How to make these Alternative Dovetail Joints (The Knapp Joint)
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In this woodworking video, I show you how to make an alternative dovetail joint - The Knapp Joint. If you enjoy making or learning how to make dovetail joints, you will really enjoy the woodworking tips that I share in this project video.
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Every school needs a woodwork teacher like you man. You put just as much effort into describing your work as your do with the practical side. Cheers for the videos mate!! 👌🏻
Do they still do woodwork in schools these days?
Thanks very much Alan! :)
@@CelticSaint yes! I am a wood shop teacher. I don't teach this joint though😬 But I do teach dove tails. Hanover PA. USA.
@@CelticSaint My school still has all the equipment but its not its own thing, its used sometimes by the FFA.
Uncharted territory, making tools so you can build something that nobody is doing. Hats off to you sir .
Dedication at its finest
I want him to show us how to make that patented thingy that is made for doing them... :-D
@@nickbrutanna9973 Look up the patent, it'll have diagrams of all the important parts
Check out watchmaking videos. Seems like half of the job is making tools to do the job.
Makes a dovetail joint look like childs play. Well done!
This is the exact definition of working with what you have
Phenomenal. I get this joint as a request for Joint of the Week all the time. No chance I'm trying it now. You just wrote the book, manual and bible. Great work my friend.
Hahaha I sent a request to you to do that too Jonathan :-)
You can build on this!
It is refreshing to see heat treatment done properly on KZhead, this is the first time I have seen it.
For heat treatment porn go watch clickspring.
@@thehorriblebright Oh god yes
@@thehorriblebright Or go to Alec Steele's channel.
Dude ...how could someone thumbs down this haha the amount of work 😳
I have projects I want to build, then I watch your videos and want to build jigs all day long! Please keep up the excellent work!
I have always had great admiration for people who know how to use tools well. You are the next level creating your own bits and jigs like that. Absolutely awesome sir! Beautiful joint too!
always worth seeing his carpentry skills , the mans a genius .
Awesome. We just don't see this kind of thing anymore. Time is money which drives today's world but it's great to see that you took the time to be a real craftsman. Well done.
You are the Master of Invention.... You always find a way to accomplish what you want to achieve even if you do not have the exact tools. True inspiration. Aussie Aussie Aussie
LOVE the joint - don't see me doing it though. Just a bit too ... fiddly. Might try knitting with my toes ..or braiding nose hairs into corn rows or something a little less challenging. 🤣🤣🤣
I couldn't see the smileys so i don't know if you are joking. Knitting using toes is tough sir! That's some crazy level out there.
braiding nose hairs into corn rows is nothing to sneeze at...
I don’t do any sort of wood working. But this video has totally made me wish I did.
I think I counted about 19 tools he has I don't own, so I'll just enjoy his work skills!
Thought I was clicking on a joint rolling vid but stayed for the expert woodworking
my grandmother had a chest of drawers with joints like these, your the first person to know anything about them. I was beginning to think i was nuts
I like how you say "I'll need to put my thinking cap on" to find an upcoming project to use this joint method after having designed and solved a method by which to create the joint in the first place.
one of the most beautiful joints i have ever seen. i think it must be obvious when used in furniture, not hidden. every piece of furniture would become the true piece of art with this joint exposed. thank you for sharing this with us.
Hooray - a really informative video with no annoying music - Thanks
Im cnc working brain and when I see work like yours Im delighted. Dam good work !!!
Oh boy was that a labor of love! The patience of a saint.
I'm stoned and clicked on this expecting a video about joints. Still wasn't disappointed. Nice video man
LMAO😂
legend!
Im not used to this kind of joints too :v
I was watching till the end always thinkig it is about Joints. Hoping they would say it at the end what it has to do about Joints😂
a nice mull of acorns...eh?
Very nicely done indeed. I’ve been building furniture and boats for over fifty years and always wanted to try this type of joint. Thanks so much for the information and expertise. C.D. Springstead, boat builder, and board member, Finger Lakes Boating Museum, Hammondsport, New York, USA
this is the first time i've ever seen this joint and i'm determined to have this on every piece of furniture i own someday
Nicolle I have several pieces with these joints in my possession right now... I restore antiques and vintage furniture and turn old washstands into functional pieces of art Www.facebook.com/wildeyedeagle.design
I'm a carpenter and my grandfather was a furniture maker. But this is the first time I have seen it. Looks fun, so I am going to try and maybe use it in a project myself.
