Gods of Warhammer - The Old Gods

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Ulric, Taal, Rhya, Manann and Morr. The Big 5. Kinda.
0:00 - Intro
1:27 - Brilliant Sponsorship
3:28 - Ulric
10:02 - Taal and Rhya
15:22 - Manann
18:43 - Morr
21:55 - The Great Catastrohpe
26:12 - Conclusion
27:41 - Impregnate
Music:
FTL: Faster Than Light - Space Cruise
Age of Mythology: Eat Your Potatoes, Flavor Cats, Slaysenflite, Hoping for Real Betterness, The Ballad of Ace Lebaron, In A Pile of its Own Good, Chocolate Potatoes
Age of Empires II - Track 5

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    @pancreasnowork9939@pancreasnowork993929 күн бұрын
    • Here's an idea. You get iseikai in warhammer fantasy. However you are malekith.

      @jonathanathor117@jonathanathor11729 күн бұрын
    • Ulric best! Middenland best!

      @zachofthebattery2864@zachofthebattery286429 күн бұрын
    • Where's Myrmidia?

      @DogseatDogs@DogseatDogs29 күн бұрын
    • Morr mightve come back in the form of Morrda in AOS, what do you think of that?

      @raptorimperium5757@raptorimperium575729 күн бұрын
    • Tf you mean he'll end up pregnant?

      @helloimthegrowthsman6382@helloimthegrowthsman638229 күн бұрын
  • “It’s like the flame of Asyruan, but wolfier” lore has officially peaked

    @xekon14@xekon1429 күн бұрын
    • Oh no, the flame of Asuryan got space wolf'd

      @d.n5287@d.n528729 күн бұрын
  • Virgin emperor: even though the galaxy is on fire everything is going just as planned vs chad ulric: apply hammer to chaos skull

    @captaintitus4637@captaintitus463729 күн бұрын
    • be honest with yourself the chaddest of all the gods is the maw...

      @rexross4847@rexross484729 күн бұрын
    • Well acthually Ulric's holy weapon is an axe, Bliztbeil, and not a hammer ☝️🤓

      @leohoffren5078@leohoffren507829 күн бұрын
    • @@rexross4847forget fight, just eat

      @The_fallen_hero@The_fallen_hero29 күн бұрын
    • The Emperor and Malcador: literally admit their plan failed and they need to change a lot before dying with low chance of success. Average fans: Hehe emperor still claims all according to keikaku.

      @DogseatDogs@DogseatDogs29 күн бұрын
    • ​@@leohoffren5078What did you expect from people who only learn lore through memes.

      @DogseatDogs@DogseatDogs29 күн бұрын
  • I like to imagine that in Age of Sigmar, Ulric's retired in Azyr and sits around like a grandfather, either shit-talking Sigmar for not getting out there and fighting Chaos hand-to-hand like a real warrior or screaming "THAT'S MY BOY" whenever Sigmar does anything good.

    @Brainflayer@Brainflayer29 күн бұрын
    • I like this too, but it would seem far more likely that Ulric just decided to not care about the world after the endtimes (writers didn't care about him)

      @darkyuraptor3315@darkyuraptor331529 күн бұрын
  • You'll never convince me that Morr isn't real. I gave up Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, but you're not taking Morr from me.

    @RSBurgener@RSBurgener29 күн бұрын
    • What Morr can be taken from you? I'll leave now...

      @BelligerentPenguin@BelligerentPenguin29 күн бұрын
    • 😄...what indeed? My fellow disciple said famously in 1981 "we've nothing left but faith". I think that's because back then, just like now, price increases have taken everything else.

      @RSBurgener@RSBurgener29 күн бұрын
    • Morr is my favourite warhammer god. Yeah he's a bit dour and serious but he's just a good guy. I love him. Plus his knights have gorgeous armour.

      @aLukepop@aLukepop28 күн бұрын
    • Have you ever seen any undead irl? No? That's how you know Morr is real

      @nedreow3722@nedreow372226 күн бұрын
    • That's the spirit of religion!

      @Bob-bs9ok@Bob-bs9ok21 күн бұрын
  • Hey Morr's temples are always finely decorated. Its just that all the decorations are always made of skulls

    @tomwarren5580@tomwarren558029 күн бұрын
    • I wonder if they made him a throne, a particularly skullly throne.

      @wetzel4806@wetzel480629 күн бұрын
    • Don't be like that. What about wreaths, roses and crows?

      @JagdWehrwolf@JagdWehrwolf29 күн бұрын
    • So what you’re saying is that they’re not decorated by the standards of Warhammer Fantasy?

      @banzaiperson@banzaiperson29 күн бұрын
  • None of these gods can hope to compare with the one true god, Boingob.

    @tomwarren5580@tomwarren558029 күн бұрын
    • such is the power of Boinggob

      @Ranoveramotherin2007@Ranoveramotherin200729 күн бұрын
    • THE ONLY TRUE GOD IS THE MAW!!!!!!!!

      @rexross4847@rexross484729 күн бұрын
    • Nuffle....

      @user-jd1vs9tc6z@user-jd1vs9tc6z29 күн бұрын
    • A true acolyte I see

      @incomingbackup7264@incomingbackup726429 күн бұрын
    • Heretic! Bow to the one true god, Banjo!

      @shanehudson3995@shanehudson399529 күн бұрын
  • Humans be like "WE HAVE OUR OWN GODS!!!" and then have some of their oldest be called "Ishernos" This post was made by the Elven cult of Isha and Kurnous.

