Ma Long vs. Lin Gaoyuan Men's World Cup 2024 Tactical Breakdown Tactical Analysis Ma Long the GOAT
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This was one of the most succinct, thorough, and accurate analysis videos I've seen. Very well done!
@KRUIofficial15 күн бұрын
cant believe you have that less subscribers, as a chinese myself playing on professional level, i find this video so accurate and make sense
@bruhhyjay728014 күн бұрын
Youre chinese
@vinhziger696814 күн бұрын
Xu Xin actually made a video about this game. He said exactly the same😂 The last time Ma Long made a backhand serve was 3 years ago
@user-tj8ii4ie1z14 күн бұрын
Can you send link of that video
@shikhararora519914 күн бұрын
It’s like on Chinese video platform yk? Bc im Chinese and play table tennis, my mum like to watch these videos. Its not on youtube sorry
@user-tj8ii4ie1z14 күн бұрын
@user-tj8ii4ie1z I play tt too and follow all tournaments
@shikhararora519914 күн бұрын
wheres the video
@Azazel_Woodwind14 күн бұрын
@@Azazel_Woodwind as i said its not on youtube but on chinese apps
@user-tj8ii4ie1z14 күн бұрын
Ma Long after losing 3 straight sets. "I'm going to backhand serve my way to victory."
@kyadabs14 күн бұрын
Ma Long doesn't need any coach he knows table tennis better than the coach and could be a coach later himself
@rogernguyen127314 күн бұрын
He does, a couch would have noticed those things sooner and probably would not lead to a 0:3 start, even if he knows so much, coaches are faster to realize those things
@christianhaala200614 күн бұрын
A second pair of eyes from the third POV doesn't hurt.
@saleem299114 күн бұрын
I doubt anyone is capable of following Ma Long's advices
@l2qz71113 күн бұрын
please break down mang chuqin malong 4-0. well done video
@soezarnitun956114 күн бұрын
Yeah that match. And also the match when ma long flipped his bat against Liang, he lost the match but almost make it to win. 😅
@GeraldoSebastianAL14 күн бұрын
wang not mang
@myan-tv6pi13 күн бұрын
Ma Long The Dragon! The Captain! The Dictator! The Hexagon Warrior! The Most Complete Player! The Master of All Techniques and Tactics! The Walking Table Tennis Textbook! The Genius! The King of Epic Plays! The Winning Machine! The Record Breaker! The History Maker! The Most Accomplished Table Tennis Player! The Table Tennis GOAT!
@ShaibaniAmeril14 күн бұрын
Ma Long is super!
@reimosaar719710 күн бұрын
Excellent analyze. Thanks for uploading.
@petrusincraian1987 күн бұрын
Insane game.
@omerperetz842614 күн бұрын
There is also one more element, which was especially visible against Wang Chiqin: Ma Long was very relaxed, while his opponents were tense, they were repeatedly overdoing with their shots, playing too strong, as Ma Long didn't "want to miss" and often missed themselves. Ma was under no pressure to prove anything and this also paid off. One more element playing some role was also Lin's psyche, It's not the first time he's struggled with the problem of closing a match, and years later it still haunts him. I think this is the main reason he will never be considered by the Chinese coaches as the first choice for their team in the greatest tournaments.
@Gobio214 күн бұрын
Very nice video, could you also make one about the match vs wang chuqin? I am really interested in your thoughts about it :)
@zhangming579214 күн бұрын
Impressive victory from the champ. I really enjoyed this video, your style is easy to understand and not obnoxious.
@smallman978714 күн бұрын
Please more of these Videos! So useful. Thank you!
@deinemutter206112 күн бұрын
1:04 Ma Long's fh top spin movement starts with the racket low and back, and the shoulders rotated 90°.
@HakuCell8 күн бұрын
its so accurate❤ subscribed
@user-tj8ii4ie1z14 күн бұрын
Great video thanks
@loukas37114 күн бұрын
Very interesting, great format!
@dj1jesus37514 күн бұрын
Best analysis. To the point and no rubbish talk
@amjadmehboob48014 күн бұрын
it was not just the backhand serve he introduced but also the backhand slam: finishing ralleys with straight backhand shots. So Ma Long did during the game what Lin did after the serve: reverting to backhand. Although Ma Long did this more in the game against Wang in semis
@olafhermans13 күн бұрын
These tactics are the same I’ve been telling players I coach when they play against a left handed player (or lefty verse righty), and is something I wish ma long did, and I’m glad he did. The biggest advantage is short forehand wide backhand. It’s the furthest to cover in the table.
@AndrewUdal14 күн бұрын
At around 0:30 you said that Ma long takes his first singels worldcup title but this is his third singels world cup title. He won in 2012,2015 and now in 2024.
