Shiny Pokemon Give You An Advantage In Battles... Here's Why.

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  • "I don’t know if Greninja is Protean or Battle Bond until I watch inside the box." "I run Torrent." "Shut up."

    @MarshtompGames@MarshtompGames2 ай бұрын
    • Schrodinger's greninja

      @dedd2981@dedd29812 ай бұрын
    • @@dedd2981 Schrodinja

      @kubix426@kubix4262 ай бұрын
    • ​@@kubix426schrodingle

      @amistupid3175@amistupid31752 ай бұрын
    • word lol

      @vanesslifeygo@vanesslifeygo2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@kubix426nah bro schrodinja runs wonder guard

      @Bruh_idk69lul@Bruh_idk69lulАй бұрын
  • You also don't want to run shiny treasures of ruin or any of the Gen 9 legendaries, that will get you disqualified

    @jurischwarzer9877@jurischwarzer98772 ай бұрын
    • I’ve heard Meloetta also gets you disqualified

      @badashe1364@badashe13642 ай бұрын
    • Because that would be hacking lmao

      @user-ye2gv1xy9q@user-ye2gv1xy9q2 ай бұрын
    • @@badashe1364you can’t use it

      @user-ye2gv1xy9q@user-ye2gv1xy9q2 ай бұрын
    • @@user-ye2gv1xy9qthat’s the joke

      @okami_6@okami_62 ай бұрын
    • @@user-ye2gv1xy9qyou know they’re joking right?

      @latbil@latbil2 ай бұрын
  • I remember another thing about Ash-Greninja: It was always set to be male, so if your opponent sent out a female Greninja, you'd know it couldn't be Ash-Greninja

    @anglure3617@anglure36172 ай бұрын
    • I always wondered why but my theory is when it changes it’s form it’s called ash greninja probably bc it’s ash’s name in it and ash is a boy but this theory doesn’t make sense at all so😭.

      @yoptrippin@yoptrippin2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@yoptrippinI'm pretty sure it's because it's literally Ash's Greninja and Ash's Greninja is male

      @packyp3836@packyp38362 ай бұрын
    • ​@@packyp3836 also Im pretty sure all battle bond Greninja is from a gift and the ones thats given is male only. So basically it's the same thing as shiny gen 9 legendary. Hacked pokemon being not eligible.

      @cracuss31n52@cracuss31n522 ай бұрын
    • @@packyp3836 yea makes much more sense tbh

      @yoptrippin@yoptrippin2 ай бұрын
    • "Gender gives you an advantage in battles... here's why."

      @ellisfrancisfarros3935@ellisfrancisfarros39352 ай бұрын
  • _"imagine this is anything that isn't a level 4 Rattata"_ Imagine a level 3 Rattata, got it

    @risel56@risel562 ай бұрын
    • FEAR teams go brrrr

      @novastar6112@novastar6112Ай бұрын
    • Lvl 100 rattata

      @waterslime9506@waterslime950613 күн бұрын
  • Shout outs to Gen 5 VGC, where everyone ran definitely legitimate shiny Pokemon who also just so happened to have perfect IV's and optimal natures in the era before bottle caps and nature mints.

    @CommanderWiggins@CommanderWiggins2 ай бұрын
    • What are the odds?

      @Zython11@Zython112 ай бұрын
    • Also with the pokestar effect for more stalling

      @PlushPilla@PlushPilla2 ай бұрын
    • @@PlushPilla There was no point stalling in Gen 5, the timer didn't exist yet.

      @AztecCroc@AztecCroc2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@AztecCrocand even if there was a timer it wouldn't matter because the pokestar effect replaces the shiny effect

      @DanielPereira-ey9nt@DanielPereira-ey9nt2 ай бұрын
    • I am of the opinion that hacking in a mon is okay if it can be obtained without hacking Not everyone can play pokemon as a full-time job

      @DanielPereira-ey9nt@DanielPereira-ey9nt2 ай бұрын
  • I mean if you selectively breed a Pokémon thousands of time just to get funky colors i would think that the stats at least good

    @HeliumHasPassed@HeliumHasPassed2 ай бұрын
    • Whatever sickos breeds pokemon from the same family should be ashamed, or running a poke-mill to generate eggs. You need to source your competitive fighting pets from only ethical breeders or else you'll end up with a shelder that looks like the one on slowbro. Why else do you think it looks like that?

      @BigDeetz@BigDeetz2 ай бұрын
    • Bruh just hack this game is ridiculously stupid when building teams

      @eli2210@eli22102 ай бұрын
    • The shit is something I wouldn't be surprised if it from PeTA.​@@BigDeetz

      @hailthequeenFM@hailthequeenFM2 ай бұрын
    • @eli2210 it's a lot easier now too, which is the funny thing. A good video could be the most ridiculous competitive pokemon to get of all time. Immediately, I think of mew, deoxys, celebi, and Jirachi, which were so mythical at the time some kids didn't even know they were legitimately in the game

      @BigDeetz@BigDeetz2 ай бұрын
    • The key point here is that shiny hunting is completely optional, the game does not require you to have a FULL ON shiny competitive team, its purely aesthetic with some niche advantage here and there.