    @nyxnox2135@nyxnox213529 күн бұрын
    • I'll have you know that Ishea and Karnos are totally distinct from Isha and Kurnous!

      @delta9915@delta991529 күн бұрын
    • Ironically enough, the real life the elves didn't have their own pantheon until a while after 40k was created. So the elves actually copied the humans.

      @Artemisarrowzz@Artemisarrowzz29 күн бұрын
    • Silly landlubbers, the only real god you need to care about it Ma*coughcough*an

      @MarkD5678@MarkD567829 күн бұрын
    • The issue being shallya is the closest human God to Isha She's the daughter of morr

      @spartanx9293@spartanx929329 күн бұрын
    • isn't that cult in the Forest of Athel Lauren... When did y'all get Wi-Fi? Edit: please tell me that's not why you're so protective of the way stones

      @robrib2682@robrib268229 күн бұрын
  • Morr is so cool. Morrslieb is called that because Morr is said to have destroyed one of the Chaos gates and thus created the dark moon, saving the world in the process.

    @luigisuper4143@luigisuper414329 күн бұрын
    • Good/Neutral gods of death are always more interesting than evil ones (though Nagash isn’t boring either)

      @letendreelliott8778@letendreelliott877829 күн бұрын
    • Morr has a chivalric army in his honor, they patrol the eastern empire krumping undead left right and center.

      @josecoronadonieto6911@josecoronadonieto691129 күн бұрын
    • ​@@josecoronadonieto6911He has multiple knightly orders, like the Black Guard, Knights of the Raven and Knights of the Black Rose.

      @luigisuper4143@luigisuper414329 күн бұрын
    • @@letendreelliott8778he has several “Good” aspects in AOS. Bal-Nagash, the Black Child, is one of them. He’s a child formed of black mist who visits mothers and children on their deathbeds to grant them comfort before their passings. We meet him in soul wars when Nagash drops in on him to check his progress, and finds that he’s currently comforting an expectant mother who just gave birth, but is dying of the plague alongside her child. I choose to believe that Bal-Nagash, as the compassionate part of Nagash, granted the woman a few more precious seconds of life to hold her baby for the first, and last, time. You’d expect something like that from Sigmar, or Allarielle, but nah. Nagash is the one who holds the hand of the trembling elder as he draws his final breath, the one who embraces the weeping mother as the body of her child is laid to rest, the one who points the way to peace while other gods focus simply on their living acolytes.

      @JamesTAdams@JamesTAdams29 күн бұрын
    • ​@@JamesTAdamswait Nagash has that?

      @ronanchristiana.belleza9270@ronanchristiana.belleza927028 күн бұрын
  • I would give praise to Mor, but I would never do something so heretical to risk angering my one true God, Nagash.

    @atlantiswolf@atlantiswolf29 күн бұрын
    • All things die. The flesh rots, bone decays. Metal rusts, stone erodes. Gods can be eaten and shattered.

      @wynnnnnnn5227@wynnnnnnn522729 күн бұрын
    • Such is the Power of Nagash

      @Kalnafein@Kalnafein27 күн бұрын
    • @@Kalnafein The power to have Mortal Followers outside of his universe.

      @atlantiswolf@atlantiswolf27 күн бұрын
    • @@wynnnnnnn5227 Sigma Necron Grindset

      @diamondhamster4320@diamondhamster432027 күн бұрын
  • I can just imagine that if Ulric and the other Old Gods did meet Grimnir while fighting daemons, it was probably by complete accident after Grimnir slayer leaped into a Bloodthirster right next to them and they just had a momentary pause to do the confused blinking gif at each other.

    @Rukdug@Rukdug29 күн бұрын
  • Don't doubt yourself, Big Chungus dejectedly telling you times are tough is peak comedy.

    @smoochiemcgoo2218@smoochiemcgoo221829 күн бұрын
  • Funnly enough there is a space wolves character called ulric the slayer He's like the reclusiarch

    @drigoleus1055@drigoleus105529 күн бұрын
    • Ulric is a pretty common Old German/Scandinavian name.

      @windwind3170@windwind317029 күн бұрын
  • Lucky you Pancreas, we are getting a bit more Morr thanks to Elspeth.

    @Noblesix84@Noblesix8429 күн бұрын
  • Fun fact, in the first Fantasy Role-playing rulebook, Khaine was a human God and brother of Morr

    @marrvynswillames4975@marrvynswillames497529 күн бұрын
    • what

      @Xalerdane@XalerdaneКүн бұрын
  • Neat fact: in the Empire there’s some humans who worship Khaine. They do so mainly as assassins and they’re basically the Warhammer version of the Dark Brotherhood.

    @dropkickpiper3204@dropkickpiper320429 күн бұрын
    • They do it under the same name or they have their own version like in Elder Scrolls? With the shared gods between the races having their own names and subtle and not so subtle differences depending of the POV of each race.

      @g.sergiusfidenas6650@g.sergiusfidenas665029 күн бұрын
    • @@g.sergiusfidenas6650 There are some cases where the humans worship elf-like gods under different names. Mannan->Mathlann, Rhya->Isha, etc. but in Khaine’s case it’s the actual elven god. Now they do have some small differences in perception of him, but on the fundamental level it’s the same god.