@TheAz15914313 күн бұрын
Good job man, great analysis
@nacho.m.f11 күн бұрын
😘😍😎Dragon Legend Captain Ma Long🎉😂❤
@joeywong-ly7ms14 күн бұрын
Excellent analysis
@ishikadube14 күн бұрын
Ma Long has captured two World Cup Singles Champion twice before this year, so this is not his first.
@qwejss13 күн бұрын
Not dissimilar in his change of strategy against FzD in the 2017 world championship. Absolute master class.
@mrmr196412 күн бұрын
great video
@SirCarmelli13 күн бұрын
Ma Long❤❤🎉🎉🏓🏓
@patrikhrabaj649916 күн бұрын
Ma Long's blocking game reminds me a lot of Waldner.
@TheVampB9 күн бұрын
Was great match
@reubenbalkumar358514 күн бұрын
he changed his usual game in the semi against wang from the beginning on !!!!
@echris45914 күн бұрын
Lol I though ma long doing some zesty ahh crossing ballet leg thing in the thumbnail
@officialsasukeyt14 күн бұрын
refreshing... finally someone who analyzed it correctly. U have good understanding of the game, just like myself
@table_tennis_fever14 күн бұрын
Great analysis. But I don't understand why would BH serve make a difference, he was generating the same kind of spin with reverse pendulum (side spin in the direction of Lin's BH side). Why doesn't reverse pendulum allow him to stay away from the table to receive Lin's banana flick? He can also hide the backspin or topspin in both of the serves, so I don't get it how could that possibly help him?
@deepbhadja573014 күн бұрын
With backhand serve, the ball is played in front of the body. This is not the problem it used to be since you cannot hide the ball from your opponent with your body. You can stand closer to the center of the table. There is less movement required after the serve to position yourself for the next ball. Not as much wide forehand to cover. Your backhand must be good for 3rd ball, but Ma Long has good block and counter. See Jorgic and Ovtcharov who play effective backhand serve. Sometimes just playing something different your opponent hasn't seen before from you is enough to affect his expectations and break up his rhythm giving you the advantage.
@user-oj6dl1ck9r14 күн бұрын
@user-oj6dl1ck9r hm. Although I agree with changing your playing style to break the opponent's rhythm, I don't think you can't stay at the centre of the table with reverse pendulum. You still hit it below and in front of your chest while bowing a bit. That doesn't prevent you from not being in the centre, players just doesn't serve it in the centre because with their momentum while serving, they move a bit towards the centre after serve. And about requiring less movement, we can say players struggle to be stable again but I don't think anyone at Ma Long's level is even bothered by it, they can adjust themselves according to their serves.
@deepbhadja573014 күн бұрын
@@user-oj6dl1ck9rMa Long's 3rd BH is very good, though, not just his block and counter. He has a very consistent chiquita and easily does a BH topspin against a long push.
@saleem299114 күн бұрын
I think the difference is literally a single step, with the backhand serve if you would notice ma long is already positioned slightly in the middle and a step away from the table to give himself more table coverage, if he were to do a reverse pen he would need to take a step or two to position himself. This is especially significant when playing at their pace. I am only from my experience and observation tho, there may be other plausable explanation.
@brianleamba36357 күн бұрын
First world cup title?? This his third win of world cup bro
@zizo01514 күн бұрын
I think it’s a load of BS. Ma Long really wanted to win because it’s been a long time since the final wasn’t FZD or WCQ. Sure there were few plays where he was just blocking but this has been the most aggressive play from ML in a long time. He plays almost like a young ML with the occasional rest in between because he’s freaking old.
@kenji278714 күн бұрын
You have no idea what u are talking about
@shikhararora519914 күн бұрын
He was blocking a lot more, and has developed a new backhand block which goes to the opponent's deep backhand corner that he has rarely done before. He changed his service pattern, you would have to have noticed that, at least?
@HDSPKSRecords-gi1ob14 күн бұрын
The fuck are you on? He does not “developed” that backhand service. That backhand service is one of the most basic services. Ma Long tries everything when he’s losing, including changing service. He has changed to that service in the past. Most, if not all, players also do this. Fun fact: Felix rarely change to the same service ML is using when he loses! Dimittij also changes to the same services but he does that much more often. The deep corner return is because LGY’s attack deep to his backhand... The only thing he developed is a better backhand which lets him return the ball to where he likes without losing points. He usually just blocks it and loses points on backhands. He has never gotten an “attacking” backhand
@kenji278713 күн бұрын
Nice clip but the analysis is wrong. Lin Guan and Wong Shuqin are two different players with different equipment. Wong Shuqin has a hard racket and rubbers like Ma Long's which are suitable for strong hits, Ma Long was able to beat Wong Shuqin (world num 1)in a match of strong hits so age has nothing to do with it. Lin Giuang plays with softer equipment that is suitable for weaker balls and closer to the table, similar to a girls' game where they play a fast but not strong exchange of shots, therefore it was difficult for Ma Long to match Lin Giuang's relatively weak pace, certainly after two games with a strong pace shoots against Wang Shuqin and felicis Lebron. Ma Long played exactly in the classical Chinese style that requires adaptation to the game situation after he understands it while playing. It's a shame that people are not aware of the different types of equipment and their effect on the game. Other than that it's a beautiful video
@nadav.sh8514 күн бұрын
Considering who he won against, it really isn't as impressive. Lin Gaoyuan is pretty well known for choking when closing out games.
