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Have you ever experienced this kind of situation before? Comment below!
I had a situation once at a anime convention where I tried to buy a real sword but the vender insulted me because he thought I go around and try to assault people. He pressured me into buying a fake one. I bought it but rarely use it.
That seller deserves a whole episode on @steviefreakinc 's channel!
It felt like he was a UK shop owner to be honest in the UK if the price is labelled people ain't getting a discount from haggling. The haggling customer may even be viewed as the bad guy in the scenario why I rarely shop in person :/ Sorry you had a terrible experience 😢
Definitely had this happen a couple times. Vendors sometimes act like just because you ask to see an item you are already agreeing to buy it. If this guy kept pushing me like he did you, I would have just told him market price is about $100 and that's what I am looking to pay. He was way too aggressive knocking the price down repeatedly after you said you were passing on it. I find it best to move on from those people to find somewhere else to spend my money.
I had the same problem. He didn’t want me to see any games. He just gave me the price and said, “Are you going to buy it or not?”
I had an identical experience with that vendor. I’ve been to 3 conventions he’s been at since I help a buddy of mine run a booth. I was interested in an NES Deluxe set he had, box was clean, but of course before committing to purchasing I wanted to check out the insides. Well it wasn’t fully complete with all the parts, games didn’t have their boxes, etc so I told him I’d have to pass. (He had it marked a few hundred above sold comps) and he wouldn’t leave me alone about it and made me feel like I was somehow the bad guy for backing out, when I was never committed to begin with. Then he comes up to our booth and offers 60% price charting on all our high end games, we tell him no, then he acts like he does us a favor by saying “yeah I won’t buy these I’ll let you make more money by selling them during the event.” Like yeah that wasn’t your choice buddy 😂 he’s unbelievable
The first minute of the video the guys with the Barbie control stuff are the homies from retro respawn they are amazing people and very friendly glad to see you met them 🙏
"I will do $130" me: "Cool, I will save $10 and buy it from another vendor..."
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I absolutely hate the greedy resellers, really are the plague of our hobby. Walking away was the right call. We cant encourage them to continue to rip people off.
Very nice of you to say you appreciate his offer and it's a nice deal. I would've just told him "dude, I just said another booth got it for 120, why would I pay 130".
Lol
I had an experience like that at the retro game expo last year & a sega Saturn game I wanted to get was like $500. I ended up just finding it on eBay for around $300 lol
Nick had the best metaphor. It is a dance when you haggle. Most of the time it's a junior high dance however. Personally, I just don't find it worth it half the time. But he nailed it. Vendor just looking to make a sale on Sunday.
I'm a small local seller who does local meetups and shows to sell some of my video games and you can tell very quickly who is there to sell and enjoy themselves meeting new people and who's there just to make a quick buck. He was clearly only there for money and nothing else. I personally love talking to people when they look at the games and other stuff I have for sale because it makes the time go quickly while we are both having fun talking about the stuff we love! Hell, I've made so many friends from my local monthly meetup just from my selling and it's something I'll always enjoy! I'm also the type of person where if I find out someone else has a better price than me, I will always push for them to get theirs over mine if the condition is nicer or its too good to pass up! We are a community at the end of the day and I want people to get the most out of their money, especially with everything getting more and more pricey in 2024.
I think the worse experience I have had with a convention seller was with artwork at anime expo in Los Angeles. I found some really cool looking sheet metal pieces. I saw one with the full evolution line for the polemon bulbasaur which I really likes and when I asked for it the vendor laughed in my face and asked me if I was serious. When I confirmed that it was what I wanted they went pale and instead of apologizing they tried to convince they weren't making fun of me. I was young and really wanted it so I bought it anyways but realistically I should've walked away. Especially since I moved not long after and it got ruined in transit anyways. Was such a waste.
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I'm just an OG collector with no resale interest and those type of people really burn me up 🤬.
Same here brother 🙏 resellers make me sick
Bruh, how are you gonna buy any old games without resellers?!?
