MEDIEVAL ARMOUR TESTED! - Arrows vs Amour 2

2024 ж. 29 Сәу.
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160lbs ENGLISH WARBOW shoots FULL WEIGHT MEDIEVAL ARROWS at reproduced MEDIEVAL ARMOUR. Find out what happens!
‘Arrows vs Armour’ is back and we are shooting medieval war arrows at the top half of an armoured knight using armour and arrows that are correct in every detail. This film shows exactly what happened…….
Thousands of knights were slain by the English archers at battles like Agincourt, even though they wore full armour; we just didn’t know how and this film goes a long way to explaining what actually occurred.
TV companies have no interest in doing these tests for real with correct armour and real experts who talk about what they see, not about what the script tells them to say. We film it and we show it. No pre-written scripts, no hype, no fluff, no predetermined TV outcomes; just factual truth. All filmed by professional TV crew, but working for us, our way.
This project generated so many questions that we had to make other films to answer them and these are linked below.
We have also put together a website hosting all the films, documents, supplier contacts and biographies for this series of films todtodeschini.com/youtube-pro...
Arrows vs Armour 2 - Plate tests • ARROWS vs ARMOUR 2 - B...
Arrows vs Armour 2 - Mail tests • ARROWS vs ARMOUR 2 - D...
Arrows vs Armour 2 - Arrowhead tests • ARROWS vs ARMOUR 2 - B...
Arrows vs Armour 2 - How powerful is a war bow? • ARROWS vs ARMOUR 2 - H...
Produced by
todcutler.com and todsworkshop.com
Music: Rise - by TwinsMusic - Licenced from Bensound.com
00:00 Intro
09:33 Shooting from the front - round 1
12:18 Shooting from the front - round 2
17:28 Knights "walking into the storm"
22:13 Shooting three quarters
25:34 Shooting side
29:29 Slow motion footage
32:08 Shooting hardened arrowheads
34:17 Armour Damage
35:54 Shooting at the breaths and visor
39:20 Conclusions

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  • Can’t believe I get to watch this for free. The amount of work and time required is incredible. I want to add that people often forget that the horse is a much larger target (and not as well armoured for the average horse) and getting thrown off your horse can kill or disable you, or at least reduce your morale in the melee. Don’t forget most of the killing was done in the melee. It seems the longbows were excellent against anything but plate armor, but even these Agincourt era plate armoured knights were vulnerable to longbow arrows due to the lack of plate armor for the entire horse of this time period, reducing their momentum of their cavalry charge. So yes, longbowmen were still useful against heavy cavalry of this era

    @HistoricalWeapons@HistoricalWeapons Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Jack and some great thoughts there. Whatever is thought of the longbow and what it can do, what is evident is that as you said " It seems the longbows were excellent against anything but plate armor,"

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • Love your channel too. Keep it up!

      @mchernett@mchernett Жыл бұрын
    • @@tods_workshop it’s jack

      @andkonblack@andkonblack Жыл бұрын
    • Agreed, 100%.

      @Gman-109@Gman-109 Жыл бұрын
    • It's not strictly true that heavy cavalry of the period was vulnerable to longbows. Valmont in 1416 and Vernueil in 1424 showed that *some* cavalry was sufficiently protected to charge straight through archers, regardless of their longbows and the stakes they had planted before them. This does seem to be a minority, however. (See the Gesta Henrici V for Valmont and Richard Wadge's book on Vernueil)

      @Cahirable@Cahirable Жыл бұрын
  • Impressive work, Tod! But we do have evidence concerning arrowheads steel hardened in medieval times as Kelly Devries states in his _Journal of Medieval Military History_ (Page 157) in which a metallographic test is conducted in some type XVI medieval arrowheads. Kelly and his team concluded that 3 of those arrowheads were steel hardened, so we can be more confident to stress that they really applied hardened steel on arrowheads. Also, there is an interesting edict by King Henry IV that may support this evidence: the Act of Parliament of 1405 states that "If arrows are found to be soft then the Arrowsmith will go to jail and his stock will be confiscated. (7 Hen. IVc7)

    @BrasaodeArmas@BrasaodeArmas Жыл бұрын
    • Type 16 arrowheads are usually steel barbs welded to iron sockets. This is actually irrelevant to our tests however, because we're dealing with bodkins. Perhaps I should have been more clear in saying that evidence of steel, steeled or otherwise hardened "bodkins" and not "arrowheads" is lacking. We are also aware of many official requests and descriptions throughout the medieval period of hard, steeled, steel and "well boiled" arrowheads, from the 1300s to the 1540s, but no actual evidence of case hardened bodkins exists, and if Arrowsmiths were simply told to make them and did, we wouldn't have recurring requests for them, they would just be the standard.

      @MedievalArrows@MedievalArrows Жыл бұрын
    • As an addition, despite there being a law in place that arrowsmiths supplying soft arrowheads would be sent to prison, even in 1545 Ascham writes that he himself has inspected sheaf arrows with heads that would not pass the checks made by officers. If arrowheads were being regularly hardened, this would not be the case. What we're actually seeing is that numerous requests for hardened heads are simply being IGNORED, not followed, regardless the potential punishments. This is apparent both in the physical evidence (no case hardened heads exist) and in the documents as if they were being supplied hardened, they wouldn't need to continously attempt to re-enforce the regulations.

      @MedievalArrows@MedievalArrows Жыл бұрын
    • @@MedievalArrows I see, I guess that was the problem indeed: you ended up generalizing "arrowheads" instead of stressing only "bodkins" on your conclusions. Also, it would be nice if you pointed out that we have evidence of other types of case hardened arrowheads to problematize even more the discussion. But it was a fantastic piece of work, regardless of my humble observations.

      @BrasaodeArmas@BrasaodeArmas Жыл бұрын
    • @@BrasaodeArmas we don't have ANY evidence of any case hardened heads, regardless of type. We only have evidence of a few steel bodkins, and lots of steel-barbed iron-socketed barbed heads.

      @MedievalArrows@MedievalArrows Жыл бұрын
    • Wouldn't be the first time a contractor shorted the Kings edict for an extra penny.

      @pavementsailor@pavementsailor Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely STAGGERING accuracy, Joe is a master archer. Watching his pull and hold, he has almost zero wobble, once he's fully locked his aim never falters. An entire unit of men like him on the field would have terrifying to face.

    @eloquentsarcasm@eloquentsarcasm Жыл бұрын
    • and considering every able bodies man was required to train every week, there would be no shortage of skilled longbowmen to scare the bejezus out of the enemy.

      @doratheexploder286@doratheexploder286 Жыл бұрын
    • @@doratheexploder286 *able-bodied

      @frontenac5083@frontenac5083 Жыл бұрын
    • Why does he look like he's about to take a shit when he shoots

      @iZaners@iZaners Жыл бұрын
    • @@iZaners The kinesthetics of archery means it might look goofy, but it works. You have to contort your body like that when pulling draw weights over 100 lbs without pulley assists like modern compound bows. Bone scans of ancient archers show the massive strain and damage a lifetime of shooting warbows caused, even WITH proper techniques used.

      @eloquentsarcasm@eloquentsarcasm Жыл бұрын
    • 25:10 He is so giddy to get some good shots in the side, I love it

      @Papst_Polle@Papst_Polle Жыл бұрын
  • As terrifying as it would be to walk into the rain of arrows aimed at you, could you imagine being one of the archers watching a hulking tower of iron walking toward you with malicious intent seemingly unfazed by the three arrows sticking out of his throat?

    @DH-xw6jp@DH-xw6jp Жыл бұрын
    • At the distance he’s shooting at, if I’m the archer I probably have only two options left after the second arrow is loosed: fall back or switch to my melee weapon. The second option would probably been dreadful for a peasant archer.

      @MandalorV7@MandalorV7 Жыл бұрын
    • @@MandalorV7 Peasant Spearmen would be a menace to mounted cavalry. So I'm sure a Peasant Archer would be equally threatening to a knight, mounted or not.

      @airekofvinlandslayerofthes7965@airekofvinlandslayerofthes7965 Жыл бұрын
    • @@MandalorV7 Well not really considered a lot of the knights felled at Agrincourt was in melee combat with the archers. These are professional man at arms and peasantry that been through many battles. Some might even look forward to it since the enemy knight would be far easier to capture and ransome if beaten to surrender in melee combat.

