LEGENDARY: HAVOC TALKS MOBB DEEP VS TUPAC & JAY Z!!! HOW DID THEY HAPPEN???
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When you gonna get Canibus on here
I'm on that Patreon. I'm looking for that entire interview to drop.
Niggas get bored and want to engage.
"Drop a Gem on em" a classic track
90’s & early 2000’s was a different vibe. Straight legends beefin’ with legends. 😂😂
Agreed compared to these cats being sensitive to Twitter fingers and FaceTime threats…🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️😂😂😂
@@TheYellowBrickRoadTV 😄 gen zs
Major difference is they actually met in the streets.
HAD TO WATCH THIS.....Havoc is ambidextrous in the studio....he can rap and produce...madd underrated...
This old white woman loves listening to your perspectives on the real world. Tell it like it is or was. I have three sons who grew up with the rap artists from way back.
My Dear Colleen😍👊💯👍👍💐
What a suck up
We love you...
@@unitedking4989 what a sucka you are that you use your time to insult an elderly woman. I can always spot the wannabe tough guys that just don't have anybody to act tough to or towards. Keep trying. Someone on the internet will believe your tough guy image
More blessings mama 🙏💯
Jayz wasn’t even a heavy hitter in 96 like that. It was pac, nas big. In that order.
@@biggame2175 no ones talking about being “bigger” he said he’s a heavy hitter
@@xkingxlouiex that his point, j wasn't kno heavy hitter in 96
Pac, Big then Nas..
@@shaolin7140 jay wasn’t no heavy hitter but all three knew who he was and knew he was coming. Pac kept jay name in his mouth. Big wanted to work with him and nas mention jay on the first song on his second album called the message. Tv headrest the minimum was directed at jay.
Cap Pac n nas my 2fav mcs but the order was 1pac 2snoop 3nas 4big And 3 & 4 could flip flop time to time snoop was a heavy hitter in the 90’s let’s not cap
Havoc is my favorite rapper/producer. R.I.P. Prodigy. Glad Mobb Deep's beef with Jay-Z didn't get worse. Havoc & Styles P album titled Wreckage Manner is solid! 👏🏻🔥🎶
I heard something different from Prodigy though. That him and some goons ran into Jay and Jermaine Dupri in a club type shit
For me it's rza havoc Pete Rock Eric sermon
@@SupaNatural28 Wow! Where did Prodigy say that?
@@dalecumberbatch6601 Nice list!
@@KD_SWAGGER it was in his book look it up on here where he tells that jay-Z story in the club.
these stories are wild. so cool. feels like im talking with my friends.
Yo Math Shows is on everything the best podcast out!!! Real issues great guest and info
Foreal da best song out now kzhead.info/sun/jN6jpNaqg2RupK8/bejne.html
Real questions 🎯
Yo he’s really been killing shit in the podcast game lately like somebody needs to cut this guy a huge check for this fire content
People say Havoc is underrated but he really isn’t. He is in every discussion about producing. He is a living legend
Havoc popped drop a gem and blood sport. He was always 120% in . Plus he produced it. Hell on earth album is a pac diss album lol
He is underrated in rapping. He never gets props for his rapping ability just because of prodigy overshadowing him, even tho havoc carried mobb deep after the first 3 albums and has even had better verses in certain songs
@@michaelfrazier629he carried the weight on Infamy big time
Hoffa continues to further the culture with exclusives from the greats! Salute!
