10 minutes of Kramnik reporting and blocking masters in Titled Tuesday
2024 ж. 23 Нау.
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Do you agree with Kramnik?, leave a comment, Thanks for watching!| Credit: Vladimir Kramnik #chess #vladimirkramnik #cheating #grandmaster #magnuscarlsen
Opponent: 1. e4 Kramnik: Ok. everything is clear to me now. I will do the procedure.
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420 likes, should I ruin it?
@@Admin-dv9yp By all means
Lmao
Lol
1. Report. 2. Check accuracy
Let's do the procedure 😂
@@ArnieAlonzoThat’s what “she” said… 😂
Shouldn't it be check accuracy, think about it, then maybe report?
@josephpeeler5434 that was the damn sense of the comment, like Kramnik did it the other way around which was incorrect
@josephpeeler5434 I don't think your able to grasp people's sense of humour 😂
Kramnik: now he’ll play H3. The GM: *plays H3* Keamnik: okay it’s clear now, let’s do the procedure
when kramnik predicts your move- you are cheating, when kramnik can't predict your move- you are cheating
Maybe Kramnik was cheating lol
"Ok, let's do the procedure" 😂😂😂😂😂
He got the muscle memory on the report button for sure😂
@@mrnobody1546 solo gamers can relate
4:38 for anyone wondering
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Others: Innocent until proven guilty Kramnik: Guilty beyond proven innocent
Underrated comment😂
In Russia... Guilt proves you
@thewakakeboarder Kramnik does not represent Russia by any chance, literally every Russian popular chess streamer agrees to him being wrong and just arrogant
Guilty until proven innocent is right when defending abuse victims or SA but chess? Nah bruv😂
Russian style
Opponent: breathes Kramnik: "Ok, of course report immediately, no doubt"
breathe is in fact secret morse code. You still didnt know ?
I imagine the anti-cheat support team sees his name pop up every day
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Probably made his reports go into the spamfolder :D
*every hour of the day
@@MatteDRS LMFAO 😂
He's gonna report himself too very soon
Haha 😅😅😅
If someone shows his best match and ask him if the winning side is cheater or not Then he'll definitely say yes
better show one from tt, gms always remembwr their best games
He’s too washed
Didn't he self-report for entering tournaments using another GM's account? Close enough
Kramnik :- Misses a tactic even a 1500 rated player can spot, Also Kramnik 5 seconds later :- It is clear that this player is cheating
The guy is a former World Chess Champion , beat the great Kasparov in the WCC and cross the 2800 elo FIDE barrier... Even retired I'm more likely to trust him than some random on the internet...
@@rubensilvera1164 none of those you've mentioned have any basis on whether his opponent/s are cheating against him
@@rubensilvera1164apparently you don't know Fischer's story - the guy has completely lost it when he got older. Probably the same thing is happening to Kramnik
@@resonance4789 Of course there is : Kramnik knows Chess better than most people, knows the difficulties to find a move and what really worth is a 2300 FIDE opponent.
@@kolovikon2118 I know very well the Fischer's story and a lot of stupidity have been said on this. Whatever, it's completely unrelated to our case here, there is just no comparaison except the fact that both were world champions.
My new goal in life is to get reported by Kramnik.
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If I ever got matched against him I’d be tempted to cheat just to make him flip out lmao
@@JappyisHappy-sg6td I'd be moving my pieces every 8 seconds every single time lol.
should be no problem.... ;-)
You dont need to be too good of a player to achieve that :D
Kramnik, a GM: spots the tactics* His opponent, also a GM: spots the tactics too. Kramnik: "He must be cheating".
Kramnik was a super gm, top 3 of the best ever. Difference between him and a normal GM is like the difference between a talented 10y old kid and a gm
@@omeee I think that's bullsh*t. Difference between super gm's and gm's is 200 elo. There's always a percentage of chance of a lower rated player defeating a higher one. You can't get upset if you throw the dice ten times and once you get a number lower than 2. That's how it works.