      @dabo5078@dabo5078 Жыл бұрын
    • @@MandalorV7 Frankly I would rather be a peasant archer with a ranged weapon that I could shoot at the rich b*stard's crotch than be handed a cheap spear and told to go do the dying for my betters. Also, imagine being a standard infantryman with a boiled leather breastplate and maybe a bit of steel on your helmet faced with being shot with even one of those arrows. Even if you survived the immediate impact, you knew a penetration wound like that carried a massive risk of infection and an agonizing death from gangrene.

      @djb3500@djb3500 Жыл бұрын
    • I guess you can see why they call the Knight the "medieval tank"

      @stevencoardvenice@stevencoardvenice Жыл бұрын
  • It was a huge privilege to be able to help out with this!

    @Drachinifel@Drachinifel Жыл бұрын
    • you're a legend!

      @airnt@airnt Жыл бұрын
    • Amazing work!

      @Cervando@Cervando Жыл бұрын
    • A surprise but a welcome one nonetheless.

      @EXO9X8@EXO9X8 Жыл бұрын
    • And you did Drach - big time. We really appreciate your input and great to have you around over the weekend

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • Wow, another channel I LOVE. Great job Drach. Are you back in the UK now after your visit to the USA?

      @Gman-109@Gman-109 Жыл бұрын
  • The French fear of getting hit in the face could be a survivor bias. Sure they got hit and it hurt, but it didn't kill them. The dudes getting hit under the shoulder or in the throat would likely not be alive to have their accounts written down.

    @JjackVideo@JjackVideo Жыл бұрын
    • Very true - nice point

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • When they put they heads down the helmet ends in the way of a direct hit on the aventail, i wonder if that had something to do with it.

      @Williazzzz@Williazzzz Жыл бұрын
    • Heck, Henry V survived an arrow to the face when he was 16 years of age.

      @BlazingSteel@BlazingSteel Жыл бұрын
    • @@BlazingSteel i dont know why but getting hit by an arrow in the face seems somewhat worse than a bullet , but then again at least the bullet puts you out of your misery (most of the time at least)

      @mcsmash4905@mcsmash4905 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mcsmash4905 That's probably it. That and also if arrows are stuck in the ground, that arrow has bacteria that can cause infection if it's not treated quickly or properly. And getting hit in the face and being knocked into thick and gooey mud is gonna impede how quickly you can get to medical aid.

      @BlazingSteel@BlazingSteel Жыл бұрын
  • Great evaluation. I''m a retired Army Combat Medic, and Surgical technician with 49 years experience, much of which was in trauma surgery. Where the arrow struck just below the color bone (clavicle) could easily result in death. The top of the lung often is found in that area, as are many important anatomically significant structures, like the subclavian artery and vein. While not resulting in as quick of a bleed out as a femoral artery laceration, it's quite possible. On top of that, if the lung is compromised, well, that too COULD result in death. Just food for thought. God bless Justin

    @justinmaddox8353@justinmaddox8353 Жыл бұрын
    • Well that's why the mail on the neck covers that area!

      @stevencoardvenice@stevencoardvenice Жыл бұрын
    • It's amazing what people can sometimes survive. It's also amazing what can sometimes kill people.

      @injest1928@injest192810 ай бұрын
    • @@injest1928 tiny tiny microscopic life forms can kill us. Completely invisible to humanity until the microscope came around in the 1700s

      @stevencoardvenice@stevencoardvenice10 ай бұрын
    • What about blunt (no penetration) blows to the chin when the head turns and shifts? Could it be a knock-out blow? Taking the energy those arrows (thick and heavy) deliver with such a powerful bow. We assume the chain mail goes up to cover at least the entire neck and maybe partially the lowest part of the jaw bone. The mail coif was only worn this way.

      @HanSolo__@HanSolo__10 ай бұрын
  • Man, people really underestimate how much strength is required to shoot bows like that. You can see the struggle in his face and arms. Impressive! I couldn't do it, pretty sure my shoulders would shatter.

    @GildedPoo@GildedPoo Жыл бұрын
    • Longbowmen in England can be identified by how warped their forearm bones were. It's a crazy curve

      @Walterthefriendly@Walterthefriendly5 ай бұрын
    • I guess its just fantasy rpg make you think the bow users are delicate dexterous people even tho they would have to be jacked up strongmen to fire nonstop when the enemy was in effective range. Even this great archer here who obviously gets breaks in between the shots looks quite winded for sure at some points.

      @Jebu911@Jebu9114 ай бұрын
  • These guys are doing proper historical research and they are just releasing it like this. Freely available to the public. I cannot put into words how great that is.

    @michimatsch5862@michimatsch5862 Жыл бұрын
    • It's great but remember it was funded by the public.

      @sanderson9338@sanderson9338 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks but yes Sanderson is right, it was crowdfunded on Kickstarter, but it has still been a vast amount of work and is still going as there are at least 4 more films coming in this series

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • @@sanderson9338 And patrons bonuses...yummy

      @stuartburns8657@stuartburns8657 Жыл бұрын
    • @@tods_workshop 4 more films in this series?! That is great news! 👍

      @jake4194@jake4194 Жыл бұрын
    • Most researcher (historic or not) are more than happy to freely share their result with the public. Because at the end of the day finding out stuff is fun, but telling other about what you found is half the fun! And I know very few doctors, scientist, curators or archeologist that weren't deligthed to find an attentive ear and eyes to their field of preference. That being said, Thanks Tod for organizing this and thank to all of the team for giving us such great infos!

      @elgraid@elgraid Жыл бұрын
  • joe is an absolute animal,cant believe how good he is ,not many can even draw 160 pounder,but to be that accurate constantly with it is extraordinary,just amazing

    @kaameeapina153@kaameeapina153 Жыл бұрын
    • look at the size of the mans torso compared to his legs. Dudes all upper body.

      @strellettes8511@strellettes8511 Жыл бұрын
    • At the end when he was just head down and putting arrow after arrow into the helmet, I can only imagine how much that must have burned by the end! But pinpoint accurately to the last arrow.

      @steven251134@steven251134 Жыл бұрын
    • that's kind of an interesting ancillary thing in this video. Movies and games tend to give this idea that archery is fairly easy, that it's the perfect weapon for the less physically gifted fighters. But even a guy as big as Joe is physically straining just to draw that thing. You have to be unbelievably strong to be a good military archer. the first hand accounts of Agincourt say the archers were armed with hammers or maces for close in combat, bashing the tired french knights down to the ground once they finally got into close combat and forcing them to surrender. Really makes you understand just how bloody effective that really would have been, given the brute strength these guys would have had. professional longbowmen were not something to be underestimated in a melee situation

      @petriew2018@petriew2018 Жыл бұрын
    • Archeologists have no problem telling who the long bowmen were due to their deformed torsos

      @charlesharper2357@charlesharper2357 Жыл бұрын
    • If gun was not invented, we will see people go to war wearing plate armor today.

      @manjitahzan9577@manjitahzan9577 Жыл бұрын
  • The amount of craftsmanship and expertise between all these guys, and a pure honest curiosity to discover is really awe inspiring. Thanks to all of you!

    @approximately27goats@approximately27goats Жыл бұрын
    • Our pleasure!

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly what I was thinking! Making history fun!

      @professorgmac3873@professorgmac3873 Жыл бұрын
    • That´s what I thought. You literaly can see them glowing! Especially Tod! I love those guys.

      @raudi42@raudi4210 ай бұрын
  • *THIS WILL BE USED* as reference material for the next 50 years - well done guys...!!! Thank you to everyone who contributed.

    @piccalillipit9211@piccalillipit9211 Жыл бұрын
    • Next 500 years even

      @AverageAlien@AverageAlien Жыл бұрын
    • 10000 years @@AverageAlien

      @thenewcamelot8873@thenewcamelot88736 ай бұрын
    • Rubbish. He was way too close to the target compared to what would have happened in real life.

      @regwatson2017@regwatson20174 ай бұрын
    • ​@@regwatson2017the English archers were also put in melee during the battle. They definitely also point blank shot the french knights.

      @arcticwulf5796@arcticwulf57962 ай бұрын
    • Bro they use actual renforced arrow and that was the only one who perced btw the cheapest mail possible

      @didoubrenko1205@didoubrenko1205Ай бұрын
  • Well done, everyone! It seems that when in doubt, shoot a Frenchman in the belly. You deal with 'bite' in this one, which I mentioned in a comment on one of your other recent vids. the psychological effect of a near miss to the eye must be great. Also, if you are being hit hard by many arrows, how easy is it to stay upright and advance, even if none penetrates?

    @lindybeige@lindybeige Жыл бұрын
    • Wait a minute, aren't you supposed to be at the tank museum?

