Can China's Great Green Wall Stop Its Deserts From Spreading?
2023 ж. 24 Қаз.
330 255 Рет қаралды
Whilst many climate activists are fighting deforestation, China is going the extra mile to stop it's deserts from spreading by planting an insane amount of tree's, building massive forests to combat the problem. Today we look at the insane engineering behind this China's insane forestation mega project.
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Will this Chinese master plan work?
No... offcourse not... they will make claims and then run away with the allocated funds and lie about it.
Pretty sure fruit trees need more water
@@skizmo1905 nope, this is a party prestige project, running away with any significant amount of funds gets you executed. Plus they've already planted significant amounts of trees, its been ongoing for several years now. Actual long term effects are still unclear, china's approach to making large changes to the ecology is closer to 'mess around and find out' than the 10 years of research and assessment before doing anything approach in the west.
it is already a success lol, since the 70s, every failure is a step to success, and today their techniques have spread to all over africa.
@@nanonano2595 bruh, they've been at it since the 1970s lol, "actual long term effects are still unclear"??? See, this is the problem with china haters, they are brainwashed to see china decades ago, never wanting to see china today. Their re-desertification project is so successful it can be seen from space.
This is not the only video on KZhead about efforts in China to plant trees to improve the environment. I think people around the world should be supportive and try similar techniques around the world.
But china has the worst pollution in the world . And uses green washing to hide the fact they are the world's largest emmiters + while other countires have been closing coal power stations china hasnt . Yes growing diverse species of plants is good but can we really trust china ?
There is one in the Sahel
If only they weren't hell-bent on destroying the atmosphere, this wouldn't be a big problem.
@@snj123451mate, their emissions of GHG per capita is way lower than the US, they aren't going to let their people die to force them to not consume anything.
There are several even older videos about this topic on KZhead, and there are projects like this in other areas around the world also. The largest other project has got to be in Sahel zone.
I'm from China. A few years ago, I used Alipay's tree planting program to have my own small tree in northwest China.
RESPECT to those people working in desert for decades.
To critics of the work, I ask you to point out something done in any other part of the world of such magnitude... remembering: against the work done, no argument can be sustained... congratulations tô China and Chinese people... regards from Brasil... 😊
A similar project is going on in Africa. It´ s called "great" green wall
@@LichterLohe So... congratulations also to all people envolved in...
The one in Senegal seem to work very well. They do it in steps.
The Great Green Wall on the African continent seems to have a more sustainable method. They don't depend on external watering.@@CarpeDiem-ky1mv
@@jonasbarbosa4410 "I ask you to point out something done in any other part of the world of such magnitude" buddy you asked for it
I have 100% confidence in China' s potential in accomplishing and maintaining this initiative. China, India, and some in the USA are incredible accomplishments. These initiatives can help stop the mass extinction of bird species critical to the global health. Good for you China and all others involved in building these forests, marshlands, ponds, and lakes.
China is really amazing. They really work as a nation for the nation.
I applaud the effort. This is amazing.
sand storms prevailed in 1990s, mostly in spring, but now we don't see it at all or just occasionally meet the dusty and sandy air once in a year in north china. environment improved a lot!
Great work, I am impressed by China their work on this front. Andrew Millison has made a great series on KZhead on India's Water Revolution where India has been solving the water problems of over a 1000 villages by restoring ecosystem functions through top-down watershed management. It is nice that the countries with the most amount of people in the world are taking such active responsibility in regreening the landscapes and restoring the ecosystem functions.
Top down? How much do you trust that? I am suspicious until I know that they change and correct their mistakes as they go along.
@@eric2500 Yeah they explain it quite well in the videos what they have done. And show they start up high in the watershed to infiltrate water as high as possible so it runs through the soil and not over it so it doesn't cause erosion. Seems like a very solid and successful strategy.
@@eric2500 there are videos of them spray painting mountains green. It's all a front.
