Today we're looking at the new changes to Conan's battle pass. They aim to make it faster and easier to level up, but how do these reworks perform? Let's find out!
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Contents:
00:00 - Intro
00:19 - Challenge Changes
01:07 - In-Game XP Gain
02:40 - The Downsides
06:39 - Are These Changes Good?
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i kinda regret buying the battlepass.. it feels like homework plus i cant spawn the creatures from the achievments and having to play the game in such a broken state that you cant even loot stuff its a bit to much. even the console people is mad, and most of the changes we PC players complain, were made for console users so . . it is the begining of the end it feels
Personally I'm not a fan of any mechanic that attempts to 'force' me to engage with the game more. Over time it puts me in a position where I'm only ever logging in to do my dailies/weeklies because, by the time I complete those, I'm tired and burnt out and don't feel like engaging in my favorite games any more. The old method at least gave me the opportunity to let the multipliers stack for a few weeks while I either just enjoyed normal gameplay, or the other games that I love, and then once a month dedicate an evening to grinding out levels of the BP. As a 30+ y/o with a life outside of games and other games to play, I appreciate and stick to games that don't make me feel pressured to play them beyond just being fun to play. When you have a game start to play to your FOMO every time you don't have the time or energy to play it, it ceases to be a hobby for my peace and enjoyment and instead joins the long list of chores that are constantly fueling my anxiety. Critique of the game aside, I appreciate the video. You always do a lovely job of summarizing updates in ways that are clear, concise, and enjoyable. Thank you for the continued content, Cheers!!
Such is life with modern gaming, I suppose. Retention is, from what I hear, one of the better indicators of success, hence why every game is always trying to push it up. In regards to your issues of having other stuff you wanna do, I'll have a video out fairly soon that might be quite helpful, especially if you're on PC. It'll be a very min-max method, but depending on your platform, you can finish the entire battle pass in 7 days with a real time play count of probably minimum 30 minutes, maximum 2 hours across all seven days. Glad you enjoyed the video, I appreciate the glowing endorsement! Plenty more to come :)
@@Eradicati0nn I look forward to that. I cheesed it to the cap every day so far and on Friday night I was at level 48.5. I simply logged into solo on Siptah, and teleported between spots that have 3 to 4 bosses in close proximity to kill, area killed them and any smaller targets that I could hit in groups. It's kinda boring but it was fast.
What we need is Frank frazetta inspired armor and clothing for our barbarians
Isn't the silent legion Frazetta's Death dealer inspired? Oh, if your a fan of heavy metal fantasy Italian movies check out this silly game "Age of Barbarian" LoL!
@@Ming1975 They are, especially The Kinscourge,
In short, you can just blast through the weekly challenges and then just go back to playing the game normally. You gradually get XP for most of what you already do, so it cuts down a little bit on the time needed to complete it. It takes a little longer than the old system unless you power grind it, but it also means you can relax and just play instead of having to hunt for challenges every day. Killing world bosses is something you already do for other resources and drop farming. Giant creatures like Frost Giants drop decent loot now, so not exactly wasteful to do it. Demonic creatures tend to drop a lot of good items when harvested. Levelling thralls, harvesting favor, getting tar and building bases just to name a few tend to stack up on the progression.
As for hitting the XP cap quickly and easily, I was running around stabbing everybody in Supermaru repeatedly. 10xp per stab, 1 battlepass level per 100 stabs. Got a little tedious and repetitive. Then I went up to a high place, built a foundation big enough for a dozen improved blacksmith benches. Spawned 24,000 steel, put 2,000 in each bench and set them to work on steel reinforcement. The "Tier Progress" ticker is counting aboud 100 points per minute, or the full daily cap in about 80 minutes. Now I can really just go play however I want, say, building a frontier castle in jungle and presto, an hour and a half later I hit the cap.
XP amounts I've noticed while playing: Prey kills: 1 XP Regular kills: 10 XP One skull: 30 XP Three skull: 75 XP Purple lotus orb: 1 XP for filling the flask with water at an alchemist bench, 10 XP for the water orb, and another 10 XP for purple orb Dragonbone arrows: 10 XP per arrow and crafting is very fast A lot of this got easier with the crafting rebalance that reduced the material and time costs for crafting things in Ch.4.
Unless I did my math wrong there might be a variance between different creatures withing level category. If I'm not mistaken, I was getting 20XP from baby dragons and the notes said that you got up to 100 for 3 skull bosses. I assume that's because killing a giant croc is very different than a bloodmoon beast. I also got 1XP from harvesting a full node of black ice so there's likely not variance in harvesting.