      @baneofnight315@baneofnight315 Жыл бұрын
    • That last question of yours is going to be difficult to answer unless you would like to stand in front of a bunch of long bow archers because I can’t think of many people who are going to be willing to test that theory out I’m certainly not going to do that unless you’re going to provide me with a free suit of armor But hey if you guys will pay for me to get a custom suit I’ll let you shoot at me with arrows

      @charlottewalnut3118@charlottewalnut3118 Жыл бұрын
    • @@charlottewalnut3118 Careful, with the battle hungry audience on here desperate to see if you could stay on your feet they will crowd fund that in a couple of hours.

      @noncompliance4100@noncompliance4100 Жыл бұрын
    • @@charlottewalnut3118 you're crazy... I like you lol

      @sinisterswordsman25@sinisterswordsman25 Жыл бұрын
    • I think the mental effect of having a kinetic impact slam my head back and seeing an arrow burst into fragments an inch in front of my face would give me great pause. Even the hits to the breastplate must feel like you've been kicked and you'd just be waiting for the next one to go through...

      @dbareford@dbareford Жыл бұрын
  • An an archer, I am really impressed with Joe's stamina and accuracy! To pull a 160 lb bow that many times and be as accurate as he was. Amazing.

    @Crescent_Archery@Crescent_Archery Жыл бұрын
    • The mans a beast!

      @tylerschofield@tylerschofield Жыл бұрын
    • The repeat hits within an inch of each other...incredible!

      @stephenmacrae1039@stephenmacrae1039 Жыл бұрын
    • I was expecting this to be done over several days due to the stamina drain. I remember Tod interviewing him several years where he talked about how much it takes out of you and how he limits the number the number of shots to conserve his body. I'm in awe at the man.

      @beardedchimp@beardedchimp Жыл бұрын
    • @@beardedchimp If memory serves me right Joe said that he can do 150 pounds for a long time, but his highest is like 200 pounds and that one tires him fast.

      @anonimus370@anonimus370 Жыл бұрын
    • @@anonimus370 People like to inject some good ol’ power creep into statistics about history. I regularly see people claiming longbows were “over 200+ pounds draw weight!” In reality, most were 75-180, with 120-150 being the most common range for professional archers. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Joe finds a 150lb bow to be the highest powered bow he can shoot without rapidly depleting his strength, and this also happened to be the upper range for the power of the typical longbow.

      @QualityPen@QualityPen Жыл бұрын
  • As a thought, fear of penetrating the visor might have 2 additional factors. Natural inclination to flinch and avoid things coming straight at your eyes, even if you know the goggles/visor would protect you. Also, even if it doesn't penetrate, if the arrow shatters a single wood splinter entering the slit would probably blind you in that eye for life. A suggestion for if you ever do this again, stick a sheet of thin paper behind the eye sockets inside the helmet, to see if any splinters are fragmenting through that area. (And of course if you're talking about shattered arrow fragments, you're also worried about the ones that shattered glancing off the guy Infront of, or beside you.) Love the video. A few of those non-glancing head shots that didn't penetrate might still be doing some concussion damage from the way the heads getting moved around, as well as whiplash damage to the neck

    @Jus7aguy@Jus7aguy Жыл бұрын
    • Yep bruises etc under armour would have been very painfull and yeah the concussive effect from multiple hits could have meant your fighting ability was minimal. P.s Although I read recently a story of a battle vs the Turks one guy fought on with one eye and one hand etc...

      @MauriceTarantulas@MauriceTarantulas Жыл бұрын
    • @@MauriceTarantulas a few things i would like to see tested as well are: put the guy on a rig so someone can pull him towards the archer, to simulate the speed at which the knight is moving, which could be quite fast especially if he's on a galloping horse. second thing i would like to see tested is to put the knight up higher, as if he's sitting on a horse, with his armoured knees and shins forward, which i assume would make shooting his groin and thigh area a lot harder.

      @windhelmguard5295@windhelmguard5295 Жыл бұрын
    • @@windhelmguard5295 +1!

      @MauriceTarantulas@MauriceTarantulas Жыл бұрын
    • @@windhelmguard5295 When facing a galloping knight, you don't shoot the knight. You shoot the horse. Horse armor was used but whether it was as broad or as well placed is a question. A horse falling is going to create more mass to block horses behind it. Shooting the rider, horse may keep going in a formed charge. Shoot the horse, rider is thrown, likely injured and formation behind gets wider to avoid tripping.

      @TheXasti@TheXasti Жыл бұрын
    • @@windhelmguard5295 they were on foot at Agincourt, that is why they conducted this test this way, with that armour.

      @tallercine2349@tallercine2349 Жыл бұрын
  • That was magnificent. The best arrow vs armour testing I have ever seen by far. Really cool to watch the effect of form and deflection. Also to see the energy dissipation as so many of those arrows just exploded. The faceplate testing was particularly fun, and seriously impressive as to how well that helmet stood up to such punishment.

    @jonno27@jonno27Ай бұрын
  • Would be awesome if a sound wizard could clone/cut/paste all the different arrow shattering ploinks to give an impression of how a hailstorm of arrows would've sounded hitting a group of well plated knights.

    @Solidfluids@Solidfluids Жыл бұрын
    • No there is an idea

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • That'd be a nightmare. 5000 - 6750 archers firing 10 arrows per minute is gonna be hell on earth for anyone slogging through the muddy fields of Agincourt, however heavily armored they are.

      @BlazingSteel@BlazingSteel Жыл бұрын
    • I want to hear that! It would be my morning alarm, I'm sure I'll get out of bed!

      @alexisalliel73@alexisalliel73 Жыл бұрын
    • @@tods_workshop I have just done a sound design diploma, I can sort that out, no problem.

      @TheBaconWizard@TheBaconWizard Жыл бұрын
    • I was thinking the exact same thing, morale wins battles and the sound alone, I expect, would have a significant effect on morale.

      @georgescott6620@georgescott6620 Жыл бұрын
  • The accuracy was absolutely incredible, you praised him so much throughout the video but the skill displayed here is astonishing, awesome to see.

    @Monjijii@Monjijii Жыл бұрын
    • I can shoot a bow, but as with other skills I can do, when faced with someone who can execute that skill so far in advance of my skill I just get to a state of awe

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • @@tods_workshop I'm in awe seeing that bow being drawn so many times. I'm burnt out after shooting a handful of arrows on just a 50lb I made. 80lb+ in progress. Amazing shooting and a beautiful bow. Great vid.

      @jamesjazwinski4412@jamesjazwinski4412 Жыл бұрын
    • not to mention, there aren't many people who can draw a 160lb bow.

      @mdstmouse7@mdstmouse7 Жыл бұрын
    • @@tods_workshop where the heads greesed also?

      @IamnotfromUSA@IamnotfromUSA Жыл бұрын
  • This is an incredible piece of experimental field archaeology. Superb. Joe's archery is frankly terrifying. To imagine a few thousand Joes on the battlefield, loosing up to a dozen arrows a minute. Absolute carnage.

    @hotspurhema5131@hotspurhema5131 Жыл бұрын
    • Imagining a few thousand Joes really cracked me up for some reason lol!

      @AtHEEstory@AtHEEstory5 ай бұрын
    • 😂🤣🤣 brilliant tbh! Sounds rather exciting.

      @hhassan1217@hhassan12174 ай бұрын
    • I'd imagine those medieval longbowmen are at least twice better than Joe, now thats a fucking nightmare

      @dafuqmr13@dafuqmr134 ай бұрын
    • He's a master archer tho, i don't think a lot of them were as good as he was. A couple but mostly not all of them@@dafuqmr13

      @aurl3119@aurl31193 ай бұрын
    • are u saying people who trained since they are a kid and archering for a job isnt good as this guy?@@aurl3119

      @dafuqmr13@dafuqmr133 ай бұрын
  • There is no way this video was 45 minutes long! I started watching it without checking the runtime and when it was over I was like "well, that was a nice little video" and just saw that it lasted for almost 45 minutes! It felt like 5 at most! I've never seen time pass so quickly as it did with watching this video. Incredible - just like the bow "shooting" in this video!

    @wizewizard1840@wizewizard18406 ай бұрын
  • Brilliantly informative and interesting, and also well filmed etc. impressive work from everybody.

    @ModernKnight@ModernKnight Жыл бұрын
    • Thank You! Lances next?

      @mchernett@mchernett Жыл бұрын
    • All the Medieval era KZheadrs and historical buff are here! I love being apart of this community!

      @breakerdawn8429@breakerdawn8429 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Jason and we enjoyed it and hope you did too.

