Forget Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord. The true pioneers of Dutch football are HVV Den Haag. I visited their stadium in the Hague to learn more about the former Dutch champions. #football #soccer #europe
Пікірлер
The Dutch couldn''t even make a celebratory photo of the championship winning team without bicycles in the background.
@DenUitvreterАй бұрын
I noticed that too :) Even in 1906 they already loved their bicycles
@ohjajohh22 күн бұрын
@@ohjajohh How else would they get to club?
@DenUitvreter22 күн бұрын
@@DenUitvreter paard en wagen
@ohjajohh9 күн бұрын
Yes!Because they are everywhere!!More bikes in the Netherlands than people!
@jooproos65598 күн бұрын
I'm a Scot living in the Netherlands for 40yrs and I've never heard of this team and its history 😮so thanks and I will visit them soon 😊
@robbrown1790Ай бұрын
Maybe because you don't follow dutch football?
@azbakbakr54847 күн бұрын
@@azbakbakr5484or perhaps he wasnt around 110 years ago?
@BjarneKickboxing6 күн бұрын
Great video mate. Being Dutch and living in Scotland following non-league here (ST holder at Lochee United), I'm mainly subscribed to your channel for Scottish lower/non-league content. But having grown up not far from The Hague it was great to see this too.
@martenkats6915Ай бұрын
@martenkars6915 tweet tweet fur the Lochee Fleet 😂
@grahamstewart615Ай бұрын
Good old Lochee Utd.
@boabm6522Ай бұрын
video hit me hard just because i live in the hague
@f1sker99922 күн бұрын
Nice video Sam! Great to see you going to my city Den Haag! I am an ADO Den Haag supporter and there is a lot of football history in The Hague but sadly all the succes is more than 40 years ago. There are also 3 more amateur clubs in The Hague with big history. Those are HBS(3 league titles, 2 cups and 5 lost cup finals), their neighbours Quick(1 league title and 4 cups) and VUC(1 cup and 1 lost final).
@robindaleman6389Ай бұрын
Hi Sam, I was lucky enough to work in the Netherlands in the mid 00s. What a place! Your brilliant vlog was so Dutch, it brought back loads of great Duch memories!! Cheers!
@jimbobjamber9276Ай бұрын
Brilliant. The committee gentleman (name?) since 1963; wow! Respect to him. Phil came across really well and all the best to the club’s future.
@willbee6785Ай бұрын
Professional footbal was outlawed by the KNVB (FA) until 1954. The Netherlands might sometimes look pretty similar to England, we have a huge tradition and history of associations and clubs run by volunteers just for fun or the general bettering of things, including sports clubs. "Paid footbal" as would be the direct translation was long seen as corrupting the beautiful game (in hindsight, were they wrong?) and players who went to play in Italy or Spain for money have been suspended by the KNVB for the national team. It was actually a charity game organized by Dutch professionals playing in other countries to raise money for the victims of the North Sea Flood of 1935 that triggered the change. People recognized that the level of the pro's was much higher and to keep up internationally it had to change. Clubs were already paying players secretely and even doing transfers though. Great video, seems like a really lovely club and I didn't know the story at all. So just an addition because you seemed to assume that still being amateurs was an open matter to market forces and entreprise, it wasn't at all.
@DenUitvreterАй бұрын
How's it going, Sam? Great to see another visit to the Netherlands, a country with great history in the sport. This video Intrigued me learning of the 'true pioneers'.
@sirkennydalglishstandАй бұрын
Thanks mate yeah I'm all good thanks. Hope you are too. HVV are a Dutch queen's park!
@FootyAdventuresАй бұрын
before the 70s holland was famous for clogs and windmills only then suddenly famous for unbelievable football teams
@jamesirvine9493Ай бұрын
This is my childhood club, played here for 15 years
@nielswentink609616 күн бұрын
Love vids like this! I am from the Netherlands and I didn’t even know that HVV won so many league titles in the past! Amazing vid mate!
@rudibakker2102Ай бұрын
I spend a lot of time in the Netherlands and I am always impressed with the standard of the facilities that lower league and youth teams enjoy. Such a contrast to grassroots in England. A little further up our pyramid, I follow my local semi professional team in the Southern Premier League. Some of the grounds and pitches at this level are an absolute disgrace..
@roberteveleigh642Ай бұрын
The older chap (Frank) speaks remarkably good English, he puts many indigenous Brits to shame.
@lucybartley5063Ай бұрын
I’m an Aussie who knows multiple Dutch people and I can say from my own experiences that they speak better English than many people do in the English speaking world
@CodyGisselАй бұрын
They all put us to shame , Dutch ,Germans , Scandis.....not so much Latin based languages . Tell us why , experts , please .
@normanpearson875329 күн бұрын
The Netherlands holds the record for having the most English speakers per capita of any country that does not have English as the standard language. I've lived there for 33 years (English expat) and I can't remember ever meeting a Dutch person who doesn't speak it. I speak fluent Dutch, but many expats don't even bother learning it. In fact, it can be hard to learn Dutch because as soon as they hear a foreign accent, they automatically switch to English. ps. Hup AZ Alkmaar, hup!!