      @dropkickpiper3204@dropkickpiper320428 күн бұрын
    • ​@@dropkickpiper3204 More like Rhya + Shallya = Isha, but you are correct.

      @MelkorTolkien@MelkorTolkien24 күн бұрын
  • GW never capitalizing on the opportunity to have Werewolf zealots within the empire’s territory is criminal.

    @nerdyvids1@nerdyvids129 күн бұрын
    • powerwolf

      @caseyjasey4446@caseyjasey444629 күн бұрын
    • Flagellants who think they’re going to turn into wolves when they die. They take the carrion after battle being eaten by wolves as them reincarnating.

      @alonsogutierrez9500@alonsogutierrez950020 күн бұрын
  • On the note of The Doom of Kavzar, in an AoS book, Skaven Battletome I think, the Tower of Kavzar is named dropped as where the Council of Thirteen meet.

    @riokollivier@riokollivier29 күн бұрын
    • It's also referenced in one of Thanquol's books where he talks about rumors that the great tower at the hearth of Skavenblight was actually made by humans and dwarfs, a rumor mostly considered heresy and slander, but Thanquol can see traces of their architecture in what little remains of it.

      @axios4702@axios470229 күн бұрын
    • After watching the video about narrating skaven lore and The Doom of Kavzar, and seeing Skavenblight reeeeeallyup close in TW:WH 2 and 3, knowing that GW gives the last okay… the fact that the model of the Skaven capital had a screaming bell at the top of a very tall tower, alongside it’s a very dark swamp, made me head cannon that Skavenblight was Kavzar.

      @minibotas9496@minibotas949629 күн бұрын
    • ​@@minibotas9496I thought that just was the text. No need to head canon it.

      @ethanfox8979@ethanfox897929 күн бұрын
  • I'd never ever feel bored whenever the gods in Warhammer fantasy were mentioned, in fact it was not as overwhelmed as 40k (cough *imperium, eldar and chaos* cough). because the gods in fantasy had their own jobs/specialty and had their own ways to interact.

    @thegreatbookofgrudges6953@thegreatbookofgrudges695329 күн бұрын
    • It's because the gods in Fantasy are still alive, in 40k you got Chaos and Emperor, all other gods are inactive, shattered or dead

      @MrManueldx@MrManueldx29 күн бұрын
    • ​​@@MrManueldxalso the fact that due to the vast majority of religion is made of just bland factions(except Orks because you know they have the raddest headcanon for their gods and the necrons) Take the fact Big E was a dumbass and killed the competition for the chaos gods so they could simply tell you to join instead of giving a very good contract-deal detailing why and what you get worshipping them

      @ZeroFormLak@ZeroFormLak29 күн бұрын
    • @@ZeroFormLak I must disagree. The Guard can include just about every culture, forces and mixtures in human history and the Admech with their crazy techno aesthetics. Those are rad. Same can be said for Lost and Damned (traitor guard, chaos cults, beastmen, warrior cultures like Blood Pact) and Dark Mechanicum. Necromunda. Exodites. Kill Teams. The sad part is that Space Marines took much of the attention away. Who were the competition against Chaos btw? The Eldar Empire ruined their own gods. So many worlds are infested with Chaos cults. Are there any true gods giving miracles during the 30k that were not Chaos Gods? And the Interex? They had to fight 100 years just to bring the Kinebrachs in and prohibit them against military service.

      @DogseatDogs@DogseatDogs28 күн бұрын
    • @@DogseatDogs we were robbed

      @ZeroFormLak@ZeroFormLak28 күн бұрын
    • @@ZeroFormLak That's the sad fact. GW executed WHF with End Times then revived it for profits. Kill Team had two teams for Votann and those are their latest developments. Necromunda gets a bad game.

      @DogseatDogs@DogseatDogs28 күн бұрын
  • That end credit joke flash-banged me harder than PancreasYouHadOneJob would flash/bang Teclis.

    @zacharyhansen9103@zacharyhansen910329 күн бұрын
  • Ulric! Ursun! Sigmar! These three alone are worthy.

    @thequietman5934@thequietman593429 күн бұрын
    • all hail bear god

      @Star_dragon8@Star_dragon829 күн бұрын
    • Welp, you might have been put in a book of grudges of multiple gods my dear.

      @slaaneshshewhothirst9136@slaaneshshewhothirst913629 күн бұрын
    • You forgot Myrmidia and Morr. Typical.

      @DogseatDogs@DogseatDogs29 күн бұрын
    • @@DogseatDogs I didn't forget. lol

      @thequietman5934@thequietman593429 күн бұрын
    • Ursun literally got kidnapped by Be'lakor, the guy who has been taking L's since the formation of the Great Vortex.

      @WarMonger_the-One-and-Only@WarMonger_the-One-and-Only29 күн бұрын
  • It's funny that despite the fact Ulric's been around since the literal birth of Warhammer lore in 3e, the only time we got the Warrior Priest of Ulric as a Hero unit in the Empire Army was in 6e - first in White Dwarf in 2006, then in the Storm of Chaos book. I mean, okay, it wasn't the best Hero; it was literally the original 6e Warrior Priest of Sigmar with the prayers swapped out for prayers that can be used to "grant a unit Immune to Psychology", "grant a unit +d3 inches when charging", "do a S4 hit to all enemies in base contact with the priest" and "inflict a -1 to hit debuff on an enemy unit", which are of somewhat questionable utility compared to the Sigmarite priest's prayers, but they could have tried giving them some better prayers in 7e and 8e!