Yeah been so pushy it’s a huge no for me even if is a good deal I would walk away just because I get awkward and make it uncomfortable.
Agreed 🙂
The saddest part about this is that you don't even have to show the vendors face, I know this vendor, I recognize the stuff they're selling. I've run into them several times in the past and their prices are soo ridiculous its stupid. They've got a couple of the N64 controllers I need to complete my set, one was double the pc price, the other $100 over pc. They also sold a buddy of mine a broken gba for $70, which was the negotiated price. He almost quit retro after that. At this point I just go to their booth to mock them.
Had to help my family out when they encountered them. He was a dick to them and it was their first year buying retro. Overall wish I never see him selling ever again
Experienced something similar at MWGC. I was looking for the price on a Breath of Fire III and he tells me 130 and I was clearly disappointed but politely told him "okay that's more than I can spend at this time, thanks." He then offered $120 and I told him I appreciate it but I didn't have to cash for it. Well I take card he says and then he says you know some people don't know what that game is worth these days." I got angry at this point and said no thanks and walked away. I know the game is worth about half that! Everyone else does too and that's why he went home with it. I don't like telling small business people how to run things but don't insult my intelligence.
OMG that's the same guy that tried to sell me a DBZ attack of the saiyans that wouldn't get detected on my 3ds and he said "just take it and use isopropyl alcohol and it will work" he had it for $100 but then lowered it to $80 like bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Wowwwweee. I had to I had to do it for my wife that's my wife
@@seanthegamer5552did you have a stroke?
As someone who used to work in a mom and pop game shop you can't be to pushy my boss used to offer deals to people if you were buy lots of games but if the customer didn't want it you don't be pushy because that can damage the business reputation of the store by seeing like we only care about sales , a lot of people came back because we had talked to them about games before buying them or gave recommendations based on what they were purchasing. If they didn't want to converse that was fine too. But me and my bosses were just a bunch of nerds who liked video games. So we tried to be as relatable as we could so people would be comfortable buying from us
as the kids say "he did not pass the vibe check". 100% agree that haggling is a dance and you gotta know when the other person isnt feeling it. i walk away from those interactions every time
One thing I notice about the vendor and the booth is that the boxes were completely full. I can only imagine that they didn't sell that much at that Expo. I think you said that this was the second or third day too. I also found it strange that every DS game was in a bag as well but not the Wii U games. I'm glad you stuck to your guns and did not give into the purchase. Like the store manager said, that vendor was all about the $$$$$. I have never sold at an Expo but I have done some local swaps. I usually have my prices under market value and then give discounts if people buy multiple games. Being friendly and open and honest helps in every transaction.
There was a car sellsman, who went to get an aggressive manager. He wouldn't let me leave, I had my eyes on a Honda Accord in another dealership.
You did everything right were collectors and we want good deals . Everyone has there price but that doesn't mean we gotta pay that price
Thanks for saying so 🙂
You guys are too nice. I would have said I’ll give you 90 take it or leave it and walk away even if he still talking. lol but I’m a savage 😂
14:34 No, You had it right first time around. You are running out of room! It's a constraint! 😂
Haha both are true!
Dude is probably a used car salesman outside of expos. When people get pushy I just walk, no need to give him my time
Not happened to me in terms of video games. But I had a salesman at a car dealership try to block the door one time because I was walking away from an offer.
I have experienced something similar to this before. This guy clearly just wanted the money and didn't care about anything else. He's a businessman, and I get that, but there is no reason really to be so aggressive. In my case, I ended up just walking away after politely turning down the sale and the guy even followed me for a bit dropping the price by $1 every 30 seconds or so. I literally had to turn around and just tell him I am not buying from him on principle at that point.
I literally have Dino Riders VHS #1 in my player right now. Freaking love that one. The best part of the Dino Riders VHS is the Tyco advertisements for the Dino Riders toys.
Yes!!