@emdiar658828 күн бұрын
@@normanpearson8753 I'll give it a go. Not saying I'm an "expert" but I did study languages and I'm a bit of a polyglot. Western popular culture, both in music and film, is predominantly in English. This is the direct result of the British Empire running the world for a couple of centuries, and especially being the founding source for American culture. Europeans are surrounded by English and hear it every day on TV, radio and cinema. In the UK, turn on the TV and you only ever hear English, so you don't become familiar with the sound of any other language. English is a Germanic language has more in common with languages spoken in Protestant Northern European countries. Also, UK culture is much more Germanic than it is Mediterranean. I'm English but live in the Netherlands and speak Dutch every day. In the Netherlands they have always broadcast British children's TV shows with Dutch subtitles. In Germany, they have the same shows, but dubbed into German. This is why Dutch kids learn English much quicker than German kids. The farther south you go in Europe, the less likely you are to come across English in your day-to-day life. The Romance languages (the actual name for "Latin based" languages) and people, are resistant to Anglicisation in a way that their Northern neighbours are not. The Dutch love putting English words in a sentence, whereas in France, they actually legislate AGAINST the use of English in the news, if there is an equivalent French word already. That hasn't stopped French people from looking forward to "Le weekend", and young French people hardly ever use "la fin de semaine" when planning a Friday night out. Oddly, in French speaking Canada, they do still prefer la fin de semaine, but that is probably because they are fighting to keep French alive in a country in which they are the minority. Hope that helped.
@emdiar658828 күн бұрын
@@emdiar6588 Very well put , thanks from me,,,,and tout le monde else !
@normanpearson875328 күн бұрын
Great to see your presentation on such a historic team. Lots of folks seem to think of sports only in terms of the here and now. Forgetting the history takes a lot away from the game. Great work.
@kylecorman7859Ай бұрын
I used to play for HVV’s local rivals (Graaf Willem VAC) but it’s so cool to see them here on this channel
@Aggaleiden070Ай бұрын
Then you also know VUC? That's where i played. Also a great history.
@jeffrey126927 күн бұрын
@@jeffrey1269 ja man, mooie oude tribune daar ook 👌🏻
@Aggaleiden07025 күн бұрын
Faka Bart, dat is lang geleden!
@Cooooolin19 күн бұрын
Ik voor Wilhelmus hahaha
@rubenbarensen453414 күн бұрын
Hvv Den haag truly have had a fall from grace 😢
@Thegreatmightypoo699Ай бұрын
Den Haag is the name of the city, HVV Den Haag is only one of the teams from there. The current "top" team in the city is ADO Den Haag.
@malcolmjcullenАй бұрын
@@malcolmjcullen sorry I change it
@Thegreatmightypoo699Ай бұрын
I love Dutch football so to see you make a video of Den Haag is amazing :)
@RandomHuman91Ай бұрын
Den Haag is not the name of the football team, it's HVV. Den Haag is the city.
@malcolmjcullenАй бұрын
Great video man. This is what I look for in football channels. Only missing why they are where the are now
@FontanelletjeАй бұрын
Always good to hear that Steve McLaren clip.
@davidfairhurst4074Ай бұрын
Well done! A great video. I do enjoy your club interviews and the histories of these wonderful clubs..
@billalexander2971Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video and so nice to see football history. I checked the internet: oldest football pitch in the world is at Sandygate (1860!, Hallam FC in Sheffield). Wow. Some of the first clubs in The Netherlands: HFC 1879 rugby, football since 1883 (Haarlem), Hercules 1882 cricket, football since 1889 (Utrecht), HVV 1883 (The Hague), Concordia 1885 (Delft), Go Ahead 1886 (Wageningen) fused with Victoria (1889) to become Victoria in1903, Sparta 1888 (Rotterdam), and Vitesse 1892 (Arnhem). I played for Hercules (amateur) as a child and loved the history of the club. My kid recently played against HVV and I pointed out the buildings and history to him. So nice to see how they try to maintain their history.
@peterdekoning345229 күн бұрын
How amazing that HVV were a true sporting club,not just football but other sport including cricket 🏏
@alanprior7650Ай бұрын
The first footballclubs in the Netherlands were combinations of football and cricketteams
@ivo76Ай бұрын
@@ivo76this is true of a lot of English clubs too. Football in winter, cricket in summer. My club Tottenham Hotspur started as a cricket club. I am surprised to learn that cricket was played back then in Netherlands as I thought England just exported the game to our colonies!
@Rowley_Birkin_QC29 күн бұрын
Last season I played for a different team SV Die Haghe against them and I am an international student here I didn't know much about teams I played against and my teammates told about HVV and their significance in Dutch football. It was really amazing playing against teams like this. Sadly, I do not live in the Hague anymore, hopefully in the future I will visit my old team as well as HVV 😃
@kris.markas8375Ай бұрын
Yessss finally! You came to my city and we have more in our history 😊
@RNSHKSHNАй бұрын
Great video as always, and yet another source of footballing insight. I had never heard of HVV before.
@WhiteHartDaneАй бұрын
yet another fascinating video Sam, well done
@johnbshannonАй бұрын
I heard of this before but never seen a reportage like this about the topic. Thank you, very interesting.
