Robert Spencer was interviewed by Dr Smith on his book 'Did Muhammad Exist?' for an hour. He did a great job of reviewing why the historical Muhammad of the 7th century is quite different from the 9th-10th century traditional view we have of Muhammad, questioning why there is so little evidence for him anywhere in the century he lived, while simultaneously asking whether we should believe in any of the references we have of Muhammad from the later centuries?
They also discussed the problem of 'embarrassment' and how we can respond to them, as well as looking at why Abd al-Malik needed Muhammad, and why he indeed needed Islam, as well as what this means for Islam today.
Robert would like to do a follow-up session where people like you can ask him questions directly. So, if you would like to put questions to him, write them below, in the 'comments' section, and we will schedule another interview, possibly next week to let you direct your queries to him.
Enjoy the interview.
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I owe a lot to Robert Spencer. Back in my college days the woman who would become my wife and mother of my kids (whom I love very much 😊) Was a Shia Muslim. After she read the History of Jihad she became a Christian. 4 years later we got married.
Great. Bless your home.
Happy for you guys. May the Lord God bless your marriage. May you guys Continue to grow in the Lord in Jesus Mighty name.
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Thank you Robert Spencer. I read the Quran. I am not Mulism. I hate no one. When I have asked questions from the Quran that contradict what the Islam teachers say. They always go around it or do not answer it. They even said I have read it wrong, even when point it out. I thank you for telling the truth. This is not hate you are speaking it's the truth
Im assuming you do not read or speak Arabic when asking this. When you speak to Muslims about the Quaran, do they ever mention that it can only be read in Arabic? Any other language is aberrant? Some other Christian apologists who engage with Muslims have said the Muslims will object to any non-Arabic based interpretation or exegesis.
@@blchamblisscscp8476 Ironically the OLD arabic that the Quran is written in is hardly AT ALL spoken or understood by contemporay Arabic speakers. The similarity would be between Anglo Saxon and contemporrary English.
@@julien1 No it isn't, it's more like Early Modern English and Modern English.
There are no contradictions in the Qur'an.
@@michealbadman6411 I stand corrected if wrong but how many English people are fluent in early modern, it may as well be like anglo saxon.
You can refute the “anti-Muslim” accusation to a leftist like this. Them: “You’re anti Muslim” You: “What do you think of Nazism?” Them: “I hate it.” You: “So you hate Germans?” Them: “No of course not.” You: “So you can criticise Nazism without hating Germans?” Them: “Yes.” You: “So I can do the same for Islam and Muslims then.” Them: 😮
A better conversation would be: “Do you hate the Germans living today for Nazism” Answer: “Of course not”. Do you hate the Germans who condoned and supported the Nazi regime and still do? Answer: “Yes”
I don't hate Muslim, I just can't comprehend trusting the word of Muhammad as truth cause Muhammad is a pedophile,murde rer,who loot and enslave human and turn woman to sex slaves. I would not trust a criminal regarding Go. And Muslim says Quran is a word of god and the proof of that is just trust me bro(trust Muhammad) trust that this angel gibril is a real angel of god and Allah is really the creator. Gibril maybe a demon or just made up by Muhammad and also Allah he might be a demon or a fragment of Muhammad's imagination
One of the best scholars of Islam. Always very refreshing to hear him... RESPECT!!!
Muhammad is the guy who married a 6 year old girl. He was close to 50 at the time.
Robert is THE Hero of our time. You're looking well Mr. Spencer! ❤
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Amen
Looking forward to Robert Spencer's revised M book & his new book!
@@endpc5166 yes agreed
If anyone sees that guy Sheik with the link above. Don't waste your tims with his link. Its a bunch of random muslims using bad information to try and do Dawah.
I was Muslim ones and I become Christian too now I become profoundly human.
Why leave one nonsense religion to join another nonsense religion?
Wait till he figures out the bible is not only plagerized but also highly if not completely erroneous and fictitious... That'll be a fun day for him
@@RoyalKnightVIIIbetter believe in a God than to believe nothing created matter..so you believe in magic?
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@@LucaBrasi7548 this is the issue, you think if I reject the bible and quran that entails i think no sentient being initiated the big bang. some people just claim they dont know so they wont lie to themselves. i dont know the truth and i dont care, because i dont think i will ever know the truth about the universe's origins and what happens after death. its almost as if abrahamic religions r just man made books that try and explain those questions we dont know and wont ever truly know the answer to. not only do i not know if a "god" exists, but i certainly dont think that if it is still alive at this exact moment, nor do i think it 100% would contact humans. i also think it is highly suspicious that the god from bible and quran has never "re-visted" earth since the dark ages. today, with science and tech, we r the best equipped we have ever been to demonstrate and share the veracity of an all-knowing, all-powerful being.
What an incredible, brilliant conversation. Thank you so much.
I have many of Robert Spencer’s books and had the pleasure of hearing him speak in person. All of his material is very factual and well researched, backed up with references and documentation.
