Cube1337x has beaten Brentilda's world record in Minecraft 1.16 Any% RSG. It took 9 months, but the second sub ten finally happened, and Cube's 9:08 stands alone as the greatest run in 1.16 history.
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Extra thanks to Cube and Four for helping out with this video.
Background music (in order):
Yu-Utsu - Sun
T-120 - Long Gone
Foewi - Close
HurricaneTurtle - Vibe
Synth Kid - They Mostly Come At Night
bignic - Chairs
HOME - Native
HOME - Nights (I Wish I Could Be There)
Max James - Undercover
HOME - We're Finally Landing
Outro prod. NickHitt Beats: • [FREE] Drake Type Beat...
This video is about the new Minecraft world record, the cube1337x Minecraft Speedrun record. This isn’t a fake speedrun, or a fake Minecraft world record. This video is about the new Minecraft 1.16 world record by cube1337x.
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The fact that Brentilda predicted it was funny
What did he say?
@@AbbasDalal1000 that it was faked
You’ll never know how I got liked >:)
Ikr
I wonder what his reaction is
The fact that the nether split in this run is over 2 minutes slower than horsey's wr nether split really shows how far the category can still be pushed.
This isn't even correct. Cube entered nether about 1:45 and left about 7:45 including the double travel (I'm rounding a bit), so 6 minutes. Brentilda entered about 2:45 and left about 8:15, so 5.5 minutes. 30 seconds difference, not two minutes. And it furthermore ignores the double travel in cube's run, which deliberately adds nether time in order to reduce overworld time. Cube's original blind -- exactly how he would have played the seed if the chests had had six obsidian instead of 16 -- was at about 6:45. 5 minutes in the nether, so faster than Brentilda. Their actual times in the nether not counting any kind of post-fortress-split travel at all are very close (because Brentilda had to travel to the divine coords). Yeah, hypothetical nether splits faster than Cube's in this run are very possible. He's shown that himself in other runs, so have many others. But this isn't an illustration of it.
@@BlueCyann I don't think they're talking about brentildas split. I think they are saying the fastest ever
@@inkballer I agree, but Jake could've phrased it bettter
@@Dadusak fixed
@@BlueCyann hes not talking about brentilda and why are you so mad?? 😂 😂 😂 ratio
Brentilda: *Gets a sub 10 WR* Him after 9 months: Someone's gonna beat it in the next 24 hours Cube: *Breaks the record* Everyone: WTF?!
telling you, we are living in a simulation and brentilda is behind all of this
The only person how can break the brentilda curse is brentilda himself
It’s called having no life
@@pinkgoergefloyd8340 okay, boomer
@@pinkgoergefloyd8340 yes. having no life gives you the ability to predict the future
This is literally so insane, can't believe brentlida's record finally got beaten! Also, this premier is literally at six am for me.
3am for me 😭
1am for me lol :(
2am I think for me 😐
@@oddmanfisheyes same
@@oddmanfisheyes Same ;(
my favorite thing about watching these runs is when they're being streamed and I get to see how everyone in chat just collectively loses their minds once they realize what just happened
This one was so good too because the perch was so obvious and it's cube with five explosives, you know he's not going to fail it, so you have ten or so seconds of knowing it's happening, it's going to be WR before the dragon actually dies. It was great. There hasn't been a WR in the category like it since Illumina's IMO and that was almost a year ago.
@@BlueCyann Yeah, all the discord servers were going crazy with pings when he entered the end sub 8 with 5 explosives. A historical moment.
i remember from Brentildas run, when he reached the stronghold, one guy in the chat wrote im about to come lmao
0:13 look at chat
@@DueySR actually he had 6 🧐
Fun fact: while crafting eyes, brentilda placed the lava bucket in the crafting menu, similarly, cube put a water bucket in the crafting slot So moral of the story for top runners: put a milk bucket while crafting eyes to get world record if on good pace
😂😂😂😂
THATS TRUE I DID NOT EVEN NOTICE
I just noticed it and I was ready to leave a comment. Why is life so unfair
Facts right here xd
Lmao
The Weekly Thing is so kind to the speedrunning community, with it's viewers and runners alike. They always give so many compliments to each and every runner that gets a good run, even to the runners who don't, and it's heartwarming. A sub-10 may be better than a sub-20 but the thing about why all speedrunners will always be the best is because each speedrunner is always, quite literally, just ahead of their time.
