll always be rooting for mkleo
I'm so proud of Leffen, holy shit these matches were intense
Leffens Squirtle is absolutely insane
that tsm chant gave me goosebumps bro
Leo had amazing movement around the razor leaf
5:08 “Looks like Ivesaur is the weaker of the three!” Everyone now:🤦♂️🤦🤦♀️
@@AdamMarino101 squirtle is broken
Leffen took out Seagull Joe and Wadi and then put up a close fight against #2 seed and arguably the best player in the game.. once again, proving the horrible seeding wrong. Pls no more garbage seeding give him the bracket he deserves from now on.
You mean the easy bracket? So he can make it to finals avoiding all threats and people claim he is good? Lol the desperation is strong within you.
@@Yokai_Yuri do you understand how seeding works?.. top level players shouldn't play each other at such an early round. Did you watch MkLeos other games? Leffen was easily his toughest opponent on his way to top 8.
Wadi plays predictable so...
@@legomasterchief223 then you beat him
@@Eptic0227 thing is, Leffen isn't a top player in this game..
DX上がりの人って攻め方とかが独特で好き。
My top two favorite smashers going head to head was a lot to deal with. I need to sit down
Anyone remember when Ike was 'top three'?
Whoever the best player in the world plays is the best character in the game apparently
And people always said Ike was a bad and predictable character! :D
@Advance Tubberson l8 but wouldn't that just make Leffen a trash player? It's a fact that Ike's nair is easily whiff punishable, any good player should be able to read the matchup and force the Ike to shift strategies or lose. (Or maybe Leffen is an amazing player and MKLeo is just insane with any character he dedicates his time to, and this is bad logic)
Man, leffen game 2 was absolutely insane that one recover was giant brain
The best match of G6.
Leffen got naired
Aether Only because of MKLeo’s near flawless spacing.
wow there was a LOT of people there
Big tournament, lotta players too, probably biggest ultimate tournament so far
ALWAYS happy to see Ike in a tournament, but to see Ike win? Priceless. Viva México y Viva Fire Emblem
¡Imaginemos cosas chingonas!
making ike mains proud thanks leo
uh burger what’s sad is we used to be humble lol
I seriously think that MKLeo is closest to being the best Smash Ultimate player.
Good call, turns out you were right
He may have lost but Leffen really gunning hard to break that glass ceiling for Melee players to become Smash players
Now this was a good game
Back when we thought Ike was top tier
As you can see clearly it is mkleo's character that carried his totally not like he is just the best player in the world
Yeetus Thatfeetus bruh
Ohhhhh I get the joke now
what’s the first song on their first match on pokemon stadium 2? it’s too good
"if u go right over his head and place a dair, it'll often end in death" predicting the future like waaatt
interesting how melee players can't really reach top rankings of ultimate and vice versa. Very different games, I wanna say that melee requires fast reaction-time whereas ultimate requires really hard reads on your opponent
Leffen definitely could have been in Ultimate if he kept playing but, he just didn't really want to. And, I think Leo could be a top 10 player in melee if that's what he decided to put his mind to, he's just too fucking good. Taking time to practice and learn melee is all he would have to do, he's already got that top player brain which, is the harder thing to learn of the 2.
I knew he would take a game at least but not the set gg to Leffen though like I said before If Leffen gave all his time to Ultimate he could easily be a top 10 player
12 hours a day seems pretty much like all of his time...
Damn I was rooting for Leffen to win, surprising for me to feel this way. I don't hate him, but I love see PT do well. He really needs to stay Squirtle in certain situations and then switch to Ivysaur instead of swtiching to Ivy anytime he needs to get the kill. Squirtle has good neutral options, mobility, good edge guarding tool in water gun and can set up tech chase situations that can lead to locks. We see him do it and he needs to rely on it more. He also needs to truly work on his Charizard more instead of just throwing out kill options, he should be great with all of them at the current moment. Leo was good at mixing things up while knowing his confirms.
Seeing an Ike player makes me happy