Dude look at the hundreds of non Muslim records of Muhammad shortly after Muhammad died , I’m not Muslim but Muhammad definitely existed
robert is a having-head-cut-off-a-phobe
@@whatsgood4666 there's not hundreds of non muslim records. there's not even any muslim records. about 90 years later abdul malik mentioned Mohammad for the first time. and 150 after Mohammad the hadith were written down.
Comment Freely Muslims used oral tradition , but there are a lot of non Muslim records from Africa to China , read seeing Islam as others saw it
@@whatsgood4666 Would love to see these! Give specific references, please, so I can see them for myself.
Can't believe I ran across two of my heroes starting a conversation about data which I have argued about on Twitter and elsewhere. The conversation, I believe could be labeled historical. I believe I have seen many, many hour-long videos in which Dr.Jay Smith taught the historical Muhammad or the Quran. And I believe I have every book that Bob Spencer wrote. In fact, as I recall, he sent me one and I sent him mine in return. If anyone can pull this video up again , it is worth every second of listening--no punches were pulled and nothing left unsaid.
This book is a complete waste of time. It's just Spencer lining his pockets off of the false hope that Islam might reform. Not happening.
Jay and Robert thanks for your work, the historical study of Islam and Muhammad is very interesting on its own right and shows another way in which Muslim claims completely fail when tested.
Thanks to both Dr. Smith and Robert Spencer. It was a great experience listening to you both.
I think Robert Spencer is a great and honest and intelligent man.I have the greatest admiration for his tenacity in his search of the truth about a religion.
If so, why afraid to call Christian prince a debate? We'll listen for the truth to come out..
Watch any Christian Muslim debate and judge for your self....James white himself got crashed by Shabir Ally...
@@mohammedamkor4748 DO NOT GET SMASHED OH JUDGEMENT DAY BY JESUS AND HIS SAINTS.
@@mayamurthy3824 Hi Maya... No need to write all in capital ( that is rude ) ... I love Jesus ... just like any other prophet who delivered the massage of oneness of God ( Allah ) ... God does not need a son or a daughter... There is nothing comparable to God Almighty. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.
@@mohammedamkor4748That may be the message of the Quran “ The oneness of God but it is Not the message that is spoken of right throughout the bible nor is it the message that Jesus preached .
First time I heard Robert Spencer’s argument, I thought he was nuts. Now…….. a while later and a bit more learned, I see that he has a very sensible historical case to make.
Watching and Listening from Nairobi Kenya.
welcome guys kenya please record this video sent all you frients
Amen , let's educate the whole world on this✝💖🇺🇲
Poor Kenyan, dont fall for these lies, I am neutral, I can tell you these guys are full of lie and an embarrassment to academic field
@@htccht4111 butthurt abdul idiot, your muhmd was child rapist pedophilia bewitched man
@@htccht4111 , pls show your proofs man... Be a man of the Truth , don't depend on what have you been heard from your emam or your known scholars with nothing dept proofs..
Really great to see the two of you together!! 32:30 On the Dome of the rock, have you considered the context of its construction (685-691) by abd alMalik during the time of his conflict with ibn alZubayr? For a time, the Kaaba was not accessible to those under abd alMalik's rule, whether in Petra or Mecca, so there would be a temptation to create a rival Kaaba (in similar thinking to Jeroboam and the temple being in Jerusalem, so he starts a new religion confined to the territories of the Northern kingdom). With that in mind, what does the Dome of the Rock look like? It looks like it's built to be circumambulated, with plenty of space around it for people to do so - and it even has its own rock inside to venerate. Later, with ibn alZubayr eliminated (691), and the Kaaba accessible again even though displaced, the Dome of the Rock could be re-purposed.
I’ll put Spencer on my list of favorite teachers. Thanks for introducing him Jay👍🏻
Learn from muslims
Jay, glad you brought Robert Spencer. Appreciate Him here. He is tooo valuable a person for humanity. Jay, TIME STAMPS PLEASE! God Bless Him.
I'm a proud islamophobe
There is no alla and mohammed except abdul malik and yusuf ahjaji
No Gladys .. there is an allah the nebatian god. All the original masks are nebatian
Thank you Spencer for the your time. Hats off to you.
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Great to see you two great men together conversing and sharing truths! 🙏🏼🇬🇧🇺🇸✝️⛪️
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@@mansoorahmedh4853 Challenge those two. Don't be a coward.
Jay, I like the fact that every time you demolish Islam, you provide the genuine alternative, the Lord Jesus Christ.
Sorry I missed the live stream. Robert was kind to me once. He gave me several of his books for my classroom. I’ve heard him dozens of times. I think he is right.
This book is a complete waste of time. It's just Spencer lining his pockets off of the false hope that Islam might reform. Not happening.
Unfortunately Only blind follow Robert Spencer
@@hrargate only the blind follow Islam.