@@SoteksChunkyProphet-dg7io Just look up watershed management, India, Water Revolution. A lot of knowledge is available for free these days for people with a desire to help others and live in more harmony within their landscapes.
@@SoteksChunkyProphet-dg7io Relax with the insanity lol
It is a very important initiative. It is also a learning process where successes and failures will happen. How many wars have been started due to poverty and fights for resources. I am glad China has chosen this peaceful path towards properity.
Trees are awesome. They provide shade, prevent erosion , and create wind breaks.
That's a very human point of view. Not interested in ecosystems, biodiversity?
@@danguee1 deserts are not that great for bio diversity.
@@danguee1 Forests create ecosystems. Many areas in China are now populated by animal species that had been extinct there for over 50 years. Afforestation is a win for humans and a win for animals that need these ecosystems to survive.
I seen video talking about this project years ago, really sad to see most usa people only bashing at the idea, and stating about it disadvantages. This was during the time when usa put the covid blame on china entirely, and I have seen it effect, as a positive project like this are seen as bad due to political problem. All in all, I see this type of project as very positive, especially in the era of rapid gobalization with seen rise in CO2 emission. This sort of project is a maasive help to combat that as well. Not just to stop the desert spread.
I'm rather fond of how they're doing it in the Sahara, they're reshaping the sand to catch moisture. Then using several species of plants to help reinforce those structures. Then putting in trees. I see in China they're doing terracing, but they'll likely have to do something like what they're doing with the Sahara in the flatter parts of the Gobi.
Do they plant fruit trees too, they would grow well with heat, wish I was fit healthy I would go an help plant trees! Keep up good work.😊❤
Do plantation in your own country
Fruit trees need water.LOTS.
The answer strangely Yes. Alibaba actually subsidize one project to plant Orange, apple tree in one desert formed few hundreds years ago. the soil condition is not that bad, the project successful reversed it and now it is a national park full of trees, ponds and grassland.
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Like dates
It's already successful and moving from strength to strength.
Well done China
MUST BE SUCCESSFUL!!!
I hope all deserts will be planted green into forests and farms.
I believe these people know exactly how to manage these plantations. They will have learnt which species thrive and which don't. They obviously realise that maintenance after planting is top priority. Pity more countries don't have this work ethic.
you're delusional.
Shaun Overton bought a terrible piece of property in Texas, overgrazed by cattle again and again, and is trying to restore it. His latest effort is planting prickly pear cactus.
This project is just awesome! Rly rly awesome. This is what humanity has to do!!!!
The more they work on it the more experience they get.
"i dream of gardens in the deserts"
While here in the pacific northwest. Our thousand year old three hundred foot tall trees are clear cut. All the plants and creatures of the old growth forest die or leave. The new forests that grow where the old growth was are not managed and burn so hot even the top soil burns leaving nothing but rock and brush. It won't be the way it was for thousands of years.
We need more managed fires the eco system was designed to have fire . If its left for a long time it means lots of dead material stays on the ground which is fuel
Respect from Moscow!
At least they are moving in the right direction
3:39 for American viewers, that's a little less than 210 million football fields
😂
Better than not doing it
Viajar pela china é lição de vida ❤
This is the simplest way to stop global warming!
is it? this doesn't seem simple at all, it seems like an extremely complex mass effort that even if the entirety of China's land was greenified wouldn't offset the carbon released by the coal power plants used to power the factories that enable the Chinese economy to preform the project. Stopping the growth of deserts is an admirable goal, but this will not stop global warming.
@@edwxx20001 Coal is not going away any time this century. The best we can do is promote sustainable green energy and the expansion/creation of forests and wetlands in areas that have been desertified or are at risk of desertification.
Diversity of planting is paramount to success...They will learn this for best results...
Xi has a famous quote: green rivers and green mountains are our gold and silver treasures. Domething like that.
As a nation it sounds like one of the most sensible efforts to improve man's natural environment. I am not a friend of the Chinese government , but this environmental effort is definitely commendable.
