Fake Super Mario 64 World Record Caught After 12 Years

2024 ж. 29 Нау.
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  • I've had some time off this month but I've got some really cool vids planned for April. Hope you've all been well. Please go and listen to the amazing series Songs of Chaos: link.michaelrmiller.co.uk/KarlJobst

    @karljobst@karljobstАй бұрын
    • Karl Jobst in Ohio be like: I caught someone playing normally

      @Nightcaat@NightcaatАй бұрын
    • Can you do a video on the soe speedrun record

      @agentcairney1802@agentcairney1802Ай бұрын
    • April gon b gud

      @microwaveoven2@microwaveoven2Ай бұрын
    • Awesome, you are 1 of my favorite channels of all time

      @SonnyJim173@SonnyJim173Ай бұрын
    • Can never have enough Karl Jobst videos

      @Theomann_@Theomann_Ай бұрын
  • Mario, blink 2 frames early if you're in a spliced run.

    @soupcake3092@soupcake3092Ай бұрын
    • Blink and you'll miss it.

      @mcblaggart8565@mcblaggart8565Ай бұрын
    • Mario don't blink & tell!

      @frankmarano1118@frankmarano1118Ай бұрын
    • this is a hard quote 🔥

      @Austin_Red@Austin_RedАй бұрын
    • It's-a-Me, Mario! [blink] [blink]

      @ahbraveconscript997@ahbraveconscript997Ай бұрын
    • **blinks 2 frames early**

      @TheReal64PoligonalMario@TheReal64PoligonalMarioАй бұрын
  • I giggle every time I see "Billy Mitchell" in the list of patrons.

    @abandonwareguru@abandonwareguruАй бұрын
    • Lmao

      @UndertaleFan-cx2mc@UndertaleFan-cx2mcАй бұрын
    • sometimes I do wonder who exactly it is that's using the Billy Mitchell name for patreon

      @Connie_TinuityError@Connie_TinuityErrorАй бұрын
    • I didn't see that before i read this comment :P Cool easter egg, just in time for easter ;)

      @Soren_Pedersen@Soren_PedersenАй бұрын
    • Thanks for noticing, now it will make me giggle every time I see it as well.

      @robdielemans9189@robdielemans9189Ай бұрын
    • ah damn, I made a comment about this, then scrolled down and saw you already spotted it 😂 Oh well, not deleting, its too funny. Maybe Billy is a fan! lol

      @JD_13@JD_13Ай бұрын
  • I really love how formal Karl sounds. For me, it feels like I'm in a business meeting and my boss is talking to me about speedrunning.

    @snowduck6365@snowduck6365Ай бұрын
    • This should be a pinned comment

      @charlottecorday8494@charlottecorday8494Ай бұрын
    • ​@@charlottecorday8494send feet

      @gerryjtierney@gerryjtierneyАй бұрын
    • Dude has infinite credibility. If he makes a conclusion I trust it and someone better have the receipts if they doubt it, because he always has receipts.

      @nocturnalverse5739@nocturnalverse5739Ай бұрын
    • Then your boss ends up being the best boss because he calls you an absolute legend and you KNOW your boss Karl is an absolute legend

      @fannaffannaf@fannaffannafАй бұрын
    • His accent is pretty fun to listen to, honesly

      @user-ol4dl9ks2o@user-ol4dl9ks2oАй бұрын
  • Queenpwnsalot simp/husband or w/e: "Why is her blindfold run being looked at with the highest of scrutiny compared to everyone else?" Speedrunning community: Lets take a look at a Super Mario 64 record from 12 years ago and pay attention to the 64th frame blink.

    @LeoA05@LeoA05Ай бұрын
    • Not to mention, it was the record for only a DAY. Crazy.

      @wildweasel4633@wildweasel4633Ай бұрын
    • I know right? Some people just love the hunt.

      @nocturnalverse5739@nocturnalverse5739Ай бұрын
    • her simps really are some of the saddest fucking humans ever.

      @reverieofmusic436@reverieofmusic436Ай бұрын
    • Never doubt the power of autism

      @skeletonbuyingpealts7134@skeletonbuyingpealts71345 күн бұрын
  • you either die a speedrunning hero or live long enough to see Karl Jobst make a video about you...

    @rizmkw4157@rizmkw4157Ай бұрын
    • Or charliebrown64 Still crazy how that holy moly guy wouldn't have been caught if he didn't have such a big head

      @Manstam@ManstamАй бұрын
    • People don't cheat to get a quicker time, they cheat to get a time quicker - Karl Jobst

      @Dungeonseeker1uk@Dungeonseeker1ukАй бұрын
    • Well said 👊✌️

      @oldg2695@oldg2695Ай бұрын
    • 🤣🤣

      @someoneout-there2165@someoneout-there2165Ай бұрын
    • this saying is one of the dumbest ones ever, what if someone wanted to live and stay a hero? will you kill them?

      @somechupacabrawithinternet8866@somechupacabrawithinternet8866Ай бұрын
  • Dude held his spliced record unnoticed for 12 years. Ghost of Tsukushima

    @Karanthaneos@KaranthaneosАй бұрын
    • Tsukishima was also the name of a Bleach character who had the power to lie about the past…. IIRC that arc ended around 2012 so speedrunner Tsukishima possibly knew what he was doing lol

      @VTWS@VTWSАй бұрын
    • ​@@VTWSkind of a trash power tbh... literally anyone can lie about the past 😂

      @Bleeglesplotch@BleeglesplotchАй бұрын
    • @@Bleeglesplotch yes, but when he does it, you automatically believe it... and it changes to match. if he stabbed you, and made himself your closest friend, who you told all your secrets? he knows them. every. single. one. if he strikes the ground, and made himself have been there before, setting up a trap where you're about to step? slam. the trap triggers.

