Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant are two all-time greats. They only have 1 MVP each and throughout the years, it's been a widely discussed topic.
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For Shaq he could have been an MVP during his orlando days but he had heavy competition back then... in his Lakers days he played with Kobe and that limited his MVP chances... add media bias against both Kobe and Shaq and the mvp traditionally going to guys with better narratives and that's a major reason why they both "only" have one MVP a piece
Idris Burch Fair points. Looking back at stats doesn’t tell the whole story. It’s understandably hard to win multiple MVPs and even more difficult to get it consecutively. Makes Steph, MJ, and Nash accomplishments wildly impressive. That bein said, Shaq has a legit case for the 04 MVP. Avg 23/10.5 to Nashes 15.5/11.5. Lowest scoring average every for an MVP that year. But Nash also changed the game that year similar to how Curry did his mvp season. The numbers just didn’t quite reflect it. Shaq had other seasons before that were way better statistically and that definitely hurt him. So his season didn’t stand out as much as Nashes did that yr
Kobe was too controversial to get MVP. He almost lost that one too to CP3
What are you, a parrot? You texting almost everything the narrator is saying.
true
@@tjanderson5892 how did steve nash change the league?...
Lol in 95 Shaq and Robinson finished ahead of Hakeem. Then when playoffs started Robinson got demolished while Shaq got swept in the finals by Hakeem.
That happens when you meet hakeem the dream
Nah, Robinson led the league in win shares
@@b.x.2845 Ok that doesn't change the fact that he got dominated in the playoffs
The. MVP. Award. Is. A. Regular. Season. Award.
Hakeem was never going to win it in 95. Rockets only won 47 games.
Again, you hit me with a video I didn’t know I wanted.
It naturally happens every time
Shaq accusing Nash of "stealing" is hilarious 😂 Considering Shaq actually stole a tv idea from Nash
Lol what tv idea did Shaq steal
@@maxjulien2647 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaq_Vs.
And the NBA rigged it so the Lakers could win their title
Shaq v.s watch Andy Hoop on Shaq vs Nash I think.
@@keymuandreabdallah7131 ur butthurt ain't ya
The MVP is completely narrative driven award lol.
I'd have to agree, especially in 2017. Sympathy award for KD leaving. mediocre record AND no home court advantage should've prevented Westbrook from winning it. I would've picked Harden, Steph or even KD over Westbrook for that year's MVP.
Abu Hassan most of the times this is not.... the mvp award has been giving to the best player on the best regular season team (record wise) 65% of the times and 85% if a player lead his team with one of 3 best record in the league.
@Phil Barnes I already explained why. In a full 82 game schedule, 47 is a mere 6 games over .500
Cream are u braindead? 47-35 is 12 games above .500 not 6
@@cz7221 LMAO, I meant 6 wins better than a .500 record. My bad
8:45 lol, why does Mark Cuban look older in 2007 than he does now?
More money
adrenochrome
He's obviously a vampire. Duh
@@cameronhoglan you are closer to the truth than you think. watch "celebs parts 1&2 these people are sick" on youtube before they take it down again and see what billionaires, celebrities, and spirts stars do with all the money they have
Cause we have better cameras now and we're able to capture his true beauty.
Feels weird watching kobe related videos while knowing that he isnt here anymore. Anyway nice vid!
How abbaut playing nba 2k every time comentatarot said bryant i start to cy
@@reltihfloda7419 can you English?
@@kaiseramadeus233 no my friend im from balkan i can speek prety good but spell prety bad
Dude is short.
Kaiser Amadeus he said nothing to offend you and you got butthurt because English is not his first language
Rest in Peace Kobe Bean Bryant 😢
We relying on you for the next couple of weeks bro keep up
- Ahhh, the oasis of an NBA-dry spell.
7:00 Kobe was literally putting up the same numbers as Shaq after 2000
Len Walker that’s why Only Shaq won it when they played together. It was still Shaq’s team. Kobe wasn’t getting his due as far as MVP consideration until after Shaq was gone.
In 2000 Shaq clearly was the top dog. After that the numbers show that him and Kobe had the same numbers scoring wise, in fact Kobe had the higher scoring average in 2001,2003,and 2004.
Len Walker Same numbers but Shaq was averaging more rebounds and shooting nearly 60% from the field(!!!) How could they justify giving Kobe and MVP, when Shaq was the better player on the team? It wasn’t going to happen.