    @MrNetWraith@MrNetWraith29 күн бұрын
  • I will quote kirk for 40K: "what does god need with a starship?"

    @barrybend7189@barrybend718929 күн бұрын
  • Elves, Lizardmen and Tomb Kings when some Reiklander calls one of their “gods” old:

    @Le-cp9tr@Le-cp9tr29 күн бұрын
  • I always hold Morr close to my hearth. My very first character in Warhammer Fantasy RPG was his acolyte. His name was Gaori from one of characters form anime Slayers. I was a wierd kid. But now I'm Myrmidia's devouted simp.

    @Gilannun12@Gilannun1229 күн бұрын
  • The humans nature gods literally being just the elf ones is so fucking funny

    @iainhansen1047@iainhansen104729 күн бұрын
    • Look, If there is already a pantheon of perfectly serviceable gods, why not use some of them in your own?

      @TheCoCAmbassador@TheCoCAmbassador29 күн бұрын
    • ​@@TheCoCAmbassadorEveryone in the general vicinity of the Mediteranian.

      @Aceshot-uu7yx@Aceshot-uu7yx29 күн бұрын
    • "Hey isha, why are we getting worshiped by humans?" "Idk man"

      @thesittingacheroraptor7565@thesittingacheroraptor756529 күн бұрын
    • ​@@thesittingacheroraptor7565other elven god: just roll with it man the more the merrier

      @ronanchristiana.belleza9270@ronanchristiana.belleza927028 күн бұрын
    • Look. Do I have to tell y'all to go read the ACOUP blog posts on ancient religion? (Not a 'read a book' putdown, either; they're written by a fantasy enjoying history PhD and can serve as very good primers for How To Magic In Historically-Inspired Fantasy. More people should read 'em, is what I'm saying.) Extended aside notwithstanding, as I understand it a certain degree of syncretism and cultural diffusion of pantheons is expected for cultures living in close proximity for extended periods.

      @vdate@vdate26 күн бұрын
  • There’s a blink and you’ll miss it reference to Morr in AoS. However, it’s as an aspect of Nagash called Nagash-Morr. So either Morr got eaten during the End Times as previously stated, or he actually made it to the Mortal Realms only to fall when Nagash was being himself… again. Either way, Nagash-Morr is described as studious, dutiful, and even somewhat fair as he catalogues and protects the dead. Which is probably the only time anyone in either setting said anything remotely nice about Nagash in any way, shape, or form. The reason I bring all this up is to prove what a cool guy Morr is/was. He was so level headed that he made even a relentless d-bag like Nagash chill the f out, even if only partially.

    @H240909@H24090929 күн бұрын
    • Here’s hoping Sigmar can make Nagash puke him back up.

      @Xalerdane@XalerdaneКүн бұрын
  • Pancreas upload! Time to drop what I’m doing to watch it.

    @LordFargothUr@LordFargothUr29 күн бұрын
  • Pancreas video on my day off? Such is the power of Nagash

    @danielbellah3443@danielbellah344329 күн бұрын
  • The Cult of Taal did kick off the time of three emperors. And this may be my massive Taal Bias showing, but if GW pulled out Ottila and gave her a a bunch of Griffons I bet that she could eclipse Daenarys easily.

    @semi-useful5178@semi-useful517829 күн бұрын
    • When I play Geheimnisnacht CK2 they always form a Nurgle Cult in Talabheim. WHY?

      @HeinrichMuller-mv6hn@HeinrichMuller-mv6hn19 күн бұрын
    • @@HeinrichMuller-mv6hn Really shouldn't be there. Talabheim is unironically where Taal actually lives.

      @semi-useful5178@semi-useful517819 күн бұрын
    • @@semi-useful5178 I know. But they somehow turned to Nurgle. Only them. Openly. The rest of Tabacleland was conquered by Vlad. It is weird I know.

      @HeinrichMuller-mv6hn@HeinrichMuller-mv6hn19 күн бұрын
    • @@HeinrichMuller-mv6hn Indeed

      @semi-useful5178@semi-useful517819 күн бұрын
  • I'm not scum, i wasn't even thinking about poison ivy until you said so. Now i cant stop seeing it. WHYYYYY

    @luciustheeternal3029@luciustheeternal302929 күн бұрын
  • It's insane how night and day gods are in Fantasy compared to 40K. Like, Fantasy asctually has rich lore, variety and complexity when it comes to it's deities and their followers, meanwhile 40K despite it's larger scale has legit next to nothing in comparison. Like, even the main 4 Chaos Gods have been stripped of much of their complexity and other attributes/charecterization when compared to their Fantasy counterparts (and the less it's told about the Eldar pantheon the better).

    @_NIKOS9_NIKOS@_NIKOS9_NIKOS29 күн бұрын
    • Isssue with 40k being a galaxy scale setting unfortunately

      @foxnut13@foxnut1329 күн бұрын
    • And guess which one sells better?

      @DogseatDogs@DogseatDogs29 күн бұрын
    • ​@@DogseatDogs Space Marines?

      @bisayafascist5725@bisayafascist572529 күн бұрын
    • ​@@DogseatDogsthis isn't a sales comparison

      @Dyno2999@Dyno299929 күн бұрын
    • @@Dyno2999 Is it? You were all boasting about how WHF has so much more variety. How it is so much better. But in the end, which is known more? 40k or Fantasy? Because there is this thing called Kill Team. And it is not without its own variety. There are these called 40k RPGs and they are not without rich lore.