@casualsuspect9878Ай бұрын
What a fantastic video Sam , was very interesting as I had never heard of them keep up the great work
@user-be4fb5nz5yАй бұрын
Great video, great channel. Up there with Stunt Peg for football. This clip is fabulous, detail, history and passionate.
@philipkefford5644Ай бұрын
I have not really heard about HVV Den Haag but I am extremely so sad to see this fallen giant to be struggling like when their rivals ADO Den Haag are doing alright in this season's Dutch second division but of course,the former are have won even titles and the latter with four titles,good friends!!!This is the most shocking ever in the footballing world for them to be the amateur league but I am fully hoping to see them bouncing back slowly but will take years to be in the Dutch top four divisions but still,just hope,good friends!!!LONG LIVE HVV DEN HAAG!!!🙏🏻
@depekthegreat359Ай бұрын
they need to introduce promotion into the second teir then.
@niallfoody97Ай бұрын
this is where i used to play when i was younger! crazy to see a video about it, great job!
@fritskempeneers168628 күн бұрын
Thank you! 🙏🏼
@FootyAdventures28 күн бұрын
What i find quite sad is you dont see the likes of Ajax, psv, Feyenoord contesting European cup finals anymore. It seems like the big money clubs have a monopoly on those competitions.
@jamesmacleod67129 күн бұрын
At least Ajax have the odd run like a semi final a few years back, Eastern Europe is irrelevant in the champions league now..
@tommytornado50111 күн бұрын
The Hague dominated all anglosaxon games. Its still really good at rugby and cricket. Sadly most of the sports were hijacked by amsterdammers who would move the sports hq to amsterdam and then build national grounds in amsterdam too. Most of the rugby youth in the netherlands is from The Hague. Same for cricket.
@MarcoTheHague8 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video mate👊🏻
@SiemDegroot5 күн бұрын
It breaths history. Love this stuff. Keep it up.
@keesvogelzang458829 күн бұрын
I live in The Hague and didn't know about this...thank you! I will take a wee bike ride to check it out. Any other Dutch videos planned???? I am going to Sparta Rotterdam V Volendam in 10 days at The Castle. Can't wait! Thanks for great content always. Come to OCaseys if you're ever in Den Haag again and I'll pour you a pint. Any plans on Carrow Road/The Nest video in Norwich??? Would love to see you do talk Canary video
@canaryinthemiddleАй бұрын
Very good video! Fun fact; although it is the oldest pitch currently still in use, the first game was played in Enschede, about 10 years before HVV started.
@DavidozGamesАй бұрын
Nice to see clubs that still play for enjoyment rather than the greedy ,win at all costs and fans are seen as ATM s attitude ,we see from premier league clubs these days These are the kind of clubs that more money should come down the football pyramid to help out .
@TheWully0929 күн бұрын
I love your videos and you always do a great job. I wish you would go back to Portugal and do a video on Casa Pia AC . They are the third Lisbon team atm in the top flight and have a very interesting history that goes back to 1890's. The club is named after a children's charity and was in the 5th division of Portuguese footy in 2007 returning to the first division in 2022 some 80 years since their last appearance in it. Crazy story, also current Sporting and potential Liverpool coach Ruben Amorim has a connection and short tenure with that club, technically.
@romanmedina3543Ай бұрын
I support Vitesse Arnhem. We are the second oldest professional football club in the Netherlands. Unfortunately we never became champions. We were close a number of times. We came closest in 1914. We were champions of the East and played for the national championship with the champion of the South, Willem II, and the champion of the West, HVV. In the decisive match against HVV, a draw was sufficient for us. At 1-1 we missed a penalty, in the last minutes of the match HVV scored 1-2 and Vitesse missed out on the title. Now 110 years later, my beautiful Vitesse is in bad shape. Partly due to mismanagement at both sporting and administrative levels, my club was relegated after 35 consecutive years of playing at the highest level. We had a penalty where 18 points were deducted. But even worse, there is even a chance that my club will lose its license for professional football. Perhaps Vitesse will one day be able to take revenge on HVV as a amateur team. Every disadvantage has its advantage, albeit Cruijff.
@dirkb97883 күн бұрын
There's a bunch of these clubs like DWS in Europe in the late 60's and now they are like 8th tier, de Volewijckers who were champions and the phoenix club started in like the 11th tier and are still nothing
@thomaskoopman3776Ай бұрын
I’m from the Netherlands and I’m a huge football fan, but had no clue about this. Thanks
@Giusie7910 күн бұрын
Awesome story Sam! Love u seeing in the most beautiful country in the world 😉🇳🇱
@GroundhopperFCАй бұрын
Nice to see Dunfermline local Andrew Carnegie make an appearance at 11:34 👍
@robertmoore393Ай бұрын
I watch you everyday your videos literally make me sleep 😂
@HibernianFV1902Ай бұрын
What a fabulous and interesting vlog.
@amc5966Ай бұрын
I'm playing against their first team on Saturday for my club! Crazy to think about.
@lucaguariglia188711 күн бұрын
HVV plays at 7th level nowadays. Dutch league system is a bit weird because there is no promotion/relegation between 2nd and 3rd level
@tammo100Ай бұрын
As Dutch teenager, i love this video! I played against this club this year so its fun to see!