      @samakiraroyjanssen6326@samakiraroyjanssen6326Ай бұрын
    • @@samakiraroyjanssen6326 oh okay lol, that makes more sense hahaa

      @Bleeglesplotch@BleeglesplotchАй бұрын
    • @@samakiraroyjanssen6326 so reality warping, damn that seems nearly impossible to lose with. I imagine there are limits or it is on the level of All Fiction

      @rory8182@rory8182Ай бұрын
  • I love the phrase "SM64 scientist Pannenkoek". So absurd-sounding, such a perfect descriptor.

    @NeoSaturos123@NeoSaturos123Ай бұрын
  • "Looking for anomalies in the" -Splice- "audio track." I saw what you did there. I appreciated it.

    @MRKapcer13@MRKapcer13Ай бұрын
    • Omg I thought that was a production mistake and just thought "huh, Karl normally has really high standards, I wonder how he didn't notice that" and didn't think twice about it, lmao.

      @Zxv975@Zxv9755 күн бұрын
  • Maybe the real cheated speedruns were the frames we spliced along the way

    @deltalord6969@deltalord6969Ай бұрын
    • Congrats, you won the internet.

      @atemoc@atemocАй бұрын
    • ☠️☠️☠️

      @osheroth@osherothАй бұрын
    • 😂😂 Comment of the week! ☝️

      @Marzimus@MarzimusАй бұрын
    • Gold

      @TheHouseOfGod269@TheHouseOfGod269Ай бұрын
    • Yeah, as he ☝🏻said, you won Internet today! 😂

      @NullScar@NullScarАй бұрын
  • Cheater: You can't defeat me. Audacity: I know, but he can. Mario: *blinking*

    @Katliner@KatlinerАй бұрын
    • So true, Mario’s eyes of truth! Poetic, honestly

      @MarMaxGaming@MarMaxGamingАй бұрын
    • ​@@MarMaxGamingThe real Lens of Truth

      @Dishanta_Goswami@Dishanta_GoswamiАй бұрын
  • I love how pannekoek is referred to as the residential sm64 scientist lmao

    @C0Assassin@C0AssassinАй бұрын
    • Pancace is a swenglish world. you took it from us as loan world, it is pang caca in other nanguage

      @miljororforsprakpartiet290@miljororforsprakpartiet29022 күн бұрын
  • Love the word choice “ancient” for gaming context. For historians we use approximately 2000 years ago

    @HistoricalWeapons@HistoricalWeaponsАй бұрын
  • I see ‘Fake World Record’ , I click

    @FalseRadiation@FalseRadiationАй бұрын
    • Some of the best content on youtube

      @enjoisk8er811@enjoisk8er811Ай бұрын
    • Indeed

      @bartvansliedregt5482@bartvansliedregt5482Ай бұрын
    • I see "Karl Jobst uploaded" and I click

      @rinkincaid5470@rinkincaid5470Ай бұрын
    • I see a new video by Karl Jobst, I click

      @nicerhabara@nicerhabaraАй бұрын
    • I see Mario's nose, I drool in arousal

      @pass_@pass_Ай бұрын
  • I bet when making Super Mario 64 that whoever was involved with making the blinking animations thought it would just be a cool little detail that might not be noticed or appreciated. Only to have it be the key detail that exposes Speed runners decades after the games release.

    @DetectiveJones@DetectiveJonesАй бұрын
    • they actually probably just chose it was a simple way to do it.

      @karlcole5617@karlcole5617Ай бұрын
    • @@karlcole5617 in a cool and detailed way

      @themr_wilson@themr_wilsonАй бұрын
    • Am I the only one who appreciated the fact that they chose the number '64' for the amount of frames between blinks? :-)

      @JamesClark1991@JamesClark1991Ай бұрын
    • Note that there’s actually like five different types of blinking animations or something for different characters, so it seems like a bunch of people made their own separate versions, rather than one person making them all. Of course, only Mario’s are likely to be useful for checking for cheating.

      @hoodedman6579@hoodedman6579Ай бұрын
    • @@JamesClark1991 That's prob just because it's a power of 2 (I know the console was named after it as well - still not necessarily a gimmick but intended). Back when the game released optimizing games with small stuff like that was actually still done. Not like today where developers just ignore any optimization and expect endusers to have nasa computers.

      @tobiasha93@tobiasha93Ай бұрын
  • Bro literally got caught by the old "Blink twice if you're held against your will"

    @syndrac6254@syndrac6254Ай бұрын
  • Its nice to see a sponsor thats actually good. I loved the first 2 books in the series and ill read book 3 soon.

    @orion.6@orion.6Ай бұрын
    • Happy to hear this series is getting out there. Didn't expect it to pop up here.

      @Jansenbaker@JansenbakerАй бұрын
    • Thanks for reading!! Hope Defiant keeps up the pace for you :)

      @Michael_R_Miller@Michael_R_MillerАй бұрын
    • i usally scroll past that so i did not see the sponser its win wiin

      @miljororforsprakpartiet290@miljororforsprakpartiet29022 күн бұрын
  • If shigeru has been proven to not splice his runs, and he achieved tsukishima cycle shortly after the faked run, i think we should call it shigeru cycle from now on!

    @TheShinyTresasLW@TheShinyTresasLWАй бұрын
    • I agree

      @ryanclemons1@ryanclemons1Ай бұрын
    • Unfortunately Shigeru Cycle is already the name for a slower cycle

      @okr765@okr765Ай бұрын
    • @@okr765 just rename the slow one to "old shigeru" 😅

      @TheShinyTresasLW@TheShinyTresasLWАй бұрын
    • You can’t just credit someone for something they didn’t discover

      @Birtheater4545@Birtheater4545Ай бұрын
    • @@Birtheater4545 tsukishima wasn't credited for discovering it either, just for being the first to hit it in a wr run. from how I understood it, at least.