@@LogansWarning you wish
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What an absolute pleasure to see both of these two beautiful faces on the one screen. I hang for every word you both are about to say as I sit in owe of how much The Holy Spirit is deeply entrenched in your minds and souls. Much love to the both of you.
Robert Spencer this is your great contribution and research to the world about the truth of Islam .
Much love and respect for both men of God✊❤️
Where are you from Jamal? Pakistan or Afghanistan?
What?
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This book is a complete waste of time. It's just Spencer lining his pockets off of the false hope that Islam might reform. Not happening.
I come from my reasoning rather than my beliefs. Evidence is more important Than belief. People still believe that the earth is flat. You have to prove it is flat.
I appreciate the versions of Truths expressed by Robert Spencer. May God Bless you Mr.Spencer! Good luck.
If you have any specific questions for Robert Spencer and Jay Smith concerning whether Muhammad ever existed, please put them down in this Comment section here, and we will have a 'live' Question and Answer program to respond to them.
Question: The Masjid Al-Haram inscription of 697/698 plainly states that it was "built" in that year, not re-built, how does Robert Spencer respond to that? Does he think it was the year THE masjid Al Haram was first built or was it simply a rebuilding?
"Mohammed's death is normally placed in 632, but the possibility that it should be placed two or three years later cannot be completely excluded. The Muslim calendar was instituted after Mohammed's death, with a starting-point of his emigration (hijra) to Medina (then Yathrib) ten years earlier. Some Muslims, however, seem to have correlated this point of origin with the year which came to span 624-5 in the Gregorian calendar rather than the canonical year of 622." - www.opendemocracy.net/en/mohammed_3866jsp/ Where exactly is it written that he died in 632 AD, and what about this above?
@Edgar Morina You are badly mistaken. First off, I have never read your book. Secondly, I don't shadow ban. If you copy and paste a comment - which I suspect is the case - KZhead automatically throws that into spam. Thirdly, I get recommended 2-3 books or papers a week to read, but I often just don't get the time to do so. I spend 20-30 hours working on my channel and your claim is just absurd. Fourthly, I received a tweet message the other day regarding the Masjid Al Haram and it was through that I became aware of it and I am more than happy to send a timestamped image of that tweet if you should so wish. Fifthly, all this information is in the public forum and to think you have exclusive knowledge of it is delusional. I wish I had the time you think I have to read this book of yours. With all due respect, your claim is false and I would appreciate an apology. If I do get a chance to read your book, I will give it due mention.
Is there any new evidence for any of the 4 caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali)? If so, how would this effect any of the conclusions drawn in the book?
@Edgar Morina Listen, I sympathise as I know what it is like to put a book out there and to get little response. My advice is "don't big up your own book". Don't devalue it either by giving it away for free. If you have put in a lot of research time, then it deserves to be monetised. If it is good, then the people who read it will spread the word. I remember the contents being extensive which is a good sign. But also remember a lot of information is already out in the public domain and you can't go around assuming that people are using your material, it will make you look bad.
We all know and love Robert Spencer😊
I literally finished reading this book last night! I did find it a really compelling read and I didn't really want to put it down once I picked it up. I hear that a lot of the ideas and concepts of the book are disputed and I do keep hearing that scholars are constantly uncovering evidence that are consistently in line with the traditional narrative of Islamic history so... I don't know. All I can do is look at both sides of the arguments (seeing as there are reputable sources on both sides) and wait for more evidence to come out. The problem is that I'm from a Muslim background and the area I live in has religion embedded in it and so my natural bias is to go with the traditional narrative but, like I said, his book "Did Muhammad Exist?" did really open my eyes.
Fahim, what are some of the evidences you have seen or heard about which support the Traditional Account of Muhammad's life? I'd love to hear about them.
@@pfanderfilms Not sure if 'evidence' was really the correct word of me to use. But just one example, Professor Joseph Lumbard basically asserts that even the Sanaa manuscript doesn't show vastly different arabic textual variants that would effect the meaning (see link). He also says that the more manuscripts are found the more it affirms the traditional narrative. kzhead.info/sun/ntCrY66xaZdpoKM/bejne.html I'm not sure what evidence this is based on, however since I know nothing about any of this I'm not really in a position to disagree with him. I'd love to hear any thoughts you have about the link!
@@fahimcan12345 I'm not sure how an 8th century manuscript of the Qu'ran (the Sana'a manuscript) supports the traditional narrative of Muhammad, since by that time Muhammad would have been well known, and the Qur'an would be in its infancy stages of being written. What's more, the Sana'a is only around 28% of the Qur'an, and is a palmimpsest, which means it has a lower layer of writing, and that lower layer has 60 verses, with over 70 differences in that layer with that of the upper layer. How can that be authoritative?
