Levuka Tracks by Land Rover Discovery 4 (LR4)
2018 ж. 8 Жел.
65 793 Рет қаралды
An exploration of tracks at Levuka 4x4 Park. For those interested in the wheels & tyres we have:
Compomotive PD1881 - www.comp.co.uk/products/produ...
Tuffant steel 18" - www.tuffant.com/tuffant
White one - 285/60/R18
Bronze ones - 265/60/R18
All running the BFG KO2 tyre.
Best overland vehicle ever.
Looks like a fun time. I did enjoy Levuka myself. I can’t wait to go back again.
We're all heading there ain the last week of June. really looking forward to it. Cheers for sharing.
That terrain looked fun, and as always the D4's took it in their stride.
Yet another nice bit of driving by all concerned :)
Awesome track! A cool video too. As bad and tough as the track looks while dry and dusty, I bet it morphs into a nasty nightmare when wet and muddy...
Very much so, would not want to be anywhere near it in the wet and the rainforest sections are even worse (next video is the rainforest loop). I don't go in for driving mud on purpose.
@@sienaoverland Totally on the same page with you on that!
Muito bacana o vídeo!
thanks very much
Great video guys,did either of the discos have the e-diff fact option?Do beleive it's a worth while option to have?
Thanks Rick and no, none of us on this trip have an e-diff. As the terrain response has advanced it has improved and improved to the extent that you can do an amazing amount without an e-diff. However there are low-traction situations where the e-diff really shines and an e-diff equipped vehicle is smoother (I do have one friend with one on his). I'm talking very difficult steep, rocky, loose situations. So if you can get your hands on one with e-diff absolutely go for it, all other things being equal. If I'd known back in 2014 I would have specified one but I wouldn't change vehicles to get one.
The disco 4 is on of the best out there.
Couldn't agree more.
When at minute 8:30 the bottom touched the ground...did the car lifted up up automatically to super extended mode? thanks, great video!
It didn't raise to extended. I don't think it was wedged very hard and may have raised if he'd persevered. However that's the beauty of the Llams module, we simply turn the dial to High and it raises to equivalent of extended height, you clear the obstacle and then lower down to whatever height the rest of the track requires.
What rims do you have on if I may ask? Ever looked into getting proud rhino extenders (they sit on top of the air bags) Thanks (-:
Wheel & tyre details including links in video description. I don't consider extenders necessary and would not want the compromised handling anyway.
@@sienaoverland I'm considering them just in case in my long trip the bags blow or the compressor dies! Happened to me in the city, ride is very harsh and bouncy and very low and rubbing etc... Ever had any similar experience? Thanks,
I have not had any suspension issues but my Discovery is only 5 years old. I consider the risk of air bag failure to be very low. Compressor failure happens but only if it's in poor condition before the trip. If I was going on a long remote trip with a compressor of 7 or more years old, I would either service it or replace it. Most compressor problems give some warning and this is where a diagnostic tool is very useful; get the air bags up to normal height and disable the system so you don't lose air. Not a permanent fix but keeps you going if travelling remote. To me it's the same as maintaining coil or leaf suspension components before a big trip, just different components to consider.
are these lr4 equipped with the heavy duty package with the low range gear or you're pulling this off without it?
All Australian Discovery 4s (LR4) have low range & centre diff but only some have the rear e-diff (locking diff). None in this video have the e-diff.
Nice fellas. Can I ask are you sporting the Moab rims from 4WD 1 ?
No we have Tuffant steel wheels and/or Compomotive alloy wheels.
Apologies if I've missed it somewhere but what 'make and model' of tyre are you guys running? I see the size but not the other tyre details.
All running the BFG KO2. I'll update the description too.
What mode on the terrain response did you use for most of these obstacles?
Mostly used Rock Crawl for the technical stuff. Sometimes Mud Ruts if the going is slightly quicker but in those situations we sometimes leave the terrain response off.
Do these Tuff Ant wheels come to fit a Disco 3 ? .Also what offset do they have or do you guy's use Centric wheel adaptors?
Yes Tuffants would fit a D3 but as far as I know standard factory LR 18" wheels will fit because the D3 has smaller brakes. No wheel adapters required. There's a guide to fitment on the Tuffant website www.tuffant.com/fitment
@@sienaoverland Yes my D3 has 18's on it standard running 255 60/18s Maxxis 980's ,but was looking at offset rims purely for looks hahaha .
The D5 version of the Tuffant wheel looks the same but has a slightly wider stance due to reduced offset. Not technically legal for D3/D4 in Australia
you get around Scott, sound from snorkel just like mine
I don't really do much of this type of driving these days. Mainly outback touring now.
Awesome Vid!! Can anyone tell me what size tires your'e running on these trucks? cheers
Thanks. Details in the video description.
Are these stock suspension LRD4? Also what rim and tires size are you running? Thank you
Yes stock suspension but we all have the Llams module which lets the driver select heights such as extended height whenever you want. Rims are linked in the description. Tyres are also listed in the description.
hi, what brand rock sliders you running?