      @plebisMaximus@plebisMaximusАй бұрын
  • its nuts how people know so much about this game that they now have an essentially bulletproof way to detect splicing based off of the player character blinking. insane.

    @jnub@jnubАй бұрын
    • insane

      @dextersdead@dextersdeadАй бұрын
    • but wait I'm a bit confused...I understand that the eyes blink at the same exact time consistently, but what is used here is a number of frames right? But depending on the tool used for recording the speedrun in question, and final FPS rate of the video...wouldn't that affect the data? I mean an old video with very low quality is not the same FPS as a recorded video of today on OBS with high bitrate and 60 fps recording...How are they sure that the recording didn't miss a frame somewhere and therefore, that would be why the counting is off?

      @lajeandom@lajeandomАй бұрын
    • ​@@lajeandom My guess is that the problem doesn't subsist because Mario 64 is also a very old game, but i'm not sure

      @skotiaH2O@skotiaH2OАй бұрын
    • @@lajeandomvideo framerate is consistent, regardless of how old the software is. It would be simple multiplication to calculate the difference to the video’s framerate and the game’s. Video stuttering and freezing is more difficult, but you’re forgetting that the blink timer should be consistent the entire run. You could easily calculate the frames dropped during a video freeze by analyzing Mario’s movement or more consistent elements

      @yourmomsboyfriend3337@yourmomsboyfriend3337Ай бұрын
    • @@lajeandom iirc Drogie goes into more detail on this (linked in the description). Basically they take a 1-2 frame error into account, but it shouldn't deviate more than that even with different frame rates, especially with 60 fps being a multiple of Mario 64's 30 fps.

      @Eliholz@EliholzАй бұрын
  • I'm a Show-off, I love showing off my Ability in something... the thought of faking it and then putting my performance out to the masses to see "My Achievement" makes me physically ill.

    @thomasflanagan505@thomasflanagan505Ай бұрын
    • I feel the same way. When I was playing GoldenEye on the Wii I joined a hacked match with an XP booster that leveled me up way more than I should have been. I was halfway to the top level of 56 at the time and I deleted my online file and restarted and grinded all the way to a legit level 56 lol. I have always been the type that needs to 100% a game. I replayed all of Grand Theft Auto 3 because one of the decisions I made in the game caused me to be stuck at 99%.

      @EnglishTimewithMrChris@EnglishTimewithMrChrisАй бұрын
    • There'd be no satisfaction in it, for sure. Every time I've used cheat codes in a single player game (which is basically intended play) I just feel detached and lose all interest in the game. I guess some people just really, really need validation by any means.

      @boiledelephant@boiledelephant9 күн бұрын
  • Was literally thinking earlier today how I hadn’t seen a new Jobst video in a while and here is a new video! Great insight as usual, who would’ve thought the way they programmed Mario’s eye blinks would be so important nearly 30 years later!!

    @thegrossmeyer@thegrossmeyerАй бұрын
  • Quite litereally a "blink and you'll miss it" way to find splices.

    @Talon323@Talon323Ай бұрын
  • There's going to be a point where cheating detecting is so advanced scores from the 1800s are going to be absolutely pounded

    @SpilledShelf5@SpilledShelf5Ай бұрын
    • the more advanced we get at detecting, the older the runs we check are

      @starwing1795@starwing1795Ай бұрын
    • "Four score and seven years ago, our president, Abraham Lincoln, set this Speedrun record in Super Mario 64. Thanks to countless people sifting through old footage for thousands of hours, new technology has shown Abraham Lincoln might have faked this speedrun."

      @THEGRUMPTRUCK@THEGRUMPTRUCKАй бұрын
    • "Mrs. Elanor Bartleby of Gary Indiana THOUGHT she could get away with cheating her 1879 potluck social pinochle score, but I SEE ALL."

      @MG-gt6hp@MG-gt6hpАй бұрын
    • I wonder if it'll be harder to detect cheating in black and white.

      @manga_accurate_angel@manga_accurate_angelАй бұрын
    • I don't think so, these so-called detectives just weren't there to see the run start in second gear!

      @davidjsaul@davidjsaulАй бұрын
  • I was waiting for when you covered this discovery, it amused me how such a small animation detail can uncover so much in the case of cheaters.

    @s1a-l8r15@s1a-l8r15Ай бұрын
  • Man, even though I knew about this method I still watched the whole video and the 12 minutes flew by. That's why you're one of the very few channels that I'm subscribed to and have "rung the bell" so I see every video you post. I've literally watched every video on your channel and I consider it time well spent. Also, big congratulations on 1M subs - I don't remember how many you had when I initially subscribed (I want to say I remember it being sub 100k? I remember I first started watching when you did your first Doom Eternal video and then uploaded a Celeste video next and from there I was hookeD) but that's an insane milestone and you 100% deserve it. All the best from across the gap in NZ, Ashfold.

    @Ashfold_Eberesche@Ashfold_EberescheАй бұрын
  • At this point ways of catching cheaters in speedrunning has become an art in of itself.

    @Neckromorph@NeckromorphАй бұрын
    • The amount of effort and expertise is pretty ridiculous at every level. This splicing thing sounds like something out of a spy movie.

      @Smoove_J@Smoove_JАй бұрын
    • Forensics is a Science field after all

      @chillstoneblakeblast3172@chillstoneblakeblast3172Ай бұрын
    • Someone should speed run catching fake speed runs.

      @themonsterunderyourbed9408@themonsterunderyourbed9408Ай бұрын
    • It's almost like competitive video gaming is a waste of everyone's time.

      @tombailey1059@tombailey1059Ай бұрын
    • Dat SM64 scientist.

      @ascott7321@ascott732122 күн бұрын
  • It’s like cracking a cold case. They think they can get away but someone’s always watching.