Just wish it wasn't in bits. I want the whole interview
@@justincollins3874 he's been milking this cow heavy, like 20 bits at this point like drop the whole thing already
@alexander harvey OK mom, you got it
I don't rock with Math on a battle rap tip but these podcasts are so very authentic
I own 2 dvd's 1 is jayz streets is watching and 2nd is mobb deep murda music. Never gettin rid of those jawns. Classics!
truth is they battled against the best, like jay pac. and they worked with the best, nas biggie, pun, lox , g rap wu tang etc. not many can say that
Dont forget Prodigy and Nas traded bars with each other after the diss on Stillmatic
Honestly Queensbridge battled everybody
This podcast became my favorite this year math and the homie Bhigh
Math ... Keep doing your thing. Great show... Probably the best hip hop show now
Math Hoffa Coming With Great Content Outside Of Battle Rap✊🏾
Math always ask the questions that you wanna know... dope Podcaster.. whatever bread you Makin from this... ain't enough.. you're shits 💯'd
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Salute to you King!! You are a natural at this! Conversations flow so smoothly. Looking forward to more!!! Flatbush Brooklyn representing
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Math got the best interviews!
I remember the first time I heard drop a gem on em first period back in high school. Mind was blown and lunch period had everyone talking.
Drop a gem from my favorite mobb deep album🔥🔥🔥🔥👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
the Jay beef was easy to explain. Prodigy didn't like Jay saying "New York ain't been the same since Snoop kicked down the buildings." Prodigy whole perspective was Jay didn't say anything during the east vs west. Meanwhile Prodigy was on the Frontline
That's not how that beef started. Look up E Money Bags....
@@Monty_McFly Prodigy said it out his own mouth years ago. I'm sure it might be some other underlying issues, but I'm sticking with the story I know. Plus my story makes more sense when you listen to Havoc talk about it won't no real beef.
@@1stKindChris Trust me brotha...E money bags fueled it. During that riff at hot 97 when Jay was on the phone with Nas he called Prodigy and Hav "little niggas". Nas told P. The rest is history. It was real animosity between them. E money bags was a killer for real.
@@Monty_McFly what year was this? I think my story predates yours
@@1stKindChris the snoop line does predate that hot 97 freestyle but your missing my point. Yes P did feel a way when Hov said what he said but it wasn't no real street beef between the 2. It was only about the music. The actual beef itself? On some "if I see you in the streets guns might come out" type beef? That hot 97 freestyle took it there. Hov had an artist named H money bags but he also knew E money bags and knew that been his name for years. When he introduced H money bags on hot 97, E money bags was with P listening to it. E became irate. He asked P to call the station. P called and got Hov on the phone. Hov, thinking everything was cool, got on the phone with P. Then P goes "hold on someone wants to talk to you." He passes the phone to E. E proceeds to threaten Hov and tells him H money bags better change his name or else. E money bags was a shoot a nigga asks questions later type dude. Real street cred. Hov knew he was in some shit so he called Nas since Nas was also tight with E (E was born in Brooklyn but raised in Queens). Asked Nas what was going on with E. Then proceeds to say "got these little niggas (mobb deep) calling me." Nas calls P and asked what happened and tells him what Hov said. From that point on, because E money bags wasn't a dude you play with, it was on sight. E money bags was real tight with Prodigy and Nas. That's when it turned into official street beef. When Kenneth Supreme McGriff sent a hit squad to kill E money bags Prodigy took that very hard. They were real tight.
On some real ish, I really fell right back then Mobb Deep was ready to go at pac and them real hard and drop a gym on them is a super classic it just goes over people's heads because they are so in love with Tupac . The difference is that havocs beats were so dope that they would have won the musical war in the long run just my opinion... And Prodigy was really coming with the lyrics. And those sublims, I know what he talking about you have to be a fan and pay attention to the music... Mobb Deep Forever
Drop a Gem on em 🔥🔥🔥🔥 #classic
I love Mobb deep but during that time I was riding with Pac & Mobb deep looked kinda weak dissing Pac subliminally. Most of dem New York dude was scared to diss Pac by calling out his name except for Chino XL & DMX
Chino XL copped a plea and tried to fake like he wasn't dissing him tho when he clearly was. DMX did say his name but 2Pac had no clue who DMX was. DMX jumped in that and it had nothing to do with him, so he can get his name out there in my opinion. Basically trying to come up off of using Pac name.