Looking forward to your reply to this, Jay. (Love your work)
@@pfanderfilms I saw a video recently from Dan Gibson about the historical Muhammad - I'd love to hear what you think about it (if you haven't seen it yet that is) kzhead.info/sun/bM2dl76ioKOijJ8/bejne.html I suppose the main flaw I can see in his video is that books such as Spencer's book don't necessarily claim that Muhammad didn't exist but rather that his life was greatly exaggerated and that he didn't necessarily have anything to do with the religion of Islam.
I have finally mastered Dr. Jays "whittling down" sound! Hahahahhahahaha!
Watched the whole show. An exciting survey of historical persons and events and the formation of the Quran and the Prophet Muhammad himself. Will look out for those two books.
Why is it taking so long? Wait till July? Is the publisher adverse, reluctant?
@@endpc5166 Publication does take time. Good things come for those who can wait. Look out also for Binimad Al-Ateeqi's 5-volume books for the latest story of Islam. Binimad was educated in the UK and USA as a military officer. He has found interesting old military maps of Mecca and its surrounding mountains and caves. Not clear if his studies are up to PhD level.
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This book is a complete waste of time. It's just Spencer lining his pockets off of the false hope that Islam might reform. Not happening.
@@LogansWarning Prove it. Don't talk cock.
Jay that was an excellent, fascinating conversation. You are a great interviewer - please do more like this!
Amazing men these 2 here on the video!! Thank you! :) You are a blessing, may our Lord bless you two!
This is so educational. Thank you so much guys.
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Glad to listen to you both. I followed you Both years ago and learned a lot.
That was so good. They covered so much ground in just 60 minutes. Amazing! I agree with the assessments 100%.
Wonderful job God bless you both👍🙏💖
Superb analysis, gentlemen. And thankyou for your attention to detail.
Knowing history, knowing the truth.
This book is a complete waste of time. It's just Spencer lining his pockets off of the false hope that Islam might reform. Not happening.
History is not necessarily the truth - history is written by the victors!
I think you are on to something
If history isn't forged and fabricated.
Two great men telling the truth
Amen ✝️🕊🙏🏻
Muslims are afraid of these 2 men. They can not come up with an argument to challenge them.
God bless you guys for your faithfulness in the work He has entrusted to you.
Loved this interview! Can't wait to buy your work Dr. Spencer!
Thank you Jay and Robert. Wow love your work.
Two giants meet up fantastic to see you both !!!!!!
Two people that are destined for hell fire meet up.
@@RizwanAli-hp9jb destined for hell is crazy 🤪 that means they'll meet your prophet opps wait he never existed so who's really going to hell
@@RizwanAli-hp9jbellfire 😂😂😂😂😂 How stupid ! Hellfire is nothing but a pagan dogma Platonism to be exact , that priests used as a way to scare people, there is no such place .
Thank you for sharing your knowledge sir. God bless you.
I'm waiting for a book which compares women's rights during the Roman, Byzantine/Greek, Persian, Egypt, Ethiopian, Jewish, Christian, Chinese, Hindu "jahilyya" eras, with Muslim women rights after Islam. I'm sure that'd be a shock to a Muslims' conscience.
Take time to read about Lingayats and the equal status women have that religion
PBWY. Please do and you will find Islam to be the truth in relation to Women's rights, Men's rights and also animal rights! That certainly would be a shock to your conscience.
@@AllTruthRevealed lol
@@dailytopvideos1190 Please share you humour.
@@AllTruthRevealed religion of peace.
It's amazing and great, listening to so much of research of Islam and Mohammad ! I am new addition to your audience, from India.
From India too 😊
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I am a follower of Chris hitchen I think people should read him And you will really know even more
Well, Jay, I have been looking forward to this for quite some time and boy did it live up to my expectations! I am glad that either by design or by accident the issue of Mohammad as a name vs. a sobriquet came up. I have been trying to find out if this word, as a name, existed prior to Islam. I couldn't find any examples in my research but as Dan Gibson keeps saying. "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." Robert Spencer made it clear, as a personal name it did not exist prior to Islam. That has always made sense to me. After all, what loving mother would name her kid: "The one worthy of praise". If that didn't earn him an unending series of wedgies from his classmates nothing would! Now you and Robert Spencer have me champing at the bit for the next episode. May it be soon and may there never come a day when some far distant historian writes a book titled "Did Jay Smith and Robert Spencer Exist?"
Mohamed is Jesus written in Aramaic, but read in Arabic, look at this www.pinterest.com/pin/567805465492896829/ if you know Arabic alphabet you'll realize that it is Muhamed.., Very strange no ? Maybe Muhamed was trying to identify with Jesus somehow?
www.reddit.com/r/religion/comments/9jdmzx/jesus_in_aramaic_and_muhammad_in_arabic/ This site shows is better
@Hineni John3:16 not sure what's funny :) There's growing evidence that early arabs used Syriac gospels and stole content from them to write the Quran, so this might have inspired them when they came up with Muhammed.
Robert is the best!
Love the content of your videos. I think if you could condense the content to 20 minutes or less. And break up the videos with longer times. You can get more traffic. Reach a broader audience. Just a suggestion.