    @densai89@densai89Ай бұрын
    • I'd love to see the folks who comb speedruns like this do something like investigate camera footage from cold cases. Who knows what they could notice? It'd be a little like the hackers who find missing people not only to help, but as a challenge.

      @0palOpal0pal@0palOpal0palАй бұрын
  • I’ve seen every video now that you’ve done in the last 3-4 years, at least within 24 hours of the upload. I love your channel

    @BlountForce@BlountForceАй бұрын
  • Glad you're back. I was just checking yesterday to see if I missed anything and saw that it had been a while.

    @jimmyrotten1652@jimmyrotten1652Ай бұрын
  • kinda funny that Drogie went out of his way to not name the cheater but then Jobst airs him out without a care in the world.

    @Rislear@RislearАй бұрын
    • as soon as I saw the Drogie video i was like "karl's gonna do a video on this and name them isn't he" and sure enough, here we are

      @MetaKnight68@MetaKnight68Ай бұрын
    • If you dont wanna get exposed for doing bad things dont do them in the first place. Plain and simple. Edit: I find fitting that if tbe record was public, the exposing should be too, regarding that It altered public records on a public competition.

      @LoWsDominios@LoWsDominiosАй бұрын
    • In Japan you get in trouble for defamation even if the allegations are true.

      @mandowarrior123@mandowarrior123Ай бұрын
    • @@mandowarrior123 Stuff like that makes me glad to be in the US, despite the other problems we still have. Losing freedoms makes it harder to keep from losing everything else.

      @jkazos@jkazosАй бұрын
    • Not name-and-shaming video game hackers/cheaters is such empty virtue signaling. It's a video game, not SA or something

      @bomric1788@bomric1788Ай бұрын
  • I read 12 years later My mind: ooh so 2005 Reality: 2011 Me: 😮😮

    @ElMaxRaikkonen@ElMaxRaikkonenАй бұрын
    • Yes, I'm 20 not 14.

      @huguesdepayens807@huguesdepayens807Ай бұрын
    • @@williampotter3369 They were saying the run happened in 2011, not that it's currently 2011.

      @caileyrookids@caileyrookidsАй бұрын
    • ahahahah h no you tub in 2leek5 :P there was not even xbox

      @miljororforsprakpartiet290@miljororforsprakpartiet29022 күн бұрын
  • i’m afraid of people who can memorize frames and compare it to gameplay even if i am doing nothing wrong

    @prodfrxsty@prodfrxstyАй бұрын
  • Videos like this are why I love this channel so much. I learn cool new esoteric things about video games and speedrunning that I never even considered before!

    @Tolly7249@Tolly7249Ай бұрын
    • escootric ????

      @miljororforsprakpartiet290@miljororforsprakpartiet29022 күн бұрын
  • Drogie: I'll protect the cheater's privacy and call him Hasu64. Karl: *TSUKISHIMA*

    @hellterminator@hellterminatorАй бұрын
    • I was wondering why the name didn't sound familiar. Totally forgot about the fake name thing

      @LilacMonarch@LilacMonarchАй бұрын
    • I mean, I think it's fair. If you're proven beyond reasonable doubt to be a cheater, I don't think the accusation has any responsibility to hide your identity whatsoever.

      @ZenoDovahkiin@ZenoDovahkiinАй бұрын
    • @@ZenoDovahkiin Oh, absolutely. And morality aside - as I commented on the original video - I think it's actually counterproductive. Making any would be harassers invest the (couple minutes of) effort into identifying the cheater makes them _more_ likely to follow through with the actual harassment. I was just tickled by the juxtaposition.

      @hellterminator@hellterminatorАй бұрын
    • It's called virtue signaling. He wants the moral high ground with no responsibility.

      @BUTTNUTT69@BUTTNUTT69Ай бұрын
    • Imagine not naming a cheater by their account name

      @CommandoBlack123@CommandoBlack123Ай бұрын
  • The weird thing is that Pannenkoek made the blinking video a long time ago, including the mechanics of blinking. Surprising that it took much longer to translate that into an anticheat tool.

    @GaussianEntity@GaussianEntityАй бұрын
    • Just like with most discoveries, it's super easy to see that there's a neat new thing that you can use, but it's incredibly hard to translate that into actual use.

      @jordananderson2728@jordananderson2728Ай бұрын
    • YuGiOh cards that become "broken" years later, in a nutshell.

      @TrianglePants@TrianglePantsАй бұрын
    • I often like to say: "life only consists of simple ideas, you just need to have them". Many times a discovery feels so obvious after the fact, but before, simply no one had the idea. Like with the TM cheating scandal. We could have figured out 10 years ago that you can watch the input of a replay, but no one thought about it until someone did ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      @Scarage21@Scarage21Ай бұрын
  • Another amazing video, as usual. Thanks for the content!

    @realhojo4@realhojo4Ай бұрын
  • I on and off follow different Speed Runners, but I can't get enough of these dramas. Not especially because of the drama, but because I admire the dedication of the speed running community to come up with all these ideas to fight cheating. The depth of the knowledge is astounding. Just crazy. So inspiring :)

    @JackHarb89@JackHarb89Ай бұрын
  • Far more sophisticated than Billy Mitchell's work

    @MrEW1985@MrEW1985Ай бұрын
    • Billy would have a fake official plaque claiming his Mario blinking is legit.

      @thisisfyne@thisisfyneАй бұрын
  • "Mario 64 Scientist" Now wait just a damn min- "Pannenkoek" P r o c e e d.

    @GregorDuckman@GregorDuckmanАй бұрын
    • Pancake?