      @_friedtofu@_friedtofu2 ай бұрын
  • Shiny hunting Tatsugiri is like hell, especially when you have to squint your eyes everytime you see one to see if it's shiny. Personally I don't think it would be worth it

    @mr.punisher5100@mr.punisher51002 ай бұрын
    • Just breed it

      @TheForgidbearbackers@TheForgidbearbackers2 ай бұрын
    • @@TheForgidbearbackers 🤯

      @mr.punisher5100@mr.punisher51002 ай бұрын
    • I guess hunting for the orange one would be hard, but if you hunt in outbreakes (each form gets a unique outbreak to them) then the pink and yellow tatsus should be easy. an orange one between yellows should be the shiny, and pink is more obvious with its shiny being white

      @omarjimenez6861@omarjimenez68612 ай бұрын
    • And if you’re going for a wild one, they can sometimes carry Memento

      @The_Legendary_Nic@The_Legendary_Nic2 ай бұрын
    • @@TheForgidbearbackers 🤯

      @mr.punisher5100@mr.punisher51002 ай бұрын
  • Fun fact: due to a programming oversight in Pokémon Colloseum, it is possible for your shadow Pokémon to become shiny after you catch as the mons OT number would be overwritten by the player's OT number. While it was fixed in XD Gales of Darkness, it's still a fun tidbit

    @giovannirocket9954@giovannirocket99542 ай бұрын
    • Not quite right. As I've come to know it the reason shadow pokemon "become shiny" in colo is because the PID/SID for enemy trainers is used in battle versus the player PID/SID. Once captured and the PID/SID of the player will apply and will reveal the pokemon to be shiny. I believe it is possible to encounter a shiny pokemon on the enemy's side on colo and when caught it will not be shiny for the same reason, but I am unsure.

      @mysterymann4225@mysterymann42252 ай бұрын
    • @@mysterymann4225you can catch shiny pokemon in colloseum. you are correct that the trainers shiny and the player's catch shiny are different roles, so if you catch a shiny, it wont be shiny after you catch it, but there is a shiny role for the player catching a pokemon, so you can only see if a pokemon is shiny after you capture it, but you can very much get shiny pokemon in colo. someone did a whole challenge run on youtube to get every shiny in the game, lots of rng manipulation

      @videogamesarecool9280@videogamesarecool9280Ай бұрын
  • 9:15 Oddly enough, it was possible to get shiny shadow pokemon in Collosseum and is why they are used for the All ribbon challenge

    @wellywell1064@wellywell10642 ай бұрын
    • In Colosseum shadow Pokemon are the only Pokemon that aren't shiny locked and it's the other way around in XD.

      @bubs4581@bubs45812 ай бұрын
    • When they made Colosseum they made the Shadow Pokemon's ID numbers random, so if they matched the enemy trainer they could be shiny then. The problem was that they also needed to match the player's own numbers or else theyd go back to being not shiny. By XD they wrote in code to shiny lock them.

      @GamingEelektross@GamingEelektross2 ай бұрын
    • @@GamingEelektross False, actually, but a very popular rumor. In order to be shiny the pokemon needs to match your ID, but due to a bugged shiny lock it reads the enemy trainer's ID and will not appear to be shiny in your first battle. You must catch it to reveal its shiny-ness, and if it was shiny it will sparkle on a rematch battle, though by that point its stats and shiny-ness are locked in. There is no chance of a shiny pokemon becoming non-shiny, unless you are the demonstration battle Hitmontop, as its stats are re-rolled after said demonstration battle. There are a nice collection of shiny hunters who have videos up on this, nowadays. In XD, the shiny lock was fixed, and there are no shadow shines.

      @s.p.pennlight7299@s.p.pennlight72992 ай бұрын
    • @@s.p.pennlight7299 A little bit of wrong info there too. Hitmontop's first fight always counts as a rematch, their stats are always generated in the fight against Pikachu. Also, in a rematch, the game takes the enemy trainer's ID to see if it's shiny or not, but only while it's in their posession, so a Shadow Pokemon that isn't shiny for you can be shiny for the enemy oponent in any subsequent rematch.

      @saxor96@saxor96Ай бұрын
    • Funny story about shinies in coliseum, I actually got a shiny sunflora not knowing why mine was orange. I thought it was wilted so I sent it out in the rain to see if that changed anything 😂

      @TSfish94@TSfish9418 күн бұрын
  • Before I even watch gonna guess: Stall teams, shiny sparkles taking up time, HP left.

    @vinny4765@vinny47652 ай бұрын
    • That was my guess, too, which is why I didn't bother with the video initially. Then they brought up bluffing event 'mons so you can pretend like you have a certain moveset/nature and that was actually a really good point.

      @sylvrwolflol@sylvrwolflolАй бұрын
  • Everyone knows you run Celebrate Vaporeon to run out the clock

    @butlershurk7227@butlershurk72272 ай бұрын
    • Did you know?