That's great to hear Peet! :)
Ah the utilitarian. The problem solving here is beautiful. Smart man you are.
my work has become more and more dependent on CNC machines, but seeing you make all of this with your hands was so refreshing and relaxing, thank you
Neil, I don't know what you do for a living, but you are a cut above the average youtube improvisor. Thank you for all the ideas sir.
Being a Knapp for 36 years never heard of this joint before. Glad my name's on something useful.
Well done! I have a friend and former broworker at Shopsmith, Jim McCann, who produced a beautiful version of the Knapp joint that was featured on a lingerie cabinet that was featured in one of the Fine Woodworking design books. His scallops were almost full circles, so he renamed it the Beaver Tail Joint. He hand cuts his tails on a scroll saw, which as you can imagine takes a ton of skill and lots of time. I’ve passed the link to this vid on to him and I’m sure he will appreciate your approach and will relate to your journey! Thanks for sharing, Scott
The beaver tail joint sounds cool and cut by hand - wow! :)
Sir - you are by far one of the best and most ingenious woodworker on yt. hat off yours. Greetings from germany.
I looked at the main thumbnail picture, thought that looks way to complicated for me and ignored the video for a while. I watched it eventually and so glad I did, you make the complex and scary seem quite possible (even for me). Thanks your an inspiration!
That should be called the “Brass Knuckle Joint” looks to be amazingly strong and beautiful to boot
In one word: Wow! With a father and two grandfathers who were carpenters, I had never seen anything like this.
was just having that conversation with my dad, neither of us had heard of it and as many of the woodworking shows he watches on saturday morning PBS they hadn't ever shown it. Thinking someone needs to write This Old House and see if they can get Tommy to explain it...
I have a cnc machining center in my shop that is underused. Now to find the drive to start.
Pity they weren’t cabinetmakers ....
Fantastic build and tutorial! Spot on mate the Explanation again in this video is second to none! (That in itself is a gift mate) What sets your videos apart from other YT videos is, we're NEVER left thinking "I don't get it" - which is what makes it a great video tutorial (rather than just ok or good).. Great British backyard engineering and problem solving at its finest! 👍🏴🇬🇧
Ingenuity at its best. A very skilled workman.
Hey, just wanted to say what an inspiration you are to me. After watching your videos I've been inspired to try woodworking myself. Sadly, I live in an apartment in UAE (i am from India) and have no access to wood or woodworking space and am just a 15 year old. Hopefully i will remember your channel try to make something myself when i will be older. P.S your videos are great especially the scrapwood challenge
Same I would love to do more woodwork.
I know what you mean by living in an apartment, especially with a family. I was in an apartment for 8 years until I had enough and left town with my family and we found a house (much cheaper) with a single car garage, which I'm now converting into a shop. Now I'm buying tools again. I am excited to get started! I am 60. (Dang, that is weird writing down that large number!)
Keep your goal. So.edsy, you will have all the woodworking tools you need.
Imaduddin Zanjani all you really need to start woodworking is a saw, a plane, and a couple of chisels. You could start with some small projects in your apartment. Look into some resources like Japanese style woodworking or western style woodworkers like Paul Sellers where most everything is done by hand to get you started. It’s also a good way to get a good foundation in basic skills.
A simple and usually free resource for wood is old pallets. Many places are always looking to get rid of them.
I've seen these joints on old furniture and wondered how they were made. After watching this I want to start making some of my own.
Recently found an old dresser with mirror and glove boxes with this joint on the drawers. I restored it, and its beautiful.
Thanks for sharing! My Grandfather's marble-top dresser has these joints on the drawer sides. I first noticed them years ago and thought, "...Well, look at that!"!
Overwhelmed with the creativity and simplicity of this magnificent joint. Very, very impressive!!! Thank you!!
Glad you liked it Scott! :)
Scott Barrett kj@l@lzz
Can't believe I've been woodworking for like 8 years and this is my first time seeing this lol. That's really cool!
You just keep getting better. Very impressive.
This is beyond skill and genius. Pleasure to watch.
Aaaand there's my weekend project. Thank you AGAIN for a wonderful idea for my weekend! Your ideas give me a bit of peace.
Glad you like it! :)
@@PaskMakes ...and I'm really looking forward to the weekend, got my wood together already, spruce for testing, beech and red alder for the final piece, grinding my drill tonight.
I never knew I wanted to do this until I saw this video.
The joint is beyond beautiful!