If anyone else hits the boss for the challenge you don’t get it. This must be a nightmare for people on very populated servers. It also promotes solo play over group play, which does not strike me as ideal.
Smh go to single player go in admin mode complete your challenges which u can do in 5 mins then go back to what u we’re going
@@smallblockafc3948 you think a system that promotes playing in single player is a good idea?
It was a very informative video. Thanks for doing the research! Also, did that werebear boss really go "I'm too cool to follow Jhebbal Sag" at 8:12? To his own deity. In his own domain. During his own ritual.
Glad you enjoyed it! The Werebear is pretty interesting lore-wise, I've not had chance to delve too deep into it yet, but it seems it might have been a child of Jhebbal Sag trying to become a god, or something along those lines. I'll need to have a good read of the dialogue and do some research
Regarding the part where you don't get xp or challenge rewards from anything you admin spawned. Turns out you can actually get them to count for the challenges but only if you spawn them via admin console commands, and not the admin panel. Found this out through a discussion on steam!
Ah, I didn't know that! Makes me almost want to double down on the 'oversight' reason, seems they'd get both methods if it was intentional
By any chance know how todo this with Demonic Hyena? Haven't being able to find a single one
@@rentherengend1306 Demonic seems a little buggy, or maybe just badly explained. The Albino Bat Demon at the top of the Tower of Bats counts, but regular Bat Demons don't. I've also heard some dragons and dragon hatchlings count, alongside the lion at Swagger Rock. If you're in single player, you could go into admin mode, kill the Albino Bat Demon, fly away, come back and repeat until the challenge is done
@@Eradicati0nn nah i got that part, but my challenge specifically wants me to kill a demonic hyenas
@@rentherengend1306 It does? That's odd, I was certain everyone got the same challenges. Have you tried the undead hyenas near the Sinkhole?
I have the purge disabled are you able to spawn it in through admin mode to do it?
The Bosses in the Gray Gigant Pools Work If you Spawn the Statues
after 4 days, of normal play (for me), i am at tier 42 in the battle pass, i finished the weekly in 2 days from a fresh start character. so, i feel the speed to complete it has increased quickly. its nice that they made the fix where you cant cheese the battle pass anymore with admin spawning (its a feature not a bug).
All in all though, you can still utilize admin mode in single player to quickly travel to the world bosses and grind locs right? I feel like that’s still quite a reasonable use case for daily or semi daily players to optimize progression and reliably max the BP
I try to be a positive person. I can usually adapt to pretty much anything. But this change f**kin sucks lol
I'm liking it, I've unlocked 18 levels in less than a week, just playing and doing the weekly challenges.
War Party is still glitched. Inventory screen is glitched to high heaven. Since we use the Inventory screen every 10 seconds or so the game is unplayable
How is war party glitched? Im having some issues where 1 thrall does one attack then stands still. Is this the same issue?
@1_Sanguine_1 Yep. Unless they get hit again. Also, after the initial attack they don't respond to being ordered to attack. It's completely broken, for at least 2 months now
@@Bubbles99718 Its the exact problem im having. Holy hell, how can shit like this still be in the game?
How is inventory glitched? Ive had no issues save for the removal of precision stack splitting
I was able to reach xp limit doing stone consolidate and weapon handles and armor fittings
Why cant i craft anything since the new update?
What I hate about the new update is the new inventory HUD. I play on ps4 and every time I open my inventory or workbench, it lags a lot, even on performance mod!
Why can't I get Battelpass XP on coop hosted sessions?
I wish battle passes werent gone forever. I had stopped playing the game for a bit before age of sorcery and i missed ch1 and ch2 and i kick myself for it all the time. Had i known theyd become unobtainable i would have came back to do them. Id gladly pay to unlock those again and grind them out. I really think they should be available in the bazaar at all times
After now editing to delete my original rant, just want to check if it is definitely 9k exp or 9 levels a day that we're limited to daily for battlepass exp? Now I'm progressing my battlepass properly I've noticed some demonic animals aren't being counted towards certain challenges. I still think they should revert back to allowing people to admin spawn enemies in to do challenges seeing it's all cosmetic rewards and nothing game breaking.
Its great imo. Im lvl 15 already. Took me 4 weeks to get to 15 last pass
Purges have been pretty rewarding
So it is a feature, not a bug. Unhappy about the XP cap myself.
I ran Kurak's dungeon, killed everything except the zombies, harvested everything and gained 1.4 battle pass levels in under 15 minutes. I ran the Warmaker's dungeon, killed everything except the black yeti, harvested everything and gained 1.4 levels in an hour and a half. Go with Kurak for grinding.