@zakelijkecroissant16 күн бұрын
Waar speel je
@rubenbarensen453414 күн бұрын
@@rubenbarensen4534 Quick Boys
@zakelijkecroissant13 күн бұрын
Do Corinthian-Casuals when you're next in Surrey, Sam. They once made up the entire England squad back in the day but back to back relegations now sees them in Step 7 of the English non-league football pyramid. Their story is right up your street. Shirt sales to Brazil is a signifantly sized and much valued revenue stream.
@garyweir8587Ай бұрын
Nice history ! (one correction, i think you meant to write the flood disaster of 1956, where 1600 people died in the province of Zeeland, not 1935)
@martijn_ytАй бұрын
Dat was in 1953 trouwens….😉
@knorrie6328 күн бұрын
Brilliant... i learnt a lot!
@benitolazio8193Ай бұрын
Great video Sam!
@dukaimivanderzwaag47299 күн бұрын
Great video, you should visit the cambuur stadium before it gets demolished!
@T.W.K.199321 күн бұрын
I'll definitely try!
@FootyAdventures21 күн бұрын
@@FootyAdventures thank you for trying, you would love the oldskool feel the ground has. With a lot of history! The last match on the 10th of May will be insane, I will be there, but it is sold out already...
@T.W.K.199321 күн бұрын
Wonderful film, i used to live in the Netherlands and got to see fc Utrecht occasionally. 👍⚒️
@alex-E7WHUАй бұрын
Brit in NL here. I’ve played cricket there. I didn’t realise the famous footballing history they have. It’s not widely appreciated in the UK just how late Dutch football became professional. Pro contracts only started to become a feature in the 1950’s and didn’t become the norm until the 1960’s.
@GorgeDawes27 күн бұрын
Watched, liked, subscribed!
@no_one_of_that_name_hereАй бұрын
Cheers, thank you, thanks!
@FootyAdventuresАй бұрын
Another great video again buddie.
@georgeedmiston5280Ай бұрын
There‘s FC Nuremberg. They‘ve relegated just 1 season after winning the league in the 60s. They‘ve since been the only ones ever being able to bottle a league win so hard. In 2007 they did the same thing again, and relegated after winning the german DFB cup. They still have the 2nd most league wins in Germany, and currently face the 5th consecutive season in league 2, while being on the lower end of the table. As I‘m a fan myself I just pray that we don‘t fall down like many other old successors did. I wanna be able to watch games even when I‘m 80.
@ju.ice-der-boi28 күн бұрын
There's one of these in most leagues - Aston Villa in England 6 of their 7 tiles came before 1910. They won 6 of the first 21 then 1 in the last 115 years. - Genoa in Italy The most titles barring the big 3 but none for literally 100 years. As well as Pro Vercelli.
@labr7414Ай бұрын
Hvv denhaag was founded in 1883. Between 1891 and 1914 they won 10 championships. In 1932 they fell from highest division. Now they play 1e class (under 4th division)
@alexanderbreston9918Ай бұрын
Great video. Never realised they have 10 league titles and are just behind the three big clubs.
@peter51171Ай бұрын
Not a fall from grace. A great story though.
@jamesbenstead1006Ай бұрын
Love the story reveal in the toilet of an easyJet plane. Classy.
@chrischarman8707Ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@FootyAdventuresАй бұрын
We can see this a lot in English football. Not on this scale of course, all league winners since 1888 in England are in the top 2 divisions however when you look at the FA Cup we have Bury who had their golden period in the Edwardian period, The Wanderers who have 6 FA Cup titles the same as Newcastle more than Everton. It’s why I love that period of football across Europe
@kaihiggins72528 күн бұрын
The Hague had a lot of great football clubs in the "only amateur" era. And some of these clubs were more for the upper echalon in the community and they considered it inferior to be paid to play football. So when Professional football was introduced in 1953, they opted to stay amateur clubs, 3 of these clubs in The Hague are HVV, HBS and Quick. Still very well known clubs in The Hague.
@randolacle28 күн бұрын
It would be interesting if ten Hag was coaching Den Haag :D
@lkrnpk29 күн бұрын
Awesome video!
@baspauw4958Ай бұрын
Great video from another country 👏
@ryanoconnor5612Ай бұрын
Wow, this club would be a fun club to play in football manager
@Min14100Ай бұрын
The International Peace Palace that you featured, home of the International Court of Justice, was paid for by Scottish philanthropist Andrew Carnegie, which is why there was an information board about him. The little visitor centre there is well worth a browse.
@gordon154525 күн бұрын
Well you certainly surprised this Dutchman. I thought you were going to HFC Haarlem, HVV didn't cross my mind.
@martijnkosters9024Ай бұрын
I’ve since heard about Haarlem. Will need to visit them next time I come!
@FootyAdventuresАй бұрын
This is a fascinating story
@GenialHarryGroutАй бұрын
Always a great film
@caltblake6112Ай бұрын
Manchester United outclassed by a Dutch non-league team, you got to love it!