      @blockchicken8052@blockchicken80522 ай бұрын
    • 😢

      @nightdazernoneya7993@nightdazernoneya79932 ай бұрын
    • ​@@blockchicken8052know what?

      @DishyLemon@DishyLemon2 ай бұрын
    • “celebrate”

      @hash8169@hash81692 ай бұрын
    • Pokemon fans try not to reference pokephilia challenge. (IMPOSSIBLE)

      @cadetjones9205@cadetjones92052 ай бұрын
  • 10:17 whoa who's that haha

    @ElectricWindGirlFriend@ElectricWindGirlFriend2 ай бұрын
  • "They must have amnesia, they forgot that I'm shiny locked"

    @nathaniel5157@nathaniel51572 ай бұрын
    • A +2 in Sp. Defense.

      @E-102GammaMKII@E-102GammaMKII2 ай бұрын
    • This shine ain't nothing to me 'mon

      @itsyaboychipsahoy.7989@itsyaboychipsahoy.79892 ай бұрын
    • @@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 I'm a dog. I'm BITEing the psychic types in the bath.

      @nathaniel5157@nathaniel51572 ай бұрын
    • Ballin so hard they thought I was a voltorb.

      @vla1ne@vla1ne2 ай бұрын
    • Flipped a whole naclstack into a garganacl

      @nathaniel5157@nathaniel51572 ай бұрын
  • "Jealous" As if 99 times out of 100 that team isnt entirely genned

    @kvltofsobek90@kvltofsobek902 ай бұрын
    • I knew that opener would russle some feathers

      @MoxieBoosted@MoxieBoosted2 ай бұрын
    • People would think my teams are fake but they just cant comprehend someone putting work into them

      @Sovereign_Star@Sovereign_Star2 ай бұрын
    • @@Sovereign_StarThis is code for “sweatshop,” right?

      @kamijk@kamijk2 ай бұрын
    • I've been working on my shiny mons for over a decade 😭

      @caseydewitt6236@caseydewitt62362 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Sovereign_Starit's a hard job. One that you'll only need to do at most 3 times per pokemon.

      @DarkDodgers@DarkDodgers2 ай бұрын
  • Shiny galar birds (except zapdos) is comedy gold if it somehow works

    @Ghostmnm@Ghostmnm2 ай бұрын
    • I've seen shiny Galar Moltress troll TF out of people on showdown.

      @WhermstDidIAsk@WhermstDidIAsk2 ай бұрын
  • Btw did you know that greninja cant have battle bond if shiny?

    @mordecoolbluejay@mordecoolbluejay2 ай бұрын
    • It can't be female too, that means Greninja is unviable if it's black or a woman

      @TheOlSlacker@TheOlSlacker2 ай бұрын
    • @@TheOlSlacker 💀

      @alienxotic5028@alienxotic50282 ай бұрын
    • brooooooooooooooooooooooo@@TheOlSlacker

      @creatingvideostobreakmyspe6049@creatingvideostobreakmyspe60492 ай бұрын
    • @@TheOlSlackerYes hello IGN? Boy do I have an article for you...

      @sylvrwolflol@sylvrwolflolАй бұрын
  • I think that everyone should run shinys so that they can be distributed

    @AevitosTrath@AevitosTrath2 ай бұрын
    • People just hack them in anyway

      @user-ye2gv1xy9q@user-ye2gv1xy9q2 ай бұрын
    • ​@user-ye2gv1xy9q That's not really the point.

      @randomviewer396@randomviewer396Ай бұрын
  • For Gyarados, there were other ways of getting Bounce. In Platinum, Gyarados and Magikarp could learn it via move tutor, Magikarp could get it from the Pokewalker in Gen IV and Dream World in Gen V.

    @TheAweDude1@TheAweDude12 ай бұрын
    • VGC doesnt allow transfer moves

      @MoxieBoosted@MoxieBoosted2 ай бұрын
    • It's also a Tutor Move in ORAS and USUM.@@MoxieBoosted

      @rjd-kh8et@rjd-kh8et2 ай бұрын
  • Fun part of using full shinies is I assume my opponents just think im using hacked mons and don’t know how to play. Especially on casual lololol ^^’

    @totallynotademon...6929@totallynotademon...69292 ай бұрын
    • Same 😂😂 and I even go the extra detail for apriball shinies but theyre all legit. Perks of being a vgc exclusive shiny hunter, no time sunk on a living dex just boxes of battle ready shinies

      @1_KingDom@1_KingDom2 ай бұрын
    • “You’re using hacked mons! You should be banned!” My brother in christ, I like the color palette

      @theman6422@theman64222 ай бұрын
  • You could tell if the shiny beast doesn't have event moves if it's not in a Cherish Ball in later generations

    @SirToastyToes@SirToastyToes2 ай бұрын
  • surprised you didn't mention that in gen 2 because of the way shinies are generated shinies are usually if not always worse than the standard counterpart

    @thatflareon@thatflareon2 ай бұрын
    • thats bc theres no vgc in gen 2

      @PrismaAce@PrismaAce2 ай бұрын
    • I love your PFP haha

      @toastymann5865@toastymann58652 ай бұрын
  • the advantage shinies give is that they Look Cool and therefor I Hit Harder for real though thats super cool something thats just cosmetic does have that small upper hand (or detriment) to em in high comp play

    @sapphiix@sapphiix2 ай бұрын
    • This man must be an Ork player

      @groudonmario@groudonmario2 ай бұрын
  • I paid to be in the outro and it was worth it. Jokes aside, i love your essay content and am so glad my contribution helps you out and all the content i love. Keep it up man!