      @napoleonfeanor@napoleonfeanorАй бұрын
    • @napoleonfeanor It's from a meme, I think it's pancake in dutch​

      @Platinscar@PlatinscarАй бұрын
    • @@PlatinscarYeah it translates to pancake in dutch

      @Liqoh@LiqohАй бұрын
    • ​@@Platinscarmeme? I thought that was just the name of someone involved in Mario speedrunning. Or am I misunderstanding you?

      @fizzybossyt8675@fizzybossyt8675Ай бұрын
    • @@fizzybossyt8675 maybe it's both

      @Platinscar@PlatinscarАй бұрын
  • Super entertaining video! Really clever technique, I wonder if there are any other hidden ways yet to be discovered.

    @damians.7859@damians.7859Ай бұрын
  • Karl, you Absolute Legend. I've started to worry, and just last night found out what you've been going through recently. I wish you the best of health and lots of time to rest up with your family! Thank you for your perseverance and work! Take good care of yourself!

    @BobbyBlackhearts666@BobbyBlackhearts666Ай бұрын
  • This is the speedrunning equivalent of genetic genealogy being used to solve 50+ year old crimes. Fascinating stuff.

    @Deeptunester@DeeptunesterАй бұрын
    • The algorithm just served me a bunch of videos about true crime and the advent of dna forensics... coincidence?

      @RandomGuy0987@RandomGuy0987Ай бұрын
  • Mario blinks every 64 frames. Damn, the devs were really having fun with the hidden references. I wonder how many more values they just set at 64 in the game.

    @bouboulroz@bouboulrozАй бұрын
    • I was thinking the same thing!

      @kennyslg8914@kennyslg8914Ай бұрын
    • They aren't all references. There are hardware limits in the console's 64-bit processor and they use this sequence for consistency in the programming.

      @shiytp@shiytpАй бұрын
    • @@shiytpyes, and do you know where they got the name for the console and the game? The processor architecture. It’s still a reference. They didn’t have to put timers on the bit architecture of the CPU when this game was written in C

      @yourmomsboyfriend3337@yourmomsboyfriend3337Ай бұрын
    • @@shiytp My brand new Ryzen 7900X is also a 64 bit processor. It's not really all that limited by anything but clock speed and the fact it was single core. I don't believe there's anything really significant about the number 64 to a 64 bit processor that makes the code more consistent. It's probably either an easter egg just for the devs or more or less random.

      @plebisMaximus@plebisMaximusАй бұрын
    • @@shiytp Yes, as we all know, the highest number is 64 and thus he can not blink any slower. /s No this is certainly not a hardware limit, lol.

      @whuzzzup@whuzzzupАй бұрын
  • I love that the audio was cut together while you were explaining splicing

    @mrboberson7424@mrboberson7424Ай бұрын
  • Hi you absolute legend..I love your vids but i didnt see any outlat speedrunning videos and i think the scene there really deserves some recognitions

    @NickMineboom@NickMineboomАй бұрын
  • Thanks for helping to spread the word on Songs of Chaos, Karl! A big thank you from me to anyone who checks the books out. I really hope you enjoy them :D

    @Michael_R_Miller@Michael_R_MillerАй бұрын
    • Great to see you are still writing. I read the Eragon books as they came out - will be checking out your new series.

      @LachlanMiller@LachlanMillerАй бұрын
    • The moment he compared it to Eragon, I took notice, and thought ‘damn, this might actually be interesting, I haven’t read an actually great fantasy series in a while’. Then the picture came up of the servant boy wearing an eye covering like the rescued dragon, and for the first time in years, I actually clicked straight off to the product being advertised, mid-video. Screw you, in thirty seconds you’ve got me genuinely interested and the concept sounds brilliant. *I’ll take your entire 70-hour stock*

      @toastle8005@toastle8005Ай бұрын
    • Eragon is really good definetly checking it out

      @theoutsiderjess4869@theoutsiderjess4869Ай бұрын
    • @@LachlanMiller Erm I am not Paolini haha - but if you liked Inheritance you'll probably like my Songs of Chaos series

      @Michael_R_Miller@Michael_R_MillerАй бұрын
    • @@toastle8005 well thank you! I hope you love the adventure so far

      @Michael_R_Miller@Michael_R_MillerАй бұрын
  • That's crazy to me. Who would think about checking the blinking of Mario of all things to find splices

    @xavierstanton8146@xavierstanton8146Ай бұрын
    • Same type of people who busted another long standing cheated record in Super Meat Boy because a little animated icon in the corner was off by a few frames lol. These people care a lot.

      @plebisMaximus@plebisMaximusАй бұрын
    • There are people who like to explore small details and stuff that regular people don't mind

      @antoniob6143@antoniob6143Ай бұрын
    • Same type of people who exploit parallel universes in order to optimize arbitrary game metrics. We're talking about a goddamn legend

      @wacpj1929@wacpj1929Ай бұрын
    • I guess this is the same as looking for any kind of idle animation on characters or ambience inside the game, except the blinking is obviously much more hidden and unnoticeable at first, but if an animation such as mario's blinking is consistent during a whole speedrun attempt then that animation should be as much bulletproof evidence as mario's blinking here, we just gotta find these animation cycles in games

      @frijolitoazul4343@frijolitoazul4343Ай бұрын
    • To be fair, Mario is always on screen so if there was anywhere to check it's on him

      @popdg2412@popdg2412Ай бұрын
  • I love how you break down the cheat and the discovery methods from a technical perspective. Keep doing what you do ♥

    @jonschaub7574@jonschaub7574Ай бұрын
  • the level of commitment, expertise, investigation and detail of your videos (and the entire community) never ceases to amaze me. i always had great admiration and fascination for speedrunners and never realized how deep some of these rabbitholes go. even for legitimate runs, so let alone the cheating part of things. thanks for the outstanding content. you have an extremely well balanced format (in all of your videos) that goes into the lore, detail and history to the point it's understandable for anyone with hardly any prior knowledge like myself.