What great ideas and insight enlightening discussion.christ bless you both.
@40:00 the "Dome of the Rock" would have taken inspiration from the Church of St Procopius in Caesarea (province of Palestine) built in 484 AD. Also the "Golden House" church of Antioch (province of Syria) built 327 AD (finally destroyed by an earthquake in 588 AD) had the same eight sided layout, with an ambulatory around a central area. Capped with a domed roof.
I read the book back in 2012, I remember it being the gateway to Ibn Warraq's books which are the real deal.
Wonderful to have the assurance that what I am learning is based on fact. I cannot thank you enough.
Two fonts of knowledge I enjoy much, armed with facts and a dedication admirable.
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Robert Spencer is an absolutely brilliant apologist !!
I'm gonna have to read this book now and more of this content.
Thank you Jay and Robert! From Scotland 🏴 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Interesting piece of work jay GBY♥️🙏
This was way overdue! Please do more!
God bless Jay and Robert thank thank you for all of hard work you both have put in ,very enlighten 💜✝️
Stunning conversation.
Quran was written specifically to counter the Bible.
which was in the hands of Arabic speaking Jews, Nestorians, Nazarines (a sort of 'Christians'), Armenians and few others in Arabia according to Prof Sidney H Griffiths. See his book 'The Church in the Shadow of the Mosque. (Princeton University Press, 2008).
Lool, that means you clearly have not read or heard the quran
@@teefx5681 Comparative studies in progress for better understanding of how Islam evolved.
Which bible ? There is only one Qur'an and 4 different bibles , let alone those parts not considered in bible
@@alaagoni8227 there's more, 4 only canonised.
Loads of information to digest and learn👌👌
Dr. Jay, thank you for this informative session. I heard that the writings on the walls of Dome of the Rock is about Jesus Christ!? I would appreciate if you could make a short video about that in the near future. Thanks & God bless.
Listening from Tanzania.
Really it’s fantastic study and revelation hats of to you guys
Great work, Robert Spencer...
God Bless You Both
Thank you so much Mr Spencer. Much love from the Maronites!
Awesome thanks plenty for your amazing work 👍 God's Blessings
good work god bless you both
God bless robert an jay.
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Thank you Dr Jay and Robert Spencer. I inherited Muhammadism from my father. However through your research, I became a Non Idolatrous Monotheistic Gnostic and are free from ALL Religions. I now have absolute faith in myself. Thank you
Have you ever read the Quran?
Gnosticism is definitely a religion. Lol Possibly even a cult! 😂😢 I pray you come to know the Only Beggoten Son of God, Jesus Christ as your Lord, God and Saviour!!! 🙏🙌✝️
Thank you both so very much!
I can see why @32:31 is the most replayed...of course that's it....
It is the theology and social practices of Islam that I find so offensive....and I don't think it can be described as anything other than evil.
I like Robert's Smile.
We really need a full examination of the Sana’a documents , is there any chance of this happening ?
Yes, we will get to the Qur'an and the earliest manuscripts, in time.
Do share the video - it's good for discussion.
very compelling segment by two very knowledgeable scholars.
I missed the livestream :(
An hour well spent , exellent talk, just one critic Robert speak perfectly and i could understand evrything he said not the same with Dr J .Smith, he speak far to fast and for a poor 80 Y/old men like me it is to difficult to follow & understand him . I've been following you both for longtime & I thank you very much for your knowlege.& J.Smith you are legend at the speaker corner. THANK YOU BOTH MAY GOD BLESS-YOU . AMEN
3 years late here but here's a tip: on the video (bottom right corner) you can click "Settings", click "Playback Speed," and select .75 speed, in that way jay's fast speaking style will be slowed just enough for you to clearly understand him.
The truth hurts and the internet is destroying islam and helping Christianity. John 14:6
@@jrex3575he doesn't want to understand. Brainwashed
Amazing work. Such scholarship, wow
Amazing discussion Jay thank goodness 😅
that was fascinating i love hearing robert spencer talk .Surly the curtain is coming down for islam.thanks jay brother
PBWY. Respectfully the more Islam is 'exposed' the more people are embracing it! On an evidential plane Islam is the only comprehensive system (real not dreamy) from the Creator which can be accepted using reason, rationality and reasonableness on the back of evidence.
@@AllTruthRevealed And muslims are leaving islam too.