@@user-tc6rw4hp6s What you think is wrong, elo what fide uses is not linear, it is logarithmic. There is always a chance that you lose of course. The reason for that is that stronger players take risks. A good gm can draw most of the time from a super gm if he tries to get a draw
@@omeee key word was, now he is just a washed up old man who is mad at the world for falling off
@@user-tc6rw4hp6s200 elo is a massive difference at this level. 2600 is not even top 100, while the only 2800 players are magnus and caruana.
Poor guy, he should retire from chess. This is not healthy
Sanity down but the accusations are up 🔥🔥
@@BubbleBFDI😂
I need a 12 hour version to help me relax and sleep
Within a year should be possible to make one i think
use the loop... ;-)
lol yea it was relaxing
You want to sleep? I don’t know how, it’s a good question. I block and report. Clear indicator to me. It’s completely clear. 92 dot 4 sleep accuracy. No chance. Simply crazy. Let’s do the procedure.
Opponent castles. Kramnik: okay, lets do the procedure
Moving 2 pieces at once??? INTERESTING
If he did a backwards night move then he is for sure cheating
"Hey, how are you?" "Ok, let's do the procedure"
"Plays like a bullet"…the guy had 5 seconds on the clock, what else are they supposed to do?😂
Right :P lol and few moves later he spends 3 out of his 5 seconds on a move.. nothing looks off here.. he is tilting so hard..
-Of course I'm doing nonsense but I'll try to win... **losing after doing nonsense** -Ok let's report of course...
He didn’t lose tho
He should start a series “Guess the cheater” where he reviews games and identifies the cheater. Then watch him report his own game.
big chance he would notice that its his own game
@@Kettvnen Yeah - how many times has Hikaru been in the middle of a game and said "Oh - I had this position against Grischuk on the second of September 2021... I remember I'd had a tuna melt that morning..."
@@JMUDoc They can remember their tournament games, especially in classic. Because they're preparing for each opponent/match for days, and then they spend a lot of time for game analysis. Of course after that they will remember these games forever. But, they usually don't remember their blitz online games :) There is no magic
*Blunders a knight in time trouble "It is clear to me now"
Kramnik with the white pieces, opens with the Procedure Attack, Lunatic Variation
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I'm a simple man like Kramnik, I see overperforming I do the procedure
>lose to players ranked lower than GM (and sometimes even other GMs) >accuse them of cheating as an excuse to try and numb the sadness you're feeling because you're not as good anymore at the thing you were once the best at >enter a brutal cycle of soothing your ego and never admitting your own weakness >success
It was so strange, he spotted a tactic instantly but is surprised the same tactic is seen by the other "IM". I'm 1600, even I saw that tactic instantly lol. Guess I'm cheating.
@@johanliebert5781so you are a 1200 fide rated chess player? Kids nowadays shut just stfu. You aren’t even able to differentiate a pickle from a knife.
But he was in candidates few years ago
hes still averaging 2900-3000 elo so he’s a very good player still I’d say
@@victornguyen8382he’s good but is still losing to other players
''Ok report immediatly, no doubt, let s check about main line.... ok it s the second line''
That was amazing
Kramnik - *wins match and checks his own accuracy - 95%* Kramnik - Ok. everything is clear to me now. I will do the procedure. *Proceeds to report himself and delete his account*
Kramniks is gotta end blocking everyone and he'll have no one to play with😂
he can play with himself haha
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@@jessiebarry-sf6vxmagnus tip #6
He'll have newcomers to play with !! (Which he will block and report in a couple of days once they start finding simple tactics)😂😂
Blocking doesn't stop you getting matched with someone, just blocks communication
He has literally gone mad and paranoid at this point
you ain't seen nothing yet! He's coming for your cheating ass!
As someone who was almost certainly falsely accused of cheating in the past you'd think that Kramnik would realize that he's becoming the same sore loser he accused Topalov of being
@@Zeppelin616 plot twist: maybe he actually cheated in the past so now he's just paranoid everyone is actually cheating just like he did
Aging russians chess players married to french women tend to loose their minds around later in life apparently :(
@@redwithblackstripes Leave Spassky alone!
