Does the HECS suit really work?
I've been wearing a HECS suit for about a month. So far I've noticed that squirrels virtually ignore me while I'm squirrel hunting (highly unusual for my areas I hunt as I pressure them hard). I've recently had the HECS suit out with deer on two occasions. Once in my camping video, and this is the second time. I've been trying to hide the logos in my videos because the suit has a reputation as being so ridiculous that anyone who even tries it is a fool. But I'm going to go out on a limb here and risk saying my honest observations, which is that the suit seems to possibly work. Its a strong enough possibility to warrant further testing. I'm not telling you to go out and buy one. But I've already got one, so follow my testing and after about a year, maybe I'll have enough data so that we can all make an informed decision as to whether it works or not.
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It makes a lot of sense that they can notice our electric field. They don't mind the noise and movement of a vehicle but the slightest movement of an animal and they're spooked
I learned that deer in fact see parts of the ultra violet spectrum, so they see things like urine and stuff like that. So instead of seeing orange they see piss (and sweat). That’s useful to know because a lot of body fluids have fluorescent molecules in them. So covering areas in clothing is very important
+ Wm Napier In both this video shot in March and the camping video shot in February (where the deer exhibited the same behavior), it wasn't fawning season in this locality. In Florida each deer population at the county level follows its own rut and many have no defined rut at all. Ruts can happen as late as February/March or as early as July. In this particular locality the bucks were still hard-horned in March. Fresh fawns won't start appearing and walking with momma until the middle or end of this month thru August or September and may keep their spots until December or January. Either way, it doesn't change the fact she couldn't see me after watching me move a lot 20 yards away from her at eye level. For an animal intent on finding me, she couldn't see me plainly in front of her.
I have one of these suits too. I've had some encounters with animals wearing it. My opinion on them is still up in the air at the moment. My limited sample size of interaction w/the suit on vs off needs to be increased for me to be absolutely sure. I've been w/in 5 yards of deer while sitting on the ground w/out a HECs suit on, and have had the same w/one on. I do find that I can get away w/more with it on though, but I want to make sure that's not a bias towards the suit.
hi John. Any update on your previous post? I'm very interested to learn more about this technology.
What's up with the update
I just had this same experience tonight with my Hecs suit. It was amazing the deer came within 12 yds of me and couldn't figure out what I was.
I have one as well and noticed one day out scouting a piece of public land during bow season wearing the suit that when i kick them up wearing it they dont just take off and run for the hills. The will maybe run for 25 to 50 yards and stop to see what spooked them. If i would have done it without the suit i never would've seen the deer but only hear them as they are running away.
I only liked this vid because it had a good view of the deer, it's so relaxing to watch her walk around in the woods like that... I'm glad she survived the viewing. 😍😌🤗 Very good camera work I might add. 👍🏾😊
Yep, I'm sold. Osceola in Big Cypress are rough to hunt and I need every advantage I can get!!!
been watching some programms from the series extinct or alive, and he uses game cameras, some of them he covered with hecs cloth, and i saw that he wears the clothing as well. the cameras that were covered with the cloth was untouched by the different animals, but pretty much all the others were sniffed at, torn down etc. etc. so for him it worked when covering the cameras with the cloth.
tested it on bigfoot
Could the animals see him?
Legend has it , its still looking for you
What flipping camera are you using here??? It's fantastic!
+shammyone Its a Panasonic HC-V770. I like it a lot. My next upgrade is going to be for a better mic to go with it. I really want the sounds of the woods to come thru in my videos. Its the sounds of the woods that endure in my memory moreso than the sights.
It's awesome, great footage man! I love the sounds of the woods as well!
if a deer is spooked by a turkey decoy what does that say about the turkey in the area. i had a doe circle me within 10 yards in big cypress.
In the HECS commercials they show a test using a small shark who avoids some raw meat that's wrapped in HECS material....What they don't mention is that Sharks in particular actually do have a specific organ for electroreception. As far as I know, deer do not. I'm still pretty skeptical.
I’m not saying don’t be skeptical. I have a tendency to suspect that the suit works for reasons other than advertised. However, we know now that canines use magnetic fields in relation to pouncing on rodents under snow sheets, we know that sea turtles use magnetic fields to navigate, and we know that cows bed down according to the magnetic fields. We don’t know how they do it, but they do. We don’t know how many animals sense oncoming tsunamis or changes in the weather either.