@@scopeworth7781 because Shaq a center he better be avereage more rebounds than a guard. As for score same thing apllies a center that works in the paint. Should have a higher field goal percent than a guard. But yes Shaq was better than Kobe.
I just don’t like how Andy was so quick to dismiss Kobe’s MVP chances with shaq like he was nowhere close in the running. In 2001 he was top 10 in voting at 9 to Shaq’s 3. In 2002 he was top 5 being at number 5 to Shaq’s number 3, 2003 he was top 3 at #3 to Shaq’s 5 and 2004 was top 5 at 5 to Shaq’s 6. It was a lot closer than he made it seem
Just want to say thanks for putting out more quality content while many of us are in quarantine and waiting for the league to resume. I appreciate it.
I've been saying this for you years bro 💯💯💯 quality content here
Crazy how lebron overcame the “multiple super star effect “ and got mvps with wade and bosh on his squad media bias
if Kobe was on that heat team in his prime instead of lebron he’d have as many MVPs as lebron did on that team.
The media simply didn't get over Colorado. There's no justification for Lebron winning 4 and Shaq and Kobe only 1 apiece. The media was hell bent on moving on to the Lebron era andfavored Lebron over Kobe. . Kobe was better than Lebron until about 2012 or 2013. Lebron winning MVPS while playing for Miami were blasphemous!
@@lennybeason1110 STFU. You are an asshole.
He didn't "overcome" it, the media just abandons logic when talking about Lebron.
@@lennybeason1110 facts! I agree
For Kobe 00-03 that when he was a true all star
He was a true all-star after that too
true all star his whole career
unreal jdever from 96-99 and 13-16 he wasn’t good
2013 he averaged 27 dumbass
Gang time what does this even mean
I'm happy you're making these kinds of historical videos during this virus lockout
You’ve become my fav nba KZhead over time ur a great video maker and the narrating is amazing
The MVP is stupid, very stupid, I mean if there is a guy who is doing fenomenal things he should win MVP, I mean look at Garnett in 04' He was a monster and that was the definition of Most Valuable Player (He led his team in every stat I believe that year)
Ya if he gets his team winning then ya
@@myleslondon5220 Ofcourse
Phenomenal *
1961-62 season (80 games): Wilt = 50.4 ppg, 25.7 rpg, 2.4 apg, .506 fg%, 49 wins; 100 points in a game Oscar = 30.8 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 11.4 apg, .478 fg%, 43 wins; highest triple-double average Russell = 18.9 ppg, 23.6 rpg, 4.5 apg, .457 fg%, 60 wins; MVP
I don't know why Bill Russell won either, but back then the MVP was voted on by the players. It was only since the 1980-81 season that it was decided by a panel of sportswriters and broadcasters. So I guess the players thought he was better. It also helps that the Celtics had the best record in the league that year.
@@SSB8073 The attitude didn't change much. It's usually the wins that voters favor before the stats despite certain exceptions.
Players voted for the MVP back then and they have the best record in the league.
@@kl2389 Imagine if the players voted in the 2000s.
Kobe was also the most hated player by other nba players at that time
Because the league was rigging it for the Lakers to win
Kobe should have won 3 MVP awards.how the fuck Steve Nash won 2 MVP awards over Kobe in his dominance years
@Shadow for fucking what? Nash had 60 wins kobe was an 8th seed stfu
@@Miuranger1 Nash had an amazing team around him
@@seanfelder3286agreed plus 1 or 2 of lebrons first mvps
There are usually multiple players who deserve it. Ultimately the fact that it seems so weird for them to only have one each is a testament to how good they were in the playoffs. Just look at regular season, and the competition probably seems more even.
Your videos are the best ! Could you please make a video about Andris Biedrins and what made his career end ? He was a very nice talent for the Warriors in the beginning of his career😊
How was it wade team in his sophomore year when Shaq was second in MVP and he declined but was still a superstar
Gang time it was wades team for a little in the playoffs that’s it
Depends on what you're more impressed by, wade was already leading the team in scoring and was the teams best defensive player. Wade was arguably the better player that entire season and from then on, but the video is about Shaq
Gang time because on arrival Shaq had proclaimed it to be Wade’s team
That was shaq's last year as a legitimate candidate for MVP and after that it was clear that its wade's team as he went on to win finals MVP the very next season
Wade lead the team in scoring by 1 point on lower efficiency (24ppg on 56%TS). Also, Alonzo Mourning was the Heat's best defensive player that season. Shaq scored 23ppg on 58%TS, Shaq also led the team in PER, Win Shares, Win Shares per 48, Offensive Box Plus Minus, Total Box Plus Minus, Offensive Real Plus Minus. Shaq was just a few votes shy of winning MVP during 04-05 Regular Season, Wade finished 8th in MVP voting that season. "Wade was arguably the better player that entire season" -During the 2004-2005 regular season Wade was NOT arguably better than Shaq in any way, shape, or form
Along with KG, Chuck, Dirk etc.