Cube held multiple records and is still holding lots at the time, it’s awesome to see him finally getting talked about and getting the attention he’s been deserving for a long time. Don’t get me wrong, he’s already well known, but it’s another level of popularity when everyone talks about him. Huge congratulations!
hes not well known lol. Yeah in the minecraft community maybe.
@@flipnshifty thats what they meant. most speedrunners arent outside of the mc community
@@flipnshifty yeah and thats what this is about isnt it?? the minecraft community???
@@flipnshifty yeah, how many MC players are well known outside the MC community wtf
@@uruacufutsal1 sorry
it finally happened! hopefully you're still gonna make that close WRs vid, i would really like to see that one
Agreed
Still making that!
@@TheWeeklyThing if the wr won't get broken for a few years you have no content left at some time (jk) lol
@@TheWeeklyThing WidePag
@@juhiss912 im trying to play 1.18 but it says game crashed but my mom told me it would be fixed if i get 5 subs before my dads birthday (2/23) and i NEED THAT since i feel very lonely and bullied and made fun of
Nice video, few additions/clarifications for those who care a lot about the details: All of the strats I’ll mention here have been invented since Brent’s WR. 3:57 The Wall macro used by Cube was invented by jojoe77777, popularized/developed by Specnr 4:20 Mapless invented by Makattak and TalkingMime 6:00 Bridge is mostly still considered the worst bastion overall, even after this run. One noteworthy thing about this run is Bridge has the worst chance to get 20 Obsidian due to its relative lack of chests, yet Cube easily got 20 obby. 8:36 Task overlapping hoglin kill with trades isn’t done very often (mostly due to circumstance) but is a pretty nice timesave. 8:47 He actually has 6 explosives (3 anchors and 3 beds) but only crafts 5 at the end fight. 9:32 WillBe invented this Wither Skeleton AI manip strat 11:09 There does exist a method for doing perfect travel in one’s head, but it is considered too difficult to do in runs (for good reason). 11:16 Prior to calculators being unbanned, Cube was one of the earliest top runners to start using Perfect. He did this using a spreadsheet which contains each angle and the possible stronghold locations. 12:45 700 blocks is only a bit better than average of 1000, but the 99% is quite good, average is 70%. If his accuracy were lower he might’ve thrown an additional eye. 700 is still pretty good because of the good terrain to the coordinates and because of him having double travel. 13:28 The stronghold nav in this run is really really good and linear, which saved him a ton of time. 13:41 He could’ve gone for zero cycle, another strat invented since brent’s WR, mostly by Matthew bolan and t_wagz with his 6 explosives but chose not to. And thanks for the credit on perfect, shouting out strat developers is always appreciated.
I remember when specnr got a 6:59 on FSG
Nope, treasure bastion is the worst by far (for 1.16.1 rsg)
279 days… that is how long it’s been since the weekly thing was weekly
@ds u good
Great rundown of a great run, truly a legendary event!