The word "Muhammad" isn't a NAME, it is a title- the GLORIOUS ONE. So what was his NAME? Every time we read the word "Muhammad" in our mind let's read "the Glorious One", and try to put a human being behind that title? Doesn't that word, Muhammad, describe the god of the Islamic Religion? I stand corrected- "The Praised One" should replace the glorious one 😁
REAL Tomb OF JESUS DOES NOT EXIST!! scientifically proven now its not from the time of christ " they killed him not" 'Tomb of Jesus not from the time of jesus was built 300yrs later only 1,700 Years | Live Science www.livescience.com/61043-tomb-of-jesus-excavated.htmlMohamed in the Bible: 1)Deuteronomy 18:18-19 {I will raise a Prophet {like you} from their Brothers (Ismaeel)}. Mosses & Mohamed both born naturally. Both sent out from their homeland. Both married more than once. Both received Holy books (Torah & Quran) 📚 from Gabriel the Holy Spirit & Both died naturally. 2)Deuteronomy 33:2 {And he said: “The LORD came from Sinai (Mosses), And dawned on them from Seir mountain (Jesus); He shone forth from Mount Paran 🗻(Mohamed), And He came with ten thousands of saints (Companions); From His right hand Came a fiery law (Sharia Law) for them.}. This is Prophet Mohamed opening Macca with 10,000 Companions!!! 3)John 16:12 {I have many more things to say to you, but you can’t bear them now!!!} You can’t bear them now in 33 AD but in 570 AD when Prophet Mohamed is born if God day is 1,000 year hence, he came after half day!!! 4)John 16:13 {But when He, The Spirit of Truth comes, He will guide you into all the Truth, He will not (speak) on his own initiative, but whatever he (hears), He will (Speak), and He will disclose to you what is to come.} Prophet Mohamed informed us in 12 hr speech all coming events until we enter Paradise!!! If Holy Spirit he doesn’t have initiative and another Holy Spirit tell him what to say!!! If Holy Spirit why he didn’t say that rather than He 6 times!!? Holy Spirit or Ghost we say (It) not (He 6 times). He shall (speak) not reveal!!! Is Holy Ghost has mouth like Casper!!? Any Christian have a record of Holy Spirit (Speeches & Prophecies)!!!? 5)Solomon Songs 5:16 in Hebrew Mahamedem The em is added for respect like Allah is Allahem or Elohem. In Semitic languages Mohamed is 4 letters only like MHMD محمد from right to left!!! Mohamadem was translated in English to ALL LOVELY!!! How can you translate names!!? 6)Isaiah 42:11 House of Kidar 2nd Son of Ismaeel (Genesis 25:13) is Quraish & Kaba 🕋 where Prophet Mohamed was born. Kedar is his Great Grandfather. Sela سلع is mountain in Madinah ⛰next to Prophet Mohamed Mosque 🕌!!! Call of Prayer is the only one to say Raise their (Voice) Adhan 🔊!!! Jews use Horns and Christian use Bells 🔔 !!! 7)Gensis 21:17-21 Angel Gabriel find water 💦 well but deleted its name ZamZam as it is 20 meters from Kaba🕋 in Paran desert in Valley of Baca as it is called in Bible & Quran or Maca. God blessed Ismael & promised him fruitful & Great Nation!!! Who is Great Nation other than Muslims!!! Quran say footprint 👣 of Abraham next to Kaba🕋 is Clear Evidences. 8)Psalm 84:6 As they pass through the Valley of Baca as mentioned in Quran is Macca. In order to forge it they translate Baca the noun with capital to Valley of Weeping in Jordan!!! But where is the water well 💦 in Genesis 17:17-21!!! They deleted the name of the Holy well Zam Zam as it is 20 meters from Kaba🕋!!! It is producing water 💦from (5,000 years) time of Abraham until now and with quality that Professor Emoto from Japan issued 5 Books on the (Miracles of water) and its crystals that is different than any water on earth!! It is Alkaline to kill all germs 🦠 and viruses 🦠!! 9)Isaiah 29:12 Give the Book 📖 to the Unlearnt and told him (Read) and He will say (I am not Learnt). This is the first word and verse of the Holy Quran in cave of Heraa and that was the response of Prophet Mohamed PBUH said (I am not Learnt)!!!! 10)Luke 6:40 Jesus said we as student should learn from our Muslim Teacher 👨🏫 . The word (Mushlam) in Hebrew was deleted in translation from Hebrew to English by fraud!!! 11)Luke 34:36 Jesus said (Shalom Alikum) Peace on You or (Salam Alikm) Islam Greetings. 12)John 14:16 {And I will ask the Father, and he will give you (another) advocate to help you and be with you forever}. Note (another) do you have two Holy Spirit!!! Some translate the word as (Comforter). Since he used to call Belal to raise Call of Prayer (Comfort us with it Belal). He established prayer in his ascension to meet God after 7 Sky and Gabriel could not proceed to the Chair and Throne and his conversation with God we say it in all our prayers Tashahd. However, The original word in Aramaic is (Parkletus) The praised one Ahmed/Mohamed!!! 13)He is also the (Chosen One) مصطفى ومختار. Huios in Aramaic that was translated (Son) instead of (Chosen One) in Acts 3:13!!! Paida (Servant) was also translated (Son) in Acts 3:26!!! 14)Isaiah 21:13 Revelation from the Arab Land. In the forest of Arabia (Madinah) you will lodge!!! Prophet Mohamed will stay in Madinah. In fact 3 Jewish tribes immigrated to Madinah as they knew from this verse the next Prophet will stay there. 15)Isaiah 21:14 Here Son of Ismael Timaa who established Tmeem تميم tribe in Madinah gave him water and bread to Prophet Mohamed who (fled) from swords and bows of Macca pagans. 16)Isaiah 21:15 The immigration of Prophet Mohamed with Abu Bakr escaping from 40 men (drawn swords)⚔️ to kill Prophet Mohamed at his house in Macca and swords and bows 🏹 that followed him during immigration. 