Imaginary Penguin not true he carried the wolves so so hard
@Imaginary Penguin come on bro, kg don't deserve shit from you
Fire topic and I think a really out of the box idea keep these coming how about a hour good was Kevin Garnett
*guy's videos so good I watched the ads*
Kobe absolutely deserved the MVP in 2006. His team was complete trash with Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Luke Walton in it. He averaged 35 ppg and carried his team into the playoffs in the arguably most competitive western confrence ever. He had the most historic games the NBA has seen in this season while playing his heart out. Nash had a great supporting cast. Its the same with Westbrooks MVP season, carried a trash team with no shooters into the playoffs winning 47 games while averaging 30 ppg and a triple double. If Westbrook was able to win MVP that season then Kobe absolutely deserved it.
I think Lebron is the best ever at carrying teams, but Kobe may have the (unofficial) record of worst team carried/dragged to the playoffs (Kobe even took the Suns to 7 games).
Its simple brah lets switch em up nash on those lakers kobe in the suns what would have happened the lakers would not win a game that how u know whos more valuable nash had a way better team he better have a better record
This Lakers team was worse than the Cavaliers team that Lebron was on and Kobe drug that team to the playoffs 2 years in a row in the tougher western conference.
For his 1st MJ had to average 35points... PLUS HE GOT DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. And he also best Dominique in the dunk contest and he won all star MVP and his team finished 4th. All during Pippen's rookie year.
Looking back on the ‘06 season, I think Iverson and LeBron both arguably had a better season than Kobe that year. Kobe averaged 35 ppg, but Iverson and Lebron were both also at 33 ppg & 31 ppg respectively. Iverson averaged more assists, and LeBron was better across the board, hence why he finished 2nd. His ‘06 Cavs team was just as bad if not worse than Kobe’s.
Stop downplaying Nash. He was the ultimate teammate and made his team much better. He turned a 20+ win suns to a 60+ in one season. He may not be dominant or have highlight reels, but he was the most valuable to his team in those 2 years, facts.
Nice vid bro
Oh snap Andy Hoops with another banger let’s goooooooo!!!!!!
Video idea: ranking the top ten best rookie seasons of all time!
That'd actually be cool. I have a feeling Shaq would be first or second, but it's hard to argue against guys like Tim Duncan, Blake Griffin, Yao Ming and Luka Doncic.
Lucas Bell Michael Jordan too
Obviously, it's Zion. No one comes close.
@@darkpope6667 what?
magic johnson is the best player who has the best rookie season of all time
Shaq also got robbed of Unanimous MVP
Jay Waz agree and I’m a HUGE A.I fan!
by a guy named Fred Hickman
What year?
Legends Never Die 2000
Atleast he still won the championship that season unlike the first unanimous MVP
Amount of MVPs is such a frivolous thing to look at. When looking at a players legacy you should probably look at how many times they finished top 3 or 5 in MVP voting to see how dominant they really were
It's called "MVP" (Most Valuable Player), not "GPOAT" (Greatest Player Of All Time)! Also, this is a SEASON MVP. The MVP is not judged on who made it to the finals! They're judged by who is more valuable to their team in the REGULAR SEASON!
Shaq and Kobe aren't even in the GOAT conversation.
@@MrJohnnyAOA to you they're not
Take Kobe off that kwame brown & smush Parker team they don’t win 10 games
@@VonGOMDyou put shaq and kobe above jordan, lebron, kareem, wilt, and russell?
How good was Dennis Johnson a top five point guard and top 10 defender in his prime.