If Brentilda blind into portal room, Cube's stronghold nav definitely stands out
@Lika wilsa What surprises me is that there are like 5 different languages in that comment
GG to Cube, he really deserved it. Everyone was so distracted by Crookst’s skill that they didnt see cube get sub 5 blind, AA WR, and top times in other versions
7:20 was honestly terrifying
unnecessarily added holy 😂
Crazy that the 9-minute barrier was almost broken without pause abuse it would be the cherry on top if they didn't use a calculator (I don't care that a calculator was used I just think it would be cool if he did it without)
"would be the cherry on top if they didn't use a calculator" ok karl jobst
Wouldn't have got the wr without the calculator but ok
@@w8754 ye he never said they did but ok
The real cherry on top would have been it being a no f3 run in half a heart hardcore shieldless. Stfu, please
@@w8754 normal perfect travel isn’t that much slower. He very much could’ve gotten it without a calculator
Ah, I remember when you were uploading these videos almost every day with all the insane world records being broken. Glad to be back!
11:05 I still can’t believe they allow tool-assisted speedruns in normal RSG. Absolutely insane decision.
@@ThatRandomNova If anything, pauses should be allowed and calculators disallowed. Pausing is a strategy the player does themselves, while calculators are external tools.
using a calculator = literally going frame by frame to make a theoretically perfect speedrun ?????
@@RichConnerGMN Tas means assisted by tools, it doesn't exactly mean that. Tasses can be any tool, which includes frame by frame.
@@ThatRandomNova so you are also saying that new strategies shouldn't be allowed because past runners didn't have them?
Agreed. If players want to use it, it should be an entirely separate category.
Y’all gotta put that Brentilda’s record was broken in the title or thumbnail! Nearly mistook this for a more niche WR
That moment when the summary of a run is twice the length of the actual run
Yes
i think its analysis not summary so it makes sense
I love the humor thrown into this video. The piglin-are-sheep rant, the embarrassing of the wither skeletons. I need this type of commentary in all future videos
so hyped for this, I already know it's gonna be a banger
very well put-together video as always! great work!
You have come so far I remember when you had 10k subscriber’s and I subscribed even though I stopped Minecraft speed running you kept my love for the game alive thank you
I just love how nerdy minecraft speedruns are, the techniques used are amazing, second to none
I knew TWT would do this story justice when the run eventually came, and I was right, another great video
Thank you for the way you presented and explained everything. I really enjoyed it!
Awesome analysis! I've always been really interested in minecraft speedrunning and you broke everything down clearly. Much appreciated!
Speedrunning is so crazy to me. I've only just gotten into watching content about it and I am blown away by how skilled people are at doing this
The fact that this video is almost twice as long as the run is amazing
Great video as always, you do such a good job of making new stats easy to understand
I just started getting into watching speedrunning this weekend, the timing of this amazing run was convenient Amazing job cube!
Gotta agree with Karl Jobst on this one using calculators in runs shouldn't be allowed because that makes it essentially a tool assisted speedrun, it's not as bad as the pause abuse was, but it's not much better
But shouldn't the pie chart be allowed then it's also a tool.
And perfekt travel still requires a lot of skill to be able to do it right.
@@viktoranderas9541 it's different if the tool is available within the game, because you're just using what the game gives you. Also just because it still requires skill doesn't mean it should be allowed.
@@ryszardsikora6894 pausing isn't allowed to a certaint extent it's in the game.
@@ryszardsikora6894 and speedrun ers don't play vanilla they use mods wich also are tools.
I love the video! it gives summoning salt vibes and that's not something im opposed too
Thank you for such insightful videos every time!
I love you analysis vids. I keeps me understanding what's what without really being able to do it myself. Thank you and keep up the good work
amazing analysis. great video TWT ❤
Hello potato
Hello pie25
doctor: you have 10 minutes to live Cube: *beats the ender dragon*
got the vid out so fast good work man
jesus that was a fire video. absolutely stunning editing
Massive congrats to Cube1337x! Though I wish there was a Pure RSG category: No pauses, no F3 screen, no calculators, no mods, normal mode... just pure Minecraft.
hyper vanilla may be what you looking for
@Mohaiba Cheating according to whom? Literally the entire minecraft speedrunning community disagrees.
So excited already!
OH ITS YOU I LOVE UR VIDS
Hydaddy
@@Chronickel OMEGA ?