I tried Kurak too, definitely seems like one of the more viable options, especially in the spider phase
@@Eradicati0nn Making Ironhead arrows is 10 xp. Ironhead are the base of all the specialty arrows. I'll be using lots of nox arrows for the purge, so it's passive xp gain, but not a waste of materials.
You can still admin spawn mobs for XP and Challenges. You just need to spawn them in with console commands rather than the admin panel menu. Don't know why one method gives XP while the other doesn't but it is what it is.
Fun fact just hours after the new BP went live players just made loads and of twine and afk completing the BP within a few hours 😂 Funcom noticed this and implemented the cap and removed twine crafting from the xp list as well as a few others.
6:20 yes EXACTLY
Tier Complete messages pop-ups happened to me twice while doing mundane stuff and they made me jump as I was not expecting it. An XP cap sounds unfair. If someone is playing and earning, let them earn and be thankful they are that engaged with the game.
Crafting is so easy todo, but does cap you out considering you can get 8 levels in 5mins is insanely easy! I'm already at level 42 on my battlepass.
I'm amazed at how much easier it is than the old system. I'm wondering if it may get nerfed next chapter.
Mine maxed out last night 😢 got to level 11 and stopped getting xp
The overall changes to the pass are okay, the xp restrictions less. While you technically complete the pass faster, keep in mind that before it only took around 4 sessions with full xp boosts within 12 days to finish it. I found an interesting way so far to max out the daily cap very fast.
My poor bearer thralls need therapy after the severe hit point nerf. They feel so inept and squishy I don't think they will ever recover.
i was actually mistaken about this i was the first one complaining about the daily cap but this one is actually faster im already lv41 they should cap more exp gain lol
Got 8 levels in 10 minutes with challenges but I’m burnt out with the BP system now
They need at least a few daily challenges, grinding xp once the weeklys are done is abysmal
XP cap actually gets me to want to play less, to be fair... I run a server. But have a second account I play on on my server, which I do not use Admin Commands or spawns. And now, I don't want to play after I reach the daily cap, because I now feel it is a waste of play... I'm getting nothing for the work I'm doing... crafting armor for my thralls, weapons, increasing my build, etc... now I only want to go as long as it takes to reach the cap (usually about an hour or two.) Then quit playing until the next day, and go play something else, so that I don't waste my resources or time gaining no BP XP...
Admin in solo game and 3h later you get lvl 60 BP.
I prefer this new battlepass xp system, ok it needs some improvements but is all the way better than before, now simply you can complete the pass doing everything, the old system was really too tedious... considering the disaster funcom has made with thralls commands (horses in particular) this new battlepass is good for me.
I'm not a fan of the xp cap, but the change isn't so bad.
this wasn't my biggest problem. what i didn't like was the removal of the precise stack split. that was the worst part of the update.
Don’t think XP from killing and farming is worth it. But crafting with a few benches in single player is better as the tasks before. I’m level 30 now after that few days.
I'm hearing a lot about crafting being faster, my initial results might have been a bit skewed from the Battle Pass XP counter not updating. I did think that a high xp stackable item crafting away in the thousands might be good XP, I'm not surprised to hear people are finding it to be the most frictionless method
@@Eradicati0nn The fastest I've found so far is the dragonbone arrows. They craft fast and generate 10 XP per arrow. But honestly, it seems like it would be almost impossible to not finish the BP now if you're playing frequently.
I mean... if you're playing the game, how do you avoid multiple levels per day from killing stuff? It's slower than crafting, but it seems like all discussion of the new progression is from the perspective of people who don't plan on ever playing the current chapter of the game and still want the BP, just in case they start playing again in the future. Otherwise, it's hard to find a way to not clear the BP in three months.
@@IcyTormenti mostly build. No XP gain there. That’s why only crafting seems worth the time..
Guess what? Great Video:)
I look at it like this. I play Conan when I want to play conan. I support the game via their overpriced mtx and the bp because I want there to BE more conan when i want to play conan. If i have to make this the only game i play? I just will stop supporting it. I'm down to just do the play for 15m every week method and clear it in 8 weeks if i'm not actually playing the game actively. It works, but my god its not any less stupid than the slogging non-boost grind it was previous. The only reason they draw it out is so you can spent CC to buy levels if you get fomo. That's the stuff they do that i hate. At least you showing the math behind it (and in your newer video with the numeric breakdown) its still an improvement, but i hope they dont jank it further to draw more people to have to either live in the game or buy levels, cause that'll be the end of the game for me.
Not faster since i can’t farm it as i used too. But does make it easier.