Bro when are you gonna run out of players to mention 😂
Until I have no more
@@kawaiiunicorn8992 what about how good was jerry stackhouse
Kawaii Unicorn Who
YessirToliver everyone knows how good stackhouse is
Amazing video
3:55 “MVP isn’t always about being the best player” tell that to Lebron fans lol
X02Overdose Lebron is the most valuable player in the league 🚫🧢
The thing is when he in the floor the team looks really good
cabinetflame Because he’s the main ball handler and playmaker, that’s how it works
Ryan Nolan look at it this way take away giannis from the bucks what are they then? A maya be 7-8 or missing the playoffs lead by Middleton and then take away lebron from the lakers they still make the playoffs as a 5-6 seed that’s why lebron may be the best but not most valuable
@@ryannolan7122 you misspelled Giannis
2:48 how your “multiple superstar affect” don’t play a role in the eyes of the media concerning Lebron this year who play alongside a superstar in the person of Anthony Davis ?.......
Maybe, but Giannis will win it either way so its not like its close. Lebron will probably be second
because it's the LeMedia
Because there's always an exception to the rule. If no star won while playing with another star, that would be suspect.
Because every contending team this year has 2 stars. AD is probably the best secondary star in the league, but this year is all about duos
Lebron is the one feeding Davies on a lot of ADs points, finding him under the paint, facilitating offense to allow him to be on his favorite post up position, finding him on his best 3-pt spots and also the fact he takes most of the blame if lakers lose and AD is off media pressure unlike in his Pels days, when media pressure affected his confidence at times.
Why do people hyping LeBron to win MVP-award despite having AD who's easily top 5 player?
Because he's by far the most important player
@@MrTimLee84 but by that same logic, why did Steph and KD take votes away from eachother from 2016 - 2019? why doesnt that logic affect Lebron? I think thats the question being asked.
@@MrTimLee84 Only if you don't consider defense at all. The only thing that makes LeBron's season impressive is his assist numbers. But he's not playing defense and 1/3 of his assists go to AD. Without AD, LeBron's passing it to who? Kuzma?
Max 117 Kuzma is good but not that good
@@burneraccount2761 I never mentioned age. I said that the Superstar teammate argument seems to affect everyone, except Lebron
If we consider the two of Nash legit, there is no way they deserved more. Nice video.
I think so too. And Nash's were legit. Watching him make that Suns team a contender was amazing considering how they're the damn Suns. They hadn't been relevant since the early 90s.
After 2000 kobe and shaq was more like batman and superman than batman and robin, throughout the west playoffs kobe would dominate even carry the lakers in some series but since they matched up with teams with no dominant big in the finals they made a smart choice feeding shaq the ball
Aaron kobe was robin stop changing the narrative
Objective NBA Fan bro shaq literally admitted that shit after kobe died, check the stats and do your research he outplayed shaq in some west playoff series and didnt even get enough credit for clutch performances when shaq fouled out in game 4 against the pacers
Kobe should've had atleast 3 MVPs! 06, 08 and 09
Facts dude. Lebum robbed Kobe in 09 and lost to the pathetic Orlando Magic. That was Kobe's easiest championship
No lmao. He only deserved 1.
@@Abbad1579 quit capping he would’ve gotten 3 or 4 arguably if the weren’t a rigged media
@@dbz4735 Ok which 3?
It is very interesting that Kobe and Shaq only has 1 mvp. You would think Shaq would have 2-4 mvp's.People also would think Kobe would have 2-3 mvp's, but one is insane.But at the end of day it makes lot's of sense why both did only get one.
If Kobe had a solid squad around him he woulda won in 05 or 06
Kobe deserved 0. Shaq deserved 2.
@UC02CTUEHrDDWhQ4Co4q3Zug You are too dumb to contextualize. With a screen name like Money Mitch, I can already imagine how dumb an actual conversation with you will go down.
it's a popularity contest, statistical points should matter and how the player handles itself on winning situations
I thought Kobe should have won it in 2006. I'm a Suns fan, proud Kobe hater, hate the Lakers, Spurs, Tim Duncan, glad Nash won and stopped Kobe from winning it BUT he still deserved it over Nash. Nash had a great year, he led us to a good record despite losing Stoudemire at the beginning of the year but we still had a good team. Marion, Bell, a non-lazy Diaw, an unusually motivated Tim Thomas, Kurt Thomas, a solid Barbosa. None of them great players but a lot of really good players while Kobe really did have a crappy group around him. That Lakers team was bad and Kobe, in a fairly tough Western Conference, got them to the playoffs and they were competitive that year with the best of the West. Trust me, giving Kobe credit over Nash hurts me and I'm going to flog myself for saying such blasphemy but I truly do believe it.