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
  • This is as high quality as KZhead can get. All of you are making an amazing job and getting the nuances of this highly controversial topic. Thanks to everyone involved for providing such content for free for the rest of us to enjoy!

    @nahuelmat@nahuelmat Жыл бұрын
    • A pleasure

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
  • Imagine being under a immense shower of these arrow storms , the fear ,the noise of the arrows thuding home or pinging off . The screams of pain and panic and endless intensity of arrows , it must have been frightening beyond our modern minds and then you would have to fight the battle immediately after the arrows had stopped .

    @carolarmer1204@carolarmer1204 Жыл бұрын
    • It would sound like thousands of people playing air hockey at the same time. CLINK CLINK clank *PING* The sheer Racket must have been insane. When u get hit in the head with one, it probably really rings your bell. *BONNGGG* Not a profession for the faint of heart

      @stevencoardvenice@stevencoardvenice10 ай бұрын
    • Nowhere near as frightening as modern warfare, though. I'm not saying Medieval Warfare was an easy cake walk psychologically, specially since a constant stream of missiles would have been morale shaking to an extent, but the stressfulness and PTSD inducing conditions of modern combat is just on a whole 'nother level. You can't compare some volleys of arrows in a single day of combat to the shitstorm that was something like WW1.

      @mekingtiger9095@mekingtiger909510 ай бұрын
    • I mean you might not hear any frightened screaming because soldiers would in many cases be yelling a battlecry when they are at close range in unison to bring up the morale. Also remember all of the guys are filled with adrenalin and that is a hell of a hormone also there is a thing called tunnel vision that anyone who has fought in real life know about you aint exactly focusing on whats around you but whats infront of you.

      @Jebu911@Jebu9114 ай бұрын
    • I'm pretty sure modern combat is more terrifying.

      @witoldschwenke9492@witoldschwenke94925 күн бұрын
  • Tod and everyone else, we're the ones that are thankful. This is leagues ahead of anything we saw until now. Absolutely incredible work.

    @KriegBoy@KriegBoy Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah all other tests I have seen said 'look arrows dont peirce plate armour' leaving the question, why did England place such emphasis on the bow then? Just for horses and poorer units?q This test shows how well armoured knights were mostly safe but had weak points which could be exploited. Its also worth saying that this and other tests focus on early 15th century armour. But what about 1346 armour which I am sure had more weak points. I get the impression that archers were far more effective in the early HYW but by 1415 were becoming less devastating?

      @osr4152@osr4152 Жыл бұрын
  • Great experiments! It really shows that you had to shoot many, many arrows against armored enemies as most arrows would either miss or hit well protected areas. The amount of expert archers and top notch equipment is mind boggling. But so is the effort it took to fabricate ONE suit of armor like that...

    @Slingshotchannel@Slingshotchannel Жыл бұрын
    • Would be cool to see a modern take on this with the "Instant 160 pound Robin Hood" i would think... Or this double bow you created to pull even more pounds.

      @danielwlodawer1282@danielwlodawer1282 Жыл бұрын
    • When you shoot like 200 arrows at the same time you know some are going to find the target.

      @JesusProtects@JesusProtects Жыл бұрын
    • Let me show you it's features

      @Cormano980@Cormano980 Жыл бұрын
    • it's why you try to take out their horses instead of aiming for the strongest point.

      @carlost856@carlost856 Жыл бұрын
    • Only a matter of time until Todd and Jörg team up in persona 💪

      @ArniesTech@ArniesTech Жыл бұрын
  • Very few people can get away with being as completely and totally devoid of excitement while saying "I'm pretty excited" like Toby Capwell does. The man is a living embodiment of the stone face emoji and we all love him for it.

    @SaintDaisley@SaintDaisley Жыл бұрын
    • i so remember at a jousting event riding next to him, with the helmets closed, so stone faced helmet visors... and just heaaring him cowboyjell and sing Rob Zombie songs, next to me. i always think of him as very excitable.

      @airnt@airnt Жыл бұрын
    • I have know Toby for quite a few years, but I have never been graced with a 'YeaHa!' and now I feel deprived

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
  • Man, props to Joe, he only missed two shots! And that bow looks heckin' thick. I love how this is a culmination of many masters of different aspects of shooting the target. Also this is all from one archer! There were so many archers during that battle (I'm assuming lol)

    @bebejebe@bebejebe Жыл бұрын
  • The archer is a beast. Imagine facing an entire unit of soldiers like that, pointing their arrows at you. Awesome content, congratulations to everyone involved!

    @LizardManFromTheEarthCore@LizardManFromTheEarthCore9 ай бұрын
    • I's be ok in that armour looks like :-)

      @thenewcamelot8873@thenewcamelot88736 ай бұрын
  • Watching experts speaking about their passion is such a rewarding experience. The effort and the quality of this video is very clear and I thank all involved in it's creation, you are teaching so many, so much, and deserve all the praise from the comments. Exceptional work.

    @Billybobble1@Billybobble1 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
  • I just finished the portion of the video that starts at 18:19 where Joe is told to actively deliver effective shots and he just blasts three shots into the underbelly of this poor knight like he was just toying before and is going for the kill now. I can't stress out enough how impressed I am by this man's skill in archery

    @Seppi1310@Seppi1310 Жыл бұрын
    • Us too

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • The first one made me wince in sympathy. It looks a bit like a shot to the reproductive zone.

      @MonkeyJedi99@MonkeyJedi99 Жыл бұрын
    • Makes me think whether archers might have aimed for the croth primarily on armoured targets instead center mass. The psychological horror of your first ranks dropping in agony and bleeding out in what I imagine is quite the painful death must have been devastating to morale.

      @galumir@galumir Жыл бұрын
    • Apparently the conquistadors under Cortez would aim for their enemies crotches and faces with their swords which were unprotected and was a massive morale factor

      @jimmybobby4824@jimmybobby4824 Жыл бұрын
    • But that just confirms something. A bowman had to be GOOD. And that took years and years of training. Clearly, since crossbows were so much easier to use, you can see why eventually they started being used more often.

      @TK-fk4po@TK-fk4po Жыл бұрын
  • A team of experts and men who enjoy his work and HISTORY. I never seen this channel and happy I now have

    @byronharano2391@byronharano2391 Жыл бұрын
  • Really love the dedication to the scientific method. You took all the criticisms and (possible) shortcomings of the first test/video, did your research, verified what you were doing is as accurate as is reasonable in the modern day, and set up a new test that allowed you to glean much more information: more shots loosed, from different angles, at various parts of the armor, and with 2 types of arrowhead. Just astounding work. A fascinating watch. Thank you so much for making this.

    @Darkkfated@Darkkfated11 ай бұрын
  • I know he's been doing it for a long time, but it's still so incredible to watch Joe repeatedly draw a bow of that weight, and be able to repeatedly strike a man sized target at that distance. It's so interesting to watch a master at his craft.

    @mtgAzim@mtgAzim Жыл бұрын
    • I have to agree. I just took up archery. And even at low poundage it's shocking how tiring it can get. Even with breaks I'm sure they have him, doing this many at that poundage is just jaw dropping. The fact he remained accurate on top of that is incredible.

      @matthewsaari6577@matthewsaari6577 Жыл бұрын
    • I also like his stance being historically accurate, I know he’s doing it because of the bow he is firing, but it’s still very cool

      @terrestunicorn3782@terrestunicorn3782 Жыл бұрын
    • man i hope they gave that guy some breaks, this looked brutal lol

      @drewrobinson2182@drewrobinson2182 Жыл бұрын
    • No kidding. Drawing a 170lb bow that many times has got to be like hitting it hard in the gym. I wonder if he felt it the day after. It also makes me wonder -- how many arrows would the average archer let loose in a day's worth of fighting? And would that factor into bow weight? It's one thing to be able to draw a 170lb bow once -- it's another thing entirely to draw a 170lb bow repeatedly for an extended period of shooting.

      @chad1755@chad1755 Жыл бұрын
    • @@chad1755 Fewer than 48, which is how many arrows were issued to them from Edward III to Henry VIII. Simon Stanley, one of the first generation of modern warbow archers, has actually argued that a mere three arrows a minute would have produced the recorded effects at Agincourt, and I don't think he's far wrong given the mud and other factors at play. 160lbs is also, as Tod and Joe say, on the high side. Most were probably 120-150lbs.

      @Cahirable@Cahirable Жыл бұрын
  • Hi, I’m french and I feel the compassion of Dr Tobie Capwell towards this valiant French knight, he looks at him with emotion and respect, I felt that and without any surprise he showed him his gratitude with a pat on his shoulder at the end. The best part for me! We say Azincourt in French. Best.