@Suspended.Solitude3 сағат бұрын
Zuid Holland. Noord Holland is Amsterdam and beyond...love The Netherlands.
@tdtm82Ай бұрын
Noord Holland is Haarlem
@robindaleman6389Ай бұрын
@@robindaleman6389 I have been..yup
@tdtm82Ай бұрын
Go to Csepel SC, at Budapest Hungary. 4 first tier title, currently in non league (Budapest first div.) oooooh and to make it more funny: no its 2 teams enteres with the same Csepel name and Csepel logo.
@ZakkWyldeman29 күн бұрын
6:15 Ballotagecommissie 😊
@rankobarensicАй бұрын
nice one, but pity you didnt check weather first 😆
@williamthompson294128 күн бұрын
Not sure if you have been but have you ever gone to the last piece of the old Wembley stadium
@Tpay6789Ай бұрын
this is incorrect, because the eredivie was from the beginning of professional football onwards....
@user-zh7et7ze6kАй бұрын
Bidor Botani in Malaysia...also non leaguers ...to stay a float each year is like a nightmare...kids who suffers....
@niksyakhina631122 күн бұрын
I see you read my comment on the pro vercelli video
@frisianprideworldwideАй бұрын
Nice little stadium
@kevinrobb86Ай бұрын
Great to hear Dutch legend Schteeve Meeklaren at the start
@TheAnfieldLarkАй бұрын
I'm going to not count it if it's because they didn't go professional, like Queens Park.
@ccityplanner1217Ай бұрын
Where is the Stadium?
@JustancfcfanАй бұрын
Go to Genoa too.
@labr7414Ай бұрын
When i lived in Holland Den Haags fans were so bad they couldn't find a shirt sponsor!!
@russell-di8js7 күн бұрын
AFC DWS next? (Sorry, didn't realize you had done this already.)
@KanJonathan28 күн бұрын
I'm Dutch and I even didn't know all this
@ohjajohh22 күн бұрын
Nver order a Amstel beer again, order hertog jan XD
@Joefusz21 күн бұрын
You will find AB in Denmark if you wanna see another team falling from grace :D
@kaspernielsen9149Ай бұрын
if im not mistaken only the eredivisie is a payed league,some clubs in the 2nd division who used to play in the eredivisie do ofc pay their players,but there are still certain club even in the 2nd division where the footballers either arn't payed or little to none
@maxgamingyt3175Ай бұрын
my mistake i meant the 3rd division,not the 2nd
@maxgamingyt3175Ай бұрын
Who are for ADO Den Haag 👇
@SVETI_gaming10 күн бұрын
Interesting enjoyed that from Wolves fan
@user-dc2ww4of2b27 күн бұрын
❤
@steveburnham8755Ай бұрын
I saw the thumbnail and the date posted and thought it might be Vitesse, even if they weren't 10 times champion. Haha
The Dutch couldn''t even make a celebratory photo of the championship winning team without bicycles in the background.
I noticed that too :) Even in 1906 they already loved their bicycles
@@ohjajohh How else would they get to club?
@@DenUitvreter paard en wagen
Yes!Because they are everywhere!!More bikes in the Netherlands than people!
I'm a Scot living in the Netherlands for 40yrs and I've never heard of this team and its history 😮so thanks and I will visit them soon 😊
Maybe because you don't follow dutch football?
@@azbakbakr5484or perhaps he wasnt around 110 years ago?
Great video mate. Being Dutch and living in Scotland following non-league here (ST holder at Lochee United), I'm mainly subscribed to your channel for Scottish lower/non-league content. But having grown up not far from The Hague it was great to see this too.
@martenkars6915 tweet tweet fur the Lochee Fleet 😂
Good old Lochee Utd.
video hit me hard just because i live in the hague
Nice video Sam! Great to see you going to my city Den Haag! I am an ADO Den Haag supporter and there is a lot of football history in The Hague but sadly all the succes is more than 40 years ago. There are also 3 more amateur clubs in The Hague with big history. Those are HBS(3 league titles, 2 cups and 5 lost cup finals), their neighbours Quick(1 league title and 4 cups) and VUC(1 cup and 1 lost final).
Hi Sam, I was lucky enough to work in the Netherlands in the mid 00s. What a place! Your brilliant vlog was so Dutch, it brought back loads of great Duch memories!! Cheers!
Brilliant. The committee gentleman (name?) since 1963; wow! Respect to him. Phil came across really well and all the best to the club’s future.
Professional footbal was outlawed by the KNVB (FA) until 1954. The Netherlands might sometimes look pretty similar to England, we have a huge tradition and history of associations and clubs run by volunteers just for fun or the general bettering of things, including sports clubs. "Paid footbal" as would be the direct translation was long seen as corrupting the beautiful game (in hindsight, were they wrong?) and players who went to play in Italy or Spain for money have been suspended by the KNVB for the national team. It was actually a charity game organized by Dutch professionals playing in other countries to raise money for the victims of the North Sea Flood of 1935 that triggered the change. People recognized that the level of the pro's was much higher and to keep up internationally it had to change. Clubs were already paying players secretely and even doing transfers though. Great video, seems like a really lovely club and I didn't know the story at all. So just an addition because you seemed to assume that still being amateurs was an open matter to market forces and entreprise, it wasn't at all.