    @jaesundahlke6082@jaesundahlke60822 ай бұрын
  • So you're saying that Greninja would not be optimal if it was black or a woman

    @Cleffr@Cleffr2 ай бұрын
    • Just like real life

      @BenjaminAnderson-zp1ex@BenjaminAnderson-zp1ex17 күн бұрын
  • Listening to you talk about niche Pokémon VGC facts while the logic theme from persona 4 plays is uniquely entertaining; big fan of this style of content

    @twosoup3252@twosoup32522 ай бұрын
  • One I remember from reading a smogon analysis is that Genescect must always be shiny. An event distributed a shiny Genescect with shift gear, a potent boosting move. This was good enough set to even be part of one of the recommended sets, as opposed to a choice scarf set which operates entirely differently (boosing sweeper vs momentum pivot), making this one of the most important mons to have as a shiny (outside Greninja, of course).

    @gengarisnotinsmash...@gengarisnotinsmash...Ай бұрын
  • Shiny rayquaza was unable to have V-Create, that’s the only other example I can think of

    @wyattstout342@wyattstout3422 ай бұрын
  • Ah, Pokemon mind games. Will never forget the first time my best friend hit my Mega Venusaur with a fire attack. It has Thick Fat but still pops up that "it's super effective!"

    @adamabou-nasr1130@adamabou-nasr11302 ай бұрын
  • love this channel. ever since i subscribed i grew to 6'2

    @SpooxyCowboy1911@SpooxyCowboy19112 ай бұрын
    • I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess

      @MoxieBoosted@MoxieBoosted2 ай бұрын
    • I went from 2” to 6’2 as well! Oh and I guess I grew taller too

      @Agent-iq3sz@Agent-iq3sz2 ай бұрын
  • I love that you popped off, I’ve been here since you had like 3k viewers per video. It’s great content and I’m glad you’ve had success!

    @floaterhill1848@floaterhill18482 ай бұрын
  • Good thing nature mints let us use shiny koko. Still mad that the removal of transfer moves means heatran lost eruption. Just one gen after it could run it with a timid nature too.

    @gregorymirabella1423@gregorymirabella14232 ай бұрын
  • For the gen 2 trio in gen 4 singles, there is an important note you glanced over. The shiny optimization for Suicune and Raikou (and Entei if you don't want adamant nature) have suboptimal fixed natures. Suicune has relaxed (negative speed) and Raikou has Rash (negative sp. def). So if you want to bluff Aura Sphere Raikou, you have to run rash nature instead of something like timid/modest. The reason for this is that the trio were only given out in a Cherish Ball. There are no legitimate ways of getting a shiny non-rash Raikou in a cherish ball in gen 4. In the games you can see what type of pokeball your opponent uses for each Pokemon. So for VGC you have to run rash Raikou to bluff Aura Sphere. But the issue is that Smogon (primary place for gen 4 singles) does not show the ball of the opponent's Pokemon. This is a problem because it means you can run a shiny Timid Raikou to bluff Aura Sphere and it is indistinguishable from an event shiny rash Raikou. This means in singles, there is a FALSE OPTIMIZATION. This optimization is still a thing but it is a weaker optimization. In the real games you can use a shiny Raikou to bluff Aura Sphere but it MUST BE RASH. In smogon singles, you can run a shiny Raikou with any nature to bluff Aura Sphere. This is an important distinction that must be made because currently Smogon allows an optimization that does not exist in the real games.

    @OsirusIrdia@OsirusIrdia2 ай бұрын
  • Moxie I like that you acknowledge the existence of Smogon despite being primarily a VGC player. Unlike someone else that pretends it doesn’t exist and is inconsequential because it’s not “official” despite having millions of games every month

    @Count_Istvan_Teleky@Count_Istvan_Teleky2 ай бұрын
    • I honestly can't think of any vgc players that don't also play smogon tbh. So I got no clue who you're referring to

      @MoxieBoosted@MoxieBoosted2 ай бұрын
  • 7:36 I mean, to be fair, he also has a Charizard Y on the table

    @murkrowyeet8484@murkrowyeet8484Ай бұрын
  • another one that didn't get mentioned was shiny genesect which released through an event with blaze kick and extreme speed which weren't available to genesect otherwise (blaze kick later became available to all genesect in generation 8)

    @yech3461@yech34612 ай бұрын
    • Mythical Pokémon usually aren't allowed in VGC

      @enoyna1001@enoyna10012 ай бұрын
  • No way, Ranger contributing to one (1) Pokemon's viability. This is why Shadows of Almia is truly the GOAT

    @Iris_Descent@Iris_Descent2 ай бұрын
  • 0:51 Poor Gengar. He deserves a better shiny color.