    @nicolasfrebillot7899@nicolasfrebillot7899 Жыл бұрын
    • French here and I second that. Maybe next time focus on the battle of Cocherel or Patay!!😂 But I can tell what it sounded like inside the helmet when the first arrow flew: ho merde😮

      @renaudtheis1197@renaudtheis1197 Жыл бұрын
    • Interesting. In Russia its called Aizenkyr.

      @AaSs-ln9mm@AaSs-ln9mm Жыл бұрын
    • I find it had to comprehend how people fought back then, and Renaud not just the sound but imagen how it felt! I shoot archery (modern recurve) but i have shoot a light weight (60lb) longbow and the arrows are hefty and they make the target jump. From a 160lb bow not only would it sound loud but it must be like someone throwing a cricket ball as hard as they can at side of you head! I image plenty of knights feel either stunned or unconscious simply from the force. And after taking 3 or 4 even if uninjured i cant image the could have reach the english feeling all that great. Tired from running, battered and bruised, quite possible with injuries where arrows had got through. To have survived that suicidal charge and then still have to start actually fighting! Then you watch this and think christ these men were brave.

      @TheDevilWAH@TheDevilWAH Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheDevilWAH Think if I'd of had my helmet rattled like that. If it hadn't knocked me stone cold out I'd of played like it had. Let another take up the mantle of front line of the advance.

      @noncompliance4100@noncompliance4100 Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheDevilWAH Consider Agincourt was one of the battles where those captured outnumbered those who were the captors, I imagine they really did have quite severe morale shock after going through that hail of arrows just to lose.

      @Leopardts@Leopardts Жыл бұрын
  • All and every person participated in making of this film deserves admiration. It is just perfect! You are a good team of passionate people, producing unique educative content of incredible accuracy and quality. Now the bar is placed very high. P.S. The decibels within the helmet were also measured! You came extremely prepared to this shooting.

    @Mr_Bob84@Mr_Bob84 Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing work everyone involved! I was just rereading Juliet Barker's impressive Agincourt: The King, the Campaign, the Battle. She describes arrows piercing plate armour directly and finding their way through breathing vent holes and eye slits. But she didn't have the benefit of your incredible experimental archeology at the time of writing. She's shown a great willingness to revise in the light of new information, as she did between the 2005 and the 2015 600th anniversary of the battle edition. Maybe she'll incorporate your findings into future editions. Love these videos that are both entertaining and actually educational, when so much "edutainment" is actually mindless, unsupported drivel.

    @philiptorrens2052@philiptorrens2052 Жыл бұрын
  • Joe is incredible, there are few people that could shoot this kind of bow so many times, but he is also able to aim at specific points in the armour.

    @kilianortmann9979@kilianortmann9979 Жыл бұрын
    • you could see him tiring out later on, but he still manages it.

      @Taygetea@Taygetea Жыл бұрын
  • You boys are not only picking up the slack the modern "history channels" on TV dropped, but you lads just ran a marathon with it too! Splendid educational content!

    @sanitarycockroach9038@sanitarycockroach9038 Жыл бұрын
  • This was spectacular. So many other tests have ignored the fact that armor has gaps, defects etc. Imagine being hit with 10 or more at once. It’s going to find a gap or ring your bell

    @stevebauer1620@stevebauer1620 Жыл бұрын
  • I really love that they made an effort to account for the materials used. Modern industrial steel is significantly higher quality than what they had back then, so using the mild steel as a replacement was an excellent idea.

    @danieledstrom5777@danieledstrom5777 Жыл бұрын
  • Historian and Museum curator, Toby Capwell, PhD and the rest of these experts giggling like schoolboys was definitely worth the price of my contribution. Excellent work! Looking forward to future projects.

    @fuferito@fuferito Жыл бұрын
    • Just Guys Being Dudes Advanced Edition

      @caseco4979@caseco4979 Жыл бұрын
  • Gotta admire Joe for shooting all these arrows with 160lb bow that many times. Holy crap

    @Maaguaa@Maaguaa Жыл бұрын
    • The dude's torso is the size of a trunk, you can see he practices it a lot

      @balduccirichard@balduccirichard Жыл бұрын
    • He's an absolute beast for sure

      @TucanusFace@TucanusFace Жыл бұрын
    • My shoulder and aim takes a toll drawing a 40# recurve bow getting near or over a dozen times. A 160# long bow is kinda shocking.

      @coppertopv365@coppertopv365 Жыл бұрын
    • Guy is a rockstar

      @Rockhound1943@Rockhound1943 Жыл бұрын
    • Can someone tell me the weight of the Bow? Google says 160 lb translates into 72kg. In the Video they said it would weigh 160 pounds and that translates into 32kg, but both of these numbers seem way to high.

      @StarWarsExpert_@StarWarsExpert_ Жыл бұрын
  • You, gentlemen, have outdone it with this production! This is the best historical armor or archery film/documentary made to date! So much irrefutably brought to light it's mind-blowing. I wish for a day when future layman history buffs will look back at this and think, "that's all common knowledge." If such an enlightened time ever comes you lot can know for a fact that these experiments paved the way. Cheers!

    @extrasmack@extrasmack Жыл бұрын
  • Flipping A! Possibly the absolute best video on KZhead. I was enthralled the entire time. Wishing there was more. Thank you to ALL experts, and parties, camera and other crew included, to bring this masterpiece to us. Freaking A, Imma sit here, and watch it again. Let's be honest, probably two more times. Thank you all again.

    @SBDScott@SBDScott Жыл бұрын
    • Lol.

      @frontenac5083@frontenac5083 Жыл бұрын
  • This is legit one of the best uses of the internet I've ever seen. Citizen science crowdfunded globally to answer questions I've been hoping to see more documentaries about since I was a kid. Good job guys! Thanks. 🙏

    @samuelgibson780@samuelgibson780 Жыл бұрын
    • *You have to go out more. Or rather, to learn about all the other amazing things the internet has achieved.*

      @frontenac5083@frontenac5083 Жыл бұрын
  • Better than a History channel production. Absolutely fascinating and thanks to Tod's workshop.

    @simonw6418@simonw6418 Жыл бұрын
    • History channel: Knights were actually aliens and the arrows were made of moon rocks.

      @wuguxiandi9413@wuguxiandi9413 Жыл бұрын
    • @@wuguxiandi9413 Bodkins have a pyramid shape which extends the lifespan of the archer.

      @dougerrohmer@dougerrohmer Жыл бұрын
    • i remember times when history channel was actually about history and discovery channel was actually educating .

      @Andrewf5251@Andrewf5251 Жыл бұрын
    • Being better than the history channel is not difficult.

      @BrokVoekler@BrokVoekler Жыл бұрын
  • Congratulations, amazing work! I came here after getting to know your work through the channel @BrasaodeArmas, the quality and seriousness taken in this research is wonderful. May your work and study lead to new horizons regarding the period studied.

    @jeronimocarlos@jeronimocarlos Жыл бұрын
  • Abolutly impressive work guys. It´s really awesome to see how much of a punch a Armor could withstand. The slow motions where fascinating and aweying. Seeing the arrows rip through the weakpoints like it is paper and seein the armor deflect the arrows on the harder parts just looks so beautiful in slowmotion. I really love the work you guys are doing for science and history alike. And it is entertaining aswell. Guys, Todd thanks for making this series and putting it puplicly available for everyone.

    @-Shinoray-@-Shinoray- Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks and we loved making it! (except for the damn hard work for months too pull it together, but we are slowing forgetting about that part)

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
  • This video should be played in museums alongside the armor! An educational video for the ages.

    @sagebauer1077@sagebauer1077 Жыл бұрын
  • As some one who has been doing HEMA for the past 17 years it brings me massive joy to see how far open source research on subjects like this has gotten since its early days. Thank you all who worked on this, it really broadens our understanding and helps people like me who study in related fiels more than you can imagine. Once again, thank you

    @TechWechSech@TechWechSech Жыл бұрын
  • Hey guys. I just wanted to say thanks for the great video. Also, a big thanks to those involved. Seeing how much you guys enjoyed it. I can tell you I was just the same. Ohhh, ahhhh and oooof, after every shot. Sweet video. Awesome work!

    @richardlopez5758@richardlopez5758 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent tests. Tod, your enthusiasm to find out what really could have happened in these ancient battles is astounding. Thanks for the videos.