Drop A Gem on Em was originally released as a single towards the end of August 96 there's nothing subliminal about that. If the track is only about 1 person name dropping isn't really necessary especially if it's being promoted as a single.
Facts
@@ChrisM07True.
Hav be spin'n 💩 crazily...😂 One of my top 5 producers. Rest in Heaven Bandana P
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MATH HOFFA 💯💥💥💥
“talking bout it’s just rap music,this is Blood Sport,I’ll run ya ass up outta New York” Mobb Deep “Can’t Handle” (Jay Z diss)
It was supposed to be on Infamy. I was mad it wasn't.
Everybody in the crew can’t wait to show that they loyal or show that they will protect the artist.
I heard the story about P stepping to South Central Cartel's Prodigy over the name in L.A.For real, Mobb held down the east during the beef.They were even performing that shit in L.A. and no one stepped to them.Mobb was with the shits.R.I.P Bandana P.thanks for holding down the coast.
Mexicans had prodigys hotel surrounded and asked napoleon if he wanted them to smoke mobb deep
@@Witheredzakidaddyegghead Why didnt they?
@@elliot2177 napoleon said let him go and speak to them and went and knocked on the door and spoke to prodigy
@@Witheredzakidaddyegghead Why did he let him go?Because he knew what would have happened had they did that
@@elliot2177 because prodigy bowed doen, pac said never rush a man when he shows respect to you
Facts they beefed with everybody
💯💯💯 please share the vid!
@@Mathhoffa I got you bro 💯
pac beefed with everyone and picked the wrong group.Mobb washed him on Drop a gem on em.
Da guy got it. kzhead.info/sun/jN6jpNaqg2RupK8/bejne.html
@@elliot2177 Washed? 90's Eastcoast hip hop fans are funny. New Yorkers love overhyping Drop A Gem on Em. NYC was just happy to have some sort of diss or response to Pac at the time that no one paid attention at how little impact and longevity the lyrics had. They didn't even drop the man's name in the song. Young people that listen to that song now have no idea it was a Pac diss without a backstory. When you have to explain a diss song years later, that's how you know it's a weak diss.
Always LOVED MoBB DEEP! No matter who hit was, they was always ready to battle, and they were rap legends from the jump!
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Hoffa be fishing for da beefs lol 😆
"Thun & Kiko" Prodigy & Cormega Diss Track At Jay Z & Nas....
Drop a gem was one of if not the best diss track of all time
that's pushing it bro but that record was 🔥
There Beef with Tru Life was Epic.
Mobb was the only group that really went for the throat and didn't care about the repercussions. On the east coast at least! Dogg Pound wasn't really giving a fuck either.
It was prodigy that was beefing with the heavy hitters not mobb deep havoc was not mentioned at all lol
Mobb Deep for life. (my husband love hearing me rap their songs)
Drop a Gem on em is one of the all time great diss tracks
100% facts.
Havoc is mature with it. Always respect that
I would have loved to hear Jay and Mobb or at least on a Hav beat!!!!🔥🔥🔥
I used to see Havoc's Aunt almost every other day before I moved. She's a very kind hearted Woman. I know his Son too. He's certainly a split image of his Dad. LOL
2 Pac immortalized Mob Deep and even Chino XL
Mobb crushed his soul with drop a gem on em
@@thecardbunker801 I think he felt it, dope song... but crushed his soul idk about that.
I think Hav talking about the Keith Murray situation lol
Part. And the cutting part was Lostboyz. Prodigy talks about the incident in the book
What was the Hav sub @ J? We talkin 99 or 01...
When the mobbdeep drop that drop a gem 💎 on em sheeesh only my went hard on the west ..
Problem was They dropped it 2 days before Pac got murdered. It was just picking up traction & Prodigy took it off the radio out of respect for Pac family. But kept it on the album.
Drop a Gem 🔥 but it’s not elite though that’s East coast though
What bigman said at the ending is somewhat true. U never see atcq or roots getting into those beefs.