:Brentilda:
I appreciate the great deal of effort put into this video. Also congrats to cube he literally beat what everyone thought was impossible. I can’t wait for the new potential records in the future, and strategies. Still blows my mind how many different strategies there are.
I love how you approached the calculator part, great vid :)
I was there when brentilda got that sub 10 run, but this is simply crazier
brentilda's was a sub 10 minecraft speedrun, but cube actually beat minecraft in under 10 minutes.
which chatter were you
Probably hahahhahahahahhahahahahahahha
This isn’t crazier he got much luckier than brentilda with 16 obsidian in a chest that’s absurdly rare and he also used a robot
@@gladiator0001 And brentilda paused to think for a solid 2 minutes + got a 1 in multiple thousand divine travel
"Seeing that he can't go through it, he goes over it". That resonated with "We're going on a bear hunt" enjoyers. Thank you, TWT.
Awesome video, als always! Keep up the great work
Vids just keep getting better fr
He actually beated Marco in combined rsg no way, now marco’s gonna get a sub 8 now
quite a cool TAS run
Thank you for the starting song I love Sun. One of my favorites to listen to while laying in bed. Calming af
I knew cube would be the one to do it, been rooting for him for months now
Only when brentilda lifted the curse could his record be broken
stealing pikaJ's joke i see
stealing pikaJ's joke i see
@@Kino-Imsureq stealing my reply i see
stealing pikaJ's joke i see
Third sub-10 ever! Second place to big tony’s legendary 9:06 but impressive still!
it's not a sub 9....
@@MHCryptics just a typo
these speedruns are amazing but SO ARE YOUR VIDEOS! the quality of these vides, storytelling ability, and everything that you put together to make these videos is nothing short of amazing!
love to see the some soundtrack summoning salt used
Finally,the curse is gone!Cube has done it! My prediction: Crookst is going to beat this record in the next week.
With cubes being over 30 seconds faster, I doubt it
With cubes being over 30 seconds faster, I doubt it
@@arrsea7947 why tf u copy my comment word for word?
@@depagogd1426 lmao
With cubes being over 30 seconds faster, I doubt it
Unfortunately I can't take this run seriously as Cube used a calculator which I was seriously opposed to since it's unbanning, however props to them; unbelievable run that shouldn't be shunned due to this, after all since it's unbanned you might as well use it. Great video as always!
Totally right, I also wrote a comment like 10 sec ago ablut the same thing xD, this is just tool assisted speedrun now
"I can't take this run seriously" "unbelievable run that shouldn't be shunned due to this" ???
@@DueySR yes, I feel that this run leaves a sour taste in my mouth although Cube did unbelievably for the entire run up untill that point
I was waiting for Home - We're Finally Landing the whole time! Thank you for including it!
Love the music in your videos bro!
Mark my words @TheWeeklyThing this wr will start a chain reaction of sub 9 runs leading up to a sub 8 that will seem as unbeatable as Brentillda's now FWR
These world records are getting more insane each month.
babe wake up the weekly thing uploaded
Thank you for explaining! I knew while watching Cube's video that what he did was amazing, but i didn't know the ins and outs of why
12:11 I mean cmmon, if you say it is about beating the game as fast as possible by using engines then why dont we just do tas or ssg, or even glitched tas. Rsg is about a runner who knows how to beat the game as fast as possible by using a random seat with the same odds of beating the game as everyone else. Calculators just take away a very unique and difficult skill. Before it was allowed it was a big hustle for runners to calculate well and now we just play tas. This isnt great at all. Despite all that cubes run was insane and he deserves the wr but i just had to say it because from my point of view calculators arent allowed in a math test when it is about calculating. But i guess i have to accept it. Very insane run :)
if the speedrun category was 'calculating perfect travel' then no calculators shouldnt be alloewd. in a calclulus test - you are allowed a calculator. Its harder without one but still possible, but you are allowed one. that being said, using third party tools does feel a little bit less genuine
using a calculator = literally going frame by frame to make a theoretically perfect speedrun ?????