    @patriley9449@patriley944911 ай бұрын
  • That is some mighty fine craftsmanship by Augusto. I didn't expect the armour to hold up so well, considering how powerful Joe and his bow are.

    @magnusandersen8898@magnusandersen8898 Жыл бұрын
    • It was

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
  • Tod and the whole crew - you are amazing. I am truly grateful that i've found this chanel and that I am able to watch this. It is amazing that this group of passionate, analytical people could meet and do this, and then show it to the world. Thank you all, hats off!

    @tymoteuszdziedzic3370@tymoteuszdziedzic3370 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, it was a pleasure and this whole thing gave us an excuse to hang out

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
  • I remember years ago I was at the Wallace collection (go) and Toby Capwell walked over and asked me what I was looking at (the falchion) he was amazing talked to me explained so much and a obvious love of the subject and whilst I knew so much less didn't talk down engaged in a conversation where I learnt a lot. He wont remember me but I remember that. An absolute gent.

    @chrisengel6468@chrisengel6468 Жыл бұрын
  • I find this stuff quite interesting - But you're passion and enthusiasm makes it 1000% better. Another great vid.

    @saltydorito7801@saltydorito7801 Жыл бұрын
  • Oh man, I've been looking forward to this for so long (I backed the Kickstarter the day it was announced), and it does *not* disappoint! The attention to detail in making sure that everything was as historically accurate as possible, and testing different materials to show what the differences are between how they perform is exactly what I wanted. Especially that hounskull bascinet: I've always wanted to see a hounskull bascinet getting hit by arrows in different places and from different angles! I love that this video busts the myth that armour of the day was useless against war bows, while also busting the myth that armour of the day was a hard counter to war bows.

    @randalthor741@randalthor741 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks and glad you enjoyed it and yes there is lots of surprise here, but also lots that is of little surprise

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
  • And this gentlemen must be one of the best pieces of historical research that has even been done on this planet. It is mindblowing how many things we have discovered and how many more aspects there are to this topic. Thank you all very much for putting this together. I feel honored and lucky to have been able to see the results of this effort!

    @captainfabian@captainfabian Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks you - that is very kind

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • @@tods_workshop Todd buy a beer or two for that superb shooter from us!! does he has any Patronite to support him?

      @Tymczas@Tymczas Жыл бұрын
    • @@tods_workshop - this is your legacy - this will be referenced for decades to come

      @piccalillipit9211@piccalillipit9211 Жыл бұрын
  • Nice to see your high-quality videos get the adecuate attention I feel they deserve. Stellar work! Of course, around 25 shots were fired, so I think results may vary depending on changing amount of volume, bows and archers. I don't argue the results of this test though. A just think that different results would occur with a higher amount of shots

    @HabarudoD@HabarudoD Жыл бұрын
  • 🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:12 Tod's *Workshop is conducting "Arrows versus Armour 2," testing medieval armor with arrows. The armor, meticulously crafted by Augusto, includes pieces based on historical references like the Wallace Collection A69 helmet and Churburg Castle originals.* 03:22 The *armor, made of mild steel, replicates 14th-15th century French designs. Thickness variations are strategically employed to balance protection and weight, with the breastplate, arms, and visor ranging in thickness.* 06:29 Tod *emphasizes the importance of using mild steel in the armor to represent the common material of the time. The aim is to test the armor's effectiveness against arrows and gain insights into the real-world challenges faced by knights.* 08:18 The *archer, Joe Gibbs, uses a 160-pound self-yew bow, replicating historical bows from the Mary Rose. The arrows, with iron heads, are based on period-appropriate designs, aiming to simulate authentic conditions.* 10:53 The *initial test shows the armor effectively protecting against arrow strikes, with only minor dents and no penetration on the breastplate. The armor's design, including the aventail, proves successful in preventing serious injury.* 19:49 Further *tests reveal vulnerabilities, especially in the lower torso covered by mail. Arrows cause significant damage in these areas, highlighting the limitations of medieval mail armor against powerful arrows.* 21:36 Simulating *flanking shots, the armor's sides are exposed, revealing potential weaknesses. The tests demonstrate the strategic balance in medieval armor design, with reinforced frontal protection but vulnerability on the sides.* 23:22 Armor *is effective; wrist hit but still functional. Arrows hitting articulation, penetrating bone.* 24:26 Armor *dynamic: plates stop arrows, mail turns some, but not all shots. French attacking English center.* 25:39 Archers *targeting knight's exposed areas. Armor absorbs impact, limiting damage.* 26:25 Decibel *reading of arrow impact surprisingly not loud. Back exposed, kidneys hit, armor's varying effectiveness.* 28:02 Armor's *effectiveness observed. Questions about potential differences with case-hardened armor.* 29:26 Reviewing *footage: armor successes and failures. Results suggest a balanced outcome between arrowsmith and armorer.* 30:52 Varied *arrow hits: bouncing off, penetrating, and glancing. Aventail pierced; discussion on armor's impact.* 31:44 Testing *case-hardened arrowheads. Assessing if case hardening improves arrow penetration.* 34:53 Case-hardened *arrows show improved penetration. Discussion on medieval understanding of arrow effectiveness.* 37:10 Testing *arrows on neck and face. Aventail pierced; potential risks to delicate areas discussed.* 39:13 Arrows *penetrate helmet; one through the eye socket. Evaluation of armor effectiveness and potential vulnerabilities.* 42:01 Summary: *Wrought iron performs well. Plate armor effective at weak points. Case-hardening's impact inconclusive, calls for evidence. Acknowledgments and future supplementary films mentioned.* Made with HARPA AI

    @Hagogarcesortiz77799@Hagogarcesortiz777994 ай бұрын
  • What's remarkable is how carefully designed the armor was in that age. They knew "exactly" what they were doing. Very impressive.

    @boston7704@boston7704 Жыл бұрын
    • It's easy to think of people "back in the day" as being stupid, because lower technology carries the connotation, but it's likely that the well-fed and more intellectually inclined humans of the era were comparable to modern humans even if, on average, intelligence was lower (as implied by findings like the Flynn effect in the 20th century).

      @mrbouncelol@mrbouncelol Жыл бұрын
    • But in "that age", they would obviously be at the peak of knowledge of how to design that armour. So of course they knew what they were doing.

      @TerriblyNice_Not@TerriblyNice_Not Жыл бұрын
    • HI Boston, I agree, it worked beautifully, but of course they had good motivators

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • @@mrbouncelol A skilled hunter today can hit a squirrel at 100m with a rifle easily. A skilled hunter in the middle ages could hit a squirrel at 50m with an arrow albeit less easily. Technology has doubled the range but the skill of a human being with a projectile weapon does not change. People have always been masters of their craft and it is the craft that has evolved not the human factor. Were people in past ages stupid? No more so than we are today. They were just much less informed about how the world works on a physical level and as a result could not achieve what we can today.

      @LordOceanus@LordOceanus Жыл бұрын
    • @@LordOceanus well said I was recently engaged in a debate with others on the pyramids and all the other ancient wonders. They were certain it was a long lost ancient super advanced civilization or aliens crossed the vastness of space to come here and make stone monuments. I don't get why people find it so hard to believe ancient humans were just master stone masons even though the earth is covered in evidence of it I mean we have so many achievements how is building the pyramid unbelievable.

      @charlesanastasia7574@charlesanastasia7574 Жыл бұрын
  • There is little else more satisfying than listening to experts in their fields analyze and talk about the things they're most passionate about. This project is phenomenal, Tod. Thank you, sincerely for putting this together. This is the kind of stuff that I wish was on The History Channel. It's more informative and entertaining than any documentary I've seen on TV in years. Well done to everyone on this team. A++ work

    @ActuallyEric@ActuallyEric Жыл бұрын
  • Love your videos! It is a refreshing break from all the other drama on KZhead. I need more of these!

    @alexsearcy1717@alexsearcy1717 Жыл бұрын
  • Great points! Well covered! Thanks for the work put forth in this experiment.

    @Dean-ds1yd@Dean-ds1yd Жыл бұрын
  • I was wondering, looking at the video, if the French fear of getting hit in the eyes were not less caused by actually getting hit by direct arrows, but more because of the splinters of hundreds of arrows breaking around them. Just a thought from a total newbie. Amazing video.

    @gl32@gl32 Жыл бұрын
    • I think they more worried about their groain and legs which are basically unarmoured and just asking to get hit. A knight without functional legs is a useless knight in a melee

      @HistoricalWeapons@HistoricalWeapons Жыл бұрын
    • @@HistoricalWeapons That's not entirely true for the legs, legs also had plates which wasn't present in today's armours. Also Knights were used in cavalry charge were their legs aren't so exposed in general. Agincourt is one battle they were forced to dismount. It's not how most battle were fought for the cavalry.