I don't think there's an EMCEE on Earth now or then that could take NAS AND PRODIGY AND HAVOC at the same time, Jay make his point but it wasn't enough and before we could really have a topic about the shit Nas had Ether but yeah Jay was in over his head coming at NAS/Mobb at the same time
Tried to kill 2 birds with one stone
According to mutah when 2pac was locked up he thought mobb deep was throwing subliminal shots at him with the thug life we living it line
According to Majesty from Live Squad They came up with Thug life because gangsters are all dead or in jail Pac didn’t own the term thug or thug life That was some niggas from Queens
@@Synchronite 💯
@@Synchronite dude that choked on a egg wasn't a thug
@@harrellwilliams5010 I’ll tell you what tho He took his gun charge w/o bitchin trying to pin it on somebody else Pac got a charge and told ppl it was Biggie and Junior Mafia Is that ur definition of a thug? Lol
Pac spoke on this himself. Why y'all never quote him? Look up what he said on the Sway interview if you don't know about it
Math Ya POD Adds Up.. love how you not following the narrative you are inventing you're own lane.
Ayo Math I think you should try to get Drake on here
Tru Life In A Nutshell But No Names... No Names...
I appreciate how HOV is doing in life so far, all these comments talking about what could've-would've-should've happened need to stop living in the past and catch up.
Drop a gem on 'em was pale in comparison to hit'em up
Why cause you say so? You can't even compare the two. Pac didn't even come at Mobb like that on that song other than threatened them and say some goofy ish about P's sickle cell. On the other hand P and Hav killed Pac on Drop a Gem on 'em.
@@godflintCap 🧢🧢🧢 Nigga don’t nobody even think of Drop a gem on Em when compared to Hit Em Up lol 😂 you in the minority meaning less than 1 percent outta 100 percent
lost boys and keith murry what havoc talking about
Christopher George Latore Wallace The Notorious B.I.G. & Shawn Corey Carter JAY-Z - Math Hoffa
Math you need mutah on here some of these dudes telling half truths about 2pac
Pac whole life was a half truth Mutah was just Pacs flunky
@@Synchronite facts Dun ‼️
@@Synchronite new rats always hating on the goat. 25 yrs later 😆🤣
@@Synchronite prodigy was a art student just like pac the diffeeenfe is pac bust his guns at off duty cops and got into wild shit while prodigy got violated robbed and beat up his whole career, got cheated on by his wife, had a gay relationship wit his cell mate and died choking on a egg. New York rap is dead and pac is getting statues built of him worldwide and still getting more sales and streams then mobb deep, jayz and biggie
@@thebunkertv8847 prodigy the softest rapper ever he got violated his whole career by everybody and died choking on a egg. He’s forgotten meanwhile pac getting statues and shit build of him
Hav tell the whole story with Pac. What happened in Atlanta?
What happened in Atlanta? Never heard that story.
Nigga wtf are you talking about ?
@@6thbr871 I'm curious as well. To my knowledge they never met.
making up shit
@6thbr Allegedly Pac sent some goons at Mobb in Atlanta Pac said they was cowards cause they ain’t react yada yada yada 😂 But why don’t the original poster tell the story of when Pac got herbed in the tunnel and mic Geronimo had to step in on his behalf? Or when a girl 👩🏾🦱 had to save Pac life in Lefrak cause a nigga from East NY was on his head? Pac Stans always wanna make dude seem like Clint Eastwood
The Tupac and Jay z beefs are legendary but The Tru Life beef is the one we gotta pretend didn't happen, too infamous.
That beef wasn't really nun. P dissed the lil homie gave him a verse he already did (basically took son money) & then Tru life and his boys got extremely lucky bcuz they showed up to the studio & Alchemist at the time was new, he buzzed them in by accident & they rushed the studio fought with the Infamous Mobb drew guns & had some of the members run outside the studio naked. That part was fucked up but P & Hav wasn't there & if they were Alchemist probably wouldn't have been able to get them inside bcuz P or Hav would've most likely peeped game. Years later P & Tru got together took a pic wit P, his son & I believe Ron Artest & that was that.