Why is no1 talking about the destruction of pvp?
I like the things being offered on the Chapter 4 Battlepass. I also like removing the low level challenges because I didn't really do those anyway. I would wait during the week and let my boosters build up then do only the rare and legendary challenges, which is fairly similar to the new weekly challenges. I'm not sure yet how I feel about all the changes. I think it will take a little time to get used to it and see how it works (or doesn't) over time.
They removed the ability for admin spawns to grant xp and want me to actually come back? No thanks :)
The cap is understandable since they want people playing the game, but on the other hand we are paying for these rewards, which changes things a bit.
Not sure about you but my battle pass is busted. Will not tally properly. It gave me only 3 out of 10 giant creatures killed when I took out the frost temple and camps nearby. Same with world bosses. playing PvE
This game should never have had a BP system. I played the first version of early access and I have no fucken clue what this game is anymore
Idk, the battle pass has generally been pretty good value since its inception. of things have changed since early access though, even way before the Ages system 😂
I finished the "challenges" in roughly 20 minutes. Now I have nothing to do for a week. Weak. I can't do the hunt because the mob that starts it isn't spawning for me. I was excited for the BP so I had little side things to do. Nope, no fun allowed. Why would "fun"com care if people were finishing it too fast. They removed actual gameplay.
There is one thing that made all the math around it irrelevant - you cannot do it in multi. I mean, technicaly you can, but if more than 1 player deal damage to any creature, noone is getting profit for killing it - neither progresion of the weekly quests, nor battlepass xp. So even if you are on a server, in practice you need to play solo. For a person who play mainly on a private server with a bunch of frends - it simply ruin the entire game. I hope it is a bug (and they fix it soon) cose if they decide to punish people for teamplay in team-based game... just no words to describe it.
It seems to me that the new Battle Pass unlocking system is designed to give us the illusion that we don't have to force anything, and we will still reach the last level in due time. So if we play intensely, doing what we usually do every day, our BP levels build up simultaneously and we don't have to focus on it. The problem arises when we play only with BP in mind, then no matter what we do, it starts to resemble forced farming. I guess we just have to get used to it.
Yeah that's the case with basically every Battle Pass, hell, maybe even every in-game challenge in most games. I remember using weapons I hated back in Black Ops 2 just to try to get camos for the guns I actually liked, kinda the same vibe here. Fortunately, there are so methods that currently work which I'll be covering soon that basically require no thought and will do your daily cap in like 5 minutes
I always regarded it as something else to do as I went about whatever activity I had planned for the day. No problems completing it before the next season.
@@davefinfrock3324my thoughts as well
I play this game solely as a single player mostly for the building (often making gratuitous use of the admin panel and creative mode), and on top of that I constantly start over with new characters because, well, you are only allowed one character at a time (2 if you have the Isle DLC). So if I have another character idea I want to mess around with I have to start over. Safe to say I preferred the old system to this new one as I would level up the battle pass just as fast with a newer lower level character as I would with an older higher leveled one. This new version, not so much ... I really don't want to have to routinely farm high level boss enemies every week, which is something I don't do when I play normally as that is not what I'm interested in doing when I play... in fact I usually avoid those enemies as a boring nuisance that is not worth the time dealing with them, but now I have to actively seek them out... yay. I won't know until I actually finish out the pass whether or not this new system is faster for me or not... but I'm not liking it so far.
By the sounds of it, and a patch notes preview released today, it looks like crafting epic items might be a good idea. If you already use admin & creative, it might be worth setting a crafting station to craft thousands of epic items, then just deleting it and let the bag expire when you're capped out. Completely passive and has no effect on how you want to play
So far, I'm finding that I'm getting more XP from regular play (not challenges or crafting just for battle pass XP) than I got using all my multipliers with challenges last chapter. They've made it *really* easy to clear the BP now. And some of those challenges are really easy. The "demonic animals" one clears with any one skull, including the T4 NPCs at the noob river camps. That's 2.5 levels right there.
@@IcyTormentsame. One of the aggressive shalebacks has a chance to spawn with 1 skull and is on the way back to my noob base. Checked off 3 of the 5 demon creatures right there lol
You could also ask the Dev's now you have them on the phone, Why is max level 60?... after level 60 game is kinda over.! I kinda get it if you play PVP, but us PVE players don't need that cap on levels. Lokking forward to the reply from the devs... Anyways, thx for the vid, as always 🙂
Level 60 is the end of the tutorial mode, basically.