Those calculators do things a speedrunner can do. It isnt even necessary, that sucks. Brentildas run Was so insane because of his divine travel skills. This part misses in the new wr
@@sackfoga3779 calculators literally tell you where the stronghold is, how is that unnecessary? And also brentilda's divine wasn't even skill, it was just pure luck. You don't know what you're talking about.
What if a better calculator will be developed that can deduct the world seed from the initial spawn screenshot and show the location of everything as well as if the seed is worth playing, will it be okay too? Calculators should be banned.
Slippery slope fallacy.
well that wouldnt be able to humanly possible like the thing the calculator does. its just highly inconvineint to have to gain that skill along with the speedrunning skills so they leave it too a calculator.
That would be against the rules, no reverse engineering the seed.
Speed running Minecraft is crazy to me, keen to see some new records
This is a fantastic analysis of the run
This is the power of the Finnish SISU
Amazing run, that can still be optimized! The fact that the wr was beaten with the help of a bot ain't gonna sit well with a lot of people, but I don't think even this record will be unbeatable if they ban calculators again
You can beat it this time without calculators. Illumina was on faster pace once, so was Dylqn, probably some of the other fast ends/strongholds as well from runners I don't know as much about. As far as I know the consensus is still that the fastest time that will ever be obtained will probably be something like a low 5 blind directly from the spawners that leads into an ocean overworld less than 300 blocks from an ocean-exposed portal room. Enter end sub 6, or maybe a little above if the player has to set up for zero cycle. In that scenario, the non-calculator runner is a few seconds faster since they just throw one eye for rough direction and go. The question is likelihood and I don't think anybody's settled that yet. Double travel calculator runs are infinitely more reliable when possible, but they do take time to carry out. Less than a minute from first portal to second portal like here is on the fast side by a bit. I wish they would have split the categories, though.
Awesome video, really well made! :)
Great work! I don’t think you need to pull so heavily from Summoning Salt at the end with We’re Finally Landing and emulating his style though, you did a great job throughout and developing your own voice would be good for your growth. Good job!
I definitely think that using mods that calculate stronghold locations like that should not be allowed. Impressive run but ruins it for me 100%.
Had to figure out something to make up for the mods idiotic decision of allowing Brentilda’s pause abuse lmao
Community vote which was carried out around 2 months ago resulted in a majority for the unban of calculators so fortunately or not, they are allowed.
Agreed. How far this will go? Why don't just use AMIDST to locate the Stronghold?
It’s not a mod lol. What gave you that idea?
Agreed. Minecraft runs with pause abuse and calculators are just lame. Now at least one of the two will be in all runs.
I think using ninjabrain bot is unfair and it is a TAS, it’s still not cheating. Mods shouldn’t have allowed the use of it. Cube took advantage of it at the right time.
Agreed
"Nooo, you can't use Summoning Salt's music!" "Ahah, We're Finally Landing goes brrrrrrr."
I loved the way you did the ending of this video. Just let us really enjoy his win. Chur.
So its basically turning into a tas category now
We've replaced an incredible run that a bunch of idiots complained about because of an allowed feature, with an incredible run a bunch of idiots will complain about because of an allowed feature but seriously though thats an incredible run well done cube
The difference is the allowed feature is an external TAS feature as opposed to a feature of the game itself. Nothing against cube as he was just his resources and what was allowed, and it's still a great achievement, but I don't think this should have been allowed in the first place
I love watching the chats pop off in these, such a special moment to share
I love how the consensus on the best bastion type has come full circle since the abandonment of classic strats.
I hate that calculation tools are allowed in these runs, it's like there's always something holding back mc runs from being cool to watch lol
Feel like you kind of glossed over the fact that the bot doesn't just "help" do the math quicker, it can do things that are not able to be done on the fly by a human.