Those joins are absolutely beautiful. So clever.
I'm so glad Matthias sent me here 😍
What the hell matthias is my friggen brother.
I'm trying to figure out how people give this a thumbs down? This was awesome.
Because the internet. Logic says one in twenty humans are horrible little shits.
Because they feel they're not talented enough to do something like this, so they have to shit on those that are. I don't think I could ever do what he did, but rather than be jealous, I'm impressed... in awe...I aspire to even be half the carpenter he is.
Trump's Tiny Hands 1 in 20? I thought it wood be higher.
Bots. There are bots that generate likes for certain videos to push them higher up in the algorithm, so that they start getting shown to actual people. Those bots need to behave similar to humans, so they can't just like one video, and they like & dislike random other videos to fool the bot detectors. 345 out of 15K is such a low number that it seems to me like it must be bots and maybe misclicks.
@@Blitterbug So you're saying that people are not entitled to their opinion unless it matches your own? What a horrible little shit you are.
This is a no nonsense, extremely informative video. This is being resourceful at its best !!!!!
You have a lot more patience than I am capable of........ awesome work sir!
I've always wanted to make that joint! Thanks for sorting it out Neil!!
No worries! :)
Such a beautiful joint, wonderfully executed. I love seeing your thinking process and how you make your jigs and templates. You've got yourself a new subscriber.
I got here through a suggested video, sometimes youtube gets it right. A very cool joint and a well made video.
I have no idea how I got here but I'm glad I did. Lol great video 💙🐝💙
Absolutely fantastic, unforgettable, masterful.
I am really impressed with your problem solving abilities. I can see myself building some of those jigs to solve other problems I am having at the moment.
I'll be watching more of your videos as this was really interesting.
Late to the game but thanks for this. And kudos for keeping the slight missteps or imperfections in the process. I love that you didn’t have a spare bit to hand, so you worked out something else. And figured out easier ways AFTER doing it. Real life … and that’s how innovation works anyway.
I've been wanting to make a tool box out of wood and this joint looks like it would be perfect. Both strong and decorative. Maybe a good idea for a scrap wood challenge
I had seen this joint on an old organ wind box and wondered how they made them in production. Excellent video, thank you. Lincoln, NE, USA
Why does KZhead show me these videos at bedtime? I should be sleeping, but I can't stop watching. Beautiful workmanship.
That is a very beautiful joint. You remind me of my grandpa. He very very rarely bought any wood working tools. He would make them. He was a wood working genius. He would do stuff just like this all the time. My hats off to you sir. Beautiful work.
Amazing. I can’t get enough of people doing their own mods.
This is a superb wood working book I`ve ever read, t.co/z6o0f8z2H4 . Both novice and some skilled woodworker can gain a lot of general info using this reading material. I`ve been very amazed how frequently I use this to look up woods at places like to restore and salvage spots.?
If I’d learned as much from every video on KZhead that I’ve watched, I would be one of the most educated people on earth
Excellent video... a blend of old woodwork and modern machinery. The first joint you made that was very tight, reminded me of when I was stationed overseas years ago. I watched a Dutchman make a cabinet. He used this joint as well as various other tight fitting joints. That man never used a single nail or a drop of glue. He created the drawer pulls by recessing “hidden” finger holds behind the drawer face. It was beautiful, with a various mix of hardwoods. He hand rubbed it with linseed oil. Then I remembered reading books on furniture making in the traditional way, when craftsman didn’t use nails or glue. Your Knapp joint was simply beautiful.
love the joint have seen this in many pieces of furniture, but never had the time to figure out a simple method to make them. This is very clear. thanks!
"Simple" lol
@@774471jr ha! nice. once you have the jigs made though, it really isn't too complicated. even those are not difficult for a carpenter who is worth his salt.
You tackle the hard projects, and this is why I love your channel so much. Thanks for sharing your talents.
Your video's are what motivates me to go out into the old barn in my summer house to clear it of all the heavy junk and tear down the walls. Just to make a wood working space for me and my old man.
I really appreciate that you show all the attempts that didn’t work. Show’s just how much effort you had to put into this!
This Old Tony would be a good collaboration on this.
Matthias Wandel's Pantorouter would make it a snap.
Yes but he would probably make aluminum drawers... That actually sounds pretty cool
@@mrjp2149 yes ! with his new/old cnc machine (MAHO). Wooden drawers with alluminium or stainless steel fronts.