Nah man nash gold improved the whole team even making bench players good and not only that nash didnt have anyone to and also hes the transition between offense
Bro fuck that Kobe didn’t deserve no mvp so what he had a crappy team he got them to a low seed 7 or 8th seed if I remember then they had a 3-1 lead then they just shitted on themselves fuck the lakers Nash took suns to heights they haven’t seen sense sir Charles
The Finals MVP is the real MVP and Shaq has 3 of those thangs.
@Caption This no, Shaq was by far the best player. It's cool though, Kobe has 2 finals MVPs. That's good too.
Caption This shaq was wayyyy better
@Caption This kobe fans are nuts. Shaq was a monster if Kobe was so great then where tf was he vs pistons?
Thank you for clarifying that AI's team wasn't complete trash, dudes who love to hate LeBron bring up AI's 2001 team in comparison to Bron's 2018. Saying how AI didn't get swept with a bad team.
He didn't. What's your point
@@VonGOMD Hes saying that people say oh Lebron got swept in the 2018 finals but Iverson didnt in 2001 and both had bad teams around them but Iversob didnt.
You should do a 90s “Runner up MVPs” video
Andy Hoops is my grown man bedtime story teller. Sleep like a baby after every video.
The rape trial was actually after the 2002-03 season so that obviously didn't factor into the MVP voting for that year and the following year, Kevin Garnett deserved the MVP regardless of that.
4:45 Popovich looking like a retired Sharkboy.
andy hoops number one
DO A VIDEO ON THE 2001 76'ers...COACH, DEFENSE, 6-,MAN AND MVP???
Didn't KD and Steph play 3 seasons together? Because you said 4
2016/17, 2017/18 and 2018/19, yeah you right
Maybe he ment 4 years
Eazymoneysniper 4 separate years but the first and last were only half the year so still 3 years
@@ogloc4478 I never said the full year, I just said 4 different years, better delete the comment mate
Only 3 years total
Shaq: Hey Kobe, there no "I" in team. Kobe: I know, that there's an M E on MothErfcuker. 🤣
Good vid...
That time when Shaq did a crossover and looked like Iverson 😂 legend. I don’t like his personality but the man could play.
When you realize that Nash have more MVPs than Kobe, KG, KD, Shaq, Dirk, Russ, Harden, CP3, Iverson, D-Wade, D-Rose, ... and had same number of MVPs as Curry, Duncan, Hakeem and Karl Malone
When you realize Steph Curry has the number of MVPs as Steph Nash and more than Kobe and Shaq
@@niggato23 well Curry had like a top 3 season ever in 2016
JReezy not top 3 ever
Why you acting like steve nash ain't a top 5 pg of all time
Uriah Without a doubt top 3 ever. When you win Unanimously, you gotta have one of the best seasons ever
Okay seriously, there are just so many folks here that don't get it. This award is called the MVP (Most VALUABLE Player), not BP (Best Player) or GP (Greatest Player). If there was ever an award for that in the regular season, then yeah, Shaq and Kobe would arguably win many of those. But this is an award in which a player is the most VALUABLE of their respective team. Now while "valuable" is a subjective adjective since it's difficult to pinpoint, the award is more for how successful the player has made their team and how their skills actually have more of an impact on the team as a whole rather than their skills alone. It's not all about scoring or many flashy shit. Also, this award is for who was the most valuable for their team in the REGULAR SEASON! So quit bringing up the finals whenever you want to make an opposing argument against a player over whether or not he deserved the MVP. Also, why are you people even bitching about Shaq and Kobe winning only one MVP anyways? They both already won championship rings and more than one Finals MVP each. So I don't see what the fuck people are still whining about. PS, Rest in peace Kobe, as well as your daughter, the pilot, and the other six passengers who were in that chopper.
Thank you for this Great video 👌 nash deserved the 2 mvp Trophys, no doubt
wow. This video made me realize its all about the narrative the nba want to push through unless players would go for crazy season
“A national story?” It was fully international.. lol
I’m asking you all. As far as accolades, would MVP count be their weakness when comparing them to other all time greats?
Ofc, second argument when Kobe vs MJ comes up, rings is first
Finals mvps should be ahead of rings
This probably why both Kobe and shaq are outside of most people's top 5 players of all time list.