It doesn't matter because people already found tricks to do calculations using F3 without a bot, and people would likely find tricks to do perfect travel without a bot. If you don't like using a bot, then look into the No F3 category
I agree...i really dont like that they allow bots in the normal RSG......
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Jobst stan wants that outrage back so bad lol
The best new years gift is new videos from this channel ❤️
background music on point as always
Why is no one talking about calculated travel.Nothing against cube or even with this run but calculated travel makes RNG completely luck based and minimazes skill. Also this is completely unfair against previous runs, for example Brentilda's world record run stand out because calculators were not allowed at the time, I just think this is unfair.
but brentilda used a cheat sheet for divine travel instead of memorizing it that is basically the same thing
"why is no one talking about" you mean except for everybody who is? People who are actually around the community are sick of it by now. The debate is over, it's done and dusted. We don't need people who know nothing about speedrunning coming in with ignorant comments like that it "makes RNG completely luck based" like 1. I think you mean RSG and 2. it actually reduces luck factors by a lot. Or thinking it's unfair to previous runs when there isn't a single previous run aside from Brentilda's within almost a minute (way more time than the bot saved, assuming he could have hit the stronghold with a manual method from 700 blocks -- a decent chance if not a certainty). And when Brentilda's record had its own issues in that regard, having made use of pause rules that subsequent runners couldn't take advantage of. There are plenty of problems and plenty of unfairness to go around, but you're not informed enough to have an opinion on it.
So you think just hitting the portal room blind like Brentilda takes more skill?
Well no, its not like Brentilda could have done this strategy because he didn’t have 20 obsidian anyways. And I hope you know people did this strategy without calculators before with the same result, calculators just make it a bit more convenient. Perfect travel can and has been done all the time without a calculator so this run was not made by the calculator. Most people who have this opinion saw that Karl Jobst video and decided to just believe what he believed. I like Karl, but that video is so misinformed it’s insane, it’s his worst video imo. Anyone actually in the community knows that this has been done before many times without a calculator, thats why only people outside the community who don’t know what they are talking about care so much more than the actual runners. There is debate within the community, but it isn’t even nearly as egregious as people outside the community think, mostly thanks to Karl Jobst
@@pebble312 I honestly enjoyed the Karl Jobst video. It gave voice to a lot of my frustrations with the decision. I don't think the people in the community who hate the calculator decision are wrong. Given all these comments I'm starting to understand what people were saying on twitter about how his video would be perceived, though.
Weekly is definitely the best channel which explains the speedruns. Normal people who dont know about speedrunning are always like: "this must be fake how does he know everything" take for example camdeeno
pikaj is better IMO
Couriway went into a lot of detail in his analysis as well. I wonder if they're all just tired of the endless ignorant comments, so they felt like describing the technical behind-the-scenes of a speedrun more than usual. Or maybe feeling like they had to explain the perfect travel bot made them decide to just explain all the other weird stuff along with it.
He only ever covers fake speedruns lol
14:00 love the summoning salt music lol
While run is still impressive as hell, I think it its unfair to use external programs. It's basically softcore TAS (tool-assisted speedrun) now
lol
how is it unfair if everyone is allowed to use it that's, like, what fair means
well it is humanly possible without insane luck too do it and 99% of the run is humanly done. they just have that so that they dont need to have to practice really good mental calculations along with the stuff they have to practice
This is a TAS speedrun.
But it isn’t. TAS has a specific definition where the game is modified with additional tools that allow the runner to play with slowdown or add frame by frame inputs etc. If we are going to redefine the term so that any external tool used in a speedrun makes it TAS then any speedrun that uses an external timer is also a TAS.