WAH! Just found True Lies at my local pawn shop and was STOKED to pick it up. Absolutely would have done the same and walked away from that dude. Sellers can ask however much they want for their items: if a little haggling doesn't work out, I walk away! :D. Great video as always!
There's a saying about gamehunting at conventions: "The first day is quality, the last day is quantity." It's a gamble: if there's something you want, do you buy it right away at a higher price, or try waiting until the last day when you can probably negotiate for a lower price, but at the risk that someone else might buy it on a earlier day? But with guys like that, their stock wont shrink much. And that's on him.
I learned from working at a pawn shop in college that when the price is high enough that you already know they won't be able to meet your price then just politely tell them you're not interested, which I think you did. If they continue to pressure you then just tell them you are looking for it for much cheaper and wouldn't want to offend them with the offer. At that point some people still want to know so just tell them how much you're wanting to get it for. Usually they just laugh and you give them the courtesy laugh of, "see, told ya." Some people will still get upset, and honestly just knowing that you can only control your own actions is the best view point to have. You have no obligation to purchase from someone and shouldn't feel bad because of someone else's actions. Sometimes they can surprise you and accept your offer.
Sorry you guys had to deal with that, great video as always!!
2:46 womp womp
I have really bad social anxiety so when I've been pressured like that in the past I could never go back.
Real talk - True Lies is a suuuuuuuuper fun game on SNES
It looks fun!
I agree with Mort on this one. Awesome game. Rented it as a kid and got it at a couple years ago locally.
I think there are times where you have to walk away immediately if the price is too high. If there’s a high value title, know what the value is before you get a chance to look at it and if it’s too high just cut the cord immediately that you don’t want it. If it’s a $100 game and you’re seeing a $150 price tag there’s literally no reason to start any negotiation as the seller is more than likely too far in price to care about dropping it that much lower. I’ve never, in the past however many years of collecting, been able to convince any seller to drop their price to price charting levels if they’re already asking 30-40%+ what price charting has a game listed at, it’s a losing battle no matter what.
Very good point. We definitely wanted to walk away, but he had a lot of great stuff for sale and we already bought from him. It's a shame it had to get to this point 😞
Tbf, price charting isn't exactly accurate. It's a decent tool but no where near the end all be all of determining market value.
I completely agree. When I come across a booth and I see items way above market value (happens at every convention, don't know how these people make money), I immediately skip the whole thing. But I understand it might be different if you are really are set on getting a rare item.
He wanted $150 for that game cause he probably "Invested" $120 into it for a quick flip
I've never been to an expo, but I've had some experience in dealing with video game vendors. Sometimes you can't pick the personality of who the vendor is. All you can do is decide if you wish to negotiate, then figure out what is best for you in the end. Buy it now...or just wait . That's all you can do in the end guys. Thanks again for the video.
I think we all have had bad interactions in retail at times. At times you can get a deal on some things and at times you won't. What amazes me is ..if that clip was on the Sunday (and end of Con) usually guys are pushing to make as much sales as possible. As one shop owner friend told me , "I wanna get rid as much stuff since i gotta load it all back up..." lol.
Yo, great video, y'all aren't wrong about aggressive resellers, and it's always great to see the peeps from one-up games 🤟😎🤙
Just want to clear things up...y'all are amazing be safe and take care love your videos
Love the content. Would you guys ever talk about what it’s like to go to these cons. Like is it crazy busy around town. Do you go early and wait in lines or later. Essentially the what it’s like at a con and what realistically it looks like to go.
Thanks for watching! We'll have to mention some of those items when we come across them during a future con 😀
Dino Riders VHS 🎉🎉🎉
Dino riders was a awesome cartoon. I enjoy your videos.
@@Khaot1x thx dude 🙏
I was so happy to see you guys freak out at the Dino Riders VHS, and it's even volume 1. Definitely one of my grail VHS goals and to this day I don't know how that series wasn't wildly successful.