Respect for it
Better to do what they are doing then nothing. All farming on land require one very important thing. A healthy soil that is alive with micro organisms. Get that right and u can grow plants. Plenty get it wrong and destroy the soil over time, leading to all sorts of degradation issues.
Nice thanks for sharing
China also has south north water project that bring water from southern China to northern China through newly built canal. I wonder if those water can be used for this greenwall project.
应该不是一个项目，沙漠基本处在中国地势第二阶梯，遍布高原和山地，把水从四川调过去难于登天，长江下游基本都是平原丘陵，调水工程量小的多
不是，南水北调工程解决的北方生活用水，沙漠用水这个量太少了
Still looks like monocultures in that footage. Aforestation in New Zealand looks like planting pioneer species first and once they’ve established a canopy then less hardy plants characteristic of a climax ecosystem are introduced to boost biodiversity and natural regeneration
There are literally thousands of such projects going on in China at the moment. Most of them have long ago learned not to go with monoculture.
My criticism is they are growing another "crop" all be it with significant carbon capture. As commented below (Mossy Earth), for increasing biodiversity you need to mix the species planted using local adapted species and creat a "forest". Even in a forest, there is a potential for harvest if that is one aim of the project.
you do understand that trees live longer than people right? and if its the first generation of trees thats at least gonna be like 50 years before they replant them with different trees
Problem is you’re talking about low biodiversity trees vs no trees. I have to assume they’re only able to plant desert-resistant trees anyway, and the proper biodiverse forests wouldn’t survive in these initially arid environments. Why not solve the problem first before introducing more biodiversity?
@@jaytang4954 Exactly, they've already made huge progress. In the beginning I can understand they just want to wind block and lock up the sand with dropped foliage as much as possible. The other thing is all these trees even if mono culture are creating a canopy to shield the saplings and other upcoming plants below them, so its multi generational. And in the desert people grow like this all the time, in the beginning they try to grow whatever will be fast and provide shade and a starter canopy, after that you can get more picky with species.
China don't have typical western mentality that I want to see result tomorrow. Just like the current generation of Chinese success was built on hard work and sacrifice of previous generation of hardworking Chinese. You can't reach the moon in one step. China has plenty other projects to reduce carbon emission and capture carbon. But stopping desertification is a already a positive step in saving existing farmland saving carbon capture.
While I kinda agree, I think the first step is plant trees that are able to survive then increase biodiversity later. Kinda like getting the desert sands to become able to support life.
before planting trees they should plant grass,shrubs and improve the microorganism rate. then plant tree i beleive.
no.. tree first, once tree planted then birds and bugs will come. tree litters will be foods for microorganism. bird will poop seed and create biodiversity. China did it right. But again, we dont know what will happen as this is not natural... if I am not mistaken sahara dessert was there to pump certain mineral to atmosphere and then send it via cloud, real cloud.. not your data cloud to Latin America Tropical Forest ( amazon, costa rica or whatever ).. I think it was phosphate from sahara to rainforest of latin america
The US: China must stop planting trees and respect the rights of the desert. Lol
Grow cattle and camels and goats and sheep and chickens and ducks once the trees start growing. Use industrial boilers to produce millions of tons of steam to release into the air at nights to produce rain artificially. Build large lakes and grow fishes. Many things can be done to green the desert.
"Build large lakes and grow fishes." Yep. That is already being done in the deserts of Xinjiang. Additional benefits are large-scale production of seafood in the desert, and the increased employment of the local population.
Mossy Earth reports that these monoculture forests did not do so well, because they planted monoculture trees from foreign shores instead of desert adapted species that are native. Those trees suck up water even more and were used for lumber, not let to rot into the soil and enrich it. Mossy Earth also reports that they have started to plant native species and that is working better. *Numbers of trees don't well as native trees, shrubs, insects and animal life that is adapted to the desert. Yeah, it is slower that way, but you can keep it.*
It’s good everyone knows that channel !!! They actually know more species and pros/cons.