@@morbideddie No, my friend. A speedrun with a timer Isn't considered a TAS because the timer doesn't make you faster. "TAS" has no one defenition, but lets go with yours: "TAS has a specific definition where the game is modified with additional tools that allow the runner to play..." -FASTER. It has nothing to do with slowdowns or frames. You're confused because you're used to seeing TAS's that people made to try and achieve a perfect run (In games like TMNF or SMB), but not all TAS's are like that. If a tool gives you an advantage and makes you faster, then It's a TAS, even if it's played in real time. That's it. But I do get it that when the whole community agrees on using a certain tool than it should be allowed, I'm not arguing that, but you do have to call it by its name: A tool assisted speedrun. Have a beautiful day my friend.
@@idoGutman22 a timer is a tool, you are using it to assist you, it’s a tool assisted run. The runners current time can be a major factor in making decisions and the decisions you make directly impact and improve the final time of the run. And what about other things like reset macros? They allow you to cycle seeds faster to find more viable seeds which is a major factor in getting a good time. If you are going to have a broad definition of TAS then those fit within that definition. As for the other definition, that isn’t my definition, you have made your own definition and put it in my mouth. Timers and reset macros fit in too since they also allow for a faster run, plus the calculator is not a mod by my understanding, it’s an external tool. Like you said, TAS has no one definition, yet you seem to think that your definition is the only viable one, even though it’s not what the community generally uses. The definition you put forward where this is a TAS but a timer isn’t is arbitrary and not the definition generally used. More than anything I hate how any nuance is being stripped from this conversation. Instead of discussing the merits and downsides of the calculator, which I’m generally not a fan of being unbanned, people just throw around terms with no explanation and/or thought. And they do so in a way that disparages runners who are simply playing the game and following the rules the community has given them. Not targeting you specifically there but it’s a trend that is becoming all to common. Hope you have a good weekend, all the best.
@@morbideddie Well, I didn't mean to put anything in your mouth, so I'll apologize to that extent my friend. Back to the topic: I draw the distinction between a timer and macros and the tools used in the speedrun by how and how much it effects the decision making of the runner. Obviously a timer can change a runners decision making process for the better, and obviously a reset macro makes speedruns easier, but that's not the point - both of them don't make the desicions FOR the runner. On the other hand, the tool were talking about gives you cords (specific numbers), and eliminates any decision making - just go to the best cords the tool gives you and win. You and I both know MC speedrunning is crazy competitive and heavily RNG based, so runners need to reset A LOT. It has gotten to the point where you need crazy luck and skill combined with decent brain math skills to be competitive, and I get why a lot of people don't find it fun the "vanilla" way. The definition of TAS speedruns are community based - if the majority of the community agrees on it not being a TAS, then the speedrun is valid and leaderboard safe, and I'm not arguing that's It's not. I just think that people need to be honest about the tools used and not try to change the definition of the term itself, broadening it so much that it loses its meaning. BTW I'm glad I got into an internet argument with the one civilized person on KZhead and I'm sorry if im hard to understand, English is my second language.
@@idoGutman22 basing your definition on the decision process is an interesting distinction. Especially valid in MC RSG since decision making is such an essential part of the run. While the definition is still arbitrary it’s what id call a useful definition. That said I don’t think it really strengthens the argument against calculators. The way manual calculation works is you throw eyes and use the angle change to triangulate the stronghold position. This doesn’t require the runner to make any meaningful decisions, the numbers they calculate from have a set solution. Whereas the NB calculator used instead gives a number of possible locations with a spread of the likelihood, the runner has to decide whether they want to take the risk vs throw another eye for confirmation. The calculator actually gives the runner more decisions to make, not make them for the runner. I agree about honesty regarding tools and techniques, as long as runners and the community are transparent it’s fine. If there is one thing to learn from the early attempts to moderate speedrunning it’s that letting communities self moderate and make their own rules will generally create a healthier community. I’m not a big fan of calculators but I think arguments for their conclusion are valid and if the community makes the decision then that is up to them. I don’t think the inclusion of calculators really changes the definition of TAS since I think it falls outside of the normal definition anyway. A TAS has always been used as a short hand for modified games with theoretically prefect runs so the definition has always excluded other forms of tools like timers etc. The allowance of calculators in the leaderboards doesn’t do anything to broaden or narrow the definition. Whereas claims that the run is TAS are infact arguing for a broadening of the current definition of what the term TAS means. And likewise, I’m glad to be having this chat. And no need to apologise for your English, it’s excellent, better than most native speakers (myself included).