      @DogseatDogs@DogseatDogs29 күн бұрын
  • No Ancestor gods? These other gods ruined godland, you've just made an enemy for life.

    @leeroyjenkins6103@leeroyjenkins610329 күн бұрын
  • the children of Ulric also appear in the black plague trilogy in which they are depicted as cursed beings and are said to be enemies of the ulrician beliefs

    @qoeiennl6762@qoeiennl676229 күн бұрын
  • "He's lucky he never met me or else he'd end up pregnant." Damn Pancreas, didn't know you liked him in THAT way

    @generalgrievous4951@generalgrievous495129 күн бұрын
    • Hot elf twink.....I mean.....whats not to like?

      @justinwainwright5069@justinwainwright506916 күн бұрын
  • that last line hit me like a ton of bricks but you know what, he's not wrong

    @adityaindla7275@adityaindla727529 күн бұрын
  • I love Morr. In a lot of fiction, death gods are often depicted as malevolent entities, and Morr is just a neutral entity. Any work that shows Death or the personification of as neutral, or even benevolent and kind are great in my opinion, and I love the whole "guarding the dead" thing Morr's priests do.

    @BelligerentPenguin@BelligerentPenguin29 күн бұрын
  • Pancreas, I want more ogre propaganda. The maw demands it

    @JacksonBradbury-qh6qv@JacksonBradbury-qh6qv29 күн бұрын
  • that teclussy knowledge at the end really fucked me up, thanks

    @3005desu@3005desu29 күн бұрын
  • I like the old gods like Taal and Morr instead of all gods being chaos gods, emp or xenos gods I like how fantasy has whole pantheons for almost every faction allows me to scream MORRS SYCTHE CLAIMS YOU or SUFFER ULRICS WARTH BEAST

    @blakeoarmboy@blakeoarmboy29 күн бұрын
  • current status of the old world gods so far Empire gods Ulric-->dead Taal-->Still worship in the realm of ghur Rhya-->Unknown but if Taal still worship then i'm pretty sure she still around Morr--> Is back and still around by the new name Morrda Shallya-->Still stuck in Nurgle mansion as fantasy/AOS isha Myrmida-->Still around worshiped by Hysh human & even some Stormcast (new name Mirmdh) Mannan-->if he Mathlann then he got devoured by slaanesh Verna-->unknown Ranald-->Still worship in Shyish Kislev gods Ursen--->Unknown depending what the TTW canon route but is still remember and a city call Ursengrod in ghur Dwarf Griminir-->Shatter into various Grungi-->around drinking bugman with Sigmar and forging weapons and armor for him Valaya-->went from dead to MIA Gazul--> eaten by Nagash but shut the gates to the dwarven afterlife before nagash got in Elves Isha--> Reincarnated to Alarielle Kurnous-->Reincarnated to Kurnoth Khaine-->shatter to only a iron heart in Morathi possession Lileath/Lady of the lake-->dead Bunch of the others like Asuryan, Morai-heg, Loec/Cegorach ect was devoured by slaanesh but as of recently shards has escape She who Thirst stomach and is currently seeking host to reincarnate ogres Great Maw-->sort worship as it now an aspect of Gorkamorka call the Gulping god but the original worship of the real maw is still around but is considered heretical by the other Mawtribes Fire Mouth--->dead? like it's a volcano there nothing really that special it flooded the ogre kingdom in the ET

    @michaelsantamaria5295@michaelsantamaria529529 күн бұрын
    • What about Hashut?

      @brandonlyon730@brandonlyon73029 күн бұрын
    • @@brandonlyon730 Is definitely around. infact we got like trusted sources that Chaos Dwarfs will be coming to AOS 4 edition at some point as of Hashut mention so far AOS being continuing that tradition of burying the lead of his true nature as he describe sometimes as a minor chaos god, sometimes a demon god to evil dwarf god to even a demon prince. There even some lore about how the Fyreslayer claim that one of their sacred grimnir flames was stolen and infused into Hashut and his hellish forges

      @michaelsantamaria5295@michaelsantamaria529529 күн бұрын
    • @@michaelsantamaria5295any cathay gods?

      @chozer1@chozer129 күн бұрын
    • @@chozer1 Cathay Dragons as of yet nothing due being created for TTW3 so they're like very new to the lore and we still haven't lear what exactly the dragon emperor "master plan against chaos" is about maybe they make it over but as of yet they still haven't made it to tabletop in the old world

      @michaelsantamaria5295@michaelsantamaria529529 күн бұрын
    • @@chozer1 The Celestial Dragon Emperor was apparently only really okay with his human subjects venerating (but not worshipping) their ancestors and not worhsipping him and his wife or anything else, so there technically aren't really Cathayan gods as a result. Though Yuan Bo also apparently still wrote some laws involving praying to the Celestial Dragon Emperor and the Moon Empress, so they might have become gods eventually? Either way, neither of them have shown up in AoS since essentially all of modern Cathay was created for TTW3 which came out years after AoS started.

      @Rukdug@Rukdug29 күн бұрын
  • That last line basically gave me a concussion. Id say I hope you're proud of yourself, but I know you are... But besides that, love the video. Eagerly await the rest of this mini-series!