The old battle pass was a choice between a slow grind of running all over the map to complete challenges, or a faster grind with the admin panel. With the new one, I'm getting a few levels a day without doing anything but just playing the game. I am paying attention to how much I get for various things, though, in case I need to do a last minute rush in the future if there's a chapter I don't really play much. This new system is a huge improvement over the grind I went through for the last one, so I'm really happy with it. I think the people complaining about the new battle pass are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome with the old BP. Even the challenges for the first week seemed unreasonably quick and easy if you want to do it that way: I killed a named NPC on noob river next to my camp and the one on the beach near the giant croc on my way to the croc. Then I killed the croc, ran to the giant croc location by mek kamoses and killed him again, then ran back and forth to finish out the five. On the way home, I killed the NPC on the beach again to finish the last challenge. This took something like 15 minutes without any admin cheats.
That’s a pretty dope path actually. Might try that to finish off my list for the week
@eradicati0n , the cap sadly is necesary, if not they will loose those customers who buy BP levels, it is tru you gain no XP when you spawn things, but what you can do, is to have instant spawn, the game itself will respawns and those will give you XP
Tbh I completely forgot you can buy BP levels 😂 I think the last time I ever paid them any mind was back in AoS C1 when I said "Don't buy levels, it's overpriced" and haven't thought of them since lmao. Makes sense the cap would be for purchased levels, though I can't say I understand the motives of those who would buy levels
@@Eradicati0nn some forms of OCD.... some people will just want to have it all now, and pay for it,.
The chapter 4 battlepass is kinda horrendous. There's literally only two items that I want from it and those are the dog and the woodcutting block decoration. Some of the tents aren't too bad, but let's be honest, nobody really uses them. This has to be the worst battlepass I've seen in Conan.
I was annoyed about the slower Battlepass leveling, but i found my new meathod. Im Happy :)
Game is awesome, but armors looks like pokemon,
It's pretty bad.. there's no freedom and many of the challenge goals have too many repetitive tasks
Its awful.. the amount of XP you get is a joke and an XP cap is pathetic, extremely scummy company funcom is becoming
I second that.
Oh... So there's a cap. No wonder I couldn't cheese it 😭
What I think you meant is 'are' instead of 'is becoming'.
I feel like it's more on par with other games and their battle passes but I still feel the burn of Funcom..
I mean, you've all participated in other battle passes right? Some are much more grindy
Weekly challenges for the Battlepass absolutely need to change. 2 of the 3 challenges I have this week require going into dungeons that are so broken and buggy I can't complete them. Had to reboot my PC at least once because it hard froze trying to complete one of these challenges. I've completed every Battlepass since it was introduced but if this is the way it will be going forward, I'll probably be done with the game for good.
What😂 I don't wanna grind this bs, the other pass way was wayyyyy better Edit:I bought the pass 1 month late and don't have much to play, I don't wanna GRIND for my money I spent
Harvesting resources and killing enemies is the bare minimum. I hate this new system.
The new system is so much less of a grind. I'm really happy so far.
Everyone, or at least those who I have noticed commenting in videos and other media, act like the battle pass progression is the only desire when playing the game. Or at least it is the only thing to do in this game now lol. Just play the game normally, I have never exaggeratingly worried about not completing a pass before or ever if I play casually. When I load up the game, my main drive is not completing the battle pass in as little time as possible - I focus on my gameplay. If you are only focused on the battle pass for your gameplay, speeding through it won't bring you back to your game lol
But the game is pushing you to finish the battlepass so you don't have to pay for the next one lmao.
@@clnetrooper lol where? That’s on you, it’s not forcing or pushing that you HAVE to finish the pass. Whether you buy it and how you spend your Crom coins is on you. At the end of the day, you have like 4-5 months to complete the pass. Everyone out here like they must complete it in the first day or two. If you like the game enough to pay for their micro transactions, then play the damn game as you normally would and you’ll complete it WAY before the next chapter.
On the subject of the cap, players wouldn't have to sit there for five hours working the BP. They'd just dump a bunch of materials into benches and do a "craft all" and go do something totally unrelated, walk away from the computer and go eat lunch or whatever. If you had a bunch of materials stockpiled, it would be almost as close to zero time and effort as if they added a "Finish Battle Pass Now" button to the main menu. So I don't see any way around a cap with something like this.
Battlepass okay. Everything else absolutely fucking sucks.
This CAP xp is horrible, I used to finish my battle pass in like 2 or 3 days max. I'm a rush player, and have been getting my 8 levels by just crafting dragon bone arrows, I use 4 benches and I get those xp in 1 minute max...
i wish building gave you Battle pass Xp
That would be sick. The EL would be a metropolis 🤌