17)Isaiah 21:16 God said within one year of immigration in (Badr Battle) the Glory of Kedar (Quraish) Shall fail in front of all tribes as Prophet Mohamed defeated them. 18)Isaiah 21:17 The residue of the number of archers 🏹of the mighty men of Kedar (Quraish) are diminished as God has spoken. Muslims killed in battle of Badr 70 of Quraish mighty leaders and took another 70 as POW and that God sent 5,000 angels to fight with them as they were only 313 (Number of God Messengers & number of initial believers of Mahdy this year) and Quraish were 1,000. This battle was the first victory of the one year Islamic State!!! Many tribes entered Islam after this Battle. 19)Mathew 21:43 {Therefore, I tell you the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits.}. (Great Nation & fruitful Genesis 17:20 & 21:18) Ismael/Muslims. 20) Chronicles 6:32 The foreigner (Prophet Mohamed) who is not from your people Israel, when he comes from far country for Your Great Names (99 names), when they come and pray towards this house (KABA) 🕋 in far country (Saudi/ Macca)!!!
@@sheik74hamid46 I'll refer you to Christian Prince for a discussion. I believe you got what it's take to reason with him.
His name is khuthab
@@rajanbada3138 So why doesn't the Qur'an SAY this? Hahahhahah! Islam has God's name wrong AND Muhammads name wrong!
@@sheik74hamid46 No matter how you try to destroy Jesus, (which your Qur'an confirms) it doesn't CHANGE the fact that ISLAM SUCKS!
Robert Spencer a great teacher 🔥
Dr. Smith, can you please ask Robert Spencer in the upcoming interview if he knows the book "Seeing Islam as Others Saw It: A Survey and Evaluation of Christian, Jewish and Zoroastrian Writings on Early Islam (Gorgias Islamic Studies, Vol. 12)"
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Thank you for all your work to discover the truth. I was decided in Iran to follow Islam. Your work has helped me to find the truth and follow true God.
This was great, thank you.
Great teaching
@PfanderFilms I do believe there is a reasonably strong case for the existence of muhammad as real person. However, it is more likely though that the historical muhammad was very much unlike the man typically described in the traditions. The following is just a quick timeline describing who muhammad was and what may have really happened. 1) Pre 632AD - (Pre islamic doctrine phase) Phase 1 - The transitional development of an arab religion. a) What sort of arabs lived here pre 632 and what kind of arab was muhammad? - A few historians give an account of this:- Roman historians Ammianus and Zosimus. And then we have Eusibius, sozomen & Theodret ( sozomens contemporary), all 3 of whom have a biblical take on the identification of the arabs. Of particular interest to me are sozomen (who explains the development of Judaic practices amongst the arabs) & Theodret (who explains the development of Christian conversions & practices amongst the arabs). So who were muhammad and his companions essentially? - I feel the need to insist that sozomens account best describes them as the Hagarenes or Ishmaelites who were (NOT JEWS but) later felt the need to identify with jewish practices and identified themselves as Saracens. Therefore, muhammad and the core element amongst his followers, were most likely of an abrahamic (originally a jewish like but not actually of the jewish) faith who believed in a messianic message and the belief in the end times. But why do I single out this group and not the christian elements described by Theodret or by say someone like professor peter von sivers? - Well, its the sheer explanatory power of this group. Its explain the following: i) Beliefs: Muslim, like jews believe God is trancendent. Any association of an incarnated human son is blasphemy. ii) Rituals and practices: wudu (washing), fasting, kosher foods, beards and other practices are similar (muchbof which has remained unchanged even today). iii) Contemporary and subsequent association: Note that they were identified as Saracens well before muhammad arrived on the scene and then continued to be identified by the sane name during and after the conquest. Phase 2 - 622AD Arabs declare an independence. Little is known about Muhammad, but he may have been amongst one of the (Judaic) Saracens and may have led or been the leader of a rebellion. 2) Between 632-634 AD (Conquest against a Abrahamic Messianic background):- Muhammad died sometime around this period. He may or may not have been alive during the 634 conquest, but that is not certain. An unnamed prophet (dt 634AD):- The account of Doctrina Jacobi (dated 634AD) states that amongst the conquring Saracens, at the inception of the conquest, was present a prophet (a john the baptist like figure) who was then proclaiming the coming of the Christ. While it doesn't tell us much about this prophet, it does: i) suggest that this prophet was possibly alive (or perceived as such) at the time of this conquest. ii) and is consistent with a jewish/Christian like sect (i.e not the traditional Jewish kind or the typical Chalcedonian Christian one either that had already earlier recognised Jesus as the Messianic Christ) that was significantly representive of this invading group. A named leader Muhammad (the evidence):- While there is little evidence in early documented history linking such a character to a one described within traditional records, there is certainly positive evidence that a person named muhammad was indeed associated as a leader of the conquering arab saracens. Several