@apflor32314 күн бұрын
But he just beat wang chuquin in the semifinals. That's impressive I guess.
@virendrakshirsagar644314 күн бұрын
@@virendrakshirsagar6443 that is impressive.... But this video is focused on Lin Gaoyuan
@apflor32314 күн бұрын
@@apflor323yeah right
@virendrakshirsagar644314 күн бұрын
Lin Gaoyuan was playing very well in this match. There's no way you could say he choked in this match, he was clearly outplayed and out-thought.
@HDSPKSRecords-gi1ob14 күн бұрын
Well he beat FZD 4:2 and come back from 8:1 in 5th set and that showed that he was very stable in this tournament despite his Los of 2 set in group round.
This was one of the most succinct, thorough, and accurate analysis videos I've seen. Very well done!
cant believe you have that less subscribers, as a chinese myself playing on professional level, i find this video so accurate and make sense
Youre chinese
Xu Xin actually made a video about this game. He said exactly the same😂 The last time Ma Long made a backhand serve was 3 years ago
Can you send link of that video
It’s like on Chinese video platform yk? Bc im Chinese and play table tennis, my mum like to watch these videos. Its not on youtube sorry
@user-tj8ii4ie1z I play tt too and follow all tournaments
wheres the video
@@Azazel_Woodwind as i said its not on youtube but on chinese apps
Ma Long after losing 3 straight sets. "I'm going to backhand serve my way to victory."
Ma Long doesn't need any coach he knows table tennis better than the coach and could be a coach later himself
He does, a couch would have noticed those things sooner and probably would not lead to a 0:3 start, even if he knows so much, coaches are faster to realize those things
A second pair of eyes from the third POV doesn't hurt.
I doubt anyone is capable of following Ma Long's advices
please break down mang chuqin malong 4-0. well done video
Yeah that match. And also the match when ma long flipped his bat against Liang, he lost the match but almost make it to win. 😅
wang not mang
Ma Long The Dragon! The Captain! The Dictator! The Hexagon Warrior! The Most Complete Player! The Master of All Techniques and Tactics! The Walking Table Tennis Textbook! The Genius! The King of Epic Plays! The Winning Machine! The Record Breaker! The History Maker! The Most Accomplished Table Tennis Player! The Table Tennis GOAT!
Ma Long is super!
Excellent analyze. Thanks for uploading.
Insane game.
There is also one more element, which was especially visible against Wang Chiqin: Ma Long was very relaxed, while his opponents were tense, they were repeatedly overdoing with their shots, playing too strong, as Ma Long didn't "want to miss" and often missed themselves. Ma was under no pressure to prove anything and this also paid off. One more element playing some role was also Lin's psyche, It's not the first time he's struggled with the problem of closing a match, and years later it still haunts him. I think this is the main reason he will never be considered by the Chinese coaches as the first choice for their team in the greatest tournaments.
Very nice video, could you also make one about the match vs wang chuqin? I am really interested in your thoughts about it :)
Impressive victory from the champ. I really enjoyed this video, your style is easy to understand and not obnoxious.
Please more of these Videos! So useful. Thank you!
1:04 Ma Long's fh top spin movement starts with the racket low and back, and the shoulders rotated 90°.
its so accurate❤ subscribed
Great video thanks
Very interesting, great format!
Best analysis. To the point and no rubbish talk
it was not just the backhand serve he introduced but also the backhand slam: finishing ralleys with straight backhand shots. So Ma Long did during the game what Lin did after the serve: reverting to backhand. Although Ma Long did this more in the game against Wang in semis
These tactics are the same I’ve been telling players I coach when they play against a left handed player (or lefty verse righty), and is something I wish ma long did, and I’m glad he did. The biggest advantage is short forehand wide backhand. It’s the furthest to cover in the table.
At around 0:30 you said that Ma long takes his first singels worldcup title but this is his third singels world cup title. He won in 2012,2015 and now in 2024.
Good job man, great analysis
😘😍😎Dragon Legend Captain Ma Long🎉😂❤
Excellent analysis
Ma Long has captured two World Cup Singles Champion twice before this year, so this is not his first.