    @deeraki@deeraki29 күн бұрын
  • I was playing the beta of the first Vermintide, knowing nothing about Warhammer Fantasy (was firmly a 40k guy), and it was Kruber mentioning Taal that got me onto Lexicanum wiki to see what a "Taal" was, and lo and behold, within a week I was WHFB pilled and writing a fan fiction about a Sewer Jack lmao

    @alexwatts1064@alexwatts106429 күн бұрын
  • I think Pancreas missed a bit of the nuance regarding Rhya. WFRP 4e says many scholars believe her worship is dying because she doesn't have great temples or holy books, and that "Her many cultists do nothing to contradict such talk". The message there isn't that her cult is dying or dead as those scholars believe, it's that she's a VERY popular goddess whose worship is out in the countless villages and farmsteads of the Empire and beyond, not the cities where the especially stuffy scholars who've never seen a peasant before write their theses. She's the goddess of several important spheres, one of them agriculture, and three quarters of the Empire are farmers. Her cult is enormous and very important, even without big temples or holy books, same as it's been for millennia. Three extra little fun facts about Rhya: 1. The Cult of Taal and Rhya as a single organisation only exists in the eastern Empire. Elsewhere, they're two separate cults. She's treated with utmost respect in the south, considered a rustic goddess revered in her place in the west, and her cult is present but more distant in the north, where it's harder to farm. 2. She officially sanctions gay people; one of her strictures is "Never judge whom another loves". Pretty cool of her there. Before the fourth edition of the RPG, there were real life people who thought she'd be homophobic because gay couples can't have kids, and then it turned out to be the opposite, accepting gay people is a core virtue. 3. Taal and Rhya are polyamorous. They're married and love each other very much, though many of Rhya's kids came from other gods.

    @AwsomeO10000@AwsomeO1000029 күн бұрын
    • Taal: “What kind of nut would marry a _fertility goddess_ if he wasn’t fine with sharing?”

      @Xalerdane@XalerdaneКүн бұрын
  • I'm glad he clarified which poison ivy we were talking about.

    @Aettaro@Aettaro29 күн бұрын
  • 14:12 no I laughed pretty good at that . The bunny standing up hahaha.

    @jaknova1@jaknova129 күн бұрын
  • Luckily for us Morr lovers, he's one of the gods who are still present in age of sigmar! Morrda is a god of death worshipped by a big city of the mortal realms who's priests do rites that prevent corpses from being raised by necromancy. Sounds familiar?

    @MrMickio1@MrMickio129 күн бұрын
  • Okay Pancreas, I will admit it. Your opinion on Teclis is very relatable, you have good taste in twinks

    @Never_heart@Never_heart29 күн бұрын
    • it killed me when i saw that end

      @martinsimington@martinsimington29 күн бұрын
    • Shout out to twinks that doom their worlds to apocalypse, gotta be one of my favorite genders

      @lgr9793@lgr979329 күн бұрын
  • Fun fact - Morr is strongly implied to still be "alive" in AoS, as there's a Free City in Shyish that are described as worshipping a benevolent death god called "Morrda" that looks like a raven and helps ensure his followers pass on peacefully & aren't captured/controlled by Nagash's sorcery. In general, I'm hoping more gods - both original (like the King of Cats or whatever his name is) and from Fantasy - start to appear in AoS. I also like from an anthropological perspective, so many of the various Fantasy gods are implied to be the same across different pantheons, just under different names (i.e., Mathlann, the Elven god of the sea, and Manann, the Empire's god of the sea, are all but spelled out to be the same person), as it reminds me of how many different pantheons share a "common ancestor" in the proto-Indo-European pantheon. It's a great bit of worldbuilding _and_ clever writing on behalf of Games Workshop's writers. Great video as always, man! Can't wait for you to do a video on Ursun!

    @franzsanders9573@franzsanders957319 күн бұрын
  • I never thought I'd here someone say that the brain will shrivel and die if you don't do math. WE FINALLY HAVE SOME ACCURATE FACTS!

    @samwebb2829@samwebb282929 күн бұрын
  • warhammer fantasy just gives me ankh mopork vibes with how it does gods, you dream it up, now there is a god of a burglars guild

    @bencurran3204@bencurran320429 күн бұрын
  • Kind of a spoiler if you're looking to read the Back Plague books, but one of the Children of Ulric was a vital companion and (potentially a lover) for Mandred Skaven Slayer during the Skaven wars. They do show up in other places, but the cult of Ulric really doesn't like to admit they exist and have Ulrics favor.

    @Woooinion@Woooinion29 күн бұрын
  • The fact that Taal and Rhya where once called “Ishernos” just flat out confirms that all the non-chaos gods outside of Sigmar, the ancestor gods, and maybe Ulric are just the elf gods with different names

    @zachm5485@zachm548529 күн бұрын
    • Hey, shut up. From a follower of Morr/Ashurnos/Asuryan.

      @Aceshot-uu7yx@Aceshot-uu7yx29 күн бұрын
  • Well I am super excited to hear this is a series. Cannot wait to see how you cover the Maw

    @readingking1421@readingking142128 күн бұрын
  • Honestly I feel like the C’tan are kind of above gods due to them being a manifestation of a concept and their destruction can cause huge ripple effect that can harm the universe but I could be wrong.🐱

    @topcat59@topcat5929 күн бұрын
    • So what did destroying Llandu’gor do other then creating a plague for some unfortunate Necron’s?