Kramnik: Gets a completely losing position after missing an easy tactic Also Kramnik: *loses on time* OK let’s do the procedure. 92% accuracy? Not possible.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the accuracy calculation doesn't necessarily mean "always the best move" right?? If you're in a dominating position, can't "good moves" still be counted as "accurate" by the analysis, even though it it's not the best line?? Either way Kramnik has lost his mind lol
@@bentopalchemistfranklin7797 if you had a +7 advantage and after your move you have +4 then the analysis will say that you lost 3 points of advantage and the move is trash
@bentopalchemistfranklin7797 if your opponent plays terribly, and you just play the alright moves you'll still end up with an over 90 accuracy so he us just insane
accuracy is based how close you are to the best engine moves so 100% accuracy means you played all the best of stockfish moves. So for example if you have 2 moves +2 and +1 adventage, then playing the +1 move will be considered as not best engine move and It will decrease accuracy too
God damn, it's like watching my dad try to disable adblock because his favorite website told him to do so, and shown detailed instructions in how to do so.
To be fair, at least one of his opponents probably cheated
Excessive doubt leads to Paranoia.
And excessive paranoia leads to Kramnik.
But who defines what is excessive?
@@nidhinbenny7975 Kramnik of course
Lol @ anyone defending Kramnik. If you can make a 10 min compilation about this, then the problem is so obviously him. He misses so much tactics and then reports people when in reality he's angry at himself for blundering. Not being able to admit you made a mistake is a big ego problem
His WWF name would be Vladimir "The Procedure" Kramnik.
Its almost sad, that a man who could have been remembered as Vladimier "The chess world champion" Kramnik, is instead tryharding so much to make an absolute fool of himselph.
Is their cheating in the WWF?--before u step in the ring??
the wwf because he's a dying breed? or because he's trying to protect the envrionment?
At this point, Kramnik can be considered to be Kamsky’s brother.
Gata is a famous fucking legend!
At least Kamsky never randomly accused anyone of cheating just got mad at losing on time
@@Yrkr785You should check any of Kamsky's stream 😂
@@Yrkr785u sure about that
@@Gush27 oh wait did he? I could be absolutely wrong on that my bad
i have a feeling kramnik is suffering from bias/paranoia. I feel like if he was playing OTB he wouldn't say "1 move is clear indicator to me" but when he's online he's certain.
The thing about getting older is nobody gives us a warning that our skills are becoming dated. Nobody stops inviting us to participate. It just gradually becomes evident that we can’t keep up, and then it’s about how gracefully we can redirect our energies.
Perferectly put here, well said.
As a 38 year old, I have no basis for agreeing with you, but I agree. :D
He is still doing pretty good against very strong players, you act like hes on a IM level now, nonsense.
@@DiesesMax R/whoosh. Missing the point here. By a large margin.
@@existenceghost9701 I dont miss the point, he was indicating that he cant keep up, yet he can.
""92.4% of course yeah " Meanwhile Hikaru gets 99.2% with Komodo of 99.6% 🗿
Cause Hikaru is a cheater, or atleast cheats from time to time, he gets exposed in OTB even in longer time controls
@@gamma91412 place in the candidates, he got exposed 🤯
@@gamma9141exposed by a 40+ unbeaten streak last year? Or finishing only second in the candidates?
6:51 The fact that he achieves a draw but still reports his opponent as a cheater is completely insane. It impressively demonstrates that he really has no clue how to recognize cheaters or how cheaters play.
They cheat to draw obv smh
Really sad. He is a spent force. Doesn't even analyse the game before blocking/reporting, sometimes he has a winning position but doesn't convert then cries like a baby when he loses
He doesn't cry and seems calm.
Yeah he just a sore loser now
@@chrepuhon He’s clearly boiling inside, he can’t stand taking losses to unknowns. The reporting is the chess equivalent of a grandpa playing monopoly and having to sell all his properties to pay rent, then getting angry and throwing the board across the room. I have no question as to how he acts when the camera is off.