We were so stoked to find it! 😀
True lies on SNES was one of my favorite games as a kid. I got it for Christmas and I remember it was hard but I learned every single level and beat it. Such a fun memory!
That's awesome, such a fun game 😀
As a Canadian that was too nice with you both with that vendor. Most of us would had said you lost a sale and passed the word along.
Pretty sure that's the same booth that looked at me like an idiot when I asked for a bundle offer for a few NES games. He wouldn't budge on a Saturday and then tried to throw a deal on the third at me after I bought the two I actually wanted. Everyone else was awesome.
That growlanser game was a sweet deal I will have to look for it now thanks!
Nice channel loving the videos
Thanks so much for watching 😀
Video game heaven my place to be
I had a similar experience with that guy but ultimately did buy from him b/c he was the only vendor with the games I wanted. I stood firm on what I was willing to pay though, and he eventually accepted, so maybe I caught him on an off day.
Awesome video guy & lady 😎!
So when you go to SoCal in June, does that mean we're going to get a month full of videos for that expo as well!? You guys really did an exceptional job creating all that content in a weekend. And that Dr Mario match was off the chart! But it made me play a whole lot more now these days.
Man we try to lol, it's tough to do!
I've seen a video with that Nick guy recently that was pretty good. I believe it was about Phoenix Resale being a harm to gaming so of course I liked it lol
Yeah he was shitting on Caleb for doing all those videos on why it’s bad to own a game store now
All these resellers are harmful to rjese cheap games haha
All my homies hate phoenix resale 🤝
Everyone you buy from is a reseller. If you don’t want to pay for it don’t buy it. 😂
How do we destroy Phoenix Reseller reputation and business?
What do you guys use to resurface your disks? And would you recommend it for others? Thanks!
We have an Eco Auto Smart, it's fantastic! But it's very expensive...
I would just walk away and say no thanks. Great video, you had me when you said you still feel icky.
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Awesome video my friends, please keep up the excellent content and work😊. Also please just get the burnout 3 resurfaced. That is one of my all time favorite games ever. Peace and Blessings always my friends.
We do have a great resurfacer, but we want better cover art and the missing manual lol. It's one of my favorite arcade racers of ALL TIME 😀
There's always people like him aggressively trying to sell their overpriced items in the collector's world--be it retro games, comics, toys, etc... But just remember that they need you more than you need them. Which is why they're so aggressive in their tactics and probably also hasn't sold much either (gee, I wonder why...). They def like to take advantage of people who are trying to be nice as if it's a sign of weakness. Nicely done getting away and bringing this up for discussion. 👏 As you can see in the comments, this is all too relatable.
Dude: 150. Me: Nope. I'm off.
No and I would of walked away and give him the bird
OMG I have that JRPG cart and box only no instructions but I bought it for only 60.00 that guy was SUPER MEANIE sorry you guys had to go through that…. The game is o…k… your not missing much, however if you like wizard of OZ you should find it eventually for your collection! Good luck hunting!
Omg that’s the owner of 1 up games out here in Mesa! I’ve met that dude before he’s super genuine! Love that store, man I gotta go back!
They are great!
Everyone’s different & this seller is no exception & sometimes it’s good to see to your minds eye what bad is so you can appreciate the good, the best way to deal with hard sellers is to offer a low ball offer the Wizard of oZ for example say you offer him $75 then it would probably be a firm no & you get to walk away, or he says yes & you get a great deal.
Getbackers was awesome. Watched It when I was in high school back in 2006
Just pull out your phone and show the EBAY sold listings. Wizard of OZ DS's highest sold is 120+6 ship the next one was 120 free ship then a few went for between 110-120. Then explain you can get it at the other booth for 120. Then "Would you do 115?" He says no go right over to the other guy and buy the 120 one. If that guy doesn't understand that all customers want the lowest price he shouldn't be buying and selling anything.
Every gamers dream come true
Superhuman Samurai Cyber Squad is actually pretty great as far as Power Ranger style shows go!