    @SeonilKim-ry5lj@SeonilKim-ry5lj2 ай бұрын
    • At least the mega form looks awesome and is getting it back.

      @AxisChurchDevotee@AxisChurchDevotee2 ай бұрын
    • Actually the shiny colour is great, the issue is that the non shiny colour got so desaturated in 3D that they now look so similar. If regular Gengar would still have this popping purple then it would be an insane shiny

      @looksfineforme9471@looksfineforme94712 ай бұрын
  • In a some similar way, Zeraora normally wasn't used in his shiny form, due to it being only obtainable in Gen 9, so it couldn't have the tutor move Knock Off, something that a Gen 8 Zeraora could have

    @carlosgonzalezvega3294@carlosgonzalezvega32942 ай бұрын
    • Uhh… last time Zeraora shiny was obtainable was in 2020, through a Home distribution from a raid battle event. That was in Sword and Shield. Besides, Zeraora is unavailable in Scarlet/Violet and can't be transferred to them either. It can literally only be used in Gen 7 and 8

      @ZhadTheRad@ZhadTheRad28 күн бұрын
  • About the Johto beasts and shiny Gyarados if you pay attention to the ball animation when it’s sent you could immediately tell if it an event one even if shiny because they were all distributed in Cherish Balls.

    @emeraldl1on@emeraldl1on2 ай бұрын
  • For ones like the shiny legendary beasts or the shiny gyarados, you can't actually use just any shiny, it has to be another event one, as they'll be in the event exclusive cherish ball, if they are in any other ball you know for sure it's not those specific events Just thought I'd mention it

    @luigiopaf9994@luigiopaf99942 ай бұрын
  • Babe wake up new vid goes hard

    @cbuttyvgc@cbuttyvgc2 ай бұрын
  • Shiny moxieboosted is a really pretty pink I saw it with my own eyes once

    @atrixmj@atrixmj2 ай бұрын
  • Bounce Magikarp was also obtainable on the Winner's Path on the PokeWalker. It has a bunch of other special pokemon, but sadly was also only distributed through an event.

    @ZakZwald@ZakZwaldАй бұрын
  • Gyarados has been able to learn Bounce via Move Tutor since Gen IV, so I don't see how that event distribution changed anything.

    @rjd-kh8et@rjd-kh8et2 ай бұрын
    • Transfer moves aren't allowed in vgc that's why

      @SlashDeath9990@SlashDeath9990Ай бұрын
  • Shiny Blacephalon (and Smeargle, I guess) get a special animation for using Mind Blown. Doesn't change anything other than the ball being blue instead of white, but it's pretty cool.

    @goomyiscute777@goomyiscute7772 ай бұрын
  • In the generation that shinies debutted - gen 2 - shinies were actually sub-optimal since they needed to have a specific set of IVs to be shiny, and they werent the maxed out ones. People called maxed out IVs 'perfect pokemon' and shinies werent perfect.

    @ricsouza5011@ricsouza50112 ай бұрын
  • Rayquaza is another suboptimal shiny because it signals that it doesn't have the absurdly powerful V-Create, which was given to a Japan-only event Rayquaza. And in formats where it's legal, it's better to run shiny Genesect since it got Extreme Speed and Shift Gear from a movie distribution.

    @cinnasauria@cinnasauriaАй бұрын
  • I remember there was one heatah fajita video where cte was forced to run shiny genesect so he can use espeed, so he made the entire team shiny to hide it

    @th2112@th21122 ай бұрын
  • Couldn't they just tell based on the ball they were caught in? Like if your shiny Suicune isn't in a Cherish Ball that's a dead giveaway.

    @TheRedScizor@TheRedScizor2 ай бұрын
    • Only a split second to check so you get an advantage in game 1 likely

      @MoxieBoosted@MoxieBoosted2 ай бұрын
  • Something I want to point as well is that For generation 2 with how hidden power was based on stats along with its shinyness. A shiny Pokémon would always have hidden power grass or dragon at either BP 49 or 69

    @shadowguy128@shadowguy1282 ай бұрын
  • 7:37 "undoubtably." That ain't a word man :D lol

    @sundersquare@sundersquareАй бұрын
  • With all the new nature mints you’d think the shiny’s that are nature locked could be changed and therefore become even more hidden weapons because they’d expect the original and get the competitive version

    @SeaOtter420@SeaOtter4202 ай бұрын
    • I get where you're coming from, but it wouldn't happen to anybody other than mega-nerds specializing in other formats playing absentmindedly or distracted by something else, and would result in a pretty funny twitch clip, but unlikely to amount to anything more

      @mystik_owl@mystik_owlАй бұрын
  • In gen 2, being shiny told your opponent some of your IVs.