@@TitaniumTurbine All of those cases were crystal clear that Kramnik's opponent cheated! Really no need to analyze the game before reaching that conclusion. It's beyond obvious when his opponent has an engine helping him, matching a Super GM (even beating him) and then suddenly drops 2000 rating points because he's no longer using the engine (because time crunch). Or when his opponent need 15 seconds to find the obvious continuing move in a combination.
Since I started following Kramnik, chess has become a lot easier. I always feel good. If I lose I report the player and block him. So I actually won.
Why not just report before the game?
got a feeling we'll see it soon enough...
That would save some time
*Makes 2 blunders himself "Ok, it's clear. Let's do the procedure"
This is sad to watch how a world champion can go down a bitter road of superstition, and bitterness
Reminds me of fischer.chess made him crazy
@@user-iw8ne4pd3hi dont think Chess made fisher crazy. He was always quite a strange guy before. Wilhelm Steinitz's life ended in a psychiatry, where he claimed to be able to move pieces just by his mind.
Chess has too many cheaters especially online he isn't wrong u 100 elo.
@@queenu606 There might be some cheaters but not as many as Kramnik says. Kramnik is just cannot accept that now there are many younger players who are just better than him.
@@queenu606 Kramnik is accusing everyone who is better than him🤷 Especially Hikaru
d4 second best move still yapping
And d4 was zeros according to the engine. kramnik lost because he got himself down on time
Lmao he proved himself wrong and just was like well yea but I still think he cheated
Kramnik - "Ok he will see these 3 checks coming" Opponent - Plays the 3 checks Kramnik was able to see Kramnik - "Ok he saw the same moves I saw clearly he is cheating"
*Opponent takes care of back rank issues with h3 (something that absolute beginners are taught to do)* Kramnik: Everything is clear to me now.
89% accuracy and my FM opponent played the 2nd best line. He must be a cheater no question. Kramnik is an idiot, I'm sure people do cheat against him now and again but he accuses everyone even when GMs draw with him 😂
how can you call a former world champion an idiot? thats so dumb
@pietklop5579 just because he's a former world champion doesn't mean he can't come across like an idiot
Bro called kramnik idiot lol
@@pietklop5579 reporting drawn games as cheating is pretty idiotic
@@pietklop5579 Because when you act like an idiot you get called an idiot, regardless of past of accomplishments and social standing. Ill make it more clear for you what he is doing for chess is idiotic, what is is doing to his reputation is idiotic, reporting everyone under the sun is idiotic, this ghost hunt he is on is idiotic, and calling Hikaru a cheater is Idiotic, therefor he is an idiot.
Kramnik: "Serious 90+" Game Review: "90.1" Everyone else: "Here we go again"
I'm not sure if I should laugh at him, or feel bad for him. It's embarassing nonetheless
This guy is 100 times better than me at chess and I'm 1000 times better than him at recognising when someone's cheating.
You can write this Edit - you can accept lose unlike him
it harder to recognise in his rating, but yea I agree with you
@@Sato-Azumaga Very true,but that's another reason why you shouldn't blame people that easily.
@@Sato-Azumaga Also lets not forget that since he's playing masters,if someone gets caught cheating that will could affect their whole chess career,they're not gonna sac this just to unfairly beat Kramnik
He does not even have the most basic blitz skills, using his mouse like a 90yo grandma.
Would still beat most of grandmasters with his eyes closed, even in his years:D
Using a mouse has nothing to do with blitz, the 1 second increment is enough for kramnik to not lose on time
@@getrekt7772he takes more than 1 second to make a move 😂😂
Finished 3 at Blitz WC some yeas after his retirement,has also won the title Thursday.
how does that relate to the topic? he is still included into top 30 players of all time for sure, he can defeat almost all of grandmasters even now. The problem with cheaters is real nowadays and you can't ignore it. Yeah, sometimes Vladimir is too paranoic with it, but that's the reality. @@Overhemd
If Vlad watches his old games , he would immediately REPORT THAT GUY and CALL HIM A FRAUD .