How's it going, Sam? Great to see another visit to the Netherlands, a country with great history in the sport. This video Intrigued me learning of the 'true pioneers'.
Thanks mate yeah I'm all good thanks. Hope you are too. HVV are a Dutch queen's park!
before the 70s holland was famous for clogs and windmills only then suddenly famous for unbelievable football teams
This is my childhood club, played here for 15 years
Love vids like this! I am from the Netherlands and I didn’t even know that HVV won so many league titles in the past! Amazing vid mate!
I spend a lot of time in the Netherlands and I am always impressed with the standard of the facilities that lower league and youth teams enjoy. Such a contrast to grassroots in England. A little further up our pyramid, I follow my local semi professional team in the Southern Premier League. Some of the grounds and pitches at this level are an absolute disgrace..
The older chap (Frank) speaks remarkably good English, he puts many indigenous Brits to shame.
I’m an Aussie who knows multiple Dutch people and I can say from my own experiences that they speak better English than many people do in the English speaking world
They all put us to shame , Dutch ,Germans , Scandis.....not so much Latin based languages . Tell us why , experts , please .
The Netherlands holds the record for having the most English speakers per capita of any country that does not have English as the standard language. I've lived there for 33 years (English expat) and I can't remember ever meeting a Dutch person who doesn't speak it. I speak fluent Dutch, but many expats don't even bother learning it. In fact, it can be hard to learn Dutch because as soon as they hear a foreign accent, they automatically switch to English. ps. Hup AZ Alkmaar, hup!!
@@normanpearson8753 I'll give it a go. Not saying I'm an "expert" but I did study languages and I'm a bit of a polyglot. Western popular culture, both in music and film, is predominantly in English. This is the direct result of the British Empire running the world for a couple of centuries, and especially being the founding source for American culture. Europeans are surrounded by English and hear it every day on TV, radio and cinema. In the UK, turn on the TV and you only ever hear English, so you don't become familiar with the sound of any other language. English is a Germanic language has more in common with languages spoken in Protestant Northern European countries. Also, UK culture is much more Germanic than it is Mediterranean. I'm English but live in the Netherlands and speak Dutch every day. In the Netherlands they have always broadcast British children's TV shows with Dutch subtitles. In Germany, they have the same shows, but dubbed into German. This is why Dutch kids learn English much quicker than German kids. The farther south you go in Europe, the less likely you are to come across English in your day-to-day life. The Romance languages (the actual name for "Latin based" languages) and people, are resistant to Anglicisation in a way that their Northern neighbours are not. The Dutch love putting English words in a sentence, whereas in France, they actually legislate AGAINST the use of English in the news, if there is an equivalent French word already. That hasn't stopped French people from looking forward to "Le weekend", and young French people hardly ever use "la fin de semaine" when planning a Friday night out. Oddly, in French speaking Canada, they do still prefer la fin de semaine, but that is probably because they are fighting to keep French alive in a country in which they are the minority. Hope that helped.
@@emdiar6588 Very well put , thanks from me,,,,and tout le monde else !
Great to see your presentation on such a historic team. Lots of folks seem to think of sports only in terms of the here and now. Forgetting the history takes a lot away from the game. Great work.
I used to play for HVV’s local rivals (Graaf Willem VAC) but it’s so cool to see them here on this channel
Then you also know VUC? That's where i played. Also a great history.
@@jeffrey1269 ja man, mooie oude tribune daar ook 👌🏻
Faka Bart, dat is lang geleden!
Ik voor Wilhelmus hahaha
Hvv Den haag truly have had a fall from grace 😢
Den Haag is the name of the city, HVV Den Haag is only one of the teams from there. The current "top" team in the city is ADO Den Haag.
@@malcolmjcullen sorry I change it
I love Dutch football so to see you make a video of Den Haag is amazing :)
Den Haag is not the name of the football team, it's HVV. Den Haag is the city.
Great video man. This is what I look for in football channels. Only missing why they are where the are now
Always good to hear that Steve McLaren clip.
Well done! A great video. I do enjoy your club interviews and the histories of these wonderful clubs..
Thanks for the video and so nice to see football history. I checked the internet: oldest football pitch in the world is at Sandygate (1860!, Hallam FC in Sheffield). Wow. Some of the first clubs in The Netherlands: HFC 1879 rugby, football since 1883 (Haarlem), Hercules 1882 cricket, football since 1889 (Utrecht), HVV 1883 (The Hague), Concordia 1885 (Delft), Go Ahead 1886 (Wageningen) fused with Victoria (1889) to become Victoria in1903, Sparta 1888 (Rotterdam), and Vitesse 1892 (Arnhem). I played for Hercules (amateur) as a child and loved the history of the club. My kid recently played against HVV and I pointed out the buildings and history to him. So nice to see how they try to maintain their history.
How amazing that HVV were a true sporting club,not just football but other sport including cricket 🏏
The first footballclubs in the Netherlands were combinations of football and cricketteams
@@ivo76this is true of a lot of English clubs too. Football in winter, cricket in summer. My club Tottenham Hotspur started as a cricket club. I am surprised to learn that cricket was played back then in Netherlands as I thought England just exported the game to our colonies!