666soccermom666 bron and jordan both got more then kobe as well
@@666soccermom666 absolutely. To me, 2 titles and2 finals MPV's are more than 5 titles being a second option. At least my opinion...
Kobe “only” finished 4th place in 06 because the media still hated him with a passion. If Westbrook won MVP with 47 wins then Kobe was most definitely MVP in 06 lmao. He scored 35 a night in the slowest paced season of all time lol
It’s not THE trumpets but it’ll do. Thanks Andy for another masterpiece
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Dirk should have won in 06 over Nash. Nash should have won in 07 over Dirk. CP3 should have won in 08 over Kobe but Lebron was coming and the league didn't want Kobe retiring without 1 MVP. CP3 that year was insane, better than 2011 DRose and 05 Nash. Shaq should have won in 01 over A.I. but A.I. had the narrative we all loved including me. Carrying a team of nobodies... Which we now know is not true, his style of play created that. But that just my opinion. Also Lebron should have won in 2011. Kawhi should have won in 2017.
I agree with everything.
6th notif squad here... Here in asia its 12am im about to sleep so imma just watch this tom peace
You weak af im in asia too
In 2001 Kobe and Shaq both averaged the same amount of points, I've never heard of two teammates averaging the same amount of points and one be considered a sidekick. Scottie Pippen was a sidekick, Scottie never came close to averaging the same points as Jordan..
Totally agree and that's the reason why you cant have lebron or ad win the mvp. Definitely should go to Giannis or even luka or chris paul honestly
What about lebron 2012 and 2013?
@@MuhammadReza-te9ct hes talking about this year
@@user-hh3gu9er1m yeah just want to know the case for lebron 2012 and 2013
The Superteam argument no applied to LeBron huh?
Manielito El Canelito butthurt Kobe fan
@@ipodtouch573 -
I miss the nba 😢
Tbh, LeBron's teams were stacked back in those Heat days. They didnt let Wade and Bosh affect his MVP rankings while Kobe and Shaq being teammates become a problem. Fuck the media
Durant finished second like 5-6 times
Still can’t believe Kobe didn’t win when he was going for 35 per game carrying that trash team
Records are a big part of it, he wanted to be the Alpha Male, which meant surrounding him with subservient role players who wouldn't object to him taking 27 shots a game. That's the path kobe chose and that was why he wasn't close to m.v.p. Vince Carter/Tracy McGrath/Allen Iverson could've averaged 35 a game on the same efficiency with those exact same teams proving it isn't m.v.p. quality
Excuse me *wasn't close to m.v.p. that year* (05/06 season) Steve Nash was a no doubter with Dirk/d wade as solid second options
@@deanbenford7363 Excuse me sir, not to be rude, but your statement is absurd, 05-06 Kobe was by far the best player on the face of the planet, averaging 35,5,5 with 48% shot percentage, how's that not mvp worthy?
@@doratheexplorer8274 He shot 45 percent that year not 48 percent(he never came close to shooting 48 percent in any season) 45% was the same percentage that Iverson shot that year and kobe only outscored Iverson that year because he took more shots. Nash took a team without Amare Stoudemire to 54 wins, that is M.V.P. worthy.
@@deanbenford7363 Stash have a more stacked team than Kobe in that time period. Amare, Marion, Barbosa, Richardson etc. compared to Kobe who only has one relevant team mate which was only Lamar Odom, so obviously Nash's team would translate to more winning but it does say that he is a better player or MVP candidate than Kobe, kobe has a better overall performance
4:51 is haunting
I really should’ve gotten more MVP’s
What years ?
good arguments can be made for him regarding: '02-03, '05-06, '06-07, '09-10,'10-11,'11-12, and even that damned '12-13
@@shaft9000 Definitely should've won 12-13 and I would've given him 05-06 as well
You deserved zero MVPs really.
Excuse me John
MJ only has 5 MVP awards. Could have been more.
Kobe could've won the 09 - 10 MVPs. Playing in the west his whole career made it difficult. In 2009, Lakers were 65-17, Cavs were 66-16. But the east only had 3 50+ win teams, the west had 6 50+ win teams (both 7th and 8th seeds were 1-2 games off from 50 wins). The 4th seeded Hawks wouldn't even be the 8th seed in the west. So yeah, getting to 66 wins and piling stats is easy if you keep playing weaker teams over and over. Same case in 2010, Lakers were 57-25, Cavs were 61-21. East had 4 50+ win teams, West had all 8 seeds winning 50+ or more. 4th seed and eventual eastern conference champ celtics wouldn't even be in the playoffs in the west. Doing the math, Western teams played the 15 Eastern teams 30 times. The remaining 52 games, they play against the 15 Western teams.