      @Deadknight67@Deadknight67 Жыл бұрын
    • @@HistoricalWeapons I am thinking about saddle, wasnt it the protection for groain? and how big target are legs, where should be plates as well, because it was the first part where they apear.

      @vojtechrykr6592@vojtechrykr6592 Жыл бұрын
    • Even people today have fears that aren't founded in reality. Im not sure why we're assuming they'd be any different.

      @Crimsonfangg@Crimsonfangg Жыл бұрын
    • @@Deadknight67 They discussed that in the beginning of the video that at this period in time the french knights were not armoring up their groin or legs with plate yet.

      @TheIronMenace@TheIronMenace Жыл бұрын
  • Well done as always, you can feel that extra level of polish in this one. You all have good on screen chemistry and i would totally watch a Netflix series on this. Great work.

    @jakeawe1966@jakeawe1966 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
    • honestly I hope Netflix and similar productions don't get a hold of this I don't trust them to allow Tod and his team the freedom to explore the necessary topics without shoehorning irrelevant points whatever they may at that time. or trying to make it "will this fantasy historical armor stop an arrow" that might sound selfish of me but i don't want to see a good thing ruined plus the way i see it is that they would be lowering themselves quality-wise if they were to go under Netflix or any similar service.

      @rudolphaswad8723@rudolphaswad8723 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rudolphaswad8723, Totally agree. They'll insert insufferable music and hire third rate actors to dramatize scenes.

      @fuferito@fuferito Жыл бұрын
    • No, this has facts and research and testing. Netflix wants Ancient Aliens style archeology BS. =P

      @Kanner111@Kanner111 Жыл бұрын
  • I've read so much of the period, and, as an english fantasist imagined more. This is a beautifully made video. The passion, dedication, thought, understanding and knowledge of your group shines through. I've learned a lot and had a lot of my (admittedly amateur) research and understanding confirmed. Also love how this goes into the areas raised in your discussions and the comments after AvsA 1. Next step steeled tips - I'd be curious to know whether these arrowheads were waxed - my semi-educated guess would be a minor but well worth having bonus vs all protection for steeling and vs chain and cloth layers for waxing. Scholargladiatoria's video suggests that case hardening and steeling were standard for military arrows for much of the period despite the lack of archeological record. My limited understanding of historical metalworking would suggest that this would be a likely step.Toby's "if they coulda-they woulda" is exactly where I'm at on this. Bending forwards reduces the effectiveness of the angle of the of the upper breastplate. If those final shots are with unhardened heads, steeled and waxed turns those aventail and the visor penetrations into potentially lethal. As you guys all say the armour and weapon are both doing their jobs and evolving - quite fascinating - bravo.

    @EddietheBastard@EddietheBastard Жыл бұрын
  • Really phenomenal production you all have put together. Truly amazing work, so much so that you can feel the hard work and the love that was put into all of it. Thank you for this

    @jeremyslater7369@jeremyslater73699 ай бұрын
  • You assembled a real "A Team" for this video.

    @IHateThisHandleSystem@IHateThisHandleSystem Жыл бұрын
  • This is better than many TV documentaries, the attention to detail and enthusiasm are astounding. Please keep doing what you're doing.

    @melman@melman Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely incredible film with the absolute best in their field! Thank you for pulling this together....and I have to say, HUGE props to the sound techs on this - amazing clarity, especially with that wind!

    @chivalricmedia@chivalricmedia6 күн бұрын
  • Gutted I found this so late. Great work by everyone involved. Two things of particular interest stand out: First, that mathematically it was only taking 4-5 arrows on average in the early general tests to find a weak spot. The great strength of the longbow was its rate of fire, and here we can see that demonstrated to full effect, likely thinning the French ranks just a little bit with each volley. Second was the hit on the spaulders that knocked them loose. We can imagine over the course of a campaign lasting months that bits of armour would break off or get damaged in other ways during skirmishes and even sparring, as seen in that arrow hit. This increases the probability of men having to go into battle with pieces of armour missing or clinging on via running repairs, further enhancing their vulnerability to volume arrow fire. Super interesting. Again, great work.

    @bouncingboredom@bouncingboredom Жыл бұрын
  • I really like Augusto's armor. I am especially impressed by the helmet and visor. Before this test, I erroneously thought the vent holes were a point of weakness, but they held up to every hit on them. I only wish I had the money to buy an armor like this one from Augusto.

    @badwolf7367@badwolf7367 Жыл бұрын
    • Do you want your armor to do enough for blunted weapons HEMA brawls on 1.5 mm steel or do you want something to be shot at with steel hardened bodkin tips on point blank range by a pro archers with a 34+ pounds pro medival English longbow?

      @voster77hh@voster77hh Жыл бұрын
    • @@voster77hh Obviously the latter because it's cooler to talk about and will definitely hold up to the former. :P

      @5peciesunkn0wn@5peciesunkn0wn Жыл бұрын
    • Augustos armor looks much nicer, this testing armor is pretty rough around the edges

      @Lobster_Lars@Lobster_Lars Жыл бұрын
    • I would also love armor like this.

      @Zombxst@Zombxst11 ай бұрын
    • @@Lobster_Lars That's actually the usual finish I put on the pieces I make =). Filing and some hammer marks are part of the medieval aesthetic.

      @JosefGustovc@JosefGustovc10 ай бұрын
  • For all the History junkies like myself, and for the sake of empiric data in regards to this subject, what this channel is doing, is pure altruistic work. Thank you all so much for this.

    @valdoalmeida6866@valdoalmeida6866 Жыл бұрын
  • For this reason, units such as Swiss Pikemen, resistant to archers, did not emerge before the armor technology was well developed Chain mail armors and scale armors were weak against arrows if used alone. For this reason, chain mail armors and scale armors were used in combination with shields. However, keeping shields up for hours was tiring, and some open body parts were less protected against arrows. Armies using these armors were particularly vulnerable to arrow attacks from the flanks and rear. Also, the use of two-handed weapons made it almost impossible to hold a shield. With these weak armors, you wouldn't want to use a two-handed weapon when you're under a shower of arrows. Despite better protection, manipulating a one-handed spear was more difficult than two-handed one. For this reason, such weakly armored infantry preferred the strategy of laying down their shields and raising their longer near them shortly before the enemy cavalry engaged their charge. Another method was piles driven into the ground. However, this second method resulted in fewer maneuvering options. Moreover, dropping shields was a particularly bad solution against mounted archers. The phalanx is almost the only example where very long spears are used with a shield. Soldiers in the phalanx order used the shield by putting their forearms in a cuff. So they could use the long sarissas partially with two hands. However, they used sarissas one-handed in the first line for better protection with shields, especially when there was a threat of enemy archers. Moreover, the maneuverability of the extremely long sarissas was limited due to the shield. This issue was fixed by having 3 line soldiers point their sarissas at the enemy. Thus, the enemy that the first line missed could be speared by the other line. When this organization was disrupted due to terrain conditions or lack of discipline, especially Roman Legionnaires could easily push sarissas aside or up and enter close combat with their large shields, and armies in the phalanx order were losing the war. Since effective armor technology against arrows was not developed in the early period, many armies could not stand against armies consisting mostly of heavy and light horse archers, such as the Huns, Turks and Mongols. Lamellar armors and Laminar armors, which were more common especially in the east, were slightly more resistant to arrows. But it was still far from being a good solution. In the 1300s, after the Mongol invasion, armors containing plate pieces similar to lamellar armor began to come to the fore. This increased the protection of soldiers against enemy archers. During this period, especially mail and plate armors and brigandine armors became popular. Especially mirror armor was found in Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Central Asia. These armors had some arrow-resistant parts. But also, battleaxes, maces, war hammers and polaxes could be effective against these armors. The expensiveness of full plate armor limited its use outside of elite soldiers. Ironically, in the 1400s, when armor technology was well developed, the Ottoman army began to use firearms widely, and they gained the upper hand against the heavily armored armies in Europe. After the Ottoman Empire, the use of muskets became widespread in other armies. The use of armor parts other than the arrow-resistant plate body armor gradually decreased.

    @orkunyucel3095@orkunyucel309510 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for making this and sharing all this with us. This must have taken an amazing amount of work to create, so it feels like a real privilege to watch it.

    @Dwumper@Dwumper8 күн бұрын
  • The sheer amount of love and care that is put into this channel to make quality content is just astounding. Its weird how a guy whose content is mostly about deadly weapons can be this wholesome.