Unfathomably Based, lets do the procedure boys :)
Paranoid. Not worthy of a former World Champion. He should take the high road.
Like magnus in the sinquefield cup? Lol
And who are you?! One unhappy unknown amateur...what,you dont know that exist cheating in online chess,that everybody can do this?! Moron....
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 Was slightly more to be suspicious off, but yeah same thing xd
His reputation has definitely gone down the toilet as of late (pun intended).
@@chesscomsupport8689 tell urself that, u lesser men on the side lines of history do need to tell urself that to cope with ur mediocrity and envy of great men, because the truth is NOTHING WILL ERASE THE FACTS, HE IS A CHAMPION, MORONS DON'T DECIDE HIS REPUTATION, RESULTS DO!
This is just the epitome of throwing your toys out of the pram
Epistemologically speaking, there cannot be "absolute no doubt" in chess, specially in online chess. Players might get lucky, or they may simply be better than him... I think he's just mad for losing...
it's a pathological ego defense mechanism
Never thought I would say this...but I play just like Kramnik!
Interesting
What, you’re shit as well?
cant wait till he meets the final boss, a dude named Hans
You missed this drama?
Both will do the procedure
bro missed it..😆
A master getting 92% accuracy in a positional game is below average I'm sure.
It's base line for what I'd expect from that category tbh it seems like Kramnik isn't concentrating right and when it costs him, instead of admitting it, he blames others instead 😂 sad really
It's actually big head of him to report everyone. That means he has reported 100% of cheaters in the platform.
not even remotely it would cross my mind too, lets start the procedure
"Part 1"
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please make more of these omg im dying
Kramnik misunderstands the meaning of the accuracy number. A high score doesn't mean top computer moves, simply logical moves in relation to the positions. I have 1825 Elo in Lichess. My last game (lost) I got 81% accuracy. In my previous two games (won) I got 92% and 90%. Did I play like a GM or IM in those two games? Of course not.
Also there's a certain bend to accuracy. I have games with like 98% accuracy not because I am a great engine-level player but because sometimes I am up 1 or 2 Pawns early and I play down my advantage somewhat accurately. If my opponents resigned early, making these games last 20 instead of 60+ moves, I'd have a significantly lower accuracy.
I have games with 100% accuracy lol where I checkmated opponents in the opening
@@Chomtatell me your ID. Need to do the procedure
Accuracy skews if your opponent blunders and blunders early. Because now the moves become quite obvious. If you drop a piece against a 1900 player early in the game, chances are they'll convert quite easily and have a high accuracy. But if the game was fairly even and a 50+ mover and you're playing a player 200/300+ stronger than you and both are above 2000 it starts becoming more suspicious.
Exactly. Its a function of how your opponent plays, and the position as well. Against am opponent not playing well in a position where pretty much the way to win is clear getting a high accuracy even for someone like me is easy. Having the same accuracy against a GM in a complicated position of course is not possible (for me).
1.d4 and everything is clear for the procedure
Kramnik against Gasparov 25 years ago: "This guy must be cheating"
It's quite sad. One of the strongest players of all time and a former world champion, now relegated to being a spam reporting Karen.
Kramnik really is a gamer
Please do those weekly, i have it on my 75" TV running on auto while i workout, thanks
This is sad. Im 2500 rated player and first 3 tactics are so easy to find that i dont understand Mr. Kramnik your attitude to report and block after every lost game here.
Opponent: plays knight fork Kramnik: ok, absolutely no doubt about this player. Let's do the procedure.
Opponent: captures en-passant Kramnik: ok what iz zis sorcery, I will now do the procedure
Damn hackers doing impossible moves😢
This is addicting to watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Let's go 2nd part
This whole situation is sad. I don't blame anyone for being paranoid about cheating online. At first I was willing to give Kramnik the benefit of the doubt given his skill is way beyond mine, maybe he was noticing things that I wasn't. What turned me against him was when I saw him blocking people before even analyzing the game, seeing that they clearly weren't cheating, and not even bothering to unblock them or apologize, let alone retract his accusation to his own stream. There were only two options: Kramnik is right or his opponent wasn't cheating, but there was no option for Kramnik to be wrong and he wasn't capable of admitting it. Hope he steps away from online chess and gets some fresh air, if you're really concerned that so many players are cheating that is the sane thing to do. Also sad for the players who legitimately beat him to have their victory cheapened like that.