Lmfaoo hell no, lebron had better stats than Kobe and Dwight, led his team to the best record in the league with a worse supporting cast while finishing 2nd for spot and had a top 3 season production wise. And in 2010 again he had better stats, better team record and worse supporting cast. LeBron deserved both year without any doubt
It’s like the Giannis-Lebron Race. Giannis has better stats, with a worst supporting cast leading the bucks to the 1st seed. Lebron plays in the west, a tougher conference, with less impressive stats than Giannis but 2nd overall in the league. I’m telling you, if you play the hornets and the wizards and weak eastern teams, it’s easy to pile up stats and wins lol. Oh and btw, I’m a Lebron fan but even I know that the Cavs winning 60+ games in 09-10 wasn’t impressive. Another evidence that the east was so weak in that time, Devin harris, rashard lewis and mo fucking williams were all stars. Another evidence the east is weak, in the last 20 years the west won the title 14 times
@@mambaforever3239 all those players were all stars the year prior, and if you used context you would know bith Devin Harris and Mo williams were all stars because of injury. Not to mention in the east there were 2 60 win tems plus another 59 win team. To say winning 66 with that squad wasn't impressive is straight up lying. And "playing in a weaker conference" is vastly overstated, particularly when they had a 40-12 against the east and 26-4 against the west. Meanwhile the Lakers record against the east was 21-9. The Cavs had a better record against the west than the Lakers against the east. LeBron clearly deserved the MVP
2:40 wow what a creative name
Penny? His real name is Anfernee.
Kobe Bryant should of won back in "06"
Why? What did he do to deserve the MVP over Nash?
he signal handily lead a team back to playoffs when everyone had counted them out. Twice. In both 06 and 07. The reason he didn’t win it is because the NBA was and still is biased towards certain players.
The reason he didn't win it is because in 05 Nash had a ridiculous season leading a top team. Then in 06 Nash was even better leading a top team, it was hard not to give it to Nash again.
@@JG31392 7th seed, while winning MVP doesn't sound right. Sounds like you are the one who's biased. Olajuwon set the bar high. 2nd seed, playing with "scrubs".
@@MrJohnnyAOA Lead an absolute trash of a team into the playoffs. If it wasn't for Kobe, I doubt that trash lakers team would even get a double digit win record. Moreover for the simple fact that no one on earth could guard 2006 Kobe. 62 points in 3 quarters? That shit is Godlike. Even for video game standards. Also, Nash had a better team, hence the better team record, a great team in fact.
Spoiler Alert: It's due to a)marketing and b) a wonky "reg season only" mandate. This is an entertainment business first, competition is a distant second.
To be fair, the regular season is a ton of competition to base the award on.
Kobe got 1mvp but that man is a maniac We all knew how great he was that's why people wouldnt mind if only had one MVP.
There should be two MVP awards. One for the "MVP" and the other for the best player that season. Baseball gives out two MVP's and two Cy Young each for the American League(AL)and the National league(NL).
Bruh how does Steve nash have as many Mvps as Kobe, Shaq, D Wade and Chris paul combined
IKR. Steve nash never deserved his second MVP win. There were much better players than him in the league at that time.
When has Kobe ever been the hands down best player in the league
@@shreyasparida421 Most VALUABLE Player, not BEST Player.
Random question: do y’all think Dwight Howard deserved at least one MVP during his time with the Magic?