Last season I played for a different team SV Die Haghe against them and I am an international student here I didn't know much about teams I played against and my teammates told about HVV and their significance in Dutch football. It was really amazing playing against teams like this. Sadly, I do not live in the Hague anymore, hopefully in the future I will visit my old team as well as HVV 😃
Yessss finally! You came to my city and we have more in our history 😊
Great video as always, and yet another source of footballing insight. I had never heard of HVV before.
yet another fascinating video Sam, well done
I heard of this before but never seen a reportage like this about the topic. Thank you, very interesting.
What a fantastic video Sam , was very interesting as I had never heard of them keep up the great work
Great video, great channel. Up there with Stunt Peg for football. This clip is fabulous, detail, history and passionate.
I have not really heard about HVV Den Haag but I am extremely so sad to see this fallen giant to be struggling like when their rivals ADO Den Haag are doing alright in this season's Dutch second division but of course,the former are have won even titles and the latter with four titles,good friends!!!This is the most shocking ever in the footballing world for them to be the amateur league but I am fully hoping to see them bouncing back slowly but will take years to be in the Dutch top four divisions but still,just hope,good friends!!!LONG LIVE HVV DEN HAAG!!!🙏🏻
they need to introduce promotion into the second teir then.
this is where i used to play when i was younger! crazy to see a video about it, great job!
Thank you! 🙏🏼
What i find quite sad is you dont see the likes of Ajax, psv, Feyenoord contesting European cup finals anymore. It seems like the big money clubs have a monopoly on those competitions.
At least Ajax have the odd run like a semi final a few years back, Eastern Europe is irrelevant in the champions league now..
The Hague dominated all anglosaxon games. Its still really good at rugby and cricket. Sadly most of the sports were hijacked by amsterdammers who would move the sports hq to amsterdam and then build national grounds in amsterdam too. Most of the rugby youth in the netherlands is from The Hague. Same for cricket.
Thanks for this video mate👊🏻
It breaths history. Love this stuff. Keep it up.
I live in The Hague and didn't know about this...thank you! I will take a wee bike ride to check it out. Any other Dutch videos planned???? I am going to Sparta Rotterdam V Volendam in 10 days at The Castle. Can't wait! Thanks for great content always. Come to OCaseys if you're ever in Den Haag again and I'll pour you a pint. Any plans on Carrow Road/The Nest video in Norwich??? Would love to see you do talk Canary video
Very good video! Fun fact; although it is the oldest pitch currently still in use, the first game was played in Enschede, about 10 years before HVV started.
Nice to see clubs that still play for enjoyment rather than the greedy ,win at all costs and fans are seen as ATM s attitude ,we see from premier league clubs these days These are the kind of clubs that more money should come down the football pyramid to help out .
I love your videos and you always do a great job. I wish you would go back to Portugal and do a video on Casa Pia AC . They are the third Lisbon team atm in the top flight and have a very interesting history that goes back to 1890's. The club is named after a children's charity and was in the 5th division of Portuguese footy in 2007 returning to the first division in 2022 some 80 years since their last appearance in it. Crazy story, also current Sporting and potential Liverpool coach Ruben Amorim has a connection and short tenure with that club, technically.
I support Vitesse Arnhem. We are the second oldest professional football club in the Netherlands. Unfortunately we never became champions. We were close a number of times. We came closest in 1914. We were champions of the East and played for the national championship with the champion of the South, Willem II, and the champion of the West, HVV. In the decisive match against HVV, a draw was sufficient for us. At 1-1 we missed a penalty, in the last minutes of the match HVV scored 1-2 and Vitesse missed out on the title. Now 110 years later, my beautiful Vitesse is in bad shape. Partly due to mismanagement at both sporting and administrative levels, my club was relegated after 35 consecutive years of playing at the highest level. We had a penalty where 18 points were deducted. But even worse, there is even a chance that my club will lose its license for professional football. Perhaps Vitesse will one day be able to take revenge on HVV as a amateur team. Every disadvantage has its advantage, albeit Cruijff.
There's a bunch of these clubs like DWS in Europe in the late 60's and now they are like 8th tier, de Volewijckers who were champions and the phoenix club started in like the 11th tier and are still nothing
I’m from the Netherlands and I’m a huge football fan, but had no clue about this. Thanks
Awesome story Sam! Love u seeing in the most beautiful country in the world 😉🇳🇱
Nice to see Dunfermline local Andrew Carnegie make an appearance at 11:34 👍
I watch you everyday your videos literally make me sleep 😂
What a fabulous and interesting vlog.
I'm playing against their first team on Saturday for my club! Crazy to think about.
HVV plays at 7th level nowadays. Dutch league system is a bit weird because there is no promotion/relegation between 2nd and 3rd level
As Dutch teenager, i love this video! I played against this club this year so its fun to see!
Waar speel je
@@rubenbarensen4534 Quick Boys
Do Corinthian-Casuals when you're next in Surrey, Sam. They once made up the entire England squad back in the day but back to back relegations now sees them in Step 7 of the English non-league football pyramid. Their story is right up your street. Shirt sales to Brazil is a signifantly sized and much valued revenue stream.