      @brandonlyon730@brandonlyon73029 күн бұрын
    • @@brandonlyon730 sadly it has never been elaborated on what was the consequences of his death which is a shame.🐱

      @topcat59@topcat5929 күн бұрын
  • This is, honestly, probably the most cursed ending of the video so far. I admire you, Pancreas.

    @seeinred@seeinred28 күн бұрын
  • That's why 40K is just as fantasy as AOS and TOW. There is magic all around.

    @CLAREROMVoid@CLAREROMVoid29 күн бұрын
  • Damn 480 views in 3 minutes? bro might go big one day

    @bpouelas@bpouelas29 күн бұрын
  • Ha, jokes on you! I actually like listening to you explain warhammer fantasy lore

    @MatoVuc@MatoVuc29 күн бұрын
  • Nice to see something different from Warhammer discourse that isn’t about whining about the Custodes.

    @brandonlyon730@brandonlyon73029 күн бұрын
  • Welcome to Estalia gentlemen. I will not lie, the chances of your survival are small. Some may even turn against your friends as living corpses, but you have my word that I will use my arcane gifts to ensure your bodies are given unto Morr's Garden. This is the greatest reward, more than even gold, for the fate of your soul is an eternal concern!

    @killharry@killharry29 күн бұрын
    • SUPREME VICTORY!

      @Eiskralle1@Eiskralle129 күн бұрын
    • Geltman is my favorite ❤

      @ManDuderGuy@ManDuderGuy26 күн бұрын
  • TFW 40k is most likely to introduce another Space God plastic miniature before we ever get Sigmar mini

    @MellowBun8@MellowBun829 күн бұрын
  • The relationship between Ulric and Sigmar reminds me a bit of the relationship ship between Ra and Osiris/Horus where Ra was the first king of the gods but he retired to let the new kid on the block take over

    @Phantom-38@Phantom-3828 күн бұрын
  • Ulric was worthy of worship by Sigmar, so he's good enough for me too. Though the Dawi and Asur have mighty pantheons as well (and the Dawi are the best) But Lileath is the greatest troll of any universe. True queen shit, especially since Bretonnia sucks. But any God that stands against the big 4 are good in my book, even if their methods suck

    @Arbiterjim@Arbiterjim29 күн бұрын
  • Love that you putting a spotlight on the religions of warhammer.

    @isaacatkinson1882@isaacatkinson188229 күн бұрын
  • i kinda like how fantasy has actual gods to worship compared to 40k. it gives more credence to the idea that the warp manifests both good and bad parts of sentient thought, with all these gods having a good and bad side to them, and of course chaos being the most extreme example of this. it makes more sense for chaos gods to exist when gods of positive emotions exist as well. in 40k i'm just always thinking "where are the chaos gods of positive emotion"

    @sovietunion7643@sovietunion764329 күн бұрын
  • Love these long lore vids

    @Lorddacenshadowind@Lorddacenshadowind28 күн бұрын
  • happy to see more gods soon. sounds like a good series.

    @nicowagner8655@nicowagner865528 күн бұрын
  • This is why I converted from Warhammer 40k to Fantasy

    @thegreatcollector4548@thegreatcollector454829 күн бұрын
    • Same

      @KingInBlack69@KingInBlack6929 күн бұрын
  • That last line was very relatable. Perhaps the most.

    @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV26 күн бұрын
  • 19:20 a Warhammer Fantasy calendar video would be interesting, so we can learn more about what shit like Geheimnisnacht is. Sounds like an annual event. I'm interested.

    @dividewalker5673@dividewalker567329 күн бұрын
  • Fantasy werewolfs are really metal. Literally tearing its way out from their human form into their wolf form wearing the tatters of their human skin.

    @Lunarice98@Lunarice9829 күн бұрын
  • Ray, when a 20 foot tall chaos entity asks if it's a god: you say YES!

    @TVs_Brent@TVs_Brent29 күн бұрын
  • It's funny how in Warhammer fantasy role play 2ed you can play as pries of Manann, and due to his changing personality, every time you break one of his commandments, you just roll the dice for new ones. You can choose out of like 11 commandments and the Manann just goes like "yea i dont care you swear on sea now, but i dare you not to release this fish".

    @dneeht374@dneeht37429 күн бұрын
  • Always love to see TOW content!

    @Jleot@Jleot29 күн бұрын
  • Great video, I would love to have more old world/fantasy lore 😊

    @Dylanface8791@Dylanface879129 күн бұрын
  • That end part though. "I have depicted my armor as the soy wojak and myself as the chad, therefore I am the victor."

    @Beriorn@Beriorn29 күн бұрын
  • To be honest, I only follow this channel to hear about Warhammer fantasy lore like this, not that 40k thing you all seem to adore

    @strangergelt5182@strangergelt518233 минут бұрын
  • If Teclis could survive an adventure with Gotrek, he could probably avoid having your kid(s).

    @jtr7377@jtr737729 күн бұрын
  • Very informative, thanks!

    @matthewniamat90@matthewniamat9029 күн бұрын
  • Missed opportunity to play a bass-boosted version of Markus Kruber's *BY TAAL! FIGHT! KILL! DEATH!* with a prior warning only for viewers on screen and not the listeners. Such could've been the power of Nagash.

    @HiddenEvilStudios@HiddenEvilStudios29 күн бұрын
  • I'd like to see the "Gods of Warhammer - Dwarven Gods" video soon. Grimnir would be cool to talk about, and his comparative relation to Gotrek.