accounts such as Thomas the Presbyter in 640AD and Bishop Sebeos 660AD and a growing number of inscriptions suggest that the existence of such a person is likely based on historical fact. 2.1) Between 632-685 AD - (Phase 1 - Development of a faith): - No one knows for sure if quranic material is being written down as a single text at this time. Nevertheless, this is definitely a period when the Arab hierarchy colloborate on different ideas and are shared between regional Saracens and non-chalcedonian christian denominations (along with some persian influencea) and these are begining to come together (The Saracen/Judaic aspect of these ideas definitely dominate though). The ideas that are shared by Christian groups of the period are better described here: m.kzhead.info/sun/acOYc5uPrGqniWw/bejne.html/ Correspondence letters between Leo III & Umar's II sheds light on external perceptions on the development of the new religion: An early 8th century correspondence between Umar II & Leo III has leo III suggesting, as part of his polemic statement to Umar II, that during the early days of the arab conquest it was Umar(the rashidun), Salman the persian and Ali (the rashidun) who had composed the book (or compilition works) for the new faith despite rumours going around that it was suposedly God sent. As an external but nevertheless early source, it does present an relatively early understanding of foreign elements external to the arabs, as well as an explanation suggesting that some early proponents of the faith, had perhaps earlier conspired to develop a new religion. 3) Post 685 AD - (Phase 2 - Further religious editing, standardisation of the belief and religious & political consolodation and establishment of religious empire): - A huge redefinition of past theology and consolodation of power, standardisation of the religious school of thought and a distinction between religious groups. No more ecumenism, no more believers movement. Its muslims and non muslims now. During the 690's, Zubayr (the competitor caliph who begins the muhammad revival movement) is taken out and his cause and his followers are taken up Abd al Malik (the very person in competition who has him killed). Following that the dome of the rock is built as a political statement and soon after that the Meccan masjid al haram is also built in 697 AD (we have a rock inscription to this effect. Do note that the inscription says "BUILT" and not "REBUILT". www.islamic-awareness.org/history/islam/inscriptions/haram1 Also despite the new construction, as per Jacob of Edessa's account in 708AD as well as Dan Gibsons recent works, the Hagarenes still continued praying in the direction of their old qibla, even well after the building of this new Meccan kaaba). At least Two More 8th Century sources address developments from this post 685 AD period: i) The first again is the early 8th century correspondence between Umar II & Leo III that has leo III suggesting that it is Hajjaj who had edited, destroyed, and standardised texts/works that were already in existence prior to these edits and then had these distributed his areas of influence. He (Leo) also stated that, despite this destruction, the works of Hajjaj did not manage to make all the works of his predecessors go away and that, amongst the remaining distributed works of Hajjaj, there still prevailed some of the works of Ali (the rashidun) that were not destroyed. ii) The second source for this period is John of Damascus (730 AD). He lays down a detailed form of Polemics against this newly repackaged, once again re-edited religion. But his polemics are not as important as what might be concluded from them, namely, that by around 730 AD: a) The structure of this belief system and related texts were substantially recognisable, compared with that which exists in the Quran today. b) Despite this degree of recognisability, at this point the people of this belief are still identified as Saracens/Hagarines/Ishmaelites and not Muslims. Also there appears to be no clear knowledge of the name of the religious text of the Saracens, despite (John) being reasonably familiar with its related text. c) And finally, despite the religious text of this saracens having been substantually complete and recognisable by 730 AD, it is likely that it was still nevertheless incomplete as a matter of fact at this point. For one, John's mention of text and detailed story of the "she-camel", a chapter not mentioned in the Quran today (except by mere reference) suggests that there were further edits yet to come. Furthermore, this seems more likely when one considers that the people of this religion were yet to be clearly identified as Muslims, their book still awaited its name as the Quran (or at the very least, the name was not quite as popular/ widely accepted or known yet) and the Qibla was yet to be universally redirected towards the direction of the Meccan Kaaba.
A lot of wasted words about a fairy tale of muhammad
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Jay Smith, Robert Spencer, David Wood, Sam Shamoun, Apostate Proohet, Hatun. I am grateful to you all for helping me learn and understand more about debating or speaking with Muslims.
i think Robert have some good points
You are both very clever and logical. I just wish you applied the same logic and methodology to christianity itself that exactly the same problems (if not worse) than Islam.
I watch a lot of Dr Jay and Dan video...I really a learnt a lot.
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