    @shinyflygon8883@shinyflygon88832 ай бұрын
  • Technically it doesn't even help to converse information to run the shinies. All of these event Pokemon come in cherish balls so running a shiny to conserve the information of what moves you can have was literally worthless if your opponent was smart enough to watch the ball when sending them out unless you had the event Pokemon itself. I've heard about people shiny hunting Gyarados in 2017 because they thought it would help them and it's very silly how much time was wasted for NOTHING.

    @bubs4581@bubs45812 ай бұрын
    • The opponent needs to check for the split second the ball in the air. If they're busy writing stuff on their notes or just not attentive this matters alot

      @MoxieBoosted@MoxieBoosted2 ай бұрын
    • @@MoxieBoostedAnd if they're playing optimally they would check that.

      @bubs4581@bubs45812 ай бұрын
    • Oh this is such a great point. If someone is seriously researched and experienced enough to know what moves a mon can/can’t have based on it being shiny in-the-moment, they’re obviously going to be attentive enough to make sure they watch the ball animation.

      @Nurylon@Nurylon2 ай бұрын
  • I still have my original copy of the entei raikou and suicune, it’s so cool being able to use them again in vgc even if they ain’t the best. I used to think it was so cool having sheer cold and suicune and I remember some of my friends being jealous of me in middle school 😂😂

    @Fyoozhen@Fyoozhen2 ай бұрын
  • Dude the music in this! First you use the gambling sound from Simpsons hit and run and then you put meteor herd from sa2b. You're the goat

    @BDra7@BDra72 ай бұрын
  • iirc, an example you didnt mention is in gen2. you never really want to run shinies since they have a stat disadvantage due to the way that shinyness is determined in gen2.

    @Tlaloc1@Tlaloc12 ай бұрын
  • Currently cleaning up on ranked ladder with my shiny entei from gen 4 that i've brought forward for years. Mints/hyper training have done wonders for old event pokemon

    @scottcrysel@scottcrysel2 ай бұрын
  • Blood with the Charizard plushie is a menace and I love him for it

    @dilliondantin@dilliondantin17 күн бұрын
  • Couldnt you tell the beasts apart by their cherish ball?

    @bigmonke3348@bigmonke33482 ай бұрын
    • You only have a moments glance to tell

      @MoxieBoosted@MoxieBoosted2 ай бұрын
  • Fun fact: Tatsugiri's Shiny forms, like its regular colors, are also real types of sushi. 🍣

    @jesuisunstroopwafel@jesuisunstroopwafel2 ай бұрын
    • Who would have guessed?

      @enoyna1001@enoyna10012 ай бұрын
  • Shiny galarian legendary birds can really mess with someone's mind.

    @gaster000@gaster0002 ай бұрын
    • If they get confused, they straight up deserve that

      @joonas394@joonas3942 ай бұрын
  • When I learned that as of Gen 9, you can't transfer Pokemon from earlier generations that have "special" moves they'd normally not have... (I got a shiny Mew that took a while to get Fake Out via Gale of Darkness, then transferred it up from Gen 3, only to find out after Gen 8, they *take away any special moves given to Pokemon*) Same thing happened with Lugia via Gale of Darkness too (if you transfer it from Gen 3, up to Gen 8 it's fine... but going to Gen 9 they take away Psycho Boost) Really sucks though since, while I know Mew isn't able to be used in VGC, you can't have it with Fake Out in doubles in Gen 9 due to this removal. (no idea why they made this change except to make it so that "everyone has the same playing field") Makes even less since due to Mew being the Pokemon that "learns every move" but then... taking it away lol...

    @Dizzy-Luc@Dizzy-Luc2 ай бұрын
  • 9:52 Haven't seen the famous Wolfe's hacked/generated Raichu in a while. I remember watching that Raichu use Endeavor live lol. I was like, "No waayyy" lol

    @JordansoBASED@JordansoBASED2 ай бұрын
    • Wasn’t wolfee’s raichu a reward for the pikachu cup back then? Pretty sure there’s an entire vid abt it lol

      @Jacket4231@Jacket42312 ай бұрын
    • Albeit it was distributed as a pikachu

      @Jacket4231@Jacket42312 ай бұрын
    • It wasn't hacked, it was just the WORLD CHAMP DIF BABYYYYYYY !

      @LouX453@LouX4532 ай бұрын
  • Missed opportunity to make a "All Shinies Are Hacked" joke in the video.

    @valiantchris6456@valiantchris64562 ай бұрын
  • Landorus incarnate in gen 7 monotype and ubers couldn't be run shiny as at the time the only way to get it's hidden ability was through dream radar which was shiny locked so by running a shiny you where telling them you has sand force meaning the set was physical as apposed to sheer force sets that where mixed or special attackers

    @memetan_24@memetan_242 ай бұрын
  • I'm surprised you didn't mention Gen 2 at all. I don't think there are ANY tournaments for Gen 2 these days, but still, shiny mechanics for Gen 2 meant Shiny Mons were inherently at an advantage, though I'm not sure if anyone knew that back then or if that was a modern discovery.