APT Offroad. They make some excellent protection products. aptoffroad.com.au
Hi Scoot what is LLAms in regards to extended mode - I have only got there once via the emergency prompts when the vehicle asked if i wanted extended mode - is that what you are referring to? Cheers
Typo Scott :)
Llams is an aftermarket controller that allows the driver to control the suspension height without the factory restrictions. So the available height range is unchanged, it's just that you can access it more easily. So for extended height if you have it on factory offroad height and know you'll need more for a particular obstacle, use the Llams dial to add an offset & you have the same height as extended. Hope that makes sense, very intuitive in practice.
Yes it does thanks very much @@sienaoverland
The reason why LR don't provide this as a driver option is pretty clear after watching this video. It might have its uses for the experienced off roader, but these drivers would have done well to use a standard level option to ensure all wheels remained, as much as possible, in contact with the ground. It just looks dangerous in some of these situations where there is ground contact with only 2 wheels.
While I agree that it requires experience to use Llams effectively and it is preferred to use the lowest practical suspension height in any given situation, I disagree that standard height works for some of the obstacles shown in this video. In fact, the use of Llams to add height allowed us to clear some sections and standard offroad height left us "beached". You can see this at 3:25 .... the extra height is required (see 3:50) and then further up the same hill I return to standard offroad height. You certainly want to minimise the use of an extended height because the suspension is much stiffer and traction harder to achieve as a result.
Looks amazing. Do these rim/tires rub at stock height?
The white D4 running 285/60/R18 does have very slight rubbing but I think only at access height. No rubbing anywhere for the other two running 265/60/R18
I’m in the tyre/rim market for a second set of agressive muds. Was there and advantages to the 285 over the 265? Was the rubbing of the 285 not worth the hassle? Cheers Owen
IMO not much advantage but some people always prefer to have the largest diameter. I have not found any difficulty with 265/60 when wheeling with others running 285/60 or 265/65. I don't want the hassle of a difficult to fit, fully deflated spare that hangs down pretty low (285). The rubbing itself doesn't seem to be a big issue but I think the 285 is getting a bit close to things on full lock. That's my take anyway.
Scott H thanks Scott. Value your feedback you certainly have got a nice D4. Do you have a preference from the Monsta or desert hawk?
I haven't had enough time driving the Monsta's off road yet to give proper feedback. My gut feel is both are good options.
Question, why are the headlights flashing for example on 1:40
The video frame rate picks up the LED pulsing that you can’t see by eye. Most LED driving lights have their output moderated like this but the D4 seems to show it on camera very strongly. I’m going to try 24fps in future.
@@sienaoverland No problem about that, i don't really mind. It looks kinda cool, just thought it was some kind of feature, thanks for the fast response!
What's your preference 265's or 285's ??
265 is good for everything I need it to do. I haven’t seen any advantage with 285 to be honest.
Are they home-made Rock sliders?
Edward Alder no they are by APT Offroad aptoffroad.com.au/browse-catalogue/discovery-3-4
So are the protection plates (compressor, transmission and front)
33inch tyre size?
Details in description
Why don't you guys use Johnson Rods ?
Why would we bother with an inferior option when the llams system is much more versatile. I can have almost any height I want at any time by combining a factory height setting with an appropriate offset using llams.
@@sienaoverland Ok thats cool mate hehe I was really thinking of the cost they both work ok i guess each to their own .By the way what offsets are you running or are you using wheel hub adapters or spacers as some call them
Yep, rods work but you are pretty much stuck with the increased height all the time. There's many times you don't want the extra height, so the flexibility and ease of Llams is well worth it to me.
@@sienaoverland yeah i know what you are saying .Normally the standard rise is in 2.5 inch segments ,but the rods lift from standard ..2.5 inches so at entry height you would be at drive height which i reckon i can live with that.If i want to go higher on the trail i would set them at drive height therefore giving me rock height also for sand driving at a faster pace, drive height won't lower the suspension. Also 32's can be on there permanent .They actually give 14" clearance on extended mode.then you have super extended mode to get you out of a tight spot.
Besides reliability, Do you guys think these LR4s are tough offroading than a landcruiser,4runner trd pro or lexux Lx/Gx?
In my opinion nothing is better offroad from stock and they are fantastic with just simple upgrades (18” wheels). Of course it depends on what type of “off-roading” you want to tackle as to how far you go with mods and upgrades to any 4wd
Just food for thought, having your suspension raised up so much kills all of the suspension articulation and causes all that bouncing, wheel lift and wheel spin you're getting. Lower them down, keep on the high spots and use a higher gear, let the wheels travel and you'll idle over that stuff. Then those tracks will be the roads you use to get to the 4wd stuff.
not the best off roader. Rubicon is the best. why? straight axcel and free sway bar. 4 wheels always on the ground. never lifted. if not the death wobbling, straight axcel is the best for rock crawling.
4runner thats easy
I could walk that trail no problem and show your 4running what for. Trucks are overrated why bother spending all that money when everyone has feet!!