    @Arathrum@Arathrum14 күн бұрын
  • What pisses me off the most in cases like this is that the guy clearly had the skill to speedrun at a high level but either got impatient or greedy. I'm sure if there was a solid system in place to easily detect fake runs speedrunning would have another big surge in popularity but sadly we live in a world where Karl Jobst delivers great vids exposing a small amount of the caught cheaters, at least we get that positive out of it.

    @P_l_B@P_l_BАй бұрын
    • I think this has been mentioned in other Karl Jobst videos but there is a tendency for highly skilled players to feel justified in cheating because they think they have the skills necessary to achieve a record anyway. Often they will say something like "I was only speeding up the time it would take to grind to get the right RNG for WR". They think it's not cheating because they are just tipping the scale of luck rather than skill. Even in a run like SM64 where RNG is less important, you can argue that whether you get BLJ on your first try is just a matter of luck once you know how to do it.

      @aspuzling@aspuzlingАй бұрын
    • @@aspuzling I think the exact quote he's used a few times is they "Don't cheat to get a faster time, they cheat to get a time faster", which sums it up real nice.

      @plebisMaximus@plebisMaximusАй бұрын
    • @@aspuzling If I remember correctly it was in the Dream video. Definitely in a minecraft one though. They "deserve" a world record so instead of grinding the hours they reduce the grind required to get that one good RNG run. Absolutely ridiculous dogshit take but apparently it helps them sleep at night.

      @tobiasha93@tobiasha93Ай бұрын
    • They're basically gaslighting themselves into believing they worked hard enough to be the best when in reality they simply didn't and they took a record away from people who did put in the work. That's the worst part.

      @cheetah219@cheetah219Ай бұрын
    • @@plebisMaximus I'd actually be cool with a "best splits" or a "low/no RNG" category. It'd kind of be like a set-seed thing imo. Sure, it may be more of a practice-category and probably wouldn't be as popular, but is someone setting a speed record for a split while practicing not still impressive?

      @Dr_Andracca@Dr_AndraccaАй бұрын
  • Dude! That Donkey Kong Country 2 music in the background was an EXCEPTIONAL choice. Talk about memories…. Thank you so much

    @absolutelysobeast@absolutelysobeastАй бұрын
  • excellent video! Its interesting to see how far speedrunning anti-cheat detection has come over the years!

    @michelvanderlinden8363@michelvanderlinden8363Ай бұрын
  • Cheaters don't deserve anything named after them. Remove Tsukishima cycle, and replace it with Blink-and-you-will-miss-it cycle. :)

    @abloogywoogywoo@abloogywoogywooАй бұрын
    • Like in Link's Awakening when you steal and then his name gets changed to THIEF, we should call it CHEATER cycle

      @LilacMonarch@LilacMonarchАй бұрын
    • I'm stealing this for my next run. Love this title lol.

      @ProperDev@ProperDevАй бұрын
    • @@LilacMonarch The splice cycle works too.

      @Dr_Andracca@Dr_AndraccaАй бұрын
    • Shorten it to the BAYWMI("bay-me" or "baw-me") cycle maybe? Also what's fucking stupid is we could just make a new category that allows for splicing together your best splits. Sure, it may not be as popular as standard runs, but I'm sure people would still be interested in being able to upload their best splits. That way failed attempts/old runs aren't just fully trashed.

      @Dr_Andracca@Dr_AndraccaАй бұрын
    • karl is cheater too ^_^ i deserve a Pocal

      @miljororforsprakpartiet290@miljororforsprakpartiet29022 күн бұрын
  • Tsukishima Cycle? More like Splicer Shuffle

    @ScrubMyTub@ScrubMyTubАй бұрын
    • Or Cheater Cycle.

      @hariman7727@hariman7727Ай бұрын
    • Just make it shigeru cycle. Call the other one old shigeru, now the guy who hit it in a run for the first time has the name.

      @aidanhogan-thomas1797@aidanhogan-thomas1797Ай бұрын
    • @@aidanhogan-thomas1797 that works too.

      @hariman7727@hariman7727Ай бұрын
    • Tsukishima shaker

      @huguesdepayens807@huguesdepayens807Ай бұрын
  • At 10:20 with the healthbar moving you can also see the timer lingering on 36.7 just a bit longer than the other numbers. its a fraction but noticeable.

    @battle00333@battle00333Ай бұрын
  • Looking at spectrograms of the audio is genius! We use similar tech to detect seizures from changes in brain wave frequencies.

    @jaredbeckwith@jaredbeckwithАй бұрын
  • “Remember, no speed runner wants to be exposed by Karl Jobst”

    @illogicalJason@illogicalJasonАй бұрын
    • I am not gay, but Karl looks like he works out. If anyone can expose themselves to me. It's better to Karl than out of shape old guy.

      @Skoopyghost@SkoopyghostАй бұрын
    • @@Skoopyghost what the hell is this comment?! LMFAO

      @urlocallazerbird8531@urlocallazerbird8531Ай бұрын
    • @@urlocallazerbird8531 Look I mean I am gay, Karl DOES look pretty nice. Still uhh... a weird comment?

      @asaasa7900@asaasa7900Ай бұрын
  • You want the truth? Just look into Mario’s eyes.

    @jonro1091@jonro1091Ай бұрын
    • TETTE MIIII! MARIÅÅÅÅÅ! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

      @miljororforsprakpartiet290@miljororforsprakpartiet29022 күн бұрын
    • YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!

      @StickFiguresMaster@StickFiguresMaster21 күн бұрын
  • Massive shoutout, to actually having a sponsorship, that potentially could get some people to read a book (if they dont listen to the audiobook)

    @jeverydk@jeverydkАй бұрын
    • Read or listen, I don't care so long as you're enjoying the story!