@@Florida_Bullfrog Their website says it blocks humans' "electrical radiation". If that is just a layman's marketing term for radiation in the electromagnetic spectrum, then that could include infrared radiation, which is the heat we emit. Certainly not all animals see the same visible light spectrum that we do. Though it sounds like their sight is more on the purple/ultraviolet side than red/infrared. I would guess an emergency blanket wrapped around yourself would have the same effect or better, just wouldn't exactly be performance wear. Personally, I have been a big proponent of breaking up the human form. Our shape, our gait, and 2 eyes on the front of our head, like other predators, staring at them is a dead giveaway they need to scram. When I was a kid I could get down on all fours in our backyard and crawl directly towards deer within about 15 feet. No camo, no worry of scent or heat, they just didn't know what to make of that shape. I'm sure they were somewhat desensitized to human activity and smells, but were still wild and weren't fed. Certainly couldn't walk up to them. So if you were crouched or sitting, I would guess that helped a lot.
I’ve long suspected the suit is blocking heat. Its highly reflective and oddly hot for being a thin suit of breathable mesh. I’ve had animals behave similarly when I’m wearing either very thick and layered clothes or fully covered rain-proof clothes. The first few years I hunted as a teenager I would regularly wear very hot rain clothes similar to goretex and it was pretty normal for squirrels to try to climb me in the tree stand. When I started dressing weather appropriate and more comfortable as I got older those sorts of close encounters stopped. The HECs gives me the same effect just more comfortable. I think the simplest way for me accept the HECs is to conclude that whatever it is that hot or thick clothing contains, the HECS does it but with more practicality.
its been two years since the video came out. what are your thoughts on the hecs ?
I still use it. Its been a while since any birds have landed on me. But I haven't spooked a game animal with it since the bird/turkey video while doing slow but steady movements or even faster movements, save for when a turkey has been right on top of me (within a yard) and it walked up beside me and made me jump as I turned my head. If game is further out, about 20 yards or so, they don't seem to pay me much mind even when I do larger movements. In other words, it gives me leeway to not sit absolutely still, which is hard for me to do these days anyhow. At least, I suspect the suit gives me that leeway. However, I cannot walk up to animals as seen in the HECs infomercial. I've come to believe that more normal clothing has a similar effect when worn in thick, multiple layers, as my experiences with the HECs is like what I've experienced on very cold days when I'm wearing lots of layers. Those are the days when animals get close enough to touch. I think the HECs does the same thing just in one thin layer instead of multiple thick layers. As far as how it works, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it has more to do with containing body heat or scent than it does EM fields.
I'm really curious to know something, does it help to keep off mosquitos?
Nope. Not even close.
Yea manufacturers are hoping you believe!!
Hey man, great video. Many people have doubted this suit, but more and more people are starting to come around to this idea. I have aways wondered why animals, even in the presence of their natural predators, react differently, also to other wildlife, and having drastically different reactions to humans. While they not always run, they are never curious about humans, they almost seem to always "suspect" something's wrong us(They would be right), but this suit invites curiosity. Which in hunting terms, means PERFECTION.
+Tim Prather jr There's no doubt animals react to man differently than how they react to animal predators. I don't mean to preach a sermon to you or anyone else, but the matter of fact answer to why that is is given in the Bible. Early in man's history man was meant to be vegetarian. After the Great Flood, God made it so that man could eat meat. He also put upon animals the fear of man that previously did not exist. That's why a deer will fear you before it will fear a coyote or a panther. Its been written into them to fear man and that fear apparently runs deeper than fear of animal predators. Of course animals can be tamed, domesticated, or have that fear lessened thru positive interactions with man. But by default the fear is there and all it takes is a little aggressive action by man to rekindle it after its been dormant. That's one reason I support the controlled hunting of large predators like African lions and I would also support limited hunting of some specific tiger populations. It keeps the fear of man fresh on them and encourages them to avoid human interaction whenever possible.
Florida Bullfrog Wow, the Holy Spirit is powerful. Genesis 9:2 was the first thing I thought of when first thinking about the reactions of the suit. Thank you for responding and speaking your faith, God truly is "God", he doesn't just make things "magically happen", he laid the foundations for the universe, electromagnetism may be the manifestation spoken of in Genesis.
+Tim Prather jr I 100% agree. God invented the natural world as we know it with all of its laws, rules, and occurrences. God is the one who gave animals their senses and abilities that are expressed biologically. It would make complete sense that the fear of man that God instilled on animals would be expressed biologically and would be something humans put out that would be tangible and measurable. Basically like a natural marker placed on us for animals to pick up on or a change in how animals reacted to a natural marker that already existed from the beginning. Thank you so much for sharing!