Mossy Earth is awesome! They're doing such amazing work!
You think they are planting coconut trees there lol? The majority of the trees planted there is Populus, a native tree that can survive desert
you can tell from the video quite a variety of trees planted. This project has been there for more than 10 years, the side effect should be able to observe once there is any. Mossy earth somehow mixed several projects together, and analyze it for the de-desertification. There are areas, specifically in south China, companies rent the land, Hills and planted trees harvested for paper making, and lumber as you mentioned, but for those planted in desert is not allowed to cut down for any purpose. Alibaba, and other Tech Giant actually has a micro app to allow their users to choose which tree to plant, and users can monitor the growth online.
Mistakes were made. Lessons were learned. And now more effective afforestation is being done.
Wow! Great informative!
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Yes! China is at higher latitudes and the moisture is sufficient for Green Cover, Drones do accelerate the process of Green Cover and getting the new varieties of Species that could be sampled out for Micropropagation at tremendous speeds in the geographical area increasing the Green Cover at faster rates that generates Employment and Tourism and the Agriculture Industry.
The New Great Wall of China
Kalo di Wakanda, proyeknya bikin sebanyak2nya hutan jadi kota
Yes building and cutting has to stop and help each other
This is a very positive program, i hope china makes it
some time a strong government can united his ppl to do something magnificent for the world . i think ppl need to reassess the capital power that eroded the true purpose of a government.
Grand work. Imagine something like this is USA.
Why? If you think we don't have enough trees... you should get out of your city apartment and try walking around the real America... its nice out here.
@@thebackyardbear not everywhere. USA even have places that would be much better with cactus thickets.
@@tyalikanky WTH, there are a tremendous amount of trees in the United States. We don't have a "Gobi" desert that is encroaching, not even in the Southwest.
@@besomewheredosomething You obviously don't have a gobi desert that is approaching, bc the gobi desert is in china as said in the videos. But yes, the deserts in the us are not really growing as of right now. The only problem is wildfires.
@@michikatsutsugikuni3098 No shit Sherlock, it’s a phrase stating we don’t have anything like the Gobi encroaching, even with the U.S. desert southwest taken into consideration. The wildfires actually help tree growth over the medium and long term.
All these reforestation initiatives all over the world are great! The world's survival depends on their success, not economic profitability.
The few people in the comment section should really buy a mirror and think about how qualified you are to make strange comments without knowing the full picture. China plants more trees each year than the rest of the world combined and you can check this straight from Google Academics, and the only reason you don't know about it is because a lot of people don't want you to know, there are countless technologies and experiences about tree planting comes from it that can be extended to other Asia and Africa countries. While someone's hometown will only have a lot of "Greta" in private jets to attend the UN meeting, it is difficult for Chinese people to listen to some country with full house air conditioning and private jets and also not even be able to controlling forest fires to teach others how to "environmental protection"and "carbon emission" .Just like Taylor Swift wouldn't let me teach her how to sing.❤
It look good, if they dont do anything it is bad
Look into the Mulloon Creek Project in Australia started by the genius Peter Andrews!
This is a beautiful project that began a while ago, the quality of leadership other nations breed. i still wish. ..african leaders could have been smart in decision making and wise leaders like the long ago leaders. I wish they could see that the west is flourishing and one of the reasons being africa minerals and other resources. i wish the leaders now could grow balls and back bones and start rebuilding Africa.
The problem in Africa is that all of the leaders that have championed the nation-building that you speak of have been victims of US/UK assassinations, coups, and destabilization campaigns. Taking a deep dive into post WWII African history is a very, very depressing activity. Do so at your own peril.
China is promoting amazing transformations.
Tudo é um começo,depois água depois a floresta os bambus já é cem anos o que é cem anos para Cinco Mil anos ?;vocês são uns queridos são os mágicos verdadeiros magicos estudar a china e envolve lá num coração porque por favor esse povo não tem como dar atributos é muita história, história, história riqueza, pobreza ,derrota, divisão,união ,🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 redenção dos oprimidos 😢
Nice and promising! Great work! And for now: work on the human rights. (tell your boss!)