@@caliguladeuxThat's true he did get it running!
TOT would make a knuckle duster and beat it into submission. But in reality a form tool with sharp edges could be used with a press. Basically like a cookie cutter idea.
I love how much of a perfectionist you are. Wish i could come stay, build and learn from you for a month
Looks like a great way to join beehive boxes. Looks great too. Thanks
I love and hate watching your videos Pask. Love it because they are amazing and hate them because adds one more thing I want to try to an ever growing list. Your sometimes simple, yet overly effective, approach to any problem inspires me to try them all. Keep making vids and inspiring all of us. Thanks.
That's a beautiful joint. I'll definitely have to mark this for future reference. Thank you for sharing with us.
beautifully complicated over engineered joint, gotta love it :D
That really does look slick. Doing joints like that in a home shop will blow people's minds.
I am SO glad I took wood & metal shop all thru high school. 40 years later and I still use those skills everyday! Even though I have a desk job. I do not have the most expensive tools but I have a full shop and love to repair stuff that others would just throw away. It is also great fun to make one of a kind toys for the family children at Christmas. For those just starting out. The first tools I would buy 1: small band saw 2: power drill 3: router. With these three tools you could make a lot of furniture, etc. Later you can buy power sanders to save you time, and a bench top table saw can help with repeatable, accurate cuts. Be safe and have fun forever.
It is great to see someone finding these older ways of doing things and reteaching them again. Beautiful joint and thx for sharing it.
What a neat solution to make this cool looking joint! I'm definitely going to try this. I also love the idea of scribing a line to reduce chip out. I'll be stealing that idea for all sorts of jobs. Thank you!
Glad you liked it Mike! :)
It's a super useful technique it very quickly makes your work look better and cleaner.
Knife walls/cut lines are 0ld Sk00l joinery techniques. They're tried and true. Paul Sellers may have invented them during the bronze age. ;)
I admire your patience, making that jig is one hell of a tedious job.
Plus he makes it look soo easy😭
Wow! That was quite a little journey there to get to the finished joint. Very well done sir.
Fascinating to watch! Thanks, Neil!
I don’t know how I got here?! But this was fascinating. I’d never do this, have the talent, skills, patience or tools but I still watched the whole thing 😂
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
same
I'm a novice woodworker but damn, I'm keen to give this a crack
My dad was a carpenter. This is the sort of thing he used to do. It was a pleasure watching you work - nice to see your attention to detail.
Just wanted to say that I really appreciate your videos. very 'honest' and authentic. helpful to normal people. :)
You did well on this and I give you absolutely major points for going about it in the frontier perspective. I am impressed with your problem solving technique. Thanks for sharing this gem! All the best to you and yours!
Just for fun, I'd like to see you test the joint for strength. It's obviously strong, a ton of glue area. Unique look as well.
Great work, and I like your video technique; no unnecessary explaining when we can see what you are doing, and no annoying music. Good job!
Inspiring work! I’ve never been fond of dovetail joints. I can make them, but I just don’t think they’re all that great looking. I know it’s sacrilege amongst woodworkers but I think box joints and splined miters are much nicer looking. This joint, though, is beautiful! And the level of craftsmanship required should be obvious to anyone. You make it look so easy, too. It’s said you can do anything if you have the right tools; I guess that’s even more true when you know how to MAKE the right tools! If I can manage to make myself a good template and plug cutter, I’ll be using this joint a LOT! Thanks so much for this excellent video!
When you see THIS on a piece of antique furniture you know it's the real thing. BUY IT!
I have only seen it once in hundreds of antique shops.
@@thomasarussellsr I've seen a few (and bought one!) on mostly Eastlake pieces.
Admirado por tu gran inteligencia . Increíble capacidad de resolver problemas . Felicitaciones amigo.
You are painstakingly replicating by hand a joint that was created for mass production by machinery. I do like how they look. Great work!
A masterful application of years of evident experience. Well done. Nice joint!
This looks like something a 3d printer would be a huge help with. With a CAD file the template could be printed and then followed with a router to make the wood version which would be strong enough to use as the guide. I reckon I'll try that method
I love the ingenuity...I'm going to use the spade bit trick to make my own plug cutter!
Despite this comment coming from a man who sometimes struggle to figure out which end of the nail to wallop into the -metal- wood, this video was watched in it's entirety, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I think this is my new Favorite joint
Thoroughly enjoyed that! Thanks for showing all the details Neil. Very unique joint.