I came across this guy during the convention. He kept talking to me about how he’s tired of people not buying “sh**” and wasting his time when they politely decline. Probably because his stuff was way over price charting prices. Dude made my family uncomfortable and I had to help them back out of convos with him because he kept trying to aggressively get them to buy an item from guilt. He was a straight up a hole.
the saddest part I always put the price at the lowest I can go so when I sell anything
Lots of cool stuff , seeing all the mega man in the boxes , I have all mine , but no boxes but I have the manuals and papers. It's annoying when you try to leave and someone keeps trying to get you to buy. I was at a comic book show , a guy had the book I wanted. But when I was waiting to pay , a buddy of his came up and he wrote the phone number on a piece of paper on top of the comic I wanted. It was in a bag , but it impressed into the comic. I told him I didn't want it , and he kept trying to get me to pay for something he ruined, which is what I told him.
Ouch, that's a bummer 😞
With that vendor I would have just said thank you after about the second counter of only taking $5 off and walked away never to do business with them again. The people I do business with understand to treat customers with respect. There was none there.
True. I guess if nobody buys it he will be forced to sell for less. Idk I’m not a high roller. I can’t afford games at retail lol😂
When i had true lies in the box 10 yrs ago i couldnt give it away man times change
Usually if i see some things that are overpriced like that i just avoid all together. No conflict, no issue, just avoids the whole situation all together.
I want me and my wife to go to a gaming expo
You should! They are a blast 😀
me personally i would get a grip it isn't that serious.
I definitely would have walked away from the Wizard of Oz game. First it was overpriced, second the aggressiveness was unnecessary
Man Dawn of Mana was such a let down when i played it and gave up before the final boss. Nice score on Boktai 2 thats one i never see in the seattle area, so its kinda nice to see in your video. Btw i finally got my biggest 3ds grail game (thats not expensive)
Nice! Which one?
@@JRPGLife Tales of the Abyss, which I already own on ps2
3:10 when the guy wanteds to do ot but the girl said no we are not buying another 1 kinda look :p
i've never experienced the hard sell as a buyer outside of a car dealership, but i've encountered resellers as a collector who tried to lowball me for my sega collection because nintendo games are more popular.
VHS is one of those formats I grew up with and despite that I have no nostalgia for it. Bad quality picture, fragile tapes and the machines that ate them, and rewinding. The only fond memories related to VHS was trips to the rental store on the weekends.
I can respect that for sure. A lot of the nostalgia comes from Blockbuster lol
I’m 19 but I grew up with VHS cause my family had a bunch. I also found them really annoying.
I buy games and stuff and the only time I sell is if I REALLY need to. Otherwise, re-selling is a no go for me. I would rather wait on a deal using both price charting and ebay to find an average between both cause price charting doesn't always have up to daye information or mixes it between loose or a different language game in the CIB filter and marks it wrong.
He said 15... not 50 for the plush... it did sound like 50 though.
I had a similar experience with the same vendor at the game on expo. Made me not want to buy from him as well
What's the ham doing in the game room at 16:00? LOL
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I would have also walked away, maybe even earlier. When there’s that big difference with the price between sellers, that’s a no brainer.
I cannot stand those types of people who tries to force you into buying something thats a little overpriced & honestly i would walk away.. one time actually tried to buy a one gamecube game from a fb marketplace & it was a copy of the legend of zelda”windwaker”(cib) and this guy listed it way overpriced about $120 bucks.. and i even told him that i can go on ebay or a retro gamestore for a way better price for that copy which usually that copy runs around $77 & dude just got so mad and acted like i dont know nothing about any retro video games.. which usually i always look up prices before i buy it.. and he even tried to convince me to buy it from him im like nahh im good fam.. any retro gamers out there! Stay safe! Which at the end of the day.. there’s just wayy better deals just gotta find them! Goodluck👍🏽
I would just walk away at that point. Even if there was something I was interested in, his attitude is such a huge red flag. Side note but there's a Resident Evil tablet candy at 11:59 priced for $100. I really wonder how much that seller bought it for because it's a nonlimited item, priced at 864 yen (~7 USD at the time) from Capcom's store in Japan. At least in 4/2023 when I visited and bought one. You really have to do your research when when looking for stuff! Also, glad I stumbled upon this video!