You "forgot" to talk about the green painting !
Good move by China. I think US must take a page out of China's book and do something similor.
This is very good, should be global effort
Penghijauan sangat penting untuk mengatasi pemanasan global. Gerakan menanam pohon harus dilakukan tiap keluarga
Whatever grows in that soil and creates the most biomass to start with. Then a crop and bind the soil and plant trees
Yes, all countries must do the same as china in controlling the desert expansions.
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Yes.
meu respeito à China, demonstra que através do trabalho árduo e constante se obtem resultados
Yes it can stop desertification.. _-name coined back round 2000, when I first heard of it But as it is. It will take time. Money, water and care.
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涉及到中国，我看到部分国家的网民的无知和偏见
他们从小都接受的是中国的负面信息，负面的中国是他们思维方式的一部分。当有中国正面信息出现时，他们本能的反抗和讨厌
习惯就好。这些酸民宁愿看见世界更多沙漠，都不要看到中国绿化的成功。毕竟黄种人的成功颠覆了他们多年来的优越感。事实会证明一切。
Just shows , we forget that we so often share more than we differ with other countries, different cultures and social systems. Which is better, global behemoths like Montanto whose eye is just on the bottom line, or what we perceive as Chinese restrictive communism who seemingly are doing great things for their people and the world with this exercise? Can the West collaborate effectively with China for global good , or will our system of needing an enemy to support the military and keep politicians powerful preclude that collaboration and deny the West answers to our own ecological problems . As Churchill said, Jaw-jaw is better than war-war so lets give talking a chance
They are also channelling water from the South to the North...this will ease..the annual flooding problem of the central plain and provide water to the north...😮😅😊
Muhteşem.
1:00 that audio needs to be toned down. Scared the hell out of me.
Нам тоже нужен Синь Дзынь Пинь! У нас есть Астрахань, Калмыкия, Ставрополье, Крым... Абрикос и акация хорошо растёт, как минимум, пчеловодам будет польза, нам мёд, зверям дом... Чё Наши закон не примут об обязательном ежегодном озеленении??! С каждого по дереву каждый год - не дорого. 10 лет - 1,5 млдр. деревьев - Астрахань зелёная.
that kind of re greening the desert should follow in Africa and Australia so more land can become productive as agriculture , water retention and hopefully lower planet temperature
China learns and adapts that's why it's a world leader as opossed to not doing anything.
You mean "steals" and adapts. There, fixed that for ya!
The system implemented in Senegal seem to be a most feasible.
The problem of this project is that planting trees is not enough and a lot of them died. For it to survive, you need to planta forest which is a balance between different plants and animals. It s the same problem with our tree forest culture and our monocultural agriculture. Now they get it. Many countries in the worldare now greening what was 100 or 200 years ago beautiful forest. The shame is that humans don t get that they have to manage their own population too, not in the way China did, which was a big mistake tho.
Amazing.. let's hope they don't just use a single species of trees, high risk of disease spread.
To start off, they have very limited choices for such environment.
What percent of these planted trees survived ?
The red dye is a give away that things are dodgy at best.
prisoner cell should be placed in such area and they should have been used to create and maintain jungles
lumber prices going down..
The images were a bit random and misleading. For eksempel, are all the forest images, from this project?
Buen que vueno eso para la naturaleza vendí siones
Finally china doing something decent
Life creates water too.
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Extremely reassuring!!!!!
No apple trees were planted wtf 😅
It wasnt urbanization that led to the deserts. The deserts have been there for ages. Over grazing, logging were the causes.
Зеленые леса на месте пустынь!
Short answer: No. Long answer: It's already failed.
what about desert ecosystem and the dangerous of fires???
So basicly the ba sing se wall is getting attcks from the sand benders????