I’m not a speed runner but it’s always so fascinating to watch your analysis videos
Awesome video. I've dabbled in speedrunning but the one and only time I've ever even completed a run I only got 32:08, so I'm not very good. But this video laid out difficult concepts in an easy to understand way. Keep up videos like this.
kinda sad how Minecraft now uses outside-game tools to run the game faster. No other game does that and I really don't like the idea to use a bot to show you the most likely coordinates for the stronghold. It's effectively makes the run a tool assisted Speedrun and makes the run easier which defeats the point of speedrunning: competition.
A few games use tools to make the runs faster or more consistent. Wind waker is a prime example, and speaking of prime Metroid at least used to allow tools for the randomised maze section. This is not a new precedent. Outside of that tools have been allowed for a long time. People adding reticules to their tv’s for goldeneye, tables for divine travel coords. Even the timer is a tool since knowing how your run is going might factor into your decision making process. A TAS is when you use tools to change or alter the game directly, that’s not the case here, it’s not a TAS. This is still a competition, the calculator is open for anyone to use, the playing field is level. In no way does this make it less of a competition.
I don't care what anyone says, any run that uses NinjaBrainBot is a TAS run
and nobody cares about what you say, cool
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calculator = tas LULW
@@user-jz8bx9ts7c calculator is a tool?
you literally said "tas run", as in tool-assisted speedrun run i think it's safe to say you don't know much about speedrunning
5:40 "Seeing that he can't go through it, he goes over it!" Now that's an awesome life quote!
Thanks for explaining the details, I like looking at runs but I have no idea wtf they're doing half the time
Still such a shame this run was a TAS
I agree with Illumina that F3 is kinda cheating.
IMO F3 only really cuts down on randomness, which in a run this dependent on luck is good. For example imagine he goes through the portal and there’s only a small chance he goes the right direction to get to the bastion and get this run. I do think perfect travel is pushing it tho.
I don’t think illumina has ever called it cheating. He opts to not always use it because that’s how old school RSG was done and that’s cool, but I don’t think he calls it cheating.
lol i love the summoning salt music
I enjoy watching the good ending with that song in the end
It's a shame, that calculators are allowed now. It's a tool, that takes away a skill-based challenge from the run. The new WR is basically a TAS. That doesn't mean, it's not an incredible run. Cube did nothing wrong, he used exactly what is allowed, but the fact it is allowed, is a scandal. The mods should really reconsider the decision and ban it, as they did with pause abuse.
karl jobst fan detected
To quote four "if I hear one more person referring to a calculator as TAS, I'm going to lose my fucking mind". Calculators aren't only what the majority of the community voted for, but also the majority of top runners. It wasn't just a decision made by a couple mods crazed by how much they wanted to get a better time, it was a decision that was highly thought about before it was made.
@The Tarzab a run that is assisted by a tool is by definition a TAS. This is MY opinion, just because a big KZheadr has the same opinion, it can't be my own? What exactly does your last sentence mean? Because a human can do it, a tool should be allowed?
@@Besitzerstolz not a complete TAS though. I’m gonna be neutral on the calculator thing, but it kinda bugs me when people are calling calculators TASes, especially when considering that a TAS for other speedruns can literally be programmed to execute an input on A SPECIFIC FRAME. Basically what I’m saying is that a calculator is an assistance at most and is no way a full TAS
@@Besitzerstolz is a mouse a tool