    @thomashost272@thomashost2722 ай бұрын
  • 7:28 i love the more psychological aspect of competitive games especially outside of the game itself

    @tomas_crusader1756@tomas_crusader1756Ай бұрын
  • The opponent can also just watch the pokeball animation, if its cherish ball theyll know it has special moves

    @kenc6569@kenc656910 күн бұрын
  • You make the greatest Pokemon videos

    @jul1us787@jul1us7872 ай бұрын
  • I shiny hunted all 3 versions of tatsugiri with 0 IV Atk, just beacuse it is a Sp. Atker. I just refuse to have sub optimal mons 😂

    @deckblackwing@deckblackwing2 ай бұрын
  • I decided to imagine that level 4 Rattata was instead a level 1 Paras.

    @nightmare3642@nightmare36422 ай бұрын
  • The persona 3 test music tho. Great vid too

    @PKshockwave@PKshockwave2 ай бұрын
  • This is a great channel!! I hope you get to make some longer videos in the future…

    @nicosledakis7452@nicosledakis74522 ай бұрын
  • What I really learned today is the pokemon distribution events are busted. Imagine trying to get into competitive pokemon now and learning you have to account for special pokemon from literally two decades ago.

    @CaptainPlayguy@CaptainPlayguyАй бұрын
    • Transfer moves don't matter today since all pokemon lose their moves upon transfer into Gen 8

      @MoxieBoosted@MoxieBoostedАй бұрын
    • options only available from limited giveaways should be completely banned whenever mythicals are already banned

      @mystik_owl@mystik_owlАй бұрын
  • "Who would bother going for the shiny Charizard X amiright?" > Me, liking Shiny Zard X better than regular Zard and Charizard Y's shinies. That shade of blue-green/teal is my favorite color. It contrasts really well with the bright red and I love it. It also feels- very vaguely since the colors aren't exact- like a Salamence reference. With the blue-green and the red. Also because Salamence's regular form is Blue and its shiny is Green.

    @celestialwish1478@celestialwish14782 ай бұрын
  • This video just made me annoyed that so many event Pokemon given away have otherwise illegal movesets which seem to be the only thing making that Pokemon viable, especially with these events from many years ago. Like it's not p2w levels but it still seems pretty shitty that players who missed events are already at a disadvantage.

    @Awec4@Awec42 ай бұрын
  • I ran shiny pokemon in gen 8 because I hoped people would check my team post game and notice the gen 2 mark and excessive ribbons on my shiny lugia.

    @AgentSapphire@AgentSapphireАй бұрын
  • Fly in the Freedom best SA2 track CHANGE MY MIND

    @nicholaslogan6840@nicholaslogan68402 ай бұрын
    • Ofc

      @Aigle662frileux@Aigle662frileux2 ай бұрын
  • Tapu Koko did eventually get a shiny event in Gen 7 that could have any nature

    @SquiddyJohn@SquiddyJohn20 күн бұрын
  • The plushie mindgame lmaoooo 😅

    @Sol_Calibre@Sol_Calibre2 ай бұрын
  • so you're telling me it was disadvantageous for greninja to be black or female...

    @02Resurrect@02Resurrect2 ай бұрын
  • I recognized every song in this video. I think they're under SEGA these days. Great taste!

    @metrothered@metrothered6 күн бұрын
  • Shiny Galarian Moltres is great on low ladder for the way if bluffs being a fire type

    @MayVeryWellBeep@MayVeryWellBeep2 ай бұрын
  • honestly surprised gen 2 didn't get brought up.

    @sipp8741@sipp87412 ай бұрын
  • Love the editor

    @purplebeach3145@purplebeach31452 ай бұрын
  • To everyone that takes the time to breeds for egg moves, breeds for perfect stats, and breeds for shiny. There’s a reason we make it to masterball every ranked season we play, anyone can pick up a hacked Mon. But they can’t fake our dedication, See you in the next regulation, you deserve to be there ❤️❤️❤️

    @Berzrking@BerzrkingАй бұрын
    • As someone who does everything you said and doesn't hack: Bro chill it's not that deep lmfao

      @MoxieBoosted@MoxieBoostedАй бұрын
  • I ONLY use shiny pokemon period. And i used to battle online often. But due to the dex cut and moves reset i dont battle at all anymore. I still shiny hunt but i gotta chose 1 thing to suck uo all my time and they reset all my progress

    @darkespeon64@darkespeon642 ай бұрын
  • THERE WAS AN EVENT SHINY MAGIKARP WITH BOUNCE? Dude as a kid I got traded hacked pokemon sometimes and I just assumed the shiny magikarp with bounce I got was hacked (I didn’t care if pokemon were hacked as a kid cuz I wasn’t playing online anyways) crazy that it was probably legit then