Prodigys verse on drop a gem on em is incredible aimed at pac ....ya probly squeeled louder than a opera,new york gotcha
Facts. P ate his food.
IMagine a 2pac and MobDeep collab man they would've made some bangers
Math, step your interrogation skills up, homie. Hav tight-lipped on a lot of that shit you tryna get out of him...lol Shoulda asked him about the South Central Cartel shit, too.
Havoc said the beef was over nothing, but prodigy explained why he spoke on jay-z in that source magazine and me personally I see where prodigy was coming from. Jay was a big scary ass snake.
Hav mean`t the beef was over something petty.
2pac the GOAT 🐐
People keep asking the same old questions. Been asked before. How many times can it be brung up. Old shit
Every year same shit
Wasn't Mef going at Pac on Extortion
No..
Reach. Meth was on All Eyez on Me that same year. Why would he throw a sub at 2Pac?
@@MichaelBrown-ti1un Pac wasn't suppose to be on that track with Meth, homie might be on to something.
@@Sunset-oz4rf The Wu had no problems with Pac, they stayed neutral. And even if they did hypothetically, Meth would be the last one to go at 2Pac like that
@@MichaelBrown-ti1un Exactly. Meth is a 🐐 Did a joint with biggie and pac is legendary. Extortion us a hard track. Crazy Havoc flipped a Michael Jackson sample for that sound. Havoc is one of my top producers. Hope he extends his production catalog cause hip hop definitely needs more of his contributions
They forgot about tru life
Never forget South Central Cartel, Prodeje and Havoc, got their name stolen from Mobb Deep. Coincidence? Probably not.
Tupac Bomb First On Mobb Deep & Jay-Z In The Same Verse On Makaveli 💯
In the long run & drop a gem on em, Prodigy lyrically destroyed 2pac. Both incredible artists tho RIP to both legends
Tupac is the greatest of all time and remains so. Pac has the same equivalence to Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, Prince, Tom Brady, Jimi Hendrix, and Muhammad Ali in his own lane.
Listen I love Mobb Depp, but have to address this… You know what I’m sayin, you know what I’m saying, you know what I’m saying….Yes Havoc we know what your saying, especially when you have to remind us every 5 seconds….Rappers please stop saying that, I thought we were past that….Know what I’m saying lol 😜
Mobb deep ain't no slouch. But tupac is tupac
Prodigy DESTROYED Pac with his verse on "Drop A Gem On Em".
🗣🧢
🚫🧢 Y'all have to listen to the verse.
Facts
I feel Mobb & Pac were tied.They came at each other viciously.
tripple🧢
when did r kelly get out :P
Math, come on with these silly questions! Don’t get corny like the rest of them.
Prodigy RIPPED 2pac on “Drop A Gem On Em”……🔥🏆🔥
I agree, I love 2pac to me he's the goat, but that verse by prodigy was wicked nice. I wonder if pac got a chance to hear that track? I heard it was released a few days before he was murdered, some say it was released after as well. Anybody know when?
That verse did no damage.. Pac was saying dudes names every time he went in.. the whole New York looked soft compared to Pac and the west
yep..Smashed him.that shit was better than Hit Em Up..
@@rockyward6758 ummm. nooo.nikka.Pac got washed in Drop a gem on em and love tapped on Long Kiss..Fuck out here..
@@hassejr7072 Think it was before he passed.
Prodigy ripped Jay up something nice on his diss!
@@justincollins3874 Jay knew to ignore that track, he already had his hands full wit Nas!
Hov killed prodigy
@@charlesbaldwin8019 not lyrically he didnt, he came at homie wit jokes not bars!
@@justincollins3874 Which song u talkin about!?
@@abefinklestein711 same can be said about ether. Ether was mostly jokes and calling jay gay.