Nice history ! (one correction, i think you meant to write the flood disaster of 1956, where 1600 people died in the province of Zeeland, not 1935)
Dat was in 1953 trouwens….😉
Brilliant... i learnt a lot!
Great video Sam!
Great video, you should visit the cambuur stadium before it gets demolished!
I'll definitely try!
@@FootyAdventures thank you for trying, you would love the oldskool feel the ground has. With a lot of history! The last match on the 10th of May will be insane, I will be there, but it is sold out already...
Wonderful film, i used to live in the Netherlands and got to see fc Utrecht occasionally. 👍⚒️
Brit in NL here. I’ve played cricket there. I didn’t realise the famous footballing history they have. It’s not widely appreciated in the UK just how late Dutch football became professional. Pro contracts only started to become a feature in the 1950’s and didn’t become the norm until the 1960’s.
Watched, liked, subscribed!
Cheers, thank you, thanks!
Another great video again buddie.
There‘s FC Nuremberg. They‘ve relegated just 1 season after winning the league in the 60s. They‘ve since been the only ones ever being able to bottle a league win so hard. In 2007 they did the same thing again, and relegated after winning the german DFB cup. They still have the 2nd most league wins in Germany, and currently face the 5th consecutive season in league 2, while being on the lower end of the table. As I‘m a fan myself I just pray that we don‘t fall down like many other old successors did. I wanna be able to watch games even when I‘m 80.
There's one of these in most leagues - Aston Villa in England 6 of their 7 tiles came before 1910. They won 6 of the first 21 then 1 in the last 115 years. - Genoa in Italy The most titles barring the big 3 but none for literally 100 years. As well as Pro Vercelli.
Hvv denhaag was founded in 1883. Between 1891 and 1914 they won 10 championships. In 1932 they fell from highest division. Now they play 1e class (under 4th division)
Great video. Never realised they have 10 league titles and are just behind the three big clubs.
Not a fall from grace. A great story though.
Love the story reveal in the toilet of an easyJet plane. Classy.
🤣🤣
We can see this a lot in English football. Not on this scale of course, all league winners since 1888 in England are in the top 2 divisions however when you look at the FA Cup we have Bury who had their golden period in the Edwardian period, The Wanderers who have 6 FA Cup titles the same as Newcastle more than Everton. It’s why I love that period of football across Europe
The Hague had a lot of great football clubs in the "only amateur" era. And some of these clubs were more for the upper echalon in the community and they considered it inferior to be paid to play football. So when Professional football was introduced in 1953, they opted to stay amateur clubs, 3 of these clubs in The Hague are HVV, HBS and Quick. Still very well known clubs in The Hague.
It would be interesting if ten Hag was coaching Den Haag :D
Awesome video!
Great video from another country 👏
Wow, this club would be a fun club to play in football manager
The International Peace Palace that you featured, home of the International Court of Justice, was paid for by Scottish philanthropist Andrew Carnegie, which is why there was an information board about him. The little visitor centre there is well worth a browse.
Well you certainly surprised this Dutchman. I thought you were going to HFC Haarlem, HVV didn't cross my mind.
I’ve since heard about Haarlem. Will need to visit them next time I come!
This is a fascinating story
Always a great film
Manchester United outclassed by a Dutch non-league team, you got to love it!
Zuid Holland. Noord Holland is Amsterdam and beyond...love The Netherlands.
Noord Holland is Haarlem
@@robindaleman6389 I have been..yup
Go to Csepel SC, at Budapest Hungary. 4 first tier title, currently in non league (Budapest first div.) oooooh and to make it more funny: no its 2 teams enteres with the same Csepel name and Csepel logo.
6:15 Ballotagecommissie 😊
nice one, but pity you didnt check weather first 😆
Not sure if you have been but have you ever gone to the last piece of the old Wembley stadium
this is incorrect, because the eredivie was from the beginning of professional football onwards....
Bidor Botani in Malaysia...also non leaguers ...to stay a float each year is like a nightmare...kids who suffers....
I see you read my comment on the pro vercelli video
Nice little stadium
Great to hear Dutch legend Schteeve Meeklaren at the start
I'm going to not count it if it's because they didn't go professional, like Queens Park.
Where is the Stadium?
Go to Genoa too.
When i lived in Holland Den Haags fans were so bad they couldn't find a shirt sponsor!!
AFC DWS next? (Sorry, didn't realize you had done this already.)
I'm Dutch and I even didn't know all this
Nver order a Amstel beer again, order hertog jan XD
You will find AB in Denmark if you wanna see another team falling from grace :D
if im not mistaken only the eredivisie is a payed league,some clubs in the 2nd division who used to play in the eredivisie do ofc pay their players,but there are still certain club even in the 2nd division where the footballers either arn't payed or little to none
my mistake i meant the 3rd division,not the 2nd
Who are for ADO Den Haag 👇
Interesting enjoyed that from Wolves fan
❤
I saw the thumbnail and the date posted and thought it might be Vitesse, even if they weren't 10 times champion. Haha
Wow, that lads spoken English is really good.
I love the Netherlands
I have played there before i had no idea 💀