I was one of the early people on kramniks blog giving him real math to explain why a certain game wasn’t cheated like he said (I wasn’t the only one) and he blocked us all. He’s not interested in telling the truth. He’s only interested in taking down online chess. He is an over the board purist that hates to lose.
@@JappyisHappy-sg6td that definitely helps to know, thanks for sharing! Nothing wrong with hating to lose, we all do to some degree, just there is when it becomes destructive like this.
@@JappyisHappy-sg6td I don't think he is even an over the board purist. I mean the man hasn't played a ranked classical game in years. Personally I think to a degree he understands that he simply is unable to compete on the level he once was, and if he accused every classical player to their face for cheating against him FIDE would have to throw him out eventually. Online chess is if you think about it the perfect place for a ex world champion who wants to reminisce about the glory days, any loss he suffers is just his opponent cheating and if he wins well that is exactly how it was supposed to be in the first place.
Opponent: *looks at the screen Kramnik: Ok. Everything is clear to me now. I will do the procedure.
he is me but at the gm level
waitng for 10 hour version
use the loop...since it is always the same...
Opponent: Breathes* Kramnik: "Okay it is time for procedure" 😤😤
Also Kramnik reporting his brother to his parents before internet exist .
"Very often one move is enough of an indicator" lmao
This is ridiculous. I’d be surprised if even 1 in 500 people are cheating at that level
Kramnik is so paranoid, he is losing it completely.
i love thats its called part 1, you just know there is coming more😂
Muuuummmm he played a better move than me. Ok son, block and report
The "part 1" in the title kills me 😂
Just because an underrated player is smarter than him doesnt mean he has to report them
Kramnik: Tells us the best line for his opponent Opponent: Finds the same line that Kramnik found Kramnik: "Clearly, he used an engine to find this line"
Hans Niemann and Kramnik saved chess world.
Hahahhahaha so true
It's normal tbh... Nowadays people can learn tactics much faster and there's literally a chess perfect games on any computer
still being 3K is impressive despite moving at such slow speed. just going to drop some points in time scrambles against decent players inevitably.
The bangers on repeat. 1:04 - “everything is very clear to me about this game. I report, okay. I block and report.” 4:40 - “lets do the procedure, uh block this is just what I do.” 6:40 - “okay of course report immediately I mean no doubt about this player, absolutely no doubt. So report him. Was he a good sport? No he was not a good sport.”
At 7:48 Could he not go Nxa5 Bxa5 Bxb3? He's got light square bishop and can protect a8 from the remaining pawn, while holding his dark squared pawns with the King. Feels drawish, maybe Im missing something?
The problem is it's a pretty dead draw and Kramnik said he wants to win even if he's risking losing.
"in blitz no chance to find this move" Have you ever played Hikaru🗿
He did and he also called him cheater xD
a problem is, that kramnik cannot use the mouse or doesnt even premove. Id love to help him buying a good mouse and install it.
All mouses can pre move, like my £5 HP one, he probably just doesnt know how to 😂
Letting the time run out against MetiForce after getting crushed was so sad 🤣 3:43
Bro after losing each game: "Ok, let's do the procedure"
He just wanna play with nice human beings like Levon Aranian
Bro is not accepting the lose
*Kramnik: everyone is cheating* *Also Kramnik: runs out of time in a 3 min game against "cheaters"*
We all tremble when we hear that Kramnik is going to do the PROCEDURE
opponent in last game was up 2 pawns and didnt manage to win. Kramnik: No doubt
Sitting in a basement, growing manboobs and vaping, growing more bitter by the day, is not my idea of the golden years.
To be fair, that doesn't look like a basement, but I agree about the manboobs.