Mobb was about to end pac
Lol 😂 put down that Crack Pipe it’s clouding your judgement you not in yo right frame of mind lol 😂 smh 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@terrancethompson5184 you crazy if you think lyrically pac was nicer than prodigy .....Mobb deep would a finished him
@@bampo525 no nigga you crazy 😜 PAC could go that New York lyrical miracle bullshit if he wanted to but he dumbed down his lyrics for the masses to get his point across Tupac shits on Prodigy as an artist and music wise that’s like comparing Usher to Michael Jackson and Tupac obviously being Michael, lol 😂 Prodigy lucky I even compared him to Usher when it comes to the art of music period point blank as far as Hip Hop or Rap PAC the goat 🐐 and it ain’t even close they’ll be talking about Tupac a thousand years from now while Prodigy will be forgotten
Man Pac has been dead for 30 years and people still disrespect him over beefs that all parties involved have moved on from 💀 No Mobb Deep would never be able to hurt Pac’s career in a serious way. He was way more skilled as an MC than he gets credit for cause he’s mostly known for his heartfelt radio singles. All Eyez On Me has seriously impressive flow and writing. And if it just comes down to being ruthless and disrespectful, Pac was HIM for that.
@terrancethompson5184 Na Prodigy ate Pac on Drop a Gem & hurt him badly with that line on In The Long Run too. If Pac hadn't of died 2 days after Drop a Gem dropped it would've fucked up Pacs career bcuz he could never write anything like that record with the production & everything that's one of the greatest diss records ever.
Mobb deep great rappers but I’ve never heard of them winning no street beefs
Okay then list the street beefs that you heard they lost.
@@godflint Tru life cormega Nore Jay z Lakey the kid that’s just off the top of my head
@@El_terrible1985 Are we talking "street" beefs or "rap" beefs? Jay was rap beef. Pac was rap beef that had the potential to go to the streets if they ever crossed paths. I heard about the Tru Life incident, but Hav and P didn't get touched in that. I have no knowledge of Cormega and Nore beefing with Mobb. I know Nas had issues with Mega and Nore, but I was unaware that Mobb did. I just know about Tru Life, Keith Murray and Lakey the Kid. All 3 were street beefs.
@@godflint nore shot 1 of mobb deeps Friends. Cormega set prodigy up with e money bags I think it was an he got whooped.
PAC rip but he was talking too much shit
Tupac --- 🐐
PACizGOAT
Jay needs to answer these questions too
This is why Mobb is my favorite group of all time.They smoked Pac boots with 'Drop a gem on'.Robberies in Manhattan,You know what happen 60gs worth of gun clapping.Who shot ya prolly scream louder than an opera N.Y. got ya..one of My favorite disses of all time.
😂😂😂😂 no they fucking didn’t. Go check prodigy shitting his pants from napoleon in a hotel in Arizona. He nearly got smoked in real life
kzhead.info/sun/oLOYkauKmKeqYKc/bejne.html
@@El_terrible1985 So “drop a gem on em” was a wack diss track ?
@Boxing legend🥊 U faking 😂 son Mutah never hurt a hair on Prodigy head even though P was alone and Napoleon had ppl w him
@@Synchronite it’s there to see for yourself. Prodigy nearly shit his pants
Prodigy > Tupac
Naw you capping 🤣
Said no one ever besides lame backpackers. Most the world couldn’t pick prodigy out of a line up
You haters will say anybody is better than Pac
Prodigy doesn't have a solo album better than Pac's
"Mobb Deep, you lil young ass Juvenile Deliquents.. Bang Bang, you dead" Pac
jay z is Overrated, 2Pac is The Greatest Rapper Of All Time since 1996
Straight up 💯🔥
Jay z is way over Tupac in terms of accomplishments & longevity, there’s no comparison
@@jfraz1992 Well Pac did die like 20 something years ago.
@@jfraz1992 YOU DO REMEMBER TUPAC WAS ONLY 25 WHEN HE DIED RIGHT ?!!?
Gotta be a kid