@@Florida_Bullfrog I have a deer and a turkey in my back yard that hang out together. They wander thru the yard about 3 feet away from each other eating. Always with the turkey in front and the deer behind. Like the turkey is taking the deer for a walk. Real weird.
Beautiful animal.
The ear motions are EM detection measurements
Can we get an update on your HECS suit? I know I’m on their website they advertise for them to last 5 years. Just wondering if you’re still using them.
I'm thinking about trying this next deer season if it does not cost an arm and a leg.
About $100 for a full suit. Mine was a gift from a family member who saw the infomercial. I thought it was all a stupid scam, but I promised I'd try it and reasoned to myself that at the least it would be a comfortable set of undergarments. I was sold on the notion the suit does "something" after the second hunt using it where both times birds landed on my gun and I saw more squirrel than what I had seen all season.
I have deer do this regularly, with out HECS.
Exactly, I've had does walk right next to me. One smelled my boot once.
some guy is that what the deer said?, that he could smell your boot?. What did you tell the deer when he/she said that ?
His humble servant, TF are you talking about? Make sense please.
thomas hendrickson hey he said “one smelled my boot once”, how did he know the deer smelled his boot? What’s with the cursing anyways I’m only asking a question.
His humble servant, he said that because the deer probably put its nose by his boot and smelled it. Duh!
Great video Brother! Very informative, Thank You much again. Do you hunt Green Swamp WMA?
I do not hunt Green Swamp. I'm quite a ways north of Green Swamp. I used to regularly hunt Ocala, Lochloosa, Grove Park, and Goethe's WMAs. Today I hunt Osceola and surrounding WMAs.
You're like the invisible Man. I'm so weirded out by this suit but hell that's some seriously cool technology. Honestly my reaction is the same as the mama deer confused and don't know what's going on or where it's coming from
I can't promise beyond all reasonable doubt its working in the way it claims to work. I believe its doing "something." I could be the something has nothing to do with electrical waves and instead has to do with scent or heat.
@@Florida_Bullfrog that's an answer I feel more comfortable with.
I kind of doubt this works. One there is almost no wind on this video. Two your in full camoflauge and actually pretty concealed behind some brush. I've had deer really close to me while turkey hunting 5 yards or less. My guess is this deer was really curious on what you were but couldn't figure it out.
That she was close to me wasn’t unusual. I’ve had deer within touching distance of me throughout my life and never knew I was there. What makes the HECS different is that the deer can see me move and smell me and still not correctly interpret what they’re seeing or smelling and not spook off. In the last couple of years I’ve been using the suit I’ve never had a deer spook off after seeing me, including the last mature buck I killed. I have had similar results in very cold weather while wearing lots of layers of warm clothes. Seems like there is in fact something we generate or produce that animals detect that can be bottled up with the right clothes. Seems like the HECs does it in a thin layer. Because the suit is so reflective and keeps in so much heat in spite of its mesh nature, I think it may very well be heat the animals can see, perhaps manifest somewhere in the IR spectrum.
So did you have the whole suit on or just the top?
Hunter: Shoots deer with arrow. Deer: What was that!... hmmm must have been my imagination. Hunter: Stealth level 100
I'm getting sleeeeepppyyyy
i have seen countless videos of animals being very close to people from years ago and had deer under my stand that was only 7 ft in the air, i dont like to say things are imposible but it seems highly unlikey a deer has a volt meter built into their ears there have been countless autopsys on deer why havent we heard about this before?
beautiful animal
I have had my best season ever in Georgia with one on!! 🏹🦌🦌🦌🦌
But wouldnt your phone and camcorder be emitting electric waves that they would detect as your filming?
The theory is that electronic items occupy a completely different part of the spectrum than living things and animals would be tune to the low frequencies animals emit and not the high frequencies electronics emit. What I can say science seems to confirm is that all living animals emit a low frequency signal indicative of their species. Humans are somewhere are 7Hz. Its likely that canines can register the frequencies of rodents in the 3-4Hz range and its believed its the frequency, not sound, that canines use to find rodents under snow drifts and deep dirt. Or alternatively the canines detect the frequency thru their ears but its not sound as we’d understand it. Now how that relates to a carbon fiber suit and detection of humans is a different set of questions. I am convinced the HECs works but it may not have much to do with electric frequency. It could be containing my smell or containing body heat the animal can see in ways we don’t acknowledge yet.