    @darkyuraptor3315@darkyuraptor331529 күн бұрын
  • Can't wait to see more gods of warhammer videos

    @adriancontreras7523@adriancontreras752323 күн бұрын
  • Thanks for that ending stinger, Pancreas, I’ll be sure to visit Morr’s Garden very soon.

    @BossEvasion@BossEvasion29 күн бұрын
  • I mean to say that the C'tan aren't gods because they aren't warpbound is...I dunno. I feel like the qualifications for what a god is mostly based on age and power over reality. I don't think whether or not they have a connection to the Warp should be a determining factor. Because the Chaos Gods are tied to Immaterium, the C'tan the Materium, and then you have beings like The Emperor of Mankind or The Old Ones who influenced both. Which makes me wonder (especially with stuff like The Webway) if Realspace was actually a part of The Warp that became stabilized and began following strict, observable laws in order to stay that way. The C'tan through Necrontyr tech just found a way to bend those laws with their power.

    @DeusExAngelo@DeusExAngelo29 күн бұрын
  • Ulric is so badass that his worshipper became a god and his worshiper's worshiper became the one of chaos' fiercest foes. Still, Ptra's worshipper is Settra, so its a fierce battle for the top spot.

    @KaiserAfini@KaiserAfini27 күн бұрын
  • The Rhya vs Slaanesh rivalry of love vs pleasure has a good example in AoS too in one story where a Hedonites commander captured a Sylvaneth to try and turn her to his side as he cultivated her sisters into exotic fruit trees and wanted soulpods to grow his own army. When walking through his harems with her he asked if she was bothered by it and she no for as a creature of the Life Realm Sylvaneth approve of the acts of love creating birth & more life* However he said their acts won’t as they use magic to keep them sterile as children take away pleasure and Slaanesh’s followers only want to focus on the here and now. This puzzled her and had her say then it is simply a pointless act as you are people without legacies and no future or potential as that is the greatest gift of life vs pure pleasure. (He would later get his wish of “planting an army” but oohhh all the monkey paws curled on that wish. Don’t eat Sylvaneth fruit, your outhouses will become barracks) *Realm of Ghyran is big on it, even the landmasses multiply by having genders so they drift together and mate to birth new islands and floating landmasses.

    @ce4879@ce487929 күн бұрын
  • Seriously lack of luthor harkon but...the sea god...hmmm yes good truly he is pirate( great video! Keep up the grand work!)

    @explore7891@explore789129 күн бұрын
  • Damn, this be doing numbers

    @iwannabeanonymous2236@iwannabeanonymous223629 күн бұрын
  • I’m excited for you to cover Myrmidia

    @hiage66666@hiage6666629 күн бұрын
  • Nice Mpreg joke at the end.

    @MrDarthtelos@MrDarthtelos29 күн бұрын
  • You should make a video about the True king of Eightpeaks, Skarsnik

    @danman3268@danman326829 күн бұрын
  • You from from a fun rabbit joke to the most endearingly genuine mispronunciation (*as much as you can with a made up word*) of Talabecland and it was great

    @GWR515@GWR51528 күн бұрын
  • I look forward to any exploration of Ursun you end up doing! I know Total War: Warhammer 3 had a lot of lore creation, updates and tweaks to some of its factions because they were fairly obscure, but I am very curious to learn if he entirely separate from the Old Gods mentioned here or not.

    @morcbus123@morcbus12328 күн бұрын
  • Just got outta Bootcamp and had some time to burn. Happy to see a new post :)

    @kilogramofwhat830@kilogramofwhat83029 күн бұрын
  • Maybe a quick rundown on the minor & regional gods of the empire in the next video? Katia, Bögenauer, Handrich... A lot are mentioned in wfrp 4e corerulebook and Archives III.

    @guitarjacksonblue@guitarjacksonblue28 күн бұрын
    • Yes, he should definetly do that, there are also more in a couple other wfrp 4e books, like the river god grandfather reik. Or the goddess katya; patron of bawds, lovers, amd the lonely. Fun fact about katya, her temples double as brothels in some areas of the reikland.

      @jamesmarriner9675@jamesmarriner967528 күн бұрын
  • May Nuffle bless you on the table top

    @adamstephens5964@adamstephens596429 күн бұрын
  • Great vid!!

    @elilambert6450@elilambert645029 күн бұрын
  • So first: a bit grim but I want to thank you, having a rough couple days and learned about you so it helped to hace you in the background to take my mind off stuff. On the other hand I do have a question about the Empire of Man for someone you just kindled an interest for the "World that was" I would like answered if at all possible, since my grasp is little more than what you explained and that Karl Franz is Roboute in non space therefore he is awesome. The Empire of Man looks similarly to the 30 years war germans but you mentioned multiple times they were, effectively, on the early industral period. Beyond steam tanks (which you explained were prototypes) what makes you say that?

    @Andreu0rtin@Andreu0rtin29 күн бұрын
  • 15:51 Funnily enough, this is a reference to the Rime of the Ancient Mariner, a late 18th-century major poem by Samuel Taylor Coleridge, which referenced the somewhat popular superstition of the time that Albatrosses were the souls of lost sailors, so killing them would bring bad luck, and popularized this niche superstition held inconsistently by sailors throughout history into popular culture, so it kind of is a genuine superstition held by medieval sailors.

    @thermalvision203@thermalvision20329 күн бұрын
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