      @Michael_R_Miller@Michael_R_MillerАй бұрын
  • Love the video as always ❤❤ please Karl i beg u stop putting thé light on cheaters ! M'y favorites videos of you are Always the Legends that legitimately go above and beyond.. especially the Dooms WR ❤❤❤

    @robin13090@robin13090Ай бұрын
  • Grats on 1 mill subs Karl!

    @whoons4701@whoons4701Ай бұрын
  • "I did not cheat, its bOolshit! Im not a cheater, i did NAHT." "Oh hey karl jobst." *edit* I really can't believe so many of you guys know about The Room. In fact I don't BELIEVE this many people know about The Room

    @jeremiah5511@jeremiah5511Ай бұрын
    • 😂

      @Anon-lu6ct@Anon-lu6ctАй бұрын
    • I understood that reference!

      @Mzero00x@Mzero00xАй бұрын
    • "I lost the run to RN- Karl Jobsts".

      @infjmale91@infjmale91Ай бұрын
    • (Throws water bottle)

      @john_blues@john_bluesАй бұрын
    • Beautiful 😂😂😂😂😂😂

      @Gigawood@GigawoodАй бұрын
  • I appreciate the splices when explaining how to detect splicing

    @jacksonzander6024@jacksonzander6024Ай бұрын
  • Keep it up. I heard about this a couple weeks ago. Thanks for the signal boost on some stuff

    @OakCityGamers@OakCityGamersАй бұрын
  • Drogie: “I’m not going to give their name bc they’ve already been punished” Karl: “Yeah so here’s a picture of his house” 😂

    @mtb1392@mtb1392Ай бұрын
    • F@ck I know, I watched Drogie and I was ok with not knowing who it was, it was very wholesome of Drogie to do that, now is awkward

      @dafeac@dafeacАй бұрын
    • @@dafeac It was very dumb because he didn't even hide the name properly. I could see it on his own video at approximately 4:47 iirc.

      @TheMiracleMatter@TheMiracleMatterАй бұрын
    • It was stupid to go out of your way to protect a nickname of a speedrunner

      @sailor5853@sailor5853Ай бұрын
  • This makes me feel a bit sad, because even though cheat finding methods have been advancing, this shows that even old scores can stick around for this long, and cheating methods themselves also advance. It's important to keep increasing standards for speedrunning and challenge running that makes cheating more unlikely. Finding that stuff from blinking is very genius, really shows how deeply runners understand the games they play. Thanks for the video!

    @Rickfernello@RickfernelloАй бұрын
    • It's also sad on another level. You'd think before speedrunning got as popular as it is today the people actually had some sort of honor code about it. But apparently not. Cheater galore since day one.

      @tobiasha93@tobiasha93Ай бұрын
    • It's not really that genius. The way these people analyze the game it's actually shocking it took until now for someone to realize the consistent blinking could be used to detect spliced runs.

      @vtubersubs3803@vtubersubs3803Ай бұрын
  • Hey Karl! Want to give you a super personal thank you for the recommendation on Songs of Chaos. I've been super invested and about to start Book 2. Thank you so much for this awesome recommendation!

    @Namoiram@Namoiram16 күн бұрын
  • 1:39 “Historically, the most common way to detect splicing is by looking for anomalies in the” *audio splice* “audio track.” Very smooth, Karl

    @hlcyn7@hlcyn7Ай бұрын
  • YAY!! Just noticed the 1 million. You deserve every single one of them with your hard work. Gratz man!

    @ki11m3please325@ki11m3please325Ай бұрын
  • Just like Link is called Thief once you steal something in the shop, we should call the cycle the "Cheater Cycle" now.

    @bellermVA@bellermVAАй бұрын
  • This is awesome!! I love the thinking outside the box!

    @JW-qd3ol@JW-qd3ol29 күн бұрын
  • Was not expecting a pannenkoek name drop here but hell yeah I’m glad people are discovering him.

    @junglekun22@junglekun22Ай бұрын
  • pannenkoek being called a super mario 64 scientist is so funny

    @sachagd8796@sachagd8796Ай бұрын
    • He literally is, though. He makes a theoretical framework for what is possible in SM64, and then be backs up his hypotheses with experimental evidence.

      @RadkeMaiden@RadkeMaidenАй бұрын
    • because it's true

      @thisisfyne@thisisfyneАй бұрын
    • I mean is it wrong?

      @LonelySpaceDetective@LonelySpaceDetectiveАй бұрын
    • @@RadkeMaiden yeah i know that, but like calling somebody who play/create TAS for a video game a scientist will always be funny to me. I think you see what i mean, like the common perception of scientist is quite different from people like pannenkoek even though i agree that based on the definition, we could call pannekoek a scientist.

      @sachagd8796@sachagd8796Ай бұрын
    • Tchae maybee the sort of hening employer :P he misses a detail so he is catch

      @miljororforsprakpartiet290@miljororforsprakpartiet29022 күн бұрын
  • This is shocking with someone who was supposed to be a foundation for SM64 speed running

    @Anon-lu6ct@Anon-lu6ctАй бұрын
  • 5:40: Audio irregularity in your audio irregularity. Recursion.

    @TransRightsMatter@TransRightsMatterАй бұрын
  • Wow. It's amazing what simple details go overlooked for so long, only to become important later.

    @TaranAlvein@TaranAlveinАй бұрын
  • I love watching these videos, they are so informative, I love speedruns but I don’t speedrun myself because I lack the skill and patience, but even after watching hundreds of these across the years I still cant really tell if a run is fake or not, it amazes me to see how the community is so dedicated and talented to notice even the smaller details, thanks a bunch Karl you always tech me new stuff.

    @SunnyTacos@SunnyTacosАй бұрын
  • Always look forward to a video from Karl!