    @leckmich5245@leckmich5245 Жыл бұрын
  • Legitimately some of the highest quality content I've ever seen, here or on any platform. All of the experts are equal parts knowledgeable and passionate, and their love for what they're doing is infectious, the setup is absolutely brilliant, and the execution phenomenal. And perhaps the biggest shoutout to Joe's shooting - watching him loose those arrows is a perfect reminder of how physical a task that is.

    @ericmitchell985@ericmitchell985 Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutly great! Thank you all for giving this to us!

    @philpfau8549@philpfau8549 Жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating video, really enjoyed the chat between the armourer and fletcher. Would be cool to see a series of them competing/comparing different methods to outmatch the other!

    @northwall9243@northwall92435 ай бұрын
  • The amount of skill, research, training, and just plain hard work it took to produce this series is just absolutely mind boggling. Thank you to all of you whom did so much to make it possible!

    @Lemonjellow@Lemonjellow Жыл бұрын
  • One of the many things that impressed me was the endurance and athleticism of Joe. He maintained amazing accuracy after a lot of shooting at a very high draw weight.

    @WatofSarum@WatofSarum Жыл бұрын
    • Joe claims that he can shoot a 200lb bow for a few minutes and a 160lb all day

      @Kingdomkey123678@Kingdomkey123678 Жыл бұрын
    • Indeed, and in fact he's actually seemed to get more accurate and remember this was day 3 of the filming

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
  • This is a spectacular series, with everyone being a true master of his craft. Well done!

    @ArturNagy@ArturNagy4 ай бұрын
  • dang! this was fascinating. good work guys! I can easily imagine parts of an old, actual battle. fascinating

    @ferris_furnishings@ferris_furnishings Жыл бұрын
  • What is interesting as well, is the fact that hundreds and thousands of armored knights and men at arms would also protect each other by simply existing in a formation. Simultaneously there would be missed arrows hitting buddies in behind and so much debris, shattered arrows, shafts etc. This extraordinary video just shows how proper physical tests can bring about more hypotheses. Amazingly done, kept smiling through all 44 minutes and thank you all!

    @Digu213@Digu213 Жыл бұрын
  • This series is probably one of the best historical projects on KZhead.

    @Rokaize@Rokaize Жыл бұрын
  • Truly amazing attention to detail, glad i found this channel❤❤

    @globalchaos1984@globalchaos1984 Жыл бұрын
    • Welcome aboard!

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
  • This is an amazing approach, to test it like this. It gives you a powerful feel for how it would have been for the French knights in Agincourt -- terrifying! I wonder what the average impact rate would have been during the battle. If it was high enough, you could imagine that even the strong parts of the armour would gain new weaknesses and start to fail, especially if the English were using case-hardened arrowheads.

    @Chris-rb8ox@Chris-rb8ox Жыл бұрын
  • The mud must been a decisive factor. On flat dry ground they might move so fast, you can't aim for the gaps. But if your horse is shot under you, you land in the mud, turning weak sides to the archer. And then try to walk towards the enemy in the mud with heavy amor, makes you slow and easier to hit. That was surely the day, when the archers should lose, but didn't because of that factor, the mud. Great job guys. What an efford you put down to this experiment. Experimental history and achaeology at its finest.

    @andvil01@andvil01 Жыл бұрын
    • Couple of dozen wounded horses running about with men on the ground mud someone's got to get trampled plunging arrows face down in the mud visor full of mud get up open visor .....

      @garywheeley5108@garywheeley5108 Жыл бұрын
    • Though with that much mud (supposedly), will it affect the aiming for the archers due to the gaps being covered by mud and no longer obvious?

      @beohel@beohel Жыл бұрын
    • @@beohel maybe they had spotters like indirect fire from a machine gun beaten zone ?

      @garywheeley5108@garywheeley5108 Жыл бұрын
    • @@garywheeley5108 I don't think so... I think it would be more likely that the mud slowed the knights down so much that the archers simply put as much arrows as they could into them with the expectations of wounding/killing the knights with the 1 in 4 shots rather than taking the time to aim. Where the knights are not killed or maimed, they would have been so winded/bruised/exhausted that they would not have offered much resistance when the melee began.

      @beohel@beohel Жыл бұрын
    • I was going to say the same thing. At Agincourt the initial expectation the French had, iirc, was for a cavalry attack across open ground. They apparently spent a good deal of the night before making sure their squires exercised the warhorses, walking them up and down the line, because they were concerned that in the cold, wet conditions it would take too long to warm them up when the attack started after first light. But in the event, the majority of the French men-at-arms went in on foot. I've read accounts that state that the plowed fields in front of the French position were seen to be soaked with rain and stirred up into a thick mire where the horses had been walked. Maybe that was the deciding factor. Or maybe not enough French men-at-arms had sufficient barding for their horses to be confident of making it across the intervening ground. I once, many years ago, attempted to walk across a recently-plowed field that had been wetted down by a light rain. Probably a good thing the farmer wasn't there to see me try it, because I left a track that a blind man couldn't miss across his neat furrows. I also ended up exhausted and very nearly minus my boots, good lace-up hikers that despite being laced tight were very nearly sucked off my feet by the mud. The plowed fields at Agincourt across which the French advanced were not merely wettted down by a light rain. It had rained, off and on, all night. Possibly for a day or two before. That's going to have slowed the advance down a lot. It also created an additional hazard, that of being knocked off your feet into the mud. While the Hollywood trope of the armored knight being too clumsy to get up without help is utter nonsense, if you got knocked down in thick, ankle- or calf-deep mud while wearing the armor shown you were going to be hard-pressed to get up again. Maybe a comrade pauses and gives you a hand, maybe your squire runs forward and pulls you up...or maybe you're stuck there until the English find you. Watching this demonstration, though, I'm convinced that, had those fields been not been rain-soaked, Agincourt might well have been a very different story. With no mud to fight through the French men-at-arms would have been able to cover the beaten ground more quickly, and been in better shape to fight once they did. They *had* the armor to do it...maybe not perfect, but orders of magnitude better than what they'd been wearing at Crecy two generations earlier. Write this down, boys and girls: Weather ain't neutral.

      @christopherreed4723@christopherreed4723 Жыл бұрын
  • As a lifelong historical nerd, I am so thankful to be able to see these things researched and shared in my lifetime. It's honestly just cool! Thank you!

    @jonathanchambers4657@jonathanchambers4657 Жыл бұрын
  • Videos like these keep fueling my desire for history! Keep it up!

    @paulwetta7077@paulwetta70772 ай бұрын
  • Fantastic video thanks for all of the hard work and for posting it.

    @KiKiweaky@KiKiweaky6 ай бұрын
  • Makes me wonder how many French knights survived that initial battle pulse, withdrew and opened their visors to breathe or shout orders only to take an arrow to the pie hole. Great work Tod, Toby, Joe, and the rest!!! Amazing watch!

    @bobfrancis123@bobfrancis123 Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely amazing work by all those involved with this, really appreciate the work that went into it and the results speak for themselves. Just let us know when funding for Arrows vs Armour 3 gets going. This was already some of the best money I've ever spent.

    @NotThatGuyJD@NotThatGuyJD Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for helping us out and glad you enjoyed it - not yet but maybe one day

      @tods_workshop@tods_workshop Жыл бұрын
  • Le tireur à l'arc est excellent! Super vidéo! Merci!

    @F____T@F____T26 күн бұрын
  • Such amazing film! So much actual insight on how it all works! Thank you guys for delivering it all!

    @Element4ry@Element4ry4 ай бұрын
  • That was so amazing to see! I did my Master's thesis on the longbow, the hundred years war, and a survey of contemporary art depicting armor from the period. I had turned in my final copy to my advisor when the first Arrows vs. Armour came out and I added a small forward that called it out as a great project that started to test what was only theoretical and how it was an important piece, but only a piece of the answer. Now to see this, I feel like everything I said has been vindicated and I can't wait to see your supplementary videos. Great job to all those involved.

    @benbattiste1041@benbattiste1041 Жыл бұрын
  • Tod and Co: Making history fun! Seriously, this is legit historical research, and it's fun, and entertaining. The full trifecta. Kudos to all.

    @LarryGarfieldCrell@LarryGarfieldCrell Жыл бұрын
  • just that imense tension on his face, you can see and feel the power of that bow. Amazing work!

    @Arynightrose0901@Arynightrose0901 Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing work. The arrows splintering around the eye sockets would have been terrifying.

    @2racingUK@2racingUK Жыл бұрын
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