That's awesome
This is the first time I've heard of HECS. It's been a while since you posted this, are you still getting similar results?
Yes. I haven't had a bird land on me in a while, but I haven't had a deer visually spook on me either since I've started using the suit.
Thanks for the reply. I'm sold, I'm gonna try it.
The mechanism of the suit is a mystery to me. I've had similar results when I've worn several layers of thick clothes while hunting. I believe that "something" is being contained, whether it be "electromagnetic waves" or simply body heat or scent. I think the HECs works on the same principle as multi-layered clothes, just in one thin layer. The suit is highly reflective, making me think that perhaps its reflecting body heat and animals can tune into heat in a way we don't understand. An engineer I know opined that its possible animals see heat as a form of light that can shine thru normal, thin, clothes. Or that we generate more UV than we know and that the animals may be tuning into UV we put out that the HECs suit is blocking, as we do know that most mammals and birds see UV.
How common is it for an animal to use that detection system
Wonder why I can't find even one negative review of this suit? You'd think even if it worked there would still be skeptics that make a review.
it is easy for who ever runs the channel to delet any comment they want
I wonder if it is a scent elimination as well seems like it ?
Could be. Could be that for whatever reason the suit works is the same reason carbon suits work. I have been the biggest skeptic in the world of carbon scent suits because activated carbon cannot be recharged in a drier, but the HECS is made of carbon fiber and it could be something about the carbon masks scent, even if it doesn't actually absorb the scent.
So if it blocks “electric field” of people, doesn’t one think the camera prob give off more of electric field than any animal ? I don’t know if scam or not but .....
The idea would be that every living thing only gives off a specific frequency unique to its kind (which is apparently scientifically proven based on per reviewed studies Ive read that have nothing to do with HECs). For example, rodents occupy one set of frequencies. Humans another. Ect. Human electronics would be in a radically different set of frequencies. That doesn’t mean the HECs suit works as advertised. Simply that it is a fact humans emit EM waves that can be measured. Human’s frequency is 5 Hz or 10hz depending on the study. Rodents are lower. It is now believed that K9s detect rodents under the snow not by sound or smell but by their frequency. When K9s pounce on the snow at a rodent underneath they align themselves with magnetic north when they do so. If you google foxes and magnetic field you’ll see the studies that talk about it.
Don’t deer navigate the woods by their antlers by picking up the magnetic fields and know where north is? Look up the compound that is found in the eyes... Same compound is found in fruit flies, and proved they can navigate by taking the compound out of the eye, then reintroduced with a more complex version found in our eyes and proven they can navigate and not navigate and then navigate again. A theory I have is that they can actually pick up the electrical pulses of heart beats, and then when the magnetic fields are disturbed by our electrical signal from our vitals gives a hunter away.. God Bless 🙏
Doe don't have antlers so what do they do??
Yea but wouldn't your camera battery would generating electromagnetic fields ?
The theory is that the ELF we generate is at a much lower frequency than electronics. We're somewhere in the 6-7hrz range. Other animals generate at different frenqencies. I read a study that indicated rodents are around 3-4 when they are foraging. Possibly this is what predators key into when tracking rodents in the dark. Especially K9s tracking them under ground and snowbanks. When K9s pounce on a rodent below them, they align with North and South before doing so. Biologists are reasonably sure they're using the rodent's ELF as opposed to smell or sound to track them. It could be that the ears are the mechanism by which the ELF is detected, thus the reason we may incorrectly perceive it as sound. Think of the ELF as radio waves the living things are putting out and the ears as the biological receiver or antenna of those waives.
Kinda has that feel like someone's watching you type thing, with that it's always referring a person or animal. Cameras watch but they don't have the ability to pose a threat
Obviously she’s in heat, she wants you to call her sometime! Just give her a fake number! I saw turkeys on the way to Kennedy space center in February is that when form lex or whatever calked don’t know seasons. Not sure if can hunt in Pinellas, tons of housing, never see much wildlife like other places lived.
Because if i can beat his nose i can get 10 feet away without a 300$ set of camo lmfao what about scent
what even was that paradox off a question?
Does not work from my experiences with it
deer are not sharks or rays they don;t have that sense of lamborginie nerve running down the length of their body. sorry about the l spelling
Underrated comment.
get some faraday material
Why would a turkey spook a deer? I've had deer see me and walk right to me. Hecs suit is a croc
Don't know why... But I have seen turkey freak deer out and also not bother them at all. Here's a question: Have you tried a HECS suit?
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