    @poppyseed799@poppyseed7992 ай бұрын
  • Another set of shinies that can trick people who aren't that good/aren't paying attention is the shiny Galarian forms of the legendary birds, especially Galarian Moltres. Since all threes' shiny colors are just the color schemes of the Gen 1 birds, if someone isn't paying attention then they attempt to hit your psychic/flying galarian articuno with a normally neutral fighting move, just as one example. Galarian Moltres is the best one to do this with just because Zapdos and Articuno have very distinctive postures in their galarian forms that make them a lot more difficult to mess up, while shiny Galarian Moltres looks practically identical to normal Kantonian Moltres

    @everettw.9610@everettw.96102 ай бұрын
  • As a more casual VGC player who doesn’t even grind for optimal IVs there is no way in hell I am going for the shiny forms of any of these Pokémon

    @ItsTheLegendOfZelda@ItsTheLegendOfZelda2 ай бұрын
  • But the Cherish Ball reveals it is the event Pokémon and there isn't really a way to bluff it if you pay attention. I think in Gen 4 the balls already had different animations when thrown out, didn't they? Correct me if I am wrong.

    @inari.gaming@inari.gaming2 ай бұрын
  • The trick of using a random shiny legendary beast and pretending it’s an event one doesn’t work because of the Pokeball. You can mimic the appearance of the Pokemon but you can’t (legally) mimic the appearance of the Pokeball.

    @Borchert97@Borchert972 ай бұрын
    • People did it anyways since you only have a split second to check. Most people won't think to look until game 2

      @MoxieBoosted@MoxieBoosted2 ай бұрын
  • I forgot how awesome Greninja's shiny was! That Ash-Greninja needs to return! The new Battle Bond ability is ight

    @JordansoBASED@JordansoBASED2 ай бұрын
    • We might get to see it in PLZ.

      @ericstelzman5190@ericstelzman51902 ай бұрын
  • Now i understand why there's no shiny greninja in Gen 7 since in XY that black frog is everywhere in Battle spot

    @Rin_husband@Rin_husband2 ай бұрын
  • I am definitely going to be trying for as ll of my competitive teams to be shiny. The extra tilt might win you the match.

    @joshuapope6563@joshuapope65632 ай бұрын
  • This is the hardest cope I've ever seen for trying to justify wasting time doing something pointless.

    @gesugaoevilface7876@gesugaoevilface78762 ай бұрын
    • Cry about it

      @mistermistermr732@mistermistermr7322 ай бұрын
    • Now what is the cope for spending time to write that comment 🤔

      @christiancinnabars1402@christiancinnabars14022 ай бұрын
    • Lmfao

      @djmalic3@djmalic32 ай бұрын
    • @@christiancinnabars1402 thats a super stupid response LMAO... takes like 5 seconds to write that and with your own logic you re coping too bcz you spend time to write your comment aswell... what is this nonsense?

      @Laonaadoo@Laonaadoo2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Laonaadoo cope lol

      @weaboo837@weaboo8372 ай бұрын
  • I’m making a Tinkaton team and I’ve decided to get a shiny, because if I’m going down, I’m going down in style

    @exocutionn@exocutionn2 ай бұрын
  • You could actually manipulate mons in Colosseum and XD to be shiny once transferred iirc, its just that the shiny property didn't exist in-game. But, the way the game manages and stores mons' data makes it possible to to become shiny in other games. Similarly, the "genes" for a square shiny can come through in gen1 transferred mons and onwards. It's all mon and trainer I'd shenanigans and a consequence of them reusing code across the generations

    @ashemabahumat4173@ashemabahumat41732 ай бұрын
    • Shinies do exist (and some Pokemon have wildly different palettes in those games), but the Shadow Pokemon were intended to be shiny locked. They're properly locked in XD, where only the non-shadow Pokemon can be shiny, but the locks were faulty in Colosseum, locking the Pokemon to the opponent trainer but when caught they might be shiny for you. Trading has nothing to do with it.

      @YOM2_UB@YOM2_UB2 ай бұрын
    • @@YOM2_UB I see. I didnt really say anything about trading specifically, tho

      @ashemabahumat4173@ashemabahumat41732 ай бұрын
    • @@ashemabahumat4173 You said "to be shiny once transferred" and that "the shiny doesn't exist in-game" which gave the impression that a non-shiny Pokemon could become shiny once traded to another game.

      @YOM2_UB@YOM2_UB2 ай бұрын
    • @@YOM2_UB well I treat transfering and trading as different things since the idea is to migrate them to other titles versus simply trading with your friends in the current gen. I wouldn't think the later would change anything. That said, in gen1 that's definitely how it works on account of DV's. But if I'm wrong here then I'm wrong here.

      @ashemabahumat4173@ashemabahumat41732 ай бұрын
  • Greninja was my first thought seeing the title. Didn't realize it's never been VGC legal though. Kind of hoping Legends Z-A brings Ash-Greninja back, I don't really like the one-off stat boost Battle Bond was changed to in SV. Even if it has to stay VGC illegal, being a pseudo Mega is _so_ much cooler.

    @RikkuEcRud@RikkuEcRud2 ай бұрын
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