    @PopADoseYo@PopADoseYoАй бұрын
  • Book sponsors! Finally! First time seeing this, great sponsor!

    @the_ecips9692@the_ecips9692Ай бұрын
    • Oh nice, thank you very much :D

      @Michael_R_Miller@Michael_R_MillerАй бұрын
  • Glad I could watch Drogie's video first and then watch this one and get some new things out of it. That's why I like this channel: There's always a proper amount of Karl's own research and explanation put into the videos.

    @SamWeltzin@SamWeltzinАй бұрын
  • It's always fascinating to see how the smallest detail snowballs into the complete deconstruction of a record. Also hope you're doing well after the surgery Karl!

    @CriticalNobody@CriticalNobodyАй бұрын
  • Here to feel like an absolute legend

    @doodle1565@doodle1565Ай бұрын
    • I’m feeling it now 🧽

      @Anon-lu6ct@Anon-lu6ctАй бұрын
  • I’ve been scratching at my arms and pulling my hair waiting for Karl to throw more videos out. These are like Crack, please post more 😭

    @OCDistic@OCDisticАй бұрын
  • love mario 64 vids because they always have the potential to bring me back to the ancient times of sitting in Ventrilo with runners of the middle 2000's... :D

    @kshank07@kshank07Ай бұрын
    • In fact I probably spent a lot of time unknowingly listening in on the mods deciding if speedrun audio was spliced or not...hi marsh and cyber

      @kshank07@kshank07Ай бұрын
  • Congratulations to 1 mil subscribers. Always enjoy your videos.

    @BarelyRunning@BarelyRunningАй бұрын
  • Can't wait to see more! Another great video!

    @GarfieldsToes@GarfieldsToesАй бұрын
  • I really like that you were sponsored by a specific like book series. That's so cool

    @slowestbro1353@slowestbro13537 күн бұрын
  • Okay, I didn't care at all about the audible book suggestion until you mentioned Peter Kenny. That dude is AMAZING in the Witcher audiobooks. You immediately got my attention after that.

    @Tenchigumi@TenchigumiАй бұрын
    • Peter is terrific! Big thanks in advance if you do check my books out :D

      @Michael_R_Miller@Michael_R_MillerАй бұрын
  • Grats on the 1M subs, stoked for you man.

    @xdx1990@xdx1990Ай бұрын
  • 12 years without getting exposed is crazy.

    @cubinator3826@cubinator3826Ай бұрын
    • At least Truth and Justice *eventually* caught up to him.

      @TheMiracleMatter@TheMiracleMatterАй бұрын
    • not really it is getting diffisylt because all run is now the same . and all may be splicing so they cant shame one without getting banned themself

      @miljororforsprakpartiet290@miljororforsprakpartiet29022 күн бұрын
    • @@TheMiracleMatter yeah

      @cubinator3826@cubinator382621 күн бұрын
  • Enjoyed that ad, was refreshing to see this kind of product paying for adspace

    @MosBaked@MosBakedАй бұрын
    • Thank you! If you do check the books out I hope you enjoy!

      @Michael_R_Miller@Michael_R_MillerАй бұрын
    • @Michael_R_Miller I grabbed Ascendant on Audible, looks great 👌

      @MosBaked@MosBakedАй бұрын
  • I never thought I'd find a good book from a random ad sponsorship o.o

    @BirdSpotter43@BirdSpotter43Ай бұрын
  • whilst it makes sense it was just forgotten due to how short it lasted and such, i do find it interesting this record wasn't mentioned at all in summoning salt's 16 star video, where he specifically said he wouldn't mention cheated runs, yet it of course wasn't known as cheated at the time

    @bunnygirl8@bunnygirl8Ай бұрын
  • in the current online landscape of streaming and pro gaming being a highly popular and financially lucrative thing, cheating in a game is like robbing a bank with no possibility of jail time. bad people can just cash out big time by being fake (and they are) and theres probably a LOT of people on twitch and youtube cheating right now. some of the biggest creators have been caught cheating, and even in huge tournaments theres people caught cheating.

    @luke2806@luke2806Ай бұрын
  • I saw this Thumbnail, and Karl, and I clicked thinking to myself " oooohh, he got another one." Love it.

    @AnotherSeeker@AnotherSeekerАй бұрын
  • You can even see the time when Tsukushima paused to create a save state briefly freeze

    @BullsMahunny@BullsMahunnyАй бұрын
  • I'm sorry to say Karl, but there is another explanation for Mario's inconsistent blinking. His game cartridge was dirty, and we all know dirty cartridges can cause all sorts of weird scenarios. It explains every single time a "cheated" moment pops up. Ps. This is 100% sarcasm

    @PureNrGG@PureNrGGАй бұрын
    • I'm a physician, mario must have been nervous.

      @mandowarrior123@mandowarrior123Ай бұрын
    • @@mandowarrior123 it's a shame we live in a world where if someone blinks wrong, they get cyberbullied 😭

      @PureNrGG@PureNrGGАй бұрын
    • Mario had dry eye. Many such sad cases. 😔

      @cursedcancersurvivor@cursedcancersurvivorАй бұрын
    • no it was a rogue cosmic ray

      @Hublium@HubliumАй бұрын
    • @@cursedcancersurvivor it's horrible

      @benfrese3573@benfrese3573Ай бұрын
  • Yo, welcome back, Karl. I was starting to miss your videos.

    @Caydiem@CaydiemАй бұрын
  • "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!"

    @FurryNonsense@FurryNonsenseАй бұрын
  • It is kind of funny how watching these videos on new ways to catch cheaters reminds me of Snape's lecture on his first day as a defense against the dark arts teacher.The one about the dark arts being like a many headed monster where more appear after you chop one off and how our defenses have to be be as flexible and inventive as the dark arts we are fighting against.

    @mavortius8768@mavortius8768Ай бұрын
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