Yup but Bron and Rose stopped him 🥲
If lebron doesn’t exist Wade, Howard, maybe even melo have a mvp
Make a video of why Steve Nash left the mavs if he could probably had a very great duo with dirk for many years
nice, i only got 1 ad
Because u have to have amazing stats and teams without having a superstar teammate
Isaac Jones Lebron won 2 in Miami
Yea this makes no sense, kd got one, lebron got 2, and plenty of others got mvps while having other stars like steph, Nash and tim Duncan
Well for Shaq he dealt with injuries that hurt his MVP case, and for Kobe he didn’t lead his team to a top 2 seed till 2008, and in 2009 and 2010 he had to compete with prime Lebron James
@@Barbwiretape While I see what you're getting at, there's a difference between having all-star teammates, and top players in the league as teammates while winning MVP. KD won in 2014, when several other PGs would be considered better than westbrook. Lebron won 2 in Miami ad D-wade declined (and people pretend bosh doesn't exist). As far as Steph, Nash and Tim Duncan, they had no superstar/top player in the league talent to take votes away from them (Klay isnt getting mvp votes in 2015 or 2016, same with Stoudemire in 05-06, and Tony Parker and Ginobili werent taking anything away from Duncan's 2 MVP seasons)
@@FAlynn92 Exactly. Hit the nail right on the head. Shaq and Kobe on the same team is like KD and Steph on the same team. It's rare to see two top 5 players together, and when it happens, those guys tend to cancel each other out.
Its because they both 3 peated....cant have everything
Miss u kobe .
The MVP is judged by the narrative of the player's season. But it was way worse in the early days of NBA were it was just a popularity vote by players.
CP3 should won It in 2008
meh i think kobe was great too but he was robbed to many times before so they gave it to him...
@@mike04574 yeah, that's the true
Cp3 lead the league in assist and steals while averaging 21 pts. Definitely robbed. Kobe does not deserve a single MVP. He was never robbed with his team finishing at the bottom of the playoff seeds.
@@MrJohnnyAOA ok whatever
@@gbarberis7402 You can't even make a solid case for your idol lol.
Andy Hoops hope you’re doing well man , but yeah truly Kobe was robbed for so many MVP accolades , but really it’s a shame he never got more tho , #RIPKobe
bruce lau he was not man
I love Kobe, but there wasn’t a single season that Kobe got robbed. That being said the MVP is an overrated award and it doesn’t matter as much for high tier legends like Kobe. We know Kobe was better than Nash, Nash just fit the MVP formula better than Kobe (again MVP is not the best player of the year award).
He wasn't robbed. How can you win MVP if you are bottom half of the playoff race?
John ask westbrook
@@thisisfaka Yeah westbrook robbed Harden big time. So?
One answer: Because they played together It's hard to win an MVP when your team is stacked That's why LeBron(playing alongside AD) and KD(playing alongside Harden and Irving) won't win MVP this season And when they actually did spilt, LeBron James matured into superstardom
It’s all the Media’s narrative that’s why Harden didn’t win it last year and don’t give me bullshit for saying that the man averaged 35 ppg and the only reason why you guys hate on Harden and love Giannis is because of the media
I'll never be able to get over Harden not winning 2019 MVP. Giannis had a good season with great numbers, but Harden had a legendary season. All the Rockets' starters + the 6th man were injured at some point including Harden. He carried an injured team in the west to the 4th seed. If Giannis's team had the injuries Harden's team had, he wouldn't have even been in the MVP conversation. Also the media keeps trying to say Harden isn't good in the playoffs. Last 2 seasons that certainly hasn't been true.
Kobe shoudl've won 4 man!!! Rip Goat scorer!!!
Bullshit. He is worth 0 MVPs
I’d rather have 4 and 5 rings than have 2 MVP,s from a failed super team any day.
Depends. If ur just some role player that did nothing on these rings, then id rather have 2 MVPs. But if I’m finals mvp or close I’d take thas
Daniel Sales salty Kobe Stan lol
Shaq was like Kobe's big terrifying brother lol He was SUPER cocky with a 7 foot monster backing him up! Those beginning years were his CONFIDENCE BUILDING years! Kobe would never have been without Shaq, I understand why Shaq went so hard at him! Shaq literally gave Kobe his heart. SHAQ IS THE REAL GOAT
I love iverson but he carried them in offense and they did their part in defense. People make it seem like iverson is a 99 which he is, carrying a bunch of 60 overalls.
Shaq should’ve won in his first year in Miami
23 and 10 is enough for MVP?
K B yes that can be. But Nash deserved the mvp he help his team passed to a 29-53 record to a 62-20 record. 33 games Improvement !!!
K B Yes, its better than 15 and 11
Facts... Shaq was robbed in 05..
Dirk has a better case than him imo. Dirk has the better individual year, his team was only one game behind the Heat, in a tougher conference, and compared to what we’ve seen from Shaq before then, there’s no way he should be considered MVP with those numbers unless his team did something historic.