Thanks so much for watching 😀
so glad you clipped from Nicks recent video.. Might get flack for it.. However Im a reseller and I think he approached this with grace and should cause people to think
This wasn't from his recent video, this was a conversation we had and recorded privately. 🙂
@@JRPGLife ahhhhh well either way good stuff! I feel he said some of the same things though lol
I'm glad you got Beyond the Yellow Brick Road. That game is super weird.
Get Backers is an awesome anime. Chibi Ginji Amano lol. Tekken the motion picture is AMAZING... The intro, music, and ripping off dinosaur jaws lol
What is the shop called?
I am unsure, sorry.
Awesome and has a guy who has been in that place i know how u feel, the guy who i tried to buy from literally followed me after and started commenting saying why didn't i buy from him 😅 . Anyway i still after a wizard of oz copy myself
Wow, that sounds terrifying lol
@@JRPGLife it was has someone who suffers from social phobia and ptsd it took me so much effort to go to Said show and then to get that happen hit me hard
I would have told that vendor "No thanks" and walked off. No explanation needed. I dont have time for people like that, he didnt deserve an explanation from you.
I feel like the guy you felt icky about was just trying to make a buck. If you seen it somewhere cheaper and really wanted it, you should've went back to the guy who was selling it for $120 and worked out a deal. Just my two cents
I think you guys did the right thing. I would have been very uncomfortable around that seller
I could understand someone paying maybe $50 U.S. for a sealed Final Fantasy anime OVA VHS tape but $300? I haven't seen it since some point in the mid-1990s at an anime club at Université de Montréal but I remember it being very mediocre.
Mediocre is being generous 😅
I would have told that particular seller to go away and leave. I'd probably be mean about it to. Was to a giant retromarket this weekend, the sellers there was all wonderful and I spent far to much money. Went to one seller and we got talking and somehow I got a thirty percent discount on games that were already sold under market value, I didn't even ask for a discount. He just gave it to me because we had a good conversation.
I would have made it awkward by directly saying to the seller was trying to strongarm me into paying too much money for a game and ended the conversation. People like him need to be put in their place.
Love the cool stuff but way out of my price range. This game prices are really getting crazy
Yeah, they just keep climbing 😀
Some people just have no interest in engaging people. That guy wanted to harass/feel powerful more than he wanted to make a deal. It's sad some people act like that.
Love the vid and expo. It's great to see so many awesome things in the wild. In regards to your interaction with that seller, that was really unfortunate. Honesty, there's no rule book on how to sell or what to say, but their cadence and tone were very off-putting. I'm sure the posture and facial expressions go with that. In my opinion, not a great interaction, and that kind of interaction is not going to benefit them. Word of mouth and great feedback can go a long way. Making a quick buck is amateur hour 101. An extra $30 with all of that inventory goes no where. Success in anything comes with respect given, taking a perspective from who you are interacting with and making the best attempt to infer how the other party is feeling being aware of your surroundings and tailoring your message properly to not only make a customer for life but to potentially spread the word about your business and with that comes Success. Above all of that, it doesn't hurt to be friendly, receptive and positive. Life isn't a race , it's a marathon. Great topic. I really got this mind thinking, and that's not a bad thing at all. ☝️🙌✨️
Well said!
As someone that works in a job where we can upsell and has experience in a straight up sales position, I would’ve given him a hard no. Very direct and very stern “No, not interested”. He sounds like one of those bad pushy salesmen that has no finesse or tact.
i know and understand the collectable aspect of some of these items, but hot damn some of the prices are wtf. Im always asking.. how the heck do people afford all of these and its not the only thing they get. Either way some cool finds.