Not dissimilar in his change of strategy against FzD in the 2017 world championship. Absolute master class.
great video
Ma Long❤❤🎉🎉🏓🏓
Ma Long's blocking game reminds me a lot of Waldner.
Was great match
he changed his usual game in the semi against wang from the beginning on !!!!
Lol I though ma long doing some zesty ahh crossing ballet leg thing in the thumbnail
refreshing... finally someone who analyzed it correctly. U have good understanding of the game, just like myself
Great analysis. But I don't understand why would BH serve make a difference, he was generating the same kind of spin with reverse pendulum (side spin in the direction of Lin's BH side). Why doesn't reverse pendulum allow him to stay away from the table to receive Lin's banana flick? He can also hide the backspin or topspin in both of the serves, so I don't get it how could that possibly help him?
With backhand serve, the ball is played in front of the body. This is not the problem it used to be since you cannot hide the ball from your opponent with your body. You can stand closer to the center of the table. There is less movement required after the serve to position yourself for the next ball. Not as much wide forehand to cover. Your backhand must be good for 3rd ball, but Ma Long has good block and counter. See Jorgic and Ovtcharov who play effective backhand serve. Sometimes just playing something different your opponent hasn't seen before from you is enough to affect his expectations and break up his rhythm giving you the advantage.
@user-oj6dl1ck9r hm. Although I agree with changing your playing style to break the opponent's rhythm, I don't think you can't stay at the centre of the table with reverse pendulum. You still hit it below and in front of your chest while bowing a bit. That doesn't prevent you from not being in the centre, players just doesn't serve it in the centre because with their momentum while serving, they move a bit towards the centre after serve. And about requiring less movement, we can say players struggle to be stable again but I don't think anyone at Ma Long's level is even bothered by it, they can adjust themselves according to their serves.
@@user-oj6dl1ck9rMa Long's 3rd BH is very good, though, not just his block and counter. He has a very consistent chiquita and easily does a BH topspin against a long push.
I think the difference is literally a single step, with the backhand serve if you would notice ma long is already positioned slightly in the middle and a step away from the table to give himself more table coverage, if he were to do a reverse pen he would need to take a step or two to position himself. This is especially significant when playing at their pace. I am only from my experience and observation tho, there may be other plausable explanation.
First world cup title?? This his third win of world cup bro
I think it’s a load of BS. Ma Long really wanted to win because it’s been a long time since the final wasn’t FZD or WCQ. Sure there were few plays where he was just blocking but this has been the most aggressive play from ML in a long time. He plays almost like a young ML with the occasional rest in between because he’s freaking old.
You have no idea what u are talking about
He was blocking a lot more, and has developed a new backhand block which goes to the opponent's deep backhand corner that he has rarely done before. He changed his service pattern, you would have to have noticed that, at least?
The fuck are you on? He does not “developed” that backhand service. That backhand service is one of the most basic services. Ma Long tries everything when he’s losing, including changing service. He has changed to that service in the past. Most, if not all, players also do this. Fun fact: Felix rarely change to the same service ML is using when he loses! Dimittij also changes to the same services but he does that much more often. The deep corner return is because LGY’s attack deep to his backhand... The only thing he developed is a better backhand which lets him return the ball to where he likes without losing points. He usually just blocks it and loses points on backhands. He has never gotten an “attacking” backhand
Nice clip but the analysis is wrong. Lin Guan and Wong Shuqin are two different players with different equipment. Wong Shuqin has a hard racket and rubbers like Ma Long's which are suitable for strong hits, Ma Long was able to beat Wong Shuqin (world num 1)in a match of strong hits so age has nothing to do with it. Lin Giuang plays with softer equipment that is suitable for weaker balls and closer to the table, similar to a girls' game where they play a fast but not strong exchange of shots, therefore it was difficult for Ma Long to match Lin Giuang's relatively weak pace, certainly after two games with a strong pace shoots against Wang Shuqin and felicis Lebron. Ma Long played exactly in the classical Chinese style that requires adaptation to the game situation after he understands it while playing. It's a shame that people are not aware of the different types of equipment and their effect on the game. Other than that it's a beautiful video
Considering who he won against, it really isn't as impressive. Lin Gaoyuan is pretty well known for choking when closing out games.
But he just beat wang chuquin in the semifinals. That's impressive I guess.
@@virendrakshirsagar6443 that is impressive.... But this video is focused on Lin Gaoyuan
@@apflor323yeah right
Lin Gaoyuan was playing very well in this match. There's no way you could say he choked in this match, he was clearly outplayed and out-thought.
Well he beat FZD 4:2 and come back from 8:1 in 5th set and that showed that he was very stable in this tournament despite his Los of 2 set in group round.